All memes aside, there's no reason why ordinary civilians should be allowed to own assault rifles.
>>77994905
This. I vote for gun control every time, but heavily outnumbered by the rednecks. Luckily all historical data shows that society gets more progressive over time; I have no doubt gun control will be significant in a few generations.
>>77994905
coward, it's just a tool, you decide how to use it
>All memes aside
>there's no reason why ordinary civilians should be allowed to own assault rifles.
Try again.
To resist tyranny.
>>77995050
The word progressive is meaningless and changes overtime. Gun control has actually gotten weaker in the US.
>>77994905
You're at a higher risk of falling down the stairs than being killed by an assault rifle. A country with a gun loving culture is a country no one wants to conquer. You're lucky you're a leaf, but other countries aren't so lucky.
>allowed
>>77994905
Look up the letters of marque is
The colonists were perfectly fine with civilians owning cannons and warships
>>77994905
Fuck off, leaf faggot.
>>77994905
How do you define the term "assault riffle"? Let's start there.
>>77994905
I'll take incidents of democide in the 20th century for 800, Alex
>>77994905
SHALL
>>77994905
If they have a right to protect themselves from one person, they have a right to protect themselves from a gang of people.
If an assault rifle should be illegal, there is no reason the military should use it, until weapons are banned for military use, they shouldn't be banned from civilian use per the 2nd amendment.
>>77994905
What's an assault rifle?
>>77995196
Wrong.
Little known fun fact: The communist party in Weimar Germany had an anti-fascist militia, well armed and over 100,000 men strong, made up in large parts of combat experienced WWI front fighters. Didn't stop the tyranny. For scale, Weimar Germany had a population of about 63,000,000. Compared with today's 300,000,000 Americans you'd need more than 500,000 members to reach a similar size.
More guns is always better, Nothing like having a criminal second guess whether it's worth it to break into my house or not vs. living in a country where guns aren't allowed to be owned by law abiding citizens. Criminals take note of that and target those cities and areas because the civilians are sitting ducks waiting to be plundered.
Let's say there isn't. Let's ignore all historical and political context and assume that you are right, that there is no "good" (which is an opinion) reason to own an assault rifle.
You are the one trying to ban something. You are the one trying to get the government involved in outlawing a profitable industry and popular hobby. The burden of finding a reason to do that is on you. And, according to any statistics or data, you have nothing.
That's why this is the most common argument the left makes. Guns are bad because they are scary/they were on the news/bad guys use them. But when you say that out loud it sounds stupid because it is. So they immediately deflect the question back, and find themselves justified.
>>77994905
All memes aside, there's no reason why ordinary civilians shouldn't be allowed to own assault rifles.
Prove me wrong.
Protip, you can't.
>>77995367
>>77995427
Funny how gun nuts can't debate substance, so they bicker semantics.
>>77995412
If you want to use an assault rifle, go join the military.
>>77994905
Also most people don't own assault rifles retard. Most people own regular semi automatic rifles and hand guns.
Please get educated
>>77995470
yeah, 100,000 of 63,000,000 is sure a big army
>>77995470
considering there's about 80 million gun owners in the US, I'd say we got the numbers,
>>77994905
The founding fathers intended us to have access to the same arms that the government is capable of using. Plain and simple.
>>77994905
You say assault rifle I say defense rifle. Stay cucked leaf.
>>77995574
Waco
North hollywood
Sandy Hook
Aurora
San Bernardino
Orlando
Etc..etc...
>>77995143
based James
Omar did not use an assault rifle for the shooting.
It was a semi-automatic rifle with scurry black paint.
Can we let this meme die?
>>77994905
I understand that a lot of gun nuts ate afraid of Hillary or Obama being a gun grabber with all the rhetoric out there. What I don't get is how have we gotten to the point where these people think semi auto rifles are going to protect you from the the government if they "come for your guns". If SWAT is at your door and you aren't already innawoods you're gonna get killed.
There's no reason why ordinary civilians should be allowed to be Muslims either.
>>77995050
I vote for gun freedom every time. Luckily we still outnumber the liberal pussies. Good thing that society gets more progressive over time, meaning that gun laws generally become more lax. I believe there will be no appreciable restraint to gun ownership in a few generations.
Thank God, wiser minds are prevailing.
>>77994905
Because the civilian population is suppose to have weapons on par with the government but you are a foreigner who has no say in our politics.
>>77995656
You gun nuts get so pissed when people bring up assault rifles, it's hilarious. You have no real arguments, so you go for terminology.
>Canadian
lolololololol
See, this picture isn't what pro gun people are trying to say. Overthrowing a government or getting guns to defend against a horde of SWAT units isnt what people are even worried about.
We get guns to defend ourselves from Jamal, Tyrone, Jose, Pablo, and Shawn the crust punk.
>>77995746
None of those used assault rifles
Except for government agents
>>77995596
You'll be sorry one day when the tusken raiders are banging down your door and all you have is your kitchen butter knife to defend yourself.
>>77995900
>>77994905
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>>77995916
>we're not paranoid tin foilers, we're only cowardly racists!
How does this help your side exactly?
First off there is no need for a fucking LEAF to have an opinion on american rights, second off praise kek
>>77995596
I'm not a gun nut, I actually support some further restrictions, but if OP wants to discuss whether or not assault riffles should be banned, then we should sure as shit know what the term "assault riffle" means. There is no standard definition used in politics and it means whatever the person discussing it wants outlawed.
>>77995470
>A communist party had a militia to keep them in power
>the people chose another party and their militia failed
this makes me want guns more
>>77995871
The real question is, why are you so afraid of a legal gun owner? Statistics show that we are by far the smallest percentile that actually perform crimes let alone perform one with a firearm.
>>77995968
>muh semantics
Not an argument.
>>77994905
Tradition is far more important than superficial safety. lack of community is the route cause of "mass shootings". They will happen no matter the law because the perpetrator will always have a way to acquire the right tools. Quite literally chipping a piece of your nation's hegemony for a quick fix will only lead to more problem, or worse, a new nation.
Wanna stop mass shootings? Go to church, Stop using drugs, stop whining about being "depressed" and make an effort to improve yourself, and finally- more guns is the only practical way to decrease "mass shootings", because everyone who wants gun control doesn't seem to care about the individual every day counts, they'd be "racist" if that were the case.
>>77995746
Waco as far as I can tell is an excellent example of federal abuse of power, and the following arguments used keep pointing me in one direction; if citizens had been educated and armed then these crimes would have been prevented.
You argue that one man with a legal firearm can do more damage than many men could prevent with legal firearms; the fallacy being that we already live in a society that disdains firearms so much so that these criminals have been able to commit such crimes without a single shred of resistance.
Remember that police show up with the ambulance, after the shooting has taken place.
>>77995596
I don't need to because I live in an empowered egalitarian country where the government doesn't disenfranchise its people in favor of its soldiers.
>>77996033
Niggers are a problem. Stating that is nor racist, you shitlord. Check your liberal privilege.
>>77994905
>mental illness is the problem
But mental illness is already a bar that prevents you from buying firearms...
>>77996128
>let's ban assault guns
>because definition, the weapons that use school shooters are still allowed
not much help
>>77994905
>allowed
Like your news outlets are "allowed" to report the news?
>The Canadian government regulates media ownership and the state of media through the Canadian Radio and Telecommunications Commission. In section 3 of the Canadian Broadcasting Act, it states media organizations should reflect "equal rights, the linguistic duality and multicultural and multiracial nature society and the special place of aboriginal peoples within that society".[6]
Fuck off.
>>77994905
Look at Mexico, the police don't protect citizens from the Cartels, and they confiscate their weapons. If you own a gun you can be self-reliant, otherwise you're reliant on state protection.
Why is this still being shilled. The votes are over and the pussies lost.
>>77996055
Dubs
HE HAS SPOKEN. THIS IS NOW A KEK THREAD
>>77994905
Fuck you're a retard. Why stop them from owning anything? That's how the law works, it's legal until there is a law prohibiting it, so you have to come up with an argument as to why it should be illegal.
>>77995746
Add them all up and the instance of deaths in those types of shootings is negligible in comparison to overall gun ownership.
You don't curtail the freedom of millions and millions of law-abiding citizens on account of a few unstable individuals.
Like I said, you can't.
>>77996281
I want of this fucking ride.
>>77996131
Any source for this lack of comminuty claim? What about before 1950s America when people didn't go to church (weren't christian at least) and did drugs more frequently than even today? You're so full of shit.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-26402367?SThisFB%3FSThisFB
This is what a massacre looks like when firearms are not involved. Also if you do some digging you will find that there was more than 1 shooter in the Orlando shooting. The news never reported it and it was covered up.
>>77994905
all memes aside, youre wrong.
I AM SILLY
>>77994905
Define assault rifle, fucking leaf.
>>77994905
>>77995320
Underrated btw.
>>77994905
>2012
How topical.
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>>77994905
All memes aside, there's no reason why the government should only be allowed to own assault rifles.
I hate you Canada. I hate you so fucking much.
>>77996143
Waco is an example of what happens to child raping right wingers when they think they can rebel against the government with their AR-15s.
>>77996085
>le germans chose nazis meme
The nazis were nothing but a bunch of street thugs who seized power. The highest amount of popular vote they ever got was 42%.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-youre-picturing-nazis-wrong/
REGULATED
MILITIA,
>>77996654
MEME
>>77996598
Thought out reading of the 2A will indicate that the right to keep and bear arms belongs to the people, as they constitute the militia, and in order for the militia to be in functioning order, they require that the people can keep and bear arms on par with what the military uses.
BEING
>>77994905
what the fuck is an "assault" rifle?
NECESSARY
>>77994905
Civilian ownership of automatic weapons has been illegal since 1934.
>>77994905
So only extraordinary ones? Like the 1%? ....
TO
>>77996352
Assault rifles were made with one purpose, to kill people on the battlefield. They should not be in civilian hands.
THE
>>77996650
Are you trying to tell me 42% of the popular vote is not significant?
>>77996725
no its not. you just need a cuck stamp
>>77995596
>you literally want to ban something, but cannot define what it is
>"that's just semantics"
maximum kek
>>77996622
Hey man, we aren't all as delusional as OP
SECURITY
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>>77995196
Im pro gun but this is stupid and you know it
the moment you try to "resist tyranny" they'll put 50 bullets in your skull
>>77996783
How you going to get the criminals to hand in their "assault rifles"
protip
>you aren't
>>77996783
>They should not be in civilian hands.
That's a great opinion you have there, faggot. I should really like and subscribe to your blog.
>>77996725
You don't need full auto for a rifle to be classified as an assault rifle. The M16 had it's full auto capability removed after the first models, and yet it's still considered an assault rifle.
>>77996883
whats is asymmetric warfare?
A
We're all stuck on this tiny blue orb careening through space on the verge of losing all hope to expand into the galaxy and you're focused on pathetic bullshit like this? Okay say we ban assault weapons after successfully defining them and successfully convincing congress they'll be reelected if they ban them. For the most part people voluntarily give up their guns but then the 1% that don't all keep their assault weapons. 1% of 300mil is still 3 million people all willing to die over their access to these weapons. Do you want the blood of at least the people willing to die for their rights to weapons, not including the officers coming for the guns that die, or do you want the blood of 50 every few years? The funniest part to me is that either way it doesn't fucking matter, we're hate-filled self-centered bags of shit and that's the absolute majority. We're going nowhere fast as a species but yeah let's focus on 50 dead, not even the millions from starvation or cancer or car accidents
>>77996650
I am by no means defending sick criminals but I implore you to remember who writes history, and what is destined to repeat itself.
Arm all citizens and I can assure you less harm will come to them. Educate all civilians and I promise you will have a stronger nation.
Disarming and threatening your people will lead directly to the fall of your nation.
This is not a threat, this is an observation of history.
FREE
>>77996783
full-auto fire is used for suppression, it would be really hard to kill a lot of people with an assault rifle used in such a way
the only way it's easy is if in close quarters with a bunch of unarmed victims, such as a gun-free zone :^)
>>77996912
Define arms. Is it legal to open carry grenades?
>>77996622
We hate ourselves too.
That's why we want to be bred out of existence, and let the government take all of our guns. We also want to destroy what little national heritage we have by rewriting it.
There's no where in the western world to run either.
The leaf is dead.
>>77996622
don't let that fucker ruin it for us. I personally love guns.
STATE
TO
>>77996783
They aren't though, no full auto capabilities. Not to mention there were a few marketed towards civilians like the Federov in the 1920s and 1930s before the American NFA went into place.
>>77994905
why is it a mental illness to think the government might turn on you in the future, and you will have to fight back?
>>77996783
Maybe in your country but in real democracies, the civilians have a right to protect themselves with the same weaponry that the soldiers can attack them with.
yeah. it's not a mental illness problem. We're just to scared to be called racist for what the real problem is...
>>77995871
>you have no real arguments
>you gun nuts are so mad
>you gun nuts are so dumb
>you gun nuts are so barbaric
Quite literally kill yourself
t. someone who has never fired a gun
>>77996783
Go digging around on normal legal retailers for how many fully automatic, high capacity and high caliber guns you can buy then come back with a list.
Then you may have a single shred of credibility.
>>77996939
No it didn't they switched back and forth between various models with full auto or 3 round burst, both legally are considered to be fully automatic since they fire more than 1 round per pull of the trigger. In the mean time, the AR15 only fires one round per pull of the trigger, and would take significant machining capabilities to alter to full auto to the point where the person could just manufacture new full auto guns from scratch.
>>77994905
there needs to be a bunch of white people with guns somewhere or another, or the rest of the planet will tear each other to shreds forever. the only thing that stops all the brown people from killing each other sometimes is the awareness that somewhere out there, there is a white person who is sick of all the commotion.
so help me god if you all don't stop fighting i will kill every last one of you :3
>>77996650
The people at Waco were killed by an incendiary placed inside by the people breaching into the compound. Hell. even they even started shooting each other accidentally when one woman's shotgun went off. We were shooting at our own guys. The people inside never fired at us.
>>77995596
>so they bicker semantics.
No, it's just to prove you are trying to talk about something you know jack shit about.
>>77994905
>that image
I
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>>77995746
North Hollywood doesn't really fit into that box, that was more of why police needed AR-15s and SWAT needed armored trucks.
>>77996992
Yes, and any organization who says otherwise is infringing upon my Constitution rights.
I can own a functional tank for fuck's sake.
https://youtu.be/vvkLaa9bogU?t=267
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>>77997204
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>>77996783
>Assault rifles were made with one purpose, to kill people on the battlefield
That's why we want them. If the US ever turns into one, I want to be able to kill my enemies.
>>77996387
How many mass shooters are well known and popular? They are always "lone" for a reason. It's always for nihilism or political ideology, another babby's first nihilism gone too far. Obviously this is all conjecture, but chipping away at 2a is like putting a piece of toilet paper on a gashed, infected wound.
lack of morality, lack of community. No one goes to church anymore.
american freedom is a crowning achievement. If you disagree, you honestly a spoiled brat, this is the last free place on earth, go kiss ass in venezula to a fat pimp for 0.12 cents an hour.
also what about the 1950's? people were murdered a lot easier, blacks and whites were segregated, and the population was half (150,000,000) then (310,000,000) now.
I'm sure there were plenty of murders.
>>77994905
>board full of mental illness discuss about mental illness
>>77996786
No, he's telling you they didn't have the popular mandate everyone assumes.
>>77994905
Yeah there is, it's called history.
>>77995871
>You have no real arguments
That might be related to you not having any as well.
Provide proper arguments and maybe you'll get some back.
>>77994905
> there's no reason why ordinary civilians should be allowed to own assault rifles.
other than the 2nd Amendment
PEOPLE
>>77997182
In what states is is legal to open carry grenades? Can you link me to the law on the books?
What about nuclear weapons? Why can't we own those? You think a few AR-15's are going to stop the US military? You can't even hit a drone with those.
TO
>>77994905
Fucking leaf.
KEEP
AND
BEAR
What is the gun violence rate of NRA members vs non NRA members? How about Hilary supporters vs Trump supporters?
>>77994905
>should be allowed
By who?
Once you start going down that slope.....
ARMS
>>77997414
There's no reason the constitution hasn't been re-written yet. That was the intent of the founding fathers as well.
Speaking of which, why do those guys matter? Why is their word holy? They were just terrorists too, george washington was even a traitor.
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>>77994905
nice meme
>>77997427
>Why can't we own those?
Because they cost millions if not billions to develop.
>>77997427
>You think a few AR-15's are going to stop the US military?
Yeah like a bunch of farmers with AKs havent stopped the US on multiple occasions
>>77995596
Not a gun nut. I just want to know what an assault rifle is.
Are you incapable of saying?
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>>77994905
People in glass houses. Fucking IWI Tavor Palestinian killing machines can be had in Canada.
>>77997427
Fully enough it's actually possible to get a nuke in the USA provided you follow all the relevant laws regarding explosives, it's just prohibitively expensive. Also, drones, tanks, and jets won't do shit against urban guerrilla fighters, just like they currently barely do shit against mudshit fighters in the ME and had extremely difficult times doing shit against rice niggers in Vietnam. Asymmetrical warfare is the point, they can't bomb their own cities, it's retarded to think they'll do so, they have to use infantry and infantry are vulnerable to bullets.
>>77994905
If you are not a criminal you should be able to own assault rifles imho.
>>77994905
9/11 wouldnt have happened if it was a gun free zone baka
>>77997729
Define a well-regulated militia.
>>77997427
>In what states is is legal to open carry grenades? Can you link me to the law on the books?
Yeah all the ones you can't link me to to where they are illegal. The Constitution takes supreme power and precedence here. Have fun looking through 50 states' worth of laws.
>What about nuclear weapons? Why can't we own those?
You tell me, fag. Cite why we "can't".
>You think a few AR-15's are going to stop the US military?
See pic related, realize how retarded you are, and then ask the jungle gooks in Vietnam how they did it.
>>77997371
Only the mentally ill lack the filters to properly discuss the mentally ill.
>>77997779
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>>77997779
A militia made up of all abled bodied men between 17 and 45 that is in well working order? Are you fucking retarded?
>>77997427
>You think a few Muskets are going to stop the British Military?
>You think a few AK47s are going to stop the US military?
>You think a few IEDs are going to stop the US military?
>>77997779
According to US law it's any able bodied male between the ages of 17 and 45. In addition the SCOTUS has ruled that being a member of an active militia group isn't required to have the right to keep and bear arms (you know, since the right belongs to the people).
>>77997779
Entirely irrelevant, "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state," is merely the justification for "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"
Any semantics-based argument clearly favors those against gun-control. One would need to amend the constitution to get around it
>>77997779
Let the state define it for you and lose what rights you have.
>>77997877
So no fatties? No aspies?
And who calls up the militia and commands it?
>>77995714
>1776 applies to the 21st century
>Bubba owns an AR-15, therefore has parity to govt military arsenal
Jesus christ...
>>77994905
Most Americans cannot own assault rifles, they are a class 3 weapon.
>>77995996
I hear they are coming back in greater numbers
>>77996650
You actually used Cracked as a source? Holy wow.
>>77997958
It is a non-organized militia. It does not need to be called up or commanded. And fatties can still be abled bodied as there are no set standards as there are for the military.
>>77998059
So there is no provision in the Constitution for calling up the militia? Are you sure about that?
Ok, so fatties are allowed. How about blind people? wheel-chair warriors? Are they "able-bodied"?
>>77994905
and civilians in USA are not allowed to own assault rifles since 1986. What's your point?
>>77997276
turns into one what?
>>77998151
I am positive. The Militia is not defined in the Constitution, it is defined in the US Code and the Miltia act, and that is a stupid question, as I just said, there is no defined standard. You are acting retarded because you know you have lost. The Supreme Court has not only ruled in favor of civilian gun ownership, and the Constitution itself merely states the right to bear arms is necessary to form a militia, and the ultimately the people have the right to bear arms.
>>77998335
A battlefield
>>77997592
>Because they cost millions if not billions to develop.
People have private jets, don't they? You don't need to develop them, just buy them.
>Yeah like a bunch of farmers with AKs havent stopped the US on multiple occasions
Afghanistan happens to have some of the worst terrain on earth. There's nothing in the states even close outside of death valley.
>>77997652
Who owns one?
>>77997802
>Yeah all the ones you can't link me to to where they are illegal. The Constitution takes supreme power and precedence here. Have fun looking through 50 states' worth of laws.
You should be able to find at least a few nuts boasting about it somewhere.
>You tell me, fag. Cite why we "can't".
People can't even be responsible with guns.
>See pic related, realize how retarded you are, and then ask the jungle gooks in Vietnam how they did it.
I'm not reading that.
The terrain isn't going to save you from the us military. Red Dawn was not a documentary,
>>77995196
Then how exactly did the United States become free from England?
>>77997600
A gun that is Automatic, selective-fire, intermediate cartridge, external magazine
>>77998442
England had bigger fish to fry and the ocean made logistics too expensive to be worth it. Once they figured out they could get tar from boiling coal, they didn't really care about losing the colonies anymore. There's a reason the revolutionary war covers only half a page in british history books.
>>77998151
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/311#
>>77997779
According to americlaps, a well-regulated militia is a sweaty bubba in a trailer park with a crate of AR-15s
You dun goofed burgers
On the topic of the second amendment, can I legally buy a battle tank? And if so, how?
>>77998151
Able-bodied means those without a physical impairment/disability. Until obesity is considered a disability (this has no chance of happening really, there are just too many of them for disability benefits to be viable) they'll be allowed in.
>How about blind people? wheel-chair warriors? Are they "able-bodied"?
They have a disability, so no
>>77998437
>>77994905
We can own these "assault" rifles in Canada, anybody can buy an AR-15 or AK here with restricted license, which is also not hard to get in Canada a lot of my friends have them.
The only difference is our cuck government makes us pin the clips which has never, ever, stopped a spree terrorist (Bourque) or school shooter nutjob (Kimveer Gill) who just import normal mags or cut the pin out. Criminals have no problem bypassing the pinned clips either.
Personally I don't give a fuck about rifles, I want a law where I can legally conceal carry a handgun to defend myself on the streets as our shitty governments keep filling them with mentally unstable Somali rapefugees
>>77998437
>Afghanistan happens to have some of the worst terrain on earth. There's nothing in the states even close outside of death valley.
What are you, from Kansas? The US has tons of Terrain that is pretty similar, and it does not need to have that, we can have rebels in our own cities, they can't do drone strikes in hometown, USA and kill their own taxbase. A war on US soil is unwinnable for the govt. Turning cities into combat zones eliminate tax dollars and kills morale for your citizens. You think Mr. Drone Operator is going to launch a missile into suburbia? Risking the lives of his fellow citizens? The Pentagon even knows the defection rate if it were to happen would be over 50%
>>77995815
You think SWAT wants to break down the doors of 50 million + people and just pray to god that guy doesnt kill one or two of them in his own house? If AR's get banned im loading mine with green tip 5.56, and keeping it loaded on a peg on my wall by my bed. Come for it, it will make butter of your body armor. I can get one or two of you.
>>77998707
>they can't do drone strikes in hometown, USA and kill their own taxbase.
They won't have to, the populace will oust you themselves. You'll be a terrorist, people don't like terrorists.
I don't think you realize how easy it is for people to kill people once you dehumanize them. We've done it for centuries now. Might as well say "the colonies would never rebel, for we are their countrymen!"
>>77998409
Constitution Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15
"The Congress shall have Power To... provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions"
Whoops.
Looks like the purpose of that well-regulated militia is not to resist government tyranny in armed insurrection, but actually to repel invaders and squash armed insurrection.
>>77998678
Tanks are absurdly expensive and the most modern ones won't be sold to you. But you can buy outdated mbt's and with proper licensing you can buy shells for it
>>77998626
It really doesn't matter what our militias are defined as though, it doesn't say anywhere that "only militia members can bear arms", it says essentially "because a militia is necessary to the security of a free state, the government cannot prevent citizens from owning firearms"
>>77998703
>legally carry a gun to defend myself
>being this paranoid
Holy fuck you are a gigantic pussy.
t. Soldier
>>77998703
The only AKs we can own are the Valmets, but they're non restricted. We can also own a down guns that are equivalent to the AK, also non restricted.
>>77998437
>You should be able to find at least a few nuts boasting about it somewhere.
What the fuck are you even talking about? Link me to where open carrying grenades are illegal anywhere or fuck off, faggot.
>People can't even be responsible with guns.
I've owned plenty of guns throughout my life and haven't shot anyone or anything I didn't intend to shoot down range. This one anecdote disproves this argument.
>I'm not reading that.
Fair enough, I sense that you are a bit drunk considering the hour. Just know that Vietnam is a prime example of guerilla warfare completely rekking the US military.
>>77998824
This is why people shouldn't have guns. Mental instability is endemic in our species.
>>77998824
Internet tough guy
>I AM SILLY!!!!!!
>>77998462
And how many of those guns have been used in any of these mass shootings? In fact, what permit does one need to get in order to own something of that description?
>>77998862
What's wrong with carrying a gun to protect yourself? I don't a shit if people think I'm a pussy, I'd rather be a living pussy than a dead badass.
>>77998885
>What the fuck are you even talking about? Link me to where open carrying grenades are illegal anywhere or fuck off, faggot.
Make me, asshole.
>I've owned plenty of guns throughout my life and haven't shot anyone or anything I didn't intend to shoot down range. This one anecdote disproves this argument.
Anecdotes aren't data, jackass.
>Fair enough, I sense that you are a bit drunk considering the hour. Just know that Vietnam is a prime example of guerilla warfare completely rekking the US military.
My dad was a vietnam vet. There's nothing someone like you could tell me.
>>77998840
>They won't have to, the populace will oust you themselves. You'll be a terrorist, people don't like terrorists.
So guess what? Traitors will be tarred and feathered or killed like they were back in 1776. I agree that it is easy once you dehumanize them, it is easy to fight them. But it's hard to support the government once a missile accidently blows up Mr. And Mrs. White America and their 4 children who were just watching TV. You already see it happen in the ME. People would switch sides seeing war crimes happen right in front of them. You think people would support the US Military once they start locking down streets, restricting travel and searching houses without permission?
>>77998688
So, according to law, only people who should be able to buy a gun are people not in wheel chairs, not blind, and between ages of 17 and 45, as they are the well-regulated militia?
>>77998873
IIRC, aren't semi-auto center fire rifles classified as restricted? I think your pic is fucked.
>>77997965
Private citizens legally owned warships and cannons when it was written.
>>77994905
FUCK YOU LEAF
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>77997889
Fucking proud of you, Leaf.
>>77999084
Well-regulated militia
>>77998992
>to protect yourself
How could a gun ever be sufficient for that task? If you're okay with degrees of safety that aren't absolute, hey, welcome to the rest of the world that doesn't need to carry a gun.
>>77998862
Tell me all about your deployment hiding in a tent. Where I live there's gangster sand nogs that have moved in everywhere and I don't particularily enjoy getting in a knife fight 10 vs 1 trying to keep them off my wife.
t. 1RCR Petawawa 1993
>>77999020
You're the traitor though. By definition raising arms against the government of the land is terrorism. Nobody is going to support you, they're going to laugh and send you boxes of dildos at best.
>>77999037
>Ignores the numerous times he has been told the Supreme Court has clarified that personal ownership is a right, regardless of being in a militia
>>77997889
Scotus also says a fetus isn't a person but corporations are.
>>77999113
>not carrying a gun
>>77998929
No assault rifle has ever been used in a mass shooting in the USA, in fact only 2 registered machine guns were ever used in criminal acts since 1934, and one of the owners was actually a former cop. To own a firearm capable of full auto is nearly year long process including background checks, registration, and dealing with the ATF, just so you can buy a firearm who's price has been artificially inflated because there haven't been any new full auto guns entering the civilian market since the 80s.
>>77998994
>>I've owned plenty of guns throughout my life and haven't shot anyone or anything I didn't intend to shoot down range. This one anecdote disproves this argument.
>Anecdotes aren't data, jackass.
You made a blanket statement that it's impossible to own a gun without being irresponsible with it. One person being responsible is all it takes to prove you wrong.
>>77999084
Its...beautiful.
>>77999108
>Debunked
I'm convinced you are trolling because you keep getting BTFO and then ignoring it
>>77999037
>A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the well regulated militia to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Which version are you reading?
>>77994905
Yes there is. It's called the second amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America
>>77999216
>You made a blanket statement that it's impossible to own a gun without being irresponsible with it. One person being responsible is all it takes to prove you wrong.
I never said impossible. I guess your tinfoil helmet is leaking.
>>77999188
I would be a traitor to the government, not the people. You forget who gets power from who. The government gets power from the people. Our founding fathers were traitors to the British. I was speaking merely for traitors to our side.
>>77999216
Ok, so now that we've established that assault weapons aren't actually a problem, and that they're already really hard to get; why do people want to ban them?
>>77998992
Because it is impractical to guarantee only level-headed people such as ourselves to be armed. Psychos slip through the cracks and ruin it for everyone. Its not worth it.
>>77999069
Nope, only if the barrel length is under 18.5". Otherwise they're NR.
>Centerfire semi autos with a barrel length >18.5" are NR unless named otherwise
>Centerfire semi autos with a barrel length <18.5" are restricted
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCUMv120oCw
"What is it like to fire an AR-15? It’s horrifying, menacing and very very loud.
It felt to me like a bazooka — and sounded like a cannon.
But mostly, I was just terrified.
Squeeze lightly on the trigger and the resulting explosion of firepower is humbling and deafening (even with ear protection).
The recoil bruised my shoulder, which can happen if you don't know what you're doing. The brass shell casings disoriented me as they flew past my face. The smell of sulfur and destruction made me sick. The explosions — loud like a bomb — gave me a temporary form of PTSD. For at least an hour after firing the gun just a few times, I was anxious and irritable."
Gersh (((Kuntzman)))
Globalist Propagandist
New York Daily News
>>77994905
a fucking leaf
>>77999188
>raising arms against the government of the land is terrorism
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
>>77999037
what law?
You think the first part of the 2nd Amendment is a prerequisite to keeping and bearing arms?
>>77998929
Not many, but I know that it's harder to get. Also I know a few people refuse to get them since they worry that the government would spy on them.
>>77999037
No, according to the law " the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed".
"The people", not "the militia". "A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state" is a justification clause
>>77999077
And private citizens used to own slaves. What's your point? All I'm trying to say was that the 2nd Amendment was vital to Revolutionary America, but NOW its anachronistic.
>>77999323
Because liberals are retards that believe whatever.
>>77994905
All memes aside, OP is a faggot.
Sage this shitty thread. The fact that it has 220 replies is why /pol/ is dying
>>77999343
What a fucking
C U C K
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>>77994905
There's no reason you should be allowed a lot of shit.
>>77999320
The colonies were british. Born and raised. It's how they self-identified. Washington himself was a british general before becoming what we would call a terrorist.
Just because you think you're right and just and noble does not mean everyone is going to support you. Look at how well it worked out for those ranchers in oregon. That's exactly what you can expect.
>>77997555
God damnit anon, they didn't kill innocent women and children, they did not employ terror tactics, and they fought for the rights of all men. Stop being a faggot.
>>77999271
The second amendment is directly and specifically referring to a well-regulated militia as the reason people should be armed.
If you are not within the criteria of what constitutes a militia, you have no reason to be armed. Furthermore, according to the Constitution, the purpose of the militia (and being armed) is NOT to fight the government if you don't like it (that's what elections are for), but rather to help the government kill gun-nuts, Canadians, and Beaners that want to invade.
>>77998994
>Make me, asshole.
No, I won't. So this entire argument is null and void, thanks man.
>Anecdotes aren't data, jackass.
Your argument was
>People can't even be responsible with guns.
All it takes is an anecdote to prove you retarded broad premise when you put it up like that. I have been responsible with guns, therefore, your argument is invalid.
>My dad was a vietnam vet. There's nothing someone like you could tell me.
What about guerilla warfare completely destroying the US military?
>>77999348
That doesn't mean you can do as you please.
>>77994905
But all assult rifles are memes tbqh
>>77996783
>>77994905
All Memes aside, I don't see why Canadia needs access to the interbutts.
>>77999113
More degree of safety for myself if I have a weapon that I can use to effectively protect myself regardless of who happens to be assaulting me.
>>77999094
Love you too Ameribro.
>>77999198
Then have the ruling overturned. Until then, the right belongs to the people.
>>77999310
>People can't even be responsible with guns.
Said at >>77998437
>>77999323
Because some people are cowards that can't handle others having responsibility.
>>77999325
Statistical improbability. Even in the USA. Plus I'd rather be armed and capable of defending myself against criminals and the insane who can get guns illegally anyways.
>>77999348
Nothing about that statement mentions armed insurrection. Your method of altering or abolishing the government is election day.
>>77994905
All memes aside, there is no reason ordinary civilians should have access to the internet.
>>77999482
Not everyone supported the American Revolution and look how well that worked.
>The States are American. Born and raised. It's how they self identified. _____ himself was a US Commander before becoming what we would call a terrorist
>>77999500
They weren't a country, they weren't a military. They were just a group of people using violence and tools of war to gain what they desired.
Sound familiar? History is written by the victors, but it doesn't change their actions.
>>77994905
>check flag
Oh its that dog fucking country again...
>>77999428
And so, without the well-regulated militia to justify the right to keep and bear arms, there is no justification.
Thanks for clarifying that.
>>77999512
>The second amendment is directly and specifically referring to a well-regulated militia as the reason people should be armed.
No it is not you fucking cuck, this has been proven time and fucking time again. Holy shit you are so dense.
>>77997555
>george washington was even a traitor.
>>77999512
the right of the people to keep and bear arms, is what shall not be infringed because the people need to be able to form a militia in order to secure a free state.
>>77999526
>All it takes is an anecdote to prove you retarded broad premise when you put it up like that. I have been responsible with guns, therefore, your argument is invalid.
You really think this is a debate?
>What about guerilla warfare completely destroying the US military?
Lot easier to pull off in horrible terrain across the ocean.
>>77997729
I'm glad I took part in that
that one (you) made me feel extra patriotic
>>77997779
well-regulated: well-equipped
militia: the people/citizenry
>>77999673
Rights need no justification.
>>77999673
One possible justification. SCOTUS ruled it belongs to the people regardless. And on top of that, everyone is a part of the militia.
>>77999694
He was a british general. Tell me how killing your own countrymen does not make you a traitor.
>>77999608
>election day
>government says "lol, no u"
What now, faggot?
>>77999677
Then why not just say "people are allowed to own guns"?
>>77999711
Right... all able-bodied white men between the ages of 17 and 45 are what will make up that militia.
If you're not in that range, you have no reason to own a weapon because you're not going to be part of the militia when it forms.
>>77999128
>getting in a knife fight 10 vs 1 trying to keep them off my dependapotamus
Dude... Seriously, you're embarrassing yourself
>>77999512
>the purpose of the militia (and being armed) is NOT to fight the government
A tyrannical state is a free state?
