Dear pedantic shits saying it's a Sig Sauer MCX, not an AR-15, and not an assault rifle: FUCK YOU
Someone in another thread got preachy with me when I referred to the Orlando killer's weapon as an assault weapon. Apparently there are some technical specs that distinguish this high volume murder machine from the the high volume murder machines that earn the designation "assault rifle". But please let me point out, Fuck you, over 100 people were fucking assaulted by a guy using that weapon and half of them are dead.
On Mediaite, a news-review website, there's a lengthy article taking the NY Times and WaPo to task for reporting the rifle used was an AR-15, not the "similar looking but significantly different" Sig Sauer MCX. And then, when they finally corrected their stories, they didn't really detail the differences in the operations of the two different non-assault rifles. But please, allow me to point out, fuck you, 49 innocent people are dead and either weapon could have been used to commit this horror.
>>77977669
And last time our country went through this insane ritual discussion, my gun nut friend and I got into it and I was saying--these guns are dangerous. These guns aren't for hunting and they aren't for defense. They should be illegal--and my gun nut friend like your gun nut friends do too went into some technical mumbo jumbo about how these are rifles not guns and these are not technically "high capacity" because of some feature being there or not there in the manufacture and how are you going to legally regulate and distinguish... blah blah blah...
and excuse me, but I'm not a gun expert. I don't have to be. People are being killed in record numbers by these mass shooting incidents. If a hit-and-run victim gets wheeled into an ER, the doctors are not going to sit around arguing about whether it was a Ford or a Chevy that plowed down this pedestrian. So please allow me to point out, fuck you, I want these kinds of guns off the market, these non-assault rifles that assault innocent people by the goddamn dozens, whether or not they meet the legal definition of "assault-like firearm", whether or not they meet the definition of "high capacity", whether or not the second fucking comma in the 2nd Amendment is a punctuation error because it separates the noun from the verb. Fuck you.
>>77977669
>>77977701
Look at the floor of the Orlando night club, the office park in San Bernardino, the schoolhouse in Newtown CT. Look at the pictures of the bodies and the puddles of blood until you understand what assault really means. The weapons that can do that, that can cover those floors with dead people, any weapon that can do that needs to be off the market. And as much as I love the Bill of Rights, every fucking firearm that can do that in the country needs to be pulled out of circulation, out of inventory, out of reach of second hand weapons expos and burned down to scrap metal.
You can keep your 223 Remingtons and your back-of-the-closet handguns and your birding shotguns and anything else that your toddler is going to use to shoot your neighbor's toddler in the eye with by accident--I'm not so naive as to think we're going to ever have a gun free society. Accidents are always going to happen, from the easily preventable to the Act of God freak occurrence. I'm just saying 9 is less than 49 and if this Omar Marteen bastard had had only the option of charging into Pulse nightclub in his psychotic anger and gunning down 9 innocent people instead then an additional 40 families would not be mourning this week. Maybe you don't call that progress. If you can't then fuck you, you care enough about people.
And I know this one little reform isn't going to cure right wing militarism or homophobia or mental illness or the glorification of violence or toxic masculinity that are behind all of these senseless slaughterfests. I get that. You're right. But we don't wait to cure alcoholism before we start passing drunk driving laws. You take the toys away from the boys. You stop the bleeding. If we can't cure it all, we can at least reduce the size of the problem. That's progress. And it needs to happen starting literally last week.
SHALL
You just want to ban semi autos. Be honest about it, assault weapons are nothing more than semi auto rifles with ebil black plastic on then.
>>77977669
http://www.assaultweapon.info/
Read this and fuck off.
>>77977768
The 2nd amendment was a mistake and the constitution is not even worth the ancient paper it is printed on.
>>77977908
Then leave.
Fun fact: No bait is so bad that /pol/ won't take it.
>>77977908
Leave go to Europe see how you like living in your utopia.
>>77977669
Id love to own cannon, how many do you think I could kill with one shot of grape into a crowd from a 32lb carronade?
>>77978148
I have traveled all over the globe. Not once did I walk the streets of a foreign country in the middle of the night with any fears. People of all race, creeds, colors and class walking the streets peacefully. In this"civilized country"? No fucking way. Sure we have our "freedoms"... but gunnuts keep us reasonable people in chains. Chains of fear of being shot.
>>77977908
First, it doesn't really matter what you think. Second, the Constitution doesn't "give" us jack shit, it guarantees our natural rights will be upheld by our government.
>>77978202
About 50 fags
Maybe like 20 or so kids if you use babby seeking assault clipazines
>>77977768
NOT
>>77977669
pasta
sage
>>77978202
nobody is fucking stupid to not know youre hauling that half a ton shit to the scene
stop watching family guy you trump tourist retard
>>77978442
This is the 800 year anniversary of the Magna Carta. Only three of its many statutes are considered relevant today. And so it will go with the Second Amendment.... eventually. I only hope it won't take 550 years.
>>77978552
Anyways, what part of Well regulated in the 2nd amendment do you gun nuts not understand, It was put in there to protect us from people like you.
Here's a video for you shitstains to get educated from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbY45rHj8w
>>77977908
Sounds like you'd be more at home in North Korea.
The thing is,no matter how you try to get a gun "out of the market" there is a really simple place that criminals adquire guns from
AND IT IS CALLED THE BLACK MARKET , do you really think criminals go to gun stores and straight away buy an AR15?
Laws don't apply to the blackmarket and if you could ever get rid of all the other guns you would have guys making bombs that would kill the same amount of fucking people.
>>77978610
>Load my cannon onto a pickup
>Put a cap on my pickup
>Drive near a line
>Blastem
>I'm already in my getaway truck
It's like you don't even terrorism, Timothy McVeigh used a generic rider rental truck
>>77978827
>This person was v& for this post.
>>77977701
>obvious bait getting replies
Summer truly is when fish are easiest to catch.
>>77977669
The 2nd amendment exists as a counter measure against government tyranny. That there would be any limits on the types of guns that can be owned makes no sense.
>>77978977
The right to bear arms is ALREADY “infringed” for many, and for very good reason. Here’s a short list of things that could easily happen if we were to give you your way, remove all “infringements,” and completely deregulate the Second Amendment:
>A career felon could walk out of prison, and purchase a full-auto AK-47 from Walmart
>Your psycho ex could buy a sniper rifle and silencer from “some guy” for $100
>A mentally handicapped child could get a pistol from a vending machine
>Known terrorists and those with terrorist affiliations could easily purchase Stinger missile launchers to shoot down airliners, and RPGs to blow up your Hummer
>Any nutjob could walk out of the asylum, buy a grenade launcher and flamethrower, and visit your kids at school.
>>77977768
>>77978552
Thanks for revealing your hilariously low IQs
>>77977669
this is the 3rd time i've seen this thread posted
>>77977908
You should go to China
>>77977701
>record numbers
nein
>>77979028
>muh a arr fiften is gunna protect muh trailur against a fighter jet or drones or nukes or entire army of soldjurs
It's impossible to argue with you gun nuts. You have the standard answer for all of this. "The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun." You think other church members should have been armed. You are a fucking problem on modern society and a enable racist pieces of shit to murder innocent people. Their blood is on your hands.
>>77979032
Oh and tell me why you guys shouldn't keep weapons to protect from tyrants?
>>77977908
>Gun love is like religion. Facts are useless.
You are, for all intents and purposes, "climate deniers," flat earthers, science deniers. You have a huge emotional stake in not seeing the "causality" of things you espouse, to things that are happening.
>>77978776
Well regulated has little meaning when the right to bear arms shall not be infringed
>>77979179
Jesus christ take a tip from a colonial war veteran and go read a book about urban warfare
>>77979032
At least he'd have his God-given rights.
Seriously its impossible to argue with these retards they'll literally just throw up their hands and shout "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED." Good thing these retards will never get representation in government
>>77979182
If there really was a massive tyrant in the government you wouldn't have your guns. The argument would've already been skipped
>>77978148
Good point. Will you un-kill the 30,000-odd Americans killed by guns in the last 12 months and send them to Europe, please? What, you CAN'T resurrect the dead? Hmm. Maybe you'd better put a muzzle on those guns, then.
>>77977669
>That picture
The first school shooting in America was in 1764 and 10 people were killed, before the 2nd Amendment even existed. But sure, we need to ban the big scary assault rifles, because those are what's causing shootings.
>>77977669
>physical contact
>assault
>not murder and aggravated battery
Git gud liberal faggot.
How can you expect to reasonably impose new laws when you fail to understand existing ones?
>>77977669
This is how fucking stupid you libtard anti-gunners are. You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about, so yes, people with guns make fun of your retarded kin by pretending the mcx isn't actually an ar platform. You legislate against shit you know nothing about, you overly-pedantic cunt.
>>77979032
Even with no regulations you wouldn't be getting a sniper rifle and silencer for $100.
Optics cost a shitload.
>>77979277
>your NRA spoonfed simpleton interpretation means jack shit
That is because people aren't reading right or thinking hard enough when it comes to words.
Anyways the Supremes can rule as they see fit. Slavery used to be legal and accepted in America, too, and their 'votes' cast by their 'masters' were worth a percentage of a white vote. That idiocy was enshrined in law, too. Didn't make it right, didn't make it sensible, didn't make it reflective of our values as a nation.
Maybe we can get over this dumbass gun culture. That's MY hope. It should be at least as hard to qualify to get a gun as it is to get a driver's license. Frankly, I'd like to see it be a bit harder.
I'm tired of children being gunned down. A kid was murdered in front of a local high school yesterday, and a couple others wounded, by someone driving by. The kid was the baby of the family, a "stay home" type, a good student, and he had the bad luck to be in front of his own school to catch some lead during a fire drill.
Sick of this crap. I've had enough.
I'm not alone, either.
You realize handguns are used for a lot more murders than assault rifles right?
>>77978442
This is a wishful fiction. We do not have natural rights without also having natural responsibilities.
>>77979306
It serves has a deterrent and protection against one (see siege of Atenas)
>>77979457
>>77979277
I think it just requires five justices to think a bit differently about the meanings of words.
reg·u·late
ˈreɡyəˌlāt/
verb
past tense: regulated; past participle: regulated
control or maintain the rate or speed of (a machine or process) so that it operates properly.
"a hormone that regulates metabolism and organ function"
synonyms: control, adjust, manage
"the flow of the river has been regulated"
control or supervise (something, especially a company or business activity) by means of rules and regulations.
"the organization that regulates fishing in the region"
synonyms: supervise, police, monitor, check, check up on, be responsible for; More
set (a clock or other apparatus) according to an external standard.
Boom, gun nuts BTFO.
>>77978776
Sad m9.
Keep up the good work, you're not alone here
>>77978776
>It was put in there to protect us from people like you.
Naw, i was put in there because Britain was seizing people's guns so they could suppress the population un-resisted. What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>77977669
Your rant is pointless. Americans have the right bear arms, which includes the AR-15 and all its variants. Whats so fucking hard to understand about that?
And the minute people like you try to actually take them away is the moment a civil war starts thats gonna lead to millions dead, not just 40 or 50 people.
If a fucking leaf can understand this, why the fuck cant you?
Tl;dr: Fuck you
>>77977669
>>77977701
>>77977751
tl;dr
cry more
don't care
here, have an assault hotdog
>cartoon is distributed and printed in mediums not intended by the first amendment or considered by the founding fathers.
>>77979315
> first school shooting in America
>done by four Lenape American Indian
>4 were killed by firearms
>6 were bludgeoned to death
ok kid
>>77979125
INFRINGED
Jesus fucking christ sometimes I question why I am still responding to bait threads if the OP never bothers to look up to my posts..
This isn't even good bait.
>>77979630
Wrong side of history - they chip away..
>>77977669
You know the gun is just a glorified .22, right?
Go home shill.
Sage
>>77977669
I wasn't aware that any innocent people died
>>77979755
Problem I have found is that gun fanciers are often irrational, hence gun love. You can't talk logically/rationally to a person who straps a gun or two on to venture out into public.
Rational arguments don't work on emotional issues, the republiCON party discovered this a while ago.
>>77977669
>>77977669
>FUCK YOU
not an argument
>>77977669
This is not /pol/ related, report this shit and send the faggot back to /k/ where they will just laugh at him and post humiliating memes.
>>77977669
If you're ignorant about something, you shouldn't have an opinion on it. You don't know shit about guns or violent crime.
>>77978207
You're so delusional I'm ashamed we share the same flag.
>>77979712
The right to bear arms is ALREADY “infringed” for many, and for very good reason. Here’s a short list of things that could easily happen if we were to give you your way, remove all “infringements,” and completely deregulate the Second Amendment:
>A career felon could walk out of prison, and purchase a full-auto AK-47 from Walmart
>Your psycho ex could buy a sniper rifle and silencer from “some guy” for $100
>A mentally handicapped child could get a pistol from a vending machine
>Known terrorists and those with terrorist affiliations could easily purchase Stinger missile launchers to shoot down airliners, and RPGs to blow up your Hummer
>Any nutjob could walk out of the asylum, buy a grenade launcher and flamethrower, and visit your kids at school.
>>77979311
Don't worry about the dead, they are in a better place.
>>77979797
1st amendment is literally freedom to question government.
>>77980018
Gun control is a political issue. I got banned from /k/ for doing this and told to come here.
>>77977669
>appeal to emotion arguement
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/msm-talks-gun-control-50-killed-knife-attack-china/
Fuck your non arguement.
It was islamic violence against gays. If guns were banned, he could have used a knife, a bomb, gas. Or even a box cutter to hijack a plane, remember that?
You don't have a gun problem. You have a muslim problem. How do you lefties reconcile being tolerant to muslims when they abuse women and call homosexuality a sin worthy of being stoned to death?
>>77978688
The whole point of the Magna Carta was to say that the King couldn't just arrest whoever he liked or do whatever he liked. That's the important part of it.
>>77979032
You are so ignorant it's not even funny.
>>77979272
Says someone who literally knows nothing about firearms.
>>77980050
Pretty sure those Orlando Fags are in Hell, bruh.
>>77977669
>Crtl + f
>No gunfacts.info
Step it up faggots
What about SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED do you not understand?
>>77980028
if youre walking at night in japan for example and someone decide to mug you with a knife, take out your own knife and watch the pussy flee
try doing the same with an armed mugger here in the us youll be shot before your hand even manage to reach your waist
>>77980093
Go somewhere else. Gun control doesn't prevent gun crime or mass shootings. This is a statistical fact.
>>77979899
Neither can I try to argue with someone who hasn't any clear idea how criminal shooting activities work/Urban Warfare/Black Market about some islamic knob head who decided it was a good idea to shoot up a gay bar
>>77980076
That's why it's been used a defense of pornography in the past? And against libel and slander cases that had nothing to do with government?
>>77978977
>>77977701
>Granlund
Say no more senpai.
>>77980041
>what are price controls
>also what is surrendering rights out of fear
Hagis couldn't push back the American military, only stall them. But they could get the American public to turn against itself and give up everything out of fear of a few individuals.
It's like this thread is the culmination of every b8 thread about guns since Orlando. Epic shitpost my friend. Here's a (((you)))
>>77977669
It's not an assault rifle, it's not select-fire.
>>77977669
'Assault weapon' is a term thought up in the 90's for branding purposes. Kind of like how some people call the estate tax the 'death tax', and some people call late term abortion 'partial birth abortion'. Same concept. The term assault weapon was thought up to brand these weapons for political reasons.
>>77977669
Second largest mass shooting in us history was done with a bolt action rifle.
>>77977751
Only 2% of murders are committed with a rifle of any kind. Fixing the gang problem would accomplish a lot more and doesn't even require dealing with Congress.
>>77977751
Firearms are part of Malthusian population control, you fucktard.
>>77980101
LOL
>BAN ALL MUSLIMS
We do have a Muslim problem, but it's irrational retards like you who ruin the conversation about Islam with your idiotic ideas.
>>77980353
Depends on the gun control laws in place.
>>77980551
Second largest was Virginia tech. He had a glock
>>77980041
>>77977908
go move to cuba, commie
>>77977669
>ut please, allow me to point out, fuck you, 49 innocent people are dead
Furthermore, even counting the 49 dead in Orlando, at the end of the year there will sill be more than twice as many people killed by bare hands and feet than any type of rifle.
>>77977669
Didn't also shoot .300 blackout as well? That is more of a meme round than the 40 "Short and Weak" which makes his high score even more impressive, I'm more inclined to believe that he was not working alone.
>>77977669
Words matter faggot.
How can you be against something you don't understand.
Also, Sage. you don't get my bump
Fuck you
>>77978207
You're a special kind of idiot then. I do night photography, and work a night job. If you're afraid to walk around in the city at night, the problem is probably you.
>>77977669
Sup Project Bluebeam/GLP/Tavistock, you realize you're trying to kick off civil war right?
t. The American People
Shilling in this thread is outta control
>>77977669
It's not an AR-15, it's a Sig Sauer MCX.
The militia is regulated, not the people.
Now if you say everyone is in the militia, well then you need that militia (the people) to be prepared to defend themselves from tyrannical governments. So, you wouldn't want to limit their firearms all too much.
>>77980601
>Fixing the gang problem would accomplish a lot more and doesn't even require dealing with Congress
How the fuck are we going to fix gangs? That would be far harder to deal with than just common sense gun control
>>77980390
>porno
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion."
>libel and slander
hulk hogan won $150 million from gawker.
>>77977669
>>77979797
>those digits
OP utterly btfo with an image that is 100% as retarded as any of the images he used
>>77979179
Uhhhm, have you heard of the Iraq war? Or the war on terrorism i afganistan?
Those little eeh arr fifteeenz will absolutely defend your trailer from the government. You just have to use different tactics to fight them.
>>77980821
Police them properly.
Your common sense gun control is attempting to target 2% of the problem.
>>77980041
>buy a sniper rifle and silencer from “some guy” for $100
>sniper rifle and silencer
FFS, how long until the next COD comes out and the kids have something to do?
>>77977669
There is no such thing as an assault rifle.
>>77980906
we cant even go for groceries without showing our sturmgewehr at the cashier
>>77981061
Is that Louisiana at the very top?
>>77977669
>that picture
He would have probably gotten shot in the face or stabbed to death with bayonets because pretty much every other person would have been equally armed. Which is the entire point of the amendment.
call me when some muslim tries to mass shot an american rifle convention.
>>77977669
Nice picture. Too bad there were revolvers back then. Two of those would do quite a lot of damage.
>>77980983
>Police them properly
Wow great idea very detailed. Are you a genius or something? I've never heard a better explanation they should fucking put those words up on a plaque in front of the motherfucking White House.
Imagine in big bold letters
"Police them properly"
Stop being vague.
>>77979032
you do know that our constitution does allow for a citizen to lose their rights, provided he/she is given due process, right?
It's not unconstitutional to to deny a convicted felon his second amendment rights. He was found guilty in a court of law, he was given the choice to be tried by a jury of his peers, and given a fair and speedy trial as well as all the other things that go into "due process".
You also seem to base most of your argument on this idea that only muskets existed at the time where the Constitution was ratified. Let me dispel that fiction for you.
Puckle Gun: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puckle_gun
patented in 1718
Girandoni Air Rifle:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_air_rifle
Given to the Lewis and Clarke expedition, which happened during Thomas Jefferson's presidency. First Repeating Rifle to see military service. Could fire 20 rounds in about 30 seconds
And finally, the final nail in the coffin, the Belton Flintlock
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belton_flintlock
The funny thing about this gun is appearently, there are no surviving examples. As a matter of fact, one of the few proofs we have of it's existence is correspondence between the continental congress of 1777 and Belton. You see, the founding fathers were so enamored with this repeating assault weapon they wanted to commission Belton to make a bunch for the Army. Unfortunately for Belton, his price quote was too high and Congress ended up not commissioning.
As a matter of fact, I find it funny that you think the men who were intelligent enough to form a country that would become the greatest Superpower in human history, where too fucking stupid to imagine that weapons technology would advance. I mean, it's not like we went from throwing rocks to tying them to the ends of sticks, to tying them to the ends of sticks that can be shot from a bow, to designing a metal tube that can expel a lead ball at a high velocity using gunpowder.
cont.
>>77977751
Next week on Liberal Agenda LIVE:
Nobody NEEDS an assault sniper hunting rifle. Just look at this clocktower sniper event we staged with the same crisis actors from two months ago. Those poor transsexual teenagers that couldn't defend themselves on gun-free campuses are victims of rampant hate and it's all your fault white man.
And tune in next week for a discussion on ASSAULT pump shotguns. Do we really NEED shotgun shells at all? This bomb that we staged again at the Boston marathon was used with shotgun ammunition gunpowder.
But seriously anon, I really want to help you understand how bullshit this campaign of theirs really is. It's about the gov't pulling its trust from the citizens and using it for control.
>>77979311
I've put several muzzles on a variety of guns
>>77980927
Why would unions enact gun control? Doesn't seem like a good way to raise wages.
>>77979311
>Aus wants to send thousands of American niggers to Europe
You cheeky cunt
>>77981274
Republicans think due process is more important than safety. If you're dead, rights don't matter.
>>77981219
Feel free to explain how targeting less than 2% of murder weapons is going to accomplish anything instead of evading.
I'll leave the hows of policing to those qualified. It's not a question that gang areas are undermanned.
>assault weapon
This meme pisses me off so much
People can't leagally own an assault weapon, it's illegal to own an automatic gun, therefore it can't be an assault weapon
Pic related is an M1A, would you believe me if I told you it was just as "dangerous" as a legal AR15?
>>77981504
why don't you just link us to your tumblr page your obviously just getting it all from there
>>77981504
Most of this is false. Fuck off
>>77981504
Rights only matter if you can defend them. Which is why we have a 2nd Amendment.
Thank you for coming full circle
>>77981504
Due process IS more important than safety you hmong. If you dont have due process, you have no safety.
>>77979179
>Their blood is on your hands.
Actually it's on yours.
>>77981645
>7.62 NATO
Its more dangerous to unarmored civilians if I remember correctly
Weren't puckle guns a thing when the second amendment was written?
>>77981504
>due process is more important than safety
yes, it is
it's call the 5th amendment
>If you're dead, rights don't matter.
nice job arguing against yourself
self defense is a natural right
>>77981645
Pic related is an AR15
Let's see the similarities between both guns
>both shoot .223/5.56 (same caliber, one just burns hotter, both rifles can shoot either caliber)
>both semi automatic (this is the kicker)
>both can hold 30 round mags and higher
>both can be modified with longer/shorter barrels, optics, etc
Anything I missed? Oh yeah, both are the same price
But you want to ban AR15s cause they scare you
>>77981522
>Feel free to explain how targeting less than 2% of murder weapons is going to accomplish anything instead of evading.
Firearms are less than 2% of weapons used?
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2009-2013.xls
Pic and link related
>>77981522
>It's not a question that gang areas are undermanned.
What gang areas are you referring to? Los Angeles has a lot of gangs yet it has a large police force
>>77977669
OP is a faggot
This is a shill, pasta from a week ago. Sage report and move on
>>77977751
How dare you use the image of The Most Holy Murder Cube in your post! Your blasphemous soul will rot in all eternity for this. Ave Nex Alea.
>>77977669
You do know private citizens could own cannons or even giant ship of the lines right?
Those could cause massive damage to cities.
>>77981645
It is perfectly legal to own a fully-automatic weapon provided one has filed for and obtained a NFA Class III permit. This includes federal background check, and the stipulation that the government may inspect any NFA-permitted weapons during the period a person hold the permit and owns the firearm.
To date there have been 2 people killed by legally-owned and permitted automatic weapons, and a total of one bank robbery.
>>77977908
Ironic that this post trashing the Constitution is guaranteed by it.
>>77981812
Modern military tactics are weird. Assault weapons, aka automatics, are used mostly for supressive fire. Semi-automatics are meant to wound, hence using a smaller caliber, to wound an enemy. A wounded enemy requires medical attention and takes a healthy enemy out of the fight to care for him. Only snipers are meant to kill in the light arms department. If we wanted to kill you, we would just use artillery or air strikes and there's not shit you could do about it.
>>77981645
>just as dangerous
>not incredibly more dangerous
Also
>thinking gungrabber libtards can into ballistics
>>77977669
>he thinks fags and degenerates are people
>>77981952
>Firearms are less than 2% of weapons used?
Rifles are less than 2% of murders, according to the FBI. Something you would have noticed if you'd bothered to read the data provided at the link you used.
>>77982098
Yeah, but they have to jump through a shit ton of govt hoops, as well as paying tax on it, and all that shit
But it just pisses me off when they throw around "assault" like it applies to any mil-spec rifle
>>77982005
This isn't pasta dumb fuck.
>>77981952
>Rifles of any kind
Keep up now.
And the police are not adequate in the areas that need them or we wouldn't be having 60+ murders every weekend in Chicago.
>>77977908
The 2nd amendment was a mistake
-James Madison
>>77977669
Fake and gay
Sage motherfucker.
Sage you faggot troll motherfucker
Eat shit
>>77977751
>You can keep your 223 Remingtons and your back-of-the-closet handguns and your birding shotguns
Pretty sure they can keep their AR-15s too.
>>77977669
>On Mediaite
bait and advertising
nice job biting, /pol/
>>77981274
Now, you use the evil scary "black assault rifle" but swear you don't want to touch handguns. Just for safety, right?
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-20
yeah, yeah, "but it's 2014!?!?! find something more recent!?1/1"
2014 is literally close enough.
248 murders by rifles throughout the year of 2014, 248. You are literally more likely to die in a car crash, or get attacked by a shark, than get attacked by a man with a rifle.
Handguns are by far the most dangerous of all weapons. So there goes your "safety" argument.
I'd like to end it off with this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller
most notably is Breyer's dissenting opinion, which was joined by all dissenting judges.
>The Breyer dissent also objected to the "common use" distinction used by the majority to distinguish handguns from machineguns: "But what sense does this approach make? According to the majority’s reasoning, if Congress and the States lift restrictions on the possession and use of machineguns, and people buy machineguns to protect their homes, the Court will have to reverse course and find that the Second Amendment does, in fact, protect the individual self-defense-related right to possess a machine-gun...There is no basis for believing that the Framers intended such circular reasoning."[52]
In laymens terms... Ban all guns or ban none. The second amendment does not allow a "compromise" if you will. There is literally no way to interpret the second amendment to say "some weapons are okay but others are not"
Either the people have a right to keep and bear arms, or the people only have a right to keep and bear arms while participating in a "well regulated militia"
I'm sorry, no matter how much your feelings are hurt, it's sad people died but lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
>>77977896
underrated post
>>77977669
>mass killer
>1775
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>>77982303
You are one of the the most fucking robotic moron I've ever seen. I sweat all you fucking trigglypuff orbiting faggots are all the same, spout the same inane arguments, wear the same clothes, orbit the same fat slob femicunts, and generally all seem to mark yourselves with the most retarded tattoos. You and the rest of your ilk are actual cookie cutter douchebags.
And yes, it is pasta, every fucking reddit word of it.
>>77977751
YOU DARE DISRESPECT THE /K/UBE
>>77977669
>>77977701
>>77977751
Cry more, faggot
>>77977669
>tfw I just bought a LWRC IC-enhanced
>tfw all four bills failed
>tfw I bought it so we can keep two IC-SPR's
>tfw a few extra M6A2's
>tfw collecting 30 round AR mags
Hi FBI
>>77981077
Based Medpack
>>77981504
>Conservatives supported Slavery
Allow me to just stop you right there, my friend.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Davis
>>77977669
>high volume
What?
>either weapon could have been used
Yeah, and a bolt-action rifle could be used. Can't you admit you want to ban all guns, not just some?
>These guns aren't for hunting and they aren't for defense.
It's not a case of need. But to answer that, what distinguishes a gun made out of black plastic from a gun made out of wood? Nothing, actually. An AR-15 isn't more lethal than any other type of gun.
>>77977908
Then fuck off!
>>77978977
that's the thing, the guy on bottom right doesn't have the same as the military, as does the guy on the left.
>>77982852
>STOP DISAGREEING WITH ME
>>77977701
That picture is shitty as fuck. Musket was modern military service weapon back then. Today 'murricans will have problems to get a modern military service rifle as only pre-1986 machine guns are legal.
>>77979179
What the fuck is that guy hunting with? An anti tank rifle?
>>77979630
Damn.... that's a sweet sesame seed rail mount bun breh
>>77979457
>Slavery used to be legal and accepted in America, too, and their 'votes' cast by their 'masters' were worth a percentage of a white vote. That idiocy was enshrined in law, too. Didn't make it right, didn't make it sensible, didn't make it reflective of our values as a nation.
by definition, it did
not that I agree, but the reality is, it did
>if only the slaves were armed
>then they wouldn't have been slaves
correct?
Ok, please explain which gun you think is more dangerous OP
>a semi automatic AR15, similar to the MCX used for the shooting in Orlando (that's not the only gay bar that received hot loads that night)
OR
>a semi automatic PTR91, pic related
>the founders never predicted any advancement in guns whatsoever
>there were no guns that fired more than one shot at a time
>the pepperbox revolver never existed
>military advancement in weapons are only for military, that's why they wrote the 2nd amendment, to ensure the military had weapons??
>what is the English common law right to self preservation?
>what is the English bill of rights (1689) that the bill of rights was based off of with a "right to arms" provision"
Pic related, plunker, early prototype of a Gatling gun first invented in the late 1600's.
>>77981843
Yep!
>>77979179
The AR-15 is not a hunting rifle for big game because the bullet it fires most commonly (either the .223 or the 5.56x39) is too SMALL to legally and humanely take down big game in several states.
Oregon and other states ban it for deer hunting
>>77978024
Underrated post
>>77984619
What do they use to humanely take out moose in Canada anyway? Something in .50BMG?
>>77981948
>>77984910
This is what you are looking for
>>77984619
>safety off
>finger on the trigger
>pointing at someone
REEEEE
>>77984619
>5.56x39
you mean x45, retard
>>77977751
Ave Nex Alea
ALL HAIL THE MURDER /k/UBE
>>77984839
.45-70 will kill just about anything senpai
>>77980335
>plain interpretation
what's it like riding the judicial shortbus?
>>77985300
.454 Casull?
>>77983344
Probably RPG-7 or 40mm GMG.
>>77985925
.454 Casull would work against a moose/bear, there's even a vid of some guy killing a mouse by magdumping a glock, but imagine getting hit by one of these fuckers
>>77980536
>late term abortion 'partial birth abortion'
Those are two separate things. Late term abortions are abortions past the second trimester of pregnancy. Partial birth abortion is an abortive procedure that pulls the fetus partway out of the vagina feet first then an instrument is used to snip the spinal cord and/or crush the abdomen. Other forms of abortion are done in utero or with a chemical.
The Partial Birth Abortion technique has been outlawed in the US.
>>77981077
>People think he's joking.
>>77979048
It's a buttblasted reaction to gun control going nowhere in the Senate.
The libs are in full frothing at the mouth rabid pit bull mode.
And it's beautiful.
>>77977896
>Nevertheless, on December 17, 2012, Senator Dianne Feinstein, the author of the original AWB, announced her intention to introduce another Federal Assault Weapons Ban in Congress.
>Feinstein
EVERY TIME
>>77980687
A glock, you say.
>>77981321
one more for you...
>>77983247
>why is he so mad that i want to take away his rights?
>import guns to africa and middle east
>make things worse
>import guns to u.s.a
>le this will be different guys trust us
>>77987993
You are right.
>>77979457
>Sick of this crap. I've had enough.
>I'm not alone, either.
Maybe, but you're outnumbered. The gays were pissed when the libs threw them under the bus to protect Islam and go after guns again.
Pink Pistols membership went from 1300 to 3000 last week. That's a lot of pissed of faggots.
The FBI reports that the background check system recorded record gun sales. Concealed carry permit applications continue to climb with women and minorities as the fastest growing demographic of concealed carrier.
Kids are quietly taking up shooting sports. There are ten year old girls shooting three gun who handle a full auto rifle and 12 guage shotgun like a Marine.
You guys lost. You lost back in 1994 when you passed the first assault weapons ban and somehow turned the AR-15 from a rich man's range toy to the most popular rifle in America.
And you can't stop beating the gun control horse even though it stopped breathing years ago. Because you stay in your internet bubble where everyone tells you you are right.
Gun control is a Losing issue. It lost you the house and Senate in 1994, it likely cost Gore the presidency in 2000. And it may well cost Clinton her shot at the Oval Office.
But keep raging. I'm enjoying your butthurt.
>>77980214
still an improvement
>>77981504
The world would be a better place if half of those things had failed.
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>>77977751
You're a fucking commie.
Shall not be infringed.
Milita act of 1903.
I've never met a person who knowingly and willingly advocates to give the government more power and control and remove agency from the citizens.
>>77986354
A well placed arrow is all you need.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzRTb5WwfaA
>>77988315
>But keep raging. I'm enjoying your butthurt.
You are not alone.
>>77981399
Company thugs were often well armed. It was an attempt at disarming company hired guns.
Of course it backfired. Company goons kept their guns but the Unions were disarmed.
>>77988278
35 in switzerland
>wat
>>77988278
>same reason as canada
>not be in mainland Earth
>>77989696
>juden
>>77979473
Yes, we also do have natural responsibilities to our community as well, such as protecting our communities from the foreign hordes with our right to be armed.
>>77989696
I put "zero" in for Swiss deaths, but I was notified that we (went full cuck and) actually bombed Switzerland "accidentally" in WW2, when they "Accidentally" were selling ball bearings or whatever to Germany.
Very shameful for us to do that to based Switzerland, but there is the history.
>>77977669
this image is inaccurate
google Puckle Gun
>>77977669
You will never take my guns. In fact, I'm going to buy more of them, and you can't stop me.
Gabbie Giffords fully supports the Second Amendm...oh wait, never mind.
>>77990138
Don't forget grenades, rockets and cannons.
>>77990138
>Puckle Gun
>anti-ship boarding weapon
are you trying to say americans should be allowed to own ships as well? just fucking let everything be acquirable by fucking peasants?
>>77981504
And the world seems to be getting shittier by the day! RRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>77990507
I assume satire, sir.
But, yes. Ships. Tanks. Helicopters. Supersonic jet fighters.
American citizens can own them all.
>>77990349
>child
>>77990507
We've always been able to own that shit you fucking leaf.
It is, like most things fun, a matter of money.
>>77977669
He would just get more muskets. Alternatively, the Repeating Crossbow was a thing for centuries by the time America was initially colonized.
>>77977751
>Look at the floor of the Orlando night club, the office park in San Bernardino, the schoolhouse in Newtown CT. Look at the pictures of the bodies and the puddles of blood until you understand what assault really means.
This is someone who is really in the know, because "there are no pictures of the bodies" there is in fact , not one single picture of any dead body in any of these staged fake 'shootings'
The poster is actually signalling this, by referencing the "photos of the bodies" in his post. (when there are no photos whatsoever)
Why do people want to ban AR15s when it's soviet rival is just as capable? What's the fucking difference? Plastic? Liberals are the dumbest mother fuckers in this country. "BAN AR15Z NAOW." Okay... I'll just go buy any of the following to augment my lack of Armalite goodness:
-sks
-ak
-scar
-any fucking bullpup (expensive though)
-anything that holds just as many rifle rounds, has flash suppression, telescopic buttstock, pistol grip, and picitanny rails.
You're not going to win, libtards, unless you ban all semiauto rifles.
>>77981219
How about this: violent felons and repeat nonviolent felons get executed. That better?
>>77979457
HEY GUISE THIS IS COPYPASTA
knew it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141482609
I don't think they'll back down.
The fight for equality wasn't easy, either--but they got it done. I would not be at all surprised if the LGBT community is at the tip of the spear when it comes to this issue. I hope they get angry because when they get angry they get shit done.
This is a cause worth getting behind--and there are more and more groups of people who are saying "WTF? ENOUGH, already."
Time for the pendulum to swing back the other way.
>>77977751
>>77977669
sturmgewehr AKA "Assault rifle" A select fire rifle firing an intermediary rifle caliber cartage fed from a detachable box magazine.
Just because you need to lie about it and make things you don't like sound scarier so you can get rid of them"but not the polices actual assault rifles they need those to shoot republicans when I get my way" doesn't make you right. The guy also had a suicide vest where's the public outcry for bomb control?
The problem with your argument is you can't punish people who haven't commuted a crime for the actions of someone who did.
>>77977669
>what are volleys
Didn't read lol
Shall not be infringed. The constitution says nothing about preventing sand in your vagina
>>77977908
filty traitor, learn do love your country
>>77977669
why do leftists want a civil war so badly?
what part of, no we would rather die than submit to you fucking cucks do you not understand.
>>77977669
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>>77977908
This b8 is so big I don't even need eyes to see it.
>>77994648
>what part of "empty threats and memes" do you not understand
>>77977669
What is "The Puckle Gun" for 500
>>77977669
Shut the fuck up and get the fuck out you stupid motherfucker
SHALL
>>77977669
>Trying to have a serious discussion about gun control
>on /pol/
>>77979272
The people you posted believe in the same things you do. Just letting you know nearly all mass shootings not committed by niggers are committed by liberal white cucks just like you.
Make no mistake. You are a bad person. You will burn in Hell. You will answer to your ancestors why you betrayed the life they gave you to perpetuate evil.
>>77977751
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>>77977669
If you were alive in 1776 and opened your big stupid mouth you would have been shot with a privately owned 8 pound naval gun and your house would have been razed by a privately owned naval rocket barrage fired from a privateer vessel
But you were not alive in 1776. You are alive now and I urge you to take immediate action to correct this.
>>77982006
Agreed, this heresy will not be tolerated. Ave Nex Alea.
>>77977669
>1 post by this ID
>>77978776
"Well regulated" means well trained.
Amendment 2:
Understanding that in order to maintain the state of freedom it is important that a large portion of the population be armed and prepared for combat, no law shall be made which affects the ability of citizens to obtain, own, and possess weaponry.
>>77982820
mass murderers kill their victims all at once
serial killers kill them one at a time (like your guy in the picture)
the term "serial" refers to doing things in series
QED not a mass murderer
>>77977669
>EVERY ONE IN THE 18TH CENTURY WERE ON PROZAC TOO!
Fuck me. In the same breath the paper prints of a man going savage today.
A savage, in 2016.
>>77977669
>>77977701
>>77977751
The Red Queen and Alice will always race.
Don't vote to cripple your liberty.
>>77989278
damnit I want to see that video link me bro link me
Sage goes in all fields
Holy fuck /pol/ takes the bait again
>>77980345
Is that before or after you teleport behind him?
>>77977701
> not a gun expert
You're not even a stat expert. . Less that 3% of murders are committed with rifles, yet you're fine with handguns. Fuck off.
>>77979272
Daily Reminder that man-made global warming is a hoax, an international kike plot to tax everyone based on arbitrary gas emissions rooted in unproven hypotheses
>>77977669
>The Girardoni air rifle was in service with the Austrian army from 1780 to around 1815. The advantages of a high rate of fire (30 shots without a reload), no smoke from propellants, and low muzzle report granted it initial acceptance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_air_rifle
Not sticking around the thread, but 30 shots without reloading sounds awfully like an AR 15. It was created in 1779. So eat a dick.
>>77980041
One more time.
SHALL
Vincent Cho killed 30 something people on Virginia Tech campus with two handguns.
What now, assault rifle man?
Assault rifles will not be given up because yes, they ARE a weapon of war, and that's exactly what the framers of the 2nd Amendment had in mind. After all, they had literally just finished beating the most professional army in the world with their "well-regulated militias." (well-regulated meant well-functioning and well-operating back then, it didn't mean restrictions and laws).
>>77977669
The 2nd Amendment protected civilian ownership of canons when it was written.
