The year is 2025, personally owned cars have just been banned in America.
8,000,000 jobs associated with personal cars have been lost, from trucking, policing, taxis, to ER response and insurance jobs.
Apple, Google, Tesla, and Mercedes-Uber, are the only car owners in America. They all have huge fleets of self-driving vehicles across America.
There have been no accidents for 3 weeks, and the average person saves about 20% of income they used to spend on vehicles. Every vehicle is an Electric vehicle.
All parking lots have been re purposed, homes no longer have garages or driveways. Crime is down 70% because of how locked down transport is along with the surveillance network afforded by the vehicles. Economic growth across the world is booming and mass unemployment is common.
Why don't you want this future? "I like driving" - retard
I do. Sleeping in a car while it drive your wife's son to basketball practise = amazing
>car that drives itself to pick up my wifes son
sold
>>77869689
Your future scenario seems incredibly implausible. What is the purpose of banning car ownership and making all auto transport in the country essentially taxi-based? Much more plausible would be to ban manual driven cars but keep them privately owned.
I'm sure that while the fleet model will be more popular, individuals will still be able to own autonomous vehicles if they want. Also, the idea that homeowners will all build over their driveways overnight is kinda silly. If I had the money to put an extension over my driveway, I'd use it to take a vacation overseas instead.
>>77869689
I want to tear up people's front lawns with my car in the early hours of the morning.
Give me half a chance and I will ruin your lawn too OP.
Fuck you.
Wow now even my wife's son can drive himself to his biological father's home.
>>77869689
why do you think the Federal Government spent the past 15 years gearing up to track, monitor, detain and kill domestic terrorists?
>>77869689
>The year is 2025
you are a moron to think all that can happen in nine years
>>77869689
2025 will look exactly like today in the auto world.
Also, self driving cars exist as Tesla's and probably soon enough the typical hybrid hatchback. They look nothing like that expensive junk you posted.
> Personal cars banned
Never going yo to happen. You act like everyone already sold their car to use Uber.
Visiting some place in 2025, the greentext example.
>pull out smartphone, use Apple app to call a nearby smart car
>network of cars chooses closest available car
>pay $5, get bio metrically scanned when entering vehicle. Camera watches what I do while inside.
>am transported by the electric vehicle in total comfort, no risk of crash or slow down due to traffic errors
>arrive at location's front door, get out, car goes away
No more parking, no more traffic problems, much cheaper than owning own car.
The vehicle's cameras and radar also act as surveillance for the local police.
>>77869689
I don't see how a car is going to make an arrest or as a subtitute for ER responders.
>>77869689
WHY DONT YOU WANT MY BLAND DYSTOPIAN FUTURE WHERE YOU HAVE NO CHOICE, /POL/, YOU MUST ALL BE STUPID BECAUSE YOU STILL LIKE TO HAVE CONTROL OVER YOUR OWN LIVES!!!!!
Good. No longer do we have to tolerate the extortion from insurance companies.
>>77869689
You're a fucking retard if you think this is what it'll be like in 2025, try 2035 or 2040.
>>77869689
and then if the government wants to get rid of subversives just wait until they take their next ride then lock them in and take them to a secret prison.
>>77870236
Let us know how taking your horse onto the road works for you.
You can take my keys from my cold dead hands.
>>77869992
wasted materials and investments
forcing ride share creates more efficient allocation of resources
>>77870171
Traffic cops will be over, that's for sure.
>you were doing 62 in a 60 zone, show license and registration pls :^)
>your left rear headlight looked a little dim, hope you got $300 bux :^)
>you can only park here on second alternate thursdays, my friend :^)
>W-WHAT DO YOU MEAN I'M NOT NEEDED ANYMORE???~!
>>77870153
>not having the $20/mo unlimited use subscription
>>77870046
You crazy Aussie cunt, I love you.
Will you be drunk as shit, too?
>>77869902
only good post in this thread so far
>>77869689
self-driving cars could make a 1.5 hour commute manageable
you could sleep, watch a movie or play vidya or surf the internet while driving with ease.
also long range road trips during the night
and if you lived in a metropolitan area you wouldn't need a car you would just order one and it would home in on your smartphone
>>77870171
traffic policing is a huge chunk of police and ER duties.
>>77870470
>left rear headlight
>>77870541
Hell, you could even do a little more work off the clock for the boss!
>>77870541
The clearing of traffic congestion alone
The economic effects of such a system make it almost imperative to implement.
Imagine if China institutes this, they would have a huge economic advantage. Hell, if europe does it and America doesn't they will have such an economic advantage.
>>77869689
It's new so /pol/ doesn't like it
#AmishLife
>>77870153
That car looks so nice. Almost like it has a 50s feel.
>>77870541
This. Hell, you could fucking work on your commute.
There is a plot afoot by the major automakers to make it next to impossible to do any significant maintenance on your veh yourself or using a mechanic of your choosing. The electronics under the hood are considered proprietary tech, the effect of which is you have to go through your dealer for maintenance and no one else. The practical effect is that you don't ENTIRELY own your car.
>>77869689
So what happens with cars people own that are not self-driving? Surrender them? Special license to drive only on govt approved holidays? Only drive at race tracks (like wealthy antique owners)?
I don't think I will like your future.
>>77869689
>There have been no accidents for 3 weeks
best concept car of all time
>>77870236
>HORSE? WHY WOULD YOU NEED A HORSE YOU CAN WALK
>HORSE AND BUGGY? WHY WOULD YOU NEED A HORSE AND BUGGY YOU CAN RIDE A HORSE
>AUTOMOBILE? WHY WOULD YOU NEED AN AUTOMOBILE YOU HAVE A HORSE AND BUGGY
>SELF-DRIVING CAR? WHY WOULD YOU NEED A SELF-DRIVING CAR YOU HAVE AN AUTOMOBILE
I fucking hate Luddites.
>>77870619
>making fun of my donuts is a hate crime :^)
>>77870876
You can still drive them but if you get into an accident it'll get taken away and you'll have to buy a self-driving one :^)
>>77869689
It depends on if you think that a care is a utilitarian device for simple transportation or a possession you value for reasons beyond getting from point a to b.
Its easy to fetishize some of these things. Look at all the non-hunter, non-shooters that still want firearms.
>>77870871
>wanting to own a car
rideshare with self-driving cars is better
Car breaks down, get out, call a different car, literally not have to even give a shit about it.
it's superior.
Plus the car can be optimized for use. For instance a single person going to the store? Get a car with 1 seat and lots of trunk space. Transporting 5 kids? Order the van model
etc.
What kind of man does not enjoy driving, I get long distances can get arduous, but still driving is a pleasurable activity.
>>77870876
Gov does huge buyback
not allowed on roads
>>77870541
>tfw get carsick if I so much as read or play games on my phone
>>77870935
>rear headlight
>>77871087
>What kind of man does not enjoy driving
A sane one. Unless you live in the country, driving sucks.
>>77871087
Rides are more enjoyable from the passenger side, where you can admire the scenery without being dangerously distracted by it.
>>77871087
I don't enjoy driving. Stop lights, stop signs, lanes, etc
It's stupid and trivial. On a track? sure, on a nice curvy scenic road? sure, to and from places in a city? fuck no.
>>77871227
Well I understand your instance since the Chinese tend to be rather awful drivers.
>>77871329
The worst part of driving is the other drivers.
turn your keys in faggots.
too dangerous
>>77871348
You don't know the half of it.
>>77869689
>Americans would allow people to ban driving
No self respecting man would ever allow such a thing.
>2025
Lel. You'll be lucky if there are even consumer versions available by 2025.
Then add on another 10 years to perfect them and bring the price down to levels competitive with normal cars.
Then another 10 years for people to become accustomed to the idea
Then IF the country collectively decides they don't want human-driven cars anymore and no one buys them anymore, another 20 years for the backlog of human-driven cars to work their way through the used car marketplace and be replaced by self-driven so the regular plebs who shop for $5k junkers when they need "new" cars have access to them.
THEN you can BEGIN thinking about outlawing human-driven cars.
*rereads OP*
Oh, you mean outlawing private ownership of cars? Sorry, for a moment there I thought you weren't an absolute retard with no concept of American/human/animal behavior.
>>77871566
Elon will make it come true
>shitpost on /pol/ while riding self-driving car
>car doors automatically lock
>drives you to tolerance reeducation center all by itself
Thanks but no thanks.
>>77871663
This is true
Teens think 10 years is a massive amount of time
>>77869689
the only thing that bothers me is not cars ...but trucks.
>think about it
>>77871663
It will work differently than you imagine.
There will be incredible pressures on it.
One of the immediate ones will be cheap available smart-taxi services through apple, uber, etc.
>>77871716
>Musk
>Got rich being a middleman for people who wanted to sell beanie babies on Ebay and built up a cult of personality by throwing money at flashy projects and going on TV spouting implausible plans to do cool things decades from now.
>>77871566
>2025
>8 years of a Hillary presidency and fourth wave feminism has utterly cucked the nation's lawmakers as athe unrelenting death grip of PC retains its hold
I wouldn't be too shocked if we cucked ourselves, just like we did after 9/11.
>>77871087
It's fucking boring. Thank god we have smartphones now so I can surf the Web while driving. It's still a chore when I have to occasionally look up though.
Actually just thank god in general for smart phones, it's made everything that was boring so much more manageable. Family dinners, movie night with your girl who insists on watching a Ryan Gosling movie, sitting at your desk at work...
>>77871897
like landing a re-usable rocket?
Making an EV that is still sold out?
>>77871843
A self-driving truck would probably be safer than some drugged out trucker who hasn't slept in months and is currently getting a coffee IV while pissing in a bottle
>>77869689
From my cold dead hands!
>>77871987
Too bad he's yet to make a profit on either of those ventures though...
>>77869689
Then the hospital complex loses billions over a lack of car accident and insurance premiums skyrocket to compensate for the loss of business
>>77872016
im thinking more of the mass unemployment side of it
>>77869689
This won't happen. Americans will give up cars as easily as we've given up guns. They may eventually (not 2025) be electric, but driving will never be outlawed in the lifetimes of your children's children's children.
>>77869689
people can lose accountability, so adoption is probably rapid af.
liberals would be ultra-behind ti because they can feel impactual by screaming.
>ban assault cars!
>>77872094
Accidents*
>Christ is perfect, I'm not
>>77872103
Who cares? Good, we need to start automating all these trained monkey jobs. Luddism is a cancer. You all should go out and start digging a grave in your yard with spoons and all your friends.
>>77871716
Though I love Musk's patriotism and progress with aerospace technologies I hate his opinion on cars.
>>77872048
except no investor wants him to make profit yet
do you even understand business?
>>77872116
it'll happen faster than you can imagine.
think of it this way
every store you think of and all public places remove their parking lots.
>>77872160
>ban assault cars!
When gun collectors used the car crash death statistics as an argument against banning guns, do you think they foresaw this possibility?
>>77869689
>to kill the child in the road, or to kill the occupants of the car. This is the type of moral hazard we are leaving to the technopaths to navigate.
Are you lazy faggots so far gone that you can't be asked to drive a fucking car???
What is so fucking hard about driving a car??? Why is this even a thing?
This isn't even taking into account the millions of jobs which will disappear. Why cuck yourselves like this?
>>77872312
guns don't require or use public and private infrastructure
Walmart can't remove your gun by removing something at their property.
>>77872103
It's not like we're keeping our other jobs, are we? Though I wonder what happens after industries become fully automated.
>>77872308
>every store you think of and all public places remove their parking lots
Then where would the self-driving cars park, dummy?
>>77872300
just think of all those angry truck drivers suddenly without work
>>77869689
There is a place you can go where everything is provided for you. You get a roof over your head, 3 meals a day, work and leisure time after it. That place is prison.
The only thing missing, is freedom.
>>77872160
>ban assault cars!
Chekov was just killed by a rogue Jeep. You never know when your vehicle will go Maximum Overdrive. It's like pitbulls. Cuddly one day, baby face eater the next.
>>77871878
Throwing "Smart" in front of an idea doesn't magically make it a success, and putting Apple in charge of something doesn't override basic laws of economics and human nature.
>>77871987
Hauling shit into orbit is grunt work. None of the "cool" space projects are ever going to be profitable and will never be successfully privatized. Just like how 95% of scientific research that isn't directly relevant to oil or pharmeceuticals or some other insanely profitable industry must be government funded.
SpaceX is basically the FedEx of space, and all Musk does is throw money at engineers and negotiate juicy government contracts.
So heres my idea: Make all cars self driving with a manual driving option. If a person gets into an accident when they are self driving they not only get they privelage taken away they are also forced to pay all of the damages for the accident. This will allow safe responsible drivers to keep driving and force bad drivers to let the cars drive. I see 0 problems with this.
I'd love to see an electric powered semi.
Goes 1km, runs out of power.
>>77872239
>business
>no profits
Remember me?
>>77872384
>Are you lazy faggots so far gone that you can't be asked to drive a fucking car???
Yes. Nobody likes driving. Traffic is shit. Commutes are shit. Humans are too stupid to drive without getting into accidents all the time.
Fuck driving.
>>77872470
they don't thats the point
When everyone removes their parking spaces, the "self drivers" are fucked.
That's only one of many ways they can be removed.
>>77872488
That's a stupid argument, anon. If the food was good, the life was comfortable and you could do fun activities during leisure time everyone would go to prison.
>>77869689
You are asked what 2 + 2
You know the answer, but you are afraid to say it.
>>77872488
What freedom do you lose? You still go where you tell it, just instead of using a wheel you tell it with an app.
>>77872308
>Walmart unilaterally decides to remove all its parking lots and make it impossible for 99.9% of its customers to shop there to benefit GM and other self-driving car manufacturers.
What the actual fuck are you smoking right now?
>>77869689
I just can't let it go; 2025 is only nine years, not 900. The only thing that'll happen in nine years is lament over whatever president we elected the year before.
I'll just ride my motorcycle :^)
>>77872470
Back at the fleet storage. Shopping centers would have an intake point like airports have, where vehicles don't stay longer than it takes to do pick-ups and drop-offs.
>>77871566
too bad females would love it, and they spend more money and outnumber us
probably not in 2025 but in our lifetime
>>77872384
>Are you lazy faggots so far gone that you can't be asked to drive a fucking car
For me its mostly about safety. There are way too many car accidents and no matter how good of a driver you are, someone else can come along and completely destroy your car are kill you in less than a second. I dont trust other people enough to drive well and the fact there are so many car accidents proves most people are not responsible enough to drive.
>>77872612
no, you moron, where do the robot cars park? It's not like they suddenly stop needing to park when you hand control of them over to the robots.
>>77872713
>You know the answer, but you are afraid to say it.
I'm not afraid to say anything. What is happening is transhumanism.
>>77872806
This. Fuck other people, now let's all have robots drive our lazy asses to work.
>>77872741
Walmart becomes "green" by removing parking spaces and replacing the nasty asphalt with a green park.
Whole foods did it earlier and women shopped their 20% more after the change.
>BOTNET
>>77872852
they go somewhere else? designated parking street?
>>77872766
You can, but if you crash into my self-driving car while I'm shitposting on /pol/ and drinking an espresso I'll sue your ass and make sure it's taken away.
>>77870916
>>77870153
>>77869689
Is their plan to make them so ugly that nobody wants to step in them due to embarrassment?
Never getting in one of these cuck-mobile slave death machines. People are going to have a lot of fun hacking your car and sending you off a cliff or into a tree while you sleep or jerk it.
Keep plugging yourselves into the matrix, see where that gets you in the end. Humans and technology is like putting an alcoholic in a barrel of wine. None of this will end well for you.
>>77870541
Commute times could be slashed if all the cars are going 150 mph on the motorway. If all the cars are driven by computers and all communicating, why would there need to be speed limits?
>>77872852
They go pick up someone else or idle at a location waiting for the next pick up
they don't have to park in a walmart, they pick someone up and drive off.
Walmart all the sudden frees up a huge amount of space that used to be for parking.
>>77872981
I swear to fuck they said the same thing about cars. Waaah, metal death boxes, waaah what about muh nature, waaah God made horses for a reason etc. etc.
>>77872981
>Humans and technology is like putting an alcoholic in a barrel of wine.
Yeah fuck all that agriculture and medicine what a bunch of cucks
>>77873091
Luddites will always be retarded because if you take technology away from us we're basically no better than animals. Might as well just bang rocks together and shit in a cave.
>>77872981
you won't have a choice
:^)
embrace degeneracy
>2025
>leaving the house
>>77872016
Except for the fact that current self driving truck prototypes can't handle such exciting things as rain, snow, crosswinds, heavy dust, passing a car, or having a car get close to it.
In fact a lot of self driving cars either become rather spooky on even light snow or they have to rely on static maps and look for road signs to stay on the road. Meaning if you need to go down the interstate or local highways outside of a city in adverse weather conditions you have to hope to god your car doesn't follow a damaged road sign or a tire track into the ditch.
>>77869689
>The year is 2025, personally owned cars have just been banned in America.
you fucked up fast, self driving cars will still be privately owned
>>77873182
is this now a cute lesbian thread?
>>77872721
>welcome to robocar, where would you like to go?
>There appears to be a protest against the government at that destination, request declined, your information has been sent to the local authorities
>it appears that destination is in another state, however HB-201 mandates all interstate travel must have proper clearance, please insert your interstate travel liscence.
>that destination is in another country, and therefore invalid without class-9 clearance
>it appears you wish to go to the airport, please insert travel licsence.
>too many invalid requests, the authorities have been alerted and will arrive shortly for questioning
>>77873174
>bang rocks together
Rocks are degeneracy, whatever happened to banging your fists together like our ancestors did?
>>77873225
yes
>>77872948
Whole Foods doesn't have parking lots anymore? Sure.
Anyway, whole foods sells an image to retarded hipsters who consider which corporate grocery megachain they shop at to be an expression of their unique snowflake-ness. Walmart just sells cheap crap to whoever doesn't consider themselves too good to shop there.
If walmart survived based on a socially conscious brand image, they'd have been bankrupt decades ago.
>>77873254
fascism aint so bad if it is more efficient.
I can trust the AI, I can't trust humans.
>>77873254
>car wont let me go where i want OMG I HAVE NO OTHER MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION
>BIKES DONT EXIST OH NOES
>>77873209
Tech's definitely not quite there yet, I agree.
>>77869803
>your wife's son
Americucks at their finest
>>77873420
say no more senpai
>>77870467
Restricting freedoms and treating the masses like insects would surely increase efficiency until an rpg slams into your face.
Civ 6 is out soon anyway
>>77873465
It is though
>>77873224
This. At least they will once commercialization catches on and companies realize they can make more money by selling vehicles just like they did was regular manually-driven cars.
>>77873504
You can't have a nuke even if you really want one for fun.
Why allow mass waste of resources when it's a simple fix?
>>77873068
>all the luddites said regular cars were giant deathboxes too
>now get out there and buy a self-driving car, those regular ones are dangerous as hell!
>>77870153
> but muh economy
>muh debt slaves
> muh lost citations revenue
It won't be cheaper. Think about all the money the banks make from car loans and police make for DUI and traffic tickets. They aren't just going to give that power up for the sake of mankind. They'll figure out some other way to Jew you out of your monies.
>>77873474
here instead of me dumping il just let u faggots enjoy while i go hula hoop
http://imgur.com/a/colDs
>>77873474
Post more please
>>77872852
Remember, in autonomous car guy's fantasy all cars in all towns (even towns that don't even have taxi service or have poor roads) will be replaced by this endlessly moving swarm of automated cars that will somehow be moving nearly 95% of the time and somehow not wear out all of their moving components like their brakes and suspension in short order.
His claim could easily be replaced with an idea that everyone will have the Tron lightcycle baton in their pocket and only retards would drive a vehicle not made of hard-light.
>>77873428
This.
What happens when I want to haul a boat down to the lake?
Will self-driving cars be able to back up a trailer? Will they even have enough horsepower to haul a loaded trailer?
>>77873068
All software has bugs. If you say all software operates at 100% all the time you would be delusional.
I'm not saying all technology is bad but we shouldn't do something just for the sake of doing it. These cars don't really solve any actual problems. It is only going to make more.
>>77872697
It is in sweden, why dont we all just go there and commit crime?
Nothing in life means squat without freedom. Owning and driving your own car is the most self-dependant form of travel, and is essential to provide people with freedom of movement. If you cannot see why self driven vehicles owned by major companies with no private car ownership is not a massive leap in the government's ability to watch and control everybody, you are fucking delusional.
>>77873607
Thanks post
>>77873607
You're too good to us.
>>77873599
Nah, the bigger jews will win out over them.
>>77873596
The point I'm making is technology has been improving our lives for thousands of years, and that self-driving cars seem like the next evolution in personal transportation.
>>77873428
Walmart would use the space for larger pharmacies, dining, a childcare/distraction area and/or a lot more displays. A shopping mall I like replaced their parking lot with a bunch of restaurants.
>>77873517
Yup. We already have self-driving cars, and they do not crash.
>>77873721
I mean, they should eventually be as powerful as regular cars. The only difference is replacing the human driver with a computer.
>>77873006
>Commute times could be slashed if all the cars are going 150 mph on the motorway. If all the cars are driven by computers and all communicating, why would there need to be speed limits?
Because one asshole on an overpass with a shard of metal could cause the next 9/11.
Reaction time is a small fraction of the time it takes to respond to an emergency situation, and wireless ad-hoc networks between hundreds of cars are going to be laughably unreliable, especially in bad weather.
At best a computer-driven car might be able to use the "1.5 second rule" instead of the two second rule.
>>77873724
>If you say all software operates at 100% all the time you would be delusional
I'd still argue they're less glitchy than humans.
>>77869689
Only if I can hack into the database they're mapping on and crash them all.
>>77873438
Biking long distances is impractical when said travel needs to be done quickly, say if you are resisting a tyrannical government.
>>77869689
>why don't you want this future
Absolute government control of transportation.
>>77873721
its not green, you will not be allowed to.
environmentalism and all.
global warming is real
>>77873954
they won
libertarianism is a joke
conservatism is a joke
you all fucking lost, freedom is dead, fuck off and at least embrace the technological future.
>>77873721
Just call your autonomous boat and it'll hitch itself for you!
Hitching and hauling are why I don't believe private autonomous vehicles will be banned. It's understood that lots of people will have needs that can't be addressed by a fleet.
>>77869689
>9 years from now
>implying technology will become that reliable that fast
>implying people will be able to afford them when there's still people driving around 30 year old clunkers who regularly buy used
>implying public transit will be able to afford them
>implying everyone even owns a goddamn car for your 20% statistic
>implying tesla lol
>implying uber lol
>>77873940
>long distances
train boat plane. Problem solved
>>77873006
Not freeway, but in pedestrian areas the cars would still need to be going slow enough to brake in time without fucking up the car
>>77873731
>requires license
>registration
>insurance
>costs avg Americunt $8k per year
Yeah mate, tons of freedom there. Every time Johhny Law gets a hankerin he can pull you over at will (always with sum bus excuse) and extort money out of you. Money you must pay or go to prison. Sounds like Freedom! And all so you can drive your fat lazy ass 3 miles to the burger stand instead of getting sum exercise u fat fuck.
>>77873196
This is the best post in this thread.
>>77873786
Why that instead of investing in highly-improved public transportation infrastructure?
A fleets of self-driving cars has no advantage economically over the status quo - except you'd be paying for your transportation daily or by subscription instead of all at once - would be environmentally disastrous since all the old cars would be scrapped and the total miles driven would double, and would dramatically reduce the freedom of the average person to go wherever they want whenever they want.
>>77869689
>Trusting your life to a computer.
>Assuming computers don't make hundreds more errors than a human.
>So we become slaves to the machine in the long run? Someone has to service all those cars.
>>77874372
Checked the flag, disregarded the post.
>>77873912
Humans can handle new input on the fly though. We don't have to be programmed for every single task. There is a big difference.
>>77874372
Never mind Johnny Law, will self-driving cars all you need is two assholes to stand in front of and behind it and it will be permanently immobilized until you hand over the money they're demanding to get out of your way.
>>77874706
The AI driving will only improve every day.
>>77869689
>>77870153
>>77870916
cars of the "future" look awful. It really takes some retarded hipster to like this shit
>>77870619
It could happen. I'm sure someone out there has somehow managed to stick taillights up front and headlights in the back for whatever reason.
>>77871074
How does it handle off-roading?
>>77872525
You can drive your car but the computer can instantly disable the wheel and take over to avoid wrecks. We already have collison detection and avoidance plus self parking cars.
>>77874548
>Trusting your life to a computer
>Trusting your life to a human being.
One isn't fundamentally better than the other (yet) but I'd like to think that the 2 tonne hunk of steel that is coming around a sharp turn within 10ft of me in the opposite direction isn't being piloted by some one who's just been drinking. Also think of all that free time you have to practice whatever skill is your thing.
>>77874531
>Why that instead of investing in highly-improved public transportation infrastructure?
Because autonomous fleets have nearly the entire auto industry and a huge chunk of the computer industry throwing their own money into it, whereas public transportation is subject to public vote and budget cuts. Even the best bus and train systems can't handle the complete range of people's transportation needs. And, finally, self-driving cars CAN be public. Governments could invest in their own fleets if it looked like a sound choice.
>>77874706
this is why you allow for instances of human over ride.
>car that automatically picks out bulls and young bucks for my wife and drives them to my house
i'll take 5
>>77875007
i thought there were only sheep there, Mr Bond
>>77875062
john key is opening borders
>>77870619
>2016
>not having a rear headlight
It's like you've never even changed your blinker fluid, much less your headlight oil.
>>77874987
So basically it will happen because the megacorporations who stand to profit the most and who own the government have decreed that it will happen.
The future is truly inspiring.
>>77869992
Insurance prices skyrocket when self driving cars never crash but people do forcing them to switch over.
>>77873954
I'd prefer if the government didn't have shit to do with this but we all know they will. Still, there might not even be an America in 10 years depending on how things go down so who knows?
>>77874548
>Trusting your life to a computer
You do that already, moron. We all do. It's called nuclear defense systems.
>>77874765
>thinks there is real AI now
wew
We are so far away from actual real AI. The "AI" we have no is just pattern recognition. Like the Amazon echo thing, you can say a bunch of jibberish with the word weather in the middle and it will just give you the weather. It operates on key words and phrases.
All this "AI" crap is marketing. PR to get you to buy shit that doesn't work as it is advertised.
Moore's law is over, they can't make the stuff any cheaper now so they are trying to make stuff consume less power now. Another significant breakthrough has to be made before AI can be made real in the same sense that everyone thinks about it in.
>>77870153
>Google cars are perfect and have absolutely no risk of crashing
ebin
>>77875170
DUIs would become non existent. i've lost family to it
not that i feel that self driving cars are the best option. but less people dying will likely be their mantra for it
Only autists want self driving cars.
>>77874957
>isn't being piloted by some one who's just been drinking
Or texting.
>>77875170
That's one way to put it. Another way to put it would be that voters didn't want the money for trains they wouldn't use to come out of their own pockets.
>>77875236
This.
>>77873802
Mall in my town did the same thing. They threw up 4 big resturants since the parking lot is always half empty. Now there's no parking and all the women bitch while going there and eating at the resturants.
>>77871970
You don't have a radio that can play movies?
>>77870461
>Shall not be infringed!!!
>>77875170
I'm kind of involved in the robotics arena.
This time last year Bosch and Toyota sent out requests-for-resumes for new engineers to help found their self driving car departments.
So two of the megacorp fleets will be Bosch and Toyota.
>>77875236
An insurance company isn't going to manipulate its prices for the sake of technological progress.
>>77875599
It will when everyone stops needing car insurance because the self-driving cars don't crash.
>>77875585
everyone is
uber is
apple is
etc
Feel like the oil glut now has set back electric cars at least 10 years, Saudis know what's up
>>77875599
they'll just change car insurance to 'what if a meteor hits your self driving car' and make it so current health insurance doesn't cover it.
easy 50 bucks a month from everyone. possibly required to use public cars. never have to pay off on it
>>77875397
you mean
/o/tists
i hate driving, so i can't wait for self-driving cars
gonna suck for all those career truck drivers though
>>77875397
have you ever met a woman who likes to drive? their desire for it alone would be enough
>>77875847
There's another reason to switch to self-driving. Kick the sandniggers in the ass.
ITT: People who spend all day on the computer and know full well the consequences it can bring are willing to put their lives in the hands of one
>>77876177
#twitchcommutes
>>77876177
I'd sooner put my life in the hands of a computer than a woman.
>>77869689
sounds like a communist paradise.
why do you hate freedom? why do you hate your own freedom?
such a goy....
>>77870928
fuck off you cucknadian
>>77869689
>Why don't you want this future? "I like driving" - retard
It's now 2030. The Great War of Globalist Aggression has begun. Your thinkpad snaps on and instantly tunes in to msnbc. "Presqueen Hillary has announced that ballistic missiles are en route, and that it is your duty as a good citizen of the global village to stay up and stay safe. Ducking and covering is mandatory for all citizens, failure to comply will result in extermination."
You look at your family, you look to the sky. You know you are a target zone, and you damn well know ducking and covering isnt going to work. The roads are clear. It would be easy to escape. But you can't. Because you gave up your right to travel. Don't call it a grave, it's the future you chose.
/o/ here fuck you and the mere notion of self driving cars.
>>77876432
Fool
>>77876296
Good example
>>77870153
1984: The Post
Nigga, what kind of Orwellian nightmare do you wish for...
>Cameras watching your every move
>Glorious State Sec will have records of all your activities
>Outside and inside cameras serve as permanent telescreens
Just rename DHS the Ministry of love
>>77869689
Can't wait to have the awesome wave of cyber attacks when these babies pick up traction
>>77876955
safety and human freedom are opposed.
>>77869689
>Crime is down 70% because of how locked down transport is along with the surveillance network afforded by the vehicles
I doubt that. Niggers destroy everything they touch. But if they have been eradicate, then this 70% is very plausible, possibly 90%
>>77877038
If you choose safety over freedom, you have a slave mentality and only deserve to be shot in the back of the head
>>>/o/
The self driving is just a meme gimmick.
Move along.
>>77877038
>safety and human freedom are opposed.
>this is what slaves actually believe
>>77877247
Don't know about that
I kind of like stop signs and stop lights for safety reasons.
>>77876938
/o/'s butthurt at the prospect of self-driving cars makes me hard
>>77875350
the ai wouldnt need to be as smart as a person. more like a bug that drives.
>>77877363
You fucking nigger, there is a difference, as hard as it might be for you to grasp it, between a set of basic rules, and having 24/7 Big Brother Surveillance...
>>77877634
hey now. this is /pol/. there is no fence to sit on, only a canyon
>>77877473
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Now go do something productive like prepping the bull, leaf.
>>77875350
driving isn't really general intelligence.
>>77876938
>literally a flying lexus
lmfao
>>77877701
>>77877745
See what I mean? Mention the idea of their silly little hobby becoming as antiquated as stamp collecting and they go into a frenzy.
Sorry cuckos, but the free market called and said you're out of a job.
>>77876691
Wait, so /pol/ now supports freedom of movement to better places?
>>77869689
fuck this shit
>>77877834
>le switching my argument to free market will scare off these goym
Yeah, the free market will fix the problem when some angry fuckwit from /r9k/ starts hacking into women's cars and driving them off cliffs.
>>77869689
Will it be illegal to walk to work?
>>77877834
Why are you so adamant on this self driving meme?
Did you fail your driving test or something? Fucking loser.
>>77877834
>the free market called and said you're out of a job
Old /pol/ would have been so happy about autonomous vehicles. It's the ultimate example of capitalism at its best: private companies driven by vision, using money they earned to fund technology that will change the world for the better without begging off of the public.
What happened, guys?
>>77878063
>when some angry fuckwit from /r9k/ starts hacking into women's cars and driving them off cliffs.
REEEEEEEEEE we wouldn't do that, we would force CHADS like you to drive off cliffs.
Fucking normie.
I commute by bus to work and school, everything is close to me, 10 min walk to the store, and I dont have a driving license. What am I missing out on guys? Is it that bad I dont drive?
>>77878063
>when some angry fuckwit from /r9k/ starts hacking into women's cars and driving them off cliffs
>implying this is a bad thing
Self-driving cars AND less women on the road?
>>77878102
Because driving sucks. It takes a shitload of time out of your day, it costs a fortune, and some retard with a smartphone could end your life at any time.
>muh cars
They'll take my cars away when they pull my cold dead fingers off the steering wheel
>>77878120
They realized the government would use it to surveillance the fuck out of you and try and regulate this shit as much as possible like they do with everything.
Free enterprise is a meme so long as there's state interests.
>>77878156
I refuse to drive a car with anything more than the most basic computer systems. I'm saving up for a BMW 2800cs. No computers. No worries. Man, metal, and tarmac.
>>77878336
Then they'd just hack other people's cars to drive you off the road. The robots will always win.
>>77878336
Bad Goy, don't you understand that you won't be safe unless there is permanent state surveillance and tracking on your personnel vehicle?
>>77869689
Stupid retard it causes unemployment
>>77873065
So these cars would not be capable of doing a multi-stop errand run? Or really any kind of activity where you wouldn't want to carry everything you have along with you whenever you get out of the car.
Of course you NEET autistic faggots like self-driving cars. Us real, red-blooded Americans like working and driving cars. Most of you losers couldn't even change your own oil
>>77878336
>BMW 2800cs
Parts will be hard to find and expensive and that car is ugly as fuck.
Welp are you a robot too?
>>77878182
I bet you've never kissed a girl, either
>>77878063
Sure
>>77878503
you expect a public car to wait 30 minutes for you to go grocery shopping? you call for one on your way out. or pick one up that just dropped someone else off
>>77878462
Not gonna lie, I really don't care if your job is phased out by self-driving vehicles. So long as the factories that make them are close to home.
>>77878635
The robots will make your job obsolete next, leaf
>>77878705
Who will fix those robots?
>>77878705
Soon all jobs will be automated so who cares?
>>77878768
Other robots.
>>77878635
>Not like Trudeau, the cuck is going to ship them over to the third world or anything
>>77878778
Basic income when? I don't want to work, I just want to be a sponger.
>>77869689
This will happen, except all those things won't be fully implemented until near 2050. It's going to take a long time for self-driving tech to be implemented completely. There will probably be luxury models the rich still own, and they'll be allowed to drive as long as the car switches into a safe mode and takes control before accidents happen.
>>77878216
>Because driving sucks. It takes a shitload of time out of your day, it costs a fortune, and some retard with a smartphone could end your life at any time.
I enjoy driving. I have the money to sustain my vehicle and it doesn't take a shitload of time of my day because my workplace isn't 300 miles away from my house.
>some retard with a smartphone could end your life
I drive a S400 and I drive a fucking tank of a car. If some idiot does that then free money for me.
You're a hopeless loser.
>>77872103
Last-mile trucking and a decent amount of distribution center drivers would still be around. If you're at a distribution center where a truck has to be moved around constantly it would likely be more efficient with a driver than having to program a computer to move the truck a foot one direction or the other. Also someone will always need to be around to tell the computers where to put the trucks and the destination each truck has to go to. Sauce: Close friend of mine owns a major trucking company.
>>77878978
Well congratulations, you're in the minority.
>>77878919
Nobody wants to work, especially if there's no reason to.
>>77878978
>my workplace isn't 300 miles away from my house
Too bad both of those places are in Singapore.
>>77879123
Save yourself from embarrassment, kid. You've already baited everyone itt.
>>77879222
Your point being?
>>77879353
I'm serious. Most people, if given the decision, wouldn't drive. It's not enjoyable. I don't care if you enjoy it, most people don't.
>>77878611
You seem to have missed my point. Go grocery shopping. Now you have forty pounds of groceries in the car. Go to the hardware store. The car drives off with your groceries to go pick up someone else.
>>77879505
>most people don't
Ask me why I don't believe your bullshit claims.
>>77879505
I'd say 99% of people hate daily driving.
Drive fags are rare, and almost exclusively male. The vast majority of population would be happy for autonomous
>>77879706
then you go home first. are you buying nothing that needs to be refrigerated? all them doritos and mountain dew?
grocery shopping is always the last errand because of that
>>77869689
Dumb cars will definitely dissapear from use but i guarantee you a minority car culture that cherishes driver cars will start, what faggot would think having a car that drives itself is fun to use?
>>77879744
Why don't you believe his bullshit claims? You already established that you enjoy driving because of a very specific set of circumstances not shared by most people.
>>77869689
This is some fucking fantasy-land shit right here.
Mechanical failure will lead to accidents, no matter how good the car is at maneuvering.
Socialists like you will burn in the fires of your own creation. Your lies will be exposed, and your stupidity will be on full display.
a big step in the progress of cucking
people NEED vehicles they can manually drive and run on gas
guns don't mean shit when you can't get anywhere (the jews control where your car goes)
>>77880055
>not shared by most people
Any proofs or polls to back up your claims?
>>77870541
Self-driving cars will never be a "jerk off and sleep on the way to work"-mobile. Chances are, someone will need to be behind the wheel still, just in case.
>>77869689
Cute ideal, but would never happen.
>Humanity is getting lazier with each passing year
It won't be long until we all lay in hospital type beds with IV drips and computers connected to our brains. What a horrible way to live that would be.
>>77879859
>not having insulated grocery bags in your trunk
Oh wait, you couldn't have things like that in your car if you don't actually keep the same car from stop to stop.
I live ten miles from the nearest grocery and hardware stores. Why should I insert an extra half-hour between each stop? I do most of my shopping on my way home after work. How is being forced to unload a car and carry everything with you at every stop better than being able to leave things in the car in a parking lot?
>>77870871
>Not owning an older car that YOU like
>Buying any modern car
>
>>77880568
go to the hardware store first?
>>77880524
Hybrids are going to be common at first, but eventually everyone will switch over to the fully automated autos. It's just so nice being able to do literally anything while being transported at high speed.
>Can get off (bring along someone of the opposite gender for added fun!)
>Can read
>Can play vidya
>Can watch videos
>Can sleep
>All while on my way to work 100 miles away from where I live, but with only a 45 minute commute.
>>77869689
>>77869803
>trusting your wife's son's life in the hands of a robot
>speak against the jews
>google steers your car into a ravine at 100 miles per hour
>>77880451
No, I don't care enough to find hard numbers for you.
In the United States (and I guess Canada as well, though the maplefriend in this thread can speak for himself), the most populated areas are cities and their suburbs that are deeply unpleasant places to drive. Traffic is a nightmare and the scenery isn't worthwhile. Those places will adopt autonomous driving readily. I don't need you to believe me, though, it's not my problem if your country wants to live in the past.
>>77881252
China is 100% on board.
Once it's possible.
>>77881252
>the most populated areas are cities and their suburbs that are deeply unpleasant places to drive
My dad has a 1-and-a-half commute between cities every day. It fucking sucks and it's killing his body.
Same reason we dont have williams X jets today
The jews that control the gasoline wont let this happen
>>77869803
Genuinely interested in this thread topic, but got stumbled on the layers of this first comment.
10/10.
Pure genius.
>>77869689
>economic rapefugee plants IED in the middle of the road
>you yell at the car to go around it
>Obamacar replies "check yo privilege honkey!"
>BOOM
Honestly I don't see this happening.
When a few of these cars inevitably crash themselves into each other, the people who made the cars would be legally responsible. So why would manufacturers want to take on that liability?
People are already accustomed to driving themselves and taking on the before-mentioned legal responsibilities that come with it. Why would the automobile industry want that to change?
>>77882134
>the people who made the cars would be legally responsible
Not if you sign a contract. You can do anything with the right paperwork.
>The Year is 2030
>As hundreds of millions continue to switch to self driving cars, a new breakthrough is made
>Molecular reconstruction "teleporters" are perfected to near 0 error, and are being placed in numerous locations around the globe
>We now live in a world where you can get from one place to another in 15-30 minutes depending on the person being reassembled
>The longest part of your commute from New York to Hong Kong, is the waiting room for a teleporter
>The roads are free and open to all, as cars become rarer and rarer, all road laws are removed
>The world is a wondrous place with 3000hp custom built hypercars are racing through the now barren wilderness that was once the roads of the world
>>77869689
Well if they aren't lazy and degenerates they will still make money. People don't have money because they are lazy freeloaders, everyone knows that.
how does police work with automatic cars?
>>77882134
tesla already has self driving
most cares are putting in limited self driving
There is liability, but when you talk about the potential profits it doesn't matter.
Just imagine if you took all the salary currently going towards truckers and gave it to google. They could pay quite a lot of settlements with that money.
>>77880707
And carry a bunch of 8' lumber with me through the grocery store?
>>77882248
You do realize teleporters would just be used to beam refugees directly into white countries by the millions, right?
>hypercar utopia
>>77881548
My dad had to do the same thing for a while. It's Father's Day, /pol/, think of the dads.
>>77882134
>why would manufacturers want to take on that liability?
Because the cars don't crash anywhere as much as human drivers do. Being liable for accidents that happen rarely is worthwhile when it convinces more people to use your service.
I see no one in here has touched on the fact that once self driving, self charging electric cars become a reality, people will just live in self driving RV's (or other large enough vehicles without the stigma) that constantly drive around the city that they 'live' in.
This will impact the housing market imo.
>>77882641
>implying they couldn't be sabotaged to rip them apart on the subatomic level
why does everything have to be automated
The car is a symbol of freedom and has been for over a century now. The public won't relinquish that, not without a fight.
You can have some wonderful experiences driving, but you have to be the one driving. Of course, some people will say they'd rather be texting or browsing their phone instead, but there's always gonna be lazy people who will bite on the first bit of pleasure instead of working for it.
Public transportation is fine because in an urban area, you're not going to need to do all of that roaming around and taking the scenic route. OP's entertaining the idea of driving itself being privatized. No way, Jose.
>>77882668
>This will impact the housing market imo
oy vey, won't someone think of the kikes. How dare those filthy goyim cut down on their costs by living and driving in the same place, how else am I supposed to sell all dose shitty 1 million+ dollar McMansions to pay for my cosmetic nose surgery?
>>77882748
>sabotaged
What do you think a teleporter does in its normal operation?
>>77882884
>The public won't relinquish that, not without a fight
Sure they won't. It's not like car maintenance and insurance are unwanted expenses or anything.
>>77882881
same reason semi autos are best. machines do it better and faster
>>77882248
Anon, do you realize you are being eaten away slowly atom by atom for 30 minutes?
>>77883089
not to mention its not you who'd show up in hong kong, but a copy of you.
this is why i would not function well in the star trek universe
>>77882881
Because humans are lazy shit. The NWO is right. We need some sort of depopulation plan.
>>77882668
That's an interesting idea. I think it's more likely to change the shape of homelessness than of home ownership, though. RVs aren't very nice to live in long-term. People who don't have to won't choose to.
>>77882979
I mean it could be sabotaged to not reassemble the dindus and sandniggers. Hell, if tech gets that good you could probably race-proof them so it only works for whites. Dindu DNA detected: elimination in progress
>>77870382
In regionall Australia, it happens quite often. I'm even way more likely to slow down and give the horse and rider some room, whereas I just blow past cyclists like the scum they are.
No seriously, fuck cyclists.
>>77883170
>The NWO is right. We need some sort of depopulation plan
Then they should stop trying to depopulate whites and instead nuke Africa or something.
>>77882668
dumbest idea ive ever heard
>>77883169
And also, just because a teleporter works perfectly doesn't mean it won't malfunction, i'd honestly prefer smashing into the sea at 800kph then this happening to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ro_QpDJX-Sk
>>77883029
That's a small price to pay. Personally, I would love it for people to be able to order car parts and then have them assembled for a service fee, kind of like how you would get stuff from Newegg. Just to expand the freedom of having your car the way you want it that much more (save for any part you would order already being cleared by federal standards, along with your finished vehicle passing all the inspections necessary so it's not some frankenstein screaming metal death trap).
>>77871566
people said the same about banning guns.
>>77883400
chances are you wouldn't feel it
>>77883400
wew lad
>>77883431
>That's a small price to pay
No, it's a large price to pay. That's why we're having this discussion. Enough people want to stop paying for car ownership that alternatives are desirable.
>>77883346
They're next.
>>77883697
Yeah, you're right anon, for a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH-8L1iZq20
>>77869689
There has to be a standard between cars and an open source solution or they can abuse their power. This is extreme convenience and it is very dangerous.
>>77883853
Are we posting horrifying teleporting accidents now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D01mdGW9-Zg
>>77878063
>Yeah, the free market will fix the problem when some angry fuckwit from Ireland puts a potato into WASP's cars
You can sabotage and kill people in regular cars, friend. Autos aren't any more dangerous.
>>77878063
cars can have multiple layers of security.
>>77883431
>Small
Nigger please. The high rates are why I refuse to drive. I don't enjoy getting Jewed out of my money by insurance kikes. Being a young male means that I get charged fuckloads just to drive. Yeah, nah, I'd rather spend that money on public transportation, which is somehow cheaper than driving myself, without the chance of getting run off the road by a teenage girl on her phone.
>personally owned cars have just been banned in America.
I think the 1% that collects rare cars will have something to say about that.
>>77885606
they can have them. just can't drive them on public roads
>>77872487
>suddenly
This shit will be gradual as fuck
>>77885777
>YOU CAN HAVE THEM, YOIU JUST CANT USE THEM
