Why did european tribes envolved as more complex civilizations while south american indigenous did not?
>>77861298
Because some races are genetically more intelligent than others.
Why is every white nation wealthy whereas every black nation is poor across the world?
And most South Americans have poor Indian blood which ruined their Spanish heritage.
>>77861298
Tribes in the middle east did the same, they had one of the earliest civilizations on Earth
>>77861298
Evolutionary pressures of the last Ice Age.
>>77861298
They're here to be subjugate and for breed.
>>77861523
Do you have any source on this?
>>77861298
Cold weather
Cold weather animals are universally smarter then their warm weather cousins
>>77861298
Where can I find that tribe at?
>>77861484
>>77861514
>>77861523
Meh.
Native americans didn't assimilate other tribes/cultures, they were mostly isolated.
The old world on the other hand was a shitstorm. Europeans knew about pretty much all european tribes and most of the North Africans and Asians.
There were knowledge exchange in pretty much everything, from agriculture to war.
>>77861298
The history of the world is geography and logic applied.
>>77861298
I was under the impression the Incans were very based.
>>77861803
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaingang_people
Mostly in the south of BR.
>>77861803
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaingang_people
you go rape them chad
The resources for agriculture.
That's it.
Agriculture.
>>77862034
Hive mind
>>77861298
time
>>77861298
they lived in warm tropical climates and had everything on a plate, the white man had to hunt and brave warm conditions, making him smarter, thus is evolution
>>77861298
>Why did european tribes envolved as more complex civilizations while south american indigenous did not?
Christianity. Tribal religions are too disparate to lend themselves to building a big society.
The harsh climate of Europe sped up our evolutionary process via natural selection. You can't afford to be a stupid nigger when colonising fucking glaciers.
>>77861298
European lands weren't as fertile, and definitely not as isolated
This forced the exchange of culture and trade with other cultures such as Persians.
The constant attack from other cultures forced certain cultures to evolve accordingly in the ways of welfare
But mostly the southern tribes never really had to develop techniques to survive, or develop democracies
If they were not hunting, they were being hunted or in a state of basic warfare that made it difficult to make room for "thinkers" such as Plato.
The mathematicians that lived in Greece during early west. civ. had little chance of survival in African/southern lands, thus the natives who lived in these lands were those who were fit to live in them.
>>77861787
Ancient Egyptians/Mayans/Aztecs/Ancient China
>>77861809
They certainly had the access to, there were many points in history where many native americans could be linked. They genuinely were not as intelligent as Europeans, or they would have evolved. In fact, by the time we showed up, the golden ages of the successful native empires had already collapsed. We showed up after the party was over.
>>77861298
I'd fuck a 14 year old squaw any day.
>>77862494
Its almost like you listed a whole bunch of civilizations that got outclassed by the europeans
>>77862644
Sir, I have to ask for you to leave.
>>77861298
My impression on the matter is South and Central America developped civilizations, which kept falling over and over.
Of course in the "West" (in the broad sense since I'm including Mespopotamia) too, civilizations fell, but there was always some sort of... continuity, maybe? Which made it so the following empires always kept stuff from the previous ones, in terms of political organization and land management.
I have no idea why that is, maybe because of interconnection like >>77862175 said.
>>77861723
No. Just a theory that one sees discussed a lot. It is natural to assume that evolutionary pressures differed in places into which glacial ice shelves were advancing, when compared to places such as equatorial Africa, Australia, or South America, for example.
European colonialism
>>77862153
>Mediterranean glaciers
fuck off jared diamon
>>77861523
Exactly, cold weather forces you to plan ahead which requires intelligence. Those who don't won't survive so only the smartest procreate.
>>77861803
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4yOsNz75H4
>>77861298
what the hell are those women wearing?
>>77861298
dem perky tits
>>77862494
Egyptians and the Chinese are at similar Latitudes to the USA. Look at a fucking map.
>Aztecs/Mayas
stone age violent niggers
>>77861787
So why are inuits and native Siberians so primitive?
>>77861787
Doesn't explain how the Natives in North America (some parts of which are colder than a fair number of European nations) never moved past hunting and gathering.
>>77862136
Most Ancient Civilizations were far more advanced than their white counterparts, most of the white race was allowed to catch up by being conquered by Rome, so one advanced white race allowed mud hut dwelling savages the chance to catch up. Without the kickstart most of Europe may well have not progressed at the rate that it did. The white race as a whole only overtook China in the past 300 years so it has nothing to do with cold weather climate and hunting. Without the technological trickle down from left by Rome and then if the Dark ages hadn't ended we may well of still been a bunch of backward fucks either frozen technologically during our pagan worship days or the middle ages.
>>77863681
Maybe it does have more relation to the isolation from other civilizations as >>77862175 pointed out.
>>77861298
colder climates
>tfw no south brazil gf
>>77863787
they had plenty of animals to eat and catch, there was 1 Native American civilization in the Eastern US but European illnesses wiped them out
>>77863445
Saving this to beat off later.
>>77863840
>The white race as a whole only overtook China in the past 300 years
Though I accept your overall point, this is patently absurd. So the Chinese had gun powder... that's it. Europeans overtook the Chinese at least 1000 years ago.
>>77863787
Native northern americans also dismantle the "Guns, Germs and Steel" argument no matter what that dude said.
They had literally everything. Probably the most prosperous continent in the world and they didn't evolve past scalping each other and living in tents.
>>77861298
"Europeans" as we know today rode on the dicks of Romans civilization and the technological drive caused by frequent war. Most native Americans only lead raids for sacrifices, resources, women, etc.
There was never a drive for dominance or complete eradication of their enemies since for the most part they're all related by blood, much like the European nobility.
Europeans also had the advantage of having a history of sailing and seafaring, which led the to exposure of different cultures and scientific thought.
So basically whites only got to where they are now by being Jew like in their interest in trade and creating national wealth.
>>77862494
They're called ancient for a reason faggot
>>77861298
Convenience of geography. European tribes were the beneficiaries of Greco-Roman influence.
>>77864221
>>77863840
Even then, Euros have been using gunpowder for 700+ years.
>>77862175
Ancient China was in a constant state of warfare both large and small and yet still developed at the same pace with Greece and Rome as well as producing philosophers and inventors.
Having to survive the winter + high concentration of population (equalling a society where IQ boosting mutations would immediatly spread in large numbers)
The answer is trade routes, smart men learn from someone else mistakes.
>>77861298
>>77861787
>>77861809
>>77862136
>>77862175
We had to walk from wherever the fuck we came all the way to Mexico and Peru, some say that it may have taken up to 20,000 years, those are years that we did not use to settle and domesticate animals anyway, by the time the Spanish arrived the Mexicans were about 1500 years behind European civilizations and the biggest mesoamerican empires had passed. It's not like they were subsaharan nigger tier, they were on the right track but the long hike from Europe to America made a dent in their advancement, I'm drunk so please no bulli.
>>77864425
That still doesn't explain why various races weren't able to develop on their own the way they did, the Americas and most of Africa only developed because they were colonized you fuckwit.
>>77864009
What a qt
>>77861298
Wheat
>>77864629
>muh winter
Explain swedes.
>>77864272
Necessity is the mother of inventions, why bother creating when what you have has worked for as long as your people can remember? It's a lot like Japan and their ritualized warrior code. When there is no true external threat for you to sharpen your blade on, cultures can stagnate from the lack of new information and ideas.
The natives were however actually extremely advance in medicine, astronomy and agriculture. You just never hear about any of that since /pol/ is just stormfront electric boogaloo
>>77861298
>Why did european tribes envolved as more complex civilizations while south american indigenous did not?
Why should they?
Men in hunter-gatherer bands in the Amazon or Africa often work LESS hours per week than the average man in the USA.
"Complex civilization" is certainly better off for those who inherit massive amounts of wealth. Is it better off for the average person? The very wealthy make claims that it is, but workers tend to be more skeptical of this. For every benefit there is also a massive drawback.
>>77863677
>Not mathematicians.
I know you hate all the shitskins, but men Mayans were cool and shit.
>>77864721
if anything that would have made you more thick skinned and evolved, idk how you can say
travelling through north america, the high areas of canada.
the indio must be subhuman
>>77863397
If they didn't know how to plan ahead like the people in the south. They would all be dead before they would know to plan ahead.
Where did they acquire the knowledge to plan ahead? Muh ice age
>>77864272
This is factually wrong.
https://youtu.be/JEYh5WACqEk
>>77862597
Still not as much as the old world.
Take the arabs: /pol/ believes that we're untermensch, with low IQ and agressive as fugg, thus not being able to create a great civilization. Ancient arabs used to live in the fucking desert and weren't something that persians or romans would bother, we were just fucking nomads.
The arabic language is rich as fuck, because it has lots of influence of the old Sumer, for example: Shamash in Sumerian was the Sun God, while Shams in arabic mean sun.
The arabic sword (the scimitar) is actually a Persian invention, same as the arabic numbers (Persia and India).
The islamic religion has evolved from the Hebraic culture, and molded the Arab world as it is today.
We also got a lot of influence from the Byzantines and other shit, and today, although /pol/ believes that we're just shitty people living like savages, we could manage to live in organized societies with a very "rich" culture, but in the end, as I said, it's just a freaking mosaic that we got from other civilizations we've clashed.
I strongly believe that native americans haven't crossed their paths as much as we did.
they didn't have as much time to develop after settling down
given a few thousand more years they may well have
anyways north american natives >>> south american natives >>> central american natives
>>77861298
Because Europe has more arable land and domesticated animals, it was much easier to stay put and advance rather than be hunter-gatherer.
>>77863677
1) The natural inhabitants of what is now the US never progressed past that of tent dwelling nomads.
2) Egypt isn't cold, look at a fucking map
>>77865188
You fuckers were domesticated by the Romans, you pricks lived in mudhuts when the teotihuacans were building piramyds, your proximity to the Roman Empire pulled you from the caves.
>>77861298
Different genes.
>>77865545
pyramids were in the 1400s.
>>77865345
They didnt, but they couldve done better. Maybe they couldnt have crossed the Atlantic if they had the european genes, but they couldve evolved better. For example, the Aztecs were sort of their version of Romans, but they were much more hated by their conquered people. If this had been averted, it would have played out differently.
>>77865545
>we wuz pyramids n shit gringo
>gib job pls
>>77865345
>/pol/ believes that we're untermensch
>we're
You have to go back.
And also, whatever you say about arabs is completely invalidated by the savagery that is Islam. Until you fix that shit and make it acceptable in our world you'll be regarded as a bunch of savage goatfuckers.
South America had it's complex civilizations. Not as complex as Europeans but leagues above niggers.
>>77861484
>every white nation is wealthy
>Russia
>Croatia
>Romania
>Bulgaria
>Belarus
>Lithuania
>Latvia
>Wealthy
>>77865730
>he doesnt know his own flag
cuck. didnt you have your state flag in every classroom in school?
>>77865273
Very related topic
>>77865201
Mutations then selection
>>77861298
Because Europe had winters that would sometimes last 6 months and kill all the dumb people.
>>77861523
What he said.
>>77865720
Those were the ones in Mexico City, tenochtitlan, there the ones north that no one knows when were they build or by who and the Mayan empire was gone too, some Mayans are dated on the early 200.
>>77865785
>completely invalidated by the savagery that is Islam
That's a sunni problem.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Space_Agency
>>77865345
inbreeding fucked arabs up, also the desert heat, Arabs had writing in 400ad, natives never had writing.
>>77865838
You forgot moldova and ukraine, whitest countries in europe bar none.
>>77861298
where are their damn pubes?
>>77861298
Intentionally done by the alien race living in the earth so that humanity will be distracted with each other instead of focusing on their real oppressor.
>>77865838
Yes, they are incredibly wealthy compared to africa and most of asia, seriously.
>>77865838
What is communism?
>>77864629
>>77864889
http://www.sq.4mg.com/LynnIQdiff.htm
>>77863787
>jews
>>77866220
I guess their potential for achievements would be as high as anyone else, if they didn't devote 99% of their time to stone women, kill gays, behead infidels and look for every way possible to destroy and conquer our civilization. Sure.
Should we also put the pooinloos in our same level because they will be a designated superpower by 2030?
>>77864221
In what sense did Europe overtake China other than perhaps exploration through more advanced ship building? Warfare/Architecture/Science/Philosophy all seem pretty equal up until we started firing lead balls at each other. 300 years may have been a bit too little but 1000 years is way too much, I'd say 500 or so years ago is the point we left them behind as far as military technology and average quality of life goes.
>>77866078
The olmec civilization was building monuments and shit since the 1500 BC
>>77866952
We had better weapons, better tactics and better discipline, we also had a greater understanding of economic principles and were better at trade, all of these things caused the century of humiliation. Also Europe had a lot of small, powerful states all trading and fighting each other, our countries were more populous per square inch and more urban too.
>>77862175
>we apes cuz we live in a jungle
you said it yourself
>>77867280
Shit I forgot about the atlantes, good catch. There were so many empires that most of them are forgotten.
Ancient european tribes mastered iron making and horseriding for example while american tribes always remained stone age people
>>77865394
????
How?
The North American natives never really built great cities or developed much beyond hunting and gathering.
I will say that I thoroughly enjoy the philosophy of many of the Northern American tribes though. Pretty harmonious imo. Central and South American Natives were violent fuckers.
>>77867580
I think you are forgetting the gold.
Incas and Mayans had control over it, there was just no source for iron
>>77867718
Not really true, its just that the great civilizations had long since fallen by the time we showed up. There were large empires in the north far before we arrived and had collapsed in different ways long ago.
>>77867580
also, there where no horses in america and llamas are hard to ride
Nothing compares to Western Civilization.
>>77865792
God damn that'd be a comfy place to wake up to the Sun Rise every morning.
>>77865545
>you pricks lived in mudhuts when the teotihuacans were building piramyds
NOSOTROS
>>77867844
>There were large empires in the north far before we arrived and had collapsed in different ways long ago.
I've literally never heard of this. Source?
>>77861298
Because not everyone needs a wifi to shitpost on 4chinz
>>77866782
Religion is a helluva drug.
>>77867844
Genuinely interested. Go on.
>>77867580
I'm watching some documentals about the Lusitanians, you guy were Stone Age too, the fucking Romans tried to exterminate you but hid in the mountains and caves, don't pretend you niggers were a beacon of civilization. Explain all the gold and silver the Spanish took back on their first trip, they had copper, tin and therefore bronze.
>>77867917
Until you get your still beating heart ripped out from your chest in a sacrifical ceremony that is
>>77861298
Long winters.
>>77861298
South Americans arrived rather late into the continent I thought?
>>77861298
>SHAVING/WAXING PUBES ARE OPPRESSIVE CIS WHITE 20th CENTURY CULTURE!
>END THE PATRIARCHY
>>77868224
this anyone can survive in the sun with fertile soil surviving in winter without technology is hell
>>77868017
FUIMOS
>>77864721
>We had to walk from wherever the fuck we came all the way to Mexico and Peru, some say that it may have taken up to 20,000 years, those are years that we did not use to settle and domesticate animals anyway,
piss poor
that fucking leaf with cancer and one leg walked across canada and died by the time he was 22
if he wasn't trying to beat the clock he probably would have domesticated some grizzly bears en route
>>77861298
guns, germens and steal :^)
>>77861298
white people happened upon the scientific method due to Greeks and Romans. That's it. That train of thought was literally stronger and more influential than any religion ever was.
>>77868193
>I'm watching some documentals about the Lusitanians, you guy were Stone Age too, the fucking Romans tried to exterminate you
Must be why the romans themselves adopted the iberian iron sword for their armies
Besides the romans assimilated the native peoples they conquered into the empire instead of replacing them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEYh5WACqEk
>>77866952
One theory as to why China fell behind Europe is that our societies were based on wheat, while China was based on rice.
Wheat gives a lower yield than rice, but requires considerably less work to sow and maintain. Rice gives a higher yield, but requires constant maintenance. The idea behind it is that wheat growing civlizations can spend their time more freely and spread across a wider selection of professions. Meanwhile, rice growing civilizations built their towns around growing rice, and spend more or less their whole day tending to the fields. This created very right knit communities where everyone worked together. However, traits like independence, creativity and originality were strongly discouraged, because each town requires you to work in the fields without pause.
This does reflect our societies very well, as Europe ended up with a culture that combines the best of both worlds. We got the higher intelligence and discipline associated with living in northern territories that requires us to work together, but we also had a strong sense of independence and curiosity.
Meanwhile, the chinks are hard workers with high intelligence, but completely lack any kind of creativity, and rarely deviate from society's expectations. That's why you see so many good Asian students, who can work on their skills to the point of robotic perfection, but never break any new ground. I mean, take any skill that just requires endless repetition that normal people would get bored of, and you'll find a lot of Asians.
>>77868213
>not being part of the priest caste
>being this pleb
>>77868549
Forgot link to study.
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/344/6184/603.abstract?rss=1
>>77868245
That has got to be the ugliest race of people I've ever seen. They're all chubby with ugly faces.
>>77863677
Tenochtitlan was the largest city in the world at the time you retard.
>>77868478
The gladius was from Spain, keep thinking you fucks were and empire in old times, you're as delusional as de WE WAZ KANGZ crowd.
>>77861298
the south americans evolved civilizations in the same way that europeans did
they were banding together into large citystates and nations, and all of the groups that remained as scattered tribes were being wiped out
but they were slowly than the europeans to do this, and so when the europeans arrived there were still a lot of tribes left
the scattered tribes happened to be less vulnerable to the disease that europeans brought with them than the crowded cities, so the city folk died out and now all anyone remembers are the tribesmen because they're the people who didn't die(as fast)
>>77868360
No. That book was written by some Jewish, sociologist fag with the purpose of discrediting the biological aspect of race.
>>77868347
AZTECAS
>>77861298
out necessity... Europan climat is harder, only the strong and clever survived.... -the evolution
>>77868648
>and to think I was gonna invite you to ayahuasca and chill :^(
>>77861484
Intelligence can be enhanced due to better selection inside the races, like the Ashkenazi jews.
>>77868245
>>77864122
>>77864009
>>77861298
>All these delicious wombs waiting for my seed
Fuck you, /pol/ I will never refuse to race mix
>>77861298
Europeans trough most time in history were, technologic speaking, tied with other "nations" or even behind.
were really specific events that happenend during the middle ages that allowed their unusual progress
>>77861484
Was gonna reply but this national PSA saved me
>>77868032
>>77868187
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adena_culture
one example, though not really an empire its a "complex society"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippian_culture
these guys brought a few people under them and did some genuinely empire-y stuff. The apalachees also had some shit going on more towards the end, but like I said, alot of stuff isnt really known, so I cant source it. I have heard of historians talking about hopewell cultures and giant trade networks but yknow.
>>77868691
>The gladius was from Spain, keep thinking you fucks were and empire in old times,
This must be a stone sword then lel all iberians by then were iron makers
What about the discoveries where we had to civilize your savage asses, is that WE WUZ bullshit too?
>>77865838
GraphsOfTheirGDP's.jpg
they have some catching up to do after they were subjugated by fanatical leftists for 70 years.
>>77861298
What are the incas you fucking illiterate?
>>77868968
oops you still replied
good job burgerlord
>>77868913
>tfw you'll never be a Spaniard
>>77869021
Portugal is nothing but Marranos that jewed the Spanish crown and you fucking know that.
No beasts of burden
They didn't utilize the wheel
>>77869132
>bronze age level civilization at 1200-1535 AD disproves his point
>>77861298
"The Spanish Conquistadors were impressed by the advanced level of dentistry they found in the New World. All three cultures, the Maya, Inca, and Aztec extensively used toothbrushes and toothpaste. These ancient dentists filled cavities, removed teeth, and cleaned tartar with copper instruments. Even more amazing is that they had names for every tooth and procedure. They were so advanced that after a dental procedure was performed they had their patients rinse with a saline solution. This is something that is still done today. These dentists used natural medicines to treat gum disease, inflammations, tooth decay, and fever blisters. They also used alum to whiten teeth, had remedies for bad breath, invented the toothbrush, and extensively used the tooth pick. The Aztecs called the toothpick, “netlantataconi.” Also, the Aztecs used plain unsweetened gum called chicle as a preventative against tooth decay. They used the chicle to clean teeth and to treat medical conditions"
I remember seeing a documentary like half a decade ago when they examined the skull of a Mayan dude and the tooth-fixing paste he had applied on his teeth still hadn't come off after all this years. They called a lab to research it but they coudnt determinate the exact composition.
>>77869191
Yeah except we started venturing in the oceans before the spaniards
>Very early copper and bronze working sites in Niger, West Africa may date to as early as 1500 BC. There is also evidence of iron metallurgy in Termit, Niger from around this period.[11][55] In Central Africa, iron working may have been practiced as early as the 3rd millennium BC.
See here Pablo, even niggers could make iron, so you're even more primitive than them fucking kek
>>77867396
>century of humiliation
Weapons, tactics, discipline, trade and economics were all very much equal in my view up until the replacement of Swords/Bows with Guns. Steel swords/Spears are still Steel swords/Spears regardless of what they look like. Tactics were again pretty standard in those times across the board until the introduction of canons in siege warfare (mid 14th century), discipline is subjective, I'm assuming you mean training instead but I'd say that would still be equal as both were in constant states of warfare and trade and economics were cornerstones of all of the major empires and the Silk road and trade are how gunpowder came to Europe in the first place, China had been trading Westward since before the birth of Christ.
I'd still stand by my re-evaluated figure of about 500 years, the Matchlock didn't appear until around the 15th century which is where I would say Europe left China behind.
>>77861298
>>77861298
That's why white races have done nothing but kill each other.....while the Inca where buzy creating Quinoa, Tomato, and Potato. All white people did is kill each other over stupid shit. This is what I call the Evolution of the best and brightest in Europe. You were dumb, you got kill. You were lazy, you get kill. You were ugly, kill. No room on Europe for this shit. America on the other hand
>>77869189
Why are brown girls so cozy
>>77861484
so why didn't Europe surpass the Middle East and East Asia in technology/science until the last few hundred years?
>>77869201
They had the wheel but shitty cross jungle roads werent designed for carts and there were plenty of tribes to enslave.
>>77868213
Did the natives of Machu Pichu do sacrifices? Did the Empirical tribes ever interact with the Machu Pichu natives? It's hard for me to imagine anyone even knowing they were all the way up there.
>>77869132
>1535 AD
>these people were still leaving in the stone age when europeans already had firearms and printing press
You can't make this shit up
>>77869381
I wonder if this is because they all ate corn all day. Kind of a necessity
I remember reading that a lot of natives had their teeth completely rotten out and most likely because of the high concentration of corn in their diets.
>>77868438
It's the better ego trip as well, I'd say.
>>77861298
weather
>>77869473
>That's why white races have done nothing but kill each other.....while the Inca where buzy creating Quinoa, Tomato, and Potato. All white people did is kill each other over stupid shit
Are you retarded or something? The South American civilizations had some of the most brutal, warlike cultures in history. Warfare, genocide and human sacrifices were common practise.
>>77869549
They sure are, i'd mix, definitely.
>>77869567
Don't forget the absence of beasts
all the work had to be man made
>>77869132
Funny you call him iliterate when no American civilization developed a written language
>>77861298
I can see why the explorers raped
>>77869322
>>77869628
>What are connections?
We were legitly disconected unlike Africa
>>77869381
Holy shit that's what my Spanish speaking family calls gum.
>>77869003
Thanks.
>>77869628
1200's the Mongols were using explosives against European armies and the Europeans thought it was magic
>>77865838
>slavs
>white
>>77869726
She looks like a mongoloid.
>>77865838
>slavs
>white
To a dirty favela monkey, I'm sure
>>77869381
WE WUZ DENTISTS N SHIET NIGGA
>>77869765
Mayans and Aztecs had a written language, a numerical system, a calendar.
Most of them were not literate
I can't defend the incas or guarani
>>77861298
Why do they shave their baginas?
>>77869726
they're originally asiatic, your yellow fever isn't limited to color.
>>77869846
I have a manual on forensic anthropology that says Asian and Native American skulls are very hard to distinguish
>>77861298
Mmmm dem puffy nips doe
*smacks lips profusely*
>>77861484
Ireland isn't wealthy
Neither is Ukraine
Or Poland
Pretty much only Western Europe
>>77869459
Are you taking serious that I'm calling the portoguese subhumans and now you came out as a nigger? Wholly shit Portugal is really invaded with niggers making shit up and redacting the wiki page.
>>77869958
>yfw thats their natural hairline
>>77869810
>and the Europeans thought it was magic
Lmao
Even ancient byzantines had greek fire centuries before
>>77869628
>Actually developed much more quickly than any old world civilization, but the beach-combers reached that are thousands of years later.
Don't let the facts get in the way of your propaganda, jackass.
>>77861298
>Why did european tribes envolved as more complex civilizations while south american indigenous did not?
It is mostly the weather and the problems that it brings when gathering food or finding shelter.Having problems will drive you in search of a solution.There also is the element of luck.
Ask yourself why are most of those survival shows with lots of people on some tropical island and not in a European forest.
Let me tell you why.You won't survive here.Especially during the winter.
>>77869772
Yes you had some fine civilizations, especially since you had no contact with Europe or Asia but lets not try and compare the level of civilization with the European or Asian.
Yeah you BTFO sub-saharan Africa
>>77870050
>Not retarded, just pretending :D
>y-you-re just editing wiki pages now, there's no way we could be even more primitive than literal niggers now could we?
>>77861298
IQ
end of thread
>>77869646
It developed that much because they engraved jewelry into their teeths as a sing of status.
>>77869798
Its lost to modern science, they could only determine it was a mixture of plant ingredients that had degraded over time.
>>77869765
kek
South American civilization was pretty advanced with what they had. The issue is that the most productive crop they had was maize and their only beast of burden was the llama. If they had horses, oxen, wheat, barley, rice like Europe and Asia did their societies would have been far more productive and they could focus less on agriculture and put more effort into other shit. They did very well with what they had available to them I think
>>77870065
greek fire is theorised just to be oil, if it ever existed at all. Byzantines weren't ancient and most of their military tactics and technology came from Sassanian Persia
>>77870052
No...are you serious?
>>77865838
Eastern Europe has the highest GDP growth rate of any region besides East Asia right now. Communism was slowing them down.
>>77869970
I guess
>tfw no qt native gf
>>77870065
And the Chinese were piping natural gas through bamboo and drinking beer with their meals when most of the Europeans were still living in caves.
How does being a nigger compared to asians feel?
>>77869726
>>77869549
She can take care of you, and teach you to survive in the jungle. She knows exactly how to cater to your every need and whim. Will you settle down with her for a new life, and leave the endless rat race of modern life?
>>77870235
>if if if
>AYHOO DEM WHITEYS JUS HAD DEM GUNZ TO MAKE US SLABES CUZ WE WUZ KANGZ N GODS N SHIET
just stop
>>77861298
Some did, they were largely wiped out by disease from the first explorers though so the native americans the Europeans encountered were little more than bands of survivors.
Native americans were also thousands of years late in settling the continent.
>>77870214
On my first post I stated that the Mexican natives were about 1500 years behind European civilizations, and there is no fucking way you can compare mesoamerican civilizations to African ones, and they had a fucking huge head start since they did not have to trek across the planet.
>>77870435
>Will you settle down with her for a new life, and leave the endless rat race of modern life?
yes please
>why did you evil north American natives have to bully my people out of North America
;^(
>>77870517
Is it really so hard to admit that other civilizations weren't complete shit in every single way?
>>77868913
MUH DICK
>>77870517
pablo you're literally the third world of europe, you have no right to look down on anyone. You have all the trade and technology sitting next to you in europe and asians are quickly surpassing your broke ass country. Portugeese are the niggers compared to other Europeans. You had a brief period where you looted other nations and made yourself wealthy and then you squandered it like a nigger would. You lazy fuck
>>77869978
I was referring to the old term for people with Down's syndrome, not Mongols as an ethnicity.
>>77870425
>And the Chinese were piping natural gas through bamboo and drinking beer with their meals when most of the Europeans were still living in caves.
You forgot da pyramids, spaceships n shiet
>>77861298
Constant warfare, constant invasion from both without and within. Limited resources and natural barriers that kept any one tribe or kingdom from gaining advantage. Constant warfare for 1000 years spurred technological innovation to the point that the tribes of Europe became kingdoms, and then became Empires that couldn't defeat each other, but had the ships to spread across the globe where they found stone age, iron age and bronze age societies.
Europe was born in blood and fire. As of late, the fire has been dimmed. But the embers are still there, smoldering. Waiting to be rekindled.
Europe will rise again. And America will stand with her when she does.
>>77870235
yeah but none of that is related to the ritual cannibalism, child sacrifice, and other forms of murder they celebrate.
we've already established that as stupid as mexicans are, their main problems are with violence
take their version of christmas: warriors all personally find an enemy warrior to sacrifice. they skin him (without preserving the skin) and wear the skin, bloody, for an entire month until the putrefied skin falls off.
their "organization" and "civilization" involved instead of ritual warfare to capture the hostages (too many people died on both sides) turned into ritual exchange of prisoners so that they could do it "peacefully."
cool. what great people.
>>77870766
no I didn't. That's white people's explanations for other ancient civilizations because they can't comprehend that non-Europeans were surpassing them for thousands of years.
pablo I remind you that your country is a broke shithole and almost always has been
>>77870707
>the flag
You're right, I'm sorry I took you seriously there for a while chink
>>77870364
Sure, they sold one cabbage under communism, now each year they sell two cabbages. 200% GDP growth WOW!
>>77870517
Absolutely anyone who did even the least amount of research into the subject know the "gun vs spear" is nothing more than a myth, the empire fell because of disease (the text of the original population even describes they couldn't believe how dirty the european people where, saying the "looked like gods but smelled like wild beasts"), general strife among the population, the pachacuti ideology and a lot of more complex issues.
It's the weather stupid. Warm climate promotes individualism. Ancient Tyrone could give momma a finger and get lost in the backwoods for months without much trouble. Long harsh European winters condition people to relay on each other. For thousands fo generations it has been imprinted deeply in collective conscience to help others like no other place in earth. Societies in relative peace with strong bonds progress forward at a much faster pace than chaotic countries that everyone is trying to tear every other apart. In a nutshell overly simplified way. To the some of you claiming superior white intellect, you are fucking idiots.
>>77861298
Winter - only the optimal combination of strength and intelligence survived.
smart and strong enough to get yourself and your offspring through the cold seasons.
Also Europeans implemented a strict codex of honour. + Our ancestors stopped the pussyhunting of males by giving nearly every male a wife at relatively young age, so they could concentrate their energy on building up civilisation and improving society.
Everyone who went against the codex was hung and thrown into a swamp.
>>77870807
Africa was in a state of constant tribal warfare with limited resources and they achieved a grand sum of fuck all.
>>77870918
Well at least you didn't call me Portuguese, a lazy smelly portuguese
>>77870894
>they can't comprehend that non-Europeans were surpassing them for thousands of years.
In what?
>pablo I remind you that your country is a broke shithole and almost always has been
We discovered a sea route to your country and made you our chink bitches for a while though :)
>filled with jungles to the east and mountains to the west so no longitudinal traveling
>has a wide variety of climates, making your crops useless in a different latitude, no latitudinal traveling either
>even if you had somewhere to expand your civilization to, you don't have horses which makes traveling and sending/receiving messages a pain in the ass
>interacting with other civilizations and waging war is also affected by the point above, so no major technology exchanges happened
One thing about the Amazonas Rainforest, its soil is shit, it doesn't have nutrients to sustain large agriculture, You may argue that it does, because of the forest, but the trees and animals there keep a close ecological relation, so what happens mostly is, people burn down the forest to try and plant something, and fail if they don't have technology for improving soil conditions.
Now with that said, there are archeological indications that at some point, natives tried bigger agriculture forms, but failed because of the soil, and honestly, why would you bother trying constantly to plant something, on a bad soil, when you can hunt and forage?
The inability to have an agriculture based society, made it impossible to grow as complex societies, because they would not be able to live purely of hunting and foraging, this also caused constant warfare between tribes, that fought for the better areas to hunt.
>>77871208
Actually strict monogamy is more of a recent thing even within Christianity, like in the last few centuries.
"Codex of honor"? I think you've been playing too much Warhammer Hanz. If I didn't see your flag I'd figure you were American because it's usually them with the meme explanations
>>77870894
the only nonwhite civ that ever surpassed whites in the past was china. not coincidentally, they're the only ones who are comparable to us today.
the idea that past civs were great when that groups modern iqs are lucky to surpass the high 80s is ridiculous
>>77871244
I'm not chinese, pablo. You're literally nigger tier stop trying to discuss history, all your country ever did was loot and rape. Never actually contributed anything positive
>>77861298
>Why did european tribes envolved as more complex civilizations while south american indigenous did not?
The tribes were younger
>>77870971
europeans needed to wear clothes to protect their skin against teh sun. of course the smelled worse.
further, scientists document that different ethnic groups smell worse to each other. it's pheremones.
you're right about the disease though.
The reason is because transport and commerce.
People not only traded values, they shared ideas, knowledge, technology. And desu Europeans had a good luck with Greece.
Conquest is also important, thanks to the Roman civilization Europe evolved faster than any other civilization.
>>77861484
>This asshole...
yeah..
>>77871281
At least lots of indian tribes where smart enough to make alliences with the Portuguese that had better technology and helped them kill the resistent tribes and all that
That is a +1 in my book
>>77871509
>You're literally nigger tier stop trying to discuss history, all your country ever did was loot and rape. Never actually contributed anything positive
>Australia
What did you do beside being the british dumping ground?
>>77863677
I wonder if the temperature of Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia were more like Greece and Rome at 0AD and more like Northern Europe today?
>>77871425
> American education
Ancient Egyptians
Phoenicians
Babylonians,
Assyrians,
Sumerians
Indus River Valley
Persians
Abbasid Caliphate
Umayyad Caliphate
That's off the top of my head
Even the Ancient Greek golden age pop history fawns over happened after the Greeks were exposed to Phoenician and Babylonian Maths and Philosophy.
>>77861298
>Why did european tribes envolved as more complex civilizations while south american indigenous did not?
While they had a seemingly less advanced civilization, their understanding of medicine was far beyond anything from euroasia and africa. They had knoledge to treat literally every single disease native to their geografic region, a similar feat has not happened in any western civilizations to date.
Basically, they lived in isolation and in a very stable way, they had no incentive or reason to evolve beyond that, so they did not. Kind of like those abyssal fishes who have not evolved for millions of years because their habitat has not changed in all that time.
lack of useful animals to domesticate.
Eurasia and Africa had horses, cow, ox, buffalo, bison, chicken, pig, and camel.
The americas had the Llama and Alpaca.
>>77871208
this
>>77871351
>justifications
>>77871372
captain tradies to the rescue
the romans documented strict monogamy and stern codes of honor among the germanic "barbarians," whilst the italians were getting drunk and laying arond in the sun.
the german character was set in stone long before christianity.
FWIW germans were mining ALL of the greek tin back in the bronze age, which means that they figured out how to MINE WITHOUT WRITTEN LANGUAGE before even teh greeks did, and it also means that they managed to have safe trade networks to get that tin to greece, safely, under a system of trust and promise. that implies honor.
you ozzies need to read more.
>>77861298
I mean... At least they have shaved pussies
>>77871634
Then why didn't you stay japanese instead of moving to a large ass isolated continent?
>>77871281
Fuck off Jared Diamond
>>77861298
Europeans and their predecessors disputed with barely no pauses against other civilizations/genetic groups over 100k years and were able to keep and trade better their technologies/culture than Amerindians.
Way too much forest/bad terrain over here, so it was harder to develop trading and culture/technology. It was harder to interact with others for they lacked mobility.
Modern Europeans are like 40k years old genetically and even older culturally. Still so, a bunch of barbarians until few thousand years ago. Keep this in mind.
American culture was barely reset, few people moved in to the continent. They didn't have the darwinian cultural stability the Europeans got over 100k years by being around the same place.
Not only Amerindians had a well spread, small population, but also were one of the few people who used birth control methods. So it took away most of the necessity for expanding territories and its disputes.
South American indians are also known to don't like sex/women.
Maybe the environment is too rough to mongoloids, although their potential to be the master race over caucasoids and negroids (the relevant races) - at least the East Asian counterpart.
I don't know if any superior civilization or genetic group would really have risen and dominated the others over here. I just know it definitively didn't happen.
Europeans coming, and their old world diseases, flushed away Amerindians and their culture from the world. A lot of potential lost to casuality. Unlike negroids, they didn't get enough time to develop. No idea if they would ever be as successful as Europeans, Asians or North Africans.
>>77861298
God latino women are so ugly. They only look good when they have a lot of white genetics in them. Just like everyone else on the planet
>>77861484
>what is economics
>>77863840
>le dark age meme
That's how I know right away you're talking out or your arse.
>>77862153
Nobody lived in glaciers.
>>77864417
> t tonto
>>77871608
Nha, they literally smelled like shit because most of them where human filth dragged from prisons to serve as crew. Also, like half the population died of dysentery during the voyage.
Its well documented that during the middle ages an even into the pre industrial europe people who took bath once a year where considered to be very clean. (most people simply didn't give a shit or used cologne if they were rich enough).
>>77871933
The Germans did have a writing system, they were using the Greek alphabet.
but you're absolutely wrong on this. The cultural concept of strict monogomy didn't set into Christianity until much later because it merged somewhat with Pagan cultures. You'd have youre wife that you're married to but it was normal to be fucking around a bit
>>77863380
Diamond explicitly rejects that line of thought.
>>77871372
>look at flag
>Australia
>trying to lecture me about pagan traditions of old
I studied early and pre history for 2 years, especially this field. Monogamy was THE construct that helped Europeans survive and build civilisation. They killed off everyone who commited adultery, mostly by hanging. Then they threw them into the swamps with the rope still around their necks, as a sign of them being honorless so they don't deserve to lay with their honored ancestors. (ropes around neck, so in the afterlife everyone would recognize that they had committed serious crimes - like a negative burial object)
Why? Simple. In a harsh environment (winter e.g.) everyone has to trust each other 100%. Fucking someone elses wife, or committing any other serious crime makes someone not trustworthy and therefore honorless. Who cannot be trusted is a danger to the group and had to be killed.
For small misdemeanour, honor was simply lost but could be regained, other ones got people banished (most likely resulting in death)
>>77864272
Not only do you have next to no understanding of history, but you appear to not even have read GGS before criticizing it.
>>77871757
the egyptian civilization existed before modern whites even LIVED in europe, ditto for the phoenecians>sumerians on your list, which all occur in a VERY narrow timespan within 50 miles of each other. you're an idiot who thinks name dropping several things at once proves your breadth of knowledge.
modern europeans emerged less than 10k years ago. the basal genetic population lived in the northern persian valleys during the deep ice age, and only moved into europe after it passed. the early persian or indo-aryan civilizations ARE these same people. which is why we speak INDO ARYAN LANGUAGES whose writing systems found on pottery is the SAME as those found by anthropologists. look up the history of corded ware vs alternatives.
as SOON as we got into europe, we killed the basque-like people wh lived there and within 5k years built greece.
the other genetic populations, globally, take the arabs, or the indians, have PERSISTENTLY LIVED where they are for 20k fucking years and built nothing.
same with china. as SOON as they made it to the yangtze river/yellow river basins, they IMMEDIATELY established large farming cultures and written language. the difference is that china wasn't frozen over. they had a head start.
china and europeans civilizations are the most advanced, and ALWAYS have been, and became more advanced almost as soon as settled agriculture began.
the other civilizations lived where they lived for TWENTY THOUSAND YEARS and still couldn't build anything comparable
fucking bogans
>>77871848
wow a smart brazilian
>abyssal fishes did not evolve because their habitat has not changed
THIS EXACTLY
>>77861298
Race as an explanation is really a good one. But not allowed anymore on social studies circles. It's not even considered.
>>77870435
why the fuck is her left tit a poorly shopped on flipped right tit?
>>77864969
Good post. A very little-brought-up point.
Until a little under a century ago, many Europeans and Americans were miserable. Today there are still billions of people in poverty and misery.
>>77869558
Lol it was much more advanced for longer then thay
>>77872023
>latino
those chicks in that pic are pretty much full bloodied indians. "latino" refers mostly to mixed or white inhabitants of the spanish speaking americas.
>>77872401
please show me the Historians that promote the idea that monogamy leads to building civilization. And your explanation of "codex of honor" You're full of shit. If by "Study for 2 years" you mean read bullshit on /pol/ then sure, but there's no academia that suggest what you're saying.
Maybe you should stick to painting and not try to discuss things like race and history?
Most of Europe doesn't have a harsh winter, Central Asia in the Steppes, East Asia and Siberia has more brutal winters so by your own logic they should have smarter people
>>77866300
American Indians are naturally less hirsute than most Europeans or even East Asians.
>>77872565
>Didn't have the number zero till 1200s
>WE WUZ ARYANZ N SHIIIEEET
>>77872656
>wow a smart brazilian
I just got a degree in biology by UNESP, it is the 10th best university in latin america.
And yet I can't get a job anywhere in this broken economy, leaving me as a poor depressed and frustated NEET with no hopes for the future...
Oh the irony!
>>77872291
it's speculated. we've recovered no proof of this, however. it's highly likely that germans and celts had paper technology at the time, which explains why there are no surviving records, but why greek records survive in stone, among other things.
>monogamy
perhaps you're investing in too narrow a definition of monogamy. by tha definition, no one, ever, has been monogamous, anywhere on teh globe.
monogamy is a system of marriage that facilitates passing down title and property to trueborn sons, which encourages eugenics, property law, and eventually turns into nuclear families instead of clans.
definitions aren't arbitrary, they need to flow from natural causes. you define monogamy according to arbitrary modern laws. but the evolutionary pressure towards monogamy is what defines the actual process.
>>77871968
shiiiet, barbosa is out of control
>>77872401
Then why did all major ancient civilizations originate in a hot area? If anything countries that are colder are stupider, look at natives, central Asians and Europeans up to the 1800s.
>>77865838
>Slavs are white
Nice try retardinho
>>77868213
>>77869601
The Inca did some human sacrifices but it was relatively rare (and much less gruesome) compared to the Aztecs or Maya.
