http://epirev.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/1/140.abstract
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVHMI1lL1pA
anticipating /pol/ack responses
>But blacks commit most most gun crime anyways
Studies in South Africa showed a decline in gun deaths after gun control measures were passed. Gun control does keep guns out of the hands of violent blacks.
>But muh second amendment .. "Shall not be infringed"
You missed the first part where it says "WELL-REGULATED militia". The government does have the power to regulate guns
>But muh NRA shillbucks
I'm sure you can shill for some other cuckservative organisation after we get gun control.
Damn... really gets you pondering...
>>77764270
not what well regulated means...
>>77764270
How come there are stil over 200 gun related deaths despite that law?
>>77764270
>>77764270
Really makes me think, semaphore flag
>>77764626
>>77764270
>"let's be more like south africa guys."
>>77764270
Also
>They will just find another weapon to kill
the studies show that there was no corresponding increase in non-gun homicides
>>77764481
It took a while to confiscate all the guns
>>77764560
Whoa . comparing a developing nation to a wealthy European one. Honduras does allow citizens to own guns , though it does require a background check.
>>77764677
you didn't anticipate this one, shithead
>>77764560
Stupid meme
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/sep/30/viral-image/viral-flawed-post-compares-honduras-switzerland-gu/
>>77764270
Gun homicide going down and after gun ban it continues to go down at the same rate.
>>77764270
>it's Trinidad and Tobago again
>a country who's per capita homicide rate is in the top 10
fuck off, nobody fucking asked you
Very compelling arguments that are totally original.
>>77764727
>>77764560
Switzerland DOES NOT require its citizens to own guns. Stop falling for this meme.
>>77764270
Fuck off Trinidad. Gun crime in Jamaica is out of fucking control.
Its gotten so bad that the government is just now allowing law abiding citizens to arm themselves, in a last ditch effort to use civilians to combat crime in the streets for when the police arent around.
My dad just got his permit and 9mm after a year of red tape and training, and they explicitly told him they expect him to take the gun with him everywhere and shoot a criminal on sight in broad daylight if seen committing a crime.
>>77764780
Did they get you thinking...?
>>77764791
>>77764560
causation ≠ correlation
>>77764791
>black gun violence
.....wow makes you think....like a lot
>>77764270
>after we get gun control.
Who is "we?" Why the need to hide behind a VPN if you are talking about "we" implying you are an American, right?
Reported for rule violation, using proxy.
>>77764938
I'm just on vacation now.
>>77764270
>http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2015/11/10/australias-secret-gun-problem-exposed/
>>77764737
Normally I would hate politifact but it's not completely dumb right now
>>77764270
You don't say.
>>77764626
All this shows is that when there's a 40/60 split between gun ownership, there's violence
All violent crime in all civilized society has dropped dramatic since the 90s.
Even without gun control and with a high nigger population, gun murder rate, overall murder rate, and the violent crime rate in the US has dropped about 40% since the 90s.
>>77764688
>It took a while to confiscate all the guns
When were all guns confiscated and how do they deal with homemade ones?
>>77764270
Gun deaths include suicide. Bring that chart up again with murders related with fire arms. Better yet. Look up crime rate increase after the gun ban.
Faggot.
>>77765225
>the US has dropped about 40% since the 90s.
That's because we cracked down on gang violence
>>77764270
I dare you to study Brazil gun restriction law reinforcements and then find any homicide decline. YOU CAN'T.
>>77764560
The Swiss are not required to own a gun. And the army men that do usually have one pistol and the vast majority have no ammunition for said pistol and obviously they are not allowd to walk around with it.
>>77764270
It really makes me think...
You're a pathetic faggot who wouldn't defend his family.
Also exact same graph and exact same bullshit was wrecked earlier today.
>>77764270
Well regulated means "stuff is in working order", not "under the thumb of the government".
>>77764270
>You missed the first part where it says "WELL-REGULATED militia". The government does have the power to regulate guns
you misunderstand the second amendment.
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the pepole to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed."
in "current year" speak, that means
A militia is a vital part of keeping the USA free; you cant mess with gun rights.
this is how the "militia" is defined
10 U.S. Code § 311 - Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
so long story short fuck off to your own thirds world country and mind your own business
>>77765314
Mostly because we banned lead in motor fuels and everyone isn't suffering from low level lead poisoning.
>>77765225
This.
Always laugh about people screaming about Chicagos murder rate. In 1992, Chicago was at nearly 1,000 murders! This year, with all the media hype, its expected to end 2016 with only about 450 murders.
>>77764270
Gun control decreases GUN murder but murder rates stays the same or rarely change, while assaults and robberies increase as criminals have no fears of getting shot by a home owner.
>Trinidad and Obongo
Of course some shitskin coloured nigger wants to remove guns, unless you're a burger who enjoys being cucked by his government.
>>77765301
>guys semi-auto is banned because the military doesn't use it
>so you gotta use full auto, sorry guys. Grab a suppressor for all that noise it's gonna make
>>77764270
wow it's fucking nothing
>>77765022
So your some rich gun grabbing faggot, eh? Please tell me your jewish.
>>77764270
>gun deaths
why is this a useful metric for anything
>>77764270
>there are still gun deaths
Looks like it doesn't work
>>77764270
>removing guns from the majority of the population reduces gun deaths
gj professor got some more breaking news for us
>>77766096
I made this :)
>>77764270
A FUCKING DIAGONAL LINE
>>77766246
Nice. Saved.
>>77766363
I'm still at a loss as to why there was no outrage when the ATF got caught entrapping retards and brain-damaged individuals in cities across the country. How sociopathic can one bureaucracy be?
http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/backfire-190528221.html
>>77766363
Ruby Ridge was the catalyst that kicked off the Militia movement in the U.S.
>>77766469
I hated Schindler's List, honestly. It was fucking boring
You misunderstand the issue. Americans will accept shooting deaths in exchange for gun ownership, it's really that simple. Show people all the charts and stats you want, that doesn't matter because it's missing the point.
>>77764270
gun deaths includes suicides, which are more than 50% of gun deaths universally. If you take away guns people will choose rope, knives, or starvation.
>>77766617
There is outrage. It's just suppressed in the MSM.
>>77766660
Fair enough, but the point still stands.
>>77765387
This guy gets it. Niggers are the loose link. Aztecs and Mayans too. It's like looking at Japan's low crime rate without factoring in the Japanese people.
>>77764270
>Damn near every country in the world is populated by slaves
Feels good to be an American. Hopefully one day the rest of the world can figure out why the second amend is so important.
>>77765449
"a well regulated militia" refers to the ability of Southern states to conduct slave patrols else they wouldn't join the union.
>>77766859
It was pretty muted even on staunchly pro-gun or right-wing sites. They didn't even gin up enough outrage to force one resignation, let alone getting all the bastards involved fired.
>>77764270
>ban guns
>gun deaths decrease
>every other form of death increases in proportion
Wow it's fucking nothing!
>>77764737
Oh the meme is "flawed" yeah I'm sure it is.
>>77764688
Wait, wait, wait, wait... so you what you are saying is... the homicide rate decreased at the exact rate it had been for the last couple decades and banning guns didn't accelerate it? Break out the presses people!
Also, mass killings are still happening at the same rate, now people just use fire. Or guns.
>>77766814
Suicides by gun are 2/3 of all U.S. gun deaths, which are included in any tally of "gun violence"
The U.S. has an annual suicide rate of 12.1 per 100,000 and the highest civil firearms ownership in the world.
South Korea has an annual suicide rate of 28.9 per 100,000 and a COMPLETE BAN on civil firearm ownership.
>>77764270
>130 studies in 10 countries prove gun control is highly effective
Hmm and the ten countries that were studied carefully DID NOT include....... Switzerland? Mexico? Cambodia? Nazi Germany?
>>77767178
you really think that Switzerland's low homicide rate is because of it's GUN CONTROL?
>>77767045
Oddly enough, NPR was pretty torqued off.
>>77767408
Nope. It's just a funny coincidence.
>>77764270
>Tries to use the wording of the 2nd amendment against us
>Doesn't even know what it means
>makes a fool out of himself
>people are still replying to this failure
>>77767453
>>77764270
As a south african who had to leave because of how bad it got, you can go fuck yourself you commie nigger loving piece of shit
>>77764270
>>77764270
>trend of declining homicide continues after gin ban and then levels out completely
wow, it's almost like it didn't make any difference
>>77767545
I don't know about you, but I'm using this thread as an excuse to dump all the pro gun stuff I have.
Can one of you gun grabbers tell me the gun death rate in my country? Any citizen above 18 can go and buy a double barreled shotgun or a bolt or lever action rifle. You'd think people here would be dropping like flies.
>>77764560
>obvious b8
>no one can tell it's bait because cons believe retarded shit
>>77767796
>>77767698
It must be torture to have to leave your country, and then see your women fucking the people who made you leave. Not saying this as a cuck fetish, just pointing out how perfidious women are.
![Screen+Shot+2013-08-29+at++Thursday,+August+29,+7.32+PM+1[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/1lx9uPi.jpg "Screen+Shot+2013-08-29+at++Thursday,+August+29,+7.32+PM+1[1].png")
>gun homicides drop
>they get replaced by other forms of murder
>say gun control worked
>>77764270
irrelevent
blood for the blood god
>>77764270
>NRA
>shillbucks
LOL
The leftist anti-gun brigade literally has billions more.
>>77767912
>>77764270
The right to own firearms shall not be infringed. Period. What is with all the cucks shitposting on /pol/ as of late?
>>77764737
>Politifact
Kill yourself.
>>77768023
>>77764270
Also, the gun control lobby full of Jews.
No guns for goyim!
Seems reminiscent of how the Bolsheviks were so eager to disarm goyim.
>>77767796
Love but wish it was smoother.
>>77764270
>gun deaths
out the window
50% of these gun grabber argument hinge on poor selection of variables that conflate relevant with irrelevant statistics or otherwise obfuscate the reality of the situation and the other 50% hinge on faulty sample spaces. I'm actually sick of seeing this shitty bait threads on the catalog now because every time they do the same shit they don't even make it difficult to debunk. They just do it to get a whole bunch of replies from people too stupid to sage (probably to slide a 'problematic' topic off the back page of the board).
>>77765022
>I'm just on vacation now.
either the mods actually did their jobs for once or you ran like the scumbag coward you are.
>>77767893
Leftist believe some retarded shit too, like mass-immigration being good for the working class.
>>77764270
>Studies in South Africa showed
They also showed crime go through the roof with emancipated niggers, but you ignore those studies, don't ya?
>>77768060
>>77764270
>muh, muh US has the most gun deaths!
60% of US gun deaths are suicides; and it's the same relative amount of suicide as other countries like the UK and Japan, they just kill themselves in more gruesome ways because they can't get guns.
The US is also 111th in murder-per-capita. Countries like Mexico, Venezuela, and Brazil with strict-as-fuck gun laws still have higher murder rates. The reason we have lots of murders is because of shitskins; which leftists want to import more of for some reason.
The major city in the US with the lowest murder rate is Plano, Texas - where lots of people are gun owners, and the gun laws are lax.
>we can take ur guns away if we want, you don't need big magazines, etc.
The Supreme Court case of Heller v. Disctrict of Columbia already ruled that owning a semi-automatic gun is a Constitutional right:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller
From a philosophical/Constitutional perspective, gun ownership should be a right. The Preamble to the Constitution states that people have a right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". If citizens have a right to life, that means that they should have a right to defend their life by adequate means. Women, old people, and the disabled can't defeat a gang of dindus in melee combat - thus, guns are necessary.
>b-b, but, you don't need guns because you have cops!
The Supreme Court Case Warren v District of Columbia ruled that the police do not have a duty to risk their life to protect you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
Also, aren't you lefty types always shitting on the cops? I thought if a cop gets anywhere near you, it would trigger you.
>Stefan Molyneux shits on gun control:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hyQDQPEsrs
>Bill Whittle shits on gun control:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE
Also, gun control is a form of eugenics; since most gun deaths are from criminals killing each-other.
>>77764270
>Gun deaths
Of course it would go down you fucking retard.
>>77768287
What will stop the drug cartels from smuggling guns after the ban?Hillary Clinton bridges?
>gun deaths
lol nice try. A for effort.
>>77764270
>gun deaths
gotta inflate those statistics with suicides right?
>>77767273
>wars did not kill anyone in the USA during the 1900s
what about pearl harbor
>>77764737
>(((Politifact)))
Liar liar, kikes on fire.
>>77767796
can you also dump all the lamia stuff you have too while you're at it
>>77768418
>>77764688
>comparing a developing nation to a wealthy European one
>Honduras
>developing
Bitch, please. The only thing Honduras is developing is a greater level of fucked-uppedness.
The point is that it has NOTHING to do with the firearm and EVERYTHING to do with the fuckers who get access to it.
One is a mostly homogeneous white country loaded with guns and almost no gun deaths.
The other is full of brown people who -- lo and behold -- tend to shoot the fuck out of anything that moves.
A gun is an inanimate object.
Niggers are not.
>>77764270
>Evidence from 130 studies in 10 countries suggests that in certain nations the simultaneous implementation of laws targeting multiple firearms restrictions is associated with reductions in firearm deaths.
wtf is this wording?
>>77768418
Saved and retweeted.
>>77764270
>south Africa under apertheid:
Average of 415 deaths by police each year for 40 years.
>south Africa under mandela:
Average of 23,000 deaths by police each year every year for 8 years.
Ya, sure dude.
>>77768060
Schools were integrated.
>>77768647
On my phone. All the Lamia stuff is on the desktop. Sorry.
>>77764270
But the murder rate stayed the same.
Also, stop worrying about American gun laws. It is none of your business.
>>77764270
Let's dispel with this fiction that I care about reducing gun deaths.
>>77764270
>Implying all of those deaths are because of crime, and don't have anything to do with stuff such as hunting accidents.
>>77766889
It's mainly because bandits don't respect the law (such surprise) and buy illegal guns instead, meanwhile the good citizens become easy preys without guns.
>>77768772
White people run things => peace, order and prosperity.
Niggers push the whites out => violent, post-apocalyptic, dystopian hellscape
>>77768751
You can add the main reason it wasn't adopted by the early U.S. army was cost. The Lewis and Clark expedition carried two of them.
>>77766096
Ban assault pools now!
>>77769042
>>77764270
No one is saying gun control won't necessarily lower gun related deaths between violent idiots, that's not the point of the argument
We are saying that we have the right to defend ourselves, and we are going to do it regardless of whether or not a criminal uses a gun or a knife or a bomb to try to hurt others.
Guess how many "gun related deaths" a non armed civilian population will have when their government or another government or a terrorist group attacks them?
(Hint: a lot higher than an armed population)
>>77764270
You retards. The US has seen an almost equivalent decline in murders over the same period while doing away with Clinton's faggot assault weapons ban.
> suicide is inelastic.
> accidents happen.
> train your kids to respect weapons
>>77769179
>>77768827
why would you do this to me
Can you please stop using my nations retarded guns laws as a reference point in a anti gun argument! murder rate is the same my ability to defend my self is more fucked than before. and gun violence is still happening daily criminals are shooting people, including kids shooting cops in the middle of sydney.
please just stop!!
please stop!!
please!!!
NZ has similar laws to our pre 96 laws and they haven't had a mass shooting since 1990
>thinks social studies are reliable
HA HA HA HA
>>77764270
taking guns away stops gun deaths? well golly gee, who woulda thunk!?
does it stop violent crime?
>>77764270
>austrailia gun deaths
>murder rates stay the same
that means gun control did nothing
>>77769326
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx23c84obwQ
>>77764270
Because gun control in south africa stopped niggers from having guns...
>>77764270
>http://epirev.oxfordjournals.org/content/38/1/140.abstract
>Firearm related injuries
Are you fucking serious with these metrics?
>>77769337
I'm genuinely sorry. I love lamias.
http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.html
FUCKING WEW
Don't shitpost on me!
>>77766130
came here to post this
/thread
OP rekt as fuck
>>77768633
look them up for 2014 and 2012
>>77764270
Wow you're right OP, I'm now a #RowleyShaman
>>77769419
>Yeah but muh pistol grip & barrel shroud.
>>77764270
Notice that it was on decline anyway in Australia. It would have reached the levels we have today regardless of gun control. You fucking idiot, it's like these studies were done by kids who just learn't how to read graphs.
Gun control wasn't effective in Australia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUomd-I6rqo
This dude breaks it down bit by bit. There is a short version of the presentation on his channel if you have ADHD.
>>77764270
Sorry but I can't believe that. Brazil was much safer before guns were banned.
>>77764270
Okay, now show the statistics for other kinds violence.
>>77766363
>suspected of selling
They tried to entrap him into selling a gun with a shorter than legal barrel. He refused so they just raided him anyway. Clinton is responsible for this and all these love and peace liberals want him back.
>>77769772
The thing that goes up?
>>77764270
You're from fucking Trinidad and Tobago. Why the fuck do you care how our country is with guns?
>>77764270
>says gun control is effective
>posts graph proving that it isn't
>Look at this chart that proves gun deaths go down when there are less guns!
>Don't look at violent crime rates or homicide rates though, just look at specifically gun deaths because it only matters if a gun was used.
>>77769919
Waco was Clinton. Ruby Ridge was George H. W. "New World Order" Bush.
Remember, until the early 2000's, gun control was a bipartisan issue.
>>77770245
>>77770397
>>77768526
>in the USA
A- Hawaii is outconus, and B- Hawaii was not a US state in 1941, more like an offshore military base.
And C- why don't they trumpet the glory of gun control in safe mexico?
>>77770496
>>77764270
Man, it's almost like it was on the decline before gun control. Really makes you think...
>>77766130
Actually, it's worse than that.
>>77764270
>Well-regulated
In working order and well trained, fucking dipshit.
>>77770660
Battery running low. Last post for now.
Why in the fuck are these threads allowed to be posted over and over and over again?
>>77770009
(((hip fire)))
>US has loose gun laws
>Japan has strict gun laws
>US has infinitely more homicides/violent crime than Japan does
defend that, gunfags.
>>77772569
>Muh honor!
>Muh Freedumbs
>>77772569
japan isnt full of niggers and spics, but you seem to be forgetting that they have criminal organizations so powerful that they can basically operate in the open
>>77772990
how about you operate this out in the open *whips out penis*
>>77764270
>Gun ownership has no correlation with homicide, suicide, assault, violent crime, or rape rates
What did he mean by this?
>>77773272
you forgot gun deaths
>>77764270
It's not really your fucking problem
Studies in 10 countries that are not the United States demonstrate that gun control may be effective in those 10 countries. Wow. It's as if the US isn't geographically and culturally distinct from those nations, with both a larger population and more significant proliferation of firearms.
Kill yourself with a legal weapon.
>>77773386
Does it matter if you're shot to death or stabbed to death?
it only cut them in half? that's not encouraging.
>>77768366
>Dubs
Keep the hood safe H
I fucking love hickok45. Drives my gun envy wild.
>>77764737
>politi"""""fact"""""
out out out
>>77774362
no, I meant gun ownership doesnt correlate with gun deaths
>You missed the first part where it says "WELL-REGULATED militia". The government does have the power to regulate guns
DC vs Heller
>>77769360
Funny how there is a greater percentage of Australians that are supporting American gun rights on this board than there are Americans doing the same.
Nice image by the way. Saved three times.
>>77774622
oh also forgot that gun deaths fell at a faster rate in the US for that same time period if i remember right
>>77764938
Australian in Korea here.
Gun violence didn't really decrease significantly. It was already reducing due to the urbanisation and suburbanisation of Australia (people moving from regional and rural areas to cities).
BUT what HAS happened in Australia since 1996 was a massive growth in government intrusion into people's lives.
Australia is extremely heavily regulated and the government is massively overreaching when it comes to personal freedoms.
Every other form of violence has increased since 1996 also.
Personally I feel much safer and much more free in Korea - a country technically still at war - than I do in Australia.
My advice to Americans, particularly with the executive overreach happening with Obama, don't give up your guns. Don't surrender to any more restrictions on any weapons or Ammo. And use your guns if necessary to protect that right. That is what the 2nd amendment is for.
A well regulated militia, (people knowing how to use weapons should they need to fight), is necessary for a free state. The only way people can know how to use their weapons is if they are able to own them.
Don't give up your rights.
>>77764270
It appears your chart was already on a downward trend. Also, where is the graph of subsequent rise in deaths from other instruments?
>>77764270
So gun deaths went down in South Africa but what about the actual homicide rate?
>>77764270
and australia got a much higher population after too
>>77764270
>You missed the first part where it says "WELL-REGULATED militia". The government does have the power to regulate guns
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"
It says nothing about the right of the militia to keep and bear arms. It says everything about the right of the people to keep and bear arms, you statist cuck
Fuck the presidential election. Theyre all shit
>>77777628
True, but we have to pick someone for the next 4 years.
>>77768366
OP is now looking for a gun to commit suicide with.
>>77766020
>suppressor
>making guns more quiet
Shut the fuck up retard you have no idea what you're talking about their purpose to cover up muzzle flash
>>77764270
I'm from Chicago, everyone who isn't from here talks about our murder rate like it's a bad thing.
In reality, it's inner city nigs killing each other off. Good riddance!
>>77769840
You got a source for that?
All the liberals I know say Australia stayed down with violence and kept going down after the ban.
>>77779392
it's gone down everywhere. that image is horseshit
>>77764270
Wow who knew gun control meant less gun deaths...
Dumbass.
Less guns will of course equal less death by guns but not overall deaths. Criminals will either still get guns or use knives or whatever else they can grab
>>77764270
>decline in gun crime after guns are banned
>no mention of other violent crime
Yeah, troll thread. Sage and report.
>>77768366
>From a philosophical/Constitutional perspective, gun ownership should be a right. The Preamble to the Constitution states that people have a right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". If citizens have a right to life, that means that they should have a right to defend their life by adequate means. Women, old people, and the disabled can't defeat a gang of dindus in melee combat - thus, guns are necessary.
IMO this is the only argument you need against gun grabbers. To be anti-gun is to be anti-man.
>>77766130
Maybe it's because I don't know shit about graphs, but it looks like you're confirming that yes, gun murders have decreased since guns were banned.
>>77780902
The graph shows that gun murders were decreasing before the ban.
>>77772569
japan has almost no niggers
the US has a shitload of niggers
after subtracting nigger crime, the US firearms murder rate is lower than luxembourg's
>>77764270
there should be rule for people not in the U.S. to talk U.S. politics like they know anything
>>77766961
Considering this was written before the "southern states" existed, I find your statement fallacious.
>>77764270
>Trinidad
You have no voice here.
>gun control
A measure of government.
Since no two government's are alike or have similar to same conditions, how would you suggest that these studies are effective?
They're not. Go fuck a fajita or something.
>>77779114
......
>>77764737
The "its poverty" meme.
>>77764270
>He gave up his guns for a measly 300 deaths a year.
>>77764270
We really need to consider an answer to the liberal question.
It's getting to be intolerable.
it also says THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE. why am i even bothering with this bait shit?
>>77767178
>US pours free guns into mexican cartel's hands
>blames mexicans
>>77764270
BREAKING NEWS: BANNING ALL GUNS LOWERS GUN RELATED DEATHS
MEANWHILE HOMICIDE RATE SPIKED IN AUSTRALIA AFTER THE BAN THEN RETURNED TO PREBAN RATE
FUCK KEKS THAT USE AUSTRALIA AS AN EXAMPLE OF MUH GUN CONTROL
>>77764270
Do a study on diversity control.
Separate whites from coloreds
>>77764270
>WELL-REGULATED militia
not what you think it means
Maximum people saved =/= better society.
You could keep everyone in cages and force feed them, no one would die then.
>>77790126
Don't give our statists ideas, m8.
>>77764270
before the ban gun crime was dropping.....
>>77764626
doesnt mention most gun murders are in areas with strict gun laws
>>7776427
clearly in a downtrend when law is enacted...
I credit gun-education for Abos.
>>77764270
>gun deaths
sure kiddo have fun playing with stats
>>77776066
Yep, went from 17 million people to 24 million and total gun-deaths are STILL DROPPING.
GUN FAGS BTFO.
>here it say "well regulated milita"
>don't mind the "neccessary for a free state" stuff
>lets twist it to mean government regulated i.e. the Queen which is exactly the opposite point of the militia
>now the 2nd means you are allowed to bear arms in the Queens army not that you are allowed to own and keep your arms to form regulated militias that are needed to protect your freedom and a free state
>>77775611
Fuck off, not only did overall gun deaths begin dropping at over double the previous rate as OP shows, the use of firearms in homicide is now only a 3rd of what it was before the laws. Not to mention our overall homicide rate is literally the LOWEST IT'S EVER BEEN, half what it was before the reforms. You'd have to be completely delusional to think the laws weren't a good idea. Also, our overall violent crime rate is also at record lows. STOP SPREADING ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT. BURN YOUR PASSPORT ASAP, YOU'RE NOT WANTED.
>notably absent: south and central Americas
>firearm related injuries
Cherry picked statistics.
>>77764270
>Studies in South Africa showed a decline in gun deaths after gun control measures were passed. Gun control does keep guns out of the hands of violent blacks.
Excuse me? Source?
>>77775570
>Fell at a faster rate.
Your homicide rate has dropped from 5.5/100,000 to 4.5/100,000 in 16 years. 70% of those homicides involve guns. In the last 16 years in Australia, our homicide rate has gone from 2/100,000 to 1.1/100,000 aka virtually halved, with only just over 10% involving guns. FUCK OFF.
>>77764270
Let me guess- this factors in suicides?
>>77796838
Who'd think that corrupt 3rd world countries would be unable to enforce the gun laws they introduce? It's really pathetic that you have to compare yourself to 3rd world countries anyway, have you forgotten you're the richest country in the world? Compare yourself to places with functioning Governments for once. Oh wait, you get BTFO whenever you do that, sorry.
>>77764270
>this is all thanks to gun ban and has no other reasons like increasing wealth and better security measures
>ignore murder rates with other tools
>ignore murder rates with other tools compared to gun abuse
>study
>we made a survey to claim we have proof for our already predetermined conclusions
>>77796956
See>>77767963
Totally because of gun control.
>>77797087
Of course it does
>>77796879
The chart records total firearm deaths. That is literally the opposite of cherry-picking, what the fuck Netherlands.
>>77764270
>gun deaths
I wonder what happens if you look at all homicide :^)
>>77797151
How retarded are you? Did you miss the part how our OVERALL homicide rates are half what they were before the laws? And are literally the lowest ever recorded in our country? Is it a requirement that guntards are unable to read or something?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-31329220
>>77797170
It is cherry picking because people start using other means.
Most of those firearms related deaths are suicides, majority of those suicides now happen through other means.
Homocide rates in Australia didn't start dropping all the way up to 2002.
Years after the gun ban.
>>77797305
So homocide rates not dropping until 2002, years after the gun ban means it's because of the gun ban.
Sure thing shitposter.
>>77797228
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/23/crime-rate-ons-lowest-level-england-wales-police
Yeah, nice graph you just made up, but it's entirely wrong.
>>77764270
You seem to miss that it says well-regulated militia not well-regulated right to bear arms.
>>77764560
>Not using the factual one
>>77797393
My source - https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/historical-crime-data
Your source - "trump is wrong because if you forget about the jihadis mia or killed, more muslims joined the uk army than isis"
>>77764270
>another 'study' that claims gun control is effective as a whole because it reduces GUN RELATED deaths
Huh
Really made me drop that shit
>>77764270
the only reason south Africa had a decrease in gun crime is because there are no whites,to fix broken guns. Mandela niggers can't even get their resources out of the ground.
Face it.,Nignogs cannot create or maintain a country without whitey.
>>77797378
You really are retarded. The 1996 laws were not just a gun ban. They also included far stronger licensing and storage requirements. Thus, far less guns now make their way into the black market and criminal hands. Of course it takes a few years for such laws to take effect, as there were already guns in the black market. However, the laws mean that as black market guns are found by police, they are not able to be replaced at anywhere near the same rate as they were before, thus leading to the incredibly consistent drop in firearm-related and overall crime we have seen since the laws. The US' homicide rate stopped declining significantly after 1999. Ours has continued at the same rate to this day. 5000 guns per year were stolen in the 90s. That number is now 5x lower. Please, think before you post, Netherlands.
Makes you think
>>77797943
>they are not able to be replaced at anywhere near the same rate as they were before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz8mlB1hZ-o
>>77797582
Also forgetting that your mandatory militia service also includes mandatory criminal and mental health checks, thus almost the entire population gets thoroughly vetted. Try getting that past the NRA LOL. Also, it's illegal to carry a loaded weapon in public in Switzerland lel, unless you can demonstrate an actual threat to your safety and apply for a special permit.
>>77797943
>overall crime
Of course, everything must be because of the gun ban even though homocide rates didn't start dropping until years after the ban despite there being a downward trend before.
>>77798104
>Also forgetting that your mandatory militia service also includes mandatory criminal and mental health checks
Not related to civilian gun ownership.
>Also, it's illegal to carry a loaded weapon in public in Switzerland lel, unless you can demonstrate an actual threat to your safety and apply for a special permit.
True, but is it the CC permit holders in the USA that are making the crime?
>>77797947
>b-but effects of a ban won't we seen until after a decade
>>77764270
>gun deaths
>>77764560
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>77798170
Um, every adult civilian has to serve in the militia, and thus are subject to these checks. Due to Schengen regulations, if any mental health issues must also be relayed to police, and can prevent you from owning guns. Try getting something like that introduced in America. Even in Australia in effect our laws are far less stringent. The Swiss ones may not be designed for gun control specifically, but the function in exactly the same way.
The US also has many states where you can open carry without a permit. Doing that in Switzerland will get you arrested. The memes implying that the laws in Switzerland are less stringent are utterly false. I am not against gun ownership, I just want it properly regulated. Switzerland does that, the US does not.
>>77764270
if you removed the colouring and the years below no one would be able to tell when the gun law came
>>77798504
Only a small fraction actually go to the army.
The army and the civilian gun ownership have nothing to do with each other.
>>77798141
Of course not everything is due to that; we never had a big gun culture in the first place. But it has undoubtedly reduced criminal access to guns, which can only be a good thing. None of the major US mass shootings could have happened in Australia, that is a fact. We used to have ones just like them, when we let random mental cases buy whatever guns they wanted. Now we don't, and guess what: no public mass shootings for 20 years, as opposed to 14 in 18 years prior to the laws.
>>77798609
Um what: "Switzerland has mandatory military service"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Switzerland
What are you talking about?
>>77796802
gonna need you to drop some sources on
>overall gun deaths begin dropping at over
>double the previous rate as OP shows
because I don't see that at all...
As for the rest of what you said, the graph indicates the use of fire arms in homicide potentially could have dropped even faster without those laws.
>>77764270
Regulated "MILITIA", has nothing to do with with GUN regulations, FUCKTARD
>>77798504
You have guns regulated in your country. You just enjoy that shit and don't worry about what we're doing on this side of the Pacific.
>>77798725
It's limited to a certain amount of soldiers.
Do you actually think we put every male into the army?
>>77798867
You force us to be involved when your NRA publishes blatantly false information about our laws, claiming our violent crime is at record highs, when in fact our homicide and overall violent crime has literally never been lower, and the percentage of criminals using guns has also coincidentally never been lower.
>>77764270
nobody cares what you think nigger, there will be no gun control until every shitskin is gone and even then it will be restrictions at best.
>>77799006
We don't force you to do shit. Talking about you doesn't mean we're gonna roll in and take away your gun ban. Just don't worry about what we're doing with guns over here.
>>77780902
>Maybe it's because I don't know shit about graphs
Yep, see
>>77780978
>>77798895
"Switzerland has mandatory military service (German: Militärdienst; French: service militaire; Italian: servizio militare) in the Swiss Army for all able-bodied male citizens, who are conscripted when they reach the age of majority"
Note how it says "ALL able-bodied male citizens". So yes, unless you're disabled, you're going to go through checks and assessments of your mental and physical health, as well as your criminal record. 20% are found unfit for service, which is testament to the stringent assessment process. So basically, the Swiss Government has the mental health records of every citizen as soon as they turn 18, whether they like it or not.
>>77764270
Gun deaths in USA are decreasing too
Holy shit...4chan/pol/ is cucked to fuck. You've basically let yourself be overtaken by leftist faggots and feminists.
>gun deaths
Nice suicide chart you have there.
>>77799293
Not even 65 % of young males do there service in the army.
gun control works you dumb fucks, just give up your penis proxy toys.
>>77799293
>lemme tell you about your country
Seriously, not everyone goes to the service and it^s not mandatory to do it in order to own guns.
