/pol/ If socialism doesn't work how do you explain Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Germany, Finland etc. They are happier, healthier, living longer, make more money, take more vacation time, no medical or student debt and don't have to worry about going to a movie, university, nightclub or sending their children to school and having a mass murder
>>77752861
balance
>>77752861
>>77752861
They took the war and race identity out of fascism and called it social democracy. Social Democrats before WWII were a near left party that opted for full socialism rather than a state capitalist halfway house.
Germany and Japan are economically fascist.
>>77752861
>They are happier, healthier, living longer, make more money, take more vacation time, no medical or student debt and don't have to worry about going to a movie, university, nightclub or sending their children to school and having a mass murder
We can have all of that, or more like, we could have had all of that, but, you know, our country is 40% nigger. Give those countries you listed a couple more decades of mass immigration from 3rd world countries and their socialist programs will collapse.
>>77752861
Smaller population in comparison to the natural resources. And even then, the people became panda bears who didn't want to breed and fight for their country. The only time socialism ever works is when it turns he populace decadent. I'll stick with the risk and reward of capitalism while advocating nationalist trade and immigration policies.
>>77753367
Niggers are only 13% of the population. Spics/Beaners are out biggest minority. Sorry to be a sperg, but I don't want foreigners to actually believe that.
>>77752861
white homogeneity. That's the only correct answer
>>77752861
Allahu Akbar
>>77752861
Gosh what do all of those counties have in common, except for a more homogenous society socially, ethnically, and socio-economically?
>>77752861
There is also a white majority
Funny how that works
>>77752861
>Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Germany, Finland
here you go op
>>77752861
Fuck off, scum
>>77752861
It helps a bit not having to spend hundreds of billions on your own defense
>>77752861
>Norway
North sea oil money with a low population
>Denmark
See above
>Sweden
Again
>Germany
Laws designed to abuse workers rights in order to remain competitive with places like china, also access to a closed market. If anything this is an example of something that is certainly not socialist economic theory.
>Finland
A hole, this place doesnt even count as "socialist"
Overall the secret is low population with income that is not tied to the population
Literally none of those countries are Socialist you dumbfaggot
Also the welfare state of all those countries won't sustain itself longer with tens of thousands of refugees coming in.
>>77753702
>>77752861
Exactly this
You US guys will never be able to pull it off because you have minorities that see the state as as something they should Milk as much money from as possible rather than contributing to it
You have too many dead weight niggers and illegals
>>77752861
It's because they're white dumbass
Ethnicity >>>> economic system
>make more money
ahahahaha!
>>77752861
They are culturally and ethnically homogenous.
Make America Great Again, then we talk about communism.
It works but im broken inside
>>77753541
>Smaller population in comparison to the natural resources.
Plus, not niggers or other POC to contend with...until recently that is. Add niggers to the equation and watch your precious Socialism crumble.
>>77754165
It's not about homogeneity, it's about being white.
A society that's homogenous Ethiopian is going to suck ass.
A society that's mixed between Germans and Swedes is going to be wealthy
>>77752861
>explain Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Germany, Finland
Less than half of one percent of their combined populations is black. Try importing several tens of thousands of American nigger into those countries and then see how quickly their socialism collapses the entire economy.
inb4
>not REAL socialism
and then they go back to the other threads posting
>universal health care? DATS GOMMUNISM END OF SOCIETY REMEMBER THE 30 GORILLION
THEY'RE HOMOGENEOUS SOCIETIES
SAME VALUES
SAME IDEALS
>>77752861
Theres absolutely no "democracy" in our social democracy.
heres a quick explenation.
all our parties except FRP is pro immigration, FRP is gaining like a motherfucker on anti immigration ticket.
however at the same time FRP also put our financial sector under EU compliance so now our finances are under EU control(this was last week).
So dont buy into the Scandinavian socialist heaven meme, we have no say in the matter, controlled opposition has made our politics a nightmarish catch 22.
Oh did i mention FRP is also pro israel?
Im not an AP faggot, im just angry the last real party we had was NS.
>Be Jews
>Destroy several nations with socialism
>Try to instill it on more nations to destroy them
>They thrive by adapting it with democracy
>Quickly rethink how to destroy those countries
>SJW plague happens and mass immigration commences overburdening the welfare system.
Even if it works, you'll lose.
>>77754290
>Try importing several tens of thousands of American nigger into those countries and then see how quickly their socialism collapses the entire economy.
Soon. (Except arabs as well)
>>77752861
Free market welfare states. Try using Cuba or Venezuela as an example.
Scandinavia countries have a small population and abundant natural resources. The US has a relatively large population, and laws and regulations make it hard to use our natural resources.
>>77754417
lol not for long.
>>77754558
The USA also has tons of 80 IQ blacks and 85 IQ Mexicans
>>77754533
Cuba's just as successful
>>77753367
Niggers are less than 15% but your point is still valid. We're going to see the end of socialism and the severe curtailing of social democracy in our lifetimes. Native Europeans aren't going to want to pay for a robust public sector subsidizing those who do not pay into it and who refuse to even identify with their 'host' nation.
>>77752861
If black people work, how do you explain Detroit, Flint, New Orleans...
>>77752861
Socialism is inevitable. When 3+ million transportation jobs and even more service industry jobs become automated, Americans are going to be crying out for "gibs" while they starve to death. Good thing they supported Trump like the memes told them too! :^)
>>77753702
Is that why Ukraine and Belarus (100% white) are so much better than Sweden (80%) white? you fucking dickbag
>>77752861
White Christian homogeneous non-Marxist and successfully capitalist before they were socialist.
The difference between socialism and capitalism is the difference between Sweden and the USA
The difference between whites and blacks is the difference between the USA and Zimbabwe
Race matters much much much more than economic system.
White people are always going to be relatively wealthy, because they know how to manage their day to day lives. They keep their houses painted, their delivery schedules on time, their workplaces organized.....etc
>>77752861
I can explain your asinine query in a single word: wealth. Large government wealth and small homogeneous populations makes for easy governing.
>>77754750
Too many guns in a concentrated area meaning that it's too dangerous and all the rich people end up leaving.
>>77752861
Problem is, our country isn't comprised of Danes and Nordics. It is ridiculous to even try to compare the living standards of the US to those companies. Germany? They are poor trash. If Germany was a US state, it would rank about 30th in per capita GDP. Euroshits pay much higher taxes on similar salaries, and have higher prices on everything due to VAT. US has bigger homes, larger properties, more vehicle ownership, more EVERYTHING. And we do it with the handicap of niggers and MExicans. Euros live packed like sardines into shitty little apartments, in shitty, overcrowded cities, and most homes and businesses don't even have air conditioning. Life in Europe has always been shittier. People voluntarily moved to an unknown continent filled with dnger and uncertainty, because risking being scalped by an Indian or eaten by a bear was preferable to living as a serf in Europe. I'll take my house, by big yard, my 8 cylinder car and gun over any of the advantages europoors supposedly have. By American standards, Europeans are all po white trash.
>>77755119
It's not about homogeneity, it's about being white
Kenya is homogeneously poor
>>77755013
>because they know how to manage their day to day lives
That is so true. Management skills are highly underrated. Knowing that keeping your house in good order and your neighbors doing the same helps to keep your property value high which directly affects the value of most families' biggest financial asset.
Neither Denmark nor Sweden nor any other place you mentioned are purely socialist states. They BORROW aspects of socialism like healthcare and wealth. There are a million things wrong with those countries and Sweden is now the rape capital of Europe because of their leftist policies and love of uncontrolled immigration.
>>77752861
All the answers in this thread are wrong. The correct answer is they were all free market havens prior to being socialist states. Their standard of living increased during their free market phase.
>>77755319
wealth = welfare
>>77754712
>successful
Elaborate, plz.
>>77755328
Is there a single white country on this planet that's poor?
What was South Africa like when it was managed by whites, compared to when it's managed by blacks?
It doesn't matter what economic system you have. Could be monarchy, could be capitalism, could even be socialism. If your society is composed of high IQ, high trust genes it will always be relatively wealthy
>>77752861
Hmm, do the only places where mixed socialism seems to work are ethnically homogeneous germanic countries? How interesting! What's that? These countries are having problem and their social services are being overwhelmed conveniently at the same time as they start importing millions of muslims into their countries?
No conclusions we can make from this! no sir
>>77754275
This, TBQH family.
White people build the best societies (with some Asians a close second). The degree to which an ostensibly white country stagnates is generally proportional to the degree to which the population is contaminated by brown/black people.
It's why millions and millions of brown people all over the world risk life and limb to relocate to someplace white.
We build it. They come to steal it.
>>77755553
m8 Cuba is a small island economy that's been under economic blockade for 50 years, of course it's economy is gonna suck.
What matters far more than economic system is race. Cubans have an average IQ in the low 90's, Chinese have an average IQ over 105
>>77755206
>americans being retarded
>>77755700
>small island economy
...and what is Hong Kong? Even after '99 they still operate with a large degree of independence from the mainland.
Also, there's no blockade of Cuba. There was a trade embargo that was only honored by the US and no one else.
>>77753822
>>77755553
Compare Cuba to Puerto Rico. The US has had control of PR for well over 100 years (since 1898) and it is a basket case. It is bankrupt with over $80 billion in debt, a poverty rate at over over 45%, and real unemployment rate over 20%. Cuba has a lower infant mortality rate and a longer life expectancy that does PR. In fact Cuba, which has been embargoed by the US for over 50 years, has social indicators on par with the world’s most developed nations in categories such as literacy, infant mortality, life expectancy, healthcare quality and coverage, and educational access. On the other hand PR lags far behind even though it has the great American capitalist economic model to emulate. Cuba is a phenomenal success if you actually look into it and don't buy into US propaganda
>The "nordic countries are socialist" meme strikes again
>>77752861
oil money
>>77755677
The only exception outside Europe seems to be the japanese.
The chinese and koreans almost are human too, but not quite.
>>77753822
Holy hell, you are a damn lovable genious, burger.
Saved, and i will spread it whenever applicable .
>>77755563
>Is there a single white country on this planet that's poor?
The Communist shitholes.
>What was South Africa like when it was managed by whites, compared to when it's managed by blacks?
I have no idea, what was it like? If we are going by gdp growth then it's pretty much the same.
>>77752861
They rely on a capitalist economy to pay for those socialized programs.
>>77752861
those countries are the most white countries. that's why they are the most successful. They had very high standards of living well before socialist policies were enacted.
>>77755928
Fair enough. But do they have any skyscrapers?
>>77756114
The "communist shitholes" you refer to are all slavic.
Slavs as you might know are a white-oriental mix with an IQ in the mid 90's.
Besides that, the genocides and pogroms were largely carried out by Jews, who overwhelmingly ran the Russian government.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUMwgsy6ZD4
Scandi countries were already prosperous from monarchy/capitalism, natural resources and good culture from before. Scandi countries remained wealthy despite socialism. That's slowly changing now as socialism degrades prosperity.
>>77756148
>Sweden
>white
Pick one
>>77755894
Hong Kong is a part of China you know
>>77756225
What does it matter? They actually retained their national culture and didn't have it sucked it out of them through globalization and becoming a US puppet state.
>>77756359
>itz da jubs!!
You're just pissed off they have a higher iq so technically to your perspective that should make them the master race.
>>77755206
Well said
>>77752861
Without us protecting them their defense cost would go through the roof and would have to cancel many of their social programs
>>77752861
>happier
Europeans are on antidepressants at a much higher rate than Americans
>healthier
except for the fact that Americans have the best cancer survival rates
>living longer
only because of infant mortality rates. in the US anything that is birthed and dies is counted. In Europe, if a baby dies in the first 3 weeks it isn't counted. That's literally the only reason Europeans can gloat about the US infant mortality rate, because we're honest about it.
>make more money
False, average american makes more money than the average Euro, $52,00 vs $48,000 after monetary conversions (and pays less in taxes)
>take more vacation time, no medical or student debt
and they can afford that shit because we pay for their military protection
>>77752861
Sweden healthier... maybe before the invasion
i wouldn't call being gangraped by dune coons healthy anon
>>77756682
If socialism is to prove itself superior to capitalism, it needs to show it has enough energy and resources to waste away, obviously. What better way than great big shiny phallic symbolism?
>>77756612
Geographically it is connected to the mainland, however for decades it operated under British law and since '99 has been allowed a great degree of economic autonomy. Hong Kong has been an "island" of capitalism for decades and the results speak for themselves.
>>77757144
That money is spent on the people's wellbeing. They have no desire to show off to capitalists
>>77757182
The people who actually work in Hong Kong are poor as fuck
>>77756612
Hong Kong isn't a part of china until 2047
>>77757378
And how do they compare to the rest of China? Hong Kong is pretty well off all things considered.
>>77753141
no replies.
tomorrow they will say
>Socialism will save us
this is the level of the Jew beast. Craven, cowardly, pathetic and eternally hypocritical
ITT: retards defend socialism
>>77753687
heh, as if beaners aren't nigger tier shitskins. we are overrun in our largest cities and most populated states. Only a miracle (plague, hitler2.0, bio weapon, act of god) can save us from the hordes of unwashed illiterate shitskin peasants.
>>77757025
>and they can afford that shit because we pay for their military protection
And that is a lie:
A.)European students do end up with debt after university, but don't call it student debt as it's not being used to pay for tuition, it's being used to pay for housing, books, and other stuff you need to actually be able to get your degree.
b,) If debt is incurred outside because your country decided that letting you die was better than saving you because it saves money, it doesn't count either.
>>77757378
What are you on about? Hong Kong's GDP per capita is amongst the highest in the world. They are an island nation with no natural resources yet are a great example of what to follow with a good economic system.
>>77757745
Nothing you said even remotely refuted the fact our military protection keeps Europeans defense spending low.
>>77757562
Considering Hong Kong's income gap is the largest in Asia and one of the highest in the world, not so well. It's easy to say a country is wealthy, but that wealth is concentrated among very few
>>77755928
so? its glorious to put our boots on the neck of inferior goblin like creatures. beaners of all stripes are not human and should be treated like savages. A success would be doubling those rates and killing them for sport, like white man safaris where we hunt beaner goblins.
>>77752861
Those countries are social democratic
True socialism (which has never existed except for a few small areas and short periods of time) will be even better.
>>77757969
That wasn't my point, burgerfat, my point was that it's not true they can afford it, because they actually can't. They simply relabel things and claim everything is dandy while it's easy to see it isn't.
>>77752861
>happier
Waiting for a Finn's response to this.
>>77758054
And yet Cuba beat you out every time you tried lmao
>>77757969
no, he's adding on to my post, not attacking it.
I even read an article about EU students having debt trouble recently, but I can't seem to find it. I just forgot about it until now.
>>77757745
thanks for chiming in
>>77758092
>1 post by this id
>>77752861
They went from fairly free market economies after the war, to mixed economies with hungry welfare programs as round the 70s. They are living off of their nation's past wealth and the crash will soon quicken with the influx off rapefugees.
>>77757971
>muh income inequality
I'm not feeling the bern, bro. That's an entire concept that MAYBE shouldn't even exist imho. The notion of income inequality relays nothing about the lives of average person of Hong Kong versus the lives of the average persons in any other country.
>>77752861
first, they aren't 'socialist' in any meaningful sense
second, they are pretty much homogeneous white countries, and white countries can make pretty any system work to some extent
>>77752861
>how do you explain Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Germany, Finland etc. They are happier, healthier, living longer
They don't have a huge population of farm tools that can talk.
>>77758304
Nigga wait a little longer before pulling that shit.
>>77752861
Let's see if they could still do all that if they didn't have the US footing the bill for most of the NATO defense.
>>77758242
I'm happy.
>>77758256
beaners never did anything clown. beaners are mutants and freaks. hobgoblins that need to be slaughtered to rid the children of nightmares. No one wants to look at those horrid beasts.
>>77757971
Hong Kong actually has wealth. If you compare Communist china before the freeing of markets to free market Hong Kong then Hong Kong wins hands down. At least there was wealth in Hong Kong then.
>>77758332
Brazil and Hong Kong have big income gaps, but I'm willing to bet that the average Hong Konger is better off than the average Brazilian
>>77757971
this
>>77752861
>/pol/ If socialism doesn't work how do you explain Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Germany, Finland etc. They are happier, healthier, living longer, make more money, take more vacation time, no medical or student debt and don't have to worry about going to a movie, university, nightclub or sending their children to school and having a mass murder
They are (were) ethnically homogenous collectivist states. The US is too individualist.
also, those states are capitalist with social programs, not socialist.
If you want to see how social programs affect an American community, look at how blacks were doing in the 60s versus now.
>>77758332
Yes, it actually does have statistical significance. That means that GDP per capita isn't a useful statistic to look at.
>>77758290
guess I'll add some sources
>happiness
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/worlds-happiest-countries-take-most-antidepressants
>infant mortality rates
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/10/why-american-babies-die/381008/
>The researchers compared data on infant health and mortality in the U.S.; Austria, whose rate of 3.8 is roughly average among European nations; and Finland, whose rate of 2.3 is one of the lowest in the world. One of the biggest differences, they found, was in the definition of what could be considered a live birth. “Extremely preterm births recorded in some places may be considered a miscarriage or still birth in other countries,” they wrote. Although the chance of survival for babies born before 23 weeks is low (the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that doctors don’t resuscitate babies born before that point), they’re recorded as live births in the U.S.
>“There’s a viability threshold—we basically have never been successful at saving an infant before 22 weeks of gestation,” says Emily Oster, a professor of economics at the University of Chicago and one of the study authors. “When you do comparisons, if other countries are never reporting births before that threshold as live births, that will overstate the U.S. number relative to those other places, because the U.S. is including a lot of the infants who presumably existed as live births.”
>This difference in reporting, they found, accounted for around 40 percent of the U.S.’s relatively high rate compared to Austria and Finland, a result supported by the CDC report—when analysts excluded babies born before 24 weeks, the number of U.S. deaths dropped to 4.2 per 1,000 live births.
>>77752861
i understand now
they're just white enough
>>77758644
The USA has many states which have a higher GDP per Capita than all of those European States.
Germany alone would rank 30th if it were in the USA
>>77758592
Yeah the entire notion of income inequality on disturbs me due to the effects it potentially has on the political process. Socially and economically I can't think of a reason why a large income gap is a bad thing. If the average guy has $10 and a rich guy has $20, then the average guy isn't made better off having $8 so long as the rich guy only has $10. The whole notion is too relativistic for me. The size of the income gap means very little in terms of economic mobility and opportunity for the average person.
>>77758778
For example, the GDP per capita for Hong Kong is $38,000 per year. Looks good until you realize the the median income is only $23,000. That's a pretty heavy statistical shift
>muh income inequality doesn't matter
>>77753853
Basically on the defence of all of NATO except for UK, France and Greece
>>77756029
says the fucking frog
>>77752861
There's a reason I aint living in any of those countries.
Sweden is full of mudslimes.
>>77759235
So what do you plan to do about income inequality? It'll probably be some communist repackaging, liberty destroying feature that makes everyone poorer in the process.
The real thing to look at is social mobility. People earn differing amounts in differing phases of their lives. It's just do they have the opportunity to progress.
>>77753141
>>77757569
From 1999 to 2012 the percentage of Americans on antidepressants increased from 6.8% to 13%
Lol. Nice fact checking.
>>77758242
>>77760293
see http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/worlds-happiest-countries-take-most-antidepressants
>>77758778
>>77759235
I'm not arguing the validity and value of GDP versus median income.
I'm pointing out that for decades Hong Kong has been a bastion of capitalism in a region dominated by communism, socialism, and varying degrees of the global left in general. Hong Kong has prospered and these other places have not. The average guy in Hong Kong is better off than the average guy on the mainland. How is the 'income gap' being narrower on the mainland help the average guy in Hong Kong, or the mainland for that matter?
>>77760604
If the income was concentrated more evenly, Hong Kong would be even more prosperous. How hard is it to see that?
>>77752861
muh freedom > everything else
>>77753949
H-hey y-you s-stop t-that y-you h-hear
>>77760930
That's not hard to see at all. I'm a huge proponent of demand as the source of growth. While redistribution and progressive taxation certainly have their places, particularly in providing public services which serve as investment for the future, there is a point of diminishing returns. Capitalism can accommodate these public services, but those same services are funded through economic growth. So many socialists and others who hold up the 'income gap' as a measure of prosperity are putting the proverbial cart before the horse. Policies promoting opportunity in the private sector is required in order to fund the public sector which in turn creates a virtuous cycle of growth and innovation.
In short the 'income gap' is neither virtue nor vice. It's simply the way things are. It's not a good measure of grown or opportunity.
>>77760496
That's just a consequence of the free healthcare system.
>>77759695
do you have a point to make about denmark or are you just going to shift goalposts all day?
Sweden will be soon added to the list of countries destroyed by socialism. For some it's already on that list.
>>77761716
I don't know shit about denmark but I do know that fact was bullshit so I googled it. Not going to waste my time looking up and refuting facts from a biased statement
if denmark is socialist explain why greenland has the world's highest suicide rate
>>77761157
Truth can be difficult to accept faggot
>>77761969
>i have nothing to contribute to the discussion so i'm just going to act like a pseudointellectual dickhead because that's the only joy i can get out of my pathetic life
k
>>77752861
white
low population
>>77757733
Beaners actually work
>>77762102
Her entire argument was that higher taxes make ppl sad :(((((((((((
But it was intentionally misleading and incorrect. 2% less on antidepressants, not showing the poverty levels etc etc.
Yes less people will be able to afford luxuries, but that's the sacrifice you make for safety nets like they have.
You're projecting so hard right now
>>77752861
Capitalism = Private ownership of the means of production
Socialism = Social/Collective ownership of the means of production
Democratic Socialism = Communal ownership of the means of production. A socialist economic scheme with a democratically run government.
Social Democracy = Fundamentally capitalist society with a large welfare state and high taxation to redistribute wealth. Ex. Scandinavian countries.
In all of those countries, who owns the means of production? The means of production are privately owned. In other words, these countries are fundamentally capitalist.
>>77762406
higher taxes stifle innovation, and (as she mentioned) leads to unemployment, which is hugely detrimental to a society
your nitpicking of a fact related to america has no bearing on the discussion of scandinavian socialism'
try again, leaf
>>77762573
Denmark has lower unemployment than the USA.
>>77759003
Yeah, capitalism with fewer Gov. programs is clearly superior.
>>77762573
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/denmark/unemployment-rate
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate
>it's the nordics are socialist meme again
educate yourselfs http://www.doingbusiness.org/rankings
>>77762489
what about Nationalist Socialism
>>77762573
Nothing else to say? Gonna shift the goalposts like you accused me of? I'd be happy to shit on your anti-intellectual face again
>>77760930
That is retarded. If everyone is poor then they are all equal.
>>77754826
Germanic whites are better than Slavic whites
>>77761969
>I do know that fact was bullshit so I googled it
>i googled it
this "canada trying to be the new austrailia" shit got old real fast
>>77763144
sorry, can't be on the computer raging all day, i have things to do. took me a sec to grab sources
denmark unemployment rate: 5.8 http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/7244015/3-29042016-AP-EN.pdf/735afc8c-bb8e-4698-8129-860e1ce273df
US unemployment rate: 5.0 http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
>>77752861
They don't have the obligation of being the world's police. We spend their GDP just on our "defense".
>>77763144
>>77763404
mine are government sources btw
yours seem unreliable and shitty, but thanks for playing, leaf
>>77752861
America takes all the risks so these shitty "countries" with small populations can do well.
>>77762380
They generally work low-skilled jobs though. Most Mexican migrants are not coming here to work as doctors, scientists, or engineers.
What are they going to do when those jobs disappear through automation?
>>77763460
afk btw
sry if i dont reply to your next ragepost
Oil. you fucking moron.
>>77763507
I wasn't talking about migrants.
>>77752861
Socialism will only work at its best under two, and only two, conditions
>the country is small
>the country is racially and culturally homogenous (and white)
Anything else is a recipe for disaster.
>>77763794
Oh, were you talking about the upper class Mexican Americans, like the ones in NOVA? Yeah, they're pretty good I guess, but that's a very small percentage of the Mexican community.
>>77752861
>socialism
Fuck off
>>77752861
White
>>77752861
>Germany
>socialism
Germany is certainly one of the least socialist countries in the world. Don't know where this meme comes from. The only thing that's distributionist is child benefits and (non-shit) public universities.
Our social security system demands that you take every job, no matter the education you've got. Our health care is split into a private and a public part. Both are paid by employees (and employers). There is no "free" healthcare. The only "socialist" thing is that you are forced to have a health insurance.
My country truly is a socialist shithole every other finn in this thread tries to deny it but everything that possibly could be taxed is. The healthcare sucks ass, the education on above highschool is catastrofical. Everything seems great on paper but with our taxation procentages based on income fucks the middleclass hard, rich people can afford the taxes and the lower class gets wellfare money and other free bonuses while the middle class is stuck paying close to the rich peoples tax procentages and feeding every lazy shit without a job or wellfare niggers while slowly dying and sinking lower on the economical scale
>>77753822
>>77765261
Yeah the progressive taxation is a little crazy when it comes to wages. Basically, if you're not a rich fuck or a super expert, you're getting paid the same whether you're a cleaner or an engineer.
White homogenous small populations with high IQ. Natural resource reserves too. Also they're not really working out like they're memed to be. Last I heard their GDPs were stagnant and their governments were running out of money to keep the benefits flowing... Am I right?
>>77754417
>THEY'RE HOMOGENEOUS SOCIETIES
kek, go to Oslo
>>77753141
>muh taxes
Nothing is free.
>depression/suicide rates
Maybe, just maybe, this is related to the fact that Nordic countries are near the Arctic and are thus prone to long, cold, dark winters? The USA is much further south but still has serious issues with mental health.
>neo-communism
Political illiterate detected. Post discarded.
>>77753822
>m-m-muh Venezuela
>>77752861
whites can make any economic position work
naggers can try capitalism or socialism, they still end up with general butt naked eating their kids
mestizos are a little better but still need whites in charge to make things function
yellows are ant people who turn everything into oppressive bureaucracies
>>77753853
Denmark hasn't had a military threat in decades.
>>77754061
>simplifying something as complex as the fate of nations into a single factor
Not an argument.
>>77754452
>inb4 LE LOOK AT ME MOM
>>77754533
>only use the examples I tell you to because I know you better than you
>>77754750
Globalism, plummeting property values, the war and drugs, and various other issues.
>>77752861
Blue collar workers there make more money
White collar professionals make far less in Europe than here
The Scandinavian model of social welfare works because those nations are homogenous and have small populations and most importantly are protected by the United States
They all belong to the same ethnic group, celebrate the same holidays, enjoy the same recreational activities
Their culture is intertwined with their people
Now look at nations like the US and Brazil
Massive populations, multiple ethnic groups making up large chunks of the population, higher crime rates
It really comes down to the fact that diversity is very harmful to nations and in fact prevents a nation from coming together and looking out for its people
>>77752861
Pic related
>>77754826
They just went through a full economic collapse because of communism 20 years ago...Taking that into consideration they are doing pretty damn good.
>>77755013
Black people (whatever that means) are just as capable at managing their time and resources. The reason that Zimbabwe is shitty is because it's an autocratic, kleptocratic dictatorship run by a complete malevolent buffoon.
>>77752861
le germanic countries are socialists meme
>>77755206
Confirmed for not being around the USA or Europe.
>>77767342
Now explain Haiti, Jamaica, dominican Republic and all of Africa
>Norway
Oil; see: Kuwait
>Any of the other countries
You're better off in American Capitalism
Especially
>Sweden
I might also add that both Finland and Norway have a higher per capita death rate due to mass shootings. Clearly these people are "happier."
Socialism only works with white countries.
Every other race is too lazy to put money back into the system. This is why America will never work as a socialist country
A homogeneous population whose economy is built off of the backs of foreign labor. Take a look at Venezuela, as soon as their economy was no longer able to be sustained by foreign input their entire government literally fell apart.
>>77755563
>Belarus
>Poland
>Russia
Parts of the USA and UK as well.
>apartheid dindu muffin wrong
Are you retarded? South Africa back then still had terrible economic inequality, 80% of the population had to live in slums in the desert, authoritarian social policies repressed private life, and the whole system was held up by a draconian police apparatus.
>>77755928
Shhh, no truth allowed!
>>77752861
Those countries aren't socialist.
>>77768404
Everyone knows that shitskins need to be controlled by violent dictators....You can say they are communist but in reality its just a good old dictatorship
>>77753702
>>77752861
it's the people OP
>>77755928
Puerto Rico has always been messed up. It's a tiny island with virtually no natural resources and no tourist economy yet for some historical reason I'm not aware of, it's got a shit ton of people living in it. Maybe it was a huge trading port back in the day but today it's nothing but a place for a few companies who want to technically make things in the USA but pay slightly cheaper prices offloads their manufacturing to and no economic model will change that.
In contrast Cuba is a large land rich in Nickel, fertile land for growing sugar-yielding crops, and a host of other real goods.
>>77755928
>In fact Cuba, which has been embargoed by the US for over 50 years
And had more than 100 countries to trade with and despite of that failed miserabily.
Why don't you talk about that soviet aid and later venezuelan aid? Would that hinder your lefty point of view?
>>77752861
They reached crisis and surrendered to foreign invasion.
>Socialism working.
>>77752861
Sometimes it's better to be free and have self determination even if you fail at fully realizing it. There is also a matter of not being a Scandicuck as well. Everything about being an American is glorious if you are willing to put a little bit of work in and find your own arbitrary definition of happiness. There is something visceral and hard to describe about working hard for something and achieving that something. It's the reason that even a struggling working man have been shown time and again to be much happier compared to someone who has everything given to them.
If being part of the socialist "paradise" means being culturally like the cuck in the following video, you can count me the fuck out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDOdq9iPMA4
>>77752861
>USA pays and uses their own military for your defense.
>Look at all these generous social programs!
>See!!!11 Socialism works!
>>77757025
Northern Europe just so happens to be much closer to the Arctic circle than most of the USA. Not a good place for mental health.
>cancer survival rates
What are the comparative prevalence rates of the cancers studied in the two areas? Can most Americans afford the treatment? Which cancers were studied? How do other diseases compare?
>money
Is the average adjusted for skewing? How does consumer spending and standard of living compare?
>>77752861
>over 95% white
>>77759695
>>77766823
Communists detected.
>>77753822
top
>>77766879
>largest proven oil reserves in the world
>seventeen years of socialism later
>social and economic disaster
Socialism works, but not in the way socialists think it does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g
>>77752861
Homogenous.
>>77752861
Massive trade surpluses from exporting natural resources, mainly fossil fuels and minerals.
Same reason Canada has been able to prop itself up.
But now that oil prices have crashed, that doesn't work anymore, and the country is steadily sliding into the gutter.
>>77752861
So happy their culture will be extinct in 50 years.....
