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Birth control goes against the bible
Abortion is murder
Gay marriage god against the bible
The bible says to strike down those who tell us to worship other gods, guns let us do this.
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>>77749811
you seem to be forgetting separation of church & state,

REBUTTLE DENIED
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>>77749981
>head of state is the defender of the faith
>head of state is also the head of the church
>must make an oath to the head of state to be a citizen including say so help me god
>church and state are separate
No
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>>77749499
None of those things have ever been successfully banned, ever.

Saying birth control, abortion, or gay marriage should be banned is coming from a place of moral absolution via religion.

If they want to say banning guns is okay because banning birth control, abortion, or gay marriage is acceptable by the religious right.. then they're admitting their arguments are just as fallacious..
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wow really makes u think, upvoted.
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>>77750263
If the head of state is a defender, then why would people need guns if they're being defended?

GET BLOCKED TWICE INBRED
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>>77750290

Nah, Conservatives are just tyrannical dictators. They're attempting to block the citizens of this country from using their right to amend the constitution, which in this case the new amendment would cancel the 2nd.

FUCK OUTTA HERE PUSSY
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>>77749499
abortion has killed more people than private gun ownership ever could

privatise the government's guns
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People still find ways to cheat, steal, and murder too if you make it difficult.
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Literally who has EVER said ban birth control?
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>>77751116

>fetus'
>people

fetus' have a separate name from developed homo sapiens for a reason.

FUCKIN DENIED
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>>77751334
catholics and muslims mainly
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>>77749499
funny, all those things are banned in islamic countries.
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>>77751363
too bad your mom didn't abort you.
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>>77749499
not even americuck but
isnt birth control legal? just like abortion? and gay marriage?
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>>77749499
that's a pretty cute cat
like a pocket cheetah
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>>77749499

There is no rebuttal. The argument is pro-gun.
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>>77751363
>abortion isn't murder
>killing a pregnant woman is double homicide
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>>77749499
>people I disagree with are one person
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>>77749811

>wanting sharia

fuck off
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>>77749499
>Birth Control
I have no problem with it.
>Abortion
Keeps the nigger population down. Again. No problem.
>Gay Marriage
Don't give a shit. Marriage is for suckers.
>Guns
I love weapons.
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>>77750673
Defender of the faith, did you read what I said?
>>77751764
I'm a Christian
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>>77751363
>'baby'
>people
Oh wow that was easy to do. Really makes you think....
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>>77749499
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None of those things have ever happened though.

What is with liberals and their creation of a false narratives to justify their points?
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>>77751589
in many countries, killing a pregnant woman is not double homicide. therefore, fetus' are not recognized as developed humans with 100% certainty. also, wouldn't the death penalty be homicide then?

NO ONE STUMPS ME ON MY TURF
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>>77751363
>fetus' have a separate name from developed homo sapiens

A human fetus is still called homo sapiens since it has all the genes of homo sapiens you fucking idiot.
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>>77751589
Nowadays with "muh wimminz rights" it's basically Schrodinger's fetus. The fetus is both a person and not a person until it leaves the mother's body under whatever decision she makes.
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>>77751363
>>77752050
>image.gif
Fucking phoneposters are all normies and are usually le cancer
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>>77752073

I'm the idiot? You're the one saying a fetus is a developed human.

UNSTUMPABLE.
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>>77751912
>I'm a Christian

so why are you pushing for sharia
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>>77752445
I didn't say it's developed, I said it's still a homo sapiens.
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>>77749499
Birth control: Don;t care
Abortion: Don;t care
Gay marrage: There is no such thing to ban. It was a decision to force a religion to include homosexuals in a religious right of passage.
> Atheist here

Guns: Its a failsafe for fascism/totalitarianism/home invasion. Maybe libs should just tell their criminal chums to stop being degenerate criminals. You know, like Obama failed to do in Chicago.
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>>77752467
Point me to the post where I asked for sharia please
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>>77752073

>cis

not bad
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>>77749499
Birth control isn't banned and people can find them if they want them. Order them online, head out of state/province, all sorts of options.

Abortion is done through doctors offices and are even set up with the sole purpose of performing them. While people can get them done through leaving the state or doing an at home unsafe abortion, banning them is effective in that doctors won't perform them which is the only place to get them.

Gay marriage is the same. Banning it is effective because it's not something you can BUY as much as it's a LEGAL DOCUMENT and therefore if it isn't legal to get gay married then you just can't. However, it's legal.

Guns are controlled. They are represented in the constitution, mainly to protect against tyrannical government and personal property. It's not hard to understand that. However, the fear of guns makes guns seem powerful so people then think that they're a magical machine that will allow them the means to their ends. If we were less double-fear-monger of guns then mass shootings would go down as edgemeisters wouldn't be so compelled to see them as a conduit to their emotional release.

China got rid of guns other than military and police. They killed more people than any other country in history. All their own people.

If everyone in these shooting situations were armed, do you really think they would get as far as they do? Fags with guns are just as effective as terrorists with guns. Fellow wouldn't have got as far.

Also, what about if this is all a false flag? Drug a dude over time, feed him the right media, push him from behind the scenes until he snaps and goes and does a thing so you can then say "See? Guns are dangerous, not people, guns, so now we have to take alllll your guns. UP UP don't argue you violent male racist rapist. Give them up."
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>>77751444
Guns aren't banned in Saudi Arabia you retard.
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>>77749981
How about separation of synagogue & state? Can we have some of this pls?
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>>77751893
>marriage is for suckers
single, bitter, autistic
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>>77750990
>Tyranny
>Liberals want to remove all your freedoms one at a time.

You couldn't amend the constitution unless you found maybe something to add to it. However, the constitution is written in such a way as to be plain English and always applicable.
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>>77752663

>>77749811
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>>77752134
So a fetus is a person whenever people feel like it is and not a person when people feel like it isn't?
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>>77753147
>bible
>sharia
No
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>>77749499
None of those should be banned
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>>77749811
Birth control - I don't care
Abortion - its murder, should be banned and punished as a murder
Gay marriage - only secular marriage, forcing churches to act against their beliefs is rape
Guns - MOAR GUNS PLS
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>>77753258

nothing you stated is any different, its the sharia idiots like you claim to hate but want to enforce
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>>77749499
>This tiny percentage of gun owners commits mass murders?
>Ban all guns!
>This considerable percentage of muslims commits mass murders?
>#notallmuslims more immigrants when
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>>77749499
Birth control? Don't ban but don't give public funding.

Abortion? Don't ban but don't give public funding.

Gay marriage? Religious decision/right of Church or organization to decide.

Guns? Don't ban but don't give public funding.

Get out liberal shitstain.
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>>77753540
Murder? Don't ban but don't give public funding? LAWL
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>>77749811
I'm pro-gun, but fuck off with wanting a sandnigger state, Christianity is just watered down Islam. You are no better then sandniggers if you want to mix your jew worshipping religion into the government.
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>>77753468
Can you show me the post where is aid I hate anyone?
And also so what if some cultures have the same beliefs as you? The bible says this and if other people say we should follow that it doesn't mean I'm gonna change my mind.
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Who said birth control should be banned? Conservatives just don't want taxpayers or businesses with religious convictions against birth control paying for it. Nobody is stopping anyone from going out with their own money and buying it.

And don't liberals agree with conservatives on the fact that banning this doesn't stop them? I mean one of the whole arguments for legalizing abortion is that women will get them regardless in back alleys if it was illegal.
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>>77753627
Will you keep talking like this when you're in Hell suffering?
Islam is a satanic cult that asks it's worshipers to sin so that Satan will have more people on hell
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>>77749499
Not a single one of those things is banned, so what's the argument exactly?
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>>77753607
Different people have different opinions, buddy.

At the very least, it is the states' right to decide, not the federal government.
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>>77753540

thats how all of those things already work
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>>77749499
the difference is that those other things are considered always bad by people who want to ban them, no exceptions.

Whereas hardly anyone wants to ban guns because they're always "bad", it's all about guns being used in bad ways. That's why you're not gonna just ban them all. Some people think gay marriage or abortions are inherently terrible, only a few nutjobs would think guns are inherently terrible.
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>>77753722
No man made law changes reality.
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Birth control?
MAKE THE GOVERNMENT PROVIDE IT!
Abortion?
MAKE THE GOVERNMENT PROVIDE IT!
Gay marriage?
FORCE CHURCHES TO ACCEPT IT!
Guns?
BAN THEM FOR LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS! ALSO MAKE THE GOVERNMENT PROVIDE THEM TO MEXICAN CARTELS!
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>>77753722
If people thought it was okay to rape should they be allowed to? Do you support Islam?
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>>77753911
Exactly. Slavery was legal. So is Abortion. Both are morally wrong.
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>>77749811
Biblefags is why I can't take this place serious. Thanks for the various redpills but you're all fucking retarted.

Don't even bother replying with wall comments because I'm not opening this thread again.
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>>77753805
No, Planned Parenthood is receiving government funding.

You are not allowed to discriminate against gays/must marry them.

Guns should not have government regulation tied to them at all, other than basic background checks that would also be necessary for things like healthcare.
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>>77750990
Hmm. You seem to be confused. Christian conservatives aren't even the driving force behind the republican party these days. The modern "right" in the US is a fairly politically diverse group mostly united by their mutual distaste for progressives. People on the "right" in the US even disagree about gun control internally so this conversation is a bit silly.
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>>77752858
Underrated
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>>77753911
>>77754063
I don't plan on having an abortion, so I don't naturally give a fuck, but I don't see it as murder either. If it has the same mental capacity as a squirrel, I will treat it like a squirrel. Much the same reason I don't mind if we start killing off the severely mentally disabled.
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>>77754074
What's wrong with the bible? Is it bad I don't watch porn? Is it bad I don't commit adultery? Is it bad I'm not a drunkard? Is it bad I do my best to be respectful and kind to everyone?
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>>77749499
I don;t want to ban any of those. I just don't want the government involved in them.
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>We need to send military grade weapons to Syrian rebels so they can fight their oppressive regime!
>Nobody in America should have access to military grade weapons!
Really makes you think...
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>>77754074
GET 'IM OUTA HERE
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>>77754202
Humans are far more intelligent than squirrels
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>>77749981
Separation of church and state is not a law. In fact its really just an idea.
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>>77749981
>>77750673
>>77750990
>>77751363

Posting in a nigger thread
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>Everyone who is pro-gun is also anti- all of that other shit
>HAHA GOTCHA THERE DIDN'T I? Enjoying my silly closeup profile picture?
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>no one wants to ban birth control
>no one pretends banning abortion will stop people from having back-alley abortions
>gay marriage is an oxymoron, you can't ban something that just doesn't exist
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>>77749499
Who has a problem with birth control other than catholic zealots?
Abortion is murder and killing your own child makes you a piece of shit but it shouldn't be illegal
Who cares
Right given by the constitution
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>>77754364
Not babies in the womb. It doesn't have the mental capacity for thoughts and desires. There may be an argument behind banning it after the third trimester.
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>>77753704
Oh no, everything I don't like is SATAN. I better save everyone of their SINS, by forcing religion onto them and outlawing anything that I don't like!
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KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF IT

KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF IT

KEEP THE OGVERNMENT OUT OF IT

KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF IT

Oh look, I'm consistent.
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>>77753320
This dude knows what's up.
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>>77754114
These days the right is really where all the discussion are had and the left are just a bunch of faggots screaming their heads off. In a different time we would be separated into two groups but actual retards are occupying one group.
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>>77749811
God speed anon.
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>>77752073
>broke sap pat

Time to change my name.
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>>77754202
But you have to acknowledge that it is still murder. I don't care about it either but killing an autistic guy is still killing.
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>>77754521
How do you know that?
>>77754567
Um no Islam is Satanic they worship idols for example
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>>77754595
based desu
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>>77754783
Ok, cool. You end something's life, it's murder. You're right. I kill a cockroach, it's murder. I still kill cockroaches, what I call it doesn't annoy me.
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>>77752445
Yeah it's fucking stupid to have us all take off our shoes at the airport.

>They did this one stupid thing
>WHY NOT DO ANOTHER STUPID THING
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>>77754804
It's a fact, Abdullah. Use your Internet and your noggin.
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>>77749499
>Rebuttle
Spelled wrong AND incorrect grammar. You are a disgrace to your flag. The verb form would be "rebut." The noun is "rebuttal."
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Birth control: not a constitutional right.
Abortion: not a constitutional right.
Gay marriage: not a constitutional right.
Guns: constitutional right.
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Marriage is a concept upheld by the state, suggesting that you can't """ban""" it is like saying that you can't revoke social security because people will find a way to get it.
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>>77749499
>Not the plan

>Not the plan

>Can't build

>Can Build
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>>77752599
This is high-level bait, I don't even know what level of trolling is going on here, or who's trolling who.

If this is a legit Occupy Democrats macro then... still fucking confusing
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>>77754962
inb4
>b-but dude, it was meant for muskets!!
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>>77754920
I'm not an Arab my parents are from Europe
How can any scientist know a baby has no thoughts or desires?
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>>77755083
>I'm not an Arab my parents are from Europe
Something's not right here.
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>>77755083
How can you prove that it does?
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>>77755182
Eastern Europe, not the degenerate atheist Western Europe
>>77755211
Because it's a human
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>>77753722
But anon, I don't want any of those banned.
>BTFO
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>>77749811
>Abortion is murder
Abortion does not kill any living being. It's also legal, which means it cannot be "murder".

Have you got any logical arguments?
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It arbitrarily implies there's a problem with gun ownership
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>>77755542
Except that it does, you're killing a child it's disgusting anyone who defends child murder is a monster
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>>77749499
First nice dubs

>Birth control
Control your dick. I don't really have a problem with it though
>Abortion
You are killing a organism that has the potential to be a human life, just because you were careless and had it does not mean you should have the right to prevent it from suffering like the rest of us.
>Gay Marriage
I'm really tired of people somehow thinking that right wingers somehow have all encompassing view and don't fall on a political spectrum. To be honest gays should be allowed to have the same benefits of married couples, that is what it has always been about.
>Guns
While I understand not everyone should have a gun the government is not the best body to decide who should own firearms. In my experience in Canada the government changes far too often and gun laws change as well. The real problem with mass shootings that anyone cares about could be solved with proper mental healthcare.
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>>77752050
A fetus is still a human being. It's homo sapien. I don't know if you know what homo means or that we are sapiens sapiens. We are also the only homo sapiens sapiens.
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>implying I want any of those things banned
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>>77755542
Abortion is factually murder, it willfully ends the existence of an already created unique human being. The actions taken while performing the abortion are knowing and have the primary purpose of destroying the growing person where otherwise it would be safely gestating until it emerged from the womb the same way babies have been pushing their way out for all of mammalian history.

I used to be pro-life you see, but then I realized that we live in a universal suffrage democratic republic welfare state with birthright citizenship, I discovered that politics was hereditary, and I learned that the vast vast VAST majority of abortions are done to non-whites and progressives, so I am VEHEMENTLY pro-choice.
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>>77749499
>This just in! Guy on the internet uses a false equivalency! More at 11!
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>>77755900
Who are you calling homo you fucking leaf
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>>77749499
>Birth control?
>This is fine.
>Abortion?
>This is fine.
>Gay marriage?
>This is fine.
>Guns?
>BAN IT!
Do you think this guy realises he's just making an ass of himself?
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>>77752073
>epic
>whore
>sad
ok
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>>77753607
Guns and murder are very different things.
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>>77749499
>birth control
don't care, but it shouldn't be publicly funded

>abortion
quite literally murder, and it shouldn't be legal anywhere, let alone publicly funded

>gay marriage
states right to decide

>guns
constitutional right and supreme law of the land

fuck yourself

>>77756606
abortion and murder aren't tho
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>>77752073

sad sap ore

2 out of 3
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>>77752073
fat
funny
beautiful

xd
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>>77755932
It willfully ends something that was not willfully created

hmmmm
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>>77753885
For Birth Control and Abortion I think that population control is important. Birth Control should be provided and expanded upon. If there was a universal option in which you could take something once a month or once a year or something of such like you could take it and become sterile until you take another thing to become fertile again, it should be universally available.

Abortion should be okay, paid by the government or not, I don't know. It is worse to have a child come into a life where it will suffer. We are all just conglomerations of atoms in various configurations. Once we start to add things to that, it's all rhetoric. Your real life changes and a real life is effected if you have an unwanted child. Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, but if you choose to not, then you shouldn't.

The difficulty with gay marriage is that marriage is a religious constitution and the only reason gays want it is either a) they're religious OR b) They want to say a childish "Look what I'M doing, you can't do anything about it, neener neener neener!" to religion.

Guns are guns, I like guns, I don't have a gun, but guns are important. They are a tool for freedom.
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>>77754063
Both are morally wrong based on our current morals set in our society. There are no intrinsic morals in the universe, though, so take all human morality with a grain of salt.
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>>77758010
except it was

you consent to the potentiality of pregnancy when you decide to fuck someone

you don't magically get pregnant

the only exception is rape, but that still doesn't justify terminating the life of the most innocent party
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>>77754288
>"Military grade"

What does this mean?
There are cellphones and computers that say they're mil-spec... does this mean the same thing?
Are you saying the guns are both drop proof from 6 feet and also IP67 rated?
"LOOK OUT, HIS SAMSUNG PHONE IS MIL-SPEC, TAKE THE SHOT"
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>>77756121
All of mankind! We are all homogeneous. Mostly. Don't forget that a lot of use have homo neanderthal in our genes. Blacks, though, do not.
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>>77756879
Abortion and murder are also not the same thing.
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>>77759385
you're right

one is legalized and unjust
the other is just unjust
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>>77752073
fat whore clutz 1/3
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>>77752073
Sad love beautiful
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>>77759586
Are you religious?
If so, I can understand. I do wonder, though, at what point does the soul enter the fetus and create a sentient life? If the soul existed before and is merely injected into a blank body, would the soul not just go back to where it came from OR would it not be sinless and therefore be accepted into heaven to be coddled by the bosom of... uh, abraham? Or is it Mary? I don't remember which.
Is it the matter of causing the departure of the soul and hypothetical life which that soul would have in the body which is the fetus? If so, is that not just my eternal soul on the line, not yours?
If you're not religious, then at which point do you deem something more than just a configuration of atoms floating around in the universe, and why do you give any atom in the universe more worth than another? Especially considering that at some point all atomic configurations will break down and become something else...
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>>77749499
Almost nobody is against banning birth control. Conservative opposition is to not use the threat of fines and imprisonment to force people who don't believe in it to pay for it.

The right to bear arms is supported not on the grounds that the bans don't work but on the grounds that it is a constutionally guaranteed freedom that doesn't have to he justified.

Those who support banning abortion (I don't) do so on the grounds that it allows someone to deny the rights of the unborn. I believe in the right to life on a personal level (when I was dating my wife we discussed what we would do if she became pregnant since I'm not into my kid being aborted, and didn't bang until we both understood we were on the same page) but I don't think it's up to the state.

For the record I'm not even a Republican, I am a Trump Democrat. It is a leftist myth that personal freedom and conservatism are incompatible.
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>>77761611
the most logical argument you can make for when a fetus becomes a human life is when fertilization takes place and the sperm enters the egg

not before this event takes place, and not at any arbitrary point during development

that is the defining point when human life is created

that's all you need to know
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>>77749811
>he wants another Theocracy
Stop.
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>>77749499
Banning birth control is autistic. Only religious conservatives advocate for such a thing.

Abortion is murder. It is a violation of the non-aggression principle.

Banning gay marriage is autistic. Only religious conservatives advocate for such a thing. However, gay marriage itself is autistic, marriage is pointless outside of the purposes of child raising.

Banning guns is autistic. Guns protect Americans from each other, government overreach and foreign invasion.

Just because you're against Gun Control doesn't mean you're a bible-thumping Ted Cruz voting cuck.
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>>77752606
>Gay marrage: There is no such thing to ban. It was a decision to force a religion to include homosexuals in a religious right of passage.

Marriage is an institution of the state, not the church, since tax breaks are given for married couples.

The church has no say in what the state institution of marriage is, just as the state has no say in what a church recognizes as a marriage.
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>>77749499
I don't know anyone that wants to ban birth control.
If you banned gay marriage, there would be no way to have a gay marriage black market because marriage can only be licensed by the state.
Abortion is the only one on the list that is similar to the argument he is trying to make.
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>>77762401
Okay, so you say that when a sperm enters an egg is the point in which we consider it a living human being with human rights.
But why then?
What does it mean when a natural abortion occurs?
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>>77763591
Marriage has always been a religious institution. Government offers things to those who get married as a third party to marriage.
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>>77752073
>fat
>whore
>beautiful
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>>77749499
lma0 fuck you nigger
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>>77765728
>But why then?
Because why would it be any other point?

>What does it mean when a natural abortion occurs?
I don't know, what does it mean when a natural death occurs in general?
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>>77766995
I think what I am asking is what specifically makes it a living human? Is it that there is suddenly a potential or theoretical life span from the process which has been started?

So the morally incorrect part of an abortion is the decision to do it, not the actual loss of life? If something dies without human interaction, that's okay, that's "the universe" but if a human (a thing that is comprised of all the things the universe is too) chooses so, it's morally incorrect?
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>>77749499
I don't agree with banning any of those things.
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>>77752073
Fat
Lovley
Pol
Oh shit
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>>77749499
There's literally nothing wrong with birth control, abortion, or gay marriage.

Banning guns, on the other hand, is a bad idea because our country might be invaded or have a civil war soon. I want to be able to defend myself if that happens, and the second amendment to the Constitution guarantees my right to do so, and under no uncertain terms.

You're not taking my guns away. Period. Deal with it. Cry about it. It's never going to happen.
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>>77749499
Don't need to. I want all of those things to be perfectly legal.

Even abortion. It's murder and I wouldn't do it myself but it sure is a good way to curb the number of undesirables.
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>>77752073
Broken
Funny
Ree

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>>77752073
>Fun beautiful whore.
It's true. It's damn true.
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>>77752073
sad tuba whore
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>>77749499
Nobody wants to ban birth control, just don't want the state to pay for it. Also, this is mostly about plan B which could be classified as abortion.

Abortion is murder.

i have nothing for gay marriage, I don't really care about this one.

Guns are a right, which shall not be infringed. A disarmed nation is weak and afraid. Also, criminals will have guns while nobody else has them. Majority of shootings take place in gun free zones, imagine if the entire nation were a gun free zone.
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>>77749499
OP said butt

fuck you op that is immature
gas yourself
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>>77767782
I still don't understand your point. It seems like you're on the verge of trying to argue that taking a human life isn't immoral because people die anyway? That's what your line of thinking is pointing towards, anyway.

The morally incorrect part of abortion is the part where you're destroying a human life.

>but if a human (a thing that is comprised of all the things the universe is too) chooses so, it's morally incorrect?
If one human chooses to end the life of another human unjustly, it is murder and morally wrong.

I'm not really in the mood for a philosophical argument over why murder is wrong. You should get that nihilism checked out.
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>>77749499
Guns are weapons and weapons are the only way to assert oneself.

If liberals don't like the laws so much they should consider arming themselves, training, and then fighting to create a nation in which they can create their own laws.
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>>77749499
Those should all be legal 2bh
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>>77749499
Straw man argument.

Not having the taxpayer fund abortion and birth control does not count as banning it. These people are mentally deficient.

And gays have always been able to get married. Only the cucks who CRAVE the governments approval of their personal relationships thought that they couldn't get married.

Gonna have to do better my son
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>>77752904
He never said plowing different women every weekend and maintaining financial stability was for suckers.

It's really the best way to live desu
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>>77749499
> abortion
Coat hanger

Yup, doesnt work they do still get it
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>birth control

Effective and safe birth control is only available from well-regulated pharmaceutical manufacturers with access to medical-grade chemicals. There are folk remedies and makeshift methods, sure, but those are either untrustworthy or dangerous. And who's proposing banning birth control? Catholics don't have that much pull in America, protestants are mostly fine with BC and at most people just don't want to pay for it via their tax dollars (hobby lobby case).

>Abortion

Again, only really safe and effective when performed by medical professionals in a regulated environment. There's literally no argument why there shouldn't be a system where women are counseled and see therapists through their pregnancy process and allowed to give birth and give their kid to adoption other than "muh feels" and "muh bodily autonomy" 'that ignores the child's autonomy and, well, right to life.

>gay marriage

Like that's literally a state thing. There's no such thing as banning gay marriage, just a federal refusal to recognize it as a marriage.

>Guns

Can be easily made in a garage or smuggled in.

This is retarded.
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>>77749499
>Not a constitutionally protected right
>Not a constitutionally protected right
>Constitutionally protected by the 14th Amendment
>Constitutionally protected by the Second Amendment
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>>77749499
None of those things listed are banned.

Birth control is a choice, nothing the government can do to stop it.

Abortion is a choice, but the government can regulate it since it is a medical procedure that involves ending human life.

Fag marriage is a choice, and the government really doesn't have any sort of Constitutional authority to recognize marriage in the first place.

Firearm ownership is also a choice, but this is the only thing he lists that happens to be explicitly protected in the Constitution.
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>>77752050
>in many countries

Which countries?
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>>77752445
Whether it's fully-developed or not, it is still human.
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>"I want birth control to be an out of pocket expense."
"YOU'RE TRYING TO BAN IT!"
>"I don't want federal tax dollars being spent on abortion."
"YOU'RE TRYING TO BAN IT!"
>"I think it's up to the states to make this decision."
"YOU'RE TRYING TO BAN IT!"
>"Stop trying to ban guns at the federal level."
"I'M NOT TRYING TO BAN ANYTHING I JUST DON'T THINK ANYONE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BUY GUNS FOR ANY REASON!"
>"That's called a ban."
"I DON'T BAN THINGS! YOU'RE THE ONE WHO TRIES TO BA THINGS!"
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>>77771776

this

fuck regressives
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>>77768676
Alright, so, what is it that makes you think morality is anything other than a manifestation of humans self interest in continuing to exist? There is no universal morality. Morality is not inherent. You cannot pinpoint consciousness so you cannot say, with evidence, when a human IS a human and when it's just a POTENTIAL human.

Abortion is not wrong morally. What's wrong morally is bringing a child into a lifestyle which will cause him a life of pain and sadness.

Either way, I think that it's a moot point since birth control would mitigate this issue.
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Gay marriage and abortion arent banned, they are not allowed
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>>77749499
Banning x will just create a black market for x and will never work. Banning any of them would do nothing.
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I'm pro-gun, pro-abortion, pro birth control and pro gay marriage.

What now faggots?
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>>77749499
Whice of those things are guaranteed to me by the constitution?????
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>>77774148
Gay marriage

t. scotus
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>>77749499
Birth control, marriage and abortion are not in the constitution, even I as a mexican intelectual know this
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