Do men actually want kids?
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All of my buddies secretly admit they regret doing it. My sister's husband is a miserable fucking prick after their two kids. My neighbor just had his third daughter and his drinking has become worse and worse ever since. My uncle who came to visit last Easter with his two kids whispered me to never get married and to especially never have kids.
It seems men really do not enjoy having kids like women do.
>not wanting kids
if you don't you're a beta, your job in this world is to have as many as possible. What you're seeing there is men hating their children because they hate their mother.
shitty fathers and/or married wrong woman. all the happiest people here are those with kids.
>>77713832
People don't want kids because they're rebellious little cunts, and we're discouraged from flogging them.
>>77714005
I'd like to see factual representation of the comparable "happiness", Anon.
>>77713832
I'll just go to the Philippines or some shit and breed as many bastards as possible. Then at least I'll know that my genetic legacy goes on, without having to raise kids.
>>77713832
If sex wasn't good, almost nobody would have kids.
>>77713832
only with a rational woman. so, no.
>>77713832
I would like to have kids but I have scoliosis and I'm afraid I might pass my shitty genes to them
>>77713959
This idea intrigued me so much that I did a bit of research and it confirmed exactly what my own instinct told me: Men enjoy nutting inside of as many women as possible, but want nothing to do with the little pricks until they can walk. Women actually release more blood into their breasts when they hear their infants cry and their sex hormones change and they feel physically relaxed while nursing their babies. Their maternal psyche forms a mental bond with their children which lasts until they die, they feel a sense of completion by having as many children as they can.
Men don't have any of this shit. We wanna nut and then bounce and then nut again and then come back and help the kids learn how to hunt and fish and survive in the world after they're done screaming and shitting their pants every 5 seconds (According to the research I've done, mainly by the Sears family of pediatric doctors)
Yes, I want to implant my seed within a blonde hair blue eyed, submissive housewife. In order to produce an actualized image of my genetic disposition in order to carry on with respectable traditions
>>77713832
Its a seriously long term investment. My parents are ridiculously happy that they are starting to have grandkids now.
They are happy to give us early inheritance and help us start our families and they joke that its on the condition that we look after them in their old age and never put them in a home but we cant ever really do that to them when they have given us so much.
Having kids is badass if you raise them to be fag-hating God-fearing highly educated redpilled badasses who grow up to gain positions of power.
If you're a beta little bitch without strict moral principles, you shouldn't have kids. You'll be miserable because you aren't strong and smart enough to lead your wife and your kids, so they'll never truly respect you.
I don't actually have kids so I don't know first hand, but this is how it looks.
>>77714193
Use genetic counseling. There is no guess work involved in passing on genetic disease anymore.
>>77714271
They arnt submissive. They are nuts. Some of them just prefer cooking and child minding to taking out the rubbish and cleaning the bathroom.
>>77713832
As a chick I honestly can say I don't want any. Not now anyways.
>>77713832
>Not wanting heirs and someone to pass on your wisdom, legacy, and genes.
>>77713959
> be me
> oldfag (50) never bred any kids
> paid off mortgage, only have to work 3 days a week
> got many women lining up to service me
> got money for everything I want.
fuck kids tbqh. Getting pussywhipped into breeding kids is beta behaviour.
>>77714106
>kek
the best!
>>77713959
yeah i don't care about all these degenerate fuckers saying they hate their kids fuck them and their shitty families i want to have a bunch of kids
>>77714421
Women aren't naturally submissive.
You need to be a man who women will want to submit to. 98% of men are not strong enough these days, even conservative men have been partially brainwashed by feminism.
>>77714305
man you sound edgy
>>77713832
I feel like people regret having kids when they reach their 30s/40s because they feel like the kids are holding them back from having fun and doing what they want, but once they get older they appreciate having them.
With a good woman absolutely.
>>77714351
I probably will if I ever deccide to really have them.
>>77714553
I'm edgy as shit bruh
>>77713832
I can see you nose
>>77714305
Kinda this. If you're just going to let your children survive and be raised by Jews, don't have children. If you're rich and want to raise and educate them, have 10 kids.
>>77713832
those titties deserve 10 thumbs up
>>77713832
>this thread again
>yes goy, never have kids.
>they will make you miserable
Fuck off shill. Having kids is the best part of life. I've never loved something more in my life than my kids. Just thinking about them makes me happy. My wife and I pretty much decided to have another one soon.
The key here is having a good relationship with your wife first, then have kids. This is why (if your story is true) faggot friends hate their lives. Either that or they are shit parents and baby their kids to death.
>>77713832
Men are unhappy after kids because the wife usually drives the financial decisions after kids are born and uses the kids as an excuse to demand he pay for the fucking universe.
They get with their other girlfriends who are stay at home and:
>baby swim class
>gymboree
>baby yoga
>kindermusik
All these "classes" for the baby are a just a thinly veiled rotating party for stay at home moms. The classes are usually $50 each visit and are always catered with really really nice food and sometimes even a fucking smoothie bar.
My buddy has 2 kids 1 and 2 years old and he spends $350/week on these "classes". They aren't happening that many times a week the whole year but if they were that's over $18,000/yr in recreational classes ALONE.
That's why men are fucking stressed out and fucking beat to death over the kids.
Sure. Maybe not right now. But definitely in the future when I've got better pay.
>>77714771
Shut the fuck up.
>>77714745
This.
Anon, if you're not going to have kids, just kill yourself right now.
>>77714802
>>baby swim class
The rest of that shit is retarded I agree, but having your children learn to swim and get used to water asap is incredibly valuable.
>>77713832
That is one endowed woman.
>>77713832
Nice try jude
>>77713832
Prime teen titties.
>>77713832
It's kinda scary at first, but after a few years you'll be happy you did. Sure raising kids is expensive, but they add more emotional fulfillment to your life than wasting all that money on a bunch of stuff.
How the hell are we supposed to insure the survival of our race if shitskins are outbreeding us 3 to 1?
>>77713959
> as many as possible
Indian detected.
You and only you are one who matter. After your death no one cares abt sorry sperm
I do want kids, after seeing my seeing my cousin have her twins after an earlier miscarriage, they're amazing. Obviously it is challenging at times, but being a good father and a rolemodel to your kids is something I reckon is one of the best kids you could be.
That said though, for now I don't want kids. I'm nineteen so I don't think I'd make a good father yet.
>>77714098
Good luck with that. The most enjoyment I see men get from their kids is as the lowest-risk diversion from their miserable marriage.
>>77715173
*ensure
Nah I'd be a useless father, never even held hands with a woman so my genetic line is over famalam, too useless to even "orbit" women kek
>>77714956
At a year old? They have a fucking swimming pool in the neighborhood. She could take the baby there and work with her.
But no, she pays $50/class to go to the little fins baby swim school because that is where there is someone paid to keep another eye on their baby while they half pay attention and chit chat. Their HOA pays for a swim team coach that will with the help of volunteers teach their kid to swim if they are 4 or older.
Not to mention the little fins swim school has these "levels" and you have to FUCKING PAY to take the exam to graduate your kid. If they fail you have to pay the $50 visit AND the $25 test fee again. Hahaha
>>77713832
How old are you?
>>77713959
yeah having kids is alpha as fuck
fucking sheeple clones suffering from low self-esteem.
i think i would enjoy having kids and would be a good father functionally. unfortunately, i am ugly and therefore have inferior genetics and would never subject another being to the kind of life i've had due to my genetic inferiority. therefore, it is for the best that i don't reproduce.
>>77714475
I'm so jealous of a 50 year old who still browses /pol/
I've got 2 kids. I never wanted one.
But my gf at the time lied about having a IUD.
So. Bam. Kid. Than one night she pretty much raped me when I was drunk. Bam. Kid.
Now she wants a third.
I have no will to live anymore.
I've gained 50lbs in a year, because I've just given up.
I wish I could tell 16 year old me to not fuck crazy.
>>77715316
Not at a year old, no. That's retarded. It's reasonable at around three years old for them to start swimming lessons.
>>77713832
The idea of raising a child and passing it on all your knowledge so that you leave behind something better than the chance you were given as a child is a nice idea.
However I'm a MGTOW in reality, for many different reasons but more predominantly because the government has interfered with the family unit and made it dangerous and toxic towards men.
1) No fault divorce means women can dump you for any reason they like, or no reason at all.
2) The welfare state provisions disproportionally for women disproportionally at the expense of men and mean women do not need to rely on men directly they can rob them through the force of the state.
3) Family courts and in fact all courts are bias towards mothers as primary care givers and award them custody most of the time meaning they can literally take your child away from you.
4) Overwhelming people in general including the media and law enforcement believe women are a protected class at the expense of men, so false accusations of domestic abuse, sexual assault and so on, these are all risks to men.
5) The fucked market and high taxes we pay today to put other peoples children through school means its harder financially to live comfortably with a large family.
>>77715270
How old are you? 23? Start working out fat fuck and stop fapping or looking at porn for 90 days. It'll change your life forever.
>>77715355
27, going on 28. My buddies were mostly in the same class as me, I think only a few were in the grade above or below me, so they're all either the same age or 1 or 2 years older/younger. My sister and her husband are in their thirties, my neighbor's probably in his late 30s, I don't know him that well, we just chat from time to time and he's always drunk off his ass talking about how miserable his life is with his wife and kids, my uncle's probably up in his mid fifties by now.
Like I said, based on the research I did, mentioned here, >>77714231, suggests that women physically, mentally, and emotionally change after they have children because that is what they're biologically meant to do, while men are not. Men come into play at around 4 or 5 years after the kids have been born, when they can walk, so they can teach them how to survive on their own and then leave to go impregnate more women.
>>77714081
topfucking kek
>>77713832
I would like kids. I'd like to have a wife and children to come home to. It's just that modern women and children are so abrasive that I don't think it'll happen.
I would absolutely not want daughters either--only sons.
>>77713832
> It seems men really do not enjoy having kids like women do.
There are many things we don't enjoy but have to do anyway.
You are a vehicle for your genes, kids are the only legacy you'll have in this world. Everything else is futile, nobody will remember your shitposting and how good of a team player you were at your job.
If you don't have them while you can, you'll die a sorry, a lonely old cunt.
>>77713832
Kids are the Trap Bro women get kids they have financial stability for 18+ years
>>77715316
kek being American sucks. All of that and more is around 50 euros for 6 months at the local club location. I made sure no refugees use this service before I allowed my wife to take our kids there.
>>77714305
>God-fearing
>redpilled
This fuckin' nigger.
>>77715628
What does the "stop looking at porn" meme even accomplish? It wouldn't make me start talking to women or asking them out. It would just make me frustrated.
>>77713832
I have kids and never regretted it not once. The people complaining in this thread are just selfish.
>>77713832
your friends and uncle are just lazy shitty faggots, and they passed it on to their kids, so they hate them.
>>77715561
That's my whole point man. Did you read anything I even wrote before you decided to say, "well awwwkshully(lisp) teaching them to swim is good"?
The fucking neighborhood has a pool and a swim team. She's taking a class to eat catered meals with girlfriends and using the kid as an excuse. It's putting my friend in to debt and when he tries to lay down the law she goes insane because if she leave a class her girlfriends will think they are having financial problems aka her husband can't earn. So she went ahead and charged 3 months of classes on the card after he said not to and claimed she thought it was just for a month.
No one doubts swimming is an important skill. Stop being a fucking aspie and desperately picking an argument on the interwebs.
>>77713832
world class tits
>>77715224
It all leads back to the need to fix people.
>>77715831
The King James Bible is the ultimate redpill. What you see in mainstream Christian culture is a lie. They're a bunch of effeminate faggot sissies.
Independent Fundemental Baptist is where it's at
>>77714305
This desu.
>>77715938
Holy shit faggot, you need to calm down. Why are you so mad?
>>77714081
Indeed
>>77714421
Indeed
>>77714654
Good dream but a pipe dream
>>77714802
Your buddy is an idiot, and apparently incapable of having a say in his own relationship.
>>77715224
Ive seen this quite a bit to be honest familia
For me kids are a trade, like anything in life. Sure I lose out on some things that I absolutely miss about being single, but overall its worth it. Theres something to being able to show my kids the same wonder I found in the world. Control their intakes of things, food, media, arts, and get them into things like the boyscouts (always attend to avoid the rape) tball, baseball, soccer. These things will help with appreciation.
Have children and raise them, dont let the state or anyone else do it.
>>77716119
Naw not mad I just got fired up thinking about the insanity of the whole thing he's going through. Feel really bad for him. Best friend for 16 years.
>>77713959
>What you're seeing there is men hating their children because they hate their mother.
THIS
>>77714305
>fag hating badasses
Kill yourself hick
Fathers are unhappy because they fall for the meme that parenthood is just the next stage of life. Having kids has to be something you know you want to do otherwise you will be doing a disservice to your future children. "muh genes" and "muh not being a beta cuck" aren't legitimate reasons. You should also realize and prepare for the scientific fact that the romantic bond between you and your wife will diminish after having children.
>>77714305
>god fearing
>highly educated
>badasses
pick 1
Personally I'm really struggling to understand men who don't want kids.
What could be better than seeing your own son taking his first steps or playing football (not that effin Murican version. Hell, even changing diapers at 2am was fucking awesome when my son was just laughing at me.
Nothing can prevail over the feeling when your own kid grows up. You guys should grow up also and stop that
>hurr durr I can't play video games 24/7 if i get a kid
>>77715739
Children are you responsibility, if you find a good wife and raise them right I believe it's a very rewarding thing to have. If you raise them without a care a buy them happiness they'll turn out well probably. It's all about being a good father.
I'm aware a lot of women are looking for independence and generally think they're teenagers forever, but find a responsible woman who truly loves you. Potentially, this could mean looking into women of different cultures where family values are still maintained. Don't set too high of a standard.
>>77713832
You can have children and not regret it when you
a) find a super traditonal, racist, rightwing woman
b) move to the most godforsaken place in the countryside and homeschool them
c) bonus - stark living self-sufficient to a high degree
Fuck the modern world. It is corrupting children. isolate them from it until you installed the right mindset in them.
>>77713832
I would shag the fuck out of OP pic related.
Those tits are magnificent.
On to the subject matter at hand:
I have 4 children and 2 grand-children.
I got a vasectomy after child #4. So I can fuck bareback all day and night without the constant nagging worry of knocking up another stupid slag.
I was accused once of getting some 30-something crazy cunt pregnant in 2012, but my zero sperm count blew her the fuck out in a court of law.
Needless to say she gave me no children. But she did give me gonorrhea.
>>77714231
>>77715652
So mother and child from age 0-3 or 4 just magically survive without any protection or help from the male until the kids can walk? Wtf that makes no sense
>>77715850
It helps actually.Btw give it a try,you have not too much to lose.
>>77715850
Actually it would. You'll be less anxious, and plus you must get over your fear of being rejected. People get rejected all the time, its not the end of the world.
Just try it. 90 days. I promise you, it'll change your energy levels, drive, and get rid of your social akwardness.
>>77715850
It's complete bullshit. I'm a NEET, and I can easily go a week or more without even thinking about jackin it. Never once has it affected my mood.
>>77714291
man i really dont think you know how lucky you are to not only have parents still together, but also parents who are able to help you get off your feet.
My mom just got fired because she fell on her face drunk at work because shes an alcoholic.
Her mother and father beat her and im pretty sure she has major psycological issues, along with her cousin hanging himself when he was a teen. on top of all of this she didnt pay taxes properly and despite the government first sending her around 30k, she owees them back over 40k and also has around 10k in credit card debts. Depression is fucked up, if you have kids and you had a good start you better give them everything you fucking wop.
>>77713832
yeah because feminism made sure marriage is as miserable as possible. If men were allowed to dominate like they were supposed to they'd enjoy their life and marriage much more
>>77716330
How fucking old are you man?
You're a grandparent yet sound like a 17-year old.
>>77714882
roastie detected
>>77716252
kill yourself fag enabler.
Go march in a pride parade and suck a dick.
>>77713832
Please more of her, preferably pregnant and her nipples attached to a milking machine while she is fucked in her ass.
SCHNELL SCHNELL
>>77716361
You don't understand, those years are meant for making more children with more women, yes, the man is around for everything required for maintaining the brood, such as hunting, fishing, tool-making, ect, but as far as raising the children and dealing with them? No. The women do that, which explains why their entire hormonal and neurochemical state changes after birthing children.
Think of it like how it used to be 50 years ago: Man went out and worked, woman stayed home and dealt with the kids.
>>77716121
This. Yes I would love to be carefree and fuck hot sluts whenever I can, but ultimately I want to raise children who look like me and grow old with a woman who loves and cares for me.
>>77716291
some people want more from life than just farming the next generation of fuck ups/kikes/fags/etc.
>>77716466
>You're a grandparent yet sound like a 17-year old.
And you're 12 and what is this.
Go suck another AIDS-infested pustulating cock.
Summer is over there: >>>/b/
>>77715525
We'll see who's laughing when you're 50 faggot
>>77716569
MUH WHITE RACE U FUCKING DEGENERATE
>>77716569
And how does having kids prevent you from doing that?
Go play some video games, manchild
>>77716466
He's an underaged pretending to be a gwown-up.
>>77713832
I wish to have the cute, affectionate, smart but dependent daughter, but I don't want to deal with vile old 3D whores. Why does life have to be so complicated?
>>77713832
i have children and im loving it. ask me anything.
>>77716661
Wow you sure got me there man.
>>77716451
>give them everything.
Your going to screw up your children. There is literally nothing worse for a child than having everything handed to them. I know for sure it screwed me up. Kids need to struggle to learn how to survive. If I ever end up having kids of my own, you can be damn sure they'll have to do things for themselves.
>>77716759
How big are their tits?
>>77713832
I have two daughters. I love them so much. Eldest is 10 years and youngest is 3 years.
They got me a pair of socks for my birthday with stitching that had the words "my dad is the best".
I melted. I can't describe how I felt.
I got them a dog recently. Similar to pic. (same breed).
>>77713832
>Not wanting kids
Even gays want kids, why someone wouldnt want them?
I want 2-4 children.
>>77713959
>your job in this world is to have as many as possible
Maybe when you had to chase mamooths with your flock
>>77716785
jesus christ what a fucking tool. I should have checked the flag before replying, Mohammed.
>>77714882
>thread about the opinions of men on children
>cumdumpster interjects herself into thread to offer an unsolicited off-topic opinion and draw attention to herself unnecessarily
>somehow not attentionwhore bait
No female, you shut the fuck up.
>>77716965
>6 years from now
>"Dad, I'd like to to meet my boyfriend, Tyreed."
>>77716291
>What could be better than seeing your own son taking his first steps or playing football
Counting all the fuckin money I get to keep for myself and traveling the world banging women as I go!
>>77715533
Why, friend? What specifically is horrific about your experience? I'm intrigued to hear opinions on this. It's too big of a thing for me to get wrong.
>>77716994
>I want 2-4 children.
And that's just for breakfast.
>>77716965
What a stupid looking dog.
>>77713959
>raising kids is alpha
>>77717148
Nah, i would start having problems if i had more than 4.
3 would be perfect, 4 if i get 3 girls to see if i get a boy.
>>77717072
>being so beta you can't raise your kids to hate niggers
don't bother reproducing. there doesn't need to be anymore shitskins
It's usually not the kids fault. They scream and are gross, sure, but they listen if you aren't a shitty parent.
Most of the time it's the mom using her kids as tools to get whatever they want.
>>77716291
>what could be better
Seeing the Appalachian mountains on a foggy morning
Taking a greyhound ride across the country meeting other people
Trainhopping across state lines
Trying different psychadelic drugs to see if they might help make sense of reality
Pretty much everything else.
I think that most men aren't satisfied with fatherhood because they are bombarded with unrealistic images of it.
The media says that fathers should be like mothers - warm, nurturing and accessible. It takes a long time for children to develop empathy, so they typically mistake these behaviors for weakness and grow resentful at (even well meaning) efforts to control them. Given that fathers are often the primary disciplinarian, this causes the "daddy issues" that plague so many young men and women - self-destruction in an effort to overthrow authority that is seen as illegitimate.
Fathers should not "dedicate their lives" to their children. They should live fulfilling lives of their own, and provide models for their children to aspire to. This often involves being distant and providing approval only sparingly. That said, ideally your interests will align as the child attempts to emulate you (if you are a role model).
>>77716533
>preferably pregnant and her nipples attached to a milking machine while she is fucked in her ass.
kek
>>77715533
Holy shit dude...... damn......
>>77713959
>your job in this world is
not decided by you nor nature, my job is whatever I deem worthy of doing
>>77713832
I knocked up a women in her early thirties when I was 24 and I don't regret any of it. My son is pretty awesome. He plays the bongos for me while I'm jamming on my bass guitar. Hope I can have more
>>77713832
>White people risk to be a minority in their own countries because they don't reproduce enough
>Tell white people reproducing is bad
Fuck off shill,
>>77716965
>have two black kids with wife from "former husband"
>"They got me a pair of socks for my birthday"
>I can't describe how I felt.
I dont think words could do justice, you're right
Kids is a waste of money. I have no desire to 'leave my mark' on the world.
Fuck em.
>>77714291
>they joke that its on the condition that we look after them in their old age and never put them in a home but we cant ever really do that to them when they have given us so much.
Anon, that's obviously not a joke and if you're not planning on actually doing it you're an ungrateful little shit and should pay them back the money (at least immediately).
You'd still be a little ungrateful shit though.
You're not though, are you anon?
>>77717363
>The media says that fathers should be like mothers
I'd say screw the media. All fathers on air are either women in pants or stupid beyond saving.
>>77716661
Jesus Christ dude. If you've honestly got 4 kids and 2 grand kids they're probably all living in the same trailer with you
>>77716291
What is the problem with that anyway? It is not like all men suddenly decided to not have children, so better keep it at moderation. Muh feelings is never a good argument.
>>77717459
>don't reproduce enough
Fuck off fag, it's the other way around. Niggers shouldn't be allowed to have any kids at all. Depopulation with a white majority would be the best of both worlds.
>>77716432
>>77715850
I did over 90 day nofap. Nope, unfortunately, its not a fucking miracle cure, fuck that.
>>77717268
>"Daddy, I mentioned what you said about black people today at school and the teacher got really mad at me. She wants to have a parent-teacher conference with you."
>>77716246
Can anyone explain why this might happen? How did a man hating his mother make him hate his own kids?
>>77713959
your power and influence in this world dies the moment you do if you do not have kids.
children are the only way we can guarantee our legacy will continue and progress will be made in our image.
if you have a temper kids aren't for you
if you dont have any patients kids aren't for you
if you are always in a hurry kids aren't for you.
kids are pretty easy, unless you are a degenerate or you have shitty wife who doesn't want to do anything.
once they start walking they become really easy.
>dad tries to get me into arranged marriage with some Chinese girl
>did the one thing he didn't want me to do and got a motorcycle
Thanks Bakuon.
>>77713832
My kids are awesome. The secret to being a good dad is learning to be a kid again yourself.
Plus I get to know that I'm contributing well-raised white children, the greatest gift a man could give the world.
>>77713832
only manchildern cry about having kids
>>77714305
Anon is right, if you're beta blue pill shit and can't lead your wife and family having kids will just intensify the shitassbitchery of you life situation.
Outside this, with a great Christian wife and you being a real man it's fucking great.
Also women are way less likely to want to be lead when they also have to work as much as you and pay half the bills. And frankly they're feminist whores but they do have a sort of point.
Imagine you're a fag and your fag husband makes you oh for shit and still wants you to do the dishes and get fucked and suck dick all the time
>>77717639
good luck with that in a democracy full of shitskins
>>77717363
Christ, why have I never realized this?
Whenever my dad was nice to me I would get bothered. It's a difficult to describe feeling.
>>77717220
You must be black
>>77713832
int he old days women and maids took care of the kids.
>>77713959
>your job in this world is to have as many as possible
fuck off mohammad there's already too many cunts on this planet
>>77714106
>your genetic legacy
>bastard kids who will most likely be sold into sexual slavery
No wonder europeans are dying out. This is their mindset when it comes to their descendants.
>>77714882
Fuck off toasty roastie you won't get male attention here
>>77717554
>Jesus Christ dude. If you've honestly got 4 kids and 2 grand kids they're probably all living in the same trailer with you
No, I live by the old rules that state:
Cleave unto your spouse, go and reside there, and raise up your family.
You're confusing my generation with yours.
>>77714475
I paid off my mortgage at 32 because my wife is the shit and helps save money on everything.
It's like you guys are comparing to the most shit tier possible wives all the time.
Yes if you marry fucking Courtney Love or a MSNBC contributor (inb4 yes they are obviously all dykes) or whatever you're screwed. DONT DO THAT
>>77717639
>Depopulation with a white majority would be the best of both worlds
Why so you can steal other peoples land and culture some more?
>>77717860
Well, you're 50, you browse /pol/, and you type like a teenager. Do I even have to type an insult?
I'm not really gonna bother reading the rest of his thread, but yeah. I'd love to settle down and have a couple of kids.
>>77717363
Yeah this man. I didn't realize this till later, and I give my dad and I distance. It makes the relationship good, gives us lots to talk about when we're together. Its also scary realizing how similar I am to him in many ways.
>>77713832
WHO IS THIS
>>77717801
>Whenever my dad was nice to me I would get bothered
did he come to you late at night when you forgot to lock your door?
did he stroke your hair gently while kissing you softly on the forehead? telling you mama was out with friends and wouldn't be back till tomorrow?
did his gentle hand work his way towards your most private of areas? did it confuse you?
it's love, after all, is what daddy said. big, hard, daddy
>>77717801
It's OK anon. I used to hate my father because he would buy me so many gifts - I thought he was trying to bribe me into respecting him. He didn't have a lot of contact with me (divorce) and didn't know how to be a part of my life. Now I just feel sort of sorry for him, he's very lonely. Although I'll never "look up" to him, I still know that he tried his best and is a goodman. Tell your father you love him.
>>77718097
FFS where did I "type like (You)"? jesus it's like arguing with my nigger neighbor's kids.
>>77714745
>Having kids is the best part of life.
lmao you call other people shills...
>yes goyim, breed more consumers for me. the more people on this planet the more money I can make
you and your ponzi scheme can fuck right off
>>77717860
I'm impressed at the technical competency only. My parents don't even know how to go on the internet senpai.
>>77714475
But who will be around in your feeble elderly years. When you are 70 or 80? Do you think women will be lining up to take care of you then?
Only a kid will fill that role.
You're taking a risk m8
>>77717777
Nice get.
Kids are awesome. At the pool right now.
>>77713959
if you're a thoughtslave to your religion, you're a beta.
>>77716240
I used to get mad at my friends getting whipped, but then I remind myself that "men end up with the women that they deserve". If you're friend is getting cucked into poverty by his wife/gf, then he deserves it for not putting his foot down.
>>77717860
M9, you should probably delete this. I'm not saying I will, but you definitely left too much info on there.
>>77718066
>It's like you guys are comparing to the most shit tier possible wives all the time.
Shitty men marring Shitty women + having kids = recipe for disaster.
>>77715098
>>77714968
>>77714740
>>77714093
>>77716002
>>77716942
Found the beta cucks.
It's literally photoshopped. She'd probably look better if it was natural but you faggots will jack off to anything but inside a real woman.
And yet you all say you're mature enough to talk about the matter in question regarding kids and parenthood?
>>77713832
I won't mind if I have kids because:
>1) I know i'll be a good & stable father
>2) Even if I were to lose my current job, I wouldn't have any trouble finding a new one in my field
>3) I handle stress very well and I am a good mentor (just based off prior positions / work I've done with others)
Currently single and not actively sexual (3 months dry ;_;) but if I were to have a kid I wouldn't freak out much, probably more so if it was with some random bimbo.
>>77715938
This 'friend' is you, imma right?
>>77713959
The men who say this are the ones who are whipped and miserable, and want to shame the rest of the men and drag them down into shared misery.
>>77713832
I want a fuckload of kids, I want to breed an Army of (Me).
Men like having kids. It's because as your child's biological value increases. You get to see your genetics carried on.
Wives on the other hand lose that value because of their loss of attractiveness and ability to have children. Many women don't work or do much at all in a family setting, and when they lose their value of procreation our instincts kick in and see them as parasites. This is why you'll see so many older men tell their kids to never get married.
Basically this >>77715600 plus
6) The mothers raise the kids to hate the fathers, no matter how good they are.
>>77713832
Who the heck is that girl!!! Wow!
Well, I'm currently pregnant with our 3rd and my husband seems perfectly happy.
I don't want kids because:
My son will inevitably be a disappointment to me
and
If I have a daughter I'll have to deal with knowing people will run around trying to fuck her brains out at every chance.
Like how I would utterly fucking ruin the girl in OPs image
>>77714745
>>yes goy, never have kids.
>>they will make you miserable
>>77718284
>yes goyim, breed more consumers for me. the more people on this planet the more money I can make
Lel, /pol/ discussion in a nutshell. But i agree with the kangaroo, the way people are encouraged to have kids is very shortsighted.
>>77717783
>makes you oh for shit
???
>>77713832
i'm still 23 so i might gonna change in the future. but for now, the thought of huge responsibilities etc scares me. i don't want to sacrifice myself for anyone. plus i don't trust women. plus i don't see myself as a good and mature person, so a person like me should not be allowed to breed/raise kids.
>>77716793
what i mean by everything is proper support as a parent and for them to understand the importance of education instead of saying go to school.
I dont mean give your kids an xbox and a ps4 because they threw a fit at eb games.
>>77713832
something something meaningless
>>77718428
I get it. You're a 27-year-old fedora virgin living under mom's house. In the spider-infested damp basement.
Meanwhile, an OLD MAN is getting pussy on the regular, when he should be sitting in the park, feeding pigeons and muttering to himself.
******NEWSFLASH MOTHERFUCKER *******
I get pussy on the regular bucause I'M NOT A FUCKING FAGGOT.
Let that sink in.
Faggot.
Go on.
>>77717783
>Imagine you're a fag and your fag husband makes you oh for shit and still wants you to do the dishes and get fucked and suck dick all the time
Let's not get out of hand here
>>77718597
>makes you owe money for shit
>>77713832
Men don't get 10 gallons of oxytocin just from seeing their kids like women do.
>>77713832
I'd love to have kids. I probably will have kids.
>>77718418
Somebody's jealous. Did the Atkins Diet not work out for you, fatty?
>>77718418
Damn...
>>77713832
I have a little girl (22 months) and she is awesome. I have totally fallen in love with her and she is the best thing that's ever been in my life.
I have got another kid on the way (hoping for a boy but don't really care) people say it's harder with two but I'm willing to chance it
I think you have to be ready to have kids - you'll never be in a position where you think you can afford it, but eventually you feel the gap in your life that only a child can feel. I think if you get talked or trapped before that then you'll resent them
>>77717114
Not really and you know it.
>>77718572
>seems
>>77717311
All that experience, knowledge and all that wiseness you're going to gain with nobody to pass it down to?
Doesn't sound fulfilling
>>77718317
>no kids and still has to work 3 days a week at age 50
does he seem like he's the kind of person who can think ahead?
>>77716252
>You should also realize and prepare for the scientific fact that the romantic bond between you and your wife will diminish after having children.
Your bond DECREASED after having children? You can some of you be doing it so fucking wrong.
Looking at the wonderful little person you literally made together out of love
Itself and watching them grow and all the help and work and stories you share... You have a A REDUCED bond?
It's like some of your families and social circles are so shit that you don't even know what a single actual Christian marriage is like.
It's not she cackles with whore friends watching sex and the city and talking cocks and SUVs while you fap tomporn or ogle other women at strip bar with your jock sniffing "buddies" and then both of you hope the baby sitter didn't beat them too bad while you were away.
I don't want any kids because I don't want my descendants to be the slaves of muslims. Which is whats going to happen because Europe let so many of them in. The future of the world may be fucked but at least I won't have knowingly birthed some kids into it.
>>77718727
He was wrong, you type like an old man trying to type like a teenager and either way it is cringey as hell.
>>77713832
>My sister's husband is a miserable fucking prick after their two kids.
I bet $100 that he is miserable because of your whorish sister, not because of the kids.
>>77713832
>My neighbor just had his third daughter and his drinking has become worse and worse ever since.
Let me guess, his wife is cheating on him and he has doubts if the daughter is his.
>>77713832
>My uncle who came to visit last Easter with his two kids whispered me to never get married
No shit, a wise man indeed. The kids are likely functioning as an anchor to keep him in this failed relationship.
>>77713832
>It seems men really do not enjoy having kids like women do.
You know nothing at all.
>>77713832
Lot of women regret having kids too
I know someone who had kids because they didnt believe in abortion, and a year later they got an abortion because their kids shit too much stress
>>77719086
But dude, he's such a ebin alpha from many years ago lol.
>>77718727
Eldritch bantz/10
>>77717860
Damnit Dad, stop posting your info on here.
i'd ruin it. i'd make my children disobey me and my wife cheat on me. which will result in divorce, kids will do drugs, no one's gonna take care of me when i'm old, and before God take me i'm gonna kill myself after i kill my ex wife and her well endowed lover. family life is not for a fucked up person like me. i can't even love myself how am i supposed to love someone ?
>>77718975
Feel that gap only a child can FILL
excuse bad England pls
>>77718727
Incredibly accurate, old man. But I'll tell you this. I've done the girlfriend thing, and it's not for me. I especially don't like the concept of random sex. I've had random girls at bars give me their numbers, and strippers give me preferential treatment. I'm beautiful, but I'm lazy and I don't give into the feminine jew.
You're a literal slave to pussy.
Let that sink in.
Faggot.
Go on.
>>77718975
Good on you, anon
>>77718418
>talk about the matter in question
>the matter
>in question
unless the "matter" was the bra size in OPs pic nobody responded to it all
keep lurking newfag
maybe at some point you get lucky and your man titties will just be as big as hers
>>77717860
Now your tits.
>>77718572
keyword:
> seems
also, tits or gtfo
>>77716291
Some people should just not have children. Being a father does not automatically make one a good parent. I think it's far better for people to realize parenthood is not a good fit for them instead of just hoping things work out once the kid is born. A lot of abuse and abandonment could be avoided this way.
>>77716560
LOL cuck! jacking to trap anime all day and dying in the MGTOW nursing home is where it's at
>>77718975
>but eventually you feel the gap in your life that only a child can feel
cool stockholm syndrome/post hoc rationalisation bro
>>77718975
can you even sleep with the thought of "what if A got sick ? what if it's a serious illness that costs a lot of money ? what if there's an earthquake when i'm away ? what if they got kidnapped ?"
>>77717860
>hair color
>gay
>>77717311
Do that stuff first when you're young. It gets tragic once you start getting to a certain age. When the time is right you'll start getting over that and you'll want kids.
>>77716252
Fathers are unhappy because of their wives, not their kids.
>>77717114
Yes and then you and your money can grow old together and talk about all the great times you shared while your surrounded by all your little Harriet Tubman grandchildren.
It will be great anon, you're making the right choice!
>>77719465
Man is born into a chaotic world, he creates order where he can but can't control everything.
>>77719485
Maybe he has rainbow hair
>>77719559
>men blame women for their shit taste in women
>women blame men for their shit taste in men
It's fucking hilarious.
>>77713832
Would totally put up with having kids if it meant I'd get to bang her
>>77719465
>Earthquakes
>In the UK
>>77719212
Come back to us, rightfull Dutch clay.
>>77717311
Yes being a hobo druggie sounds WAY better than shaping your own flesh and blood into proud men and women and crying with joy when they get married or graduate or have kids of their own
>>77717489
Id obviously never put them in a home unless they became vegetables and it was a medical requirement. They can crash on my coach forever.
I am going to need someone to mind my kids arnt I?
>/pol/ autists will never know the feel of coming home from work to this
>>77716089
No, Catholicism is where its at.
>>77713832
I'd like to bust a nut in her cunt
>>77713832
ur mates are just young i guess
39 now and I'de love kids if only i could find a non leftist cunt to put them in
men eventually get a biological clock too
I even spent months with an ultra christian no sex before marriage type till she broke it off fml
>>77718975
I recommend you this book:
http://thebooksummaries.com/selfish-reasons-to-have-more-kids-by-bryan-caplan/
It explains how the "having more tan two children is too complicated and requires too much time" thing is a meme, and how kids end up growing and maturing better with big brothers and sisters to take care of them and little ones to learn how to care for them. Great read.
>>77719780
>cucktholicism
>>77719761
>wanting to come home to someone with a blown out cunt holding something that continuously screams, shits and soaks up all of your funds
>cuckold detected
>>77718987
Well, I don't know what he's thinking. If he seems unhappy, then I'll do my best to make him happier. Have you not been in a serious relationship before?
>>77719780
>No, Eastern Orthodox is where its at.
FTFY.
>>77717860
>>77717860
took me 3 mins to find you faggot. stay tuned for dump
>>77716089
>Baptist
>Protestantism
>Ever
>>77719725
Non-sarcastically agree senpai. It is WAY better. .
>>77719714
the great ones who ruled us had died. you're just a person like me, we're on the same level.
>>77718418
>you faggots will jack off to anything but inside a real woman.
>jack off to anything but inside a real woman.
What did he mean by this?
>>77719877
>not knowing what kegels are
>vagina avoider detected
Stay NEET.
Stay virgin.
Stay mad, faggot.
>>77714305
>God-fearing
>highly educated redpilled
pick one
>>77719970
Vaginas are gross
>>77714475
That pic of the sesame street gang and Hitler gives me a giggle.
I'm a 50 y.o. with 2 kids. Waited till my late 30s. The only time I hate it is when I forget to take time for myself and get resentful at the demands of being a parent.
>be me, 8 years ago.
> have a 6 year old daughter.
went to private Montessori "hippie" school, now 4.0 a.p. in best district in the state, per us need and world report bullshit study
>no discussion of or overt position on homosexuality in our hosehold
Wife and I went to college, better things to do then hate on gays.
>dinner table topic "same sex marriage" because some event triggered the discussion
>No television in house, no fucking idea why, but there it was.
Dad has to caress the topic, leader of family and uch
>"While most times men and women decide to marry because they love each other, occasionally men and men, or women and women, love each other enough that they want to get married."
This is a 6 or 7 year old girl, with no indoctrination
>whattheactualfuck.jpg . That isn't right.
Things like that, my young /pol/ish friends, is what makes it all worth while
>>77713832
There is a high risk involved with having kids, because there is always a chance that they will end up being raised by a single mother. This is child abuse.
I have two kids, and my house is in order. I'm not rich and I'm not dependent. I just don't by my kids a bunch of shit that makes them soft, and I make them play sports.
>>77719761
you mean this. stop trusting women, m8, they're all the same. they're all just a pair of tits and vagina.
>>77720009
>he thinks that idealised picture is in any way representative of 99% of breeders
lmao enjoy your obese wife cuck
>>77719864
>a fucking leaf
yea fuck off retard
>>77718572
>seems
>>77717220
>not forming your own family clan
>alpha
I do.
But I will never marry at this rate ;_;
>>77718418
That's definitely not shopped. Try using photoshop before making such claims.
Also I didn't say anything about kids and parenthood at all, just commented on stellar tits.
>>77720153
holy fucking shit
Straya, forget I asked
>>77714475
>50yo
>Saturday night spent on /pol.
>>77713832
OP it sounds like everyone you know is either black, or extremely weak. Having kids is literally one of the greatest things in life. If none of those people that you know can't hack having a kid then fuck em. Buncha pussies.
>>77718597
Sorry anon should have read - "Makes you *pay* for shit"
fucking faggy iPhone plus giant monkey thumbs plus REEEEEEE and autocorrect is a recipe for a million shit typos
>>77720188
One of the few things sandniggers got right was death to adulterers.
>>77718727
Hello summer.
>>77720153
Are you the same guy that posts nigger dick all the damn time?
>>77720306
that's like all /pol/
>>77718727
Your dick is going to work passably well for a handful of more years. Then what is your life going to be - getting hot bitches to feed you chicken soup?
>>77713832
>not wanting to have kids
it's like you want your bloodline and legacy passed on to you by your ancestors to die
you wouldn't let hundreds of thousands of years of effort just go to waste, right?
I'm 24 so I still have plenty of time, but I'm just very worried about raising kids in America. The thought have having my future daughter turn into a feminist liberal arts major scares me. And the possibility of my future son turning into a spineless white knight is also scary.
Of course if I have a kid(s) I plan to take them hunting and teach them other things like that. But a parent can only have so much influence on their child's life. The rest of it comes form peers and media.
>>77720306
cucks with children have no time to themselves so they think 'the weekend' is important.
>>77713959
alphas have kids, betas raise them.
>>77718532
That's quite often true, women become bitter post divorce because they sacrificed some of their best years (if they're smart) towards buying a good mate on the sexual market place and as that fades it means their 2nd go around wont net them anyone better, especially now they have baggage. That resentment is taken out on the man via the proxy of the child.
It's worth noting that children to single parents do very badly, statistically speaking single parenthood (more specifically single motherhood) is a greater predictor of future child issues than both race and class. There's a certain element of being responsible for your childs quality of life as they grow up and with such power given to women via the state you cannot reasonably gaurantee that, which means you have a tricky choice to make if you care about potential future progeny.
Even if it was completely risk free for me I wouldn't have a child in the world we have today.
>>77718975
I've noticed that people who say they found purpose in life because they had kids were really underachieving in life before hand.
People who had no passion, who just go through the motions, and then dump all their unfulfilled ambitions and expectations onto their kids.
This is where nagging and overbearing and controlling parents come from. They project their own failures.
You should get your shit together and do something in life that you're passionate about and THEN have kids.
>>77720290
It is shittily shopped thoguh. Her left tit is blurry and the fold under it looks unnatural, not to mention the bended seat and left hand.
>>77713832
Personally I can't wait to have kids. Currently dating a beautiful religious girl that's not a dumb whore like every other girl I've dated. She's still a virgin and waiting for marriage, I'm 100% okay with that.
All I know is that if I have daughters they can have cell phones, after I take a nail and hammer to the camera of course.
>>77720363
being cheated on can change a person. you're never gonna be the same person again. that's why you don't get married.
>>77720588
Just get them an old school Nokia.
>>77720588
>religious
>not dumb
>waiting for marriage
>not dumb
>>77713832
I'd like kids, but only if they were already like 5 or older. I wouldn't want to deal with those shits until then
>>77720452
people actually care about it ? omg, just live.
>>77720454
If you had a job you'd understand why the weekend is important. Nice job outing yourself there, NEETbro.
>having kids when you're not financially stable or mature enough
>having no kids at all
Which one /pol/?
>>77720245
Well, I try to make sure he's happy. The problem in my opinion is when both parents work. I'm a firm believer that the wife should stay at home: clean, cook, take care of the kids, etc. and the husband should work. It's just more natural.
>>77713832
Not all but "most" of the people who I'v met who don't have kids are extremely selfish and authoritarian like. They have extreme narcissism usually, very little compassion for anything.
They hate the thought that they would have to share their energy and time to raise a human being.
They are actually worse than single mom's who exploit the system.
Degenerates indeed.
>>77720697
>omg, just live
I hate this meme so fucking much
>>77717860
Mr. Fortin?
>>77720575
No, it's not shopped. Same as the other guy, don't try pointing out shops if you've never used the program and have no idea what you're talking about, you sound very silly. No offense meant tho.
>>77720691
>I'd like kids, but only if they were already like 5 or older. I wouldn't want to deal with those shits until then
Yeah, they're fun for 30 minutes.
>>77720710
Hilarious how you completely avoid what was actually being discussed to try and throw a completely false red herring.
Wife and I own our own business. If you think 'the weekend' is the only free time you have your life must be pathetic.
When you realise what a time and money sink children are you'll drown them in the bathtub.
>>77719761
That's sexist
>>77720768
>I'm a firm believe that the wife should stay at home: browse /pol/...
FTFY
Also, you know the rules. Tits or GTFO.
>>77719902
I'm tuned.
>>77713832
It seems like they do actually ruin your life honestly, financially anyway
>be 22
>Got my meme STEM degree
>making dollars, playing vidya, fucking bitches and staying single
Why would I ever want a kid? If I can keep living this hedonistic lifestyle? Fuck getting married, just keep fucking the hottest girls and don't get married.
>>77720873
Are you able to explain how the picture is not manipulated, after i pointed out what is wrong with it?
>>77720684
It's like you've never heard of statistics fedora
>>77720611
Don't know about Indonesian women, but most American women have been subverted.
>>77720306
what should he be doing?
>>77720936
Haha, I've been on 4chan since I was in high school, when I'm sick or have down time, I always like to post here.
Do you disagree though? Do you actually want a wife who works and leaves the kids with a sitter?
>>77721070
lmao nice thumbnail dipshit
>fedora
oooh a hat comment, how original.
>>77713832
Have more white kids faggots.
>>77720611
Or maybe you should stop being a sobbing bitch that centers yourself around a female for comfort.
Take care of yourself first before you invite foreigners into your life.
>>77720684
Oh Australia, you shit posters you. Haha but really I'd take a religious gal over a lose whore any day. Besides I'm not 20 anymore, I learned whores only break your heart. And balls.
>>77720991
None of the areas you pointed out look like they were altered, at all. Even if they were, why would the person only edit one tit? That doesn't make sense. Just from the exposed cleavage you can tell this girl has giant tits.
It's difficult to create an argument for why a photo isn't altered... the burden of proof is more on the side of someone claiming it is altered, and there's nothing about her left boob that indicates it is.
>>77720808
Nothing is worse than single mothers
>>77717755
He mean's hating the kid's mother.
>>77721329
Except the ones trying to rope some sap into raising their bastard children.
>>77721075
they're all the same. and america is notorious for its female cheaters
>>77721286
>hurrr if you're not religious you're a whore
>my definition of a whore is anyone that has seen a penis
Basically what you're saying is you have mummy issues and you're projecting that onto others. Gotcha.
Oh, and just because a girl doesn't want to touch your dick doesn't make them a 'whore'
>>77721329
Yea, childless males who are fertile and choose not to have children are worse.
>>77713832
I must be a break in the mold.
>47 Years old
>4 Kids
>3 Boys and 1 Girl
>Eldest boy (27) is in uni studying medicine, plans on becoming a practicing GP
>The girl (25) is married and has given me two wonderful grandkids so far
>Next boy (22) just finished his trade as an electrician and has just shifted across the country to start work in Perth.
>Youngest boy (19) has started a trade as a plumber and is enjoying himself immensely, even if the little prick is still living at home.
I have always had an active role in my kids lives, always made sure I spent at least 2 hours a day helping them with schoolwork where I could or teaching them how to fix things. Helped the eldest boy restore an old car and have helped the others with other long term projects.
What people forget is that your children are a reflection of you, if you have bad children there is a fair chance you are a bad parent.
The only regret I have is that their mother was taken from them, it should have been me who died of cancer and not her, but that is a story for a different day.
It's fun to see basement dwellers speculate what it's like to have kids, compared to the people who actually have them.
Kids are fucking horrible.
>>77721212
Oh no you've defeated the actual fucking facts of reality with your meme.
Yes, fuck like crazy then settle in with a woman who has been doing the same. Contrary to the accumulated wisdom of the human species and also decades of empirical research - this will make your life become great.
If it's shit instead try posting the pic and see if that works
>>77721145
Yes, I agree with you. I'm a traditionalist in that sense.
However, I believe that it's going to be so difficult to find a woman who actually wants to live that way that it's better to opt out of the hunt altogether. After all, I'm sure plenty of women will say that they want to raise the kids and stay at home, but won't actually hold those values once you're shackled to them.
>>77720873
Are you literally retarded?
>>77721506
Not in a million years, retard.
>>77713832
easter?
>>77713832
You just have to be ready for it. My kid has made me a happier person.
>>77718077
The creators of culture need not steal it.
>>77721564
>fucking facts of reality
You mean the facts contained in the unreadable/unsourced thumbnail you posted?
You surely have met your burden of proof... I'm glad that's all you need to do to win an argument.
fuckwit
>>77721506
What if said childless males were shitskins?
>>77720153
POST MOAR FAGGOT
>>77721265
i can take care of myself and i'm still not gonna share my life with anyone.
>>77721586
Well, then you are not a man, you are a degenerate.
>>77720153
Thank you Australia, I guess that point needed to be proven.
>>77721482
Or I'm speaking from my personal experience with many women of lose morals. Never said a woman not touching my dick makes them a whore either.
>someone woke up on the wrong side of the dingo
>>77721671
Shitskins who breed are still better than white males who don't breed.
It shows that the white males who don't breed are even more degenerate and selfish.
>>77721534
RIP to your wife man. Glad your kids turned out well though.
>>77721816
In that case, single mothers are subhuman.
>>77721701
That's because you are a degenerate who has little to offer this world. You probably think you are entitled and the world owes you. faggot.
>>77721583
No, not being able to recognize a photoshop doesn't make you retarded, but it does make you kind of stupid, which you literally are if you think that is one.
>>77721869
>my personal experience
>'lose' morals
so basically exactly what I said then? Rightio.
>>77721975
>shitskins who x are better than whites who don't x
this is what breeders actually believe
>>77722015
Nah, they are lost and confused. They still had the kid, they didn't abort.
You are simply a selfish little cunt. ;)
>>77722008
Yeah mate, I think they are doing well, I am a bit concerned about the youngest one still being at home at 19, but then again he only just started his apprenticeship.
Going to give him another year or so then give him the talk about shifting out and starting his own way in the world, will do the same thing I did for my other 3 and help him find a place and take him out shopping and what not and help him learn to live within his means.
>>77721534 #
My mum had cancer take her, fucked up everything in my family real bad but my dad pulled us through. I find a small measure of peace knowing people like you and dad aren't isolated outliers in society, thank you. I live near Perth so I wish your son the best of luck.
>>77721975
>selfish
i mean, how ? some people are just not ready for all the complicated and costly stuffs. plus, marriage kills freedom. means it kills happiness. life would be the same everyday, plain, boring, stressful, and you're accompanied with a pair of tits that cheats on you.
>>77721583
Seriously every woman I know that started out as a career woman just wanted to stay home with her kids once they became mothers
>>77716291
"struggling" = brainwashed sjw
>>77717860
... He's from Maine... those people are back water white trash.... I believe he is a 50 yo with the maturity level of a 17 yo.... They also have a huge drug problem in that frozen place.
>>77722269
Dude my first job after college I still lived at home. Granted I traveled 90% of the year so it was basically just free storage but 19 is definitely not a big deal.
>>77722188
> this is what breeders actually believe
If you aussies were smart you would breed kangaroos in the states and sell the meat to rival the beef industry.
Instead you get cucked by your government and banned from playing violent video games.
>>77722523
It was different for his generation back in the day.
>>77722279
Mate what is Perth like, I went for a trip there back with the missus in '88 and I went for a quick trip over to help the young fella shift in but I really don't know the place well, what places should be avoided and what not.
>>77722518
That fucking image.
>>77722188
Haha no not at all like you said but that's okay, im still quite happy with my religious non-whore lady. You enjoy that dingo though, heard they are kinda whores
>>77722081
and if i had a child i would have more to offer this world ? a child who was raised by a self hating secretly bisexual person ? if i had kids i'm sure they'd become criminals or drug addicts. and my wife would cheat on me. i can't help it that's just me, it can't be changed by anyone.
>>77720588
I understand that you'd want your daughters to be virtuous or whatever the fuck, but children are not property
>>77722553
>breeding something IN america
>somehow australia gets money for this
errr ok.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/14/california-set-to-ban-kangaroo-imports-despite-lobbying-efforts-by-australia
Welcome to life.
Nobody wins.
Everybody loses.
All choices are bad.
>>77722367
You don't need to be married to have children.
Just don't accept a female with high demands, find a female who works and expects very little.
If she demands all sort of shit from you, dump her, no matter how hard she makes your dick. Get rid of her.
Yea, i know it's rough these days to find that but they are out there. Simply don't let your dick guide you, let good reason and logic guide you.
>>77722523
>>77722613
Yeah it was different back in the day but I have always helped my kids shift out by the time the were 18 or 19, I would rather them go out and try to succeed and fail then sit at home and not try at all.
They all know that if it gets to hard financially they can come back for a bit till they get on their feet but they have to get out and work at it.
>>77722693
My favourite part is the part where you still avoid justifying your retarded beliefs.
Wouldn't surprise me if you were a crosscuck too, you've got the critical thinking skills of one
You do know you can get therapy to treat your mummy issues?
>>77720808
They may be shit but they aren't worse than single mothers who exploit the system.
think about it, AMAF couple, the woman will cheat with the white soldier. WMWF, the woman will cheat with the black gardener. but BMWF ? who she gonna cheat with ? who else is above him ? i'm asian that's why i'm never gonna be married. because i'm not the best and everyone around me is better than me.
>>77722776
Well then friend... it looks like I have work to do.
>>77722203
Raising a child without a father is scientifically proven to cause a whole host of psychological and sociological problems in the kid. If you have the option, I say abort.
>>77717860
>5'11"
MANLET ALERT
>>77713832
Nah, in almost all the cases I know children just put their dads in an asylum, to remember them only when they're about to die, and to cry hypocritically in their funerals.
"Having children to not grow old alone" is a complete lie. You're going to be alone when you're old anyways.
In my case, I'm too selfish to have children.
>>77722904
Single mothers may seem awful but they are easily flabbergasted by simply overloading their mind.
Most males just don't understand human psychology. They believe the female should think like them and want what they want.
It's a bitch, bitches need to get fucked, they need their minds occupied, they need to be disciplined.
I can assure you, a bitch who is afraid of a boyfriend who provides for her is a bitch who will stick around and be a good partner if she knows what is good for her.
If she chooses otherwise, stay away from it. Don't chase it. Let that bitch dig her own hole.
>>77722636
Slower than the east in life style, more conservative in general. Don't go to Armadale, Bentley and Northbridge on a Saturday night and you'll be right, there's more to do since back then, I'm only 24 but my families been in W.A. before me.
Most of the cities anywhere between north of the river and an hour south to Mandurah are quiet and have a few bogans here and there but the drug problem is not as bad as most other people from perth like to rant on about. Lots of sight seeing and great beaches. Go way far south if you want real nature though like rain forests etc.
Perth is pretty much 10years behind somewhere like Sydney due to both distance and our resources funding the east in terms of tech and infrastructure but it sure as shit is fuckloads more conservative than the east.
>>77722982
abortion is worse, give life a chance and stop being a narrow minded libtard.
>>77719907
Every other denomination is 100% cucked with effeminate faggots who say they're conservative, but rally around liberal causes.
Things like
>loving gays
>loving refugees
>showing your emotions as a man
>gender equality
>>77723714
there's nothing wrong with showing your emotions as a man, aslong as you do it in a manly way
>>77721290
>>77723924
Checkmate.
>>77714496
I think 2 would be enough. No more than 3. After that I'm getting fixed.
>>77723714
You forgot
>seeing muslims as their brothers
Shit is ridiculous.
>>77721975
>selfish
Nothing more selfish than bringing a new life into this shithole world because you are a slave to your ego and animal instincts. Kids that don't exist, don't suffer or die.
Fuck society. Society isn't an individual person that can feel suffering. People should not be brought into existence just to benefit others. All parents are child abusers really.
And if you are a Christian, wow, you'd create life that has a chance of being subjected to ETERNAL DAMNATION? Christian parents are true evil.
>>77713832
if you're asking at instinctual (id) level, then No, men don't want kids, they only want to fuck, hunt, fight, explore, build
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