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10 years of hard work battling this shit and others, and I just got laid off. Good luck when your arms and legs are being chopped off civil war style.
>>77696049
what did you mean by this
>>77696049
Sorry about your aids anon
>>77696128
MRSA research, probably.
Get a scratch, lose a limb.
>>77696128
Pan resistant bacteria. You get a minor infection and die.
>>77696128
e-coli = bacteria
>>77696049
>10 years of hard work battling this shit and others
Are you battling against Tuberculosis or what?
>>77696049
Sucks to be you.
>>77696213
MRSA is nothing. Try Vrsa. Or pan resistant Kleb, Pseudo. Acieto, Ecol. You don't understand. We're all going to die horrible deaths.
>>77696128
Sounds like his project to make other antibiotics got canned and now current antibiotic resistant bacteria will fuck out shit up.
>>77696250
All it's gonna do is thin the herd a bit.
I think this is the part where he takes his stolen lab samples to his home made lab in his hidden basement and cultures genetically modified versions that he sends to random people with warnings about how the pharmaceutical industry is intentionally creating these bus to reduce human population and enslave us all with overpriced "remedies" that only pause, not cure the pathogens.
>>77696389
>What are antibodies
>>77696389
We lived and evolved for millennia without antibiotics.
>>77696530
>these bus...
bugs
Living on a ten square foot island doesn't seem so stupid now, does it?!
>>77696548
With lots of death. This is pretty tragic ihmo
i see an resident evil tier scenario coming.
>>77696548
With an average life expectancy of 4.
>>77696399
Dumbfuck. There is no project.
>>77696534
are there lab made monoclonal antibodies agaist bacteria?
>>77696389
Are you being dramatic? Is this a possibility or an an inevitability?
>>77696585
Ten square feet?
Yeah, there'll probably be a Starbucks...
Well it's been nice knowing everybody
>>77696614
It is a scary prospect for sure, but we will find a way. Have faith in mankind
>it's a roleplay thread
Just cut to the chase so we can all leave.
>>77696701
Talk to any virologist. They all turn into depressed hypochondriacs that will refuse to even shake hands.
(Seriously, some of that shit if uber scary)
>>77696701
He's not being dramatic. It's a very real threat.
>you lived just in time to see all those chads and stacies die horribly to disease.
OH SHIT I'M FEELING IT, TAKYON
>>77696585
>Living on a ten square foot island doesn't seem so stupid now, does it?!
Population density
>255.6/km2
Its seems extremely fucking retarded, unless you live in Northern Scotland you are basically dead are ready.
>Sweden
>21.5/km2
Feels good to have some personal space
>>77696049
It doesn't help when wogs use antibiotics on every fucking thing.
>>77696757
>Have faith in mankind
It's a little hard doing that these days.
>>77696049
just think of how many pajeets or mexicants they can hire for your old salary man!
>>77696049
where can i subscribe
to your blog
>>77696049
That pic is fake, btw. LB agar plates are orange. They're the most common by far. There are blood agar plates, but they're rarely used, and they're darker red.
>>77696049
from the catalog I thought I was on /v/ and this was a C&C thread with that thumbnail...
OP is right. The day of antibiotics is over. It was great while it lasted, though. Stay out of the water!
This shit is even resistant to that fungus or whatever that acted like a super-antibotic found in soil?
ITT : Things you die to because you don't know how to treat cuts or simply clean.
Virologists are walking memes.
"I've been studying this thing for 30 years and still can't do anything so I might as well have been eating my own shit."
We were never supposed to live past 30 anyway
Nature is getting rid of the degeneracy
>>77696701
Pan resistant bugs are already tearing through our patients in central PA. It's here.
>>77696701
Germs are becoming resistant to antibiotics, it's inevitable and been a long time coming. It's evolution in action and has been expedited by over-prescription and people misusing them (not taking the full course, etc)
They still have a few tricks, like augmenting penicillin with other crap that makes you shit blood.
>>77696624
Fuck. We better bring over more muslim child doctors, stat.
>>77697103
So why were you fired? :^)
>>77696049
Finally no more aid to African niggers.
>>77696956
I take it back. It could be a blood agar plate. I googled it and some are lighter than the ones I buy.
>>77696389
mrsa is fairly big it stays with you for life. It seems now if I get a cut below a certain depth it gets infected.
I'd love to know how to cure it for good. It almost killed my land lord.
>>77696049
SAY IT WITH ME FAGGOTS:
>BACTERIOPHAGE
My mom has a UTI that's resistant to what her doctor prescribed her. She had to go to the emergency room.
>>77697104
This. It's guns, gems, and steel all over again.
>>77697103
>tfw live in mechanicsburg
You should have stolen the research and continued it in your basement all Hollywood style.
YOU SHOULD HAVE LISTENED!
Fuck yea, medieval style here we go!
>Write amazing medieval poetry.
>Burn a witch and oppress a peasant.
>Get scratch.
>Die.
>But not before pic related.
>>77696902
The answer will be genetic modifications, relax bro.
It's a horrible thing to say but the earth would probably really appreciate another plague, it would solve a lot of third world problems.
>>77697195
I shouldn't have said it gets infected I have a resurgence. I don't take antibiotics everytime it happens, antibiotics don't seem to do shit for mrsa, not once have I noticed a difference when I was prescribed something. Supposedly they should be doing a culture and prescribing a combo from there, but they don't.
If anyone knows any alternative remedies or a possible cure for it that would be awesome. I'm sure it can be cured like other things.
>>77697363
Would it, though? Look at all the resources wasted on Ebola. Was it worth it?
>>77696389
Go on
>>77697001
This.
>>77697215
Nigga please! We don't want to hear about your moms diseased vag
>>77697363
Infectious diseases tend to be bolstered by highly clustered populations. We create a breeding ground of bacteria and viruses and are only still alive because of antibiotics and vaccines.
Without modern medicine we'll be forced to live third world style; out in the wilderness in small tribes.
>>77697479
Maybe instead of vaccines we should just teach while blood cells to attack them more accurately.
>>77697333
Harrisburg is shit. Central leb co innawoods is good tho
spread to sweden please! this shit hole needs a fucking purge
yes, yes, well done bacteria, well done bacteria
HOWEVER
nah, these types of superbugs are easily eliminated just by closing down the hospitals.
>>77696049
>get into biology program due to affirmative action
>yolo all through college
>get a job so company meets diversity quota
>job finds out minority hire knows jack shit
>>77696049
Blame OCD retards who feel the need to rub hand sanitizer on themselves every five minutes becayse theyre afraid of common germs and bacteria that weve lived with for thousands of years. Now that same somewhat harmless bacteria has evolved to be stronger than ever before.
If you get sick just because someone touched the base of their cock (literally just skin) for two seconds while pissing sterile piss and didnt wash their hands, youre a genetic failure and should kill yourself. Now thanks to you OCD sacks of shit we have anti-resistant flesh eating bacteria because "EW GERMS!"
>>77697479
Ebola is just a taste of what could come. We'd eventually have to say fuck it quarantine entire land masses.
Feels good to live on a tiny Island in the middle of nowhere
i hate going to /pol/ and getting new anxieties
>>77696389
>Or pan resistant Kleb
Successful treatment of pan-resistant Klebsiella pneumoniae ...
jmm.microbiologyresearch.org/content/journal/jmm/10.../jmm.0.023010-0?...true...
by RM Humphries - 2010 - Cited by 36 - Related articles
Case Report. Successful treatment of pan-resistant Klebsiella pneumoniae pneumonia and bacteraemia with a combination of high-dose tigecycline and colistin.
>>77696049
You autist, disease isn't a threat to us. Prob why you got laid off, your career was pointless.
Whilst you are unemployed, I will be sitting here disease free having a fabulous time.
>>77697215
Insist on a urine culture
>>77697117
Is that shit even worth drinking? I still have a full glass bottle from some high-end hotel gift and it just looks like a home decoration.
This is a stealth Hillary thread. Hillary is planning to attack trump on science, because trump is so openly dismissive of all sciencd
>>77697817
It will reach you too, Achmed. That attitude is what allowed it to spread in the first place.
Nanotechnology will be the new frontier in medicine.
Nanotech to kill resistant bacteria, cure cancer etc.
>>77697715
It's not the germs we know that will get us. Wait until something species jumps and the world gets small pox 2.0.
>>77697195
>>77697421
>If anyone knows any alternative remedies or a possible cure for it that would be awesome. I'm sure it can be cured like other things.
Iodine will absolutely BTFO any bacteria. Copper and silver work similarly, but copper gets toxic very quickly and silver is expensive. If you just put a fuckton of iodine in some distilled water and use that for your drinking water, coffee water etc it will make your blood and digestive tract stronger against bacteria. Iodine is a real fucking killer to bacteria but its safe for you to take many ten of thousands % more than the recommended daily amount
Bacteria cannot develop any resistance to it
>>77697944
The rich will still get expense phage treatments. So, it's all okay.
>>77697998
Too clarify, by a fuckton I mean like a few drops of lugols solution per gallon
>>77697944
Disease is wayyy exaggerated. It is barely even a thing.
>>77697944
>attention whoring so hard
>being this buttmad
>>77696701
Unless we actually manage to create an artificial immunologic system using a swarm of nanobots, it's an inevitability.
>>77697964
The future of medicine is in genetics.
The powers blocking human GE will change tune pretty quick when the time comes.
>>77697908
Its a good reusable glass bottle, better than getting JEW'd by BPA plastic bottles. It tastes fine, not worth saving
>>77698106
People like this are why I hope the OP is right.. and they are the majority, not just some small group of dunces.
>>77697191
Some have more blood volume in them for some reason, making them appear more red.
>What's the point of advanced modern medicine when I never get sick? Lell.
It's not like there's public health initiatives that keep you from getting sick in the first place.
>>77698181
People with genetic blood disease in Africa turned out to be immune to Malaria.
By removing what seems to be a genetic mistreat you could be exterminating yourself.
What people see as good features is subjective, and you'll get raped in the ass by nature.
>>77698214
Humors and vapors. All you really need is a good leaching.
Maybe you shouldn't have been a crappy worker.
>>77696049
You know who is to blame, right? Big agriculture.
>>77696049
>reverse image search
>>77697333
My gf lives in mechanicsburg, is it really that bad? I've never heard her talk about people being sick
>>77696701
people are overly exaggerating.
Yes bacteria will probably become completely resistant to conventional antibiotics, so what?
Remember this. If there was a real thread a solution would have already been found.
Just wait a couple of years for CRISPR to be better researched and the threat will go away.
>>77696049
>reading The Stand
>tfw this post shows up
>>77696049
>be research
>havent solved it after 10 years
>accomplished nothing
>get fired
NOT
FUCKING
SURPRISING
>>77698322
sickle cell is fucking horrible. The red blood cells are crescent shaped and can rip up your blood vessels.
They did some study in denmark or finland where they stopped antibiotic use and the amount of resistant bacteria dropped right off. They were outcompeted by regular bacteria not wasting resources on defence mechanisms.
Obviously not an ideal solution but we arent going to have a bacterial apocalypse.
>>77696443
based russia, i can't wait til you guys move into europe again
>>77696049
develop more bacteriophages
>>77698545
Yes but not sickle cell type, thats what helps people survive, not full-blown.
>>77698515
It's our future
http://gizmodo.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-crispr-the-new-tool-1702114381
>>77698654
> puh puh please like me russia! You're so strong!
>>77698459
She's fine unless she works in healthcare
>>77698747
Only for embryos? Just developed crohns and really dont plan on living my life as an invalid.
>>77697001
Hah, I don't even really clean my cuts that well, or rather, I work in a factory so washing every night re-opens any scab that does form and washes away all that work my body was doing.
Infections tend to go away just fine so long as I take active care of them and use generous amounts of rubbing alcohol and peroxide. Just watch, one day I'll get gangrene and lose an arm or three because of this.
>>77698214
No the majority are retards like yourself who are deathly afraid of anything touched by another human and rub handsanitizer on yourself every chance you get, killing all your good bacteria and allowing our mildly bad bacteria to grow resistant and become stronger.
>OH MUH GERD, YOUR AVERAGE RESTAURANT MENU HAS POO GERMS ON IT! YOUR KEYBOARD? COVERED IN POO! THAT BOWL OF PEANUTS AT THE BAR? MIGHT AS WELL CALL IT POO-NUTS, AM I RIGHT??? YOUR REMOTE CONTROL? POO! A DOORKNOB? SOMEONE MIGHT AS WELL SMEARED A THICK LAYER OF SHIT ALL OVER IT! POO! POO! POO! THERES POO EVERYWHERE!
All this fearmongering over basic bacteria found on common appliances when next to nobody gets sick from going to a restaurant or typing on your keyboard at work. Obviously we have evolved to deal with this bacteria naturally, so why be afraid of it?
Your fear of basic bacteria has whats caused this anti-resistant bacteria to develop- by introducing hand sanitizer and antibiotics to kill formerly harmless bacteria thats now developed into horrid deseases and infectiond. You have no one to blame but yourself.
>>77698914
Sorry to hear that mate
> with CRISPR/Cas9, it’s theoretically possible to modify the genomes of any animal under the sun. That includes humans. CRISPR could one day hold the cure to any number of genetic diseases, but of course human genetic manipulation is ethically fraught and still far from becoming routine.
>>77696049
Where did you work, OP? What was their reasoning for not allowing you to continue research? If it's this serious, are they just fucking stupid to not allow research to counter it? Or was a there a monetary motive, (not enough or too much)?
>>77699130
This is true but sanitation has also saved billions of lives so far, it may just come back to bite us now - but it was a far from stupid endeavour. We just didnt understand 'good bacteria' for a long time.
>>77697103
>PA
And nothing of value was lost
>>77696867
>I live in northern Scotland
Freedom
>>77699185
Ill take ethical trouble over having my small intestines taken out. Ive already lost 20kg of hard earned lean muscle, ill be a guinea pig.
luckily cannabis kills MRSA.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18681481
>All five major cannabinoids (cannabidiol (1b), cannabichromene (2), cannabigerol (3b), Delta (9)-tetrahydrocannabinol (4b), and cannabinol (5)) showed potent activity against a variety of methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) strains of current clinical relevance.
/420/ sound off...
>>77699313
They might be able to fix that with CRISPR
>>77699130
Ever been on holiday to India?
>Have diarrhea the whole time you're there
>>77698987
You shouldn't keep using alcohol on the same wounds, it dries the skin, which slows down healing. Initially wash it to ensure you kill any bacteria, and use something like Neosporin, it will keep the area hydrated, help keep infection out, and allow you to heal sooner.
>>77699415
/opi/ here.
first impact when?
>>77696389
Besides laying you off, the Government keeps closing hospitals. In urban centers like in New York City, this will be dangerous to the residents and to tourists. Imagine a break-out in New York City that gets spread to millions of tourists, not just to the millions of residents. Scary stuff.
>>77699415
also cannabis kills cancer.
http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/hp/cannabis-pdq
Cannabinoids may cause antitumor effects by various mechanisms, including induction of cell death, inhibition of cell growth, and inhibition of tumor angiogenesis invasion and metastasis.
marijuana kills cancer cells and tumor cells and leaves healthy cells alone.
fucking incredible.
>>77699491
jamaica? i need some canasol for glaucoma. is there jamaica online pharmacy somewhere?
I remember growing up in the 90s people said polar ice caps would be melted and we'd be flooded by 2005 and we'd be seeing massive die offs of animals, we'd see super bugs that are resistant to all forms of medicine, billions would die.
It's been more than 20 years, what's the hold up?
It's worse the you guys think. They are saying surgeries will be too dangerious soon because the anti-bodies won't work anymore.
Welcome to 19th century where treatment for terbuciuolios is putting you on a hospital bed in the street and wait for you to die.
>>77699530
You mean second impact?
First impact is the arrival of lilith
>>77698214
Heh bro, what wrong.. disease got you scared?
>>77699736
Probably a mild effect in conjunction with aggressive therapy. These things are usually massively overstated.
We would have heard if smoking literally stopped cancer seen as there is a huge business pushing 'natural' remedies over 'medical'.
>tfw africans will be genocided by disease in your lifetime
>>77699472
two bits of info in retort, my skin is super moist, as in, guys give me "wow, no homo, but your skin real soft" comments when and girls ask me what lotions I use- acne sucks- and even the most stringent chemicals and routines just cause a slight redness and then a massive flood of fresh sebum through out the day
second, I have to wash literal bacterial breeding gunk off my body every day after I come home from work and any scabs that form are washed off with it, I get infections if I don't sterilise anything that gets reopened and I have to repeat the whole process the next day
>>77696389
Just send it to africa
>>77699808
We got billions of muslims instead, id rather have taken the warmer summers.
>>77697629
Yeah let's fight bacteria with gene splicing viruses what could possibly go wrong...
Why are you guys worrying about mrsa, vrsa and anything of the same matter? Here in Russia it is taught to us medical students that while the overusage of antibiotics will cause the emergence of resistant strains, the resistant strains will die out once we cease using the antibiotics because it is a natural process.
When a resistant strain are too much until it significantly affect the public health sector, we simply stop using that particular antibiotics until the strain subside. The prophylaxis for resistant strains is moderate usage of antibiotics by public health sector and general public and can be done easily by education of the doctors and general public, and implementation of protocols.
What is this fearmongering about?
>>77696049
About fucking time, this planet's inhabitants need to be halved to say the least.
>>77700161
>american education
I bet you think GMOs are bad aswell
>>77699877
haha!
>probably
sorry, no. tis fact. read up on it.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16818634
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12648025
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17952650
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16835997
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19914218
look at any of the lung studies that show less head, neck, mouth, lung cancers with marijuana smokers. or people who smoke tobacco and marijuana have less cancer than tobacco smokers.
i'd link you to them, but probably you are too busy cucked by chads and BREXIT to read any of this, britbong.
>>77696654
What did you get laid off from then?
>>77699822
They have been predicting resistant bacteria for a long time, it is here now and on the rise.
Pic unrelated
>>77696654
What did you get laid off from then? It certainly implied it you galloping retard.
is this the designated roleplaying thread?
just want to make sure before i start teleporting around
>>77699944
This. Let them develop cure the old fashion way so we can then figure it out in the lab.
>>77697533
>Without modern medicine we'll be forced to live third world style; out in the wilderness in small tribes.
That's my dream to be honest, going back to the good old ways of our ancestors, burying this degenerate, hedonistic and void "civilization". This will fix like 90% of degeneracy, both - economically and socially-wise, and make life much more intense, purposeful and worth living again.
>>77696049
Don't worry, the ruskies made a backup plan a long time ago because they didn't trust the westerners, it was make virus to kill bacteria
>tfw you live in one of the most sparsely populated countries on the planet
>>77696389
Are you making a dick measuring contest out of dying?
>>77700194
I'm guessing you're not that far along in your ID education. Take a look at antibiotic classifications, coverage, and resistance again. The majority of antibiotics are beta lactams, and the worst lactamases degrade all of these. Susceptibility often falls to colistin, which now has its own enzyme thanks to agriculture.
>>77696701
Its a arms race. The bugs get more resistant we develop more shit. We are capable of moving faster then we are so its not as bad as they say.
The worst part is it doesnt matter how careful we are here in the US. Or any western nation. There ar shit loads of people in africa and other shit countries and each person can have millions if not billions of bacteria in them. Think of how many chances that is for mutation when fucking doctors go there to hand out antibiotics.
>>77700706
oh good, plenty of room for migrants then!
>>77700987
I can travel without passport to denmark so i'll just go to greenland desu senpai
>>77696863
>implying betas like us won't be the first to go
>>77701028
>even more space
there's no escaping progress, bigot
>>77696049
you all laughed at me and now look at you about die from the invisible enemy all around us
>>77696389
>mfw Vrsa is only deadly towards people who gotten the flu shot the past 10 years
>mfw no vaccine in 13 years and haven't gotten sick since
>>77701228
>freezing the poor refugees to death
how intolerant
>>77696993
Probably not, this guy was fired for not keeping up with the research.
READ THIS READ THIS
Reminder that huge leaps in understanding what bacteria are and sanitation will make an antibiotic-less age much better than it was before antibiotics were discovered.
READ THIS READ THIS
>>77701457
doesn't matter if it's too late
>>77697908
You literally buy it for the bottle. Good bottle.
Water's fine, though.
>>77700839
Yea, I agree that those resistant strains are terrible. This is the first time I've learn about vrsa and that is pretty terrifying for me (I joke about using vancomycin every time in class when the teacher asked about the first line treatment when in reality it is last line).
The thing is, we don't feed our livestocks antibiotics, until recently, so the resistant strains are not developed yet. We can still implement law to reduce the usage of it in agriculture but for now there is no pressure to do so.
The law will finally be discuss when the other country start having this problem and the public demand for it. I assume that USA will encounter this problem first, since you guys fed a stupid amount of antibiotics to the livestocks. i.e. It is a problem but it will never be our problem, thank you for your sacrifice to protect our citizens.
So yeah how about telling your congressman about this issue instead?
>>77701697
>>77698186
Cool shit, thanks anons.
>being a gross fuck that poops all over their hands and eats raw chicken constantly
>>77698772
>puh puh please Ahmed, fuck my wife
>you're so strong!
>>77697542
Well then we'll be sure to put you in charge of white blood cell school, since you are obviously the expert in this.
>>77701697
What's so good about the bottle?
>>77696049
Yea, but fuck, look at the bright side: at least when you die of a bacterial infection caused by a simple wound, you won't live long enough to die from cancer. With jews, you win!
>>77700862
We really should build a wall around Africa and then nuke it.
>>77702692
It helps people identify you as a retard so they talk to you with big words.
>>77700862
Technically everyone has billions of bacteria in them - the vast vast majority of cells in our body are bacteria.
Medicine is massively moving into understanding bacteria as a huge part of the human body and its health not just in terms of infection but in normal functioning.
Hell they're even doing shit transplants to cure some illnesses now.
>>77702999
*dont
fuck. I need some voss.
>>77699848
>shifting to right wing politics
>still want that legal dank kush
already legal in my state tho
>>77698545
Are you retarded?
That's really not how it works anon
>>77701265
care to test that?
>>77703283
In low O2 environments the cells sickle and through some shit they begin to polymerize causing clots and some minor damage to blood vessels.
Full sickle cell will pretty much kill you, sickle cell trait is what is an advantage to some.
Having to go back to 1st year medic knowledge here so forgive me if its mostly wrong.
>>77696049
Can someone tell me everything is gonna be allright?
>>77703538
There was some study in northern europe where they stopped all antibiotic use except for severe need and the amount of multiply resistant strains reduced massively.
Producing defense mechanisms is costly so regular bacteria out competed them. It's not a great solution but we're not going to die out in a pandemic from resistant bacteria necessarily, but the days of 'antibiotics for everyone' are certainly coming to an end.
>>77696049
Lol just cook your meat nigga, leave it on the fire for another minute
Motherfucker wait until you don't see anymore blood on the meat before eating it
wew
thank you faggots and bindis for ending modernity through super bugs.
Omar Mateen did nothing wrong
>/pol/cucks once again being terrified of fabricated and/or exaggerated problems
the toppest kek
>tfw I had a MRSA infection
>went away naturally
>thatwentbetterthanexpected.jpg
>>77700862
>The bugs get more resistant we develop more shit. We are capable of moving faster then we are so its not as bad as they say.
Except there hasn't been any new antibiotics made/discovered in like 40 years. Expect that one that costs $10,000 a dose
>>77703906
I think a new class was discovered relatively recently, finally. Though that may well be the one you are talking about.
>>77696701
They expect that infection is going to become a top cause of death again as modern viruses continue to become resistant
We have only had antibiotics since 1945
>almost ready to defeat cancer
>now this shit
>>77704036
Not they don't - as stated the resistant strains are outcompeted by regular bacteria when antibiotic use stops periodically. Deaths will rise, but nothing catastrophically.
Plus viruses aren't the issue, we dont use antibiotics on viruses.
>>77704017
Yeah but there are already E.Coli resistant to it.
OP is right. We'll all die of pneumonia's like our great grandparents again.
>>77696128
We pissed away the gift of antibiotics in less than a century. We'll be bringing out the dead in another.
>>77704070
> defeat cancer
We have poured money in, i mean really poured money into cancer and we've accomplished mild improvements in the 5 year survival rate. Despite talk of magic bullets we aren't near curing cancer - cancer cells can hide and white blood cells actively reactivate cancer cells after its beaten back.
We won't beat cancer until we control genes, seen as cancer is pretty much a genetic inevitability. As cells reproduce they lose some genetic material - for most of your life this is junk dna, but as the telomeres shorten over a lifespan it starts to lose actual coding dna and random mutations/errors begin.
So in many ways we will never cure cancer until we almost stop aging. We'll just get better and better at slowing it.
>>77697204
It's not any better than it was when we abandoned it as a treatment, it's not a real substitute.
Greed caused this.
>>77704248
To some extent but see my other post:
>>77704159
That's what we were taught in medschool, that we'll have to be prepared for intervals of reduced antibiotic use, but not their irrelevance. I may be wrong, but thats what i know.
Actual person into bacteria's and antibiotics here. One of our best bets for survival is to start to vaccinate against as many strains as we can. We have already seen shifting strains in Pneumococci. There are a few vaccines, mostly given to children and older people. Pneumococci are typical bacteria's for mid ear infections, that usually are treated with antibiotics. However, vaccinate your kid against the bacteria strain, he doesn't get sick and every kid or person not taking an antibiotic is good news. That means that the resistant bacteria's aren't as much selected against and get diluted in the general bacteria population.
Another very important part to save our antibiotics is to stop their use in farming. when given antibiotics for no reasons, animals grow a bit bigger. So they are stuffed full.
A last solution, but that will most likely be implemented too late, is to regulate them in third world countries, implying we take over their health care again. They are actively harming ALL HUMANITY by being retarded.
>>77696049
thanks, anonymous. i didn't know it was you and only you protecting us.
>>77701265
This.
>trusting the yearly flu jew
>>77704159
>we dont use antibiotics on viruses.
Underrated point. The reason we don't use antibiotics on viri, by the way, is because they don't do anything to viri.
>>77696049
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
>>77696443
With our shitty reproductive numbers, it is going to screw us over.
It will not matter to Africa.
>>77702692
You can keep spaghetti in it after
>>77704563
> viri
Are you trying to start a fight?
>>77697998
Does iodine really kill bacteria?
>>77704387
>never cure cancer
>what is marijuana oil
>>77704514
US food industries would be absolutely crippled by higher meat prices, good luck trying to regulate them, they're gonna put a bullet in your head.
>>77703902
It's still just a staph infection, big problem is if you get after a surgery.
>>77704159
I wasn't agreeing with him I was pointin out we haven't had antibiotics forever
>>77704965
Meanwhile they're trying to push TTIP in our throat just so that can sell that same meat to us, which they have as a lower cost than european meat.
I don't eat it anymore and to be fair, anyone who has a brain shouldn't buy industrially grown meat either. Meat should be friggin expensive.
>>77705081
If TTIP passes, no more meat for me. I'm not an idiot.
>>77704969
thank the maker it was just in muh ear
>had a megafuckton of ear infections as a kid
>almost went deaf in on ear
>>77704907
Marijuana will not cure cancer. Just saying that now. Any cure for cancer will absolutely have to be genetic interference.
>>77705173
>>77705081
What is different about US meat to european?
>battling e.coli
>battling a coliform
Nigger you're retarded
>>77705173
It's already quite bad in europe, they're under quite some antibiotics and have to be because the living conditions are abysmal. The amount of cows that get mastitis (inflamation of the udder) is huge, because of how much milk we suck out of there with sometimes less than stellar gear so they get under antibiotics etc. There are sometimes traces of pus in fresh milk, but we don't know, since we pasteurize this shit.
However we have a mandatory wash out period of a number of weeks for all animal products, so there is only traces of antibiotics. But still, the resistant strains are also driven to become dominant by the large use in animals, even if Europe is still a bit better.
>>77705327
Americans are allowed to give their cattle growth hormones. To sell this meat here, they'd first have to prove beyond all doubts that this practice has no adverse effects on humans.
>>77705327
It has a strong flavor of freedom which Europeans find unsettling and scary.
>>77705327
US meat is much less restrictive in its use of antibiotics.
See also: >>77705508
We have wash out periods and a maximum allowed trace amount of antibiotics in meat.
Daily reminder that antibiotic resistance is caused by fucktard farmers feeding antibiotic en masse to their animals
>>77705235
>implying cannabis oil hasn't been proven effective in killing tumors
>inb4 le weed 420 XD
>>77705543
>>77705327
Also, they don't feed livestock grain or grass or anything they'd normally eat. They feed them corn, which is hugely unhealthy for both the cow and us poor Americans who eat the meat of the cow.
Meanwhile, regular fruit and veggies, as well as any meat that isn't corn-fed, costs about twice or even thrice as much as a fast-food hamburger.
Starting to see why so many Americans are so fat?
Isn't China having an issue with superbugs since they are using last resort medications on their livestock?
>>77697001
>virology
>bacteria
o i am laffin
>>77705629
You know who else was a vegetarian?
>>77705508
Trust me, I know. An uncle of mine used to be a butcher. He told me some stories and I made the mistake of looking for evidence.
>>77705629
Vet student here, can confirm. Farmers are fucking retarded but if they come into your practice asking to buy X antibiotic in bulk and it can be sold over the counter you have an obligation to sell it to them. Atleast here anyway, half the time they don't see anything beyond their own profits.
>>77705665
Pushing back tumours is not a cure, we dont talk of cures in cancer even when there is no detectable malignant body. Because cancer cells go dormant then white cells later switch them back on, or small cellular metastases have gone elsewhere.
But even at that I doubt cannabis oil is nearly as effective as chemotherapy - people just desperately wish natural remedies are miracle cures - you see it in the forums of every disease groups and the bane of doctors' lives are patients refusing treatment and saying paleo and no sugar will cure them.
If it works somewhat, amazing and i'd happily accept it - but i am skeptical.
>>77705838
...gas the farmers meat war now?
>>77705859
Like what?
>>77706095
Gas the boomers who expected to be able to serve meat with every meal, more like it.
>>77701124
>implying NEETS with no social connections would be the first to contract deadly strains
I'm lmaoing at your life
>>77706166
> Refocus our farming on pigs
> The 86 billion muslims worldwide cant have meat anymore
> Plenty of meat to go around for the rest of us
> Muslims all get B12 deficiencies and perish
Problem absolutely solved
>>77706100
Like beating cute little newborn piglets to death because they're not big enough and raising them wouldn't be profitable.
>>77705859
Tell us moar, pls Hans.
>>77703176
Kek'd heartily
>>77706470
> implying cheeto, sweat and semen infused keyboards aren't the spawning grounds of new mysterious strains of bacteria
The neet will doom us all
>>77696049
>10 years of hard work battling this shit and others, and I just got laid off.
BAD BAD WAGIE!
You must find a job and you must get into more debt right NOW
>>77696701
Seems like these bacteria have been spreading and increasing around the world for the last 20 years or more. Unless a cure is found, it might get out of control in some 3rd world country. Israel dealt with their own epidemic quite nicely in 2008 from the looks of it. Fancy that I've never heard of that incident before.
>>77706557
The adult ones mostly die from infections.
>>77704343
Fucking indians, fucking farmers, fucking merchants.
>>77706693
3rd world have a natural 'medicine' to these things: they breed like there's no tomorrow. In the scheme of things an epidemic doesn't matter if it kills 8/10 children.
>>77705508
Just eat at A&W all the time bro, they dont use hormones or antibiotics on any of their meats.
They have this BBQ burger out right now with fried onions and some kind of light dijon sauce mixed with a BBQ sauce, pepper bacon etc on it.
Probably about the best thing Ive eaten in years at a fast food place.
>>77706685
>wagie
The fuck back to /r9k/ with that bullshit you worthless fucking leech.
>>77706896
> dont use hormones
Enjoy your natural testosterone levels you cuck
>>77706541
Ah yeah, got a couple of stories myself:
>the cries from dairy cows who get their veals taken away, they spend the whole night and day crying for their babies
>male goats are useless for the dairy, so they get killed. Sometimes just by smashing the head in. That's one in two live animals that gets rekt because it isn't a female
>male chicken are grounded alive to make nuggets and that sort of basic "chicken" meat, because only the hens are useful to lay eggs
>A chicken raised for meat is a disgusting, unnatural animal that is killed at 6 months of age but looks already huge at that time. If you let one get to adulthood for shits and giggles, their legs break under their own body weight
>chicken meant to lay eggs are kept in cages with a metal grid so feces and eggs drop through, but that hurts their legs and feet. They're more or less in constant pain. also sometimes a chicken will just die there and lay there for days
>"free range" chickens in europe doesn't mean they see the light of the sun. It means they are densely packed on the ground in a large industrial garage and there is a door that stays open to the outside world. Do not for a second think your eggs have seen the light of day just because there is "free range" written on it.
I wish this was just vegetarian propaganda but it isn't.
>>77697998
>silver
has side effects
>>77706810
Imagine spending your entire life in a cage that's too small.
This stuff is nothing special, common knowledge, but most people wouldn't be able to imagine the stench inside these halls.
>>77697998
>Drinking diluted iodine regularly.
wew lad
>>77707133
Are they alive?
>>77707001
Bovine-Growth Hormone is not good for you, chief.
>>77707275
Yes. They get to spend the rest of their lives in this position once they're big enough.
The Black Death was great for the working class. Drove wages through the roof. Besides, we won't "all" die.
A silver coin in a cup of posca. That's what the Romans used to do.
>>77707326
I was being sarcastic, of course the xenooestrogens whacked in our food is awful for us, men at least.
>>77707048
Another one. We like veal to look a bit lighter than cow meat.
This is actually completely unnatural. To achieve this look, veals are kept anaemic (so iron deficiency in their blood). They keep doing it because people keep buying the lightly colored veal.
If we kill the bacteria, they win.
>>77707378
Whats your problem bruh, this vegetarian shilling seems to be your new shtick.. eternal anglo not working as planned now that the goyim know?
I guess its another tactics switch.
>>77707378
That's a nightmare, what meat would i have to buy to avoid this? I likely wont cut down on intake (especially seen as i recently got crohns and have to battle to keep weight on) but i'll spend more for the animals to have some quality of life.
>>77701265
My 60 yr old neighbor got a flu shot and now he's wheelchair bound for the rest of his life.
Fuck flu shots and fuck doctors.
>>77707506
Youd probably be better off buying cheap meat and paying for leprosy pills for poor people if youre into that whole preventing suffering thing.
Very cheap pills, can help a whole lot of people and its a terrible disease to get. Some people just dont have the money, and they lost their fingers and limbs etc, go blind I think even.
The medication costs peanuts.
Probably a lot better than not funding the butchers of pigs, who will raise the same number of pigs regardless of a few cents here and there, and its actual people.
I dont get this helping animals thing, when theres so many people suffering. I cant stand people, I hate almost all of them.. and even Id still help them over animals.
>>77707133
hell, and i thought the farms I've seen in eastern europe were bad
how do you germans get away with it, don't you have state inspections and even higher standards?
>>77707506
I have no idea about the UK, but here, we got some organic food initiatives. The animals grown for these are guaranteed to spend their lives in species-appropriate conditions. Five times as expensive, but makes it possible for me to satisfy my meat urges without feeling dirty afterwards.
>>77707494
Hitler was in favor of animal rights
>>77707785
Hah, no, that would be Nazi.
>>77707506
>battle to keep weight on
Meat isn't exactly high in calories. Just go to a nutrition store and buy powdered weight gainer.
>>77707840
Animal rights yea, he liked animals, I like animals, and he ate a lot of beans, and had horrible stomach problems.
Germans ate meat, meat consumption is a German cultural thing.
What is Colloidal Silver
>>77703800
it's kind of fascinating from a disgusting viewpoint isn't it? the most diseased and dirty creatures alive mix and mingle until powerful strains of bacteria are vying for supremacy inside their disease riddled bodies that then want to spread and infect the rest of the population.
>>77707770
Well im about to qualify as a doctor so im helping enough people, but the animal raising doesnt sit right with me. (Plus id benefit healthwise)
>>77707852
>communist government
>doesnt actually do communist stuff
explain??
>>77707998
If you go home with a doctors pay and dont give any out to charity, you may be a lousy doctor, or in the wrong line of work.
>>77707925
I do that as well, i have 3 oat shakes a day m8. I cant have normal weight gain mixes because crohns made me coeliac and lactose intolerant as well. Its been a fantastic year.
>>77707972
Turns out not much is really known about it. Though the dangers involved with using appear evident.
>>77696049
you're lucky someone paid you to wash your hands for so long, faggot.
>apocalypse happening
>tfw comfy neet inside
>>77708091
> doctors pay
Id earn more as a manager at aldi
>>77708050
Communism and free market capitalism are actually the same. Two sides of the same shekel, so to speak.
I have never gotten a flu shot in my life. Good immune system. Healthy. Dunno bro.
>>77707698
lmao rekt
>>77708180
>Not much known
>Dangers appear evident
Please.
>>77706486
How come nobody in the media ever says the reason muslims don't eat pork is because a pig will bite your dick off if you try to fuck it. This is why they are so fond of docile goats.
Yes, yes, pigs are "unclean" we know Ahmed. They scare your smelly dick too.
>>77696981
Kane lives, buddy.
>>77708091
doctors make shit for how long they train and how much they work. not to mention the responsibility and legal shit they have to deal with.
>>77708091
British junior doctors are barely paid shit
>>77707965
Our meat consumption isn't particularly high for a Western nation. The average Canadian eats around 10 kilograms more meat per year than the average German
>>77699877
Not as huge as taxing the poor.
>>77707506
Names may differ over there but
>organic
>free-range
>grass fed
>cage free
are the main terms for it here. Then there's shit like
>all natural
which effectively means nothing now and is purely marketing. This is one area where hippies come in handy, they keep up to date with this stuff.
>>77701338
something something winter chan
>>77707770
>I dont get this helping animals thing
They're part of the fatherland. A patriot has to treat them well.
>>77699229
Maybe they sacked him because after 10 FUCKING YEARS he had achieved dick all?
Just a thought and heres another one. Theres probably more than 1 person looking into it, so just because this fag got sacked doesnt stop all fucking research on the topic.
>>77708364
>doctors make shit for how long they train
Doctors here make 100k a year and thats low, all the good ones go to the US and make 300k+
>>77697103
>tfw live in western pa
>>77696534
Why doesn't anti bodies just kills cancer??? Cancer patients btfo
>>77700792
everything is a dick measuring contest anon
>>77707972
a cure for not being a smurf
>>77708187
dumb cunt. kill yourself.
we had to deal with idiot nurses and doctors who literally had no idea what they were dealing with.
>>77705327
We pump our cattle full of antibiotics and steroids, we don't feed them grass normally we feed them corn which is cheap as fuck. And in general our farming industry (not small farmers) are shady as fuck
>>77699313
Aaaaaaagggggkuggluglgu!
>>77704343
doubt we'll be waiting that long
>>77708802
Ill start on 26k a year after studying for 5 years at 9k a year. My normal hours are 7-10pm including saturday. I have to do several nights 7-7 a month.
So sorry if i dont give that money to leprotic people.
>>77698747
I follow science porn on Twitter too :')
>>77704752
yes, iodine kills bacteria, and viruses
if you do as this poster suggests, it will kill you too.
> taking medical advice from anonymous sociopathic morons on /pol/
dont be an idiot.
a healthy diet and lifestyle will do more to keep you healthy than any magic potion advocated by dipshits on a venezuelan turnip carving message board.
>>77709115
Tell that to Steve Jobs and his fruit only diet.
>>77705759
> corn is poison
> critters that eat corn also become poison
> things idiots believe
>>77709185
Tell that to Steve Jobs who is dead as fuck
>>77699890
That's not exactly good news for you
>Evolution is a Jewish lie
>HELP BACTERIA ARE EVOLVING TOO FAST WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE
Oh /pol/....
>>77707076
Can you reverse that?
It's not like beta carotene or lutein where it just sort of fades away, since it's metal
>>77709391
No one ever said evolution is a Jewish lie on /pol/ you fuckwit
>>77707972
> magic potion!
> made from silver so you know it has got to be good!!
> arab tier magical thinking at it's worst
do you also believe that eating tiger penis will make you more manly?
are you in the market for some Red Mercury so you can summon a djinnn?
is your Orgone Cannon really effective at shooting down alien spaceships disguised as clouds?
hows that pyramid power mind expanding hat working for ya?
dumbass.
go back to sandland with that bullshit.
>>77698914
you might look into infecting yourself with round worms. I've heard some research has been done on symbiotic treatments involving parasites that modulate the immune system
>>77708091
Nice b8 lol. Nobody can be this retarded not even a leaf.
>>77708234
> Communism and free market capitalism are actually the same.
whew.
thats some really edgey dumbassery there mustafa.
you are now the proud creator of The Dumbest Shit Ever Posted.
>>77708930
Haha yeah that one case of a man swilling the stuff excessively, and running it all over his skin.
That is not how sane people use the product.
>>77701265
>never gotten a flu shot
>never gotten the flu
>>77709543
Yes that is your bias and you link colloidal silver into the category of pseudoscience because you obviously have not done any research or read any medical journals on the most powerful antibacterial product on the market.
Moron.
>>77709631
There's that, fecal transplants, stem cell replacement, immune stimulants etc
Lots of 'miracle cures' that never amount to much, its quite parasitic marketing. But these things seem to cure some - so i think its likely 'crohns' is actually various illnesses badly lumped together.
>>77708959
So what's going on?
What made you make this thread? You have all of our attention
>>77699530
30 min
>>77707133
pork is shit tier meat anyways
You really shouldn't eat bacon or ribs more than once every two weeks
>>77705327
> asking dumbasses how US meat is different from european meat
the REAL difference is US beef pork chicken and lamb are not just different labels on diseased romanian horse meat.
dont trust this dutch bastard either
>>77705508
is lying like a sack of shit
" The horse meat that was found in Comigel products originated at Doly Com,[57] a Romanian-based slaughterhouse. An inquiry by the French government showed that "the meat had left Romania clearly and correctly labelled as horse. It was afterwards that it was relabelled as beef."[58] Doly Com supplied the horse meat under a contract to Cyprus-based Draap Trading Ltd, a meat trader which operates in the Netherlands. It is owned by a British Virgin Islands holding company, and Jan Fasen is a director. Draap spelt backwards is paard, the Dutch word for horse.[59] After having the horse meat delivered to a cold storage company in Breda, Draap then sold the frozen meat to Spanghero,[60] who insist that it arrived at their Castelnaudary plant labelled as "Beef – originating in EU".[36][59] After some processing, Spanghero then sent it to Comigel, where the end products for sale were made.[34][36] According to French media reports, Spanghero falsified documents regarding the meat.[61]
Horse meat found in Silvercrest products is thought to have originated in Poland.[62]"
~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_horse_meat_scandal#Wiljo_Import_en_Export_B.V._and_Vleesgroothandel_Willy_Selten_B.V.
>>77710309
He's not wrong though.
>>77709700
>Never gotten a flu shot
>Never gotten the flu
>Got the A flu a week ago
Really makes you think..
>>77709999
checked
yeah, medical marketing is pretty shady
I just kind of like the idea of a cure that wouldn't cost much because parasites are free, and antihelminths are available at farm and ranch stores
>>77696049
Can't you just get a job in a hospital lab instead of a research lab?
How did you even get laid off? Forget to re-up your ASCP license, or did the lab lose funding or something, did you fuck up bad somehow?
>>77707048
> everything i know about farming comes from PETA propaganda videos
you are an idiot who never raised livestock.
> cows have deep feelings and shit
nonsense
> male goats are bashed on the head with a rock
how else are we supposed to get the meat out of them?
> male chickens are "grounded" alive to make nuggets
simply NO. thats bullshit
> 6 month old chickens are disgusting unnatural critters
you never raised chickens in your life.
> dem cages propaganda
horse shit.
> free range chickens are kept in "industrial garages"
lying sack of turds.
> I wish this was just vegetarian propaganda but it isn't.
and your final statement is the bladest lie of them all.
>>77696633
That's because infant mortality was through the roof. However, if you survived to 4 years you were likely to live to 60.
>>77705508
>traces of pus in milk
Throwing out my gallon of milk 2bh lads
>>77709900
> do yer own research!!
from your specially selected colloidal silver magic potion sellers' websites of course.
> dat bias
yes i have a bias towards REAL SCIENCE, not idiotic magical thinking.
> medical journals
no links, cuz it doesnt exist
> most powerful antibacterial product on the market
not even close.
"colloidal silver" has MILD anti-bacterial properties when applied TOPICALLY
taken internally, it is a recipe for very expensive urine and will eventually turn you blue.
>>77710309
> dont believe marxist communism and free market capitalism are the same thing?
> must be a jew
nice one germany.
youre really living down to expectations.
>>77710695
>he doesn't know about chick culling
https://youtu.be/HuvUVDlDuOY
if anything he's being nice and saying they're made to nuggets, these are just throw away
>>77709999
holy fucking numbers
also, wut
>>77709692
> that's not how sane people use this product
yes.
SANE people use silver to make jewelry, electronic components and mirrors
crazy people drink that shit believing it is a magical healing potion.
>>77711299
>he doesn't want to be blue
Get this Gargamel mother fucker out of here.
>>77707972
can I turn this to actual silver and profit
>>77711222
> implying i dont know about chick culling
> implying the "mcnuggets R made frum ground up baby chicks feathers and all" meme is "being nice"
youre an even bigger idiot than the dipshit i was castigating.
>>77696250
good. 7 billion is too much.
>A 2/10 bait thread got pol pretty well on the hook
Why does pol consist of only low iq people?
>>77704387
You speak of "cancer" as if its one monolithic disease.
Its not.
Which cancer are you referring to? We've made great strides in increasing survival rates for a variety of cancer types. Some cancers you're all but guaranteed to live through if you catch them early.
>>77711578
no. that jug contains "homeopathic" levels of silver, which is to say, 25 PPM
you would have to buy an ocean of that expensive water to glean enough silver to see with the naked eye.
>>77710951
mastitis is the term- it's a common infection in dairy cows- the udder becomes inflamed. if it gets in the milk sent out for consumers there has been a breakdown in several safeguards. it should be caught by the milker , or the dairy lab, or the shipping lab, or the creamery lab, etc. there's a biological count done at each step, with min and max levels established
Also thats not including advances in the precision and effectivness of chemo and radiation such that thet minimize side effects while maximizing the efficiency.
There is never going to be a "magic pill" to cure "cancer," because each cancer is different and requires a different treatment.
>>77711987
>There is never going to be a "magic pill" to cure "cancer," because each cancer is different and requires a different treatment.
low iq monkey who doesn't know what cancer is
>>77711578
Yes, dip your penis into it for about an hour. The pure Ag (silver) particles will pass through your penis membrane and travel to the urethra. You will then pass a stream of pure silver shortly afterwards.
>>77697629
Hi /tv/
>>77712039
You shouldnt bad mouth yourself like that, Mehmet.
Its not your fault you werent exposed to any science or biology courses in between all the Qu'ran study.
But please, try to pay attention when educated people speak.
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