There is nothing in the 2nd amendment defending extended magazines and other attachments. Your right to bear arms is not being infringed by banning high capacity mags and other attachments that are used solely for killing. Why are you against this?
A well REGULATED militia
The guns need to be in full working order, that includes having all the parts.
>gun crime is outta control!
>lets focus on the guns do the smallest amount of killing!
Notice how its only when normies get slotted by crazies that they care about banning guns
When a dindu kills his rival dindu is not the guns we blame its the system lol
>>77665216
>>77665216
It's a pointless ban because lower capacity magazines can be reloaded into a rifle in a matter of seconds and the shooter would likely be able to still get Hi-Cap magazines regardless of a ban.
It would limit our 2nd amendment rights and wouldn't stop mass shooters at all.
>>77665216
Read the Militia Act.
The law stated that people had to own the same equipment that the Army did. So when they showed up for militia service. They were already equipped and trained.
NRA was founded by Union officers after the Civil War. Because the urban yankees and Irish who made up the Union army, didn't know how to shoot. While the rural confederate soldiers were all proficient riflemen.
Restricting ammunition has been found to be against the 2nd already son. SHALL NOT
>>77665216
>1 post by this id
>banning high cap mags will stop gun crime and mass shootings somehow
>used solely for killing
kys
>>77665216
I don't even need magazine's! Belt fed baby! Yeah it's real too.
>>77665665
It's not restricting your ammunition at all. Name one reason you would need a 50 round drum besides being on a battlefield or going on a mass shooting spree
>>77665926
fighting against a tyrannical government or an invading enemy.
>>77665926
Wild boars
>>77665216
>A frame sight post no rear BUIS.
>CompM4 not T1.
>Extended surefire mag not 60 round master race.
>Not spending the extra 20 burgers on a decent stock with a riser.
Decent suppressor/10
>>77665216
The left doesn't seem to think we realize that current rifles and accessories are intended to kill people. We are very aware and that is the point of the 2nd amendment if it ever comes down to it.
>>77665926
>50 round drum besides being on a battlefield or going on a mass shooting spree
Not true when I go to the range I use a 100 round drum so I don't have to be bothered with reloading and wasting my time
>>77665216
Because it's not about guns, it's about our unique conception of negative rights, just like hate speech is a sneak attack on free speech.
>>77665216
under the 2nd amendment you can own a RPG if you meet the qualifications for it.
But 0/10 otherwise
>>77665926
>need
>>77665475
If that POS doesn't represent all gun owners.
Why does he represent all Muslims?
>>77665926
In case China invade or there is a Civil War.
>>77665926
You retard they don't even use more than 30 round magazines with M4s or M16s in combat. They have belt fed machine gunners who lay down suppressive fire while they pick off targets in semi auto. besides carrying a large magazine makes the rifle much harder to use, much heavier, and a lot of them function badly for AR-15s.
>>77665216
>Implying someone couldn't kill just as many people with out a gun or high capacity mags
>>77665216
>ban supressors in California
>thinks they are about killing
>totally not about shooting without fucking hearing protection, which is wayyy more fun
>>77665216
a magazine is a box with a spring in it. if that scares you then you are retarded
>>77665994
>Le tyrannical government boogieman
>Implying you'd have any power to stop an army anyway
>>77666296
Exactly, "high capacity" magazines are just normal capacity mags that were intended for the rifles when they were made.
>>77665216
>not being infringed
>literally infringing
How about you pay a voting tax? You can afford it!
>>77665926
>It's not restricting your ammunition at all. Name one reason you would need a 50 round drum besides being on a battlefield or going on a mass shooting spree
what is wrong with being prepared for the battlefield? that's what the 2nd is for
It's OP's kind of thinking that gets all sorts of safety equipment on guns banned.
>>77666450
>Implying most of the soldiers won't abandon their posts when told they need to shoot Americans to take their guns
>implying the loyal government army is larger than even a fraction of gun owners willing to defend their rights.
>Implying the army doesn't need the vast resources provided by civilian workers who would not help the army
Because I'm a killer, and these bans would really affect me and my line of work.
>>77665216
Magazine limits/pinning doesn't do shit.
Canadian here, all magazines are pinned. Guess what? Criminals either import/make new mags or just cut the pin out.
The nutjob (Justin Bourque) who dressed up as Rambo and killed 3 cops was using pinned mags. The nutjob (Kimveer Gill) who shot up his school with a Barretta Storm also was using so called "safe" mags yet he got off 60+ shots no problem before getting shot himself.
Remember Vtech Cho reloaded so fast nobody could get near him. Aurora guy also got the jump on his victims even though his shitty drum magazine jammed nobody could get near him because he had like 3 other guns at the ready and tear gassed the place.
There's also already like 200 million guns out there, only sensible solution is let everybody carry conceal a glock literally everywhere in the US at anytime. Also deport dindus and shitslams like Sgt Hassan and Mateen.
>>77666510
Drum mags are generally unreliable. Your just scared of them for faggot reasons. No one needs a car that goes over 55 mph either. It's not your job to tell other grown ass adults what they do or don't need.
Have you ever shot a gun before? If not then please STFU
>>77666450
Nobody wants to rule a nation of corpses.
>>77665216
>2 home invaders enter your house
>you have a 10 round mag cause that's what your government has decided for you is the maximum before you are an evil baby killer
>average person has 15% hit rate in a real life situation
>on average, 1.5 of your bullets will actually hit before you need to reload
>large probability of zero hits (model it with Poisson distribution)
>home invaders don't care about laws and have arbitrarily large magazines
Would you take these chances when your wife and kids are hiding in the closet depending on you? Fuck any politician telling you what you need and what is enough for your own self-defense. 30 rounds is a bare minimum for effective home defense as far as I'm concerned.
>>77665216
The second amendment is about the people being able to defend themselves against a possible tyrannical government.
For example if instead of kevlars someone invents a forcefield belt that makes all current small arms useless and only tank cannons or bigger can penetrate these forcefields (or something slow like a man with a knife) so now only the new ultraguns which can penetrate these forcefields are worth anything.
The 2nd amendment would be made useless if such a tool as the forcefield belt was invented and people were not allowed to buy guns that are on the level of modern warfare, which is ever evolving.
>>77665216
"arms" is understood to mean contemporary military weapons and the necessary accouterments to operate them.
your musket is useless without powder and shot
your ar-15 is useless without magazines and ammunition
>infringe (verb) Actively break the terms of (a law, agreement, etc.) [OED]
Making boxes with springs inside of them illegal is clearly infringing upon the right to keep and bear arms.
>>77665344
This, the militia is every able-bodied free man, and being well-regulated is a matter of having the equipment necessary for militia service.
You could just read the federalist papers and get it in the framers' own words.
>>77666450
>le us army has god-like infinite powers may may
>that's why vietnam, north korea, afghanistan, and iraq are all tightly under us rule today
>>77667156
>no one needs a car that goes over 55 mph either
that's actually the future, unfortunately.
self driving cars when they become reliable enough will be mandatory and no independent driving will be allowed.
this will be enforced through insurance, only the extreme rich will be able to afford independent driving insurance while everybody else can only afford the self driving car.
we'll also have autonomous cars that drive around 24/7 with ovens in the back so they can cook and deliver pizzas on demand.
>inb4 autonomous jewish ovens
>>77667380
I want to ad to that, if we only need 10 round mags and no scary features, why isn't that good enough for the president and lawmakers in Washington? They surround themselves with AR-15s and fully automatic firearms but evidently that is not suitable for our own protection.
>>77665492
Basic logic to a leftist is like a cross to a vampire.
>>77666227
rekt
>>77667544
Gun-control should begin and end with the Secret Service.
>>77665216
There's nothing in the constitution saying iPhones and computers could be used as free speech in the 1st amendment either faggot....
>>77666227
Not "all muslims".
Muslims from countries you're currently at war with (Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Syria, Iraq)
>>77667499
Ever driven through a black ghetto? Know what make whitey stop is? Notice that the only defensive move autonomous cars know is to stop and wait for traffic to clear?
Picture an autonomous car travelling through the ghetto and coming across a black jaywalker.
>>77667703
Not all Nazis were stockpiling and killing Jews.
That doesn't mean it wasn't done and the tenets of National Socialism were peachy keen.
>It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.
>George Washington
>>77667701
These same soulless bureaucrats like Dianna Fienstein who want to ban all guns also want free speech banned (unless approved by the government) and have more vast surveillance. Democrats do not value freedom or our rights.
>>77665344
Yes faggot. A well REGULATED militia. Why aren't we allowed to regulate the ammunition amount then?
>>77668108
Regulate means to put in good order and to adjust to some standard or requirement, as amount, degree, etc.
It means the militia, which has been legally seen since the country's inception to be made up of the people (you and me), should have working, usable, and relevant arms and equipment that is maintained.
As gun technology grows we too shall have access to that technology so we can still be a relevant militia force. Our arms are supposed to be on the same quality of the federal army but politicians don't want to see the people fully expressing their rights,
>>77665216
Shut the fuck up
>>77668108
That's not what REGULATED means in this context, dipshit.
Fuck you guys are stupid.
>>77665926
Many ranges will not let you load mags while the firing like is hot, for some retarded reason.
Having a mag with 50 rounds means you don't have wait till the next round to shoot 50 bullets.
>>77668732
The main point is whether your gun shoots only 1 bullet or a 1000 it doesn't change the intent of the person using it. A majority of people who legally own guns in general do not commit crimes with them and the mag ban utterly useless. reloading a magazine can be done extremely quickly with practice it is so trivial.
>>77666450
Nobody's imagining showing up to a battle against the US army. We'd kill the corrupt leaders in assassinations, murder their families, shoot off duty soldiers or small groups in an ambush, etcetera.
Small arms would be extremely useful in rebelling against tyranny. Imagine rebelling against a tyranny, would you advise the rebels to throw away their guns? Probably not.
>>77665216
There were weapons back then with 20+ rounds of munitions able to be fired in rapid succession.
>>77665999
Or wolverines
Damn, the thought of pumping round after round into a wall of charging wild boars is making my penis stiff
>>77665216
There is nothing in the 1st amendment defending anything beyond handcranked printing presses.
You're rolling presses, radio, TV, internet and social media is thus not applicable as free speech under the first amendment!
OP IS A FAG
>>77665216
Because they aren't used solely for killing, and killing is literally the intent of the second amendment. Keep in mind, when the 2A was written, they had just gotten out of a war where they relied upon privately owned vessels armed enough to be capable of destroying coastal towns were considered the Navy, semi automatics were known of (see Puckle gun, Girandoni air rifle), and armed militias were a constant threat. Despite this, the 2A was never repealed or altered. It turns out that arming the general populace was actually the intent of the greatest minds of the time.
>>77665216
-Solely for killing.
What is a gun for 2000 Alex.
>>77669116
I should point out that you can't really used tanks, jets, or drones against an urban uprising, at least not without killing dozens of civilians for each militia man rising up against the government, not to mention the destruction of all the infrastructure that the government wants to control. They'd have to use infantry to actually have any sort of positive results against the militia, but we all know how militia fair against small arms fire.
>>77665216
50 gays are dead because of your disarmament agenda. sage.
>>77666450
If tanks, jets, and drones worked so well, why did we lose Vietnam, and why does ISIS exist? we bomb them every day right?
Oh I guess it doesn't fit the narrative.
>>77665216
There is nothing in the 1st Amendment defending your use of a computer to show off your extra chromosome.
Kill yourself, mong.
>>77669892
Whenever they say "drones" my response is PLEASE, statists, please use surgical drone strikes on non-militia population centers and see what happens.
>>77670287
Same, I really want to see the reaction to headlines reading "Drone strike on radical hideout: 5 militia dead, 42 civilians dead and injured, power out for entire region, 3 buildings totally demolished"
>>77670387
This?
http://www.nytimes.com/1985/05/14/us/police-drop-bomb-on-radicals-home-in-philadelphia.html?pagewanted=all
>>77670854
>http://www.nytimes.com/1985/05/14/us/police-drop-bomb-on-radicals-home-in-philadelphia.html?pagewanted=all
>No massive uproar over the damage
Maybe I was wrong about Americans, and it doesn't matter in the end whether they ban guns or not.
>>77665926
>Implying drum magazines won't be necessary for the impending race war
>>77671016
The day of the rope is long, past due.
>>77666450
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME
>>77665926
>implying I can't just make my own high-capacity magazines
If you want to control guns, you have to repeal the 2nd Amendment and confiscate. If you're not willing to do that, shut the fuck up. If you ARE willing to do that, get ready for a bloodbath.
