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You can't be a Christian and a nationalist
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If God told you to flood your country with immigrants you would have to obey, or else not be a good Christian
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It's a good thing God never told me to flood my country with immigrants
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>>77610109

Well considering God hasn't come down on a shining cloud, looked me dead in the eyes, and told me to stop being so hard on those Syrians...

See where I'm going with this?
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>>77610109
It's a good thing I'm not Christian, then. Now let's heat up the ovens.
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>>77610679
But both churches in Germany do. The Catholics and the Protestants.
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>implying my God didn't give me free will to vote for more drone strikes in Syria
>implying OP isn't BTFO by the divine
>implying OP won't be BTFO at the judgement gates
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>>77610109
No, YOU can't.
I make my own limitations, cuck.
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>>77610109
If God truly did make such a command, however He hasn't.
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>>77610109
>If God told you to flood your country with immigrants you would have to obey, or else not be a good Christian

Jesus also said a bunch of stuff about not tolerating evil and shit that people seem to just ignore. I'd be all for letting Christian refugees, but letting Muslims take over your country probably isn't something you should do.
I find it especially funny that Christians in Europe are letting Muslims convert all the churches into mosques. Are muslims better or worse than money lenders?
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>>77610835
Yes, and? Those are both inherently heretical churches. The only remaining church that even pretends to still try to adhere to christendom is the Orthodox church.
St. Peter may have founded the papacy and it was sanctioned by Christ himself, but if you honestly think the Papacy isn't corrupted beyond all redemption after literal centuries of being a political entity, being bought and sold by the surrounding nations, you're a fool.
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>>77610109
God's opinion on maintaining ethnic homogeneity in order to preserve cultural purity is indisputably clear.
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>>77610109
>If God told you to flood your country with immigrants you would have to obey, or else not be a good Christian


God loves nationalism. He was the first to create nations and the first to grant his people power over their nations. Satan loves globalism and immigrants.
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>>77610109

When God tells me to I will try. Until then: FUCK muslim immigrants.
To top of my sin I would so fuck your pic OP.
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>>77610109
God would say to GO to the immigrant's home country and help them there yourself, rather than "flood" the country with them and use other people's tax dollars to help them.
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>>77610835
Wicked priests, Franz
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>>77611256
>Those are both inherently heretical churches

muh Muh MUH NOT ALL CHURCHES!!!
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>>77610109
Shills all day everyday on this fucking board.
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>>77610109
GTFO kike
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>>77611387
Source for this? The closest thing I can find is Acts 17:26.
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>>77610109

nice shilling kike

you already infiltrated the top church hierarchy, when do you stop
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>>77610109
Yes, but God said to cut the head of the invader, cuck.
In the name of Jesus Christ I will gladly behead a million muslims.
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>>77610921
Ignored argument in op
>>77611037
Never said he has
>>77611050
So you'd let Christians in? Proving my point... Also, who do you listen to: God or Jesus
>>77611387
Nope, that's your own interpretation. Merkels christian party says the exact opposite. That's your opinion not gods
>>77611568
The teachings of Jesus are almost completely otherwise. Stop making stuff up that fits your narrative
>>77611583
Proving my point
>>77611654
Again, you don't speak for God. You can't say what God would do. No one can
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>>77610109
>if god told you to do this thing I made up, and you didn't do it, you'd be disobeying god
Is this a joke, or just the most disingenuous statement ever?
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>>77612090
The entire old testament plus the self-defense doctrine of Byzantium (killing is not murder).
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>>77610109
But I'm not Christian.
Checkmate.
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>>77612106
>>77611842
>>77611809
There is no need to be so defensive

I am simply telling you as it really is
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>>77612298
>The entire old testament

But hasn't the new covenant replaced the old? How would I know which old laws to follow?
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>>77610109

You're implying I listened to God in the first place.

Also I'm not a nationalist. I'm a patriot.

Nationalist is to negative in todays society Patriot although the same thing sounds bad ass.
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>>77612279
PLEASE

Answer the question

Why do you ignore it so?
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>>77610109

Patriotism, loving one’s country, one’s homeland, one’s people, is perfectly good and fine and accepted by the Church. In fact, there are many saints who are quite patriotic and quite lovers of their homeland—even defending their homeland against invaders, against nonbelievers. And so certainly, phyletism is not loving one’s people, one’s country, one’s homeland. There’s nothing wrong with that. So when people express great love for their homeland or their country, one should not misunderstand them and confuse their love for something which it is not, that is phyletism.

Now phyletism is also not a strong, healthy self-identity—that is as a Greek or Russian or Serbian or American. It’s perfectly good and healthy to have a proper self-identity. I am a part of this people, which call themselves Hellenists or Russians or Serbians or what it might be, and I’m very happy to be a part of this group, a part of this nation. And certainly we have an example of the Jewish people, the people of God in the Old Testament. They certainly were not shy about their identity and about expressing their identity as the people of God.

Phyletism is not having reservations about multinational unions, globalization, European Unions, North American Unions, international groups which seemingly subvert local governments. Phyletism is not even the desire to get out of these groups; it is not to be seen as something negative. In fact, the Church has always held a somewhat reserved and even a negative stance toward such developments seeing in them, precursors to the “man of iniquity,” the Antichrist.

So phyletism is not a zeal for one’s autonomy, the country’s autonomy from these multinational, international, organizations. There’s nothing all that virtuous in uniting the nations under one government. That’s not something the Church should see automatically as something good.

Fr. Peter Alban Heers
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>>77612690
You ignored the question

Just one little question and like almost all the others you ignore it
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>>77612829

What question?
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>>77612271
>Again, you don't speak for God. You can't say what God would do. No one can

And yet you're saying he's pro-immigration.

You didn't provide an actual argument against why the person you responded to is more wrong than you, you're both stating your opinion about what god wants.

If you think God would rather you let refuges into your country than assist them in their own provide verses from the bible that support that, otherwise your argument is just as baseless as his.
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>>77612894
If God came down and asked you to flood your country with immigrants,

what would you do?
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You can't be a Christian and a Christian

If God told you to not be a Christian you would have to obey, or else not be a good Christian
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>>77610109
>implying our greatest heroine didnt achieve sainthood by removing crumpets
Nice try Schlomo Goldberg
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>>77613079
If god came down and told you to kill the muslims and drive them out of your homeland what would you do?
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>>77613020
>And yet you're saying he's pro-immigration.

I said no such thing. Please do not put words in my mouth

I created a hypothetical situation, that is all. Is it likely? No it is not. But that doesn't mean it can't be asked and answered. So please

Answer the question
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>>77613260
Again

Why are you ignoring the question

That's the whole point of this thread and yet you won't answer it
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>>77613149
Congratulations!

You're the 10th person to ignore the question
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>>77613079

I would do as the Lord commands. Would you disobey the Lord if you were specifically given a command? Have fun in Hell for all eternity, at least you can say you weren't a cuck. I don't think anyone will care though, with the whole fiery torment thing and all.
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>>77613266
Your assertion in the OP is "You can't be a Christian and a nationalist", you use your "hypothetical situation" to support your assertion.
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>>77613614
Ok, my bad. That was poor wording
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>>77613395
I would do as God commands, now answer my question: Would you do as God commands if he told you to drive the muslims from your homeland?
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>>77613535
So you would destroy your country and people just so that you won't suffer?
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>>77613149
If I ask for her intercession, would she understand my english babbling?
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>>77612492
It's not quite that simple. It's a matter of interpretation. Majority of Christians believe the old covenant still applies to Christians in part or in full. Only among Protestants is the main focus almost exclusively on the new covenant and the new testament.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_the_Old_Covenant
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>>77610679

Fpbp

>>77610835

Catholics are corrupt heretics, and so is any church that allows homosexuality or woman clergy
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>>77610109

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>>77611744
>muh Muh MUH NOT ALL CHURCHES!!!

Have you ever heard of the Reformation? You should look into it
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>>77613892
>hourglass
The tits are too small
Hourglass is 36-24-36
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>>77612405
>>77612271
>>77610109
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>>77614392
Never said any of that, silly
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>>77610109
>If God told you to flood your country with immigrants you would have to obey, or else not be a good Christian
What exactly is your point? How does that make me not a nationalist? God before politics, if he says DIRECTLY and HIMSELF to let them in, he must have some kind of plan for them and I'm glad to have them around as part of gods plan, whatever that may be.
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>>77610109
For a Christian, a skin color is a minuscule matter. They have a bigger picture. All are equal in the eyes of the creator and so on..
It has been proven numerous times, that Christianity drastically changes the savages' mentality, and tames them.
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>>77613902
Catholics do not allow women clergy or homosexuality, though.
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>>77613892
Who is that NigNog my Finnish freindo? pls i must know
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>>77610109
Most Christians don't know or simply ignore what the bible teaches.

The Christian god says you must treat sojourners like your own, just like when the Jews were sojourners in Egypt.

>sojourn means temporary!

How long were the jews in egypt? oh, only a couple hundred years...
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>>77613811

God has a plan, who am I to question God? Who are you?
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>>77614392
Came here to post this.
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>>77614753
Jews were never in Egypt during that time period
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>>77615213
The Christian god is a myth, too, so I'm not sure what you're point is.

There is evidence that the Israelites spent something like 200 years in Egypt, though.
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>>77614719
She's a model called Bria Myles
https://www.instagram.com/realbriamyles/
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>>77610109
Christ wanted people to be loving.

There is nothing loving about flooding a country with rapists.
There is nothing loving taking people's earnings and giving it to savages who use it to buy smartphones to watch porn.
There is nothing loving about destroying neighborhoods and communities.
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>>77614719
https://www.instagram.com/eenahsanairb/
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>>77614192
Deformation*
FTFY
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>>77615424
Thank you my Mongolian friendo.
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>>77612090
Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of tyre and sidon. A canaanite women from that vicinity came to him, crying out, "Lord, son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly."

Jesus didn't answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, "send her away, for she keeps crying out after us."

He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel."

The woman came and knelt before him "Lord, help me!" She said.

He replied, "it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to the dogs."

Jesus ended up helping this woman, but it was made clear that she was an exception. Her faith was unusually strong. Nothing is wrong with charity but actively hurting your people to help others is wrong. Today's churches just teach feel good bullshit, not Christianity, they've been infiltrated by Marxist thought.
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>>77616022
"go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven."
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>>77616529
Your possessions. Not the country of your countrymen. The mistake that many people make is mistaking individualist actions with some greater collectivist goal. It is great if you want to be a man of God, helping the poor and living a modest life. This does not mean you impoverish your children and countrymen in the act though. That is wrong.
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>>77610109
>You can't be a Christian
Fixed
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>>77617127
Jesus says everyone is your countryman.

If it sounds like collectivism, it's because it is.
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>>77616529
Also it's "if you want to be perfect then sell your possessions blablabla".

It's arrogant to try to be perfect. Only god is perfect. It's a bit of a curveball I know, but this is not Jesus actually advocating people en masse to go through with this.
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>>77617435
As you can see from the quote from Matthew I posted, you're wrong. He makes clear distinctions between peoples.
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>>77617487

>It's arrogant to try to be perfect.
I was really hoping someone would tee this up for me.

"You are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect." Mt 5:48

thx

thx
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>>77610109
And illegal immigration is a sin.

http://www.gotquestions.org/illegal-immigration.html
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>>77610109
My religion might be Christianity, but i don't stick my religion into these matters.
Also, i want immigration in order to protect my own country. I see no problem with that, and i think that's what God wants me to do.
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>>77617695
You're trying to say what you perceive as an exception is evidence of a rule.

Yet the Bible has many references to treating outsiders as native-born.
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>>77617812
I don't* want immigration
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>>77617879
You aren't making an argument. The view is Crystal clear in what I posted.
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>>77617712
Yes, eventually one will be perfect. Once they join the holy father in heaven. Until then though... I would hold on to my possessions.
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>>77610109
Wtf I hate G-d now
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>>77618139
You aren't making an argument. The view is Crystal clear in what I posted.

That accomplished so much.

>>77618257
Yes, the verse clearly telling you to be perfect is clearly not telling you to be perfect.

You're a real, live Christian, aren't you?
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>>77610109
fuck off paid reddit muslim jewish shill
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>>77610109

That's funny because all the legit nationalists in my country were and are Christians.

Fuck off JIDF
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