Is this true? What do we call it? I was thinking something like "Anti Westernism"
cultural vandalism
>>77580655
anti-civilization
they also believe in the myth of the "noble savage" eat "organic", use homeopathic "medicine" and think nature is some caring mother who looks after her children.
>>77580655
Treason.
>all liburuls are pro-Islam!!!!!!!!
We had a thread just yesterday, which is probably still up, about Sam Harris (liberal) saying Islam is a blight on humanity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sEcBzxoMB8
>>77580655
Leftism, if liberals were merely stupid, the laws of probability would dictate that at least some of their decisions would serve America's interests
>>77581303
and liberals will call him out as a racist because he's not following their narrative.
>>77581303
> One liberal
> meanwhile all the lefty parties in USA and Europe think otherwise
>>77581303
>Sam Harris (liberal)
Liberals describe him as a fascist hatemonger, though.
He's a classical liberal, not a liberal.
>>77581003
Germany nailed it
/thread
>>77581127
Spot on
It's actually from Christianity, extreme self guilt and forgiveness to the point of tolerance of any evil. This is what happens when there's no authority to regulate Christian morality, but the atheists don't mind maintaining Christian culture.
t. A Christian
>>77581003
Yep, like a friend called it, the disneyification of the world
>>77581688
non-scotch incomming
>>77581003
>eat "organic"
I will add this about the organic thing. It mostly boils down to sodium content. Fresh vegetables, fuck it. Forget the organic-ness about them.
But things like canned beans, it makes a big difference. Knocking out 600mg per day of sodium is a big step in the right direction for a lot of people. Especially if you have high blood pressure.
>>77581303
>taking the opinion of an atheist Zionist seriously
You must love watching him and Bill Maher suck each other off
Honest question:
If the modern Left can accept the tenants of Islam as a liberating force, why can't it accept Orthodox Judaism as also serving the same purpose?
Orthodox Jews, in particular Hasidim, seem like they embody plenty of things that would make their ideology good for revolution:
>communalism
>isolation from the dominant, capitalist ideology
>anti-liberal
>anti-consumerist
>reject existing world entirely
>live off each other and distrust the government
>believe in direct action to bring the messiah
>believe messiah brings utopia aka communism
>lurianic kabbalah is basically historical materialism
Also, let's not forget Jews, both secular AND religious, played a huge role in the development of communist theory and practice and participated in many revolutions. Don't pretend Marx was never exposed to Jewish paradigms just because he was raised Protestant.
>>77581688
victim blaming, check your priv
>>77581003
This somehow makes me wonder if all these virtue signalling bastards have read Rousseau... Somehow I doubt it.
>>77580812
I like this term, but to be honest I just like the Dutch.
>>77581857
Scotch or no scotch, it's hard to deny most western nations are Christian cultured, which means forgiveness and thus tolerance is considered a high virtue. In fact it's one of the last virtues left.
In typical Christian style, I'm saying, sorry, this was my fault. My bad. We really did have good intentions.
>>77582182
>if all these virtue signalling bastards have read Rousseau... Somehow I doubt it
link his blog please? jesus.
>>77581688
Brilliant anon, perfectly worded too. Definitely screenshotting this.
t. Redpilled Catholic
>>77580655
People only just figuring this out now?
>>77582325
I-I hope this is bait
>>77582325
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Jacques_Rousseau
>>77582875
>tfw coming down from caffeine intoxication and too tired to pick up on the sarcasm
Why do this?
>>77583022
I think a large part of it is that the uncontrollable digital media is picking up, people are now more inclined to source opinions from YouTube demagogues than authoritarian media sources, the former being more likely to form arguments based on facts, figures, reason and logical conclusions, which are naturally more convincing than pure sophistry.
>>77583159
I'm tired, so I'll bite.
>>77581003
100% this
they are anti-civ
>>77581880
fuck off you dirty jew. salt being bad is 100% untrue.
salt is good for you.
it goes way back when they found out iodine is good for you and fluoride is bad. so the jews started fluoridating the water and calling salt bad (most salt is fortified with iodine).
>>77582325
made me kek
>>77580812
>cultural vandalism
I like it.
>>77581303
The alt-right definition of liberal is simply: "he who has not been brainwashed in the exact same manner that I have."
>>77581003
>and think nature is some caring mother who looks after her children.
You mean like the welfare state?
>>77580655
>>77580812
>cultural vandalism
so in other words, cultural marxism
>>77581003
Nature is the most ruthless force on this planet. I love it how pro hippie these people are but in complete denial of the nature of nature. Many of there self acclaimed problems are just these faggots brushing up against the force of nature.
They'll spin whatever story to suit said agenda no matter how ridiculous it is. Blacks think dominant genes that are present and come to fruitian when breeding with a black is a positive trait and not the bottom line slave genes. That you can easily acquire breeding any other tribe of human with blacks you'll always have a gene stock of slaves. And they think recessive, more rare and precious traits are slave traits. That with these genes survival and replication only works with someone of similar gene set. You can breed with other tribes and still have aspects of oneself within the child sired but once you breed with the slave stock all you're going to acquire are slave genes.
Nature ensured there would be an abundance of slaves and a ruling class through genes.
Niggers will never understand this and literally believe coal is more precious to gold.
They believe Jewellery shops should be raising the value of coal above silver and gold because of how deluded they are.
A utopian society is pretty much one without negroes and semetic muslims.
>>77585328
Or muslims period.
>>77585328
It doesn't take blacks and muslims to create an underclass, though.
Look at the white underclass in Britain, for example. Dysgenics at its finest (worst). The same could probably be said about certain enclaves of whites in America, as well.
My feminist sister was talking about the oppression of Muslims and that, I think they have this delusion that the Middle East is just a giant bazaar of carpets, curry and people on camels. They don't see how Iran separates by gender and make women sit at the back or out on the street while the men sit inside, or how they throw gays off rooftops and hang them from cranes. They don't see female genital mutilation or acid attacks in Afghanistan. They don't see girls kidnapped in Nigeria and Mali by Boko Haram and sold off as sex slaves. Either they don't see these things or they choose to ignore the existence of them because it won't fit their narrative. They look at the Muslims in our nations which have been forced into secularization and think it's the norm while on the other side of the world Saudi Arabia pumps out terrorist propaganda, girls are honor killed in Pakistan and children are sold off into marriage in Yemen.
The left are as anti civilization as it comes defending this, but I don't see it changing.
>>77580812
They're cultural Marxists.
>>77580655
> One can hypothesize the presence of an initiatic Counter-Traditional body at work wherever a steady trend toward disorder persists. In the case of the rise of modernity, many different groups and interests were united in working to overthrow the old order: Protestants, Neo-Pagans, natural scientists, rationalist and empiricist philosophers, capitalists, and political liberals were among the first wave. Subsequent waves included Jews, socialists, anarchists, and Communists. But since the Second World War, the Jewish element of subversion and hegemony has become dominant.
self haters
>>77580655
Europhobia anon
>>77580655
They aren't anti-western-civilization, they are anti-white.
>>77581003
>eat "organic", use homeopathic "medicine"
Literally nothing wrong with either of these.
Probiotics and enzymes were considered homeopathic before mainstream medicine picked up on it.
Germany and Scandinavia both have licensed "Nature doctors".
>>77585896
Well stated.
>>77581747
That's pretty good. I'm gonna use that.
>>77580655
Occiphobia.
Fear of Western Civilization. We can use it as a buzzword like Islamophobia to shame our foes and use their style of deception against them.
>>77584849
Are you fucking retarded?
>>77581003
Nature is a cruel bitch.
She is Medea, not Gaia.
>>77580655
Systematic dishonoring is what it really is.
EVERY single institution which people think of as "honored" is being dishonored, while other groups that don't have honor in our society are being exalted like crazy.
Take for example Christianity. You can disagree with it all you like, but I have nothing but respect for many Christians who have faith in adversity, and still maintain to hold onto their values and ways of life. But Christianity, and religion in general, is being disparaged; people are saying that it's a tool of the weak minded or something to that effect; but in the same breath, these very same kind of people who disparage "religion" as a means of doping the people, will defend Islam and Muslims. through their teeth.
White people are racist, bigoted, sexist, ignorant people, but Africans are magically exempt from this.
Do you know why this is?
The classical liberal (A view that many of you guys share) will ask for true equality, the equality in being treated equally.
The modern leftist looks at the results, and blacks are in worse condition, and Muslims are being treated like second class citizens; so in their eyes, equality shouldn't be a treatment, but a result. Leftists want to dismantle what very little honor we have left and replace it with that very stupid idealistic egalitarianism. This is what French republicanism did to France; it de-socialized them and gave way to a type of theocracy centered around equality and liberty.
Quick question. Can people establish a kingdom in Europe? any kind of monarchy or system of government such as once had been?
It's impossible under a democracy. This is why the west has fallen.We've made what makes us "western" illegal.
>>77586065
in of themselves these are not bad things, but they seem to attract a certain kind of person
it's kinda like how a style of internet forum where you don't need an account and can post pictures easily doesn't necessarily suggest the 4th reich but in reality that's how it has played out
>>77580655
Satanic
>Leftism is inspired by Satan to destroy Christian civilisation
>Islam is inspired by Satan to destroy Christian civilisation
Both serve Satan and work to implement Satan's goals
>>77586879
It is both logical and inevitable to proceed from Locke's ideas of "human rights" to the Warren court's conception of "protected classes".
Liberalism in all of its forms - including "classical liberalism" - is a disease.
>>77581003
Hippy anarchists are what I see every time I find a bernbot in California. Pretty much all of that.
>Go bernie!
>I eat silver when I get a cold
>when I run out I eat one of my 9078969 piercings
>My race is canvas I think I had uncovered skin once
>I dip these beets farmed by mexican immigrants into silver when I get a cold and want to stick it to fascists
>Is bull prepping homosexual or heterosexual? Or perhaps it's own sexuality?
>Europe is perfect except for all the white people.
>>77580655
Anti-western is correct, they hate western culture (hence the naem cultural marxism) and want to tear it apart, by extension they also hate, hate, hate white people. Even if we were a non-violent cuck-country like sweden, they simple will not stop. They'll only stop when they MADE to stop.
>>77582325
>rousseau
>blog
>>77580655
This is not true at all.
Look at developed nations of the Far East like Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore.
They are certainly not pro-LGBT, nor pro-Islam.
>>77585896
Well said Anon
>>77580655
west hate.
>>77581491
Harris is a gigantic faggot
>>77581880
>>77586493
Check the flag before you even ask
>>77586016
As a history buff that map triggers me so much, when Muhammad died in 632 all that his nation controlled was the Arabian peninsula. The battles afterwards when they started expanding out are accurate in their location but for fucks sake, they didint even fucking get Constantinople until 1453.
>>77580655
What about non-left people that understand that western civilization and its intrinsic cuckoldry are the root for feminism, faggotry, socialism, anti-white ideologies and every sort of degeneracy?
The end of western civilization is a good thing, however takes over it won't be as much of a cuck as us.
>>77588564
*whoever
>>77587304
>we should all be equal
>let's make some groups more equal than others
You're fucking retarded
>>77580655
The soft racism of lowered expectations.
Its ok to dump all over Catholicism because its a reformed first-world religion. Its not ok to dump on Islam because its a religion of third-world brown people.
When you think about it, the globalism liberals are ironically the most elitist bunch. "All you backwards cave-dwellers and goat-fuckers get a free pass while the white male must (and does) live up to incredibly high standards"
>>77588682
It was Tony Blair, don't ask me how I know but it was Tony Blair who killed Jo Cox and then he pinned it on the other guy
Spread the facts lads
>>77580655
1 post by this id
They're like us in a sense. They wan't to destroy and replace society. The difference is that they want a commie paradise.
>>77580655
Of course it's true. It's the only unifying strain of thought that makes the actions of the left logical.
I've just been calling it anti western but I'm open to new names.
>>77586065
>homeopathic "medicine" is not bad
Ask Steve Jobs about that.
Oh wait...
The problem is that if it was REAL medicine, it wouldn't need the "homeopathic" modifier - it would just be called "medicine" (i.e. it actually works and isn't some psuedo-scientific mumbo jumbo.)
Homeopathic medicine kills people who should've had actual medical treatment.
>>77588811
That's not what it means.
Let's say you have 2 kids; only one of the kids is mommy's favorite and gets treated better than the other; this leads the other kid to feel left out and neglected. You, on the other hand, treat both kids equally. Due to the fact that their mother treats one better than the other, should you compensate for the other kid's neglect by treating him better than the other?
Or put mathematically; the mother gives Ben a cookie every day, neglecting Josh. You give 1 cookie to Ben and 1 Cookie to Josh, because you believe in equal treatment. Is it really equality when throughout their lives, Josh receives half as much as his brother, even though you're treating them equally?
It's not that one group should be more equal than the other; it's that there's an obvious inequality, and that inequality is being compensated through reparation (in the case of slavery) or increased minimum wage and other things.
>Is this true?
yes
>What do we call it?
treason, retardation, ignorance, delusion
>>77586246
But no one knows what that means. Call it Westophobia.
>>77587107
This too.
>>77587304
I think I sort of agree... But could you explain why it's inevitable to go from equality of opportunity in front of the law to equality of results?
>>77580655
It's regressivism.
>>77590286
There are no debtor or creditor groups of people. Or at least, there shouldn't be.
>>77588484
>history buff
Are you retarded? That is not a concurrent map, it's an events map.
Communism.
>>77581003
>get raised on Disney cartoons to think nature is beautiful and loving (Pocahontas), animals are thoughtful and caring (lion king), and Islam is a rich and lively culture (Aladdin) when in reality bears maul your shit, people die starving in the wilderness and modern Islam is completely bonkers
It all makes sense. The answers were there all along.
> Guénon and Evola believe that the occult war is carried on by secret initiatic societies. Just as Tradition is propagated through initiatic societies, the Counter-Tradition is propagated through counter-initiatic societies, which are profane images of genuine initiatic orders teaching inverted doctrines that promote decadence and decline.
>>77580655
Faggotry and feminism for white people and family values for Ahmed and his 3 wives.
You do the math.
The idea that there is some sort of effort to replace population is surely "some wacky conspiracy thory :o)" and makes you worse than Hitler to even consider.
It's pure mental illness/swedishness.
>>77591812
>, animals are thoughtful and caring (lion king),
I haven't seen that movie. I always wonder if it ever shows the lions eating lunch.
>>77581303
>about Sam Harris (liberal) saying Islam is a blight on humanity.
Or Bill Maher
>>77592237
> The idea that there is some sort of effort to replace population is surely "some wacky conspiracy thory :o)"
Why can't people understand, that is literally the basis of all wars and genocides. Replacing the population with pro-(you) faction.
Multiculturalism is also an age old tactic of divide and conquer.
>>77580655
It's called the jews and we must kill them all before they kill us.
>>77580655
Really makes you think.
>>77585794
The underclasses coming into power in Britain is largely the reason for the its current undoing.
Granted this is a problem in most democracies, but particularly in so for aristocratic empires. White Amercans are mostly from the pioneering stock that survived a myriad of challenges to get to this point, and I think is a major reason we are the greatest nation on earth and why we always produce a savior to take the helm and avert disaster like Reagan and Trump.
Say what you like about Reagan's globalist shit, at the time communism was losing its taboo and America had a real danger of following Russia's example and a lot of our left-wing politicians were in bed with the USSR and our academia was full of subversive elements trying to gain a foothold. The threat then was a lot more surreptitious because we didn't have all the information from Moscow that we do today and all the commie states were colluding to trick the world into the thinking they were legitimate and stable.
Now we have a more visceral threat of Islam and cultural Marxism in general and once again AMERICA is leading the western word away from destruction. Brexit wouldn't even have a shot if Trump hadn't shattered the overton window.
>>77592495
> Multiculturalism is also an age old tactic of divide and conquer.
I considered this.
There is a trick to fuck over the Muslim world.
Breed African niggers in mass and as Christians and send them to take over the Arab world.
Saudi Arabia needs to be Blacked.
>>77587834
>I can't spot an obvious joke
>>77580655
5th column.
>>77585328
If someone was really about nature, they'd be facists
>>77581491
>classical liberal
>endorses clinton
He is just another jew fuck, better than most of them but still a jew fuck
>>77581303
>alt-liberalism, the original unchanged one
>>77580655
More like human rights paradox.
>>77580812
Let's make this term big. The left constantly warps our language with their linguistic memes. Let's get back at em.
Cultural Vandalism.
It's not like they hide their hate for the west.
All this critical thinking, trying to break down the norms of our societies. Down with the family.
It's not some conspiracy theory. It's all open.
The weird thing is that they also want to increase the state. It's just a fucking mess.
>>77581003
>Nature, painted like a harlot.
>Red in tooth and claw.
Fuck with the bitch if you want...
>>77592669
I wish Wesley Clark was not put on that list.
He only has some Jewish ancestry and was strictly against the 7 Zionist neocon wars.
>>77580655
Anti normal White.
It's true and lately I have been sympathisizing with the left. They are still mental midgets but at the core, we both want to see this system desolve. Their problem is they have no vision for what will replace it, or they prefer something much worse like Islam or Bolshevism.
They don't understand that if we were dissolve the (((tentacles))) that strangled us, Western civilization would be much more appealing than it even is now.
>>77580655
It's cultural Marxism, deconstruct and denigrate the cultures of those states that rejected Communism (and now in the East, threw off Communism) to bring about a change to Marxist utopia.
Yeah I came to that conclusion in the 90s, and think it all stems from Marxism. The primary opponent of Marxism is capitalism, who's chief representative in the world in the US, followed by the other Western nations. The two bedrocks of western society are Capitalism and Christianity, so anything in opposition or conflict with these things are good. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, which is why Leftists were always sympathetic to virtually any nation or people the West came into conflict.
Look at any group the Left loves and its always due to a Marxist worldview. Women, anything not white (most Westerners are considered white), anyone poor by comparison to middle class and up, anything not Christian.
I think many don;t consider themselves Marxist but thats what they take all their views and influence from, so they might as be ones. Marxism is the most destructive thing to ever happen in history imo. Doesn't matter what you call them, they just change the word, alter the definition or convince everyone it's a good thing. The right can never win because it doesn't control the message, the universities, the mainstream media etc.
>>77593270
>He only has some Jewish ancestry and was strictly against the 7 Zionist neocon wars.
Dude, he's vocally anti White.
Serious question: why hasnt /pol/ compiled every single piece of information around the Jews and the globalists in a place?
>>77581003
>anti-civilization
The word you're looking for is "barbaric".
>>77582875
>t. Redpilled Catholic
Literally no such thing.
Francis is an anti-pope. Anyone who is still catholic is pozzed to hell and back.
>>77581491
he's a cultural vandal kike who just acts a little more edgy/smug to pick off the outliers who are "too intelligent" for the "peace & love" leftyfags.
>>77593606
I know a lot of traditional conservatives. They despise the Pope and think that he is powerless to change the core doctrines of the Church (which have never included being pro-mass immigration). Their general idea is that the rotten clergy are a punishment for faithlessness, although I'm not sure who is exactly is supposed to be punished by them -- society at large, maybe.
>>77593384
>I have been sympathisizing with the left.
Fucking moron.
>>77586879
>EVERY single institution which people think of as "honored" is being dishonored, while other groups that don't have honor in our society are being exalted like crazy.
Dunno if honour is the right word, but pretty accurate.
Things like the church, monogamy, even things like scientific method, are seen by neo-leftists (both the 'liberal' left, and the sneaky-sneaky neo[cultural]-marxists of all stripes), as aspects of the hegemonic culture that re-enforces capitalism. Now many of the young liberal leftists may not yet understand this, but that doesn't matter as most of them are in the rebellious teen stage. They don't really have a plan for what comes next. Simply institutions in the west that they see as the enemy that must be removed. Roll in the feedback-fed 'news' we have today, a 'news' that is more concerned with ratings and approval than fact, and that the neo-left tend to be the most vocal, and you'll understand why they are so successful. The people who'd fight back against them are silenced by cries of racist, fascist, sexist and the media plays along.
>>77586227
fuck off ezekiel
>>77593759
>Their general idea is that the rotten clergy are a punishment for faithlessness
>people lose their faith
>god retaliates by sabotaging his own church, driving away even more people
Is this god a moron or something?
>>77593759
>(which have never included being pro-mass immigration)
Everyone God's children.
>>77593606
There is a reason sedevacantism exists.
>>77581688
>>77581688
Redpilled anon, christiannity was good because of the men who lead the church not because of joseph wife's son
>>77581688
Could you extrapolate a little? What authority regulated Christian morality in the past?
>>77593896
>Everyone God's children.
What is this empty platitude supposed to mean? That people have the right to invade the countries of others, demand freebies and destroy the way of life of their hosts? Fuck off.
>>77581003
>be traditionalist
>refuse to eat food grown and/or made in a traditional manner
I have never understood why conservitards hate organic food so much.
>>77581303
Sam Harris is an extreme right-winger by definition. The definition is not agreeing with the left on Islam, which is racist, and all racism is by definition right-wing.
To be perfectly clear, if you don't LOVE ISLAM you are a nazisexismracist extreme right-winger homophobe. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too.
>>77580655
>>77580812
>>77581003
It's just Marxism
>>77580655
Conservatives overreacting as usual.
Nobody is "pro-Islam", just pro-religious freedom.
Nobody is "pro-LGBT", just pro-sexual freedom.
Conservatives seem to have a problem with freedom.
>>77580655
>tfw there are funnier Twitter accounts than Stephen Colbert and John Oliver
>>77594023
The church?
>>77594007
Any thought can be abused.
>>77580655
"anti-American" isn't good enough?
>>77593890
>>people lose their faith
>>god retaliates by sabotaging his own church, driving away even more people
They say it's a test: the truly faithful Catholics will go to Mass whatever happens, because only the sacraments matter (especially the Eucharist), not the corruption or idiocy of the clergy. They see it as a purification that will drive away the cafeteria Catholics, fence-sitters and merely social church-goers. But I think you're right, there's not much point in having a church which only consists of a tiny hard core of totally orthodox people, unless that hard core is going to serve as the catalyst for some kind of massive spiritual renewal in the future.
>>77594124
You're lying.
Even Salon acknowledges this.
http://www.salon.com/2015/11/17/the_left_has_an_islam_problem_if_liberals_wont_come_to_terms_with_religious_extremism_the_xenophobic_right_will_carry_the_day/
The hard-left/antifa faggots prefer Islam to Xtanity.
>>77594264
>god shit-tests his followers
Is this god hypothesized to be a bitchy woman?
>>77594079
>I have never understood why conservitards hate organic food so much.
The term "organic" is mostly a marketing scam; look at the precise definition and you'll see how loose the definition. You're likely paying a premium to eat produce that is still grown with pesticides. Traditional conservatives, not the mutant neo-cohen variety calling themselves "conservative" today, have a deep respect for farming and for the idea of being close to the land in general.
>>77594266
Well obviously I can't speak for all liberals but I've yet to meet a liberal in favour of Shariah law for example. The two ideologies are contradictory.
I have no problems with religious people as long as they don't try to shove it down everyone else's throat. Radicals can fuck off.
>>77594070
It's cuckstian, it means everyone is the same.
This is expressed repeatedly in cuckstianity.
"There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." Galatians 3:28
Yes, that's what it means in cuckstianity. It's a self loathing death cult.
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple. luke 14:26.
Seems you are quite ignorant of christcuckery.
>>77594499
You haven't noticed in your circle a sniggering contempt for christians that islam is spared?
>>77593557
You have to look real hard for it. Typically find some info on Holocaust revisionist websites but they're mostly concerned with debunking the gas chamber myths rather than the reasoning behind it.
>>77580655
>What do we call it?
gay
>>77594124
>Nobody is "pro-Islam", just pro-religious freedom.
>Nobody is "pro-LGBT", just pro-sexual freedom.
You can't flood a country with Muslims and expect the situation for homosexuals to improve; the core values of both groups are in conflict. The only reason that the Left can support both groups at once is that both are seen (rightly) as destabilizing forces against traditional Western civilization. If they really cared about "religious freedom" they wouldn't be constantly attacking Christianity, and if they really cared about "sexual freedom" they wouldn't be attacking typical heterosexual encounters by characterizing so many of them as coercive.
>>77594397
The definition of organic is pretty clear, it's just a compound of carbon.
>>77594124
Liberals are neither, they're pro-Minority. Anything they can exploit as an "oppressed class" and use to bludgeon the primary culture and ethos with.
>>77594397
They have to be "organic pesticides though".... Which of course adds to the price and doesn't really mean anything since most of them are "organic" anyway, it really only impacts fillers
>>77594577
I suppose some people are hesitant to criticise Islam for fear of violent retribution.
A real liberal however will criticise both.
Like this Dutch comedian for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryYETmi9lNA
He a lefty like me and has no issue criticising Islam. And good on him. No religion should be above criticism.
>>77594651
Yeah, that's NOT what it means in the context of food in America.
http://www.fda.gov/AboutFDA/Transparency/Basics/ucm214871.htm
>>77594396
>Is this god hypothesized to be a bitchy woman?
This is typical of the orthodox Christian conception of God, which is why Catholics believe that suffering is intrinsically beneficial to people (at least to the faithful ones). I don't agree with that, of course; good people can learn lessons from suffering, but pain is mostly pointless, destructive and undeserved.
>>77594124
>Nobody is "pro-Islam", just pro-religious freedom.
Being pro-Islam is being anti-religious freedom. Because they'll force everyone to convert, and kill those who wouldn't. Islam is the problem.
>>77594564
>Yes, that's what it means in cuckstianity. It's a self loathing death cult.
That supposedly "self loathing" cult kept Islam at bay for more than a thousand years. Christianity is not inherently cucked (its more unrealistic exhortations were usually just ignored by its followers), but it has absorbed the suicidal spirit of the age which is even more prevalent outside the churches than within them. SJWs for example hate Christianity.
>>77594079
Because its overpriced and overrated by leftist scum. Go spend a day at your local whole foods and you'll see what I mean.
>>77594602
I think you're confusing issues here.
I'm a lefty but I'm not in favour of mass immigration or feminism.
Muslims need to accept the liberal way of life if they want to live in this country.
That said, muslims have a lot more in common with conservatives than they do with liberals.
>>77594793
Not necessarily. Liberals want fair and equitable treatment for all. Generally speaking of course.
Is that not something to strive towards?
>>77594815
Fucking America, man.
>>77594124
>Nobody is "pro-Islam", just pro-religious freedom.
islam isn't a religion, it's a civilizational doctrine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmyGC96ClcE#t=7m50s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y#t=2m45s
>Nobody is "pro-LGBT", just pro-sexual freedom.
Nonsensical, you've been jew indoctrinated well.
>>77595125
>Is that not something to strive towards?
Depends on what you mean, fair and equitable treatment under the law has existed in Britain for centuries.
If "fair and equitable treatment" means redistribution of income, quotas for minorities, and generally disrupting the process of meritocracy, then no - I do not strive towards that.
The equitable treatment of people is a given, but the equitable treatment of ideas - especially concerning religion, is not. There is one state religion of the United Kingdom, it is Anglicanism - other strains of Christian thought such as Catholicism (and whilst we were Catholics, we were known as "the pious English", Calvinism etc). Other religions, but particularly Islam, should not be on an equal legal standing as Christianity.
>>77595071
>That supposedly "self loathing" cult kept Islam at bay for more than a thousand years.
Wrong, Whites kept islam at bay.
>Christianity is not inherently cucked
huehuehue, born a sinner. You really should try reading the bible.
>>77580812
First post always best post.
>>77594926
Well all religious fantatics want everyone to convert to their way of thinking. Islamists are just more violent these days.
I agree that radical Islam is a serious threat to liberal western societies though.
>>77595311
Jew indoctrinated? I doubt it.
I believe that people can believe what they want so long as they don't harm others or infringe on their rights.
Nothing "Jewish" about that.
>>77580655
This is the main theme. The common thread.
Without white male dominated western culture the left is nothing but inconsistencies. They are built upon our foundation. In our shadow.
When removed from the situation
>Muslim terrorist
>LGBT
They short circuited and all they have been talking about for days is guns or "white gun culture". Its incredibly funny to watch this. You can't Blame Muslims. You can't blame Gays. You can blame white people. So even in our absence we are at fault.
Look at all the garbage being posted on social media. They can't help it. Its a cult run by Jews.
>>77595447
*Other strains of Christian thought have contributed greatly to our national development, and should be tolerated but not privileged.
>>77594815
>pizza is a vegetable
>>77580812
I remember when cuck started its grassroots origins here starting as an inside joke then transforming into the infamous term it is today
Lets make cultural vandalism big /pol/
One perfect insult after another will stump the leftists
>>77580655
We have a term for it already; cultural marxism
>>77595125
>I'm a lefty but I'm not in favour of mass immigration or feminism.
You sound more like a centrist. Real leftists would consider you ideologically unsound.
>That said, muslims have a lot more in common with conservatives than they do with liberals.
This is a common myth. In reality, there is a Golden Mean between left-wing degeneracy and Islamic repression, and our society was able to maintain that balance for a long time prior to the 1960s.
>>77595491
>Wrong, Whites kept islam at bay.
White Christians.
>huehuehue, born a sinner. You really should try reading the bible.
The idea that everyone is born a sinner, whether one agrees with it or not, is meant to be universal, so it cannot be interpreted as putting one particular ethnic or racial group at a disadvantage relative to the others.
>>77592363
The lion hangs out with a boar and meerkat and eats bugs.
Not kidding.
It's a decent film, though. Good way to ease kids into Shakespeare (it's basically Animal Hamlet.)
>>77580655
Fifth Column
>>77595447
>Other religions, but particularly Islam, should not be on an equal legal standing as Christianity.
Why not? Christianity was imported to Britain from the middle east same as Islam and Judaism.
Some muslims are decent people and deserve fair treatment.
The wealthy elite are a minority but you don't see liberals defending them because they are oppressors rather than the oppressed.
>>77595871
>>77592894
This is the only answer. But /pol/ is retarded.
>>77581303
he's still a leftist CIA nigger
>>77595752
I'm certainly a lefty by /pol/ standards.
>This is a common myth. In reality, there is a Golden Mean between left-wing degeneracy and Islamic repression, and our society was able to maintain that balance for a long time prior to the 1960s.
Again, I urge you to show me a lefty who is in favour of religious repression, Islamic or otherwise.
Liberalism stands for freedom.
What pisses me off the most about yhe left is when a terrorist attack happens its "not all muslims" but when that one right wing guy killed jo cox its "everyone on the right wing" im sick of the damn double standards and how hard they try to push an agenda. They act as if they care about the people killeed when in reality they jerk off to tragedies like this so they can blame the right as quick as possible to further their agenda
>>77594923
>but pain is mostly pointless, destructive and undeserved.
Not if you're a Christian, which is the whole point you seem to misunderstand. Because of the Cross, suffering is given meaning and in some sense dignified.
Suffering isn't intrinsically beneficial, but if one *must* suffer then it can become so.
>>77590250
I'm balls deep in homeopathic/naturopaths/chiropractors.
It's bullshit.
Here's the deal, Homeopath stuff appeals to people that essentially are jealous of western Doctors, their wealth, and their status in society. They are generally very gullible, and often are looking for some special thing that elevates them above others. They are also often MLM/Pyramid scheme suckers. You should see the ridiculous gadgets they buy that are literally the most scientology-tier garbage.
Every person I know that subscribes to this way of thought are always full of conspiracies about "big pharma" and how all Doctors are brainwashed/on the take/ignorant. Homeo/naturo/Chiro believers basically want to think they are smarter than Doctors, and ignore the educational requirements. Ironically, whenever some actual MD supports their claims, they won't shut up about it.
One of these people I know was a PA (Physicians Assistant), and keeps her license valid, while she regularly calls western medical practitioners corrupt. She wants the medical "bona fides" of the modern medicine, but shits on it all day.
>>77580655
Keep it simple. Call it treason.
Everyone who is left supports Stalin & Mao
Every American is a Redneck
Every German/Swede is a cuck
Every Australian is a shitposter
Every Bernie/Hillary supporter is a commi
Every fag should die
Every nigger should die
Basically everyone who isnt white/asian should die
90% of the white people should die too
oh and all woman
Can i join you now, /pol/?
>>77594124
Islam is a political and social ideology, just like communism or nazism.
>>77595906
Because Islam has not contributed to our national way of life, is not part of our tradition, and is well-known for destroying the old religious traditions of the countries it conquers.
>Some muslims are decent people and deserve fair treatment.
All Muslims deserve equal treatment under the law, their religion does not deserve the right to erect minarets in British cities, to play that ghastly call to prayer, to demand holidays for their superstition, to brutally slaughter animals, and to mutilate their children (with the last two applying to Jews likewise).
>The wealthy elite are a minority but you don't see liberals defending them because they are oppressors rather than the oppressed.
Is this supposed to be news to me? Liberals look for the "oppressed", and then demand concessions for that class, whilst denigrating the majority culture. They care nothing for the national interest, economic health, societal health, or even "unity" - why else would they set the poor upon the rich, black on white, women against men?
>>77595849
If they were pastafarians they would have been White pastafarians that kept islam at bay. Apparently you also don't know history, cuckstianity came to be and was pushed onto an existing advanced civilization, you might have heard of it, Rome. .cucks are fucking irrelevant to its achievement. The death cult was imposed as a political maneuver instead of dealing with christcucks, a mistake.
>>77595906
>Christianity was imported to Britain from the middle east same as Islam and Judaism.
Their core doctrines are completely different. Islam promotes expansion through violence, Christianity does not.
>Again, I urge you to show me a lefty who is in favour of religious repression, Islamic or otherwise.
They won't come out and say "I'm in favour of beheading Christians, mutilating the clitorises of women, and throwing gays off tall buildings" for obvious reasons. But most of them will give you a supposed reason why these things are either not as bad as they seem or why, even if they are bad, it's all the West's fault anyway, and let's change the subject to the sins of Christianity.
>Liberalism stands for freedom.
Leftism stands for authoritarianism and always has done. You can't have a centrally planned economy without an apparatus of surveillance, enforcement and punishment to bring into line those who want to act freely on their own independent of the vision the Left has for society. Communism is always the natural outcome of a left-wing monopoly on power.
>>77596121
>Suffering isn't intrinsically beneficial, but if one *must* suffer then it can become so.
This is no more or less than what I said. It can become beneficial, but not necessarily -- pain just makes most of us irritable. And most pain is needless in the sense that there was never any real reason for it to exist in the first place, as with those infants who are born with exposed nerve endings, or people who shit out their insides due to hemorrhagic fever, or those cooked alive by volcanic eruptions, etc.
>>77580655
Cultural Vandalism
Cultural Marxists
Anti-Civilization
Fifth Column
This is a good battery of terms for future use.
See, this is the difference between 4chan and other places. We sit and have a discussion and create content. Everyone else just duplicates and, on good days, mutates. We create.
Find a flaw.
>>77581127
>>77581632
accurate, but not a powerful term seeing as they hate nationalism. they'd probably embrace it.
>>77581003
God damn germany. Well said.
>>77596436
>Because Islam has not contributed to our national way of life, is not part of our tradition, and is well-known for destroying the old religious traditions of the countries it conquers.
The same could be said about Christianity when it was spread throughout Europe.
>All Muslims deserve equal treatment under the law, their religion does not deserve the right to erect minarets in British cities, to play that ghastly call to prayer, to demand holidays for their superstition, to brutally slaughter animals, and to mutilate their children (with the last two applying to Jews likewise).
I agree with that. Religious people need to conform to modern secular society. Not the other way around.
>Is this supposed to be news to me? Liberals look for the "oppressed", and then demand concessions for that class, whilst denigrating the majority culture. They care nothing for the national interest, economic health, societal health, or even "unity" - why else would they set the poor upon the rich, black on white, women against men?
That's not true at all. Liberals want equitable treatment for all. The wealthy elite have an inordinate amount of power and thus rights over the average citizen.
I care about my fellow countrymen. The vast majority of whom work for most of their lives to afford to put food on the table. I want them to enjoy a better life.
>>77596662
>Their core doctrines are completely different. Islam promotes expansion through violence, Christianity does not.
Depends on who you ask. But yes, these days, Islamists are far more prominent and violent than Christian extremists.
>Leftism stands for authoritarianism and always has done.
You couldn't be more wrong. Communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless society. Most of the examples of "communism" throughout history have been dictatorships.
>>77580655
its called marxism you retards
>>77584913
not an argument
>>77599146
This. Plain and simple.
>>77599102
>Communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless society.
Yeah in theory; not in practice. Even the isolated examples of anarchist communism were in the midst of violent wars and coercive.
>>77581003
Thats romantics movement in a nutshell
>>77599102
>You couldn't be more wrong. Communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless society. Most of the examples of "communism" throughout history have been dictatorships.
So which is it -- "stateless", or a dictatorship involving an all-powerful State? "Classless", or a rigidly stratified society with the nomenklatura as a ruling class like in the USSR? If you're trying to pitch the fantasy of "muh ideal Communism", it has never existed because it cannot exist.
>>77588484
It actually comes from a youtube video, and the map updates by year to show their expansion and eventual retraction.
Here it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo
>>77599580
Ussr disnt reach communism just socialism
>>77586065
>Probiotics and enzymes were considered homeopathic
That's bullshit. Homeopathy is the principle of treating diseases with stuff that supposedly causes them diluted below the limit of detection. That's all homeopathy is about. Needless to say that it's not worth more than any placebo.
>>77599367
1800s romanticism was pretty based honestly. It produced a ton of great art, literature and music while embracing nationalism.
>>77599734
>Ussr disnt reach communism just socialism
Funny how all the Communist countries never reached "true Communism", isn't it? Never mind, it's probably just a coincidence -- I'm sure you'll get it right next time, even if another 60+ million deaths are needed to get through the transitional stage before utopia can be achieved.
>>77599335
Well, in theory, capitalism is supposed make the wealth trickle down. Not in practice however.
>>77599580
Well there have been cases that were pretty close. Spain before Franco for example.
For some reason, capitalists always choose the USSR as a prime example of communism. I suppose it suits their agenda.
Anyway, I'm not a communist.
>>77600191
>Well, in theory, capitalism is supposed make the wealth trickle down.
Wonderful strawman. In terms of communism vs capitalism, capitalism has been far, far better for the poor than communism.
>>77600191
How about Venezuela? Cuba? China before it embraced Capitalism? Brazil?
>>77580655
>anti-Western-civilization
There are no western nations without white people
anti-Western-civilization is a codeword for anti-white
cucks like this belong in the fire
>>77600191
>Well there have been cases that were pretty close. Spain before Franco for example.
Spain before Franco was already involved in savagely persecuting its political enemies. Not exactly an ideal society by any stretch.
>capitalists always choose the USSR as a prime example of communism. I suppose it suits their agenda. Anyway, I'm not a communist.
If you're not, why do you assume that anyone who criticizes Communism must be a "capitalist"? Anyway, the USSR is merely the most famous example of Communism: there was also China, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Ethiopia, Mozambique, Angola, Poland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and probably more that I've forgotten. None of these countries achieved anything remotely close to a classless, stateless society, and all were characterized by some degree of political repression and scarcity. Despite that fact, you seem to reserve your criticism for "capitalism", which at least has given most of us an excellent standard of living by historical standards. (That said, capitalism is merely an efficient tool to allocate resources, not an end in itself -- which is why I'm a conservative, not a "capitalist").
>>77581303
Correct. Not all liberals are sunny on Islam and some blacks in the US and Africa have impressive IQ. But most liberals do support the spread of Muslims to western nations and most people with sub-Saharan DNA are borderline retarded.
Ultimately this is a reality that liberals have to deal with though. As the alt-right has pointed out, the liberal loses more from an Islamic influence scenario than the traditionalist. All that degenerate shit liberals are accustomed to and love dearly is strictly banned in Islam. Meanwhile most trads don't care about any of that and could easily stay out of the urban centers were the worst islamization would occur.
Heads we win, tails you lose. Personally I hope you continue living the lie that the left is waking up. It'll be glorious to watch the savages remind you of your mistakes on a daily basis.
>>77600882
>Meanwhile most trads don't care about any of that and could easily stay out of the urban centers were the worst islamization would occur.
Trads have no interest in converting to Islam, though, or paying any punitive "jizya" tax. This guarantees that we will come into conflict with any future Muslim authority as well, even if we are in a much better position to resist than the emasculated nu-males and delusional "strong womyn" of the urban Left.
>>77593759
>I'm not sure who is exactly is supposed to be punished by them -- society at large, maybe.
Absent a devastating terror attack on the Vatican, I can't see anything breaking the Catholic Church out of its far left death-spiral.
>>77580655
It's true and I've been saying it for years. Everything the Left promotes is ultimate against Western civilization, even if in conflict in every other way.
>>77593606
>the pope is bad therefore leave the church
You know nothing of your faith.
>>77594079
>hate organic food
Do you mean "slap some stickers on it and the idiots will flock to buy this because of muh snowflakes"
gluten, "eco-friendly" and other slogans which most either don't even have to worry about is prevalent among leftists so that they can stick more stickers onto their foreheads about how special they are
>>77601457
If your church is run by a Marxist agent, you need to find a new church.
I'm not telling you to go full tipping fedora. I'm telling you that you need to disassociate yourself with the RCC. Find a Church that isn't pozzed to hell by subversive leftists.
>>77601088
Trads live hundreds of miles from the Urban centers where muslims would be in firm control. Yes, obviously they'd be in conflict with the muzzies, but the urbanite degenerate leftists would literally be killed en masse.
Can you imagine the massacre if a muslim population the size of East London's went into the East Village of NYC on sharia patrol? That shit would make the Night of the Long Knives look like an Easter egg hunt.
The point is, right wingers have the capability to ride out an islamic crisis and probably hold a lot of their current territory. Leftists would lose swiftly and their punishment would be brutal.
>>77580655
Google "Castes of the United States". You'll figure it out.
>>77601264
I'm not sure. The Catholic church is no sicker than the rest of society's institutions (e.g. media, schools, police, corporations etc.), and is only sick for the same reasons. An economic collapse would wake a lot of people up in a hurry (competing for scarce resources would certainly cure the enthusiasm for admitting "refugees" and other immigrants), and an active political persecution by a future totalitarian state would ironically probably give the Church renewed vitality as an agent of resistance. The problem right now is that everyone is too prosperous, complacent, and ignorant of reality to really live their faith, and the cancer of Leftism has offered them a seductive alternative to their actual religion.
>>77601625
There's a difference, a VAST difference, between disassociating yourself from the church emanating from Rome and ceasing to be catholic. I attend an independent chapel that keeps the faith as it had always been up until the mid-20th century.
>>77580655
Cultural Marxism
>>77580655
Being Pro-LGBT isn't anti-Western though. Above all, Western values hold Reason at their core, and it's certainly not reasonable to care about other people's sexuality. Pro-Islam isn't inherently anti-Western, either- most of the anti-West rhetoric comes as a result of social class leading to lack of education and exposure to "ghetto" culture which poisons the minds of people worldwide. Most criminals are poor people because of their socio-economic condition, and the same is applied to all other races of human on Earth.
>>77580655
I'm not pro-Islam, I'm just not anti-Islam. Or, I'm not anymore anti-Islam than I am anti-Christianity. Christians tried to stifle gay rights for decades, the only reason why they're not relevant is because they lost the culture war, and now they've basically been supplanted by Islam.
Basically, religion is toxic. If we're going to eliminate Islam, why not eliminate any religion that describes homosexual behavior as sinful? Why stop at Islam? Let's take this all the way.
>>77603260
Kill yourself.
>>77603386
Delete your account.
>>77602767
Actually it is reasonable, part of the social contract inherent in maintaining a civilization is demanding that all its members ensure continuation of that civilization. A populace that celebrates failing its responsibilities is on a direct path to self destruction.
>>77604269
At what point do you take that line of thought to it's logical conclusion and punish every member of society that isn't functioning at 100% efficiency? You seems to forget that most people's major motivation for participating in the social contract is an easier life with time for pleasure.
>>77604269
Trannies are less than 0.1% of the population. They are not contributing to the "self destruction" of the populace at large by any significant margin. It is wholly unreasonable to care about such a minute part of the population.
>>77591254
>go from equality of opportunity in front of the law to equality of results?
When you set aside first sight intuition, you realize they are the same. It all rests on the fact that opportunity is an all encompassing term.
If a father gives his children precedence over others, that is a clear violation of "equality of opportunity". In fact the mere situation of being real, and thus individualized goes against equality of opportunity.
The only way to truly get equality of opportunity is to all be entirely undifferentiated, which would also bring equality of outcome.
>>77602767
faggotry is disease.
>>77603260
>I'm just not anti-Islam.
Hey look, it's ignorance talking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmyGC96ClcE#t=7m50s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y#t=2m45s
>>77580655
It's called Communism you retard.
Where have you been the last century?
>>77603260
>why not eliminate any religion that describes homosexual behavior as sinful?
There's no reason to unless the religion responds to sexuality with violence.
There's nothing wrong about viewing certain sexual behaviors as immoral.
>>77605022
The fact of the matter is that the LGBT community operates well below the average in productivity, especially in a reproductive sense, and on top of that actively encourages even non-gays not to reproduce by "living the life" with no concern for future generations.
Imagining a world where this has to be some black and white scenario demanding a certain level of societal involvement is looking at it all wrong. Society exists to encourage good behaviors, not venerate self-destructive ones.
>>77605171
Which is exactly why I said celebrates during this, the Gay pride month of June. Society still functioned just fine when gays were held in the closet by societal disapproval.
>>77605171
faggots "recruit" and are by in large pedophiles.
>>77601890
>The Catholic church is no sicker than the rest of society's institutions (e.g. media, schools, police, corporations etc.), and is only sick for the same reasons.
But unlike those institutions there isn't any populist means to remove the poison. The church hierarchy is entirely insular.
> An economic collapse would wake a lot of people up in a hurry (competing for scarce resources would certainly cure the enthusiasm for admitting "refugees" and other immigrants), and an active political persecution by a future totalitarian state would ironically probably give the Church renewed vitality as an agent of resistance.
The church has embraced a totalitarian state in the EU and the economic crisis being caused by migrant invasion has only caused them to double-down on their leftist behavior.
>The problem right now is that everyone is too prosperous, complacent, and ignorant of reality to really live their faith, and the cancer of Leftism has offered them a seductive alternative to their actual religion.
I sympathize with this argument, because I do believe the resource abundance drove a lot out of the church; however, it mostly drove the liberals out and not the traditionalists. This suggests to me that in a scarcity situation with the current church you'd probably get even more leftist behavior.
In all honesty I think they're gearing up to be the designated dhimmi control program of the new islamic europe.
>>77601905
If you're not a papist, why call yourself a catholic?
>>77606804
>believing that the man currently claiming to be the pope is bad and possibly a heretic means I don't believe there should be a pope
You people sure are dumb.
>>77593547
This
>>77580655
>Is this true?
Yes .
>>77608755
Tip for /pol/ in general:
always include source for these kinds of quotes or people assume it's bullshit.
>>77595125
>muslims have a lot more in common with conservatives than they do with liberals
Huh
>>77596421
label me plz
>>77580812
Perfect.
>>77580655
Disagree.
Homosexuality has always been part of western civilization
>>77613077
It's not. Just because you see hundreds of gay clubs since you illegally crossed the border, doesn't mean the degeneracy in America represents the western civilisation.
>>77580655
"Liberalism" no need to try to make a new name for it.
>>77605976
The celebration of gay pride does nothing for the collapse of the state. Open homosexuality is not a significant contributing factor to the birthrate of countries. Every country in the world is suffering from a falling birthrate- some slower than others. If homosexuality or transexuality were significant factors (they're not) then why are countries that are repressing these sexualities still suffering from a declining birth rate?
>>77606156
Conspiracy theories aside, you're going to have to prove to me that any significant portion of western population is "homosexual". No, I don't mean "feminized" men, numales or cucks, as you clowns so often put it, I mean men legitimately hell-bent on having penis in and around their mouths, or women with a less-than-healthy attraction to carpets.
>>77613077
This man is correct. Homosexuality has been at the bedrock of western civilization since the age of the Greeks and the Romans.
>>77583267
Talk about healthy I used to consume tons of caffeine, but I cut out my preworkout, energy drinks, and caffeinated soda, and Im much more productive and energetic.
Loxism
>>77615899
>Conspiracy theories aside, you're going to have to prove to me that any significant portion of western population is "homosexual".
You're asking to prove an argument that isn't being made(by me or anyone else I've seen in this thread.)
Jewry
How is pro-LGBT anti-Western-civilization?
Say what you want about the east but they are not as gay as we are.
Daddy issues
>>77580655
Yes, it's called Fuck You Dadism and started in earnest with the Iraq War. For most modern liberals, Dubya is the most evil man to ever exist and everything they do is because they to this day are still triggered by him.
>>77580655
It's just liberalism, which is just double-think in political form. It's why Hillary can take millions from Muslims and still claim to be pro-women and pro-LGBTQ at the same time.
>If opposing party favors A and opposes B
>We will oppose A and favor B in order to get those votes
>>77618005
you must be young to think things started with bush.
Most of you are overthinking it They support the most anti-white and especially anti-white family narrative.
Muslims are brown = helps with white genocide.
Gays don't produce = helps with white genocide.
>>77588484
And guess what Mr. History Buff, there were multiple crusades that spanned over a long period of time too.
>>77580655
This is true, as seen by your dubs.
>>77618710
If you're suggesting crusades and jihad are equivalent, no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y#t=2m45s
>>77581303
Okay let me correct the record. "Most Liberals except for certain individuals like Bill Maher and Christopher Hitchens that have taken a regressive stance to American politics."
Or I can just say Liberal.
