They've got a point right? I mean, if we can't be trusted to carry out a campaign without resorting to murder, can we be trusted to go it alone without the EU?
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/rod-liddle-rip-jo-cox/
>>77540367
Is this some kind of shilling?
Because I don't get it. The UK is fucked anyway.
Just thank the IBs you aren't a full-on Pakistani/Saudi offshoot yet.
>>77540596
Not even remotely shilling. Today's events have just been a wake up call as to the level of debate and rhetoric used in the arguments and that when all bantz are left aside, Britain will be better in the EU. To claim otherwise after today's events would be heartless, so while the campaigns have suspended their activities, we should be suspending the bantz and promoting unity.
Such a transparent false flag desu
>>77541022
While you may benefit by staying in, I want you out. The EU needs a wake up call to change its policies fast.
BREXIT is that wake up call. Go away bongs.
>>77541046
I keep hearing insensitive people throwing that word around. I don't think you really understand what it means.
Dad, you're doing it wrong. This is not how you politics.
>>77540367
>They've got a point right? I mean, if we can't be trusted to carry out a campaign without resorting to murder, can we be trusted to go it alone without the EU?
Not an argument
>>77541727
fuck off shill
>>77541727
wew lad
>>77541727
Dear Bong, you had your chance. The UK is a drag for the EU, mainly because of the pound and your arrogance.
Go away. I sincerely hope you rot away on your island, with all your muzzies breeding and raping. When Brexiters will realize it wasn't the EU's fault but your own fault, you will come beg to the EU to get back in.
And you will be refused to, damn pakis.
>>77541727
nigger
Fuck off, shill.
>>77542016
Please stay and pay for our denbts, t. Italy
>>77540367
The EU should kick us out - we don't deserve to be on the same level as the civilised European states.
>>77541727
>insensitive people
>pol
FFS can't they hire someone competent. Are you the guy I debated earlier or another shill. You write pretty damn similar.
>>77541867
>Not an argument
Not a rebuttal
>>77541991
>>77541992
>>77542016
Not an argument
>>77542090
ad hominem
I've set out my case. Unless there is an intelligent level of argument to prove me wrong, then I'll just argue at the same level as the militant brexiteers
>>77542220
Nope. The EU will be united in a single entity with blood and iron, like Bismarck did a while ago.
No more fucking arounds. Europa magna now.
We will colonize the world once again and enslave all the niggers.
>>77542397
Stay in the EU please. I would love nothing more than to watch as you arrogant limey cunts get exactly what you asked for. You've been cucked little good goy since 1777, I wouldn't expect you to change now.
>>77542397
There's no need to prove you wrong. You are right.
But we don't want you. We don't want no more whiny bongs anymore. No more.
>>77542397
Honestly, just kill yourself.
>>77542397
Literally not an argument.
>Suspend democracy for over 60 million people because 1 mentally ill man attacked someone
>>77540367
Sounds very convenient for the side getting cunted in the polls. There is not even any confirmation he had anything to do with the campaigns.
>>77542573
>cucked since 1777
So losing a war is being cucked now is it? The USA hasn't won a war in just over 70 years and even then, you relied on the knowledge of german scientists to help you. Good one, Americuck.
>>77542397
Obviously Shill is obvious. Not set out any decent argument, just some random appeal to emotion. Then cries when people respond in turn. Yeah no.
I hope you die like Di
>>77541727
Please, actually take a knife and cut your throat open with it.
Oh wait, anything sharper than a rubber ball is banned in bongland. Don't worry though, I'm sure Jamal next door will be more than happy to stab you to death and take all of your money.
>>77542573
>Conquer 25% of the world's landmass and establish the greatest empire after losing a spit of land in North America
>getting cucked since 1777
Try again
>>77542824
Bong, stop whining. You will get out of the EU and become irrelevant. Fuck you.
Damn subhumans. Staying in the EU is obviously the best thing for you. Not for us.
>>77540367
>>77541022
>>77541727
>>77542397
>>77542824
The money has been deposited into your account.
Keep up the good work and you'll earn an EU flag in no time
>>77542397
>Not a rebuttal
You don't need to rebut a stupid non-point. It isn't an argument because the entire nation's democratic decision shouldn't be withheld from us because of the actions of one madman.
>>77542518
On the contrary, EU is new soviet union, cuck edition.
>>77542807
>>77542846
>>77542958
>>77543023
>>77543154
Way to refute the central point guys! Keep up the good work!
Seriously, your arms must be tired from all this circle jerking.
>bongs
No one gives a fuck about your irrelevant little vote from your irrelevant yuropoor country. Stop shitting up the board.
>>77540367
faggot
>>77541727
If this was a stitchup by remainers using some mentally disturbed stooge then yeah false flag (metaphorically) applies.
Everyone but you appears to know what that phrase means.
>>77543262
>It isn't an argument because the entire nation's democratic decision shouldn't be withheld from us because of the actions of one madman.
Why am I still tempted by this bait
>>77540367
Please try at least to explain yourself, you literal idiot.
>someone gets murdered
>oh no better stay in a politicalunion that is detrimental to the well doing of my country
Where is the connection?
People will continue to get slain, whether we stay in the EU or not.
>>77543228
Except the soviet union was run by totalitarians with a leftist bent. The EU is run by corporatists and cartel types who somehow convinced some on the left that the EU is a good idea.
>>77542972
>>77542824
You fools. I wasn't talking about war, although of course your lizard brains would jump there. You're cucked because you allowed yourself to be ruled by tyrants. We threw off your shackles. America should have been the wake up call, but the English continued on there way. How will it feel when no one around you is even from Britain? You think Abdul is going to reason it out with you? Your masters found better puppets and it is too late to cut your strings.
>>77543262
The problem is, you have no point. Therefore it can't be refuted. Which you use to pretend everyone else is being unreasonable and childish.
I've had the BBC on all night. The 'Put Britain first' rhetoric has now been reported by the BBC and has even been discussed with footage from Britain First protests. Angela Eagle has done a 180 on what she tweeted as it happened and her account now has no traces of tweets accusing her of the 'Britain first' tweet she tweeted. Hell, even the eyewitness accounts of what actually happened seem to be manipulated by the news. I'm not crying false flag, but something is definitely fishy about all of this.
>>77540367
The question you should be asking OP is whether the murder was orchestrated for this exact purpose?
Tell me just how is canceling the referendum in any way a mark of respect?
>>77543262
But WHAT'S YOUR POINT?
>>77543469
But we can better protect ourselves as part of a larger collective union. That's an issue even people advocating for brexit are conceding. They just think it's a price worth paying. Personally, I don't think lives are worth paying to take a gamble on our economy or for the sovereignty meme.
>>77542016
Cheers Ireland, we're trying.
>>77543894
Depends on what you mean by "Protect ourselves".
If you mean the people protecting themselve - they'd be better off out as the EU cares about protecting its INTERESTS not its people.
>>77543894
WTF are you talking about shill? WW2 had how many soldiers die fighting for the 'sovereignty meme'?
Fucking retard
hey lads i'm betting on this shit
limey lads of the UK let me get your thoughts i'm doing a poll.
inb4 american memes
let's try being friends, for a change.
>>77543770
-It's respecting the wishes of the deceased
-It would be a rare sign of maturity from the British government to reject the referendum at this stage
-With such a disruption, we are not able to vote with full clarity and without prejudice or bias
This even works in favour for you brexiters because the claims of a false flag cannot be upheld if we cancel the referendum as the false flag couldn't in any way affect the referendum if it isn't even happening any more.
>>77544141
forgot pic related is the bet i'm thinking of making tomorrow if the odds don't change....
>>77543894
>sovereignty meme
Who do you think you are kidding Mr. Juncker?
>>77544141
I'm pro-leave but seriously if I was a betting man I'd go remain. As painful as it is for me to say that is they've always been ahead.
>>77544141
Give it a day- The fallout from the death of Jo Cox is the make or break of the campaign to leave.
>>77543894
I was tempted to try and discuss that with you, but you have the mind of a child.
Please make yourself familiar with how the EU works and how it affects the European economy, because we small people are seeing none of the benefits.
We are being robbed.
And safety lays in numbers does not extend to this situation.
Our people are being washed out and replaced by people who hate us.
The people that come here are not our friends not here to helps us.
You are living a lie. Good day, my child.
t. a foreigner
>>77540367
Good idea OP. Let's blame the actions of one lunatic on every single person who happens to share a singular view with him.
You like oxygen? So do muslims. You muslim.
"Cancel the referendum." Afraid of the majority having a vote, eurotrash?
>>77540367
DAILY REMINDER: The Jo Cox murder was NOT politically motivated.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtDKfd-pEGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtDKfd-pEGw
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtDKfd-pEGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtDKfd-pEGw
>>77542348
>Civilised
>Ignoring referendums
>Importing people who don't integrate
>Pushing citizens out of their homes to house rapists
>>77543894
What are afraid of? The UK is powerful.
You can live on your own. Good luck with the Saudi tho.
Your politicians will heckin sell you to the Arabs without the EU regulations.
Trust me BREXIT is brighter than you think. Just get out, then you'll see. Staying is beneficial, but do you account the thrill?
BREXIT is pure adrenaline. Go for it.
>>77544365
That would actually be a smart decision.
Because if we remain, the monetary gain would be soothing and if we leave, you'd have that to be happy about.
>>77540367
>1 person's actions can change the outcome of an entire "democratic" process
Wasn't the point of democracy and all that the men before us fought and died for, to prevent one man from having all the power?
That MP is dead, and so is democracy.
>>77543894
No-one is suggesting declaring war on Europe. We'd still be allied with them. In addition, we are the 4th largest military power on the planet. The three above us are allies. We have nothing to fear. That is the reason brexiters aren't addressing the point. Because it's a retarded point that shouldn't need to be addressed.
>>77544495
THIS
I've had the BBC on through the night and already they have been shilling this "Britain first" line.
>>77544306
>-It's respecting the wishes of the deceased - orly! and if Farrage had been shot instead?
>-It would be a rare sign of maturity from the British government to reject the referendum at this stage -and if Farrage had been shot instead?
>-With such a disruption, we are not able to vote with full clarity and without prejudice or bias - and if Farrage had been shot instead?
Bullshit!
You wouldn't be saying this if Farage had been shot instead. I'm sure brexiters in the case of Farrage being shot instead would want the referendum even more.
Fucking place is crawling with shills tonight
>>77541727
>>77540367
Oh so the leader of MP dying means that an entire nation should give up on it's future away from the EU? Guess you guys really are European
>>77544306
>-It's respecting the wishes of the deceased
top kek, put some effort into the bait
>>77544784
The Britain First shout meme is media manipulation.
Typical Labour. When will you hang those communists?
I sincerely despise them.
>>77544759
No one is suggesting that there has been that suggestion other than you, just now. Pretty good attempt at subversion though.
And military power is not an effective defence or deterrent to terrorism as we are seeing increasingly recently.
>>77544784
>>77544495
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/16/revealed-mp-killer-psychotherapy-medication-never-spoke-europe-politics/
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtDKfd-pEGw
Breitbart is the ONLY outlet reporting the truth.
The guy who allegedly initially claimed he said 'Britain First', says that NEVER happened.
Psy Ops peeps are working overtime on this
>>77541022
>"Heartless"
not an argument.jpg
>>77544828
IF IF IF IF IF IF IF
Nice argument, Obama. Has your teleprompter full of Anti EU shilling remarks broken?
>>77545092
Is SK rare? Anyway, I HARVEST.
>>77545078
Well we're going to remain to be allied though. No subversion implied. No-one is suggesting cutting all ties to Europe. They're good allies. The problem is that they presume to legislate for us - something which we don't need.
An effective deterrent to terrorism is to control borders, and to stop being told by the EU how many people we have to accept regardless of our public's opinion.
>>77545078
But letting your borders open and inviting hordes of people into your country that want blow you up, because muh dschihadd?
You are retarded beyond rescue, if you do not comprehend what the current situation means for Europe and its people.
Also good job trying to address anyone's points.
>>77544583
Staying isn't even close to beneficial.
>>77544951
It's not just media manipulation. It started from a muslim who was not even on the scene and who could not have even heard that as he was stuck in traffic. This was then tweeted by a REMAIN MP and has throughout the day been disputed and not reported by the BBC. Until the early hours where it will snowball throughout Friday. The next 24 hours will be interesting.
>>77540367
fucking anglo wanting out just to suck american cock hope you starve like the irish bitches
>>77545592
just kidding i'm bored
>>77543262
>>77542397
Its not an argument it is a false equivalence, in general violence of this kind is because of the policies forced down the throats of extant populations in this island. Im not surprised someone went crazy and rubbed out a prog Labour MP.
It would be better to limit migration simply due to this level of political violence occurring. Because it wont just come from one side.
>>77545513
Hopefully there will be massive blow-back and Murdoch papers will report the lie.
>>77545286
Only one if.
And if Farrage had been shot instead?
Instead of a poor attempt at deflection, answer the single question I asked faggot
What happened?
>>77545665
>>77545592
>>77540367
who gave that guy a gun i wonder
>>77544495
>Brexit has nothing at all to do with terrorism
kek
>>77541022
what did today's events have to do with the greater good of Britain remaining in the EU. You'd have to be an actual r
this is b8 you fag l0rd
>>77545852
And if he'd been shot instead, I would also be suggesting the referendum was at least suspended temporarily to allow for people's decision on a major change in direction of the country not to be persuaded by emotions in the heat of the moment.
>>77545886
Guy with long history of mental issues, 'obtains' a gun and shoots MP backing Leave campaign. Leave campaigners want to cancel referendum as a mark of faggotry
>>77540367
Every globalist shill will be traced and brought to justice in the long run one way or another.
Keep that in mind. Our intelligence networks span across many countries. Expect to be screened.
>>77545592
>>77545665
>>77544843
This
>>77546114
Wait, leader person dies and the ones following them don't want to carry on? Surely that person is now a martyr to rally behind?
>>77546114
The MP backed remain. The time to stop twisting facts to suit your narrative has already passed.
Jo Cox will be remembered at the same level as the White Rose Movement for her action in defending the interests of this country.
>>77544843
Sure
>>77546114
You've confused Leave and Remain buddy.
>>77546557
The pro-leave shills can't keep up with their own lies
>>77546411
She will be forgotten in a few weeks, mate.
Especially if this incident was staged, will the people responsible want to forget the public about her.
How can you be so damn basic?
You should be stripped of your citizenship and sent along with the other monkies offshore.
>>77546017
Every Brexiter would be even more determined to vote in that case.
You're obviously an immigrant cos real British people wouldn't just roll over all beta like you want to.
Real Brits still got the Blitz spirit m8
>>77546411
My bad, she was indeed a beta remainer.
>>77546707
No, I'm an Immigrant.
This faggot is just a second hand leftist with rich patents.
I want to live in a country where the work of hands and mind can sustain my life.
They don't know work.
>>77546651
Listen up pal I've been up for three nights solid doing this with a nice tidy pile of coke to keep me going. EXCUSE ME if I make a couple mistakes...
>>77547199
As long as you're working, not just on the scrounge your welcome to stay anon.
The only thing more ludicrous than cancelling an entire national referendum because one person passes away is voting to remain in the European Union.
Question Time and This Week cancelled: http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/news/a798096/question-time-and-this-week-cancelled-by-bbc-following-the-tragic-death-of-jo-cox-mp/
If you can't win the debate, then shut down the debate.
>>77547281
>Brexiter
>On coke
>Staying up for 3 nights
>Not a healthy lifestyle
What a surprise
>>77547281
>yfw
>>77540367
Is there a chance of Brexit happening? I'm really rooting for you guys.
>>77548113
What does that have to do with economy or politics?
Nice response to my previous argument btw.
>>77545393
>>77548509
A reasonable chance, yeah. But I just feel like they'll manipulate the vote.
>>77540367
So this MP was protesting supporters of the Brexit the day before she was shot with a shotgun in the head and was for open borders and wanted Britain to take in more Muslim refugees
I just hope the vote goes for exit of the EU - say no to globalism!
>>77545513
I thought it was this guy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36552367
>>77541022
If Britain wasn't in the E.U. this would never have happened.
>>77548509
I have, myself, full confidence that if all do their duty, if nothing is neglected, and if the best arrangements are made, as they are being made, we shall prove ourselves once more able to defend our island home, to ride out the storm of war, and to outlive the menace of tyranny, if necessary for years, if necessary alone.
>>77548545
>Please reply. Even when I change the subject because I can't possibly win an argument one one subject.
>>77549256
Subject isn't changed. I reiterated my original point, and then addressed yours.
>>77549256
please kill yourself. please. it would make me so happy. or are you so heartless to deny me this happiness?
>>77541022
Absolute shit tier bait. Genuinely consider suicide. This MP's death means absolutely sod all in the context of the referendum and its importance. Anyone who is swayed by this (whether towards leave or remain) is a reactive moron. The country's future is on the line, honestly fuck this MP's death, as sad as it is. The referendum result will be remembered and felt in 50 years, she won't.
>>77549110
All jokes/memes aside, I really hope you can get some help with your substance abuse, regardless of your political beliefs. We are stronger when we work together, and even if we disagree on this issue, I'm sure we have common ground in other areas.
>>77548545
>>77549315
Closed borders doesn't help with home grown terrorism. And regardless of whether you like it, virtually no one who has a say in these things is advocating 0 immigration figures. Tens of thousands seems to be the consensus for those advocating a leave and if we have tens of thousands of people coming into this country, we need to be able to chack and fully verify their backgrounds. Remaining a part of the EU will help with this.
>>77549932
It helps with home grown terrorism when they can't fuck off to Syria then return as easy as anything. And anyway, how many have died from terrorist attacks in Britain in the past decade? That issue is nowhere near as pressing as the unsustainable strain put on public services by uncontrollable immigration.
>>77549814
>THE TRUTH
>>77550199
It might not have occured to you, but not all terrorists come from Syria. There is, of course, a very real security threat from Syria and this needs to be a ddressed with EU cooperation to ensure only genuine refugees are allowed entry and those commiting sex attacks or inciting hatred are removed.
But clouding three completely seperate issues, namely the deaths of british citizens in terror attacks, economic migrants and the plight of refugees and asylum seekers is not really helping to set out a clear case for leaving the EU.
>>77543116
How do you get this flag?
>>77550783
Shilling for the EU
>>77550742
>acts of violence by migrants, economic migrants and political migrants are three "completely separate issues"
They all revolve around immigration. They are not completely separate, they are closely intertwined.
>>77550742
Alternatively, we cut out the middle man and leave the EU, control our own borders and check refugees on our terms, because clearly the EU is failing to do so.
My point was that the number of British citizens dying from domestic terrorism is so minuscule that while it does matter, there are FAR more pressing issues which affect FAR greater numbers of people. Namely the housing crisis (and homelessness), the struggle to keep building schools to match the birth rate, the enormous strain on finances and waiting times in the NHS, and cultural tensions due to poor integration. Extremists will attack us whether we leave or remain, and our national intelligence will not be damaged by leaving because EU states will want to share theirs to gain ours.
>>77541022
>let's do away with the politics and all just vote Remain
Either you're retarded or on Cameron's payroll. Which is it?
>>77549932
Use not abuse.
Thank you for your concern, but I must correct you on your misconception. I am using, not abusing a substance. My ability to work is not adversely affected nor any other part of my life nor any relationship is being harmed in any way by my intermittent insufflation routine.
You are right in what you say about working together, let's just forget our differences and Make Britain Great Again by leaving the tyranny of the EU behind and encourage other countries to do the same. Our goal together will be freedom not slavery.
>>77551067
No. You're either missing the point or trying to misrepresent me. The three seperate issues he discussed were;
>economic migrants and the strain they place on public services
>Asylum seekers/refugees
>The loss of British lives from terrorist attacks
By throwing those points together and attempting to cloud the issue by implying correlation or causation it's not helping to set out a clear case for leaving the EU.
>>77551304
>They will want to share theirs to gain ours
When leave advocates use this argument, they always seem to forget another one that they make about the EU being too bureaucratic and the amount of regulations that are in place. One such example would be the sharing of information from an EU institution to a third party country. There will not be a clear process in place for this and if we vote to leave, I would be surprised that a union that would be damaged by our leaving them would be inclined to be forthright with helping with our security measures.
>>77551781
>it's not helping to set out a clear case for leaving the EU.
Quite the opposite, in my opinion. I feel like you are trying to jumble our points into as incoherent a mess as you can despite the fact we have clearly outlined mass immigration as the root of all of these issues. And anyway, politics are complex, I'm not sure why you are so desperate for soundbite reasons to leave when the reasons are clearly interwoven and more complicated than that, as the Canadian anon pointed out.
As for sharing intelligence, of course they will go behind our backs, as I'm sure we will theirs. Ultimately European nations are allies though, and are dependent on the central intelligence body of the world, or at least of the west, the US. Going behind our backs almost certainly includes going behind the backs of the U.S. too, as the U.S. already share intelligence with us outside of political contracts. I'd much rather America than the EU in that respect, thanks.
>>77551781
>By throwing those points together and attempting to cloud the issue by implying correlation or causation it's not helping to set out a clear case for leaving the EU.
The way I see it is that two of those problems, terror attacks and refugees are quite easily solved by ceasing to create fucking wars in the middle east.
The economic migrant crisis is easily solved by leaving the EU and issuing a large number of deportation notices.
>>77552754
The people you want intelligence on, these Syrians coming through Europe you want to get that intelligence from the USA? The Syrians that are approaching the EU, travelling through the EU, wanting to settle in the EU and the terrorists looking to hide in the EU to plan attacks? You want to ask the USA who they are and what threat level they are?
I know I'm being a little simplistic with that rhetoric and there is a point that intelligence should be sought and shared with the USA, but this is predominantly a European issue and an issue for European intelligence.
>>77553336
Oh I see, you specifically meant the Syrian refugees. Okay, I was giving a more broad point about global intelligence post-Brexit. I'll address your point then. As far as checking Syrians and other refugees is concerned, for what reason would the EU willingly deny us vital security intelligence in that regard? Unless you are implying they would suddenly side with ISIS behind our backs, I fail to see why they would deny us information we could do with seeing about potential immigrants from the EU. Imagine if they knowingly allowed terror suspects into the U.K. and an attack was carried out. The EU aren't that stupid.
>>77553336
You really think the european intelligence agencies will stop working with each other because of a Brexit..? Not on your nelly son!
We need to be working much more closely with the Russians on (((islamic terrorism))). It's the fucking americans that are to blame for setting the middle east alight in the first place.
>>77540367
Actually you need to stay in because if you leave we can't trust that your shit government won't start another World War
You've done it several times before and if experience is to be a marker or judgement of a nation, you will cause a war that will see someone suffer for your own personal gain and it wall fall upon others to fix it like always.
You have plenty of reason to leave but the world would be much safer without you cunts trodding around again, same with France
>>77553987
We're equally to blame for the mess to be fair.
>>77553336
How many fucking shekels have you made so far tonight you filthy fucking kike? Don't you have some foreskin to suck on, shlomo?
>>77554152
>>77554995
Both puppets who sadly will never rot in a prison cell
