Why is this board so pro-Brexit? Here I will attempt to make you understand why I am voting to remain.
We need immigrants to do the jobs we don't want to do. Huge cliché, but true. Frankly I'd rather import some Poles or other Eastern Euros (who are white) than some Muslim/Somalian welfare leech who has 40 kids and stays in the country permanently.
Another reason is the economic insecurity. The value of your house and shares will fall, and the City of London, the biggest financial centre in Europe, could be at risk, which is where most of the good jobs in the country are.
Don't vote Brexit guys, you're replacing Poles with Somalis and Pajeets.
>>77519894
>>77519894
vardy would definitely vote leave
you dishonour him
>>77519894
>We need immigrants to do the jobs we don't want to do
Stopped reading there. Fuck off kike.
I with thinking the exact same thing OP. We need to discuss this.
>>77519894
EU is a globalist plot to enslave all nations.
>>77520169
Oh.
Fuck off OP
sage
>>77520246
Kim backs brexit
>>77520169
But it's true, Mamadou. No English person wants to pick up litter or do manual labour. This board doesn't have any solutions for this problem. For the time being, importing based Poles is much better than les noirs.
>>77519894
>implying that brexiters are capable of higher skilled work.
Nice.
>>77520246
DPRK understands. Keep up the fight against Rothschild Jyung!
>>77519894
>We need immigrants to do the jobs we don't want to do. Huge cliché, but true
People don't want to work in these jobs because the pay is SHIT, and it is shit because there are immigrants that will work for that shitty pay. Why a brit should work as a waiter in a shitty restaurant for almost nothing?
>>77519894
Good little goyim, I'm sure the EU parliament will give you all the Poles you want when they take full control.
>>77520437
This country is full of bankers and lawyers and no blue-collar workers. In the words of Joe Keller: "You stand on the street and spit, you're going to hit a college man"
>>77519894
I want the value of houses to fall so I can actually buy one some day, you selfish cunt.
>>77520517
Le jew boogeyman, jews aren't the cause of all our problems, the cause is women's voting
>>77520783
Kike derected. Leave the thread, guys.
Sage
U kike
>>77520862
detected*
>>77520616
>implying bankers and lawyers count as higher skilled work.
Nice.
I don't know any of my fellow math or physicsfags that are voting leave. Just because mathematically it's a bad choice.
Also, we lose a load of [access to] R&D facilities if we leave...
>>77519894
Vardy looks like such a hard cunt. Is that a can of chewing tobacco in his hand?
>>77520862
Jews are of course a problem but I would argue that women's voting is a bigger problem
>>77520344
REEEEEEE
WHITE PEOPLE DONT DO THOSE JOBS BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE TO
IF YOU REMOVE SHITSKINS FROM THESE JOBS THEN WHITES WILL MOVE BACK INTO THEM
>>77520983
Bankers and lawyers are the epitome of high-skilled work if you exclude STEM autism
>>77519894
>security
The EU is a stagnant shitfest.
They're not going to let the UK leave anyhow. If the leave vote wins they'll simply invalidate it.
>>77521056
Problems:
Jews
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Powergap
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women voting
shitskins/crime/etc etc etc
>>77520983
>leisure class parasite
>vote stay
Don't want to lose that EU funding, huh?
>>77519894
Under the current system, you have no control over who comes to the country. Shit tier romanian gypsies are as bad as pajeets and somalians.
I understnad that Poles are better than Somalis. Brexit only means you get to decide that explicitly, rather than depend on who remains with EU and who gets to join it.
This is not even considering turkroaches getting free movement across EU in exchange for housing refugees. Once they join you will be infested like us.
Do not make that mistake. Take control, and you can selectively import only a small number of immigrants who you need to clean toilets, and keep the others out.
This is not about economy it's about sovereignty, under the EU we all lose our nations.
>>77520278
Found the somalian Pajeet
>>77520246
What's your opinion on the Rothschild's?
>>77520344
>No English person wants to pick up litter or do manual work.
It sure sounds to me as if you've asked every single English person. I'm positive there's hundreds, if not thousands of English that would love ANY employment opportunity but your head is so far down the sound you refuse to even acknowledge this possibility.
I'm positive you're some posh rich wanker whose surrounded by ethnic Britons and the children of the top 1% of the 1% of the minorities that have actually integrated well and you assume they're all like that. Besides, Britain can make its own laws to allow European immigrants to come in, the UK doesn't need the eu for any of this.
>>77521542
This country is cucked, I don't trust a British government to put Poles at higher priority than Somalis because that would be >muh discrimination. I agree that Turkey needs to fuck off, but Greece has a veto in the EU so I don't see how they could ever join. And the number of Romanian gypsies isn't really significant outside of Big Issue vendors.
>>77521160
fucking lel. nice meme.
>>77521486
Fuck no.
Already made leeway with hella fresh magrail research.
>tfw only nation interested in technoligcal progression is Japan.
>tfw I won't move there because I'm not a weeb desu.
>>77519894
and what stops your country from hiring...
say...
british workers?
>>77519894
>We need immigrants to do the jobs we don't want to do.
So you don't want to fuck your wife?
>>77519894
>just let me be cucked like the Rothschilds want
>>77519894
are EU citizens who identify as British suffering from a mental illness?
Can't serve two masters.
>>77519894
>We need immigrants to do the jobs we don't want to do
Jesus christ what a horrifying argument.
Looking at it from a purely privileged middle class view. Because you personally could never consider doing that sort of job, you imagine that everyone else would rather have immigrants do it too.
I work in The City of London and so many of us support Brexit its not even funny.
>>77520344
If a man will not work, neither shall he eat.
Stop welfare.
>>77520344
You're talking utter fucking bollocks. Its as if you've never seen the working class cleaning ladies, dinner ladies, binmen, street sweepers of the UK. And you know what, they peddle this shit all over Europe and every damn white country, funny how every single person with white skin is too lazy and simply must tolerate mass immigration. Fuck off.
Freedom from Brit politicians shifting the blame to the EU for any issues. Prevents the U.S. from having a "guy" in the EU. Basically opens the possibility of a new UK for future generations. Lefties will probably fuck it up though.
>>77519894
You're a lying piece of shit. The EU is the only stagnant block. It's an undemocratic monster in the vein of the EUSSR constantly trying to cut down on free speech, democratic procresses and currently is taking away the option of countries to leave.
If the UK leaves it gets back its decision making power on whom to admit and whom not. You're getting your quota of rapefugees currently anyway, as the EU just pushes them onto you and while you in theory have border controls and admission restrictions the vast mayority of them aren't being applied. Leaving the EU would allow the UK to reinstitute and actually enforce them barring said welfare leeches from entering much less profiteering off the country. Something that inside the EU is unavoidable and ongoing.
The claim for "needing migrants" is another untrue one. Most people would be willing to do these jobs, if they were paid properly. Which they currently AREN'T. Low skilled low educated migrants aren't needed, never where. It's a long running meme used to dump wages by huge margins across the board. This only benefits rich companies, real estate moguls and a bunch of other questionable people while not having any kind of advantage for the normal average citizen.
Hey if that mentally ill guy can build a gun, so can you. Do so and fucking shoot yourself you piece of shit.
>>77519894
Let me fix that naïve view on migration of yours with the prospects that will come within 10 years: A lot of mundane jobs will be automated. And what will you do with all those immigrants if they won't find a proper job thanks to that automation?
Having said that, a Brexit will likely economically damage both the UK and the EU for the first years. Have a read: https://www.global-counsel.co.uk/sites/default/files/special-reports/downloads/Global%20Counsel_Impact_of_Brexit.pdf
>EU IS ONLY WHITE IMMIGRATION GUYS!!!
Yeah and I'm positively shaking for the million Turkroaches coming in the next few years.
>>77519894
>We need immigrants to do the jobs we don't want to do.
stopped reading there
>>77521850
Britain could make its own law to allow European immigrants to come in, but do you honestly think it would?
I don't know any minorities because I live in West London, but I know they're savages. And frankly the EU would limit the number of shitskins by giving preferential treatment to white Euros. And I have never met an English rubbish picker. My father used to work in agriculture and he told me how he had to employ Italians on the farm because despite raising wages to unaffordable levels no Englishman wanted to do such shit labour. These jobs must be filled, and preferably by white Europeans. We even have difficulty getting English bus drivers here in London, people are so rich. Even the working class have houses and benefits.
EU is kike NWO project, of course we are against it
>>77522124
t. broker
The hedgefund managers are pissing on you from the top floor.
>>77521886
>I don't trust my own elected governments so I'm going to give control to anti whites in Brussels instead!
>>77521886
You forget that your country already has a lot of immigrants. You really think you need more than presently for cleaning toilets? There are plenty of pajeets and poles to do that right now.
You stay in and you lose all your sovereignty. Even if in the future the country were leaning more right, you will have no power because EU will fuck you over.
Brexit is not about immigration, it is about the right to have that debate later. This means you are fairly cucked right now, but to completely remove the possibility to become uncucked in the future is to just pull the trigger on the legacy of the Eternal Anglo.
As for Greece, it is only a matter of priorities. If they stop paying debts, which is quite likely sometime in the future, it is easy to kick them out. They represent no benefit to the EU, while Turkey can easily negotiate for free movement at least, if not membership, based on refugee extortion.
>>77522521
So you trust Labour or the cuckservatives to prioritise white people? Can you imagine the headlines? This would never happen.
>>77520344
first let there be a shortage, then let the wages rise to pre-migration levels, then watch as thousands of brits want those jobs
>>77522616
Despite /pol/ memery, we really don't have that many immigrants compared to many countries. We need to fill up the shit jobs. And pajeets don't clean toilets, they go into STEM because they're autists.
>>77522237
Welfare doesn't even benefit the average European person. It's mostly wealth redistribution to subsidize massive immigration, because said immigration benefits huge corporations who get new buyers who spend money which otherwise would've invested in such silly things as infrastructure and education aswell as allowing them to dump wages, it benefits leftists who are importing votes for themselves and manage to remain in power this way, it benefits people who can profit off the housing shortage and so on and on.
It's destroying these countries by giving foreigners, especially low IQ ones access to the resource of the host nation and allowing them to bleed it dry so a few can get rich off it and fuel their power grabs. Meanwhile you outright drive people to have fewer and fewer children as they simply can't afford them, aren't certain whether they could guarantee them a proper upbringing and future, aswell as are in general being discouraged from doing so all while breeding a huge number of bottom feeders increasingly dragging society to the abyss.
>>77519894
>Why is this board so pro-Brexit?
>>77522741
>before the EU, there was no labour shortage
Wew lad, we literally kept Italian prisoners of war in the country to fill up shit labour
>>77521886
>This country is cucked
>Let's vote for a further left, outright communist, unelected, power hungry, foreign cabal that doesn't give two shits about anyone in the EU and only wants to increasingly seize power over all of us and are actively bringing in shitskins to help them rig votes and cause unrest and who completely underestimates what they're unleashing and will likely be destroyed by the monsters they've called.
Yeah, sounds reasonable. Fuck off leftist scum.
>>77519894
>We need immigrants
Stopped reading, fuck off shill.
>>77522887
are there any BBC comedies about Italians doing shit jobs in Britain?
>>77523097
Why are anti-EU people across Europe relying on us to Brexit? Get your own referendum, cucks
>>77519894
KYS.
>>77522764
Then market forces will drive the economics. The pay for the shit cleaning jobs will increase, and there will be demand met by those who want to earn money.
It literally is autistic to pass on power to someone else for a non issue and get utterly cucked on every major issue for eternity.
>leaving the EU so we can import more poo in loos and niggers
Never understood it really. In fact, non-EU immigration is almost on par with EU immigration atm despite the fact that we have full control over it.
Surely if we had a surplus of unskilled labour we wouldnt willfully continue to import thousands every year from shitskin countries?
Feels like we're trying to escape one globalist Jew just to fall into the arms of another. Bojo was one of the more pro-immigration Tories before he started fronting for the Leave campaign. He's pretty much just been running the most thinly veiled "covert" leadership campaign in political history. And if you hadn't noticed that then you really haven't been paying attention.
>>77519894
Brits used to do those jobs before mass immigration, and we can do so again. The economy will recover. But if we remain we will never regain our sovereignty.
>>77523270
The business owners won't be able to pay for the shit jobs and they'll go out of business, this is why France and Spain went kaput
>>77522352
How long did the photographer have to wait to get a woman and child in the picture?
>>77522624
Both parties are currently effectively run from Brussels. So it doesn't matter what they do for the most part, they all know it and most just clamour to try and appeal to Brussels as much as possible to secure their own future seats once their local political career is over. Brexit would fundamentally change this.
Meanwhile, you are basically telling people it would be reasonable to pick the bubonic plague over a cough. Guess what, both might kill you but one is goddamn more likely to do so and do vastly more damage in the process.
>>77522764
Nice try. Anyone with half a brain knows the percentages of shitkins and other trash in Europe and the UK. They just seized power in London and they're only getting started. Telling people this isn't happening, especially on pol makes you come off as really desperate.
And no, they're going into STEM because they're heavily subsidized over local researchers. They're pretty much being PAID to colonize these fields and employers get grants for hiring them over locals. The only autist here is you.
>>77523382
>what is development
We're not the same country we were. People are richer now, working class people can now afford to reject jobs they don't want to do partly due to the benefits system but also better jobs being available.
In a country where 40% of people go to university, where will you magically find people to do dead-end shitty jobs?
>>77521886
>This country is cucked, I don't trust a British government
So you want to be cucked by the EU vulgo Germany? I seriously doubt that England fought two world wars to end up under the german heel. Don't be such a pathetic fuck and go govern yourself. We will have excellent trading relations and easy access to each others countries after Brexit.
Don't believe all the fear mongering. Schäuble is just an EU fanatic (as most Germans). He doesn't want to see his post-war creation sink into oblivion.
>the jobs we don't want to do
The jobs YOU don't want to do.
Who does these same jobs in low-immigrant areas? British people.
Who are priced out of the market by Poles who sleep on the floor of a kitchen in a 2 bedroom flat with 30 others so have no outgoing, apart from Western Union fees of converting thier pounds to zlotys to send back home?
Locals with the same skill set
>>77522352
>>77523513
>photographer makes sure to get woman and child at the front of the picture
>Moshe Shekelstien tells the photographer
>hopefully the goyim will not notice all the men in the background
>>77523432
Spain has 30% youth unemployment. Youth there want any job they can do and still cant find anything to do.
The shit jobs are all done by low wage pakis and somalis who are employed en masse by small business owners.
Small business can easily be given a fillip by the government, and they will do so because they represent a large voting populace. A simple tax break will pay for the pay hike for shit jobs.
France is kaput because it is filled to the brim with Algerians and Arabs, and is regularly cucked by the unions.
>>77519894
>>>77521850
>Britain could make its own law to allow European immigrants to come in, but do you honestly think it would?
They're your politicians you fucking brit. If they won't make these European immigration laws (they will), vote in someone who will. Hold your politicians accountable.
>I don't know any minorities because I live in West London, but I know they're savages. And frankly the EU would limit the number of shitskins by giving preferential treatment to white Euros.
White euros don't move en masse, bring in multiple wives with tens of children, and their plainly barbaric customs with them in massive scales but you know who does? The millions of new Turkish gaining admission to travel into Europe visa-free, and """refugees""" given the right papers in another eu country.
And I have never met an English rubbish picker. My father used to work in agriculture and he told me how he had to employ Italians on the farm because despite raising wages to unaffordable levels no Englishman wanted to do such shit labour. These jobs must be filled, and preferably by white Europeans. We even have difficulty getting English bus drivers here in London, people are so rich. Even the working class have houses and benefits.
I think you're detached from reality m8, these are such bold assumptions I can almost guarantee you are wrong.
>>77523699
Yes but the parties are voted in, and British people would unfortunately never vote for an explicitly racist agenda.
Pajeet goes into STEM because his dad doesn't have much money and wants to pay for a course that guarantees a decent pay. And the mayor of London is a symbolic position, he has no real power. The right-wing media make stories seem worse than they are to stir up anti-immigration feelings. Don't get me wrong, I want people to be hostile to immigrants, but the stories are mostly exaggerations to get Britain First types angry.
>>77523244
Because nobody else gets to vote, Ireland voted, then was forced to vote again on the Lisbon treaties to get "the right answer". Netherlands voted against the Ukraine deal, they ignored it. Nobody else is given any say nor vote because they rather not run that risk.
You know that perfectly fine, which is exactly why you're here you piece of shit.
>>77523432
If a business can't keep itself afloat without massive government subsidization and artificial wage dumping then it deserves to go bankrupt. "But the jerrrrbs!", jobs according to you nobody would want to do anyway. So somehow this is a really self defeating argument.
If nobody wants to do these jobs because they aren't viable in terms of pay to make a living, if said business isn't actually profitable without massive government subsidization and thus doesn't contribute to the economy and neither do the jobs but both of them are active drains and if atop of all of that you need to fly in shitskins to do them according to you. Why even have them in the first place?
"But we need them!" How so? They're a net minus all around and nobody wants do to them according to you. If it's in the farming industry you can import most of these goods and because of how cheaply you can do it it's not profitable to produce anyway.
>>77523244
Momentum. Once the first domino falls, it will be easier to rally support for other countries to leave.
>>77523758
>in british areas british people do shitty jobs
No they don't. Even in countryside rural communities Poles need to be imported to do shitty agricultural work- see Boston and Skegness.
>>77524104
>trying to save the white race from being genocided is now racist
The jews have done quite the number on you
>>77519894
vardy should be playing in the team on the regular
not some nigger like sterling
>>77523708
You do realize you still have a significant portion of society which does not actually attend society and could be counted as working class. A portion which is needed less and less because of technological developement and automatization. Something that is about to ESCALATE destroying many of these jobs anyway and putting millions out of work.
Which will in short order create the new problem of what to do with people. As not everyone can go into STEM and even if everyone would be capable there's nowhere near enough jobs to go around. Which makes bringing in pajeets and others on government subsidization absolute insanity. Obviously this doesn't bother leftists.
Which is why every single last central planned economy has failed so horrifically and that's the exact thing you people are trying to etablish here.
>>77524217
>business owners and other workers should lose their jobs because no one wants to do the shitty jobs for them
This kills the country.
>>77523974
I can't tell how delusional you are. The British people wouldn't vote in a blatant racist, just as in basically every country.
>>77523803
Spain has 30% youth unemployment because of socialism
>>77519894
>We need immigrants
stopped reading the shill
>>77524328
Obviously I want an all-white Britain, but anyone who thinks that the UK public could be persuaded to vote for that is delusional.
>>77522465
Actually I test the systems that allow you and your employer to pay into your pension.
Cunt.
If you remain the attacks will continue, vote brexit to stop the violence.
>>77524104
> unfortunately ... explicitly racist agenda
You're kinda giving yourself away here. You are implying you'd find that bad in an effort to cozy up and blend in. Calling it explicitly racist as if that is an etablished and accepted narrative rather than just the reflexive lefist argument to kill any kind of line of thought they dislike shows you don't actually do so.
None of this is racist, it's reasonable. It's something that everywhere outside the Western world is completely common and accepted. Racism isn't much more than a way to circumvent people's self defense mechanisms and self interested by shaming and bullying them into submission.
No, Pajeets go into STEM because they are heavily subsidized making them cheaper and more affordable for companies to hire as the government and various other programs are paying part of their wage or they are outright allowed to be paid at lower rates/the company is given tax breaks for hiring them. Which allows them to pretty much import them from India scooping off their top few percentages, then later dumping the regression to the mean second and third generation on the tax payers all while destroying the local economy and jobs.
Pretending he has no real power, when he's already busy bringing about islamic modesty laws in a circumvent way is quite ridiculous. Especially since you lost his position for good, they've taken it and they'll lock it damn well down as they know they can and will in the future control it.
Seriously going "right wing media" when it's quite well etablished there is pretty much no right wing media is so much leftist newsspeak I'm not sure whether you're doing your cause any good by being around here. The leftist/liberal bias of the media is well known and documented.
And no, you don't want people to be hostile to immigrants, you're a leftist who's trying to desinform and demoralize aswell as spread outright lies. Your whole rhetoric gives you away.
>>77519894
>Why is this board so pro-Brexit?
The reason is simply explained. This board is made up of common people, folks who are the salt of the earth, the kinds of people whose lives are chewed up and spit out by collusion between the worlds wealthiest individuals and the worlds wealthiest corporations (which includes corporate banks) and the worlds most powerful governments. That unholy trinity is more commonly known as "the establishment".
A vote for Brexit is a vote against the globalist establishment.
>>77524548
A country doesn't run out of jobs if you let the free-market operate. See America, which sustained tens of millions of white immigrants.
The working-class is a bit of a meme. People such as elctricians/builders are included in it who can actually work. A large part of it are alos lazy people on benefits. Out of the 14% who are technically working class, maybe about 8% could be persuaded to do jobs. And no-one could be persuaded to live like Poles do in London. They literally have shifts on who's using the beds. A working-class person can't live a humane life in London, but Poles are willing to live like they do.
>>77524604
>This kills the country
Not it does not. Nice try at deflecting though. You're attempting not to give an in depth answer instead opting for the fear mongering you're accusing others of engaging in.
You have jobs which are unprofitable and thus don't pay, carried out by corporations which are effectively bankrupt and need to rely on government subsidization and tax payer money to stay in business, whom according to you nobody would want to do anyway and thus the country needs to import people who are a net loss to do them.
You basically have an equation where every single last factor is a huge negative and all of it is pretty much paid for by the tax payer.
Sage and report shill threads.
>>77524675
Should've read more. His rethoric and some basic assumptions such as certain ideas and policies being obviously racist kinda give him away. He's trying really hard but his leftist ideology and convictions are showing through everywhere.
>>77525387
They write those "Sharia in the UK" articles because morons believe it. Muslims need to be deported but this shit isn't actually happening.
You sound delusional. You're saying Indians go into STEM because of EU funding. They just want to make money and they see easy money for those who study STEM.
Look, I would vote for a racist party, I have voted BNP in the past. But there's a reason the BNP have never won a seat in an election. It's because most people don't like them. I don't approve of "muh racism" whenever someone hurts your feelings, but it's a good argument as it works on a large part of the population.
>>77523699
You know the government in the UK can just ignore the referendum too right? The UK referendum isn't legally binding on the Parliament. If it is a vote to leave then the house of commons still has to get a majority to vote to repeal the European Communities Act 1972 first of all and then even more majorities to vote to repeal further legislation from UK law if that is included and we will still have tons of stuff that people who are pro-Brexit hate like EU regulations to meet and Human Rights laws to abide by which have nothing to do with EU membership.
>>77525400
Le free market meme. You can't have a free market and movement of people when heavily subsidizing corporations and people aswell as having a welfare state. They're anathema to one another.
The free market is something you people have co-opted because it appeals to neo-cons and you can pretend this is what they wanted all along while ignoring that it's very much not.
If these jobs are that shit tier, they're going to vanish. Because they were unprofitable all along. You will likely see a more efficient system that manages to do the same work with fewer employes but more efficiently. Then again, the vast mayority of these jobs are going to be lost in the near future anyway.
>>77519894
UK is already getting somalis and pajeets outside the EU backdoor. With the EU, they'll just be getting more syrians and arabs who are taking the german route.
Nige and gang only mention 'Poles' because they don't want to sound racist. What they actually mean is swedish niggers and arabs krauts. Polacks are a necessary scapegoat.
>>77525829
Europe isn't full of racists. Even UKIP, which is pretty moderate by /pol/ standards, struggle to win much here because people can just pull the racism card. Even in Austria, when the choice was between a literal socialist and a nationalist, they still voted for the socialist. As much as you can live in your delusional Fourth Reich dream world, most Western Europeans would describe themselves as "anti-racist".
>>77525688
When a government is too lazy to save a few companies from going out of business, the country fails. This is why countries bail out banks despite leftist's protests.
>>77519894
>no career job
>no house
>fuck London
I have nothing to lose and everything to gain tbqh famicom
>>77519894
>We need immigrants to do the jobs we don't want to do. Huge cliché, but true.
Complete myth perpetuated by business owners benefiting from cheap labor. All those jobs were always done long before open doors happened the only difference is pay was fair, over time existed and wasn't just standard rate so people could make a life for themselves. You can't expect brits to be motivated to work when they are earning less for the same job than before and can't afford fuck all in life with it either mean whilst Poles have massive motivation as they can share 6 to a flat and save boat loads of money to setup shop back home.
>>77526476
You sound like a commie. Business people aren't evil pigs in suits, they're people who make money when their business makes profits. When they make more money, the country prospers. Brits are making money like this because they are in management positions in businesses while they can just import poor people to do the jobs at the bottom end of the scale.
>>77525387
>Pretending he has no real power, when he's already busy bringing about islamic modesty laws in a circumvent way is quite ridiculous.
This is complete bullshit and whenever anyone brings it up in a serious way it completely discredits them as someone who just swallows anything the read in right wing media outlets unquestioningly. These Sharia courts have the equivalent say as any normal arbitrator, people go to them by choice and accept their judgements by choice and agreement, nobody has to go to them or accept their judgements and they are not legally binding.
>>77526204
>You can't have a free market and movement of people when heavily subsidizing corporations and people aswell as having a welfare state.
A free market isn't something you either have or you don't have. This is a spectrum not a binary thing some markets are freer than others but all lie somewhere along the scale of free to centrally planned entirely, there are no truly free markets though and there never can be. It is just an economic ideal in a theoretical model. The free market isn't something anyone has co-opted it is the same concept that everyone who is economically conservative strives for the real difference is in social views not economics here. You find some of the consequences of going for a free market socially intolerable where as others are more socially liberal.
>>77525919
>You sound delusional..
You're not even trying anymore. I know you can't argue properly but man, come on you started out at least remotely believable. This isn't about the Indians motivations nor any of the other groups, in most cases their motivations are very much obvious and quite well documented.
It's about why they're being hired, especially over locals. Why they're so damn cheap to hire, as companies are outright paid to do so in the current system.
And no, you have never voted BNP. You're a labour type if not worse. If you're even british that is.
>>77525930
Here's the thing, it's a step in the right direction. It's going to send the EU reeling. Most of the regulations aren't binding anymore, only if you want to engage with the EU which given the trading that is happening isn't even that sensible. You also aren't bound to follow their regulations anymore where non EU countries are concerned.
If the Brexit vote passes, it might kill off the malignant growth that is the EU. The EU is stagnating already, it's wrecked by inner turmoil and far more unstable than people seem to realize. There's a reason the EU autocrats are pushing for an European army to enforce the EU if needed at gun point and desperately try to seize power from local governments once and for all.
It's the last realistic chance Europe has to rid itself of the EUSSR without massive bloodshed, collapse and strife worse than the collapse of the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact.
>>77526693
>treating people as commodities
business owners aren't evil pigs, maybe, but you sure sound like one
>>77526822
The thing is just losing membership doesn't necessarily mean we will lose any of the rules. All of the law that have been incorporated directly into law would have to be repealed by Parliament and those will be debated in Parliament before anything happens. So you might very well end up with very little changing in the practical sense beyond losing the actual membership.
>>77526693
>When they make more money, the country prospers.
Tell that to BHS staff.
Making profit in and of itself isn't necessarily a win.
>>77526822
Now you're resorting to ad hominems, man. You're being delusional. I'm not a labour voter and I voted BNP in the Euro elections and even when they put up a spic as their candidate, you sound exasperated. But now, past your bullshit allegations.
They're not being hired over locals, they're aren't locals doing these subjects. The education secretary made a speech a few weeks ago where she basically said how English and history should be considered less important than STEM, because not enough British people do the jobs.
>>77520344
Do you not have Teenagers in Britain, no college students who need summer jobs. Not a single retard in the entire British Isles?
>>77527303
Don't blame all business owners for that, he was a kike
>We need to import people who we can pay less than locals
FTFY.
>>77527359
Retards get paid by the government for being retarded. College/University students/teens work in supermarkets or retail not doing horrible disgusting physical jobs.
>>77520344
Funny, they had no problem doing it for hundreds of years.
They'd have no problem doing it now if it actually paid.
>>77527359
College students become baristas and work at media start ups, they don't do shit agricultural labour. And retards are put in care homes. Teenagers have been consistently encouraged (I disagree with this policy, I think they should learn trades) to put aside jobs to pursue education and then get a white-collar job.
>>77526317
Okay listen up you communist wannabe. Stop pretending the etablished narrative is that the people whom you are pretending to be part of but really really hate and what they stand for is inherently racist rather than reasonable and common practice, pretty much everywhere else.
I'm not going to buy into it and neither are any other posters very likely to do so. You are desperately trying to pin it on people so you can disregard them as "muh tolerance". Fuck you. Austria is another can of worms entirely, where when one comes down to given the numbers of migrants in the population with voting rights, they managed to fundamentally steal the election through fostered demographic change. It's not an argument in favour of your side, it's showing that the mayority of Austrians very much had had enough.
>When a government is too lazy
Anathema to free market. This has been done and tried in the past already. Bailing out the banks did not benefit the countries themselves nor the people. It wasn't done because it was of advantage to them. It was done because a lot of rich people and other scum had their money in them and effectively dumped their fuck up upon the general population.
>>77526774
I wasn't even talking about Shariah courts, their sheer existence already is an obscenity and shouldn't be tolerated as they're assuming power they simply can't be allowed to hold but about the laws your friendly new mayor is currently drawing up.
And no, this doesn't discredit people. We're not on plebbit where through Orwellian censorship and newspeach you get to dictate what is allowed and what not. Trying to do so makes you come off as ridiculous.
>Some free markets are freer than others
Well this gave me a good laugh. You're now unintentionally playing Animal Farm with us. The rest isn't really worth commenting on, typical attempt at redefining, moving the goalpost and justifying incoherend and contradictions in your terrible argumentation.
>>77519894
> We need immigrants
>>77519894
KILL YOURSELF JEW
>>77527650
Since those years, we have industrialised and deindustrialised. "They", who did those jobs, are now dead or retired. There aren't millions of poor rural people willing to do shit like this any more, in fact less than 2% of people even live in the countryside.
>>77519894
>the ol' we need immigrants to the jobs our countrymen won't do
No, OP. You need immigrants to take the pay your countrymen won't take for doing their jobs, thereby degrading average income for anyone who actually works in the first place.
>>77519894
">Before the immigrants came Britan had filthy toilets"
">Before the immigrants came we sheltered under tarps"
">Before immigrants Britan had empty factorys and our bins were never emptied"
The British did the jobs before, we did them better and we were better compensated.
That is why they love immigrants and i dont.
This is why i'm voting leave (if they let me)
>>77519894
Well, if that's a can of snus in his hand I can see why he'd want to get out of the EU.
>>77527531
You know, that makes everyone in the country better off except the people that lose their jobs. Just the people that lose their jobs complain a lot more because it affects them a big amount but everyone else only gets a little better off.
>>77527724
>their sheer existence already is an obscenity and shouldn't be tolerated as they're assuming power they simply can't be allowed to hold
We have Protestant and Catholic and Secular abitration courts too you know?
>Well this gave me a good laugh. You're now unintentionally playing Animal Farm with us.
No really I'm not. It is simple there is a spectrum of levels of economic freedoms running from a completely free market which is impossible (there will always be things like transaction costs and imperfect information, market failures) down to completely centrally planned also impossible as economics is just too complex. Adding in things like welfare and subsidies moves you further away from a free market and closer to centrally planned. Markets are not either free or not. There are degrees of freedom. Holy shit. There is nothing incoherent about that just think of a 2 dimensional axis it is a really simple concept. There are even indices that attempt to measure economic freedoms. The key difference here is some people are willing to accept the social consequences of moving towards economic freedom where as others are not.
>>77520246
Thank you Kim. If anyone here knew how to enslave people, it would be you,
>>77527724
The Shariah courts are a meme. And the fact that you are taking the token position of London mayor, which has literally only existed for about 12 years, to mean some huge political shift shows your lack of knowledge. Anyway, it's your country where holocaust denial and Mein Kampf are banned, not ours.
The established narrative has been established because people have consistently voted for it, despite your denial. Labour and Conservatives are the two parties that win here, and that's because UK people vote for them, not because the EU has selected them. Election trends have shown us that people don't vote for white supremacy, or any race-based policy for that matter.
>>77527332
Calling someone delusional, racist and a bunch of other things are ad hominems in themselves. You using them all throughout our discussion aswell as right after making such an accusations makes it appear as if you don't really know what ad hominem means. You might want to look it up.
My allegations aren't bullshit, we both know it. You're like the greek shouting up to me who is standing on the wall to let you in, telling me the horse you brought as a gift is totally legit.
The second part is just you reitterating the same junk over and over again, hoping to bring about truth by repetition or wear your opponent down. Not going to happen. Btw we've now moved from "not doing the jobs" in low paid, to supposedly nobody doing the job in STEM. The second one being a huge and tremendous lie. There are locals doing all of these subjects, the same as they're doing IT and other things. There's a similar developement in the USA at this point.
Through tax breaks and various other incentives it's cheaper and more beneficial to for these corporations to import labour rather than hire locally. This is IT, STEM and so on mind you. They pretty much are rewarded for scooping off the top few percentages of a 1+ billion population.
>>77519894
>>77520246
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>>77528443
Are you writing these paragraphs based off a general vibe that you feel? English student's aren't studying STEM enough.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/education-secretary-nicky-morgan-tells-teenagers-if-you-want-a-job-drop-humanities-9852316.html
>>77521207
>If the leave vote wins they'll simply invalidate it.
this would be so delicious.
>>77528341
Actually, it doesn't make "everyone" better off. It does profit some people short term but the long term repercursions make it a rotten deal for pretty much everyone. As local economy is destroyed, people driven out of jobs who in turn have to rely on welfare and internal strife is created by bringing in wildly differing groups who constantly have to be replaced with new people as a regression to the mean is eternally ongoing in them all of whom in turn become cost factors.
>>77528404
Yes, leftist shills and provocateurs are also a meme! Okay honest question, as this thread will soon end. Are you getting paid? Because if yes, I can do a better job. Where do I sign up? I wanna be paid for shit posting also!
>>77519894
Guess it's just coincidence all of the leftist, anti-whites are pro EU.
>>77519894
Britain never needed the EU and still doesn't.
>>77520344
Pay higher wages. Just because the potato taliban is ok with shit wages and conditions doesn't mean British people are.
>>77528869
Thanks, Hans, for this final post which contained precisely zero arguments but a couple of buzzwords and cancerous statements and sarcasm. I hope you vote Remain, oh wait you'll never have a referendum because you're cucked.
>>77529000
>pay higher wages
>uk farmers go out of business as they can't compete with African farmer's prices
>the uk is now reliant on the third world for food
Is this what you want? It happened with manufacturing.
>>77528869
In the long term the reduction in wages increases efficiency and productivity driving down costs and prices resulting in a gain for the rest of society that isn't effected by being driven out of that particular labour market. Obviously the point at which the localised effects to people in those effected labour markets start to outweigh those wider societal benefits is an empirical question though and much of the reading of the labour market economic literature that I have done albeit maybe 4 or 5 years ago now when I was studying Economics for my degree indicated that the benefits outweighed the gains but that research would have been a few years old at the time and the cost benefit analysis may well have shifted by now or would shift eventually if mass migration continued unchecked. However in the even longer term you can expect to see wage equalisation across countries start to kick in when there are high levels of freedom of movement of labour, capital and trade.
>>77521850
Oh please, you faggots are happy with your benefits.
>>77529077
Brings no arguments, expect others to bring arguments, alongside sources to fill his arbitary and constantly evolving criteria which he can change at any point to move the goalpost.
Carry on comrade, carry on.
>>77530129
I thought you were leaving the thread? Guess you can't get enough of the big anglo cock. And I never changed my criteria, you're just a faggot.
>>77530341
Getting frustrated? Hey, you're finally starting to sound like a proper /pol/ack. Are you guys using proxxies or genuinely from the countries you pretend to be from, what is your employer called? Honest question. If I can make some money on the side by shit posting on the internet I'd be up for it.
Could easily do a better job than you guys, I mean sure some of the contradictions and self defeatism you're forced to engage in is unavoidable but you guys kinda suck even at the rest.
>>77530756
Why are you ignoring someone replying to you making actual arguments in favour of this shit flinging stuff? I guess it is easier not to bother with actual discussion or you have just gotten tired and given up?
>>77530756
Yeah man you can make even money on the side by sucking Mehmet's greasy dick and spinning it around, letting the cum drip down it like fat dripping down a kebab in a Berlin takeaway, and then charging 6 deutschmarks. Oh no wait, you cucked away your currency, you faggot.
Btw that guy above who replied to you with a logical argument has been left unanswered. Stumped, cuck?
Now stop being the beta at the house party and get the fuck out.
>>77519894
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