>The IQs of 21 defendants in the Nuremberg trials were measured in 1945 by Gustave Gilbert, an American psychologist who studied the prisoners extensively. The test used was the Wechsler-Bellevue (in German)
>The average IQ is 128
>Hitlers was estimated between 141 and 175
liberals BTFO eternally
>>77499738
If krauts are so smart then why'd they lose? :^)
And Hillary has like 140 IQ
When will you retards realize that leaders of countries are smart people
>>77499738
>People in leading positions are usually smarter than average
>Political geniuses are smart
IN OTHER NEWS, /POL/ IS FULL OF RETARDS!
>>77499738
the people in the highest positions in the country were above average in IQ, wow, how fascinating.
>Hitler was etimated between 141 and 175
bu
by who, stormfront?
>>77500009
First Post Best Post
Nu/pol/ will ignore it though
>>77500009
U
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>>77500009
fpbp
nice quads
>>77500009
U
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>>77499738
Too bad Hjalmar Schacht was basically kicked out of his position because he didn't want 10% GDP military spending
>>77499738
Clever people can be deluded.
In fact, I mean to have read that the smarter you are, the likelier you are to develop some mental disease.
>>77500428
Dumb people can be deluded as well.
Borderline retarded Somalis (average 68 IQ) are already mentally ill. So whats your point.
How is sub 150 IQ impressive?
Me and some m8s took IQ tests for shits and giggles, we all had like 130-140 IQ.
Doesn't help me at all in my daily life...
Remember kids, motivation and discipline far outweighs intellect and "IQ"
>>77499738
what were your IQ before the romans?
IQ doesnt mean shit, i dont know why you germanics always talk about IQ
in fact is the only thing you talk about, its like you want proof something
"look romans, we arent stupid, look our IQ, you cant stop calling us savages and stupid"
>>77500665
Yeah, but statistics show that high IQ people have a bigger chance of being mentally ill, as in not just too stupid to function properly.
Niggers are just stupid.
>>77500101
>>77500168
>>77500216
if hitler did have an iq of 175 he would be smarter than every US president
>>77501268
IQ doesnt mean you are smart
that is germanic invention
>>77500101
Smarter than the average dolt but far below the intellect of geniuses.
>>77499738
>liberals BTFO eternally
On the contrary. Hitler was a liberal, pushing SOCIALISM.
>>77501556
So why the US military used it as a tool to better allocate people whitin? Were they fools?
>>77502252
germanics use that to feel better about themselves
what was their IQ before the romans?
>>77501032
>high IQ
>more likely to be mentally ill
>not becoming depressed and developing issues when you realize you're in a world of idiots that can't understand you
Is this a surprise?
>>77501917
>Hitler the liberal
>Glorified motherhood.
Liberals destroy motherhood. Hitler encouraged motherhood.
>Put millions of women into mens jobs
Yes, because men died for their country, now women just wagecuck the economy for Shekels. Oh forgot Diversity Manager. We need them so much.
>Killing gays and degenerate
Makes you a liberal?
>Treated men as tax serfs
Every man has to pay taxes since feudalism.
>Was raised by a single mom
Your best argument. Well done.
>>77500009
backstabbed by the eternal Anglo
not even a high IQ can save you from perfidious Albion and it's mongrel minions
GOTT STRAFE ENGLAN
>>77502596
They were nigger tier IQ probably back then. It changes over time.
>>77500009
ENGLISH ONLY USA
ENGLISH ONLY USA
Tbh because starting a war in the midst of International bankers is a bad idea.
Also the USSR anal'd them.
>>77501917
Hannity pls
>>77503158
its all about having an education
>>77500009
Numbers were against them. Too many Russians. They still had a 5:1 kill ratio though.
>>77500168
S-SLIDE IT
>>77501268
he didn't though
>>77502974
>Liberals destroy motherhood.
No, they don't. They destroy fatherhood.
>>77499738
>Hitlers was estimated between 141 and 175
He didn't understand what perspective is, he was a retarded fuck.
>>77503397
I believe there is a 50% to 70% gene factor in it, yet the germans are not the brightest of all and genius persons can be born in every race.
>>77500815
What? Some online tests?
Those are a complete farce and inflate every score just so you can share with others how intelligent you are. This will in turn make you share the website and give them profit.
Don't believe their lies, anon.
>>77500009
>They are stupid and nothing but share numbers
because the jew subverted the west to attack the wrong enemy. In seven years, the man built the worlds greatest super power. The best scientists, the best weapons, a healthy society from the rubble up.
I don't know if bait or not, but nobody can beat german science and engineering ever. Even today. When I do research I love to get my hands on German work. Brilliant, to the point, short, consistent thoroughly done to the extreme.
The jews have not destroyed this yet.
Listen to this man, basically standing there bombs raining down, knowing it is his last moments, yet he helds his head high and holds stand. I dunno if this is in the germanic blood, or if they were inspired from the sagas.
This also goes for the suicides in the bunker.
The heathens would lock their women and children in, and if the men fell, the women killed the children and hanged them selves.
There are a few examples in the sagas, I have smoked so I can't remember my own fucking dob... The vends(people in now poland) attacked while the army was out waring, as they so much liked to do, and they did this when they the cunt vends went strandhogg and viking.
Anyways, heavy shit. They don't show this on TV....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l0tr7QzQAM
R.I.P Great man.
Yeah I know you twist in your graves now my grand fathers, and their fathers too.
>>77504423
gah...
>they are stupid and HAVE nothing but share numbers
>>77499738
What is meme? :d :D
>>77500101
I call bullshit. You cant be half that intelligent and still lie so poorly.
>>77504423
Taylor Swift = feminism pusher, features lena dunham in her music clip, coal burner, promiscuous slut.
>>77500009
>>77500247
>>77500312
>>77505861
Not an argument
>>77504227
actually all online tests deflate their scores so you feel inferior and give them more money.
see how easy it is to make unfounded claims?
>>77500009
If whites are so smart why do they get killed and raped by niggers every day?
>>77499738
>no sauce
>>77505919
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZkMc5bvuyQ
>>77504423
more nazi taytay
>>77506010
Not when the overwhelming majority of people tested get 120+ scores. Just look at /pol/ IQ threads.
>>77506347
>>77506010
this really, it's been years since I was dragged along on this. Those tests aren't reliable.
You need to go an take a physical real one.
It's clearly possible to "train" I got 142 first then 147. This was before I went to the uni. But it's most newtonian phyics simple shit when it comes to those part of the test.
>>77504423
fanboy
>>77505642
well germanics were known to be very promiscuous, that germanic girl isnt cute at all
>>77506152
you know, those people there are germanic
>>77507434
>fanboy
nigger.
No my fellow hominid, if you watch this, read what HE SAYS see what HE SAYS... It's will blow your mind, if you haven't taken the red pill yet. He cannot compare to Hitler, nobody in modern times could.
They killed several of my family members
They captured and imprisoned one who liked to escape and raid their shit and spread in on the black marked and blowing up shits.
Yet these people, recognized the great qualities of what became our enemy. It's a norse thing, which stems from the old days. You did not mock and lie about your enemy, you embraced him by his qualities from his point of view.
>Wir sollen nicht liegen, Wir sollen nicht swindelen.
A nigger will never understand this
For göbbels
>Haltr ríðr hrossi
>hjörð rekr handarvanr
>daufr vegr ok dugir
>blindr er betri
>en brenndr sé
>nýtr manngi nás
>The lame man rides a horse,
>the one-armed man drives the herd,
>the deaf man fights and is useful;
>it is better to be blind
>than burnt:
>no-one is helped by a corpse.
>>77507536
looks like a swede
>>77508559
im not black you pigskin germanic
you are trying so hard to proof you are special or something
fuck off
>>77499738
>smartest wasn't a Nazi
>second smartest was an Austrian
Germans btfo
>>77499738
And that's why we cant have high IQ people in power. 105 IQ here.
>>77508762
>im not black
Dominican Republic
If you can't understand these, you are a nigger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7-wkdvGUt0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbT8vzX4sZY&feature=youtu.be&t=180
>>77506152
Not an argument
>>77509319
why you germanics always try to proof that you are special?
inferiority complex?
>>77509461
you're the one with the inferiority complex
nowhere did he try to prove HE was special, he admires Hitler and the qualities of the German people.
You take this to mean that he thinks he himself is special and you get all fucking offended.
Spoken like a true nigger.
>>77499738
SIEG HEIL
>>77509867
hahahahaah
im not offende but nice bait
>>77500009
Because Russia made a fuck load of tanks
>>77509982
Whatever. Just let him speak you disgusting fucking monkey. Humans are talking.
>>77501268
Except for Jimmy Carter.
>>77500009
We were busy coaling up These jews.
Can't fight on two fronts bra
>>77509461
>why you germanics always try to proof that you are special?
I'm norse, we are the superior "race". It's all about your blood line. Nobody is allowed to take the title King without hailing back to our Gods, who once walked this earth.
Face it. We're best because we are norse.
Even the traitor Bruntland which Breivik was gunning for but sadly missed admitted this:
>It's typical nork to be best
And yes, we are 10 times worse than the americans and their exceptionalism. They might have gotten our "biggoted nazi flag waving" and USA USA USA rants from us. I can't confirm this, but it's a bit to do with timing
>>77509867
Based Hrvatska
Fella proto european
>>77500101
Who cares? She's still a rancid evil cunt deserving 0.00000% respect.
>Alfred Rosenberg
>Rosenberg
>>77500009
The Krauts were the best, just weren't enough of them. Most fail in the face of overwhelming odds.
>>77499738
Schacht was a highly capable man but he was kicked out in 1936 because he opposed rearmament. He wasn't a Nazi. He was the reason German economy recovered.
But your argument is that LEADERS of a certain group/country/society had high IQ...how fucking dumb are you m8?
It's strange actually, that so many people from the balkans look like us. Some don't some do.
My brother has a serb wifu, you could never pass her for a foreigner. Many of the people are also tall. And it isn't just from the goths. There is a link here,, further back than we know.
We don't know everything today when it comes to genes and wandering of peeps over tyme
But my damn there is a link. You see this with many ukranians and ruskies too. During the war my grand mother and her mother, actually hid a russian than managed to flee in their addict, in the fucking worst zone to be in. And his name was fucking Ivan. But he was such a ruski, and also prolly why he managed to go to north norway. Promised to write... but we all know what happened to those who came back, they were sent to the gulag as traitors.... So we don't know what became of Ivan's fate after he left Norway, but I'm sure he died.
communism....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-YCtdu7gAM
>Dönitz
This fucking retard holy shit. He may had a high IQ but for fucks sake... He wanted to scrap the entire surface fleet of the Kriegsmarine for his gay-ass submarines.
Tirpitz never even fucking sortied properly, most of the Hipper-class cruisers got blown the fuck out and only Scharnhorst, Gneisenau and Bismarck saw some actual combat, with Bismarck being sunk at her first real sortie.
Meanwhile, he failed to realize that Aircraft carriers were the future rather than his constant commercial raiding and submarine-wolf-pack hunting. This nigger didn't even fucking realize that the Allies cracked the Enigma when his Subs started to get blown the fuck out as well.
Rather than completing Graf Zeppelin and Götz von Berlichingen, that were similar to the IJN's Akagi-class CVs, properly developing some carrier-based planes and then starting to wreak some actual havoc, he fucked it all up because he had his head so fervently stuck up his own ass, it's surprising he didn't create a singularity and blowing up the Reich with him.
>>77500009
Same reason the Rhodesians lost I guess.
>>77511547
Damn right!
>>77512168
But Dönitz was absolutely correct. And he didn't want to scrap the fleet (that was Hitler after Battle of Barents Sea), he just agitated for investing all resources into submarines.
Germany had literally no capacity to build aircraft carriers. Brits had several fleet carriers, Americans had 20 or something.
Building ships like Bismarck or Scharnhorst was absolute idiocy, even bigger than than pre-WW1 KM expansion.
Germany had no hopes of ever competing with Royal Navy. All resources spent on battle-fleet were thus wasted resources. If they spent them on submarines and naval aviation (long range bombers and patrol aircraft), they might've had a far bigger impact.
>>77512123
>It's strange actually, that so many people from the balkans look like us.
Entire Europe is one genetic cluster dude. Balkans are especially diverse when it comes to physical appearance.
>>77511604
surprisingly not a jew. actually the anti jew if there ever was one
>>77510273
wowow
hahahahaha
riding his dick so much?
didnt slav come from slave?
shut up subhuman slave
>>77510611
WE ARE DA BEST
>>77503990
and motherhood. Basically the concept of a functioning family
>>77500009
3 to 1 you Amerifat.
KM battleships were some 150,000 tons of steel.
Let's just use that. That's almost 150 submarines.
Now consider they were crewed by 8000 men, and that it's not as simple as that.
Considering their maintenance and building expenses the fact armor is not just simple steel, probably more.
Imagine what 150-200 extra submarines would do to British supply lines, and I'm using a low estimate. Submarines are far easier to build and far cheaper to maintain.
And that's just battleships. On top of that you had several heavy cruisers, many destroyers and so on.
All those resources (and precious oil too) spent on impotent fleet that spent most of war in harbor dodging RAF bombs.
>>77512904
I'm not denying that his subs were good and that they sunk a shit ton of ships, but ASW developed fast with active sonar negating the effects of silent-running.
With some CVs they could've nuked some of the larger ships of the RN and continued their air assault on Britain against the RAF without the need of long range bombers and fighters.
Battleships were fucking retarded, no argument there, but at the time it seemed like a good idea. If he looked over the shoulder and took some notes from the Pacific Theatre, he would've realized that aircraft carriers, even smaller escort carriers, could've been more effectively deployed to continue raiding commerical ships with his reduced submarines as spotting/intervention ships and the battleships taking potshots, making sure they wouldn't be blown up by air superiority.
>>77513059
its because germanics invaded most of europe then slavs came
look pic related
you can see germanics invaded most of europe
they raped and killed many people
>>77513676
it comes from slov which means word as slavs could speak with eachother as opposed to the nemec (mute) germans whose language was too different
>>77512168
submarines were a more cost effective counter to the british navy, the kreigsmarine wouldnt have stood a chance against against the dirty anglo scum even if all the effort had been channeled into it
What was his IQ?
>>77501619
>Genius IQ is generally considered to begin around 140 to 145, representing ~.25% of the population (1 in 400).
Clearly you aren't one.
>>77513059
>Balkans are especially diverse when it comes to physical appearance.
Yeah, this I do know. And people have wandered in all times, particular us from up here, as well the land can only feed us so much. We don't got the soil one has down in mainland europe
>>77514038
>look pic related
you can see germanics invaded most of europe
they raped and killed many people
you repeat yourself like a borderline Somali and finally you shill with morals
>>77501917
>muh NatSoc is bad because socialism meme
Fucking lolbertarians
This is a Nationalist forum
>>77505861
Is this the opposite of the Coincidence Detector?
>>77514007
>ASW developed fast
Type XXI was a breakthrough that negated it, for example. If more were built, who knows what could've happened.
>With some CVs they could've nuked some of the larger ships of the RN
You're forgetting RN had fleet carriers. And unlike KM, they had trained crews and experience in using them.
That's the main issue here. Instead of going asymmetric where enemy didn't have any advantage (submarines), they made a half-assed attempt (for propaganda too) to build some surface fleet which was inferior to RN not just numerically, but in quality too. Hitler was no strategic genius, on the contrary, he was just a confident demagogue with a lot of balls.
Aircraft carriers are incredibly vulnerable, and the few Germans could've built would be far easier target than several hundred submarines.
>>77514155
In the beginning they sure were, but once the RN adapted the USN doctrine of aggressively hunting subs with radar, active sonar and dropping depth charges/underwater mines, that effect was negated fairly fast.
With proper air superiority, they would've achieved a hell of a lot more.
>>77514631
what you said dont make any sense
>>77514744
im convinced Australians should be banned from using the internet because of retards like you
irrelevant little island
>>77514885
But if submarines suffered, carriers would suffer even more.
What could few German CV's do against dozens of Allied?
They should've invested in naval aviation instead. Like Fw 200 which was incredibly effective.
>>77499738
>175 IQ
>decided to invade Russia
>>77514813
Nah typical jewish subversion application as far as I understand, I missed this.
>hess
>120
Fuck no.
>>77515279
>>77499738
is anything of this authentic, and where is sauce?
TBQH I don't even know half of these
>>77500009
Underrated post
>>77515592
HITLER IST DEUTSCHLAND, DEUTSCHLAND HITLER IST
>>77515219
Same thing the KM subs and cruisers did - Raiding commercial ships via air, being able to detect the RN movements more easily etc.
We could argue day and night about RN and KM as well as the pros and cons of subs and CVs, but it's rather a moot point. The sheer number of resources the Allied Forces had was overwhelming compared to the Axis.
And for fucks sake, we were allied with fucking Italy. Fuck these useless Pastaniggers getting fucked by Ethiopia.
>>77514920
Slavs are in Europe at least for 3000 years which absolutely disproves the theory of Slavs coming after Germans. Genetics do not lie.
>>77515822
>sauce?
Florence R. Miale, Michael Selzer: "The Nuremberg Mind -- The Psychology of the Nazi Leaders".
learn to google
>>77499738
>Hitlers was estimated between 141 and 175
>source: my ass
>>77516258
Yeah but they don't have the advantages subs do. That's my point. And those advantages are everything.
And true, that's why they needed to think radically. They didn't.
>Italy
They could've allied with Brits and French which could make German position awful.
>>77500009
To destroy one national-socialistic country you needed all capitalistic and socialistic countries combined. Shows the strenghts of Nazi-germany
>>77515219
>>77516258
Someone said boats?
meh you can't fish with those underwater ones, well hardly. We use some to pick up new deepwater species too kill and piss hollywood off.
You guys should see this nazi movie that was found hidden at "riksarkivet" just a few years ago 09 or 10 I think.
Kampf um Norwegen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tOsJGWq7DE&index=7&list=PLjDTXubo7OsByeVVbtx-3VsDJ6pqROisG
MSM say the movie was scrapped because it wasn't "propagandaish" enough. So we ignore that, but for some reason it was never shown.
They have cut out the commercials which was a lot of propaganda about not sneaking bread and be a jew lol.
Anyways first off I can see my house from there! It's the only video documentation we got from what we've always been told. Our grand parents and gg ones with balls, blocked the roads with lumber blocks 100m a part, blew up the bridges from romerike too Hamar.
Must see. It's very informative, accurate. And it's been confirmed that Hitler actually did cut the anglos off from occupying us.
For us it's damn strange to see, from the enemys viewpoint. And so detailed! 10/10
>>77500009
>>77500101
>>77500168
>>77500247
>>77500312
>>77500428
>>77500665
>>77500815
Hhahahahaha, look at all this cognitive dissonance. You libshits will shitpost all day about "muh superior libertardian IQ" or "muh libertards has moar educashuns", then you'll flip around and pretend "IQ doesn't real" if it makes some vulnerable group you signal with look stupid, or it makes your ideological enemies look smarter than average. Your mental gymnastics are endless, you pathetic legbeard landwhales.
>>77516480
>Jews pathologizing anything goyish that criticizes Jewish predatory tribalism
Googe Kevin MacDonald
>>77517088
And yet all those subs still got fucked up by the aggressive USN ASW doctrine as well as radar and active sonar. Subs were dangerous, but them being vulnerable to depth charges and also being easily spotted by airplanes made them only really viable in night battles. Aircraft carriers, while being vulnerable, would've been able to not only defend Tirpitz and support her for actual raiding, but also could've intervened in Operation Rheinübung (Channeldash) by sending fighter groups to intercept incoming dive- and torpedo bombers and in a lot of other situations. Plus, Germanys damage control wasn't fucking Japan-tier bad in the first place.
Remember Kaga? Remember when a single torpedo sunk her?
Yes, this is what made them so evil
>>77517380
It really didn't. Germany was A. Poland, UK, France, USSR and so on were B, C, D etc.
A first attacked B, C and D barely acted, then took out C, B was isolated, then struck at D and so on. They didm't face coordinated opponents until later part.
German success was product of planning for war and exploiting the division and unpreparedness of their opponents. UK and France appeased Hitler instead of eliminating him when he was still weak.
In any case, they lost by 1943, and mostly because of USSR. Americans aided but they didn't face them directly until Italy, which was quickly contained.
In reality USSR alone outproduced Germany and with less manpower. Keep in mind they lost Ukraine and Belarus and big part of Russia. Axis actually had temporary advantage. They failed to use it properly.
Nazi Germany lost because it made bad decisions. That's all really. It wasn't some desperate stand against impossible odds.
It only became that due to strategic mistakes.
>max iq: 143
Some master race. It's been said that the average iq of US generals is over 200.
>>77505614
Half of what she says is a liberal in-joke not meant to be taken at face value.
>>77502974
Men aren't taxed extra for being bachelors.
Men serve women and finance the production of the next generation. Women raise and care for these children and should have no expectation to have to pay for them.
This is the ideal he pushed for.
>>77516374
DELETE THIS
kek yeah we know that during our time, part the swedes fucked and loved with large parts of eastern europe. Nor and Dan usually went in vestrleið (western path) while Sven(RIP) went austrleið(eastern path).
>Russia is Svens baby, you can still see that little love-hate thing going on there. Very diff what we have us between. Secretly they love each other, well used too.
And as stated earlier, people wandered along too. And it wasn't just in the vikingage the heathens fucked around, it predates christ.
Sadly as this history is written lit millennia later, and a lot of people actually went away in the 600ds so we changed tongue too, well over time history mixes with myths, these we call Sagn.
Passtime was to recite poems called kvads about great men, women and their deeds. If you want to become a heathen you must read all this material, because these poems have a lot of cross refrences and "rewriting". It's a big web.
Here is a kvad about Gange Rolv, who you know as Rollo the first norman king, grand father of Wilhelm who took England
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=414mrPgK5Yk
Here is another cool one about the fall of Harald Hardråde at stamford. (It's important to note down how kings or people die, to ensure which home they went to, as it is all about how you die, which is fixed)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0zGo122vMY
This children sang and listened to and prolly had as nightstories/lullabys
Man what did you to do us Rome? Pic related, fucking killed the pig slaughtering burning down civilians whole towns, forcing christianity upon people. Yet his fall brought this garbage to the north, the dead one is St.Olav the Holy
>>77518170
It's a problem of numbers and using them, as I said.
Carriers are far easier to detect. It's far harder to deploy forces and exploit your supremacy against submarines. You can't really concentrate forces since they are so elusive. That's not a problem with carriers. And how many fighters would they carry? Few dozen at best.
Yes, ASW improved but submarine technology would improve if you invested resources and time into it. As I said, Type XXI was revolutionary and if deployed in sufficient numbers it could've been important.
>Operation Rheinübung
Luftwaffe did it alone though.
>Germanys damage control
You are overestimating KM. KM was easily the least competent arm of German military, excluding submarine force that learned during war. They fought and died bravely, but that's it.
Germans simply lacked time and tradition to develop a proper navy. It takes few years to build a ship, but century to build a tradition.
Japanese depended on navy and had to gamble. They invested far more resources than Germany (proportionally) over longer period. But they still couldn't hope to catch Americans and British. That's why they used shit like explosion-prone torpedoes, that's why they built behemoths like Yamato-class.
They understood they'll lack resources, so they went asymmetric. Only way to beat a superior opponent is by going asymmetric. They gambled and the gamble failed.
It's dumb to waste resources on something that can't realistically compete. What's funny is that Germans did same before WW1.
So many resources were spent on a fleet that in the end fought one big battle and spent it's war in harbor. Brits would invest those resources in navy anyway. Germans didn't have to.
>>77518468
Where the fuck did you hear this retarded bullshit from?
Also, another way Germans used resources awfully: fighter pilots.
Luftwaffe literally abused them like mules, there was no rotation, they amassed huge numbers in kills but they also died a lot. Sure, they were an advantage in combat, but that wasn't long-term thinking.
And when they died, no one was left to train new ones. So Luftwaffe got worse and worse when it came to pilots. Same happened with Japanese.
Germans used resources far worse than Soviets did for example.
>>77518468
Svarte faen.. Try harder man
That's some sort of Sven-Leaf lame ass shit.
I smelly syrup
If that was you KGB/STASI/NSA whatever fancy 3-4 letter agency.
Fuck off, nobody here is revealing if they have or have had any generals in their family
>>77518468
>B-BUT THEIR IQ WAS BIGGER THAN YOURS
Just shut up faggot.
>>77519308
>>77519308
>burning down civilians whole towns, forcing christianity upon people.
And that children is how culture spread in the old days. Idiots will tell you the losers were kind awesome valiant people conquered by evil empires, but the losers always claim a moral victory.
The Chinese had writing and firecrackers when you were living like possums waving pointy sticks at each other, give it a fuckin rest.
>>77519308
What are u rambling about, Viking? That Slavs had a huge empire modern history never mentions? ;)
>>77514224
Some what rare!
