We all agree that the Second Amendment was worded poorly by 2016 standards. ITT rewrite it so that all americans can agree on the meaning, and foreigners will stop making jokes about it.
Here is my version: All american citizens have the right to keep and bear arms, provided they pass a background check yearly. Any type of hand-held weapon shall be legal.
Common sense gun laws are good for all of us.
>>77460514
The founding fathers wrote it with common sense.
No need to change it
>>77460514
don't need it. Don't care.
Nobody is coming after handguns nor are they coming after hunting rifles. What these anti-gun lobbyists are coming for is automatic guns and rifles.
It doesn't matter, it never will. There's a stand still right now. Even if we did outlaw auto rifles. Mexico can just import the mother fuckers. So some dude looking to shoot up a school can still buy the shit from his local drug dealer or biker gang.
None of it matters anyways. We don't need automatic weapons if it's necessary to overthrow this dictatorship we call a government.
>>77460514
>all of us
:^)
>>77460514
Nothing wrong with the original.
>>77460514
SHALL NOT BE FUCKING INFRINGED UPON BY SPINELESS FUCKING LIBERALS IN PANTSUITS
>>77460905
>automatic guns and rifles
Where? I own 12 "assault weapons" and I've never even seen an automatic rifle.
>>77460514
Yes, guns are evil, goy! Stay away from them! Oy vey!
>>77460514
>provided they pass a background check yearly
SHALL
a 2016 version would just read "#RightToArms" so the new dumbfuck generation could understand it
>>77461045
>I've never even seen an automatic rifle.
Fucking pleb, I've visited the states 2 and even I got to hold one... Didn't get to BBRRRT BRRRT unfortunately due to ammo draught in the Obamania..
>>77460514
>All American citizens are entitled to the right to defend themselves with whatever weaponry they see fit.
>>77460964
You do know the 2nd ammendment is an "ammendment". It was not in the original Constitution, it can be changed.
>Any type of hand held weapon shall be legal
Fucking sweet, I've always wanted a Javelin launcher!
*chkFOOOM* motherfuckers, fuck your tanks
>>77460514
>ITT rewrite it so that all americans can agree on the meaning, and foreigners will stop making jokes about it.
OK "We keep our guns, you kill yourself"
>>77460514
I have one that may reduce gun-related homocides by half:
"Guns are for whites only. Any black or latino minority in the United States shall be immediately incarcerated for owning live ammunition, firearms, or attempting to purchase such."
>>77461251
The Bill of Rights was specifically designed to never be changed.
>>77461251
the 2nd amendment was in the bill of rights you fucking retard
>>77461251
Maybe, but the last people who tried it died.
>>77460514
>We all agree that the Second Amendment was worded poorly by 2016 standards.
No we dont
>>77460905
Automatic rifles already require an elusive Class II license, retard, and even then no new ones can be made or imported.
>>77460514
But it's not
Shall not be infringed is straight forward
>>77460514
Reword it so that every citizen must own at least one rifle, and should go target practicing at least once a week.
Start with everyone can keep whatever arms they want. Revoke license if convicted of a crime.
Or just leave the amendment alone.
White Americans have the right to own and carry any weapons they deem appropriate to protect themselves.
Jefferson's authenticated version -- with the two useless commas removed -- is fine.
>>77460514
>background check every year......
Why not just make it every hour, huh? Really makes you think.
>>77460514
People on the Internet fall for racist Trump campaign, fall for the regressive left propaganda and fall for the guns control campaign again.
My recommendation to you guys will be this. Gun control works if and only if you have a very strict border policy, even much more than a Trump wall.
A ban on guns will create a black market impossible to control and impossible to chase, when the profits on something is to high, the market will always be there.
For example drugs, the government declaring the war on drugs and what that has accomplish?
>>77460514
All americans have the right to bear arms under military controll.
Aka all americans have to serv in the army all americans can be drafted to bear arms. All americans that dont serv have no rights and are no americans.
>>77460514
SHALL
>>77461188
No new automatic guns may be made or imported for civilian sale after spring 1986. What autos we have are therefore over 30 years old. The floor price for the cheapest auto, MAC subguns, is about 7000 dollars in addition to a 200 dollar tax stamp and minimum 8 month background check performed by the ATF.
These things aren't just rolling around the street.
>>77460514
The right of every American citizen to own and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
>>77462610
This guy knows his shit.
Price to produce an M249? Around $4000 a unit.
Price to purchase one that was produced before 1986? Last one I saw at a show was $120k
It's fucking MADNESS.
I have no problem being chummy with the ATF, and letting them do their gay ass evaluation period, background check, paperwork, etc, but what's the fucking point if you aren't willing to take out a mortgage on some SMALL ARMS.
>>77462506
And I suppose freedom of speech only refers to ye olde american speak rather than the new words that have been added since then.
That only refers to muskets arguments is one of the stupidest things I've heard considering how there were automatic machine guns when it was declared.
>>77462610
>What autos we have are therefore over 30 years old.
I know.. The one I held was a classic Colt M16 that was likely older than that, at least the lower was. It also wasn't legally registered as a machine gun because the owner didn't actually live in a free state.
>These things aren't just rolling around the street.
They sort of are, but most people that have them tend to be wary of sharing that information.
>>77462987
>I have no problem being chummy with the ATF, and letting them do their gay ass evaluation period, background check, paperwork, etc, but what's the fucking point if you aren't willing to take out a mortgage on some SMALL ARMS.
Don't most people buy them for investment reasons or collections these days? I mean I can sort of imagine dropping $5000,- on a shitty mac10 for 'BRRTBRRT' fun, but 120k is a bit steep JUST for a fun time.
I would say the way its done in Finland is the best, you can get a gun if you are decent person and have a real reason to own a gun, eg. active reservist, ipsc, hunting etc. The Usa way of doing this is pretty wierd, you get a gun, he gets a gun, everyone gets a gun, yes?
Here comes the big but.
ITS WRITTEN IN THE FUCKING CONSTITUTION, ITS THE ULTIMATE LAW SO WHAT THE FUCK ARE LEFTIST CRYING?
>>77463238
>120K
>investment reasons
>collections
>for fun
Ever heard of suppressing fire, toothpaste? 200 rounds of belt-fed 5.56 @ 100 RPM is REALLY nice to have. The price is complete arbitrary nonsense bullshit. I can literally buy a whole case of M67 grenades with an explosives license for less than that.
Don't touch the 2nd amendment - it's borderline untouchable
Change psychiatric & counter-terrorism laws:
For the period you're considered dangerous or under investigation, you are not considered an American citizen. Hence, a bunch of rights no longer apply to you.
Done.
>>77460514
>We all agree that the Second Amendment was worded poorly by 2016 standards.
Nothing relevant has changed between then and now.
>>77460905
>What these anti-gun lobbyists are coming for is automatic guns and rifles.
automatics have been illegal for years.
what is the Brady Bill.
idiot.
>>77460837
No, they worded it badly. They should have specified that "the people" have the right to bear arms, not just "militias"
Also OP:
>one post by this id
>>77463932
>Ever heard of suppressing fire, toothpaste? 200 rounds of belt-fed 5.56 @ 100 RPM is REALLY nice to have.
Yeah, if you're a serviceman that gets one from his boss, or if you could buy one at market value... Not for $120.000,- (one hundred and twenty thousand dollars).
>The price is complete arbitrary nonsense bullshit. I can literally buy a whole case of M67 grenades with an explosives license for less than that.
My point exactly. If you've got 120k laying around to blow on weaponry, I think you can make better choices than to blow it all on a single LMG that may or may not catastrophically fail with prolonged use because it's fucking old.
>>77461251
yeah but it's a trust indenture, as in the constitution isn't legal and binding without the bill of rights being law first, the bill of rights defines how the government can operate and states that without it the federal government does not legally exist
>>77460514
How about:
>People can own whatever the fuck they want, including any type of weapon.
>>77464585
>They should have specified that "the people" have the right to bear arms, not just "militias"
"THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"
Have you even read the 2nd Amendmend?
>>77460514
>We all agree that the Second Amendment was worded poorly by 2016 standards
No "we" don't.
>>77464458
>Nothing relevant has changed between then and now.
What are amendments 11 through 27?
>>77460514
>All american citizens have the right to keep and bear arms
No limitations and no barriers across state lines. No tax stamps no Conceal carry permits necessary. No laws or restrictions.
>>77464585
>The right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Seems pretty clear to me
>>77460514
>1 post by this id
Stop replying to b8, shill, and slide threads people. There are more pressing matters to discuss in other threads
No fuck off you nigger
>>77464248
sorry no, psychiatry is a scam set up by a jewish con man named edward bernays, it's a political tool, they used to stick gay people in mental homes and give them lobotomies so they wouldn't embarrass their families
>>77460514
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>>77461367
Nice 9gag-tier meme pic you have there, completely ignoring the fact that Mexico is an A tier shithole with huge gang and drug related problems, while Switzerland isn't.
>>77460514
>We all agree
Stop with these blatant weasel words, shill.
>>77460514
ALL AMERICANS CAN OWN A GUN OR MULTIPLE, FAGGOTS. ONLY WITH THE DUE PROCESS OF LAW MAY REMOVE THIS RIGHT FROM ANY ONE CITIZEN. LYNCH BLACKS
Every american citizen gets a nuke
>>77461251
>ammendment
>Britons in charge of spelling
>>77464849
We all know that the real reason Switzerland is better than mexico is because it's over 90% white, but that would upset the normies
>>77464849
>completely ignoring the fact that Mexico is an A tier shithole with huge gang and drug related problems, while Switzerland isn't.
That's more or less the point though: Other factors tend to be much more relevant to crime than the legal availability of firearms.
>>77464919
Fuck man, I just want a tank.
>>77461367
Are you posting that picture to take the piss or are you really that retarded?
>>77464849
I think that's the point.
it has nothing to do with guns really, it has to do with other societal problems.
so banning guns won't stop killing it will only make it's citizens less free, and less able to fight against government tyranny.
You can either have 50 queers getting shot in orlando or 1400 girls raped in rotherham, bad things will continue to happen unless you heal the rot in society.
EVERY. FUCKING. DAY.
>>77460514
love it or leave it
go back to India
Even without the 2nd amendment, the right to keep and bear arms would still exist as an inherent, natural right as our rights aren't granted to us by the government and gun control is not an enumerated power
>>77464893
Doesn't it seem reasonable to specify what "arms" and conditions they may be kept on, not for the safety of the government, but safety of the common man.
>>77460514
A well supplied militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
>>77460514
>trusting the government which you would rise up against and is the reason the amendment exists to do this
you people are fucking retards
>>77460514
Here's a better one:
"The Right of the People to bear arms to defend themselves from violence and tyranny,and bear weapons comparable to the infantry that they will support as members of the irregular Militia,may not be infringed upon. Any Representative or Senator who proposes any Statute,Law,or Amendment to restrict the Rights of the People has committed Treason,and shall be summarily executed by the first Citizen who may lay hands upon him."
Think that's clear enough to not need interpretation?
>>77461373
(With the exception of the individual commonly known as McNiggerator)
>>77465068
http://www.sturmgewehr.com/forums/index.php?/topic/3573-wts-german-leopard-1-main-battle-tanks-3-125000-pics/
>>77461373
they'd just get them as they cross the border after that
>>77460514
fuck off
>>77460514
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED FAGGOT
FUCK OFF WITH YOUR SHILL THREAD
>A Jewless, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear ovens, shall not be infringed.
>>77460905
>Nobody is coming after handguns nor are they coming after hunting rifles
Oh but they will, and probably.
Never mind the fact that many people hunt with semi-automatics and use them in sports like 3-gun. Look at my own country for the future of gun control.
First they ban the assault weapons. This consists of your typical scary AR-15s, AK clones, etc. Lots of people used Leader SARs, SKSs, L1A1s and M1 Carbines here pre-1996 for hunting pigs and goats as they often appear in big mobs. These all got banned so those hunters had to give them up.
Then semi-automatic shotguns got caught up in the ban because they have the evil semi-automatic action. These were mostly waterfowl guns, even going back in time looking at pictures of our buyback you'll see the SA shotguns are even engraved with ducks and shit so even the mentally challenged know what it's made for. The rest of the semi-automatic shotguns were sporting guns or skeet/trap guns.
Then pump-action shotguns and semi-auto rimfires got caught up in the mix. They're banned too. Both are useful utilitarian guns, semi-auto rimfires mostly as guns for rabbits or toads, or for teaching kids. Pump-action shotguns for pigs and were just handy cheap guns to have around. Low capacity, low rate of fire, yet still got banned.
20 years later and lever-action guns are the new assault weapons. They ran out of actual scary things to ban and are now going after all repeating firearms, handguns too.
So they will come after hunting rifles. They will come after handguns. They'll just wait until everyone becomes used to there being no actual dangerous guns, then claim what's left should have been banned years ago.
Any mentally-able person above age 21 can submit to written and practical test in order to obtain a tier 1 firearm license.
>Tier 1 license = semi-automatic pistol
Any mentally-able person who's had a tier 1 firearm for a year can have his license re-evaluated and upgraded to tier 2 after written and practical tests.
>Tier 2 license = semi-automatic rifles
And so on.
Also, licenses can be temporarily suspended through a court order and permanently suspended only after the holder has been convicted of multiple gun-related crimes.
>>77460514
No niggers or muslims allowed
>>77461160
underrated
>>77460514
(((You)))
>>77460514
The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.
I like your style OP, cutting out all the wordy language, and going for the juicy stuff.
>>77460514
>Here is my version: All american citizens have the right to keep and bear arms, provided they pass a background check yearly. Any type of hand-held weapon shall be legal. Any firearm projectile from the weapon cannot exceed .50 caliber in diameter in the case of a bullet and 12 gauge in the case of a shotgun. No gun firing bullets where unfired shells exceed 3 inches in length or bullets exceed 1 inch in length are allowed. No weapon holding more than 10 bullets when fully loaded is allowed. No magazine holding more than 10 bullets is allowed. No person may carry on his body outside of his home or vehicle more than 500 rounds of ammunition at any time. Also, any allowed weapon does not fire more than one cartridge for one trigger actuation. Open carry of long-arms is allowed in all 50 States by non-felons.
>>77461373
10/10
>>77460514
All Americans have a right to the weapons necessary to form a military.
>yfw this is the exact same meaning the writers intended
>>77468359
that's historically true.
>>77460514
Ignore this thread its a one post shill
>>77460514
>Current year meme
Yeah fuck off, you know cause it's 2016
>>77460514
>1(!) post by this ID
DO NOT EVER RESPOND TO THREADS OP DOES NOT POST IN.
we are being probed and noone gets it, for fuck's sake!
>>77468587
Fuck I should've saged
>>77468587
>>77468700
I was waiting to see the overall mood. I don't really like threads where the OP has a one-on-one conversation with 20 other people.
Having said that, I am glad to see that many of you have progressive ideas and agree with Milo yesterday and Trump's recent position that we need to compromise on guns in america. 49 people shot dead because some nobody was having issues is not acceptable.
>>77460514
Get fucked, commie.
>>77460514
Google Kimveer gill.
Canadacuck Indian who shot up his school with a Beretta Storm. He had a restricted license to own it which requires everything that OP suggests plus more. It takes months and months of background checks and waiting periods to get that kind of a gun in Canada and yet he still went full Klebold/Cho on his school.
Gun control does not work. I'll tell you what does work, is Vermont. No gun laws whatsoever regarding carrying. If you can legally own a gun you can carry it concealed and as a result there's hardly any crime because everybody is carrying.
>>77468921
>49 dead
>320.000.000 population
Shit shill, how about you fuck off to, where you came from. The weather is nice on reddit during this time of the year.
>>77468921
But remember terrorist bro was a security guard, so even if guns were illegal for civillians to own in the US he still could've got one.
He also passed psych tests to get the security guard job.
>>77468921
PAID SHILL
>>77460514
SHALL
>>77460514
>Any type of hand-held weapon shall be lega
fuck off I bet you're a yankee faggot - you have an enshrined right to own tanks and nukes yet you fucking want your little shooty gun? fucking faggot to the max I hope some bitch like you gets killed by dindus because they didn't use their GOD GIVEN RIGHT to place cannon entrenchments on their property
>>77468921
>compromise
>of your constitutional rights
>the amendment literally says "shall not be infringed"
WHY DOES ANYONE ON /POL/ BOTHER RESPONDING TO THIS TREASONOUS SHIT!
>>77469493
do you think australia's gun laws are ok? I understand that if you belong to a hunting or shooting club you can buy a gun after a background check.
Here in america we have loopholes that basically allow anyone to get a weapon. that made sense 200 years ago, but now it seems reckless.
>>77460514
It was worded perfectly. If you disagree, you should be hanged for treason.
>>77469717
>>compromise
successful people like myself and Donald Trump know that you have to be willing to negotiate to accomplish anything. We can be hard-headed and eventually lose all our rights, or we can be open-minded and enjoy reasonable access to weapons.
>>77469896
Or we can fucking kill you if you ever come for our guns. No more compromise.
Citizens have the right to bare arms. Even guns that don't exist yet or aren't fully developed like hand held lazers or rail guns.
>>77469896
Spoken like a true slave. Bravo.
>>77461205
THIS
>>77469722
>I understand that if you belong to a hunting or shooting club you can buy a gun after a background check
You can get a firearm without being a member of a club as easily as if you are.
No, I think our firearms laws are too restrictive on gun types available (getting a semi auto without being a primary producer is basically impossible if you want to do it legally... illegally not so difficult)
I think the licensing here is a good idea - however USA and Australia are not comparable considering you have Mexico to the south and Canada to the north.
It is the duty of every white man in the united states to own, operate and maintain firearms to protect against the brown hoards and tyrannical governments.
This is a right of the people that shall not be infringed under any circumstances.
>>77460514
>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
What part of this do you liberals not understand.
Fuck off with your bullshit, or take a fucking class
on how the constitution was written and why.
>>77467462
No. Bad merchant
>>77460514
>hand-held
civilian grenade launchers when?
>/pol/turds think they can interpret the constitution better than a guy who literally has a JD from Harvard and holds the highest office in the land.
>>77470408
it was definitely written so you can feel big and tough when you buy a shiny new gun and fantasize about killing muslims
>>77460514
We will continue beating around the bush because people will never come out and say that we have a non-white problem.
Well, it says that people should have guns under regulation. It doesn't need to be rewritten, we just need a competent congress.
>>77460514
>>77470684
Suitcase nukes when?
Hey trump faggots,,,,,,, how do ya explain this one?!?
http://nyti.ms/1UVQaIy
LMAO
>>77460514
>We all agree that the Second Amendment was worded poorly by 2016 standards. ITT rewrite it so that all americans can agree on the meaning, and foreigners will stop making jokes about it.
Seems pretty clear to me:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
And the militia part is pertinent too, as a militia is an army of of civilians, and well regulated means properly supplied.
So, to word it in 2016 standards;
A armed civilian population, properly equipped and separate from the US military, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Does that help you understand it?
>>77469896
>constitutional rights
>shall not be infringed
why do you have to lose any rights at all? why make an ominous and vague threat to all your rights, that could only be taken away by a totalitarian regime?
If you go after guns, you're sparking a civil war. This isn't rocket science.
>>77471164
>well regulated
>>WELL REGULATED
Come on
>>77471184
>why do you have to lose any rights at all?
no one is advocating giving up any rights. and as for that, congress, the NSA, and others have been eroding our rights to privacy for decades now, and nobody complains much.
all we have to do is think progressively and realize that in the current year, 2016, something like a deadly weapon should be controlled.
>provided they pass a background check yearly.
and then you get told that you didn't pass by obama because YOU'RE A WHITE MALE
>in order to resist tyranny by foreign and domestic states, the people's right to comparative weaponry shall not be infringed
As in the days of Ancient Greek, in the early iron age, the democratic process should be a discussion between equals, a conversation between gentlemen, not some entrenched almost foreign power with rights to dictate people freely. Rights should only be infringed upon, outside of in punishment for a crime, if there is a great and pressing threat. They used to depose tyrants who grew too powerful in those early days of pure democracy, and many decades ago, before its complete corruption, America used to break up banks for the same reason. I think objectively lunatics or criminals holding guns pose a similar threat to society so I agree with background checks but the right of a sane family unit to hold arms for their own protection outside the fallible government must not be infringed upon.
>>77460514
which was the backup board again?
>>77464662
mostly a bunch of illegal bullshit, everything passed after bretton woods
Actually it's worded very clearly.
>>77472363
it implies that gun rights are related to state militias. most gun owners are not members of state militias. if it was talking about personal gun ownership, there would be no need to mention militias, and if they wanted to discuss the two, they could have made it more clear.
I understand that you are saying that it is very clear to you, but lots of reasonable people find the wording to be problematic.
>>77471310
Yes, well regulated means properly functioning, ie; that is effective and able to properly equip itself, it does not mean regulated by the government, which is why they further clarified it by stating:
THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE TO BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
>>77460514
Here, let me break out the old english translator for you.
+Translate++A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed++
++
++
++
+Thought for the Day++He who cannot fight and die for the Imperium of Man, cannot live for it, nor may he live because of it++
++End of Line+
>>77472602
see
>>77471164
>>77472619
A Militia is not the national guard or any other government force. A Militia, by definition, is a civilian army of the people.
>>77472709
>He who cannot fight and die for the Imperium of Man, cannot live for it, nor may he live because of it
well said brother
>>77472777
Trips of truth
>>77472709
;_;7 The emperor protect brother
>>77462072
>useless
Only to retards who can't into grammar
The seperate sentences would read
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state shall not be infringed
The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
Public schools have retarded the population so badly that nobody understands how a compound sentence works
>>77460514
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4zE0K22zH8
Trashman explains it perfectly
>>77472619
If anything, government infringement of the right to keep and bear arms by the people actually deregulates? disregulates? the militia's ability to secure a free State.
>id est, gun control is double unconstitutional
And note that State is capitalized and singular, they were talking about the State of Man under Nature's Law, a "Free and Natural State (of Being)", not a division of the continental landmass that composes the Union of the Federal Republic of American States.
Or at least it suddenly strikes me as being able to be interpreted as such.
>>77464585
They intentionally worded it broadly and vague, just as they had with all other amendments, so as to leave interpretation up to the judiciary. You don't know anything about the drafting of the Constitution.
>>77460514
>We all agree that the Second Amendment was worded poorly by 2016 standards.
No. We don't. They wrote it quite clearly. The fact that there are people too stupid to read properly is not a valid reason to rewrite it.
>>77460514
It ain't hard
>We all agree
Stopped reading right there.
IMO Vermont had a better version than the feds.
"That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State--and as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military should be kept under strict subordination to and governed by the civil power."
>>77460514
>provided they
You lost me right there. Rights have no provisions attached.
What you are saying makes as much sense as "you have free speech, provided you only agree with the government."
>>77461986
>Rights
>License
Britbong, I'm sorry your country is so bad.
>>77460905
You going to shoot this out of the sky with your AR-15 faggot?
>>77460514
Nice bait faggot, also
GUNS FOR EVERYBODY SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>77474671
Funny enough, I bought an old pamphlet on combating hostile CAS with small arms.
tl;dr it involves pointing the the vehicle's general direction and path of travel and firing with every gun in the 'toon until it goes down or gives up on another pass.
>>77460514
I tried, please rate:
>A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
isn't it beautiful?
>>77474671
We've gone over this a million times.
Who fled from Afghanistan because it was too much trouble to deal with AKs in mud huts?
Who lost a war of political will?
The United States. Will all the drones and tanks, if you can't win the political war, then you're fucked.
Remember all the civilian deaths in Iraq and how well those went over? Imagine they're the people next door.
>>77474671
>assuming the guy at the joystick is a pinko faggot that supports suppressing the inalienable rights of his fellow citizens
WEW
>>77474824
How are you going ro shoot at it if you can't see it you retarded faggot?
>>77474671
No, but I will fuck up the entry team breaking down my door with out a warrant at 3am to drag me off, which will make the rest of them think twice before going to my neighbors house, especially if they have to worry about that threat at every door.
>>77474671
In the terrifying event that the US government goes after gun owners with the military because they want to protect the status quo from those gun owners, then YES I want my fucking AR-15 and I hope all my neighbors have one too.
Congratulations, you just outlined THE fundamental reason for the 2nd ammendment,.
>>77475065
Yeah, they definitely think twice about shooting you and your nigger family now don't they? Stupid fucking animals.
>>77474993
How are they going to shoot me if they can't lock on to my mylar insulated ghille suit thermally or visually, you double-faggot?
>>77460514
Statistics on Gun Control and Gun Violence:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hyQDQPEsrs
Watch that ^ and shut up
SAGE ALL SHILL POST
>>77460514
you could also own warships
thread is over i suppose
byebye then
>>77474671
>threatening American citizens with drone strikes is somehow supposed to convince them to lay down arms
>>77475143
Sure, go on over to your nearest military base with your pea shooter and take them on. Let's see, where to start? Fort Bragg? Fort Knox? How's about starting with the Marines? Go on over to Camp Lejeune and start a revolution. See how that works out for you faggot.
>>77475162
Most likely they won't think twice. I actually doubt they care about me in the slightest. They will care about their friend dying next to them as they are breaking into my house. And they will care about getting shot at the next house.
After a several houses where they get shot by otherwise law abiding citizens who otherwise would pose no threat, find a me a cop who will volunteer for the job of going in first to the next house.
>>77468154
Here is my version: Kill yourself
>>77475323
You will find the projected desertion rate for the US military is upwards of 70% in the event of a left-wing presidency.
You're a fucking retard if you think anyone will be raiding bases without proper military hardware already on hand. Ambushes, IEDs and assassinations all day and night, faggot.
How to beat the US military has been demonstrated clearly.
>>77475323
Don't confuse the military with the government. The military is more us than them. A military coup is far more likely if orders are given to shoot at American citizens than orders being followed. As a matter of fact, it's a gaurantee.
>>77475612
until it's all women and gays, then they'll fucking put a bullet in you and cry about how you made them do it
>>77475426
Implying you could do anything after a few flash bangs were thrown into your house and they shot your dog and brand new nigger baby as they forced their way into your house as you screamed from the burning of your mucus membranes from the tear gas grenade they popped into your bedroom. You would be screaming for mercy right before they tazered you to death then fucked your wife as you convulse on the floor.
>>77460514
"We all agree that the Second Amendment was worded poorly by 2016 standards"
No, it wasn't.
Every yank should have an AR 15.
Like any Yank had a brown bess.
You must have the ability to fight the government, if necessary.
This was the intention, and no, us foreigners are either ignorant, or jealous.
Protect your right yanks, much love.
>>77475663
"Dont confuse the military with the government."
I hope this is bait.
>any type of handheld weapon
When can I buy my handheld mini-nuke launcher?
>>77468921
Hopefully someone stomps your face in you piece of shit.
>>77474993
Drones need a lot of resources, a militia can disable its supply, and take out drone bases.
>>77475771
They'll fucking cry about how heavy their scary gun is and collapse under their ruck and armor.
>>77474671
Positive contact!
https://youtu.be/oq-ROYgCrEU
Anti gun shill detected.
>>77460514
All Americans are allowed access to any arms the United States armed forces does. The right to bear arms shall not be impeded.
>>77475861
The government gives the orders. The military carries out those orders.
But remember, in the end, it's not the generals that really control the boots on the ground, it's the sergeants.
>>77471164
>A armed civilian population, properly equipped and separate from the US military, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
That is a good definition but I would try to make it sound less legalese:
A armed civilian population, properly equipped and separate from the US military, IS necessary to the security of a free State. THEREFORE the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
That seems ok to me.
>>77460514
I'll rewrite it so that the Average American can understand:
>AYO HOL UP N LISTN 4 A WHILE K? LOOK WE GOT DEM STREETZ CLEAN FROM DEM MOFUCKIN BRITZ NIGGA NAMEEN? KAY SO LISTN WE NEED LIEJ A SISTEM TWO KEEP OUR GATZ BY US SIDEZ NAMEEN?
>SO I PROPOSIZZA A MOFUCKIN PRIVILIZZA TO OWN DAT AK, MAH NIGGA!
>AIT. OKAYYYY???? OH YE. DIS SHIT? DIS AINT BE INFRINGED MAH NIGG YA DIGG? AIN NOBODY BUT GOD ALMIGHTY B TAKIN MY GAT, FOOL!
>SIGNED: GEORGE "MANDINGO PU$$YCRUSHA" WASHTOUNH AND IZ NIGGUHZ INDA WHITE HOUS, Anno Domini 1776.
>>77477461
I'mma gonna' stop you right there, but James Madison was the greatest Constitution writer of all time.
>>77460514
I have no problem with making transfers mandatory and no fly no buy
But they need to fix the no fly list, and they need to add exemptions for certain private transfers like inheritance after death. Out in California people have been having shit swept out from under them with the state confiscating parents' guns instead of their children inheriting them because of mandatory transfers.
>>77461160
dumbfuck generation is currently ending the generational gap. can't wait till you die. (fuck millennials)
>>77464776
Is this what you really believe? I promise, SSRIs, diazepam, and suboxone aren't a Jewish scam.
>>77460514
It remains as is.
Go to another country that has gun control if you don't like the American way.
>>77478172
No fly no buy turns it from a constitutionally protected right to beaucratically controlled allowance.
>>77475323
No one is suggesting a preemptive strike on anything, you absolute spineless piece of shit. There is no way the .gov could stand against an armed rebellion, which is CALLED FOR in the USC if necessary to protect our rights.
Go get killed.
>>77460514
SAGE
>>77460514
>A well regulated PARTY, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people OF SOUND MIND to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Just a start.
"The right of the American people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed under ANY circumstance"
I agree there needs to be something but also a lift on a bunch of other things. I just don't know what. It's a complicated issue.
>>77464585
>>one post by this id
Well no shit, faggot. It's the beginning of the thread.
Stop caring about what foreigners think about your shit.
In order to keep the federal government from growing out of control and establishing unconstitutional things like a central bank, income tax or suspending of habeus corpus, all Americans have the right to own any and all weapons of any kind, and stockpile said weapons to fight an overreaching and oppressive totalitarian regime.
How's that, /pol/acks?
>>77474671
This is the best argument to INCREASE rights to include AA missiles, tanks etc. If the government has these huge death machines then the people should have the ability to destroy them.
>>77481308
Get some then pussy ass Nigga. Start with your police department faggot.
>>77460514
quit your shilling you noguns piece of liberal shit, you should do a daily check on your head before you post anything
the existing wording is clear as day
>>77481452
Police department? Go shag another homeless dude, maggot.
saged again
>>77483500
You couldn't handle Andy and Barney at your local Sheriff's Dept much less anything else you ignorant mouth breathing inbred hillbilly faggot.
>>77460514
>We all agree
Here we go.
