>LATEST POLL RESULTS
EU referendum poll:
Remain: 44% (+1)
Leave: 49% (+1)
(ICM, online / 10 - 13 Jun)
EU referendum poll:
Remain: 39% (-3)
Leave: 46% (+3)
(YouGov, online / 12 - 13 Jun)
EU referendum poll:
Remain: 40% (-1)
Leave: 47% (+4)
(via TNS, online)
EU referendum poll:
Remain: 45% (+3)
Leave: 50% (+5)
(ICM, phone / 10 - 13 Jun)
EU referendum poll:
Remain: 47%
Leave: 53%
(ICM, both online and phone / 10 - 13 June)
>PETER HITCHENS
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3637246/PETER-HITCHENS-British-people-risen-unleash-chaos.html
>DANIEL HANNON
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/six-best-reasons-vote-leave/
>JACOB REES-MOGG
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3614626/JACOB-REES-MOGG-Yes-victory-bloody-final.html
>FIRST BRITAIN, THEN THE WORLD
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/06/farage-brexit-domino-disintegration/
>BETSFAIR ODDS PAGE
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.118739911
>THREAD THEMES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zCGQV_aJME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBz6y6ZrmD8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2KA5iyUUdw
>BREXIT: THE MOVIE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0
>PAXMAN IN BRUSSELS: WHO REALLY RUNS US?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pGOzhhOAF8
>ARE NIGE RETROSPECTIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UCm6LNj7P0
>BREXIT: FACTS NOT FEAR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gILTIDr4Ra8
>POLLTRACKERS/ODDSCHECKER
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum
https://twitter.com/britainelects
https://yougov.co.uk/turnout-o-meter/
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/eu-referendum/referendum-on-eu-membership-result
>CAMPAIGN ORGANISATIONS
http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/organise
http://leave.eu/
http://grassrootsout.co.uk/join-us
http://www.ukip.org/volunteer
http://conservativesforbritain.org/sign-up/
http://www.labourleave.org/
VOTE OUT
>>77449333
>one post
NO SURVIVORS
No Pole is going to pay more to fly to UK now. Brits just became the plumbers of Europe (not UE).
Keep a close eye!
A professional forum troller is only one thread away!
New polls at half 12 today
>>77448922
No, you don't undersand, he has a contract by 2019. Brexit won't happen overnight, even transferring positions inside the parliament will take a year.
Nigel Farage will keep his job.
About the pension - maybe not, but that's another case anyway.
Your hero is a fraud. Tell me, he seems to care about fishermen a lot, how come he has been a part of the fisheries committee and has never once even tried to argue the case for Britain?
And dont go "but its useless". If he didn't even try its not a case of it being useless, its a case of him not trying. If he tried and failed, then its useless.
Listening to Boris Johnson - I can MAYBE understand. But actually liking Farage and thinking he has a plan, makes sense, knows what he is doing and cares about Britain - that I cannot understand.
>>77449676
Come on at least have consistency, he's attended ONE of the meetings. Not none.
BTFO SHILL
>>77449333
New polls when?
TNS (telephone, 14-15 Jun)
Remain 51%
Leave 45%
Undecided 4%
>>77449676
Junker, m8, your proxy fell off.
>>77449676
>That flag
Fuck off Juncker
>>77449772
I have never seen Farage ever in the last 4 years in any fisheries meeting.
Maybe he went into one, they give free water and used to give coffee and tea (even milk in the afternoon) in the previous term, I used to sneak into the regional development committee to drink tea peacefully since there was almost no one there anyway.
Reminder, pic is what the EU wants:
Save our Karens and British Waifus.
>>77449333
Britain NO
Why are Brexit supporters so racist?
>>77449884
>They give free water
You have to pay for water in Europe? What the fuck?
>>77449676
He doesn't recognise the authority of the EU
Not that hard to get your thick skull around
>>77449676
>fisheries committee
Does not decide EU fisheries policy. That is done by national governments. The EU parliament has no power whatsoever.
>>77449924
Who dis? She got Dutch writing as a tat, I want her babies
>>77449937
>>77449937
Bottles of water la, bottles.
Mfw questiontime has Bob geldof on tonight.
I don't think I can bare to watch
>>77449961
So how does it make sense to get paid to work in the fisheries committee, never even show up and then claim what the committee did is bad for Britain?
He may have a good position in not liking the EU, sure, but he has no competence, no plan and no idea. Nor has he done anything ti prove me otherwise.
>>77450016
Still, nothing special.
>>77450101
In Paris was like 3-4 euros for a small bottle of water (0,5L)
>new ipsos poll at 12:30 who successfully predicted the scottish referendum
Hold me.
>>77450156
You should have bombed them.
They deserve to be bombed for such a crime.
>>77449937
>You have to pay for water in Europe? What the fuck?
Yes anon. Surprisingly mummy does actually have to pay the water bill even here.
>>77450098
And how the hell is this relevant to anything, you autist? Farage isn't even an MP.
>>77449991
what does the writing say?
>>77450142
He who dares wins, right Rodney?
;_;
>>77450079
Geldof has got to be a Leave plant.
How many bongs until next poll?
>>77449963
But thats wrong, the parliament has codecision - on some issues it had equal power to governments.
Which is ridiculous in itself, as parliament is largely incompetent and a farce. Which is also one of your arguments, isnt it?
Doesnt your argument of its bad influencr fall if you say it has no influence?
Choose lad, either Farage is a lazy bum with no idea or parliament is not actually dangerously incompetent and a clear sign of the crap of the EU.
>>77450160
where can i see it?
>>77449781
half twelve apparently, which is about 3 and a half hours since you're in a wackyland time zone
>>77449884
>If you don't physically attend something you don't support it
You're actually a fucking moron.
Brit became Korwin Mikke tier. Hitler dindunuffin huh lads?
>>77450217
He is an MEP.
On the fisheries committee.
That has codecision on fisheries.
>>77450300
Iirc there were a record 8000 amendments to the fisheries policy.
I might be able to dig them up, how confident are you though that you will find Farage's name there?
>>77450356
What are its powers?
All well and good in title, but in practice if it can't change anything then attendance is rather pointless
>>77450356
I'm still waiting to hear how that's in any way, shape or form relevant to his stances.
>>77450281
Sorry was this the anti democratic organisation that hasn't published accounts in the last twenty years?
Eat shit and die.
>>77450294
>where can i see it?
Their site has already crashed so Twitter will have to do: https://twitter.com/IpsosMORI
>>77450281
>The unelected EU Parliament has as much power as the elected British Parliament
You just fell for the bait.
>>77450211
But it's nothing big. Him adding 'it's free' suggests that water costs as much as a chocolate in Euroland.
>>77450356
It's useless for him to be part of because all the other members will disagree with him trying to make a good deal for Britain and British fishers. Also, the EU parl. will dismiss his ideas.
>>77450397
How confident are you that we will Remain?
>>77449676
>1600s, the English: "Lets go and colonise India!"
> "We need a plan", decried the doubters.
> "Just send a few ships, it'll be fine."
> India colonised
The British don't need details right now, the details come after a decision.
>>77450412
Codecison on certain legislation.
Basically the Commission drafts legislation and usually the national governments talk it over and decide.
Sometimes, as was in fisheries, parliament takes an equal role and Council debates with them on an equal ground after the member states agree among themselves.
It is a dangerous precedent that gives an incompetent and democratically unaccountable parliament retarded amounts of power.
It also means Farage is a lazy incompetent bum.
>>77450397
He was probably doing greater work, like securing a referendum by pressuring the UK government, and saving our nation by getting us out of the failed political project that is the EU.
Anyway, when is the next 1.5M boatniggers due in, and should Greece be getting another bail-out about now?
>The Spectator Podcast: The Spectator back Brexit
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/06/spectator-podcast-spectator-backs-brexit/
>>77450497
>It's useless for him to be part of because all the other members will disagree with him trying to make a good deal for Britain and British fishers. Also, the EU parl. will dismiss his ideas.
Has he tried?
If yes, I agree and withdraw.
If no, you are wrong.
2 new polls due later today boys - Survation and Ipsos Mori
>>77450585
Whoa, I've never seen an EU flag on here before.
>>77450632
Yes, he went to one meeting to see what it's all about then he left because he realised it was just a sham.
>>77450680
Funny coincidence, eh?
>>77450585
>codecision
From what I've read thats basically nothing more than advising, and can be told to fuck off entirely at will.
Don't blame him for not turning up.
>>77450585
>usually the national governments talk it over and decide
>talk it over
>usually
All the power rests with national governments. The EU fisheries committees can do absolutely nothing without prior approval from member states. The EU fisheries committees are literally just people sitting around chatting about fish.
>>77450585
You are a nasty little prick.
Not one EU fuck head has achieved half what Farage has. Your desperate shilling is losing you votes and your pretentious and patronising tone is just foremost of many reasons your beloved fuck up of a suits national bukkake will soon crumble.
It doesn't stop with Brexit soon. Anglos coming to fuck your shit up. get prepped eurocuck.
ANGLOSPHERE WILL RISE
BREIXT BOYS
>banning of drift nets when ours are smaller
>destroyed local fishing industries to allow Spain in
>quota hopping continuing despite - surprise, surprise - empty promises of reform
>giving Spain a massive % in subsidies so they were able to expand and modernise unfairly
How was it good again for us specifically? Fuck your fishing commisson
>>77450481
where do you go to find where & when all the polls will be coming out?
>>77450610
So he has done nothing substantial and still has no idea or competence beyond "leave the EU"?
To answer your second question - soon, Turkey is already backing out of the agreement. As soon as october comes and we cant give them visas, we get 3 million "boatniggers" immediately.
And Greece wont get anything more, they have completely crashed and even Germany have realized it. Now Germany has raised its hands and is refusing to clean its mess. Waiting for Greece to suffocate and die.
>>77450632
>Have to grovel to get a deal
Or we can just leave
>>77450939
>So he has done nothing substantial
WEW LAD
Is it happening?
https://twitter.com/michaelsavage/status/743353504694050816
>>77450945
>alan johnson
nothing credible has ever come out of this mans mouth concerning the EU
>>77450700
Did he try to do anything?
Submit an amendment, draft a report?
>>77450717
>from what I've heard
From what I've heard your mother is a prostitute.
Fortunately i have cold hard proof that codecision gives parliament actual power.
By codecison unless parliament agrees on legislation it CANNOT PASS.
Why are you arguing this, it literally supports your side.
>>77450939
>Turkey is already backing out of the agreement
The migrant agreement is an irrelevance. Turkey do not meet any of the criteria in terms of human rights, a free press or the treatment of women and gays. Turkey are far worse than they were in 2004, the EU are still about to let Turkey in.
The EU want the cheap labour. Albanians, Turks, Kosovans and Serbs can provide that.
>>77450939
>So he has done nothing substantial
Yes, except being the one sole reason Brexit even made it this far.
Eat a dick, Schultz.
Fuck the EU, we're leaving.
>>77451077
>From what I've heard your mother is a prostitute.
GUESS I'M NOW A #REMAINTRAIN
>>77450945
how come "leave" looks like what I had picture british people to look, while leave looks like people who don't belong there
really makes you think... huh
>>77450861
>consistently try to explain things
>never even tried to campaign for remain
>even said I'm ok with leave
>get endlessly insulted and shit
Yeh, what a nasty little prick I am, huh?
>>77451053
It's annoying because he seems like a fairly reasonable bloke in general, but he talks utter shite on the EU
>>77451165
wtf that id
>>77450752
Co.
Decision.
>>77451077
>Did he try to do anything?
He's been campaigning for the fishing industry for years you pleb.
The eu paliament is a shit show and don't make any laws.
>>77451202
Just strawman my shit senpai.
Our Nige, the Pussy slayer .
>>77451077
>from what I've heard
Why are you greentexting something I didn't say?
I said read. Not hearsay.
Regardless, sorry that I touched a nerve of your shitty institution enough to call my mother a whore, really convinced me there.
>>77451017
Its the direction the polls are going yes .Don't know if its one of the polls that is scheduled to come out today tho .been posted today tho so it looks up to date
>>77451109
The agreement hides another informal agreement - Turkey has 3 million refugees ready to be sent into the EU. As long as we are good little lapdogs, they die off slowly in Turkey. When we tell Turkey to fuck off, they are unleashed.
The agreement is symbolic of this.
>>77450945
Nicky Morgan
>Tranny
Alan Johnson
>WHY AREN'T YOU LISTENING TO ME?
Bob Geldof
>
Louise Mensch
>Wew lad
Tom Harris
>Scottish and Labour for Leave. You can't harry the Harris
Ruth Lea
>One of the most intelligent women in the UK
Which town or city is it in? Will the audience be as based as last week?
>>77449921
They won't pay your denbts
>>77451077
>Submit an amendment, draft a report?
No, he spoke up about the sham, which is the EU, and the charlatans and panjandrums which are the eurocrats.
Why would he do submit a report to the EU about the EU being a sham and a horrid prank? Idiot.
Would you submit a report about a department of the USSR to Stalin? No, because you'd get shot.
>>77451017
Suspicious of early polls since the BGM fake the other day
>>77450939
I'm convinced, you got my vote!
>>77451428
York
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
(I think they got something wrong, the source seems official, I'm not too sure of the swings, but fuck it WE WON)
What's hilarious about the so-called "Brexit" is that if the UK wants to get out and have access to the common market like Norway they will have to accept the immigration laws of the EU just like Norway does. Norway pays almost the same amount of money per capita to the EU as the UK does. If the UK votes out they will still have to pay the EU and accept their rules while not having any say on what happens in Europe.
>>77450632
You are talking about fine details and minutiae of things we don't want to be a part of.
Get your head round the big picture. We're leaving now fuck off.
>>77451361
Heavily missing the point, which was just <citation needed>
But since you read: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/aboutparliament/en/20150201PVL00008/The-Lisbon-Treaty
>>77451388
Nope, it's the real deal
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-poll-most-brits-do-want-to-leave-one-week-to-go-before-eu-referendum-vote-a3273141.html
>>77451423
>Turkey has 3 million refugees ready to be sent into the EU
And 20 million Kurds with valid asylum claims, who can all enter the EU without a visa on July 1st.
>>77451423
where do you live? how do you get that flag?
>>77451573
>Almost the same per capita
if we paid what Norway does per capita we'd only pay £6bn instead of £10bn
>>77451462
>he spoke
My point exactly.
>you'd get shot
Are you...are you saying Farage would get shot if he tried to defend British fisheries in the EU?
>>77451502
Nice. The one thing I know about Yorkshiremen is that they are cynical, stubborn and don't like being threatened.
I'm sure the scare campaign from the last few weeks has turned them all into leavers.
>>77451610
>The European Parliament may approve or reject a legislative proposal, or propose amendments to it. The Council is not legally obliged to take account of Parliament's opinion but in line with the case-law of the Court of Justice, it must not take a decision without having received it.
Maybe I'm just a pleb at this, but that certainly sounds a lot to me like "can be told to fuck off at will"
>>77451493
I'm not really about any vote and have repeatedly said I'm ok with leave and am also consistently mentioning the crap of the EU, but ok, whatever floats your boat.
>>77451692
wouldn't put it past the EU desu
already someone tried to kill him by messing with his car wheels
>>77451077
>yo momma
nice one
>>77450933
The BBC poll tracker mentions when new polls are coming up.
It may have been leaked early this morning already but I'm not sure: https://twitter.com/skydata/status/743353126883758080
>>77451555
there is a poll due from ipsos mori today so it could be real
>>77451748
I'm /Yorkshire/
The MP for York is (I think) Rishi, and he's for Leave
Only trouble might be that it's a major city and we know what the inhabitants of major cities are likely
>>77451628
Lets not even get started there...
The 20 million kurds are better than the dozens of millions of other turks we will get.
>>77451628
Im on my phone on the wifi of the parliament in Brussels.
>>77450016
>Europeans can't drink tap water
What a third world continent.
>>77451875
pictures?
>>77451555
Fake account lad, think I've read that the poll comes out at 12:30
>>77451750
That is not codecision. There are several procedures, one is counselling, which is the one you quoted.
Another is codecision. Look under "Lisbon treaty", its there.
>>77451854
"useful idiots" "low information voters"
>>77451875
You're probably not a fan of Nigel Farage, I'd imagine? Why have you never sent him a letter demanding his resignation, or walked up to his front door and uppercut his chin? Is it maybe because it'd be pointless?
Upwards of 90% of those involved in the fishing industry support Brexit. It's the one demographic that is the most unanimous on the subject, from either side.
>>77451573
lolz the domino effect means the entire EU is done anyway
seen this lads? not sure how reliable but looks cool
>>77451875
Is the reason you're being so obvious because you know you're going to be out of a job soon?
>>77451573
the EU doesnt need norway the way it NEEDS the UK cant really compare the two
>>77451573
Norway has a lot less bargaining power on the table than one of the largest economic powers in the EU does.
I'm not sure how much trade Norway does with the EU as a percentage of its export, but the UK isn't nearly as reliant on it as people seem to think, either.
>>77452025
He is never in parliament.
I wanted to laugh in his face after restrictions fell in 2014, but he has literally not shown up.
He comes to Strasbourg cause you have to vote to get your salary, but he only shows up for the vote and then one random debate to make a youtube video.
I know the fishing thing, but its another problem - we had overfishing. There is still overfishing outside the EU and to compete we had to and have to overfish. We chose not to, to preserve fish for the future.
This fucked fishers. It cannot not fuck them.
Unfortunately when you lose your job you rightfully won't care if three kids will later have your job.
>>77451936
Oh shit, I take it back
https://twitter.com/benatipsosmori/status/743352748653973505
>Ben Page, Ipsos MORI
@benatipsosmori
Our latest - LEAVE now at 53%
>>77452138
That just linguistic, it's a referendum on leaving, not staying
>>77451937
The description he just quoted is the EU's description of the codecision procedure. Amazingly, the EU Parliament acting as an advisory body to the Council is what passes for 'ordinary' in the EU. What a profoundly democratic system.
>>77449884
I wouldn't waste my time attending a meeting at the EU either.
>>77452138
>all london is searching leave
>>77451573
here's a revelation fro you not-America: EU != rest of the world.
We're a consumer nation. Countries are going to want to sell to us. Countries plural. That breeds competition. Regardless how anyone dresses up he figure - a hell of a lot of money that usually goes into Europe is going to be available one way or another. That's an attractive proposition.
>>77452234
Fair point that.
>>77451759
What happens to you when we crash this union with no survivors?
>>77452142
I will actually probably get a higher position if the UK leaves.
Yesterday I was told there are already talks of who takes the good positions from the Brits if they leave and I might get a 5 figure one. So pretty hyped you're leaving.
>>77452222
Good stuff.
>>77452374
You'd be remembered as heroes who helped save Europe from Germany for the third time
>>77452217
>He is never in parliament.
You don't seem to be comprehending my central point, so I'll say it again.
You're probably not a fan of Nigel Farage, I'd imagine? Why have you never sent him a letter demanding his resignation, or walked up to his front door and uppercut his chin? Is it maybe because it'd be pointless? Nigel Farage sitting at an EU committee is not going to change a damn thing, so why would he—or any other hard-line Euroskeptic—bother?
>>77452240
Sigh
>In the adoption of legislative acts, a distinction is made between the ordinary legislative procedure (codecision), which puts Parliament on an equal footing with the Council, and the special legislative procedures, which apply only in specific cases where Parliament has only a consultative role.
On certain questions (e.g. taxation) the European Parliament gives only an advisory opinion (the 'consultation procedure').
From the source i linked.
>>77452379
What are your responsibilities in the EU?
>I'm the president of the commission
Oh shit, lads
Look what I just spotted
>>77452379
Wouldn't call 30 pieces of silver "5 figure", and eh.
Probably won't last all that long.
>>77450945
literally who: the panel
>>77451791
fuck
>>77449451
First post only post
>>77452379
wyh you urope flag? are you in brussels? who are you? do you have some eu job?
>>77452379
Ah good for you lad, make the most of the tax payers money desu.
You been down the EU shopping centre recently? Great deals for MEPs there.
>>77452510
nice, where was it?
>>77452466
I am not a British citizen so he is not my representative.
He is a member of the fisheries committee so fisheries are his area of work.
>>77452374
Civil unrest. But you're a big guy, you'll survive it.
>>77452379
You're fucked. The EU has destroyed Europe making it the most stagnant degenerate area on Earth. It's going to collapse and I'm so ecstatic at that prospect!
>>77452575
Newport city centre
>>77451573
What this lad here said >>77452215
We snowniggers are too irrelevant to negotiate a good deal. We have to accept this shit or lose a shit ton of trade. Basically blackmailed into accepting it.
Brits are way more important to the EU and have real leverage with which they can negotiate. If anything brits can blackmail the EU instead since the EU is already the sick man of the world and will bleed bad if Brits don't just rolll over like we did.
>>77452501
This is the EU's description of the codecision procedure. If you count closely, you'll notice that it has 284/284 characters in common with the description that was already posted. Why are you trying to sow misinformation?
>>77451053
How dare you, that man was a postman
I missed what happened, what the fuck was Geldof doing on the Thames?
Was he seriously riding on some luxurious yacht, flipping off fishermen?
>>77452513
Well I'm trying to get a deal on a book I wrote so hopefully I'm out of this hellhole soon.
But a 5 figure job would help me clear the lease on the car my wife crashed, so yeh.
>>77452526
On parliament wifi, yes, yes
>>77452541
I'm not a MEP.
I am confident I work adequatelly for the taxpayers money.
Many people do not.
>>77449884
How have you got that flag?
Juncker is that you?
>>77452519
Tom Harris was on Daily Politics recently and did well, he may turn more Labour supporters to our side. Wasn't Ruth Lea in the Telegraph debate? I seem to remember her being less autistically libertarian than Andrea Leadsom so hopefully she'll come over better to undecideds.
>>77452693
Ordinary legislative procedure is the codecision. Consultation is another procedure.
The parliament website is not very good.
Want me to link the lisbon treaty, if you wanna read?
https://twitter.com/skydata/status/743353126883758080
>10 POINT SWING
>>77452818
Fiheries man?
>>77451573
The EEA Agreement does not cover the following EU policies: common agriculture and fisheries policies; customs union; common trade policy; common foreign and security policy; justice and home affairs; direct and indirect taxation; or economic and monetary union.
http://www.efta.int/eea/eea-agreement/eea-basic-features#5
>>77452764
You get that flag if you post from certain Android devices. Fuck knows why.
>>77450945
Mensch is the smartest person on that panel by a country mile didn't know she was leave.
>>77452903
Really? I thought it was cause I was on parliament wifi.
>>77450223
'The only one I trust'. I'm not sure about the last word because it's half hidden under her hair.
>>77452903
He's using it intentionally because everyone made fun of him when he had a Belgian flag and it hurt his feelings.
>>77452848
>EU shilling in full force today
>See this
>>77452958
do many people at eu think brexit is likely?
>>77452995
No wonder he's gone from anti-farage posting to straight up blogposting lmao
CRASHING THIS UNION
>>77451555
I got so excited, I hope this is real
>>77452958
That's what I heard. There's probably an area around Brussels where you get it too.
>>77452995
>EU shilling
It's a swing to leave
Brexit BTFO
>>77452917
she's also a nasty piece of work, hopefully she doesn't turn the audience off tonight
>>77453076
Remain BTFO
>>77453002
No, only Labour is starting to realize it.
People here dont really have any grasp of reality.
That said, it doesnt matter THAT much to us. It won't change much on EU level. We will have a slightly lower budget and have to cut posts cause we have few UK civil servants, since we pay less than UK does.
>>77453076
>Rothschild
It writes itself.
>>77453076
>(((Rothschild)))
>>77452724
Did you write the book whilst you were meant to be working fisheries man?
>>77453076
>Jacob rothschild
>>77452958
..and this is why we need out.
If you're being paid to be in a parliament, do some fucking work instead of shitposting on a Libyan Habedashery Image site.
7 minutes ago lads
>>77453153
Yes
Outside the big regulation we dont do much
>>77451573
Might be correct, and in short term not much will change.
But... not having a say is actually a good thing. Because who do you think has a say now, Britain by extension of politicians that fight for British interest? Nope. Politicians of countries that are not Germany sell out their national interest for their own career in Europe. Exit means that the British politicians don't have a natural career path into EU politics and this will mean they have less incentive to fuck over their own country to be rewarded with EU jobs afterwards.
Also the UK has a much bigger economy and more trade outside of the EU than Norway, and a much stronger negotiating postion than them.
>>77453062
Meant on /pol/ there's a lot of people telling us to remain or one guy with a lot of different proxies.
Guess the people paying them must be panicking with a week left and the polls saying leave.
>>77452724
>I am confident I work adequatelly for the taxpayers money.
You've been shitposting and shilling on Brit/pol/ for the last three days while at work.
>>77453196
>actually believing this guy
>>77453126
>People here don't really have any grasp of reality.
>t. EU civil servant
What a comforting thought.
>>77453222
Reminder these guys predicted the Scottish referendum result correctly 1 week before the vote.
>>77453196
>implying parliament does much actual work
Parliament mostly fucks up already fucked up stuff.
It has a lot of power, stupidly enough, but doesn't do much to warrant the fuckhuge army of people it has.
Cut MEPs in half and they still wont have enough work to go around.
>>77452848
Is that the poll that predicted the Scottish referendum?
>>77453076
>Rothschild
From across the pond, I hope you boys get to leave
You're one of the few countries I respect and I hope you are awarded the opportunity to be as great as you can be, and that will only happen if you get the FUCK OUT
>>77451219
yea got an eu flag, brit bongs don't like the eu right now
>>77452585
You didn't get his point, did you?
You cannot the EU from the inside and Nigel knows this very well of this, thus rather than pointlessly attending the fisheries committee, he prefers to use that energy to campaign Britain to leave the EU. Got it?
>tl;dr
The common fisheries policy couldn't be removed unless you leave the EU, thus Nigel wants Britain to leave the EU.
>>77453291
>actually thinking it's farfetched that staff in a governemental european building spend work hours on the internet
>>77453196
You are right. I am now on the #RemainTrain
>>77453222
That's a fucking massive swing, last IPSOS Mori poll had 11 point remain lead
>>77453278
And I have consistently admitted our uselessness.
>>77453293
Oh Labour now realize. There is a hush around their offices. One month ago it was all "yeh, we gotta campaign, no big deal, we will win hard anyway", now its just "shit got real"
>>77453330
You're making a great case for leave lol
>>77453330
>Cut MEPs in half and they still wont have enough work to go around.
Living the dream.
Can you link any juicy info/docs?
>>77453335
According to >>77453297 yes
ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN
NEXT STOP OUTSIDE EUROPE
>>77453384
>actually thinking they'd come on 4chan
>Leave EU
>Massive sanctions against Germany
>Enact motion 50 (or whatever its called)
The butthurt would be amazing.
>>77453379
Did he try?
If not, he cannot cleanly say it cannot.
>>77453423
I literally said from the beginning I'm not for remain and am ok with leave.
>>77453196
>If you're being paid to be in a parliament, do some fucking work instead of shitposting on a Libyan Habedashery Image site.
>thinking they do any work outside of finding ways to fuck us up.
Let them all shitpost, its less damaging for the
rest of us.
Do it for him lads. His ghost can finally be at peace.
>>77451219
You have literally suggested that the UK vote to remain so that they can present a list of reforms and then have another referendum (within weeks/months) if those reforms do not happen.
You don't seem to realise that this is our last chance to leave in decades and that a vote to remain will be seen as the matter settled for a generation by our politicians.
>>77453076
And so the fire rises and the King of the Jews awakens from his slumber, who dares enter his domain?
Guise, what have my favourites, Hannan and Rees-Mogg been up to recently?
They better be destroying their opposition with the power of eloquence as I write this.
>>77453499
Do you expect any animosity from colleagues etc if we do leave?
>>77453330
who are u?
>>77453473
...this isn't a secret club where you have to do a special handshake to get in, fuckwit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08Jt1wfkBU
next chant should be FUCK OFF EU
>>77453548
The parliament's cook.
>>77453076
>Rothschild
Name it.
>>77453526
Oh, yes, I want remain and a new treaty. Ideally.
Since that is a pipe dream, I'm ok with leave so we are pushed to a new treaty ourselves.
>>77453538
The Mogg was on the Daily Politics yesterday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLJbtwDP72w
>>77453222
Threaded reminder these guy are one of the few polls that got the Scottish independence referendum right.
>>77453545
Theyd all lose their comfy do nothing high wage jobs if the eu fell apart so yeah I imagen theyd be pissed.
>>77453509
Not for long.
>>77449921
PAY DENBTS TURKISH RAPE BABIES
>>77453584
Your link doesn't go anywhere m8
>>77453330
>Cut MEPs in half and they still won't have enough work to go around.
What is the fucking point of MEPs anyway? They cannot initiate a legislation nor propose to repeal an existing law. The EU is so badly designed and undemocratic, it needs to be taken down.
>>77453623
Well I'm glad you've clarified. You had previously made it sound as if you believe the UK should vote Remain on the 23rd. In such an event, another referendum isn't even a pipedream, it's a literal impossibility.
>>77453623
>I literally said from the beginning I'm not for remain and am ok with leave.
>Oh, yes, I want remain and a new treaty.
>>77453592
Doubt they speak english
>>77453545
Not really, I will miss my brit colleagues though. Some were neat. Labour were largely cunts. I will never forget how some polish jew working for labour sent me an email correcting my english with his "proper british english". Which the official translators then corrected back to my version.
Fuck that guy.
>>77453673
forgot the I at the end
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08Jt1wfkBUI
>>77453584
dead link mate.
is this the 'Fuck off Russia we're England and Wales' video?
ALL EYES ON BONGISTAN
YOU GUYS FUCK THIS UP AND YOU'LL DOOM THE REST OF US
>>77453126
>People here dont really have any grasp of reality.
Does not suprise me .Labour ae having a panic attack tho , they have realised how fucked they are regardless of how the vote goes
>>77453771
you guessed it
>>77453420
>And I have consistently admitted our uselessness.
And now you understand why Farage left the committee. At least he does some work by engaging with the public and giving us this referendum.
>>77453763
>Labour were largely cunts
Some things are universal my friend.
Any juicy EU gossip?
>>77453685
They are just there to make things look democratic.
This is surreal desu good watch
The way it talks about how bad off they are, and comparing that to Zimbabwe now..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S2NKlMW0vc
>>77453499
>Try
Are you fucking retard? Nigel is not even given a chance to reform it since MEP cannot propose a legislation.
Just like the free movement of people between member states, the common fisheries policy is something part of the EU and cannot be negotiated.
>>77453685
They do codecision. In some areas they decide legislation on equal grounds with the national governments. Outside that they do nothing.
>>77453728
I still want remain on the 23rd and a new treaty on the 24th. If no treaty after remain, my second choice is leave. Since no treaty is on the agenda...
>>77453746
Same answer
Let me illustrate -
Are you actually for leave or for bombing the EU?
>>77453659
>Threaded reminder these guy are one of the few polls that got the Scottish independence referendum right.
Did ANYONE get the general election right ?
Even close to it ?
>>77453559
you mean the blowjob I had to give to a neckbeard from /g/ was unnecessary ?
>>77453922
>I still want remain on the 23rd and a new treaty on the 24th. If no treaty after remain, my second choice is leave. Since no treaty is on the agenda...
Haha, well there we go. As I said, that scenario is LITERALLY impossible. With that in mind, you're simply shilling for Remain.
THE ABSOLUTE MADMEN ARE CRASHING THE EU WITH NO SURVIVORS
MAKE THE COMMONWEALTH GREAT AGAIN!
>>77451748
I had hoped it would be somewhere with a fishing industry, like Whitby or Grimsby, so that Geldof got raped with a frozen fish.
York is a student town.
>>77453974
There was a guy on Newsnight last week who got the GE spot on, he was saying that Leave will win unless something dramatic happens.
http://archive.is/tPVXi
>Bad goyim, stay in the EU you don't want sovereignty
>Check author's name
>See this
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/06/opinion/open-up-europe-let-migrants-in.html
>>77449676
>35 posts by this id
The shills are doing the opposite now.
Can someone give me the truthful counterargument against this kikebook video
https://www.kikebook.com/ImagineFaragesFace/videos/602904213220980/
(replace kike with face ofc)
Could get us about 20 votes...
>>77453922
i remember u government man... you were in a thread a while back
>>77453538
I saw Hannan at the Blue Boar Theatre in Oxford yesterday, he was amazing.
>>77453841
He never tried.
He cannot, he is not competent.
>>77453897
On fisheries he had codecision.
He had the power.
>>77453849
Err idk, most meps are drunk, theres a romanian pimp working as a MEP, Berlusconi has a dude here permanenyly employed to provide high quality cocaine on Brussels visits
>>77453989
Unnecessary yes, but good source of protein no doubt.
>>77452217
The fishing laws did not protect shit, all they did was make trawlermen throw back tonnes and tonnes of edible fish every trip because it was not on the quota.
plus the spanish still do what the fuck they like with no consequence.
>>77454004
No, with that in mind im ok with leave.
>>77453877
Have a webm lad
>>77454035
There are always students on QT, but no one is listening to them any more. If some art student SJW tries to place the race card tonight I expect them to get re-soundly booed.
The people really have woken up, I'm starting to believe in Britain.
>>77453989
That's all you had to do? Fuck.
I had to deal with /b/. And not even 2016 /b/... 2008.
>>77454114
Was that you who posted the sunny picture?
Do it for her.
>>77451573
its more about the signal a Brexit would send...
its basically a big lose for Leftists that want to unite the EU to cuck our shit even more up
it could tip off other countries even goverment TV here say in France only around 40% want to stay etc.
Brexit could just the beginning of the end and many here hope exact this
>>77454082
give 1pound get 10pound in return ... nothing fishy here
>>77454196
Sunny epicure?
No wasn't me.
>>77450281
His time is much better spent trying to quit the EU as a whole rather than trying to exert a tiny amount of influence in a committee that may or may not be relevant
>>77453076
((((((((((((((((ROTHSCHILD)))))))))))))))))))))
>>77454168
Did someone ever find the sauce for that?
>>77454153
Then why have you bothered to spend the last 3 days making literally hundreds of posts on Brit/pol/ trying to convince people that the EU is reformable and that the UK could do it if it wanted to? Get back to """""work""""".
>>77450680
There bringing out the big guns first Rothschild now an EU shill that won't even hide
Actually happening
>In a dramatic turnaround since May, some 53 per cent now want to leave and 47 per cent want to stay, excluding don’t knows.
>It is the first time since David Cameron pledged the referendum in January 2013 that Vote Leave have come out ahead in the respected monthly Ipsos MORI telephone survey, which is exclusive to the Evening Standard.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-poll-most-brits-do-want-to-leave-one-week-to-go-before-eu-referendum-vote-a3273141.html
>>77453922
>So MEPs cannot propose a legislation, correct?
>Yes, that's true, but they can vote on a legislation which is proposed by some self-pointed bureaucrats from the EU. MEP do codecision, you know!
European Democracy, everyone.
>>77454116
Well, he's pretty competent at pissing off you fucks, and championing for the British person.
And he has tried, he went to one meeting. But, when he went to the meeting he realised how corrupt the EU was and how useless it was to go to those meetings.
>>77454340
Low grade bank clerk, dishrag etc. Glorious.
I am so proud of you guys
>>77453536
>MFW Britain has started this fire that will consume the globalists agenda forever
>MFW Britain will usher in a new age of enlightenment and justice.
If Britain leaves the E.U, what are the chances the E.U will be broken up within 10 years?
I'd imagine if you had refferendums in many eastern European countries now, they'd vote leave(even though for them it would be economically bad)
>>77454406
Keep praying for us mate, this shit is far from over.
I'm expecting Remain to start making outlandish promises next week.
>>77454116
>Cannot initiate a legislation to get rid of the common fisheries policy
>Nigel has the power
I know you are just a shill, but mate you sound more and more like a retard.
>>77454439
I'm not so sure mate, most of them benefit from the EU, even the working class who travel to Western Europe for work.
>>77454289
I'm specifically talking about fisheries, which is about 5% of the EU. The rest is bullcrap.
>>77454340
>he went to one meeting.
Did he propose any legislation? Or changes?
>>77454439
>many eastern European countries
never mind them, if there a referendum, Greece and Italy would be out tomorrow.
Fuck the EU and its 2 years waiting.
Sadly, corrupt faggots in government will ensure this never happens.,
We need help for the EU to destroy itself.
Come on bongs, VOTE OUT FFS.
PLEASE !
Wait can I vote??
>>77454458
The EU is already bargaining
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36526158
>Cameron fights for no benefits for migrants who aren't working for years
>EU tells him no
>Leave pushes ahead
>EU immediately backtracks and says we can block child benefits only
>Remain will say this is a win for us and that we can get what we want
>>77454571
Not from Australia. You still have to be registered to vote at a UK address.
>>77454547
FFS, I've already told you >>77451462
>>77454519
>I'm not so sure mate, most of them benefit from the EU,
Just mention 50-100k sandniggers, it's all over.
East Euros would rather dig potatoes than take in sandniggers.
Merkel has no idea what she will unleash if she pushes too hard.
>>77453877
RIP Smithy
>>77454571
You didnt fucking register?
ffs ausbro your vote counts!
>>77454547
>MEP cannot propose a legislation to remove the common fisheries policy of the EU
>did...did he propose any change
Jesus, now you are just desperate
>>77454286
i think its this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHnF85dww3M
Quick lads. Need the infopic that explains funding for science via EU. The QT needs to see it. No time to look through thread.
>>77454664
Sorry mate, UK address is required.
>>77454547
Has any comittee ever successfully repealed a piece of eu legislation?
>>77454838
>The EU Parliament being able to overrule the Commission or the Treaties
That's haram
>aussies can vote in the referendum if they live in the UK
>i can't
what bullshit is this, i could vote in the independence referendum and in the scottish parliamentary election but not now?
>>77449333
Fuck it, im going to London on the 23rd, I want to for once in my life witness history.
>>77454767
Pls respond
>>77449528
This image is so wrong, I don't wear a wrist brace. At the highest mouse speeds you barely have to move at all.
My dad says wages are going to go down because they won't be regulated by the eu anymore. Is he right?
>>77454912
Not to alarm you but you're finnish
>>77449333
You do know the referendum isn't legally binding?
If les than 50% of the population turn out to vote, it will be decleared void.
Parliament is sovereign, only Parliament can pass legislation to take us out of the EU.
It will never happen.
>>77454767
You save some billions of pounds by leaving the EU. You can practically fund your science project by yourself with that money.
Remember the EU never "grants" you anything. It is all your tax payers money and the UK is a net contributor.
>>77449676
"When things get serious, you need to lie", eh Jean-Claude
>>77455030
I know, but I live in the UK: I'm just visiting home right now.
>>77455024
Well a tough question -
If companies do go bankrupt from bad trade deals then maybe.
In honesty things will continue as they are but you will see a weaker GBP. So "yes" is the answer.
>>77455024
Supply and demand dictate without an endless supply of labour wages will increase.
>EU fisheries committee shill is still here
How have you not driven him off yet lads
>>77454082
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35943216
For every £1 we pay, we get back about 50p. The idea that EU membership is worth 10x the cost is beyond absurd.
>>77455024
Wages will go up because of less competition from foreign workers. Even the remain campaign has admitted it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12181385/Wages-for-British-workers-will-rise-in-the-event-of-a-Brexit-head-of-in-campaign-says.html
>>77455024
Wages aren't regulated by anything but the market (mininum wage aside). Your father is a moron.
Even remain agree that the restriction of labour influx from the EU will increase wages.
>>77455064
You turn up in ever thread with this Bullshit
Fuck off.
>>77449333
New polls when?
>>77454912
that's because the scots are cucks who don't mind foreigners interfering in their country
>>77455133
Membership gives us access to the single market.
We really do get back billions in revenue from trade.
>>77455164
Literally an hour ago.
6 point lead for Leave on the poll that correctly predicted the Indyref.
>>77455164
Leave leading with Ipsos now, came out today.
New poll from Survation in 1 1/2 hours.
https://www.ig.com/uk/brexit/?CHID=9&SM=TW
>>77455208
We would still trade with them even if we weren't part of the single market, so putting a value on membership is impossible.
>>77455208
The single market isn't a closed shop, anyone can trade with it. The absolute worst case scenario is that we have to trade within WTO rules with a 4% tariff.
>>77452337
>be shitskin invader in London
>huh, these people keep giving me free shit
>guess I'll keep them around
>oh no, millions of other shitskins are pouring in and there's not enough free shit for everyone!
VOTE
L E A V E
E
A
V
E
>>77455064
People would riot if the government turned around and voided and vote to leave. Cameron has dug his own grave here by being so invested In the remain campaign that he can't just ignore a winning vote to leave without looking like he's a bad loser.
Besides, there are enough backbenchers and members of the opposition to call a vote of no confidence if he tries something.
>>77455093
>home
>finnland
Precisely
>>77455024
Utter bollocks. The only wage regulations we have are the minimum wage and the living wage, both of which are set independently by the UK government. Simple supply and demand dictates that if labour is less readily available it will become more expensive.
>>77455164
another one due today from survation
previous survation poll:
Remain: 45%
Leave: 38%
UD: 17%
>>77455208
We are missing out on a shitload of markets purely because the EU says we can't trade with them.
>>77455164
>>77455226
I'm expecting very soon for some "polls" to come out showing a 1 % lead to the remain camp.
That way the remain camp can steal victory and then claim "well the polls showed it was going to happen!" and claim there was no vote-rigging etc.
>>77455145
>Even remain agree that the restriction of labour influx from the EU will increase wages.
If we vote out, more migrants will arrive.
France will remove boarder restrictions allowing migrants to leave French territory more easily. We will have to deal with them on the South Coast of England rather than in Northern France.
>>77454912
>what bullshit is this, i could vote in the independence referendum and in the scottish parliamentary election but not now?
But not in general elections or this referendum because you don't belong to the previously mentioned groups. This really shouldn't be difficult to grasp.
>>77455155
It's a fact.
The 1975 referendum wasn't leagally binding, either.
>>77455379
>France will remove boarder restrictions allowing migrants to leave French territory more easily. We will have to deal with them on the South Coast of England rather than in Northern France.
This is literally not true. It's an empty threat by a socialist politician that had no official backing from the French government.
>>77455024
Apart from the scrapping of working hours directives, minimum wage and general wage laws are not the policy domain of the EU, so no.
>>77455208
>you need a political union in order to trade
The amount of trade between nations is not decided by governments, it is decided by private companies exporting goods and services. The eu export far more to us than we do to them, so it is in the best interests of the eu to secure a good trade deal with the uk. Even with no trade deal we would still trade with the eu, we would just pay tariffs. Likewise eu companies would have to pay tariffs to export to the uk.
>>77455379
or we simply turn them back ?
No longer bound by eu laws
>>77455263
The UK would be under World Trade Organization conventions, that means a 10% tariff on all traded goods with the EU. Currently, there are no tariffs.
>>77455379
The Dover/Calais border policing agreement is between the UK government and the French government and has the sum total of fuck all to do with the EU. Stop lying through your teeth.
>>77455379
>EU flag stops posting
>"Brit" enters the thread shilling for remain
really makes you think
>>77455328
that is such a massive amount of undecideds.. you just know they're all women and they're all going to vote for "the safe option" which means stay. women never take risks, it's why they're behind in everything. they will fuck this up so hard.
>>77455379
It's true that we have an advantage over other having our border control in Calais and there's a CHANCE France would say no more if we left.
BUT
They're French. They can, and will, be easily bribed.
>>77455208
German Exporters Nervous About Brexit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVYHcQzs_PY
German are shitting themselves of a prospect of losing one of their export market.
>Mori predicted the exact results for the Scottish referendum 1 week before
>Mori bring out new poll
>shows leave +6
>7 days before the referendum
>post yfw
>>77455528
And even with those tariffs we still be better off than paying to be part of the club
>>77455528
The eu export more to us than we do to them. It is in their best interests to secure a decent trade deal with the uk
>>77455574
ITS HAPPENING
>>77455528
10% tariff is the absolute worse case scenario, and even if that did happen it'd still pale into insignificance next to the fact that we'd no longer be paying a 10%-40% protectionist premium to trade with literally anywhere else in the world.
>>77455295
>People would riot
Only the minority of the voters who voted to leave would be upset.
This would be the first of a series of referendums, as Boris has already hinted.
We won't leave no matter what the outcome of this vote is.
>Besides, there are enough backbenchers and members of the opposition to call a vote of no confidence if he tries something
70& of MPs want to Remain in the EU. A vote of confidence right now would result in a hung Parliament, a coalition is under no oligation to honour the referendum vote.
Besides, our current Tory Government is illegitimate. It committed fraud to get elected.
>>77455528
Do you think German car manufacturers will want tariffs on their exports to the UK? If the Europhiles try to cut off their nose to spite their face, they will be in for a very rough ride.
>>77455543
it's certainly possible, but at least 30% won't vote at all
>>77455577
>Tariffs
Very unlikely. European countries sell more to the UK than they buy from the UK. Great Britain is not a little country like Greece
>>77455208
Which Norway and Switzerland also have access to, despite neither being a member of the EU.
You can chuck around figures all you want, although just saying billions has the air of that prick on question time last week, but whatever way you look at it, we run at a trade deficit to Europe. (54% import. 46.2% export.)
Europe needs us, more than we need them, even before we discuss the specialised nature of British industry.
As for the wider climate, it may give us access to the "Single Market", but under EU law, we are restricted to EU trade deals. To borrow a phrase from Justin Trudeau, "it's 2016", and the EU still does not have favourable trade deals in place with China or India, which is baffling. Alone, this is a far more workable prospect.
Someone post the EU science funding infographic for that lad I can't find it
Should have saved it.
>>77455339
The EU has negotiated our trade position with "foreign" markets already, on better terms than we could (the EU's size gives it more leverage as a trade bloc).
>>77455791
Thank you for remembering. She is on the cusp.
>>77455818
Can you name some of these foreign markets?
Can you explain to me how it takes YEARS to secure a trade deal from the EU?
>>77455454
>This is literally not true.
Yes, it is true.
Why would an EU police who leaves the EU? Especially if they are illegal immigrants from the Middle East.
France wants to be rid of the illegals, it willl let them travel out of their country straight to the UK, where they will apply for assylum.
>>77455508
>The amount of trade between nations is not decided by governments,
Idiot.
>>77455866
Amazingly, there are countries outside of the EU.
Even if we defaulted to a flat 10% on everything, it would be a net profit for us.
>>77455541
Still here, but got "work"
>>77455518
>turn them bask
Where to?
France?
hahahaha
They don't want to be in France and France is under no obligation to accept them.
>>77455939
>but got "work"
Thank fuck. Just the thought that I am paying for someone to shitpost on /pol/ makes my skin crawl.
>>77455939
lmao fair play
>>77455295
Remember the referenda in other countries about the EU constitution...
>He'll negotiate another deal with the EU for staying in
>Will be pretty much the same with a few superficial concessions
>He will say "this is not what the British people voted against"
>UK will stay in with one foot out of the door like now
>>77455784
Or you can just trade with the commonwealth countries. The EU is a poor man's empire. Britbongs already have a genuine one. Why do you bother with the EU?
>>77454838
ACTA among others
>>77455984
Oh so France can block all migrants coming from the UK but not the other way around?
Don't make me laugh
>>77455714
German companies have already indicated they will have to abide by WTO rules. 10% tariffs for UK products.
>>77455915
Fuck off, shill. It is France policing, not the EU. Empty threats by progressives and socialists to save their Marxist EU project. Won't work.
>>77455703
t. Increasingly nervous man
>>77455915
Where we can tell them to fuck off because they travelled through france and didn't claim assylum there
>>77455984
>yfw Calais crossing border control was negotiated entirely separate from the EU and has nothing to do with it
>>77455784
>Which Norway and Switzerland also have access to, d
They have to pay a premium to access the EU market. And, they have no say in how the market makes decisions or rules.
They also have comparative advantage, we don't.
>>77455915
There is a strait between France and the UK. Surely you are competent enough to secure OWN fucking borders, aren't you?
Or do you need a nanny like the EU to protect your land from the hordes
>>77455939
what kind of work, could you elaborate
>>77455866
>Can you name some of these foreign markets
Yes.
>>77455932
In what way is this statement wrong?
trade deals are decided by governments but trade is generated through private companies exporting goods and services
>>77456162
>They also have comparative advantage, we don't.
fuckin' lel.
If being one of the largest economies in Europe isn't a comparative advantage, I don't know what is.
>>77456199
Thanks!!!
>>77456166
The UK doesn't have the resources to police the English Channel.
>>77456266
HA HA HA HA HA
>>77456277
Not a Brit/pol/ ?
>>77456228
It's apparent you don't know what comaprative advantage means.
Norway is secure with its oil.
Switzerland is secure with its finance sector.
The UK is a basket case.
>>77456282
Two coast guard ships and a destroyer with a bad engine isn't going to keep anyone out.
>>77456322
>The UK doesn't have a good financial sector
t. Moron
>>77456375
YOU NEED TO GO BACK
>>77456375
Which would certainly be bad if thats all we had, or that preventing people from crossing is the only step where they can be apprehended.
Isn't a problem now, why would it suddenly become one?
New thread when?
>>77455818
>The EU's size gives it more leverage as a trade bloc
Except that's not entirely true. The EU isn't a traditional trade bloc, you can't just say 'it's bigger therefore it's better'. It's comprised of dozens of individually acting and very diverse economies, some of which are strong - like ours and Germany's - but some of which are tiny and yet more are unstable. The fact that there are a handful of ex-soviet states in the EU alongside the volatility of the Greek, Italian, Spanish and Portuguese economies makes the EU a lot less attractive as a trading partner than its sheer size would lead you to believe.
>>77452138
I live in the southwest "remain" area and trust me, it's all leave signs here.
>>77456266
>The UK has one of the largest armies in the world
>Britain has no sufficient resources to police own water.
lol, what m8?
>>77456432
If we vote to leave the EU, our migrant problem would be a lot worse.
>>77455850
This isn't the original picture but it had the same info.
Essentially FP7 (The EU scirencester funding programme) only makes up 3% of science research funding. And you don't actually have to be in the EU to apply for that for example Israel have it.
http://marketbusinessnews.com/british-science-wins-loses-brexit/132165
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36499790
>>77456546
You think the UK has a large Army?
hahahahahaha
>>77456575
Would it, anon?
Whys that?
Would making illegal immigration more illegal somehow increase it?
>>77455915
No, it's not true, because Calais/Dover security is nothing to do with the EU it's a longstanding bilateral agreement between the UK and France.
Besides, even if they did ship them all over here - which will not happen, but let's entertain your fantasy - there will be nothing at all to prevent us denying them asylum and sending them right back to the mainland. To get here they have to travel through half a dozen safe countries, therefore by the time they get to us they are no longer at reasonable risk and we are not obliged to accommodate them.
>>77456194
Equally distributing migrants.
>>77456605
NO
ONE
WILL
CHANGE
THEIR
FUCKING
MINDS
YOU
CONTINENTAL
NONCE
STOP
SHILLING
NOW
>>77456432
Because france would be allowed to let the people in the jungle cross so they can seek immigration in the UK, we would have to set up a camp somewhere on the south coast.. say bexhill :^)
>>77456532
The sheep that vote whatever the government tells them to aren't as vocal as the exiters.
>>77456639
> security is nothing to do with the EU
France is under no obligation to stop people leaving the EU.
> sending them right back to the mainland
France is under no obligation to accept illegals shipped to their territoy.
The migrants on UK territory are the UK's problem.
>>77456750
You're legitimately a moron.
Or even worse, a possible labour voter.
>>77456605
>implying you need a large army to have one of the largest in the world
We have the largest military in the EU and the fifth largest in the world. If we can't police a few hundred miles of coastline around southeast England the rest of the EU sure as shit won't ever get the Mediterranean under control. Which is all the more reason to get the fuck out
>>77456804
b-b-but france is under no obligations!!!
>>77456804
>>77456661
"Largest" is dishonest.
"Most capable" is probably a better way of putting it.
>>77456750
France is under obligation to stop people crossing the Channel. Nothing about that changes if we leave the EU. What part of 'bilateral agreement' do you not understand.
>France is under no obligation to accept illegals shipped to their territory
Except the EU's common asylum policy says they are. :^)
>>77456884
The distinction is irrelevant in this context anon. The Navy may be fucked but it's still large enough to run regular patrols around the south east, and my point about the Med still stands
well, I just broke through the barrier. I actually started to believe this is happening.
I fought against it but my emotions got the better of me.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/15/nigel-farage-bob-geldof-a-chase-down-the-thames-and-the-most-sur/
Telegraph log by a sailor on Adm. Farage's vessel.
>>77456605
>Says the UK doesn't have a large army and does not have enough resources to protect own borders
>and somehow Australia manages to secure own borders with more limited resources
Lol, what m8 are you serious?
>>77454919
>London
Dont, it's shit.
Go somewhere more rural.
>>77455093
As a Finn would you vote out?
I worry about Finnish posters, your borders arent great so you could be a Swede. To be fair to Sweden they arent my least favourite people anymore. Their bullshit was self contained, unlike Germany. But maybe I should praise Merkel, without her Brexit wouldnt have pushed so far so fast. She woke everone up about immigration.
>>77455279
It gets better, multi culturalism is a failure. Plenty of groups hate eachother and dont want to have more people they hate show up. Indians and pakis dont get along in my experience.
>>77455570
Good, Germans can thank us for hitting their economy and discouraging migrants chasing your money.
>>77450329
Why the fuck is Poland complaining? You know damn well the EU is cancer.
>>77452718
Yes, Geldof has always been a cunt.
>>77455574
It's great, they cant rig votes now after brexit wins consistently and suddenly "Phew that was close goys, but remain won by a small margin".
