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I found this on twitter. I guess Peter Hitchens isn't the "based morality man" that people thought he was
We already know. I hate Peter's ignorance on Trump but that doesn't make what he says about British politics and the UK as a whole any less true.
>>77331214
I get the impression that he believes all the country's problems would go away if only more people were Christian.
>>77331339
It would help. Atheism has been responsible for much of the cultural revolution.
>57 Tory MPs would rebel and vote down Osborne's emergency Brexit budget
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>>77330721
Hitchens is a man of his class. It is Trump's "vulgarity" he dislikes.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36534192
>george osbourne destroying any chance he has of becoming pm
>>77331684
If Brexit wins he will be lucky if he is still Chancellor.
>>77331684
>implying he every had a chance.
It's BoJo's to lose.
>>77330721
The wrong Hitchens died
I think Peter would be sympathetic to some of Trump's positions (trade protectionism, immigration, aversion to nation building, realistic approach to Russian) if Trump were able to convey them in a less agitative way.
Trouble is, nobody listens to quiet reason any more, so agitation is the only thing that will rouse the low IQ masses from their slumber.
He knows this, but can't bring himself to accept the practical necessity of supporting someone like Trump in order to make even the smallest of headways in solving massive, ingrained problems.
Going along with the victim-blaming crowd is pretty low, though. I suppose it's because he doesn't really follow American politics closely. That and the fact that supporting Trump in the UK is like admitting to being a steroid-enhanced Nazi.
He's right though
>>77330721
yeah no shit he's a CONSERVATIVE
>>77331807
Christopher Hitchens was a Marxist Atheist. His last words were "Capitalism Downfall". I'm not surprised a neo-/pol/ kike likes him.
>>77331807
pfft
>>77330721
anyone that thinks this way and is over 30 is too far gone. They cannot be convinced
>*smacks lips profusely*
What do dogs mean by this? Are they telling me to hol up?
Peter has some views I disagree with, he clearly is in love with the idea of religious homogeneity over ethnic and his views on drugs don't sit well with me. I'm still a huge fan of the wor he does though
>>77331842
I pretty much agree with you. I really like most of Trump's policy positions. I struggle with how he presents them. At the same time though I like his conviction, his never say die attitude, and his irreverence. I still think he goes too far too often. Sadly I don't think he could be in the position he currently is if he hadn't been that way though. It's a tough one.
>>77331902
>WORDS MAKE ME KILL PEOPLE
IDS doing fantastically on LBC right now.
>>77332161
We just want to cut down the tall poppies, it's just in our nature
الحمد لله
>>77332161
To add to that, the tone of his campaign does worry me slightly in terms of 'worst case scenario' if he did become president, while I think I have a read on the person Trump i, I do also have some reservations/fears that the media plays to. His tone has improved in recent weeks though, not that the media coverage reflects this. I've also really enjoyed his prepared speeches, they ease a lot of my worries.
Regardless of all that. If I was in the US he is the only candidate I could even consider voting for. The policies of the others are terrible for the most part, and in times such as now would make most things worse instead of better. Some of Trump's policies will cause heartache and issues, but in general they ARE the smart directions to take.
>>77331538
You don't need religion to practice morality. In fact religious doctrine is very often immoral. Stoicism for instance is a good practice to follow for those who can't believe in the supernatural.
Polly Toynbee seems upset
ANOTHER DAY
ANOTHER POLL
EU referendum poll:
Remain: 41% (-3)
Leave: 45% (-)
(via BMG, online)
>>77332564
Whatever she meant by this it really made me think.
>>77332364
>الحمد لله
This is the new "Queen's English"
IDS is going after Osborne very heavily.
>>77332735
*Qwanz
Very sad to see Peter is just a different side of the same coin. Hope he can come to his senses and realize what he says is complete victim blaming nonsense.
>>77330721
>>77330784
>If you act violently in anger, its the fault of the people who made you angry
This is pretty exploitable reasoning. Lots of whites are mad at lefties for filling their countries with third-worlders and trying to lay the blame for every problem in the world on us
>>77332591
Wew when was this posted?
>>77332855
the fact is Petey doesn't believe in race
pretty sad
In just over a week the UK will become an Independent, Sovereign, Democratic, Self-Governing nation as mandated by the wisdom of the British people.
How does this make you feel?
Who are all these leave supporters?
>>77332984
>How does this make you feel?
Angry that we didn't do it sooner.
>>77333016
Average people instead of social-media obsessed internet-dwellers maybe
Got to know Tony Benn a little before he died. We may have disagreed politically, but I always respected his views.
>>77333016
People here have been saying the same, I think there might be a dramatic class or area split
>>77330721
Bit too much moral for me tbqh
they're going to rig the election, don't even bother voting you would just be wasting your time.
>>77333016
Leave is seem as less socially acceptable when broadcast to people you only have a narrow association with.
Like Shy Tories the silent majority is going to win it for Leave.
He also attacked Omar Mateen for past steroid use rather than being an Islamic Terrorist. He never shuts up about muh drugs does he?
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2016/06/some-reflections-on-the-orlando-horror.html
So Remain is confirmed full of idiots right?
How can you be this bad at understanding shitty memes?
>>77333016
Normal people who can see whats good for the country rather than self absorbed idiots patting eachother on the back, encouraging their own stupidity.
>>77331842
Agreed. I get the impression that Peter only gets to watch the bullshit and watch the horseshit that the mainstream american media put out - hell, if that was all I read on Trump, I'd think Trump was pretty awful too. Thing is - and rightly so, he's a British man who cares mostly about British politics. There is really no onus on him to know the truth about Trump.
>>77333016
> Marie Le Conte
London is due some cultural enrichment.
>>77333016
>foreigner
>>77333210
he blames every Islamic terrorist attack on drugs
the dude is living in denial.
So is Osborne finished?
How are the leave campaign reacting to the Brexit budget?
>>77333016
#WeAreAllBrussels
>>77333344
>>77333368
They are saying on your bike m8, there is no way that is getting through the commons.
>>77333334
so close
>>77333444
>>77333235
Does anyone have one of those collages of Peter Hitchens laughing... If he does laugh?
>>77331214
That's right. Peter's opinions on Trump have no effect on his other opinions; his other opinions, however, do tend to be wrong since he's fucking retarded.
>>77331684
>leave wins
>get back control of our country
>Osbourne gets sacked
>maybe Cameron too
>>77333334
>turns out i don't really understand this country
At least he's honest.
>>77332808
Why does 'anyone' need to be in inverted commas
>>77333344
Why is the left so obsessed with immigration? I mean, what, from their perspective, would be so terrible about reducing immigration? Why do they care? Why is unlimited migration in the hundreds of thousands considered the default position and the burden of proof on those wanting to reduce it?
>>77333568
>would be so terrible about reducing immigration?
Less Labour voters coming in.
>>77333334
Marie Le Cunt sound like a JF name to me
>>77330721
Yeah he hadn't said much about Trump but he made it quite clear on his blog over last few weeks he's a standard issue Cuck and a victim blamer.
>>77333344
>it's not the immigrant's fault, it's those nasty Tories!!!!!
>t. lefty cuck
>>77332295
What's happening.
T.workfag no radio
>>77333568
Because saying you love immigrants is akin to shouting out to the world that you are literally the nicest human who ever lived who is equality personified
It's funny, because being in the EU isn't equality, as we can't treat immigrants from the commonwealth and the EU equally
>>77333568
>less leftists
>less non whites
>higher wages
>lower housing prices
I think the left would implode without them.
>>77333740
http://www.lbc.co.uk/iain-duncan-smith-live-on-lbc-watch-from-9am-132261
>>77333016
Anyone seen the Guardians video from Stoke, where they are flabbergasted that white working-class people would vote to leave.
>>77333568
They don't even know. If you ask them how many is too many and work through the multipliers, everyone I've met eventually agrees there must be a limit. We can't have a billion people on the island or we'll have the living standards of Somalia. But they're truly terrified of looking like racists to their friends on facebook and that trumps all rational thought.
Brit/pol/ completely fucking BTFO
HOLY SHIT
What made you a British conservative for life lads?
For me it was when i saw all those degenerates celebrating Mrs Thatchers death, and breaking shit ans acting like animals.
>>77333507
what did they mean by this?
>>77333568
http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/rk-selection-and-the-immigration-debate/
>>77333922
That second one looks adaptable.
Not all muslims are in ISIS, but ISIS is exclusively muslim.
>>77333740
>>77333901
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJLd4IA2OvY
I recommend listening to it if you missed it. He was really good.
>>77333958
They presuppose that right-wing and nationalist are different, because they are dumb.
>>77333958
Here's another question
Do remain voters really think that calling Brits "Little Englanders" will sway them to vote remain? Isn't that just insulting?
England is like the 5th biggest country GDP wise on earth and that's comparing it to countries with hundreds of millions more people.
Still no images nor videos of Nige's flotilla. Press doesn't seem arsed to cover it.
>>77333181
Why are they speaking English if he voted to stay?
>>77333958
.... and then vote em out in 2020 if they are that bad.
Stupid argument.
>>77334141
If Brexit actually wins despite all the rigging already in place, I would like to hope they investigate lies and ties to the EU and EU commission and hold those responsible for treason and subversion.
>>77334141
Little Englanders is how the continent basically views us anyway.
>>77330721
The Hitchens are faggots, never got why there is anyone who worships them here.
>>77334141
I find it especially funny because the term "little Englander" comes from the label they used to give to people who opposed British imperialism in the Victorian era.
>>77333954
After learning about socialism and how even though most parties are socialist to some extent, the Tory party are the closest to wanting a free market.
>>77332919
1am
>>77333911
Yeah, the thing about Labour is that they think their voters vote for them based on their ideas and arguments. When in actual FACT, it's purely tribalism
>>77331684
Every politician who has spent the past 4 months scaremongering and bullying the population into voting to remain deserves to be hung
Didn't watch the debate with Boris and Priti, how did it go? who won?
>>77332591
It's a hoax one
>>77334291
>the AV referendum would have given us proportional representation
The system it proposed changing to is right there in the fucking name, how retarded do you have to be?
>>77334410
it was awful. the big salmon man absolutely raped boris. i hope nobody was watching.
So many anti-Trump shills in here, holy shit.
>>77334291
the house of lords are all we have to defend the rights of the British people from the house of commons.
>>77334228
Everyone knows that real democracy is being ruled by unelected German bureaucrats
>>77334291
I voted Yes to AV and I'm voting Leave. Don't really understand the correlation.
>>77334410
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUYvVLUvbss
In all of history we could have been born in we were born in the age of madness and get to see it be destroyed or madness be irreversible. Ain't it exciting? If madness wins I plan to join the marines and not come back. You?
>>77333911
The Guardian's (regular) commenters are going so wholly against their public stance that it's actually embarrassing.
>When you talk, you do not listen.
>We are sick of migrants taking our jobs, benefits, housing, filling our hospital places, and schools.
>We are sick of the EU taking our money and telling us what to do.
>Listen to the people and you will start to understand why BREXIT is so popular.
The Guardian, like Labour, can no longer pretend to speak for the working class left.
>>77334451
i know, it would have literally given a few more ukip mps and that's about it
>>77334560
I'm a member of the electoral reform society and voting leave
>>77334519
The Parliament Acts were a mistake.
>>77330721
>>77330784
Good god, his brother was so much fucking cooler than him. RIP Christopher.
>>77334291
> Scientific method
> Attacks a strawman
I voted for AV.
I don't mind the current Lords system, I just think there's too many of them. Turning the Lords into a senate will result in what they have in America, deadlocks between the upper and lower house. The Lords do a good job of block knee-jerk stupidity and they bring expert opinion into politics. The fact that the Parliament acts gives the Commons the means to overrule them when necessary maintains the democratic legitimacy. We don't need another chamber full of career politicians.
>>77334692
It's fair to say Chris would've been pro-Trump, what with how negative he was about Hillary.
>>77330721
He dislikes impoliteness, and thinks that Americans are outraged by that, as if it is so foreign. But what he doesn't know is that Americans practice outrage on a daily basis.
>>77334785
I'm not particularly opposed to them being unelected in principle, but there is too many of them and the appointment system is shit
>>77334785
>I voted for AV.
I didn't.
But I agree with the rest of your comment.
pro EU propaganda
https://vimeo.com/170374554
>>77330721
>>77330784
I really love how people use these assholes as an excuse to jump on Trump. It's like they don't realize that they could be on the receiving end next.
>>77331339
>I get the impression that he believes all the country's problems would go away if only more people were Christian.
It would. I say this as an Atheist. *tips fedora*
Peter Hitchens has sort of gone a bit crazy and it started in 1999/2000 with his book The Abolition of Britain. You can see how he gave up back then.
Also America has this weird concept called 'Fighting Words' which exempts people from being blamed for lashing out at language which would cause no other action but violence.
>>77334933
He knows about the rabid left and their attempt to dehumanize. He just thinks >>77334846
At least the FTSE opened somewhat strongly
>>77334519
people don't seem to get this for some reason.
>>77332503
True, but many people seem to be too stupid to prescribe to anything but mysticism in the absence of religion, and mysticism allows people to believe what they want, even contradicting views, without consequence.
>>77334901
>Maybe if we mock them for not being far left degenerates they will vote remain!
t. out of touch remain supporter
Can I vote in person if I've already received a postal vote?
It says I can't if I fill it in and return it but otherwise I'm not sure.
>>77334596
Eh, will probably depend if I find a gf in the next 2 years or not. If not, and things go to shit, I'll probably hit the roids and go infantry.
>>77334291
>muh lords
>i hate unelected people in the HoL
>but I love europe
>but i'll also make the argument the EU is democratic because our elected government appoints people for EU jobs
>but when they do it for the Lords it doesnt count
why do pricks whine about 92 hereditary peers?
>>77334901
How is that bad? This is a good cut of all the reasons to leave.
>>77335101
If you've returned it, then you will be voting twice, won't you?
>>77335018
Oh, and the protesters who mob events and use violence are being polite, and were polite before Trump started calling them what they were?
>>77335126
Because if we can't have full democracy, then we might as well have none. :)
this is probably the only thing i disagree with P Hitchens on
>>77334964
You fucking shill, none of what you said about "fighting words" is true. In America you're expected to be able to handle the bantz without resorting to blows because physical is never condoned here. I really have my doubts that you're even American, cunt.
>>77335101
>Can I vote in person if I've already received a postal vote?
NO - it's illegal.
if you have failed to send your postal vote, get in touch with your council, they may be able to swap you?
>>77335126
HoL also has a much lesser legislative role than the commission
>>77335148
They think the average person sneers at patriotism and anti-immigration sentiment like in their leftist bubbles. The 24th is going to be fucking great when we leave.
>>77335101
>>77335152
I posted my postal vote without filling in the signature form. I'm going to post that off, and the council have given me permission to do it. Problem is that they're going to 'fit them together' with my actual vote. Which means it's open to fraud. Even though I live on the IOW and they're extremely conservative.
I'm going to vote in person and through the postal vote. Just to be sure.
>>77333090
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWnpbEMMsNw
>>77331842
>That and the fact that supporting Trump in the UK is like admitting to being a steroid-enhanced Nazi.
That wouldn't stop him. He's said way more controversial things.
>>77335248
If we stay I'm going to fucking cry. Not joking. Call me a pussy but I will weep if the final nail on the coffin is slammed shut.
>>77333568
its the same principle of faggots who have to post 20 facebook status's every day about how they just helped an old lady cross the street or ran down a mugger to get some ladies purse
we live in a world where perception has become everything and since every aspect of our lives is basically shared en masse with the world everyone wants to appear to be the nicest most stand up person there is because everyone tells them "WOW YOU'RE SO NICE AND NOT A RACIST" most people are ignorant and completely self-absorbed to the point of insanity, but thats the thing do the insane really know they're insane?
>>77335152
I haven't returned it yet, I just wanted to vote in person because it sounds like fun.
>>77335232
I-Is it? Oh. I might not go in person, then. >>77335254
I might have thrown away my vote with stupidity...
>>77332930
Where has he said that? I've never heard him comment on race because I believe you could get thrown in jail in the UK for that
I believe when Peter Hitchens is on his deathbed he will reveal some of his most red pilled views on the Jews and the like.
Last BMG poll was a HOAX
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/743006008692379648?lang=en-gb
>>77333911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5lOUZdzo_I
>i'm a labour voter and voting out
>WHY
This Guardian cuck honestly seems confused.
>>77335439
>I believe you could get thrown in jail in the UK for that
NO.
You just have to choose your words carefully.
>>77335315
If we leave we're more fucked than if we stay.
Do you really want Boris to be PM?
>>77335566
...yes?
>>77335566
Do I want Boris to be the PM for a couple of years and then remove him from office? Yes. I would rather be homeless than us remain.
>>77335566
He's no worse than Cameron.
>>77332930
according to his brother, he's a diluted jew
why would he?
>>77335566
>If we leave we're more fucked than if we stay.
Bullshit.
>Do you really want Boris to be PM?
After his performance yesterday, I'm not sure but at least we would have the option to remove him after a few years.
pretty funny to think the EU could have avoided this had they thrown Cameron a bone.
Lovely day for the Hannan talk in Oxford lads. Maybe a bit too lovely as Im fucking melting.
>>77332808
It keeps happening!
What will Remain fuck up next?
>>77335499
Which one was that?
>>77335499
shit
what was the poll
>>77335763
Fucking phone pics I swear to Christ
>>77335761
Nah. He still had to offer the referendum.
What is REALLY funny is that he doesn't even mention the 'concessions' he got, that will still apply if we stay. It's almost as if he knows they're bullshit, hmm?
>>77335749
>>77335671
Fucking hell, lads. If Boris gets in he's not coming out.
>>77335860
sorry fucked that up, this one >>77332591
>>77335833
He'll get out. He has to after two terms.
>dimbles is probably done on QT soon
>>77334228
>the damage will already be done
Quote from my friend about exactly this when I responded with what you said
>>77335566
It is vitally important that the government is directly accountable to the people. If we remain, the EU is our supreme government and they are not accountable to us in any way. That's why they can sign treaties like TTIP selling off public services like prisons, water, even the NHS to corporations and giving those corporations carte blanche bleed us all dry. They have no fear of the people they govern so corporate lobbying is all they respond to. If you vote remain, you'll never get that power over your rulers back. We will never be asked again.
>>77333016
Have these people looked at literally any comments section on any piece of material relating to the issue.
Everyone is furiously leave with the odd "holier than thou" remainer cunt dotted in.
I think we're gunna leave lads. Honestly.
If 70% of the GE's Labour voters and 50% of the GE's Tory voters got leave, I reckon we'll see a 55% leave victory.
>>77335566
If we leave, we'll experience a shrift, sharp shock, and there'll be a few years of restabilizing, readjusting, learning to govern ourselves again. It'll be a bumpy ride There'll likely be an immediate constitutional crisis, as 3-1 MPs favour staying in the EU, and there are a lot of indicators they'll put up a work. If we stay, however, we're in this godless anti-democratic political experiment whose every handling of every crisis has been the worst one possible. The migrant crisis and the Greek bailouts primarily were used to benefit the economic elite in Germany, and everyone else across Europe suffers the consequences. There are more bailouts down the road. There's probably Turkey membership. There's rummages of an EU army. The EU has fucked up time and time again, and staying in that hellish organization is far than dangerous than voting Exit. Exit is the sensible choice.
>>77335761
>>77335821
I honestly don't know what the EU was thinking it could have put this to bed if they had even appeared to be cooperative. But it came across as nobody was bothered about what we did; so it rings a bit hollow now they all beg us to stay.
>>77333334
BASH THE FROGS RACE WAR NOW
>>77335566
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/679949/theresa-may-david-cameron-european-union-eu-referendum-michael-gove-george-osborne
>theresa "spy on everyone" may getting sacked
I thought she was pro-remain?
>>77333568
Because foreigners are just so novel and trendy and so hot right now and "muh new experiences" and shit
>>77332503
The point is that religion is a powerful moral authority, not a moral requirement
>>77336053
She has intentionally kept a low profile through this whole thing to ensure she doesnt ruin her chances however it works out.
Pretty sure Cameron is furious with her for it
Were those "shocking postal votes" ever confirmed by another source?
>>77335985
and should the absolute worst come to pass, they will absolutely welcome us back into the EU, there will be some form of rubbing our noses in it, but it'd serve them to no end to have us back.
Hitchens is too smart to support a lesser man.
::Slippery Jew Edition::
>>77336036
Because they're unelected. They do not give a slightest of fucks about what the common plebs think, how else can they so openly show their contempt for democracy? It's an ivory tower lording over the peasants. Now the peasants are revolting.
>>77334692
Cool Chris was pro-EU though
It's all Maggie's fault.
>>77333344
>We can go and live near the country that is not in the EU.
weeeeeeww
The polls are weighting Labour voters 70 / 30 for Remain
I think that is a massive over estimation from what I've seen and heard. I think it will be a lot closer to 50 / 50.
Fucking young people better not cuck us out of this.
>>77330721
I'm inclined to agree, Trump is a just loud abrasive moderate. His genius is winning over the voters.
Brits tend to mistrust this blatant marketeering. We prefer blatant nepotism instead
>this is the face of a remainer
>>77336345
>Fucking young people better not cuck us out of this.
I hope it pisses down with rain on the 23rd . . .it will stop a lot of them going outside.
All of the remain arguments could be used to argue for one world government.
>>77333344
Why aren't we campaigning on social media to convince dumb young leftists?
So what happens if you leave, britlads ?
Any chance of a serious happening ?
>>77336398
Luckily only 65% of under 25s are likely to vote while the over 65s are at 85%
>>77336345
I disagree. A lot of die hard labour voters are fed up. They're sick of immigration and are some of he most effected by it.
I think it's a reasonable estimate.
55%+ leave victory on the 24th.
>>77336477
we need to deport cucks
post yfw we crash this union and leave no survivors
Saw this on normie book and it really made me think
>>77336477
To people like that, I say they should emigrate now whilst they've still got the chance.
>>77334538
>(( ))
>>77336441
Come now Swede.
There's only one way anyone here would associate with leftists.
They're not going to bother to turn up anyway.
>>77332503
I think we're living in a time where there's no encompassing philosophy though, I don't care if it's Christianity or Confusionism, unless everyone's on the same page we have a fractured society
>>77331807
Peter forever rustled that Chris was their mom's favorite son. Their dad's favorite too.
>>77336485
>Any chance of a serious happening ?
Just serious drinking and celebration mate.
>>77336556
>>77336564
>Choose Scotland leaving the UK
make it happen
>>77336485
Global Recession is happening anyway with or without Brexit
>>77336428
That bird is legitimately insane.
>>77335383
Pretty sure you can take your postal vote to the polling station, I think
That's what I'm doing with my dad's
Christopher was a degenerate, but an intelligent degenerate.This is probably my favourite monologue of his:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQMNNjzo2s4
>>77335518
Sam is so red pilled
>>77330721
Is there any evidence that that is really hitchens account. It is not verified and @clarkemicah?
>>77331807
>liking that kike
good goy
>>77336513
Yeah I said they are massively underestimating the Leave appetite for Labour voters
A lot more than 30% of Labour will vote Leave.
>>77335942
>Wahhh most (in terms of people who voted) people voted for a party I don't support!
>We need less democracy to prevent this!
That's pretty much what that guy wants, right?
>>77336564
A clever pun... Liberals...?
Either way, if we get rid of the Scots, it would be worth anything else.
>>77330721
There's only one HITCH!
/thread.
Oh man, are you people fucking retard?
That clearly isn't Peter Hitchens real twitter account. Fucking off yourselves
>@ClarkeMicah
>>77336477
a lot of words to say absolutely nothing of merit in this reddit post desu
>>77336837
it's his account, faggot
its looking good lads, how many more polls can we expect before the 23rd?
>>77335101
If you've not sent your postal vote, you can hand it in at your station. At least that's how it works in GE
>>77335566
Yes I want a person who was voted in as a member of Parliament to lead the party that was democratically (sort of) voted in.
besides Boris is a right fucking laff. PMQs with him and the damp rag Corbyn will be hilarious
>>77330721
he is at defeatist phase
can we fix it?
>>77336920
>>77336901
I refuse to believe it lads :(
>>77336763
It is his. The name is a reference to a character from a book.
>>77330721
And to think I once thought he was based.
>saying mean things makes you responsible for any violence against you
>>77333522
>before leaving cameron voids the vote
>oh look we have boris all ready to take over
>so what about us leavig boris????
>ahh well vote for me next elections and i promise another referendum!
And the cycle continues.
>>77336782
Oh sorry. For remain. I misread it.
I think it'll be more than 50:50. I think it'll be 65:35 for leave, for labour that is.
Plus the younger voters who feel strongly about leaving will be more inclined to vote than the remainiacs.
>>77333954
Labour constantly sneering upon working people. Labour taking us into Iraq and Afghan. Labour selling all out gold reserves t record low prices. Labour bussing in shed loads of votes from the third world.
>>77337000
Even the based can have retarded opinions. He clearly just doesn't like Trump but I honestly don't really care, his views about Britain are far more important.
>>77330721
Fuck this fake bullshit thats not even hitchens account!
FFS
Farage is leading a flotilla up the Thames
https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/743002781049577472
>>77336925
There's 2 due on Thursday and one on Saturday, I'd expect a couple more too.
>>77333954
A simple understanding of the greater good and human nature.
>>77337145
https:// facebook com/story php?story_fbid=1133582283381483&id=589824544423929&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FwYsfFW6hrG&_rdr
Video of them
>>77333958
>giving country back to right wingers.
>not becoming an authoritarian utopia.
Pick one
>>77336992
I think you should read
>>77331842
God damn, I'm excited for you limey fucks. Best of luck next week.
>>77337121
Yes it is fag.
Compare the text to his past. The name is a reference to that.
>>77337145
I thought he was doing this on the day
>>77336428
>they had to commit crime
>muh tories
>>77337187
link isn't working for me, what fb page is it on?
>on the way home from the dentist with mummy
>can barely speak because I had to have 3 (three) fillings from eating too many sweeties
>pass a 'LEAVES GROW, REMAINS WILT' sign
>mum starts talking about brexit
>think 'h*ck! the one time we talk about politics and I can't even argue my points properly!'
>she goes on to say how my dad is strongly pro-brexit
>also how my sister is pro-remain (but she's abroad right now for studying so wheeyyyyy)
>and then finally how she thinks she'll probably vote to leave too
Really surprised by this, probably because EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ONE of my mates have wanted to Remain.
>>77336992
To respect a man, you don't need to support everything he believes.
Just watched Michael Gove's Sky debate. Gove fucking DESTROYED Faisal Islam. The cunt of an interviewer was condescending, incredibly rude and completely wrong all the way through.
>>77336428
When you 'have' to commit crime (you never have to, there is always a way if you look) you steal. Serial child rape in an organised gang is something you cannot drive somebody to do, they do it because they want to
Do you think I'll be able to witness Are Nige become PM before he dies?
>>77337102
What's going on in that image, if you don't mind me asking?
>>77335518
>"There's a difference between affluent, middle class urban areas, and what I would call the rest of the world. You know, the real world."
Fucking cunt.
>>77337398
White van man going to fix the persons plumbing
>>77336428
This is a fake right?
>>77337388
No
But the Knighthood and peerage are inevitable
Another lefty liar.
>>77334294
>I find it especially funny because the term "little Englander" comes from the label they used to give to people who opposed British imperialism in the Victorian era.
Please have a source on this, if it's true it's the best piece of historical irony I've read this year
>>77337439
Your jimmies rustled, Henry?
How's the Thames flotilla coming along?
>>77333954
I'm a conservative but not a Conservative. As far as I'm concerned Labour and Tories have the same neoliberal agenda. Corbyn was a marked change from that but he's on his way out
>>77337398
Labour MP mocked them for having English flags
>>77337145
https://twitter.com/jimwaterson
>Picture of the pro-Brexit flotilla of ships heading up the Thames to the heart of pro-Remain London. (This is real.)
https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/743006895586299904
>Meanwhile, Jeremy Corbyn loyalists in Momentum have pledged to protest the flotilla and defend London against Farage. (Again, this is real.)
https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/743006895586299904
>Bob Geldof has launched a counter-attack on Farage's pro-Brexit flotilla using a boat armed with a soundsystem.
https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/743010340229795840
>So I’m on a Remain boat with Bob Geldof and Rachel Johnson. They’re heading off Nigel Farage’s Thames flotilla.
https://twitter.com/mikeysmith/status/743006829408575488
Anywhere we can watch this flotilla live?!
>>77337509
It comes from people who wanted Britain to just be Britain, funny how that used to mean "stop taking over the world" and now it means "stop letting the world take over us"
>>77337563
Some idiots waving IN on one boat not part of it, but they're not getting much coverage.
Alot of London is looking as they've closed tower bridge for it to let them through.
>>77337563
Bob Geldof has launched a counter attack
>Horns filling central London as the pro-Brexit flotilla attempts to drown out Bob Geldof's boat soundsystem.
https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/743015973171658752
>>77337614
>TRUEsex
Fucking kekd desu lad
>>77337563
Finished now I think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp10uV-q8YE
You can scroll it back though.
>>77337577
>Dutch ships accompany Nig
Corbyn is about to get utterly cucked.
Knew he didn't like Trump but this is straight up libshit blame shifting
>>77337370
sick of society as a whole blaming everyone and everything but the criminals themselves.
>>77337577
>SHOTS FIRED! A Leave vessel just hit Remain supporters with a hose
https://twitter.com/mikeysmith/status/743009943712862208
Have we actually got to the point where we're fighting on the water again?
>>77337641
If spun correctly, this could come across as the elite trying to drown out the cries of a dying British industry.
Same Bob Geldof who refused to debate Katie Hopkins just recently on a pathetic Facebook-only debate aimed at the 'yoof', filled with such pandering bollocks as Brexit meaning Netflix would have a worse catalogue of movies (serious).
>>77337657
I picked the wrong day to not go to work at Canary Wharf. Would have got a bloody sick view famalam
>>77337726
Cocky remain boat shouldnt have been that close in the first place. It's their own fault.
Funny though.
>>77336564
>Cameron and Osborne are trying to carve up the NHS!
>But the Tories want to leave so they can carve up the NHS!
>But Cameron and Osborne want to stay IN
The Cognitive Dissonance is astounding. Most of the Remain voters I know are simply doing so because they see the EU as being a limitation on the Tory Government, never mind the fact that the two biggest snakes in the party (Cameron and Osborne) support Remain. Clearly staying in the EU isn't as conductive to the Tory interest as lefties seem to think.
>>77336092
And there is a massive problem when your morality book which has taught you how to be a kind and wonderfully moral person all of a sudden starts to advocate for violence and death under certain circumstances.
I believe that religious texts should be noted for their contribution to morality but ultimately derided for their short sighted and discriminatory practices, enter the halls of history, and just have everyone move on with the job of living as morally sound beings who don't kill and maim each other under the name of their gods.
>>77333522
>inb4 rigged votes Austria style
>49.9% vote leave
>50.1% vote stay
>>77337641
>>77337665
>>77337726
What a time to be alive!
Fuck sake why are we all sitting on 4chan we should be out there support BREXIT fuck
>>77337726
We're going to need a Nigel's Column
>select all images with boats
kek
Latest facebook propaganda from the remain side:
A good friend of mine came up with a great idea. If you don't have the time/inclination to find out all the facts about the EU referendum (I don't blame you) and are possibly unsure which way to vote, perhaps knowing how other notable people are thinking could help out.
Here are a few that strongly believe the UK should remain a member of the EU:
• Governor of the Bank of England
• International Monetary Fund
• Institute for Fiscal Studies
• Confederation of British Industry
• Leaders/heads of state of every single other member of the EU
• President of the United States of America
• Eight former US Treasury Secretaries
• President of China
• Prime Minister of India
• Prime Minister of Canada
• Prime Minister of Australia
• Prime Minister of Japan
• Prime Minister of New Zealand
• The chief executives of most of the top 100 companies in the UK including Marks and Spencer, BT, Asda, Vodafone, Virgin, IBM, BMW etc.
• Kofi Annan, the former Secretary General of the United Nations
• All living former Prime Ministers of the UK (from both parties)
• Virtually all reputable and recognised economists
• The Prime Minister of the UK
• The leader of the Labour Party
• The Leader of the Liberal Democrats
• The Leader of the Green Party
• The Leader of the Scottish National Party
• The leader of Plaid Cymru
• Leader of Sinn Fein
• Martin Lewis, that money saving dude off the telly
• The Secretary General of the TUC
• Unison
• National Union of Students
• National Union of Farmers
• Stephen Hawking
• Chief Executive of the NHS
• 300 of the most prominent international historians
cont.
>>77330721
In genetics one differentiates between 'ultimate' and 'proximate' causes. Ultimate being the genetic imperative, proximate being the resulting biological mechanisms.
One proximate cause might be Trump, but the ultimate cause is the Quran which teaches people that Jihad is an answer to their problems. If you don't remove the ultimate cause, you will never stop terrorism. There will always be reasons why people go astray. As long as violence is provided as an acceptable answer to their problems by their holy book and their preachers, they will go that way.
Follow it here lads
https://twitter.com/hashtag/BattleOfTheThames?src=hash
>>77332881
This is the kind of post that agreeing with would get me on another watchlist.
>>77337836
• Director of Europol
• David Anderson QC, Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation
• Former Directors of GCHQ
• Secretary General of Nato
• Church of England
• Church in Scotland
• Church in Wales
• Friends of the Earth
• Greenpeace
• Director General of the World Trade Organisation
• WWF
• World Bank
• OECD
Here are pretty much the only notable people who think we should leave the EU:
• Boris Johnson, who probably doesn’t really care either way, but knows he’ll become Prime Minister if the country votes to leave
• A former Secretary of State for Work and Pensions who carried out a brutal regime of cuts to benefits and essential support for the poorest in society as well as the disabled and sick
• That idiot that was Education Secretary and every single teacher in the country hated with a furious passion for the damage he was doing to the education system
• Leader of UKIP
• BNP
• Britain First
• Donald Trump
• Keith Chegwin
• David Icke
So, as I said, if you can’t be bothered to look into the real facts and implications of all this in/out stuff, just pick the list that you most trust and vote that way. It really couldn’t be more simple.
And if you are unsure about leaving, don't.
Please repost this list, if you think it might help.
>>77337577
god, geldof is such an insufferable cunt, i wish he would die already
>>77334901
That's Remain? But it only contains Leave arguments
>>77337726
WE NEED A LIVESTREAM
>>77337873
They never. Ever. Post a real argument or make a case. They just say X is voting this way, why think for myself.
It really really REALLY pisses me off.
Activate the submarines!
>>77337509
It's fairly well documented, even in the dictionary:
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/little-englander
If I remember correctly it was first used as an insult around the Second Boer War for people who thought it was wrong to send the army to kill Dutch farmers in Africa.
>>77337873
>encouraging people to be sheep
Hope you've replied.
>>77337883
>geldof is a literal cuck
>>77337836
>>77337873
Hmm sounds fair and balanced to me.
>>77337830
>Select all images with boats
>>77337542
I'm poor, but even my middle class friends can't find work and and to leave the EU. I don't appreciate her trying to propagandate the idea that the middle class are somehow more wise to the idea of a referendum than the working class.
>>77337836
>>77337873
Seen that drivel get posted. Just makes me realise how thick and retarded Remanians are.
>>77337944
My response was to make my own post, I make one every few days anyway
"Look at this list of celebrities, multimillionaires and politicians that directly benefit from being in the EU and are in some cases part of institutions within the EU itself.
They all want you to stay in!
Coincidence?
Don't formulate your own opinions, just use ad hominem fallacies to make one of the most important political decisions of not only our lives, but that of generations into the future as well.
You're not a mindless bigot are you?
Afterall, 3 million smokers can't be wrong!"
With pic related
REEM
>>77333954
I am not. I do not want to "conserve" anything about modern Britain. All the main parties are shit and left-wing, too. I want the UK to break up, I have faced the truth that unless this happens all of the UK will become like England. I do not want that.
KEK
>>77337337
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>>77337337
>>77337337
>>77337337
yeah excuse me lads
>>77337337
>>77337337
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>>77337337
>>77337337
but where are my bloody (You)s ?
This guy's on the Geldof boat
https://twitter.com/mikeysmith
>>77333954
Traditionalist or bust.
>>77333954
The life of and works of Enoch Powell
why is there no coverage of the fucking flotilla wtf
>>77337792
What I'm getting at is that people are fucking idiots. The uncomfortable truth is that religion acts as a doctrine that people are afraid of defying.
You don't need religion to be moral, but irreligion has lead to utter ambivalence to marriage and good behaviour.
If you think you can simply convince people to stop being selfish idiots, you will fail.
>>77337726
CIVIL WAR NOW
>>77338073
We've won, lads!
>>77333954
growing up in Manchester
Vote labour for 100 years and still blame the tories for everything
Found the livestream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp10uV-q8YE
>>77334964
The Abolition of Britain is actually a pretty solid book.
I used to have a lot of admiration for Hitchens, but he seems to be a deliberate contrarian.
He blamed the Pulse shooting on the gunman being on steroids.
>LIVE STREAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp10uV-q8YE
>LIVE STREAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp10uV-q8YE
>LIVE STREAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp10uV-q8YE
>>77338348
ITS JUST A FUCKING BOX
>>77337792
Honestly you're historically illiterate if you think people will just act morally without having it spoonfed to them
>>77338342
I read an article the other day where he implied that a terrorist had been under the influence of cannabis and therefore the two were linked.
Lost a fair amount of respect there.
So he's morally opposed to cannabis, but I wonder what his stance on alcohol is.
lads we only have until 12:30 to watch this flotilla, where the fuck is a stream
>>77338447
you gotta step into his shoes though, drugs killed his brother so he's obviously going to hate on all of them.
>>77338497
How can anyone hate this man?
>>77338497
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>>77338497
WOULD RT PUT THEIR STREAM BACK UP FOR FUCKS SAKE.
>>77338497
>the great escape theme
bahahhaha
the tories are kicking off on each other lads:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jun/15/eu-referendum-live-osborne-punishment-budget-farage-flotilla-thames
THE FIRE RISES
>>77335947
>70& Labour GE voters
You are deluded, they are so cucked that they voted Labour what do you expect now?
>>77336992
that is because you are a brit cuck faggot
>>77334964
>>77338342
>>77338447
Only really begun to lose respect for the guy in recent years because of this too, the obsession with trying to make weed responsible for terrorism is getting real tiresome now. I agree there needs to be more research on the correlation but fucking hell
>ISIS massacre in Paris
>blame marijuana
>>77338482
Fair enough but if hes an intelligent man he will seek the truth irrelevant of his feelings.
Heres a good video of him wrecking Russel Brand on the subject of drugs anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsMU77TwYM0
>>77338581
they see it as a protest vote against nu-labour, just like EU and council elections. they are doing it to punish labour for cucking them since blair.
they don't realise how important this referendum is.
There's a video doing the rounds on Facebook, saying "For every pound you put into the EU, you get 10 pounds back"
I'm almost 100% certain that it's complete bollocks but I'm unable to come up with a concise reason why. Any help?
>>77338447
He's morally opposed to pretty much everything. He's an ultra-conservative. I like watching him, but his tendency to blame every crisis on drugs is absurd
We won't leave.
The most recent poll boost will be for very weak leavers - the threats they will get out in the next week will make them change their minds and stick with remain for safety.
We need at least a 7 point lead going in to polling day to win.
The electoral commission is preparing for 80% turnout, too. That will hurt us.
>>77331214
he's a kike, smelly hooknosed good for nothing scoundrel jew
blaming the victim, what a retard/villain
>>77338581
The working class don't have many options. Labour betrayed them. It's so bad that many traditional labour voters are voting UKIP who are more right wing than the Tories.
I think the Labour vote is going to win us the referendum. They've been fucked the hardest.
>>77338581
>he doesn't understand that the entirety of Labour's working class vote is tribal and not based on policy or philosophy
kek
Wales and the north of England are not full of faggot progressives and champagne socialists, the labour vote looks very different outside the M25 and student cities. Huge swathes of them will vote leave.
Leave BTFO.
WE'RE GONNA BE POOR IF WE LEAVE LADS.
>>77338667
all you need to say is
>DUDE MONEY COMES OUT OF NOWHERE LMAO
>SOCIALISM LMAO
>>77338659
the one is chandler from friends is brilliant - IIRC these are actual quotes from him
>drug addiction is an allergy of the mind
>let me get the last word - what you're saying is as ludicrous as peter pan
>>77338667
For starters, where is their proof?
>>77338810
WOW. LIKE YOU DON'T NEED PROOF. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!?!?!
>>77338667
In the 35 years we've been in the EU we have never once taken out more than we put it
Nobody with half a brain will believe that shit anyway
>>77338497
>Y E S
What time is it set to come past parliament lads?
>>77338667
The government's own figures show we pay in £10 bn net into the EU. This would have been enough to wipe out Cameron's entire austerity program, plus ALL the current funding we get from the EU (since it's a net figure) with money to spare.
>>77336284
>Schulz
>>77338667
Since they pretend to care about the economy, tell them Britain's GDP hasn't grown since 2006 (inflation adjusted). You can even use The Guardian as a source; they won't be able to dismiss it coming from a liberal rag.
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2009/nov/25/gdp-uk-1948-growth-economy
Europe's economy is stagnant. Outsourcing and low-skill immigration is only making things worse.
Reminder that P Hitchens still thinks Enoch Powell's River of blood speech was an incredibly idiotic thing for him to do.
>>77338702
Sadly agree
>>77338482
> drugs killed his brother
I thought it was throat cancer due to him being a heavy smoker.
>>77337354
cane you summarise, chief?
>>77331842
he's like tiny shapiro, full on right wing until the jews tell him to go anti trump
>>77332155
like telling people to give up and leave the country?
>>77338791
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>>77339137
Sorry for not being more specific. The actual quote from the video is:
"For every 1 pound we invest in the EU, We get almost 10 pounds back in low prices, jobs, trade, growth and investment"
As far as I knew, EU regulations increased prices here - or is that a misconception?
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