Hey Gunfags, answer me this
If you believe that the Second Amendment is absolute and that "Shall not be infringed" includes no background checks, how do we stop someone in a terrorist sleeper cell from walking into a gunstore and buying an AR-15 or similar semiautomatic rifle and just murdering a bunch of infidels like he did in Orlando? Wouldn't a background check at least make sure he's not an American citizen or flag if he's being investigated for suspicions of being a terrorist?
Solve the issue with your brown people, and this would cease to be a problem.
background checks are already done
>>77284931
Have you ever bought a gun before? If it was that fucking easy I would have Hella more then the 2 I own
>>77284931
By banning Muslims from coming to this country.
>>77285141
I know there's an NICS background check. But gunfags are arguing for no background checks--even for criminals and terrorists.
>>77284931
>Guy passed background check.
>Wouldn't background checks prevent this?
Kek
>>77284931
What stops people from shooting him? Own a gun, exercise your freedom and shoot terrorists.
Instead Ongobongo defends them and blames guns. Left mental issue are bigger threat than terrorist.
Don't visit gay bars too.
Gun control didn't stop shooters in Paris and San Bernidino pham.
>>77284931
you take everyone who isn't white and put them in camps and deport or kill them.
>>77285081
We want to, but some retard gave them the right to vote so we can't just send them back.
>>77284931
Why are these background checks so shit? Yeah sure this Afghani cunt was investigated by the FBI but let's go ahead and clear him to purchase a firearm. Obviously not very effective.
>>77284931
Basically the founding fathers were cucks by not putting sensible rules into the constitution like "no muslims" and "white people are immune from all punishment"
>all men are equal
Literal fucking cucks. Waste of a independence war
>>77284931
How is a background check going to stop someone in a "sleeper cell" from purchasing a firearm?
>>77285458
Where are they doing this?
I'm okay with background checks making sure you're not a felon.
>>77284931
we kill the enemy with our guns.
>>77284931
Hay no-gun fags answer me this:
Why do you prefer terrorist use bombs rather than guns?
>>77284931
By shooting them as soon as they start shooting people?
>>77287179
Yet we target guns, why doesn't the gun industry work to own the media?
>>77287179
Cigarette deaths are essentially suicides.
Who gives a fuck?
>>77287370
>what is second hand smoke
>>77287456
Whenever I see someone smoking, I leave the room.
>>77287456
>what is a fucking laughable joke
>>77286095
He's innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, and convicted felons are prohibited from owning firearms. Until you are proven guilty in a court of law, you still have that right to keep and bear arms.
You, however, would throw out due process rights entirely by denying him of a right that is only stripped when he is convicted. You can't do that. You would be willing to throw out the presumption of innocence. With this kind of logic, George Zimmerman has to prove that he was acting in self defense when he shot and killed Trayvon Martin, instead of the Martin Prosecution having to prove Zimmerman set out with an intent to kill someone (Which is how it works).
It was good ole Benny Franklin who said "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." You, my mapley friend, are willing to sacrifice an essential liberty. You deserve neither liberty nor safety.
>>77284931
How about we don't let them in in the first place?
>>77284931
ban niggers and muslims, not guns
Or how about banning all Muslims?
FOR FUCKSAKE!
Imagine what would have happened if we didn't put the Japanese Americans in camps during WWII
>>77284931
>how do we stop someone in a terrorist sleeper cell from walking into a gunstore and buying an AR-15
Muslims practice taqiya, they would rather take secrets to the grave. But people become proud and fuck up and just have to tell someone, like our newest shooter. The Orlando shooters wife knew something and chose to do nothing. She didn't actively participate, but she was complicit in terrorism. Answer is pic related.
>>77284931
The guy in Orlando had a job as a security guard and no amount of background checks would have stopped him because the FBI has proven itself to be incompetent as fuck.
Banning Islam is the most effective answer to stop people like that.
>>77284931
SHALL
>>77288850
NOT
>>77288905
INFRINGED
>>77285799
/THREAD
Europe will continue to be fucked by islamic terrorist attacks and still be nogunz.
>>77284931
you have to eat bacon or be left alone naked with a goat for 20minutes.
>>77288850
>>77288905
>>77288988
Eh, close enough.
>>77284931
You don't.
There are more than half a billion unregistered guns in circulation in the US. It is literally impossible to prevent anyone who wants to arm themselves from arming themselves.
Any law you pass will only hinder the law abiding.
Time to man up and take your own self defense seriously.
>>77286995
Then you're a halfwit.
>"Looking only to official criminal records, data over the past thirty years consistently show that the mythology of murderers as ordinary citizens does not hold true. Studies have found that approximately 75% of murderers have adult criminal records, and that murderers average a prior adult criminal career of six years, including four major adult felony arrests. These studies also found that when the murder occurred "[a]bout 11% of murder arrestees [were] actually on pre-trial release"--that is, they were awaiting trial for another offense."
>"The fact that only 75% of murderers have adult crime records should not be misunderstood as implying that the remaining 25% of murderers are non-criminals. The reason over half of those 25% of murderers don't have adult records is that they are juveniles. Thus, by definition they cannot have an adult criminal record."
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvmurd.html
>>77284931
>mfw I realize that liberals don't even take the time to do basic research enough to know that this terrorist did pass a background check, that we already have background checks, and that nothing except discrimination or the denial of due process would have stopped this.
>>77284931
>AR-15
http://www.assaultweapon.info/
>>77289403
>posts obviously bias pages interpretation of data.
>doesn't post actual data.
>quote posted can literally not be true.
>100% of all murders have criminal records
This is how you can tell someone hasn't actually looked into what they are talking about.
There is literally no chance that 100% of all murderers are past offenders, by definition, yet this explicitly states that.
In otherwords, just a quick look shows that your info is bullshit.
>>77284931
You wouldn't have to worry about some terrorists buying rifles if you didn't have potencial terrorist within your muslim population.
Even if there weren't guns, they would keep being terrorist and would have another way to kill you, like homemade bombs or something
>>77284931
I know this is bait but I'll take a small nibble.
Shall not be infringed would constitute open carry everywhere in the country. Had open carry been an option (or carrying at all), Muhammed would have been ventilated by multiple people when the shooting started.
/thread
>>77289403
>Website nobody ITT has never heard of
>Rocksolid evidence
>>77284931
by disallowing 3rd worlders into the country and shipping out the ones already here
>>77289801
An illiterate liberal.
How shocking.
>>77284931
>>77285985
the problem is femininity.
women vote for degeneracy and degenerates into the country
feminized hipster male cuck boyfriends vote the same way
unchecked femininity is hte problem
>>77289811
A shitposting leaf.
How shocking.
>>77284931
You don't. You stop terrorism at the source, by either blowing their sandpit to smithereens or leaving them the fuck alone to kill each other.
What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not grasp?
>>77285176
The shooter was born right here.
After 9/11 how many foreign Muslims have committed attacks compared to the native born population?
>>77290194
His parents weren't.
>>77284931
get rid of nonwhites
>>77284931
the media is responsible for the "popular" usage of the AR type of rifles in these shootings. the gun has been on the market since the early 1960s. people didn't even like buying them, "plastic gun". they didn't start to become so popular until the media started reporting on its ability to get off so many rounds after Sandy Hook. then the government started to try and ban such firearms which made it even more popular. progressives and govt jackholes are the ones that are responsible.
>>77290290
>Parents are responsible for the actions of their ADULT children
Can you explain your reasoning? Are we going to retroactively punish people because their children fucked up?
But you're dodging the question. Compared to foreign Muslims that Trump has vowed to ban, how many of them have committed acts of terror compared to the ones born here?
>>77290290
Ding ding ding ding!
>>77284931
I haven't seen Rocket Man of Kyrgyzstan in a long time.
>>77284931
We should have strict gun control like they do in Europe.
Then terrorists won't be able to obtain assault weapons.
>>77288143
selah
>>77290821
He's obviously stating that had his parents not been allowed in, he wouldn't have been born here.
There are plenty of reasons why stringent firearm restriction would not be effective in the United States, including prevalent gun-culture, ubiquity of firearms in the US (too many fukken guns around!), and many others.
However, I would not argue against firearm restriction because of these.
One's personal safety is first and foremost, their OWN responsibility. This responsibility can extend to the individuals family, friends, and community.
In order to fulfill this responsibility, firearms of parity with US military must be absolutely available to any citizen, bar those that have already proven themselves to be a detriment to society through acute violence towards fellow citizens or their property.
Of course, I also fervently support hanging and gibbeting of all individuals convicted of large violations of the non-aggression principle such as violent rape, murder, grand larceny, etc.
Naturally, the justice system would need to be overhauled for this, to put it mildly. I ain't into stringing up innocent folk, but traitors and murderers would look mighty good up there.
Yes man, ban guns for civilians!!
>>77284931
>>77284931
don't care
disarmed public plus commy government is worse than random hadjis shooting the idiots who let them come here in the first place.
they only shoot up gun free zones
>>77286995
Any gun dealer ever. Walmart, bass pro, local gun shops, etc. Also gun shows seeing as how all the vendors at a gun show are FFl's and therefore required by federal law to run a background check when selling a firearm.
>>77288143
Good reply, thanks anon.
