Explain this to an outsider: A Muslim, gay, arab, policeman, democrat kills more than 50 people. Why people on the internet are blaming Trump, NRA, Tea Party and the Christians?
Normal people near you are buying this obvious cynical bullshit? That distortion of reality seems insane.
Because imaginary victimhood makes a saint who can do no wrong.
>>77202771
Media's manipulated.
Your daily reminder that intersectionality is a mental illness.
dishonest media
worst lairs in the world
get buttpained when Trump calls them out
>>77202771
>gay
he was married
robots need to update their scripts
>>77202771
so Trump is going to lose voters over this situation? ROTFL!!!!!
>>77203208
>he was married
So were Elton John, Little Richard, Oscar Wilde, Cole Porter, and Anthony Perkins. All gay.
>>77202771
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!?!?!?
I think if it were a real false flag, why not just make him an ultraconservative Christian white male.
I think what we're seeing here is inept Democrats living in an echochamber for 8 years are just really bad at trying to spin a story that the American people would find believable.
>>77202771
Normal people aren't blaming any of those things, hue. Gotta learn the difference between grass and astroturf.
>>77203220
No. The only people that are fooled by this are kids on twitter. Most adults that I have talked to are sick of this shit.
>>77203423
don't forget bruce jenner!
>>77202771
1. He was a crazy person
2. He used a gun
3. Homophobia
These are all White People things, therefore White People are to blame.
>>77203208
He was also a regular of the club he shot up and had grinder on his phone.
>>77203423
there is no credible evidence the gunman was homosexual
you're just going to have to accept the fact that his affiliations with islam is the cause for this terrorist incident
>>77203220
oh man all those underage tumblr SJWs were so going to vote for him
bummer
>>77203208
>he was married
Because beards aren't a thing
because he was oppressed by the white man and their gun culture which is why he nor islam are to blame
>>77203865
throwing homosexuals under the bus to protect islam is really stupid (unless you are a muslim of course, then it would be part of survival)
>>77203835
Look at the post number above yours...
>>77203835
shitposter is right, all this media bullshit saying he is gay is really suspect.
>he travels several hours just to go to gay bars?
>a former friend, who is anonymous(convenient) says hes gay
>he has gay dating profiles
not a single picture, screenshot, etc of any of this shit.
>>77203835
>you're just going to have to accept the fact that his affiliations with islam is the cause for this terrorist incident
Why now?
Why not five or ten years ago?
>>77203208
He looks bi sexual, he was probably mainly hetro but he looks like he's down to fug some dudes
>>77204040
I don't understand your post. He was a closeted faggot who went on a rampage.
>>77203835
This is true.
Plus, let's face it. Wouldn't it be better to know the place you're going to shoot up? Sure he was a regular visitor, but perhaps he was getting to know the location and security before just kicking the doors down and letting lead fly.
>>77204092
>not a single picture, screenshot, etc of any of this shit.
If there were, you'd just claim they were fake though.
>>77203208
this
It's most likely he was just trying to appear gay while he was casing the place to ensure he killed as many as he could. I don't think this guy was dumb enough to run in without planning it out.
Put yourself in this situation. Would you want to fit in with all the fags or be some creepy suspicious sandnigger wandering around a gay bar?
>>77204173
>>77204052
>>77204288
speculation is just that, lets look at the facts?
>islam calls for death for homosexuals
>he was a follower of islam
>he attributed his attack to islamic state
>his actions resulted in the deaths of many homosexuals
>he was married in a hetero relationship
>his father holds extremist views
and
>straight people go to gar bars
>>77203777
Trips of great truth
Hers the name he went under in his Gay Porn career
if he was gay, why isnt there some interviews with his lovers?
checkmate, atheists
>>77202771
This is how a human mind works. It has a certain pretex that forms the persons ideaoligies, beliefs and so on. Everything is seen though these beliefs, even if the facts might be opposite they will be ignored. A rational human beign has the ability to take in new information even if it opens up a possibility for a new way of thinking but most of these people are far from rational.
>>77204353
>just take the media's word for it
online presence can be traced. no one has found or pointed out any of these profiles.
>>77204353
All we got is some pictures from myspace after a long CSI. If he really was gay and had a profile in gay sites, don't you think people would have got any info of this earlier?
>>77204602
>>islam calls for death for homosexuals
>>he was a follower of islam
>>he died
>>77202771
Another question. How does one person kill or injure 100 out of 300 people? How does a shooting last three hours? How does a person have that much ammo and endurance. These numbers are ridiculous, the scenario is ridiculous. Something is off with this story.
>>77203777
Why doesn't anyone assume he was casing the target multiple times or targeting people via apps?
>>77204905
doesnt fit the narrative they are pushing
>>77202771
Everybody I've talked to is pissed, and sickened that the media/democrats were instantly defending Islam instead of Americans.
More than a few liberal leaning people were redpilled pretty hard.
>>77204900
In a group of unarmed civilians, most high on molly/x (let's be honest), tightly packed into an area with a lot of chokepoints? I could see the body count.
And 3 hours, presumably (fair warning, I haven't studied, or even looked at the particulars of this case), the police were trying to negotiate to save more people before saying fuck it yolo cap this asshole.
>>77202771
Don't it though.
>>77202771
>gay
>democrat
>>77205018
A lifelong friend of mine is gay, and a lifelong liberal. This pill hit him HARD, but he's grudgingly started to agree that Trump is probably the way for this election cycle.
Also convinced a friend of mine who's also a long time liberal to vote Green. Which I sincerely believe is a better choice than establishment Democrats, despite not agreeing with their policy, really at all.
>>77204900
who's to say swat didn't hit hostages? they were using the same ammo.
>>77203835
They're not mutually exclusive.
I don't know why you guys constantly argue that it's one thing or the other. There's no intelligence behind such an exclusive tactic that doesn't consider combinations, complexity, and nuance.
>>77203835
>no credible evidence the gunman was homosexual
This is patently false. He has gay dating profiles and went to a gay club regularly for 3 years. You might not find this to be conclusive evidence (nor do I), but that doesn't mean it is "no credible evidence".
>>77203835
>you're just going to have to accept the fact that his affiliations with islam is the cause for this terrorist incident
Nobody said it wasn't. You seem to think just becuse the man may have been gay that Islam had nothing to do with the attack, which is erroneous. It's entirely possible he was both a self-loathing gay AND the attack (and his self-hatred) are the result of Islam.
Please think, please.
>>77203667
Believe it or not, Bruce Jenner only fucks women, even now.
>>77202771
Because evil whitey.
>>77204900
Night clubs are notorious for being shit designed. Walking around for three hours with zero threats would be piss easy to rack up that count.
>>77205276
He would need at least 15 magazines to do that and everyone to stand still for at least 10 minutes for that to happen.
>>77205335
He was a registered Democrat.
The evidence for homosexuality is listed here >>77205433 and easily googled up. There's another story that he asked an ex-classmate of his out, but the classmate (male) turned him down.
>>77205360
Every vote Hillary loses is a win, doesn't matter who it goes to. I've been able to convince a few people to vote Trump.
>>77205573
>15 mags
>30 round magazines
>450 rounds for 100 injured
>bullets can't punch through flesh and create collateral injury (to be fair i don't know if he was using JHP or FMJ)
Shush, child.
>>77205679
The gay guy is in a republican state (Texas), and she's in Oregon (blue as fuck so far as I recall) so I doubt it'll make much difference, but yessir.
>>77205573
>15 magazines
Time to go to bed.
>>77202771
>arab
He was afghan, but eh, mudslimes all look the same right?
>>77205749
If they talk to somebody, it'll be like a ripple.
>>77205717
One round isn't going to kill someone retard, and he's not going to be perfectly accurate killing shooting 100 people continuously.
>>77203865
why no trump shop?
t. Phone poster
>>77205581
that "classmate" has remained anonymous, could be anyone or no one.
again with these profiles being confirmed just by word of mouth, where are the web logs, where are the links, where are at minimum a screenshot of his profile?
>>77203835
Why can't you accept that the cause might be the combination of being gay and islamic, which begs the question, if he was doing this to save his islamic soul as part of jihad will any of his virgins even be women or will they all just be young latino boys with big sweaty boners?
>>77203208
>Not understanding that tops aren't gay.
>>77202771
Here is a picture of Omar at age 7. Now, in Hue: aqui está uma foto de Omar aos 7 anos
>>77204633
dubs of confirmation
>>77205805
>one round isn't going to kill someone
Vitals, or just bleeding out from a wound since he had three hours to waltz around.
>>77205876
I'm stealing that last line there
>>77205877
Yeah prolly not
>>77205751
if you're trying to kill someone you're going to be shooting at least 5 rounds at each target.
>>77205889
>knowing hue language
get out of my country
>>77204357
Considering how many he killed, he probably mapped the place beforehand.
Most shooters who do it on a whim only kill a handful.
>>77204900
There were obviously others.
>>77205805
49 are dead. He undoubtedly hit more than one person with one bullet, have you ever been in a gay club? There's a lot of bodies close to a lot of bodies.
2 in the chest, one miss, one in the head, still way under 450 rounds, and this is assuming chest hits weren't fatal, which without immediate medical attention they often can be, and this exchange apparently lasted for hours. Controlled spray into a crowd could easily do this within a few magazines.
He's not some superhuman fag gunman. He's just some dejected pseudo-islamic butthurt fagmaster that went full edgelord.
>>77205944
That was very much Googly-translated
>>77205941
Why would he? Nobody was going to shoot back, no reason to ensure somebody is dead before moving on to the next.
Five rounds is excessive, unless you're a terrible shot.
>>77202771
>policeman kills 50 people
>lefty response is that your average citizen shouldn't have guns
kek
>>77203667
You mean Caitlyn Jenner, shitlord
>>77205968
I know one faggot ran out and barricaded a door, anybody who was behind him was fucked.
>>77205433
>He has gay dating profiles and went to a gay club regularly for 3 years
going to need some proofs there
>>77205433
>Islam had nothing to do with the attack
the proof provided shows that islam is the common denominator
>>77205876
trying to speculate the state of mind of someone who just murdered 50 people is beyond the scope of my expertise.
>>77206077
This might be spoken of for a bit. Why though. I mean it's tragic and conflicting and """""""recordbreaking""""""""" but i think pipboys are starting to freak out the normies
>>77205982
>He's not some superhuman fag gunman. He's just some dejected pseudo-islamic butthurt fagmaster that went full edgelord.
Exactly. This guy would not have the endurance to go full rambo on 100 people continuously.
>>77206095
>anybody who was behind him was fucked
>>77203648
This
>>77203733
>>77203777
>>77204288
Checked
>>77206178
Stretch Armstrong dick
>>77206095
Yes, it would be interesting to see how that contributed to the high death toll.
If that was the only alternate exit then you're going to have the death toll shoot up simply because people were trapped by him standing between them and the door.
>>77205968
>There were obviously others.
Definitely a possible senario. France had like four people with explosives and coordination in a room of over a thousand and they shot 89 people. It doesn't add up.
>>77206118
How does an expertise allow you to speculate on the state of mind of someone about to murder 50 people, but once it actually happens you won't accept accountability?
Desu its too late to spin the possibility that he was gay in any positive light. For the last 48 hours or so, anyone not willing to white knight for the religion of piss has gotten the hard reality that Islam and the west are fundamentally at odds with each other. If it turned out from the get go that he was a self hating fag we would be seeing an entirely different story. It might catch a few gullible people now, but not mearly as many as if that info were available from the start.
>>77203570
Implying this wasn't done by the FBI to help Trump. The only way the intelligence community is going to be able to destroy Hillary is if she loses the election.
It drives me insane because it makes me think I'm crazy.
What if we're just crazy??
>>77206172
it wasn't "continuous", it was a surprise attack with an automatic weapon on drugged up fags in a tight area with a prolonged bleedout/wait for medical attention.
I think you underestimate the level of panic gunshots cause, the damage they cause, and the effect of "whole bunch of unarmed people packed in a small area" on accuracy and inflicting damage.
>>77202771
Because damage control, and opportunist spin for gun control.
At this point in time, it would be DEVASTATING for the narrative of this story to go out as reality presented itself to us. Media SPIN is the only possible way to contain just how terrible this is for the liberal.
I've been hearing all day about how this fruitcake was a regular at the club for years, I bet he was radicalised recently and couldn't handle being a fag around extreme Muslims so he went crazy and did what he did.
>>77205876
It's not so much that he can't be gay and Islamic, but the liberal narrative implies that since he's gay, it was more of a 'gay on gay' violence and has little to do with his religion.
>>77206395
It wasn't an automatic weapon.
>>77206320
>How does an expertise allow you to speculate on the state of mind of someone about to murder 50 people, but once it actually happens you won't accept accountability?
because I'm talking about facts that aren't in dispute
>>77204602
"It's not his fault, it's AMERICA! War caused Islamists to lash out at us it's our fault! ISLAMAPHOBIA!"
Fuck me why is this generation so duuuuuuuuuumb?
>>77206294
>Witnesses heard shouts of "Allahu Akbar" just before the gunmen took up positions on the mezzanine and opened fire on the crowd.[13][80][81] Initially, the audience mistook the gunfire for pyrotechnics.[82][83] The attack lasted 20 minutes, and witnesses also reported seeing the attackers throw hand grenades into the crowd.[81] A radio reporter attending the concert described the attackers as calm and determined, telling CNN they had reloaded three or four times.
3 people shooting from an elevated position for 20 minutes on 1500 people = 89 dead
Something strange is going on when one man can attack a club of 300 and kill more than half that number.
>>77202771
My faggot friend went off on a tirade about Islam today and how much he fucking hates it.
The media puppeteers can't always thought control everyone the way they want to.
>>77206575
>50 is more than half of 300
Stralia math
>>77206684
49 is more than half of 89
>>77206552
My apologies, as I said, besides some very basic shit, I haven't studied the case at all.
Still doesn't sound super fishy from a "could it be done" standpoint.
>>77206684
Despite him being wrong, he's talking about more than half of 89, I would assume.
>>77206575
Elevated position = less likelihood for collateral damage, and I'd have to see a layout of both venues before assessing shit.
>>77202771
>A Muslim, gay, arab, policeman, democrat
was teaching a class on
>>77202771
because they're willfully ignorant haters of the West who think that attacking what they perceive as all that is good and successful in the world makes them sound smart
>>77206575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwPEp_R6KVo
sounds like one rifle to me. there is no overlapping shots and for all shooters to pause at the same time seems unlikely.
>>77206571
Straight people love gay bars almost as much as they love their grindr and Adam4Adam profiles.
>>77206572
I don't think its just "dumbness", there is also a deep satanic maliciousness on blaming Christians for this kind of attack. I would bet that at the time of Jesus condemnation, it happened a lot random tragedies and people spoke "it is influence of this dude called Jesus!". If this event is not perfectly analogous to the crucifixion, I do not know what is.
Using Christianity as a scapegoat for every kind of tragedy is a symbolic attemption to crucify Jesus again.
>>77206901
>grindr and Adam4Adam profiles.
not reported by the FBI so its unreliable
>>77206901
>Straight people love gay bars
sure, gay people know how to party :^)
>>77206901
I'm straight and I've actually been to a gay bar 3 times.
All 3 times, had sex with a biological woman that I either went with, or met there.
I'm not that smooth, or good looking. Only awkward thing is being hit on a loooot
>>77202771
It's simple. Whatever side of the political spectrum you are on the other is wrong no matter what. If the shooter was white, people like us would be on the defence saying things that don't make sence to them. Perspective anon. In reality no one is correct and no one is wrong simply because right and wrong are opinions.
>>77206746
Wouldn't it mean more headshots though?
>>77202771
>distortion of reality
>agenda
you got it sparky
>>77207472
>In reality no one is correct and no one is wrong simply because right and wrong are opinions.
Except this statement you made, that is absolute and unquestionable truth, right?
>>77202771
Pure Coincidence !?
>>77207465
if you go with your gf you shouldn't be hit on (by men)
only awkward thing is using a urinal while standing next to a fabulously flamboyant man in a dress
>>77202771
He looks and acted like a NIGGER.
>>77202771
You forgot guns.
White people with guns did this, not a towelhead repressed homo nutjob. Think of the children.
>>77204092
>Travelling several hours
GEEZ I WONDER IF IT IS BECAUSE HE DID NOT WANT TO BE NEAR PEOPLE WHO COULD RECOGNIZE HIM.
I DUNNO.
>>77207666
It's commen sence. I can state truths in the same manner as an opinion without it being an opinion. I can say " in my opinion the sun is hot" but is that really an opinion or is it truth?
Afghan != Arab
At least you have middle-age voters that will save the country.My countrymen, old ones, vote for those who buy their votes and young vote for populists.We are doomed.
>>77203733
Yes, if only he was well adjusted and peace loving like the noble and progressive Africans.
>>77202771
Normal people aren't buying any of it.
I live in a """"multicultural""" city and I was having a discussion with my coworkers about this animal today. a white man, a black man, a Hispanic and a woman.
We all agreed that muslims are subhuman and leftists are out of fucking control. The silent majority will elect Trump and the West will unite against Islam.
I don't believe a bit of this "he wasn't radical he was gay n shit" bullshit. They are just trying to make us think that he wasn't islamic terrorist and that was just gay homicide. I don't believe any of this. Sorry for butthurt english.
This will only make Trump more popular. Because despite what they claim the fact he declared himself for ISIS is common knowledge. You have more and more of these radicals attacking people, and absolutely no credible response from the government. People are nervous, and who else but Trump is actively promising to do something about radical Islam in our country? Nobody.
>>77205982
>>77206172
>pseudo-islamic
I'll take fucking shill for $500, Alex.
>>77208543
There's already reports about how his Islamic views are fishy.
>>77207534
Roughly equivalent number, it's more the better position for breaking cover that elevation gives you.
People can't hide from you as effectively, in other words.
>>77202771
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxvqSFRX18U
>>77209362
I'm not a shill, I wish I were being paid to shitpost.
>fucks men in the ass
>or wants to, anyway
>islamic
Although in Iraq they do like to talk about how men and children are for "pleasure" and women are for making babies, so, hey maybe faggotry is endorsed by islam.
>shut up dude, I like to call their religious conviction into question, it's a way to spit on their grave, so to speak. Die in the name of your religion, I call you out on being shit at your religion.
>>77208543
>>77209578
Also this but I distinctly remember similar shit on almost every terrorist attack, it's always called into question, let's wait for the details to shake out.
>>77202771
>Normal people near you are buying this obvious cynical bullshit?
No. I've even seen Berniefags (ex?) on my Faceberg post outrage concerning the attack on the second amendment and Christianity even though they are fedoras. No one is buying this shit.
>>77208439
It's the assault rifles.
If they didn't have military-style Kalashnikovs, they wouldn't need babykiller, high capacity, full auto murdermachines to defend against other, peace-loving people of colour who went insane when they accidentally touched a purpose-built, innocence-seeking, autoassaultdeathcannon, made by white males to preserve the patriarchy and kill kill peaceful Muslim babies.
>>77209877
There's no need to question his religion. The left will do that for you, which doesn't help when we want this to be remembered as a Muslim attack on U.S. soil.
>>77202771
Its so blatantly transparent what the media is trying to do. How do people buy this crap?
A while ago I talked to some friends and eased them on Trump.
Today, they all claimed I caused this. Me specifically because I support Trump and it's now clear to them I'm a racist and a bigot along with an islamaphobe. They also turned my mental problems on me saying they didn't want connection with a likely future shooter since I'm so bigoted even though I'm in treatment and counseling and have always been a harmless "teddy bear" to them. Suddenly I'm not.
They're all white.
I'm not.
I don't understand anymore. I don't want to and I'm not going to need to.
Don't give up.
In Sweden the media cut the trumps tweet in half just showing the "I appreciate the congrats for being right." and then had a whole article shitting on him, and that is from the most quality newspaper that we have. Also public service refused to show the police press conference live because they would say it was a muslim.
>>77202771
I live in a country with muslims and muslim terrorists. Nobody here believes he did it for any reason other than Allahu Akbar. We're the most redpilled country when it comes to fucking kebabs.
>>77210524
The left is cannibalizing itself because they know Trump is a serious threat and he isn't swallowing the PC that has defined politics for decades.
Literally everything is now his fault because they will go to any length to retaining powers.
>>77204288
>I don't understand your post. He was a closeted faggot who went on a rampage.
Agree.
What happened was likely this: he was a pussy with a shitty marriage and he decided to become a faggot(common for men who feel weak and powerless). Then, after realizing that he hated faggotry after suppressing his emotions long enough, he killed the fags.
Face it: his motives were probably very personal. That's why he claimed to've done it in support of Daesh so that no one would question his intent.
Fags hurt and kill other fags all the time
>>77206172
>This guy would not have the endurance to go full rambo on 100 people continuously.
It's not like he bludgeojed them to death with his cock, anon. Shooting 100 people in a cramped space with nobody shooting back doesn't require all that much endurance.
>>77204357
>It's most likely he was just trying to appear gay while he was casing the place to ensure he killed as many as he could. I don't think this guy was dumb enough to run in without planning it out.
You're wrong and you're a retard.
1) He would've just killed people where he lived if he wanted to target faggots. Muslims all live in big cities so there'd've been no reason for him to travel.
2) He likely hung out there as a faggot because he WAS A FAGGOT and didn't want everyone in town to know he was a fudgepacker.
3) Fuck it, read #2.
Look at the bright side: around 50 faggots are dead.
Does the name alone make him "Muslim"? I find that logic immensely stupid.
> Oh but he pledged allegiance to ISIS a few minutes before killing our faggots!
So did every tweenage twat playing CS:GO on the terrorist side.
You have to accept him for what he is. A gay, mentally deranged, American with beef to pick with the other homos who rejected his advances in the club he visited (and later shot up). Also he was Afghan, not Arab.
>>77211196
Guns jam, amunition is heavy, and the disorganized screaming from all the queers would drive anyone insane.
Also, you'd have to double-tap everyone you shoot which would be overwhelming with such numbers.
>>77211281
>he was gay because he had a few gay apps
>he wasn't Muslim despite doing Muslim prayers every single day
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/13/former-co-worker-says-orlando-gunman-was-unhinged-and-unstable-went-on-racist-misogynistic-rants.html?intcmp=hpbt1
Kill yourself achmed
>>77210878
>I live in a country with muslims and muslim terrorists. Nobody here believes he did it for any reason other than Allahu Akbar. We're the most redpilled country when it comes to fucking kebabs.
1) Your country is full of retards
2) The red pill is just as bullshit as the blue pill. Neo never left the simulation
3) Read up on Game Theory before jumping on one of the 2 most popular narratives.
>>77210445
>Its so blatantly transparent what the media is trying to do. How do people buy this crap?
Didn't realize the media was. They were probably being truthful for once. Besides, if Musims are so miserable in America that they become faggots and shoot up gay bars, then obviously the only pro-fag thing for the media to do is encourage Musilms not to become fags in the first place. By making fun of the queer, they're scaring other Muslims away from that coping mechanism for their misery.
>>77211406
>foxnews.com
>authentic source
Nice try.
>>77202771
Lib progressive types are brain-washed. They can't think for themselves. It's sad but true.
>>77211837
>implying anyone educated by the media, left or right, can think for themselves
>>77206802
I could not fucking read through that. Had to stop at the West imported their anti-homo agenda to arab countries in the 1800s.
>>77211368
>Guns jam,
Not really though. An AR15 that has had proper maintainence and firing premium ammo statistically shouldn't jam during a shooting like this, and even if it does you can just clear most malfunctions in seconds.
>amunition is heavy,
Not that heavy. 1000 rounds in a backpack with mags won't slow most grown men down.
> and the disorganized screaming from all the queers would drive anyone insane
I think all of that is relatively easy to overcome if mass murder is your goal. It's not like he was tryring to thread a needle.
>Also, you'd have to double-tap everyone you shoot which would be overwhelming with such numbers.
Try surviving a single 556 to the chest without medical attention for 3+ hours.. Besides, double tapping isn't exactly much harder than single. Have you ever fired a semi auto firearm? Because you really seem to be overestimating the effort involved..
>>77203208
I missed the gay part. I thought he was just casing places and settled on this one.
>>77212315
I only disagree on one point. I'm 6'8 and 280, I've carried 1,000 rounds of .308 (I'm aware, he wasn't firing .308, before some autist jumps in), it slowed me down.
Backpack would be easier, and it is certainly (easily) carryable, but saying one wouldn't be slowed by it? ~30 pounds of ammo, ??pounds of mags, and the physical bulk of it, and the weapon isn't what I'd take to go jogging (not that my fat ass goes jogging on any regular basis).
Not to brag, or at least to subtly brag, but I move big weights around, but that much gear would be a considerable amount of effort. Not that you couldn't move quickly enough to gun people down though, dunno why I felt autismal enough to point this out and write all this down, rest of your point is spot on.
Also fuck yeah Netherlands, visiting you guys pretty soon to get drunk with some distant relatives.
