>Checkmate
>there were armed security guards on site
citation needed
>>77182740
There was none.
I AM SILLY
>>77182609
(((Johnathan Rosenberg)))
i'm a #muslimissle now
>shooter was born here
His parents weren't. Don't let Muslims in, ever.
>>77182740
This
>>77182609
Gun crime happens because people are either poor, mentally ill, brainwashed, religiously motivated or a combination of those things. Mass shootings only seem more apparent in the US because there are more people, and more importantly more poor people as a proportion of population. Niggers are overrepresented because they're mostly poor and well, they're niggers.
If you look up poverty rates and gun crime you'll find they correlate pretty nicely.
>>77182740
Bars are gun-free zones
>>77182879
>>77182609
Forgot to mention the Muslim part.
>>77182609
>The shooter was born here
>implying nobody from the middle east came over here
>There were armed security guards on site
Well, that wasn't enough
>nra stopping laws
eh
Can liberals be right without lying?
>Armed security
Wasn't there one bulldyke bouncer and a buzzed gay policeman?
>>77182740
There was an "extra duty" officer in full uniform on site who engaged in a "gun battle"
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/06/13/481835963/worst-mass-shooting-on-u-s-soil-what-we-know-monday
>>77182609
There were no armed guards.
There are tons of gun laws on the books. That's in fact the reason why none of his victims had guns
>>77182609
HIS PARENTS WEREN'T BORN HERE FUCK YOU LEFTISTS.
Wouldn't be insane if some real hoodlums crashed a plane into some buildings and killed 2000 people? I mean hijacking planes is illegal!
>>77183030
this
you cannot legally carry a gun in a bar.
>>77182609
B^U
>>77183170
There was an officer in uniform acting as security for the club.
>they won't let us enact gun laws
>people shoot up gun free zones, anyway
Hmmm
>>77182846
>>77182866
OY VE THE CARTOONIST HAS BEEN FOUND OUT.
>>77182609
>The shooter was born here
Yep. Doesnt prevent you from being a certain religion, though.
>There was armed security
I doubt that, source?
>He was a criminal
No, he wasnt. He was a law-abiding citizen that passed two separate government-mandated background checks
>Just the people you vote for
Lel.
>IM SILLY
>>77182609
>muslim commits terror act
Remind me again why we shouldn't ban muslims from entering the U.S. again?
>>77182866
/thread
I try not to believe, but every. single. time.
> Cut CDC funding
HMMM... I wonder why
>In the late ’80s and early ’90s, the CDC was openly biased in opposing gun rights. CDC official and research head Patrick O’Carroll stated in a 1989 issue of The Journal of the American Medical Association, “We’re going to systematically build a case that owning firearms causes deaths.” This sounds more like activist rhetoric than it does scientific research, as O’Carroll effectively set out with the goal of confirmation bias, saying “We will prove it,” and not the scientific objectiveness of asking “Does it?”
http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/15/why-congress-cut-the-cdcs-gun-research-budget/
>>77182971
But nobody cares about actual gun crime they only care about mass shooting crime which happens very rarely.
>>77182609
>right-wing strawman is white, traditionally masculine, muscular, tall
>romanticised self-insert is ugly, androgynous, child-like, smarmy black faggot
kek
>>77182971
No they don't, blacks offend far more than whites even when you control for poverty. Stupid leaf.
Also so called "mass shootings" are less than one percent of all firearms killings. Again, most firearm murders are done by blacks, mostly to other blacks.
>>77182609
Parents were foreign, he had foreign influence directly tied to International terrorism.
There were no armed guards, and if there were, they'd be the first dead, if everyone were armed they'd have to kill everyone immediately or face retaliation.
Omar was cleared by the FBI twice. Even if he had to get a background check, he would have passed. The CDC did study gun violence and found that Blacks/Mexicans commit 80% of all gun violence and almost all gun violence is gang related. Terror watch lists are unconstitutional, if someone is so dangerous you strip them of rights, then get a warrant you fuck, and have a trial.
>>77182609
> NRA wont let us have any
citation needed
>>77182609
>Jonathan Rosenberg
>>77182609
>he was a criminal
He passed to security clearances, two interviews with the FBI and hadn't done anything until that night.
>>77182609
I swear to god it's like you can just SEE the resentment these liberal artists have for their dads in these comics lmao
I mean, look at this shit. Something tells me Mr. (((Rosenberg))) was a little queer.
>>77182609
>white shit speaking for muzzies
Who even cares about this faggot anymore
>>77182609
>A kid is making my arguments this clearly makes them the right ones
The islamists who came to the country were his parents
No armed guards on site
There already are regulations
The nigger is responsible for electing people who make his country's security incompetent
>>77183342
kek
>>77182609
>Says the male black youth
>a member of the group responsible for over 50% of the gun violence in the country despite being only 7-8% of the population.
Uhh huh.
>>77182609
1st panel: His parents are muslim immigrants, if they never came to the USA, he wouldn't have been born there.
2nd panel: First I'm hearing of this, and besides they might not have been able to do anything if they never saw the shooter.
3rd panel: The only prohibition regarding studies on gun laws is that the government can't fund them. Ignoring that he also had no criminal record, purchased his gun after passing all required background checks, and did this despite having been investigated by the FBI twice.
4th panel is just the author gloating over it's straw man argument.
>>77182609
ftfy
>>77182609
it's barely been 24 hours and they already have an opinion.
>>77183428
CDC and similar agencies have run actual research into it anyways and they found that guns don't increase homicide, suicide, violent crime or anything else.
But more people do die from guns if there's more guns.
Not that it matters, because it has no effect on the overall crime and violence rates.
Libs don't want actual studies done because they get BTFO by facts.
>>77182609
His parents were born in Afghanistan, and furthermore Islamists can be home-grown. What the fuck?
>>77182866
Boom. Total false narrative, disinfo. Let's not forget they're paid Al-CIA-da aka ISIS terrorists.
>>77182740
One uniformed police officer stationed outside of the club. Because obviously one highly visible police officer being in the viscinity is totally the same thing as people having the means to protect themselves.
See also:
>The shooter was born here.
To unassimilated, uncommitted immigrant parents (the father has tried to run for president of Afghanistan), raised among immigrants and foreigners, radicalized by immigrants and foreigners. He didn't really identify as American, and sensible countries don't declare people to be citizens just for being born on their soil, regardless of the legal status of their parents.
>No way to tell because your N.R.A. won't let us have any
Paris.
>>77184213
Also, he passed the background check, which just shows how useful those actually are.
>>77182609
>One cop with a service pistol
>Jihadist with high powered rifles
If everyone in that club had been a gangbanging nigger packing heat, the sandnigger wouldn't have made it past the threshold. Immediate and overwhelming reaction stops most shooters in their tracks
>>77183414
They thought we wouldn't notice.
>>77182609
What about the numerous failures of the FBI to catch this guy before this happened? As for the people that hate the 2nd Amendment, anyone that values human life agrees that it needs to be protected, and It the solemn duty of the individual to protect that life in the best way possible.
>>77183931
Holy fuck
>>77182609
There were no security gaurds armed at the club. The shooter's parents were immigrants and he was birthed in the US. The shooter hated america since 9/11 and obviously didn't assimilate well.
These cartoons suck.
>>77182866
EVERY SINGLE MOTHERFUCKING TIME
>>77182740
From what I understand, there was a 1v1 outside with an off-duty cop, though he got dinked immediately, but had unfortunately bought armor so it wasn't the juicy 1 tap, retreated, and saved for the next round.
>>77184362
>Loud noisy club with people coming in and out all the time
>Somehow it would be like an 80s movie, complete with record scratch as everyone turns to the shooter and blows him away
I still think there would have been fewer deaths if everyone was armed, but the idea that it would have been prevented if people were armed is silly.
I am wondering how the officer who apparently engaged in a "gun battle" with Omar, and then the other officers who turned up and did the same, all managed to not kill the sandnigger and let him take hostages in a bathroom and apparently all walked away uninjured as well.
>>77183712
>blacks are about 15% of the population
> looks at him within the context of the group as opposed to the individual
what about the black people that dont commit crimes and do productive things with their lives?
>>77182609
>Obama ordered the CDC to study guns
>results BTFO of gungrabbers
>liberals continue to pretend it never happened
>liberals still insist no study was done
http://canadafreepress.com/article/obama-orders-cdc-gun-violence-study-study-shreds-his-position
It's like arguing with a Jew...
>(((Johnathan Rosenberg)))
Well, that's... coincidental.
>>77184977
>I still think there would have been fewer deaths if everyone was armed, but the idea that it would have been prevented if people were armed is silly.
I think when people say "prevented", they mean the big death toll and everyone hearing about it, not that anyone would die at all.
It would hardly be international news for someone to kill a few people in a bar before getting shot.
>>77184977
The Libjew's definition of "gun battle" means the armed criminal walked up to the lone armed guard standing there open-carrying and in full uniform and put a bullet in his head first before murdering 49 other disarmed and helpless faggots.
No shots were exchanged. None.
>>77185409
Yeah, but we can't have stories about people defending themselves with guns floating around, it ruins the narrative.
>>77185597
I'd like this to end up being true, because it would certainly clinch the position. But I can't find anything hard in either direction. its always the goddamn "gun battle" phrase.
>>77185842
It's also always "automatic weapons" and "assault rifles."
If a Jew speaks, he's lying.
>>77184857
>I get that reference.jpg
juan deag master race
>>77182609
>he was born here
But his parents weren't.
>>77185272
It's like deflategate, huh?
>Goodell orders study on football pressure during games
>results BTFO the NFL
>NFL continues to pretend it never happened
>NFL insists the measurements were just as a deterrent, not as a study
>Judge rules Commissioner has unlimited power just 'cause. No proof needed.
>>77182609
Muzzie add 2nd generation, so he's the result of bad policy from previous regimes
>>77182609
>your government
>8 years of obongo
wew lad
>>77182971
No, gun crime happens because guns are easily accessible (and handguns are legal)
and 80% of mass shooters are (not poor) white males, not the poor or especially poor blacks, as the implication that those groups are more violent would lead one to expect.
Shit, poor black people are severely under-represented as far as mass-shootings go. #equality #feminism
>>77187660
Gun crime happens because criminals don't give a shit about the law. Turns out roughly 80% of homicides are gang activities and they get their guns illegally.
>>77187660
>80% of mass shooters are (not poor) white males
Let's hear the mental gymnastics in support of that.
>inb4, "It seems like 80% of the ones in the news are white males and I assume they're not poor!"
>>77182891
so converts are okay?
>>77188165
What? Mail-order converts?
People who decide to take up a religion they only hear about from a distance just form wacky little cults that don't gain any traction.
>>77182609
I've got to admit.. The argument provided within the dialogue of this comic strip has truly sparked a ponderous bout within my mind.
>>77188011
name two instances of a black woman who committed a mass shooting in the US.
I'll wait.
>>77187972
Check again, most gun deaths are suicides, idk where you get your stats. The unbiased reports I've read show repeatedly that reducing handgun sales and instituting waiting periods are really the only effective means to reduce gun deaths.
idk why we still talk about assault rifles, gun locks, mental illness, and criminals. None of those things have any significant effect on gun deaths. Background checks don't work the way they are set up right now, so we can't catch mental illness or criminality, and how many rounds a gun can fire per minute doesn't matter either.
>>77188770
>>>80% of mass shooters are (not poor) white males
>>Let's hear the mental gymnastics in support of that.
>name two instances of a black woman who committed a mass shooting in the US.
I asked for mental gymnastics, and I was not disappointed.
>>77182971
you forgot to mention the fact that many americans are retarded/dumb and mentally ill. all round shit country, wouldneversetfootin/10
>>77188770
>Check again, most gun deaths are suicides, idk where you get your stats.
Never said anything about suicides, since they're irrelevant except as appeals to emotion. Australia shows that even forcing the general populace to turn in guns doesn't have any long term effects on overall suicide rates.
Here's the link regarding gangs and homicides: https://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/survey-analysis/measuring-the-extent-of-gang-problems
>>77188944
no mental gymnastics required, statistics bear this out. Prove me wrong and name 2 shooters who were black women. How about just non-white women? Any in the last ten years? My claim that white men are disproportionately over-represented among those who commit mass-shootings is very well borne out by the relevant data.
I asked for reason, and I was disappointed.
>>77189803
More sources on gang homicides
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/171576/america-doesnt-have-gun-problem-it-has-gang-daniel-greenfield
http://usconservatives.about.com/od/capitalpunishment/a/Putting-Gun-Death-Statistics-In-Perspective.htm
Source CDC study: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_06.pdf
>>77189829
>My claim that white men are disproportionately over-represented among those who commit mass-shootings
White men are disproportionate because men in general disproportionately commit the most crime for obvious reasons. Now if you account for that, prove white men are over represented in comparison to men of other races.
>>77189829
Well let's start with mass shootings as a whole. They're a statistical anomaly, if you use the legal definition of "3+ killed." In general, men are overwhelmingly the ones who commit violent crime, with blacks being massively disproportionate as a subgroup. You'd be far better off banning black men than whites if you want to actually reduce casualties.
>>77182891
So stop some shootings 20 years from now.
>>77189829
How are you defining "mass shootings"? Not being a dick- serious question. If you define it as 3 or more, black involvement skyrockets and it's no longer a white majority.
>>77190536
Black/Latino*
>>77189829
>80% of mass shooters are (not poor) white males
>therefore, you should be able to produce examples of non-white female mass shooters
>no mental gymnastics required
Yeah man. Why aren't you also requiring examples of non-white *poor* female mass shooters. I mean, people only come in two categories, right? People must be either one thing or the total opposite.
I'm not going waste time trying to dig up irrelevant examples of female mass shooters and trying to find out their race.
You're the one who made an extraordinary claim. Blacks are responsible for about half of violent crime in the USA, and also disproportionately associated with gang violence, and mass shootings are violent crimes associated with criminal gangs, so you'd expect black men alone to account for more than 20% of gang shootings. Hispanics also commit proportionally more violent crime and more gang crime than whites.
For a guy claiming that the statistics bear him out, you sure aren't producing any sources.
>>77189803
>https://www.nationalgangcenter.gov/survey-analysis/measuring-the-extent-of-gang-problems
you're a retard who can't read. Those statistics relay the rate at which gang related homicides occur within areas that report gang activity. Not percentage of total gun deaths. Fucking kill yourself, you useless piece of human poutine.
> http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_06.pdf
Holy shit you really can't read can you. Homicide doesn't even rank in the top fifteen individual causes of death. Suicide does.
And the other two pieces you posted are opinion peices published in conservative news media - hardly unbiased, and given that the statistics YOU posted support MY position, I can only conclude that the maple syrup has rotted your brain.
>I guess Canada has taken over for Australia's shitpost quota.
>>77190660
Holy fucking shit, you can't read. Out of homicides, gangs account for roughly 80% of homicides. Gun control doesn't affect any other form of death except homicide. Therefore you won't have any affect at all on homicide rate with gun control. Learn2read.
>>77190660
>In a typical year in the so-called “gang capitals” of Chicago and Los Angeles, around half of all homicides are gang-related; these two cities alone accounted for approximately one in four gang homicides recorded in the NYGS from 2011 to 2012.
That illustrates that the survey from the national gang center is brutally flawed. Chicago homicides are likely 70% or higher gang related. In 2015-2016 approx. 50% of victims were identified gang members, but that doesn't indicate the shooters' intents, what is defined as a gang etc. Also, the current climate has put immense pressure on political/police leadership to downplay black gang violence and avoid stigmatizing black victims of homicide.
>>77182609
>MFW liberals remember Omar "Let's Bag Some Fags" Mateen was a registered Democrat
>tfw that confirms what Republicans have been saying for years: the sandniggers don't fear the Democrats
>tfw he probably voted for Obama
>tfw he probably voted for Shillary
>tfw most of those who are well informed about politics in general will also make these connections
>tfw we can literally thank ISIS for setting fire to Trump's Reichstag
>MFW the God Emperor and his Inglorious Politically Incorrect Basterds have just won the 2016 Election
>>77182609
>I'M SILLY
>>77190592
>Blacks are responsible for about half of violent crime in the USA, and also disproportionately associated with ... mass shootings
>[citation needed]
BTW, the examples aren't irrelevant. The point is there are none. I'm not talking about gang statistics, which are largely irrelevant when talking about mass shootings. Their cause and solution are only tangentially related to gun violence in America, and studies show that reducing hangun availability and instituting waiting periods reduces gun violence, gangs or no. And suicides should count towards gun violence. Guns are the single most effective means of committing suicide. If you're going to argue that making something harder doesn't reduce the number of people who do it then you must be remarkably dull. Excluding suicides from gun deaths is autistic..
>>77190536 I've heard serial killers as over 3, mass shootings are over 5 people at once.
>>77182866
>the Jews are just a meme they said
>>77182866
THIS IS MERELY A COINCIDENCE, GOYIM. MOVE ALONG, NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
>>77191346
>studies show that reducing hangun availability and instituting waiting periods reduces gun violence, gangs or no.
Cite your sources dipshit, otherwise dismissed.
> And suicides should count towards gun violence. Guns are the single most effective means of committing suicide.
Australia nearly banned guns with no longer term affect on their successful suicide rates. They had a 1 year decrease (and only a slight one at that) before it returned to it's original rate.
>If you're going to argue that making something harder doesn't reduce the number of people who do it then you must be remarkably dull.
Except it doesn't, since most of the people killing each other with guns get their guns illegally.
>Excluding suicides from gun deaths is autistic..
No you.
>>77191346
>studies show that reducing hangun availability and instituting waiting periods reduces gun violence
[citation needed]
>>77190903
quote me from the study directly. I just read it, that is NOT what the data show. Go reread it. That 80% number you're parroting is completely wrong, you fucking retard.
>>77191149
>implying literally the two worst cities in terms of gang violence in the US are representative of the whole country.
pic related
>what if he wasn't able to get a gun
Then he'd use a knife.
>what if knives were restricted too
Then he'd use a rock.
Ban assault rocks.
>>77182891
And his father is an ISIS sympathizer. He was raised to hate America.
>>77191914
Show me how gun control will reduce overall homicide rate. None of that "only gun homicides matter" nonsense.
>>77191827
>>77191785
I have absolutely zero obligation to educate you where you are ignorant. If you care about the issue (you seem to) finding the sources yourselves will not only be easy, but far more effective than anything I could do to educate you.
>most of the people killing each other with guns get their guns illegally.
If you honestly believe that bullshit 80% number I can see how you think that, but that's blatantly false. Most gun-related violence happens with legally-acquired firearms. see Orlando.
>>77192265
shifting the focus, but still: if most gun deaths are either a result of hanguns or of crimes of passion (they are), reducing availability of those things will reduce those deaths (via banning handguns and requiring waiting periods)
>not acknowledging your sources support my stance, or at the very least, are severely detrimental to your own claims.
>damage control
>>77191937
Or a bomb
>>77183393
But Anon, you can't ban Muslims! We need to ban guns first! Just like France did, that'll stop terrorist attac..... Oh wait....
Well, it'll definitely keep attacks like the Boston Marathon, Brussels Airport, and 9/11 from happening.... Shit....
Well getting rid of guns worked for Australia! If an island country not sharing a border with a cartel controlled narco state can do it so can we! But don't even think about building a wall...
>>77192725
>I have absolutely zero obligation to educate you where you are ignorant
Literally not an argument. Show me the facts. The burden of proof is on you.
>>77185225
A chain is only as strong as its weakest link.
>>77191346
>the examples aren't irrelevant. The point is there are none.
Uh... how many female mass-shooters you can find has no bearing whatsoever on how many non-white mass-shooters you can find.
>I'm not talking about gang statistics, which are largely irrelevant when talking about mass shootings.
Okay, so you're using a definition of "mass shooting" which specifically excludes gang-related mass shootings and other typical criminal motivations, rather than just mass murders committed with firearms, which are mostly gang-related.
...and you still haven't produced a source for your 80% claim.
There's no sense in trying to apply it as some kind of criticism to a group that's far less likely to kill people on the whole. A lot of black men who want to go out and shoot people will be able to join a violent gang, they'll know a guy and they'll be readily accepted. Maybe they're not shooting people because they're in a gang, maybe they're in a gang because they want to shoot people. You can't say, "Oh, it's gang-related. That means he wasn't just a crazy who wanted to kill people. He totally, definitely wouldn't have killed anyone if he wasn't in a gang." Some gangs prize that sort of crazy. They encourage it, they arm it, they point it at their enemies.
>>77193006
being asked to validate otherwise accepted facts is not a burden of proof, it's an unreasonable demand. I have no argument to make defending facts, there is none. Facts are stated, not argued.
Simply bleating that stated facts are "extraordinary claims" does not make it so. Same goes for "literally not an argument."
Exactly why I am in any way obliged to alleviate your ignorance on a topic? Simply because you've chosen to speak on it?
>>77192957
>sharing a border with a cartel controlled narco state
Gun control: yes! Wall: no!
>>77193570
Nice autistic rambling idiot. I don't think those facts are widely accepted. Source your claims.
>>77192725
>I have absolutely zero obligation to educate you where you are ignorant. If you care about the issue (you seem to) finding the sources yourselves will not only be easy, but far more effective than anything I could do to educate you.
>Believe my claims without evidence
Dismissed. Actually no, here's a study from Canada showing that our gun control had no effect on homicide rates. http://jiv.sagepub.com/content/27/12/2303.abstract
>>77193696
I'm reapplying for my gun license after having been sent to a mental institution where I was unlawfully admitted and not released for a week despite them immediately recognizing that I had been sent there on a misdiagnosis and didn't need treatment.
My old one expires on Wednesday. No response from them yet.
Feels bad, man.
>>77193999
That's really shitty man. If it's on your record that it was a misdiagnosis then you should be ok though. Try calling them.
>>77182609
>Armed security guards on site
>An off duty cop with a handgun
>Implying we have no (zero) gun laws
>CDC involved in any capacity
Nice try (((Rosenberg))) take your huey freeman lookin ass avatar out of here
>>77193522
No it has a bearing on the claim that white males are over-represented in this category. The fact that there are NO non-white females that anyone can readily name is emblematic of this.
I'm using the definition of mass shooting most commonly accepted: 4 or more people injured indiscriminately. Gang shootings are almost all disqualified because they are intensely discriminate. Gangs shoot other gangs with indiscriminate victims limited to collateral damage, mostly.
And facts are evidence. Regardless of how much you would dismiss them. But simply denying what the data indicate is no argument. And that's all you've done.
>...and you still haven't produced a source for your 80% claim.
see >>77191914 it's a direct screengrab of the study from which the supposed "80% of homicides in the US are gang-related" comes from. The study LITERALLY says 13%. explicitly. And this was a source by which someone sought to support their claim that gangs disproportionately responsible for US gun violence.
>>77193696
>thread about US shooting
>Canadian gun laws are ineffective
>>77193673
>I DON'T BELIEVE YOU LALALA
Whether or not you believe me has exactly zero relevance to whether or not those facts are true. "I don't believe you" is no good reason to educate you. Only a good reason to note your obstinate and refusal to educate yourself. Clearly you must not care as much about this as you gave on.
>>77194904
>he still can't source his claims
>still autistically rambles from a moral high ground
wew lad
2/3rd of gun deaths are self inflicted,anything that removes gun nuts from the gene pool should be Welcome and supported,
>>77194904
>>thread about US shooting
>>Canadian gun laws are ineffective
Then show me a study that gun laws will reduce homicide rates. I've showed you they won't. You're entire argument so far has been "I'm right, you're wrong, don't question me, I'm spouting 'common knowledge' here"
>>77182609
>>77182740
>>77182802
>>77182846
>>77182866
>>77182879
>>77182891
>>77182962
>>77182971
>>77183030
>>77183056
>>77183074
AS ALWAYS:
1 POST BY THIS ID/OP.
POL POSTERS ARE BEING ANAL PROBED AND TESTED BY OP ROBOTS AND DO NOT EVEN REALIZE IT.
"Never trust an OP who doesn't respond to his thread"
>>77182609
>This entire comic
Holy leftist mental gymnastics.
>The shooter was born in America
To Afghan-born parents. Islamic terrorists CAN be born in America - but it's likely that the guy was influenced by his parents and by his homeland. It doesn't automatically make it a fault in America, especially if it's Islamic culture that drove him to kill gays.
>There were armed security guards on site
First, armed guards =/= armed club attendees.
Second, there was only one guard, a highly identifiable officer at the door. The author doesn't even comprehend what "armed people" means.
>We've never tried gun laws so we don't know
Top kek - we've never tried to genocide all Muslims either. Let's attempt both, then.
>American culture is responsible for Islamic violence
T O P
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K E K
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Gun grabbers have a special place in hell waiting for them.
Fuck anyone trying to restrict the rights of the people.
so Omars dad wasnt an imported terror supporter now?
wow libtards
wow
>>77182609
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/orlando-shooting-omar-mateen-father-seddique-mateen-taliban-god-punish-gays/
you loose shill.. again.
>no way to tell
Charlie Hedbo. In France. With smuggled guns.
Case closed.
Although really it's a good thing they use guns. The Madrid train bombing killed 191. Over 2000 injured.
McVeigh killed 168 with a bomb. Wounded over 600.
Gun kill counts will always be less than bombs.
I'm so tired of these "POL BTFO" threads with the image being a shitty, ill-informed, left wing comic.
If you have an opinion fine but why do you have to bring in that cancer.
![595803_5945691[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/euPsJoj.jpg "595803_5945691[1].jpg")
>>77196195
1 POST BY THIS ID/OP.
>1 POST BY THIS ID/OP.
Robot OPs usually deliver short OP with bait images and some of the following recurring themes:
is/are X white?;
is X Red/Blue Pill;
sexual & racist bait;
fap/no fap/ porn abstinence;
What did X mean by...;
Where were you when you realized ...;
[image] + well, pol?;
[image] + POL BTFO;
[image] + Hmmm, really made me think;
[image] + Hmmm, really makes you think;
[image] + Hmmm, I never thought of this;
[image] + I think X has a point;
Settle for [asian/arab/latino] women;
Genuinely curious as to why...;
see: >>77195321
>>77195321
>>77195321
>>77195321
>>77182609
ONE POST BY THIS ID
STOP REPLYING TO THESE SHILLED THREADS
THEY ARE PAID FOR
HEH I WAS ALMOST FORCED TO FACE THE FACT THAT MY ARGUEMENTS WERE WRONG BUT THEN I DREW THIS COMIC WHICH REMOVES THE ABILITY FOR YOU TO REBUT HAHAHA TOUGH LUCK PAL
>>77194904
>it has a bearing on the claim that white males are over-represented in this category. The fact that there are NO non-white females that anyone can readily name is emblematic of this.
You really have got to stop bringing women into this. It's incredibly stupid. No one with a lick of sense would respect you after you brought that up as if it were salient.
No one will even argue with you or look for evidence if you say that men commit far more of some violent crime than women do. Everybody knows men are more violent.
When you say "white males are over-represented in this category" you've got to defend that in relation to non-white males, not non-white females. Discussing male vs. female violence is a waste of time.
Anyway, the category of "mass shootings (excluding gang-related or profit-oriented shootings, and anything where the shooter bears a specific grudge against the particular individuals targetted, but acts of organized, group-backed, ideological terrorism are lumped in with cases of pure mental illness)" is a bizarre one to try to make any argument about, or base any argument on. It's less a useful category of crime to study for practical reasons and more a recipe for media attention.
>>77196445
Fuck, he got me pablo.
Thanks for the heads up bro.
>1 post by OP
>irrelevant topic
SIide thread, sage, report, ignore.
Do not post in this thread.
>>77182609
1. Born here, but to foreign parents with some pretty wacky ideas
2. I'm going to need a citation on that. My understanding is that many of these places are gun free zones because they serve alcohol.
3. It was gun laws that put the guns in his hands. He was some kind of security guard.
4. The pontiffs of political correctness who won't allow the FBI or anyone else to take action against him had more of a hand in it than people who want guns to be more easily available.
>>77196445
Doing gods work beantown, keep it up
>>77182609
Notice how the second panel does not actually rebut anything the man said?
Yeah....
Fuck you OP. Saged.
>>77189370
Please kill yourself, my countryman. I suggest cutting ALONG your wrists, for maximum efficiency.
>>77195321
>>77182740
there was an armed off duty policeman who patted down patrons as they entered.
He was shot first.
Once out of the way it was open season
>>77197473
saved.
have a pepe in return
>>77196445
>>77196934
Why is mexico the only country calling this out?
>>77192265
Check out Mexico's gun control laws.
That's how it won't do shit.
>>77197738
because the other posters have been bred to be a part of some online public opinion experiment or something.
>>77182609
>I AM LOUD AND ANGRY AND LOOK TERRIFYING
>>77182609
>The liberal is a butthurt manlet
It's like they know their audience.
>>77197738
Some of us noticed long ago, and are just watching the sad manipulation happening here.
most posts are bot posts. Well, most OPs are bots.
>>77182971
Look up niggers and gun crimes and you'll find a nicer correlation .
>>77185225
>do productive things
like shitting out more niglets? Come on, son.
>>77198082
Well, you can add that summer is here
>>77198295
Damn, that could explains what happened with my thread from some hours ago, I couldn't answer back because I had to leave my house
>>77182609
1 post by this ID. SAGE
>>77183428
Thanks for the link! Have an image macro.
>>77182609
Someone shoop this with the following:
White man: We warned them about importing massive amounts of Islamic immigrants
Black kid: but he wasn't a real Muslim! We need more control!
Next panel:
White man: France has gun control but there was still a massive terrorist attack over there.
Black kid: Yeah, I mean I guess... but every race has terrorists...
Next panel
White man: Muslims are only 1% of the US population, but commit over half the mass shootings
Black kid: Europe and Canada have far fewer mass shootings than the US because they have sensible gun laws.
White man: Europe and Canada also stopped keeping statistics on race and crime. Why is that?
Black kid: There's only one race. The human race.
>>77182609
What is this, the Cleveland show- communist edition?
>>77182609
>there were armed security guards
>50 people died anyway
>the solution is less guns
Literally what?
These people will tell you to "just call the police" a second later. Fucking delusional.
>>77182609
Anyone who knows about the history of the second amendment beyond American History (the right to bear arms in general) should know the fact that disarmament should be grounds for resistance.
The entire amendment is set up to protect the societal beliefs of the people from tyranny when the government becomes incompetent, removing it is calling the judgment of the people into question and separating them from us.
They'd rule us, we wouldn't rule them. You can't complain about government incompetenc and corruption and simultaneously try to disarm the citizens. It's just nonsense.
>Rosenberg
>>77201351
>>77201727
>>77201747
>>77201056
OP left. Why are yall still trying to argue with him?
>>77182609
>blacks commit the most gun crime in the US
It's the ebil white people's fault!!!!!
>>77184269
The shooter was a frequent visitor to the club, getting drunk there often.
>>77201747
fucking newfags.
Just let the shills run their course and don't reply to any of their threads when they ask question.
>SAGE
>>77191937
>Then he'd use a knife.
That's pretty much what Chinese terrorists have been reduced to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Kunming_attack
Apparently gun control does not always result in terrorists having guns
>>77182866
HOW
DOES
IT
HAPPEN
EVERY
SINGLE
TIME
Seriously all memes aside it really is staggering ffs
>>77196445
wow.. really makes you think..
>>77182866
EVERY!
SINGLE!
FUCKING!
TIME!
>>77188770
>reducing handgun sales
why hand guns?
>>77183144
You really think people at a gay bar would be carrying even if they could?
>>77204640
Uh.... some would. And that would be enough.
Heck, even I know gay people who own guns, and I'm on criminal island.
Wow
>>77182609
Dunno what they're talking about but I'm seeing a strong guy and a bitch so I'm going with the guy.
all faggots should die
>nothing of value is lost
>>77182609
The level of ignorance in that post is astounding.
>>77196445
I ain't no robot faggot
>>77208207
You are a faggot. And not even in the buttsex way.
>>77207576
what is going on here?
>>77182609
>MUH CDC STUDY
fuck off pansy ass
wouldn't have stopped this either
quit trying to exploit a tragedy to promote your stupid fuck agenda
>>77182609
>CDC
>guns
Are they adopting the side of I AM SILLY now?
>>77208358
Father comes in talking shit to his NEET son and tells him to kill himself if he just wants to sit around playing vidyas all day, son obliges.
>>77208358
Father/Son argument
Father puts the gun down
"Why don't you just kill yourself then"
He actually does it, the absolute mad man.
>>77183627
LOL
nailed it
bot
>>77183627
HUE
>>77208254
MMMM....no
>>77188530
Really makes you think huh...
>>77183154
Look. He took selfies on FB. He was a regular human being just like all of us!
>>77208410
>>77208461
>CDC studies
Guns are used 38x more for self defense than in crime in America, according to the CDC ’s report on gun violence that Obama paid for in 2013, and then never spoke about again.
There are between 500,000 and 3 million defensive gun uses a year in the U.S.
http://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cdc-study-use-firearms-self-defense-important-crime-deterrent
http://www.gunsandammo.com/politics/cdc-gun-research-backfires-on-obama/
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/15941-cdc-study-ordered-by-obama-contradicts-white-house-anti-gun-narrative
http://www.gunsandammo.com/politics/cdc-gun-research-backfires-on-obama/
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/15941-cdc-study-ordered-by-obama-contradicts-white-house-anti-gun-narrative
US gun accidents:
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf
Go to page 22. There were a whopping 505 accidental gun deaths in the US in 2013.
Thats 505 death by firearms out of a country of 350 million so
505*10000/350000000=.0144
There is a rate of .0144 accidental firearms deaths per year per 10000 people in the US.
They don't just delineate by "child" and "adult", so lets break down those deaths by age group.
Age under 1 yrs: 3 deaths
3*10000/350000000=0.00008
0.00008 infants per 10000 people died of accidental firearm discharge.
Age 1-4 yrs: 27 deaths
10000*27/350000000=0.0007
,0007 children aged 1-4 yrs per 10000 people died of accidental firearms discharge.
Age 5-14 yrs: 39 deaths
39*10000/350000000=0.001
0.001 people aged 5-14 per 10000 people died of accidental firearms discharge.
Deaths age 15-24:107
107*10000/350000000=0.003
0.003 people aged 15-24 per 10000
No, m8, the US doesn't have a problem with accidental firearms deaths, this is especially true for children. Those that say so are faggots pushing the cultural marxist agenda or are stupid enough to listen to the media.
>>77208831
Sorry I had no idea you were actually gay.
>He was born here
Why is this even argument? If they wouldnt let his sandnigger parents into the country there wouldnt be any problem.
>>77182609
The fact that he was born here proves that Islamic terrorist are just more deeply imbedded and we need to watch our ass more. Just because they have social
Media profiles doesn't make their jihad any less dangerous.
>>77182609
The CDC did study the problem. Turns out it's niggers.
>>77182609
>Theres no way to tell
Plain and simple, there is, and no, it doesn't work when you ban all guns. This man was a domestic Islamic terrorist. Is ideology is the reason this happened, and its damn well and good for law abiding citizens to point that out. Fuck Islam, and fuck you, anti gun, terrorist apologist scum.
-That the sandnigger was born there isn't an argument. All sandniggers, regardless of whether they identify as muslim or not must be kicked out of all western countries, no exceptions.
-There was no armed security.
-Gun control already exists there, you need a background check to buy a gun and the sandnigger was still able to buy two, and also was allowed to be a security guard, meaning government control is shit and they can't even manage to make current laws work. Leftards' solution is to ban all guns, as if it would prevent terrorists from finding illegal ones anyway.
They should keep voicing their retarded opinions in their hugboxes, I'm sure it will do them a whole lot of good when some Muhammed barges in and kill everyone.
#notallmuslims durr
>>77182609
>>77208831
hey robot
3(4*9)=
>>77207576
>>77208517
>>77208529
asians do not fuck around
>>77182609
>/pol/ btfo
You do realize a lot of people want to ban guns and Islam?
>>77182740
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-orlando-shooting-inside-club-20160613-story.html
Contrary to other posts, the off-duty cop was not immediately shot.
He exchanged fire, but realized he was outgunned, so he called for backup.
>>77182609
Anyone else absolutely love these bias comics? Like does the artist really think people are that stupid they won't see how bias their work is?
You guys are deluded if you think not letting the issue be studied is the solution to the issue.
>>77182609
Hey, liberals make the straw man fallacy comics just like /pol/. You guys are more alike than you realize
>>77182609
This is so unrealistic. A mature, masculine white man would never feel obligated to explain himself to a dindu.
>>77186296
They do this with the Brussels attack too. They frame the argument so you can't insert race into it.
The correct tactic is to insert race into it. And use the words they *really* don't like. "Coloreds", "Negros", "High Yellow", "Quadroons" and "Moors" and so forth.
Not derogatory slang like "Nigger" or "Coon", but the genteel terms they've made unacceptable.
When they have their little flip out (Wow just wow I can't even) Ignore them and keep using the racial descriptors. They'll have to accept your understanding of race is now part of the discussion.
Or stop talking to you. And they can't stop. They have no impulse control.
>>77182609
> give most obvious argument
> there's no way to tell!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>77183428
>"no hans don't do the salute the cameras are filming"
>"it is too late frietz, it was always too late"
>>77182609
>the shooter was born here
So their kids will be terrorists. Great.
>>77182609
pretty shitty cartoon desu sempai
sage this shit
>>77182609
>there were armed security guards on site, fifty people died anyway
AYO HOL UP
So what you be saying is them armed people who were supposed to protect the people from maniacs so that they wouldn't have to get their own guns FAILED to protect the people? Kinda like how the police from time to time fails to protect unarmed people from armed maniacs?
Wouldn't this mean the normal people should be armed in case of maniacs slipping through cracks?
>>77183105
Was that a pun
>>77182609
The shooter's parents were muslim immigrants. Banning muslim immigration a couple of decades ago would literally have prevented this.
BAN THE ASSAULT RELIGION NOW
Let's get #assaultreligion trending.
>>77182609
>the shooter was born here
You heard it boys, integration doesn't work even on a second gen.
>>77182609
Yeah typical tumblr bullshit opinions. But more importantly:
Fucking disgusting draftsmanship. I want to punch whoever made this for thinking he has the skills to make a webcomic worth reading.
>>77182609
Hey look, it's another strawman comic !
>>77182740
They were armed. Just not with guns.
