Why are you Americans holding dearly on to your guns?
I'm with /pol/ on everything,been here since start,but dammit,I don't understand MUH GUNS fags.
LESS GUNS=LESS SHOOTINGS=LESS DEAD=MORE CIVIL SOCIETY
I can't see any good argument for guns.
>>77083699
I can't see any good argument for muslims.
>>77083749
the typical "i dont have a response viable enough to argue so i'll blame it on something i hear in the media" response
i fucking hate you and 80% of the worlds population for thinking exactly like this
It's called the concept of being too late. Yeah that obviously would've been a great idea literally 100 years ago but its too late now. More people with guns would've saved dozens of lives last night.
>>77083749
first post best post.
/thread.
>>77083699
Get the fuck out of here with your bullshit luka modric. I always knew you were a Jew with that nose
>>77083699
Da 12-gauge auto-loada
>>77083952
Da .45 long slide, with laser sighting.
>>77083699
>if you make guns illegal, criminals won't be able to get them
this tired meme again
yawn
>>77083699
>I can't see any good argument for guns.
Self defense. Hunting. Sport.
>>77083988
Da uzi 9mm
>>77083699
>I can't see any good argument for guns.
That's why you'll never achieve any power in your life.
>>77083699
Doesn't matter if you can or not
You're not American so your opinion doesn't matter
Unless you can vote here don't open your mouth
>>77083699
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>>77084050
WRONG
>>77083828
Islam says homosexuality is a sin, and Islam says that sins are punishable. Fuck Islam and fuck you for defending it.
>>77083952
>>77083988
>>77084048
Phased plasma rifle in da 40-watt range.
>>77083699
On the contrary
An armed society is a polite society, as evident with these no gun zones
>>77083699
A FUCCEN CHECKENBOARD
>>77083699
Remember those terrorists that shot all those those people in Texas during that draw Mohammed competition? No? Me neither.
>>77083699
If one person was carrying in that club they could have prevented this entire tragedy. If we ban guns or make them harder to get they just use vests.
>>77083699
Because it's a half measure fix to a larger problem.
Murderers will kill people regardless of the tools available to them, sure we can probably limit the amount of people they can kill at once by banning all guns, but that's an incredibly dangerouS undertaking just to lower the bodycounts of occasional rampages. It will just end up taking us to a scenario where only the bad guys have guns, and then you'll really start to see some bloodshed.
Sweden: NoGunz and rape capital of Europe
UK: NoGunz and most violent crime in Europe
Lessing shoots won't equate to less crime, less guns for us means more guns for criminals.
>>77083990
Just check the data on fucking gun deaths/mass shootings in Europe and compare to that of the US.
IT IS A FACT THAT THE GUN CRIME WILL DROP SIGNIFICANTLY.
because governments are not benevolent and our threat of force does somewhat remain a check and balance on the potential tyranny our government is capable of.
I don't want insane amounts of censorship and thought control and tv licenses and have juvenile violent third world parasites pumped into my country to rape and pillage only to have my government suppress any outcry of such events.
>>77084394
Yes and watch as all other forms of violent crimes go up
>>77084466
Like what?Data please.
>>77083699
>Why are you Americans holding dearly on to your guns?
B O S T O N MA S S A C R E
>>77083699
Fucking idiot.
Guns arent the problem, its the degenerates and muslims society lets run around.
>>77084394
>ban guns so gun related crimes decrease
Sound logic
>ban Islam so islamic related crimes decrease
Sound logic.
>>77083699
#80%freedom
>>77083699
Fuck you, queer!
>>77084394
guess what you city faggot
im armed to hell and back and the only way your getting my guns is from my cold. dead. hands.
EAT SHIT AND DIE
>>77083828
>blame it on something I hear in the media
>implying islam doesn't rape & kill in the name of allah
>implying islam doesn't throw acid on women
>implying islam doesn't throw gays off buildings
drink bleach
>I hate you for thinking like this
is that because you're a filthy sandnigger?
>>77083699
>I am too stupid to select a proxy in a country that didn't have a civil war in the last 20 years
to protect against the leftists of course
>>77084394
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>>77084804
>>77084829
>>77084858
>>77084443
>"I don't want insane amounts of..."
I don't want that either.But you don't understand that guns won't help you.
For example,America is leading in racemixing and all around progressive propaganda.I assume you disagree with it.Still,your gun doesn't help shit.
Whites are still being replaced,whites are still being demonized.
In a situation where nobody has guns,guns are not of much use.
And as for the tyranny,spare me please.
>>77084060
>>77084876
>>77084760
>im armed to hell and back and the only way your getting my guns is from my cold. dead. hands.
Do you really think you'd go out guns blazing?
>>77084607
I agree.
>>77083699
Its not about guns, its about constitution. USA was built on these amendments and they shouldnt be changed because of few shootings and nigger president.
>>77084779
You should be ashamed for picking on a child.
Also its muslims/islamists not islam a theoretical construct can't actually throw gays or acid.
>>77084882
>what are DGUs
>nobody has guns
>we can't deport 11 million people
>but we can find 350,000,000 pieces of metal and get you to turn them in without killing all of us
>>77084752
So Serbia and Macedonia post war countries where you can buy an AK-47 can be gotten for 100€
Have less then the US?
>>77084913
yep
>>77085028
>>77083699
Restricting access to guns wouldn't work the same in a society where there are already hundreds of millions of them spread out. It is simply literally impossible that they would ever all be confiscated or removed, so no matter what kind of gun legislation would be put in effect there would be a sizeable black market. Add the nonborder with Mexico (through which gun smuggling would increase exponentially in such a case) and the only thing that would change is the average joe would not be able to get guns, which might prevent some crime or murder but the truly criminally insane or terrorists would still buy guns just as easily and be twice as destructive.
Tldr; trying to change gun laws when so many already exist in civilian ownership and when your neighbour country is run by cartels and you have no border isn't comparable with small EU nations where civilian arms don't exist and the only neighbouring countries have no guns to smuggle in either.
>>77085036
0.484 > 0.088
0.280 > 0.088
I know basic arithmetic is difficult but please try to follow along with the rest of the class.
>>77085163
>>77085099
Your population not wanting gun control also does not help.
>>77083699
>Serbia asking why you need guns
You're young, aren't you?
Prepare to find out when the EU establishes Greater Albania to solidify it's expansion and Balkan Boogaloo 2.0 kicks off.
>>77083853
This is probably the best response I've heard for it. There's just too many guns, fuck all that could be done now.
>>77085243
Stupid photo.
You can fight,use knife,use any nearby object.
>>77085281
>>77085040
How do you imagine that scenario in your mind?
Because if I had that agenda and knew someone would resist violently, I'd pick them out when they're sitting in their car or are walking their dog.
>>77085331
>I have never been in a knife fight
see
>>77085044
>>77085283
Nice bait,bottom of Nordic barrel country.
Leave,nobody asked you shit.
>>77085398
>>77083699
GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUYS!!!!1
Why dont we ban Murder?
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,IF,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, We ban murder then people are going to stop murderin each other, simple as that.
this will suely work
>>77083699
Guns are the ultimate check on government power. Sure, an American with a rifle can't take down an Apache, but if the government ever turns on its people, it cannot fight a constant guerilla war on all fronts. The existence of the second amendment is the ultimate protector of democracy.
>>77085439
>>77085487
>>77085375
well ive always got a gun in my car and regardless of how i die id rather be dead than live in a country where i cant own guns.
>>77083699
If the number of murderous sociopaths in your society is so high that you can't trust your fellow citizens with firearms, then you cannot have a civil society.
A civil society is one where people have social trust. The cornerstone of that trust is trusting your neighbors with personal armament.
>>77085398
why are you counting on someone robbing you?
It's like it just has to happen,you WILL BE ROBBED,in your mind.
Rarely every does someone break into your house here.If they do,it's usually when you're not there.
I guess it's different in America cause of poverty.
>>77085415
Wow i must have struck a nerve, well i'll just be off then my Ottoman friend.
>>77085626
No,not really.
Take care buddy.
>>77085547
>well ive always got a gun in my car
You're not having it in your hand constantly, watching out for people who might initiate fatal violence against you, are you?
I know, it's a nice fantasy to have that you're going to fight these people off but it's not realistic.
>>77085556
>why are you counting on someone robbing you?
I am not
>It's like it just has to happen,you WILL BE ROBBED,in your mind.
Probably not seeing as I don't spend free time in bad areas.
>Rarely every does someone break into your house here.If they do,it's usually when you're not there.
mostly the same here.
>I guess it's different in America cause of poverty.
The difference is
>mostly
does not cut it
people do invade homes with inhabitants inside and do vile things to them and I refuse to be a victim in such an occurrence.
In all likelihood I will never be the victim of a violent crime, but I will be damned if on the off chance it occurs and I am not armed or my family is not armed because of the opinions of cucked retard slavs half way around the world.
Look at Britain. They took their guns, then knives. They've been cucked to the point their Queen convinced them they aren't to be trusted with pepper spray.
>>77083699
Can we PLEASE be logical for once and ban ALL guns? How many white racist nutjobs killing millions of innocents does it take to get you fascists to finally ban guns, especially the ones with barrel shrouds and high capacity assault clips?
Anyone has more information about this?
>>77083699
>every blade of grass
>>77083828
I don't need to give you a response on why I want my guns because I don't give a shit about your opinion.
>>77085798
yeah and we have one of the lowest murder rates in the world
>>77084394
Larry Davis managed to survive to see a courtroom. Surviving government tyranny is very real.
gun crime is literally statistical noise mostly perpetrated by felon gang members on felon gang members and the odd madman.
>well obviously the answer is to regulate hundreds of millions of pieces of private property due to the actions of a minute subsection of the population!
>if I don't have an argument I will argue based on feelings!
How about some black gangmember control?
how about some crazy people control?
No?
oh no that would be infringing on peoples rights?
but we can cry about guns because they are big black scary boomsticks that make you pee your pants and the world would be a better place if only you could just get rid of all the baby murder sticks right?
damn all the statistical evidence proving that only 0.003% of guns in the US are used to kill people
MUCH less for mass murders
we obviously need to legislate tens of millions of peoples rights away based on a fraction of a percentage.
Neck yourself faggot.
>>77085791
Why do you think you'll have a shot at fighting back?
If somebody came at night with the intent to kill you,they will kill you.
PS.I like how you use "Slav" as an insult.It would almost work,if we Slavs didn't subjugate the so -called Germanic masterrace,reached the space(first),weren't a world power,and didn't posses the beauty of highest order.
Such arrogance!
>>77083699
>why are you holding onto your guns
Because a sand nigger just killed a bunch of unarmed people, and the government is traitorous, wanting to import more durkas into the country.
>>77083699
>this is coming from a man whose country went through a civil uprising to liberate itself
Fuck you,you traitorous and retarded scumbag.
Ubij se majmunčino,odjebi nazad na plebbit u skokovima.
>>77083699
>LESS GUNS=LESS SHOOTINGS=LESS DEAD=MORE CIVIL SOCIETY
Fewer. But besides that, not one of those things is true. In fact, the number of guns in a society does not correlate at all with its homicide rates.
More importantly, if the people of a society are not armed, they have no proof against absolute tyranny.
>>77084536
Europe's crime rates have skyrocketed ever since they took in the sandniggers, before that of course it was all lower because you had low minority populations. Since blacks which compose 16% of our population commit 60% of the murders why not remove all of our niggers and there you go gun deaths down by 60%.
>I can't see any good reason for guns
"The rifle above the fireplace in a working man's cottage is a symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there."
>>77083699
>A
>FUCKING
>PINEAPPLE
>>77083699
>you don't need a gun
Let me share a small tidbit about my nation.
Guns are illegal. And most of the young people leave. Those people who leave have parents and grandparents left behind. Those left behind are old, frail and even gullible.
So thungs take advantage of that. They either scam them or worse. Much worse.
They come at night armed with bats, if even that. And they enter their houses, beat the old folks, sometimes kill, sometimes rape, sometimes murdering them, chopping them to bits and hiding the bodies. Why? Because they are weak, and defenseless. The criminals know that and take advantage.
Fear not the police will find the fuckers, but it's too late.
But if grandma had a gun, she would stand a chance, they might not even strike do to fear of getting shot.
Now please tell the poor and forgotten people of my nation that they don't need guns.
>>77085036
The US is on that list near the bottom. We're actually less prone to mass shootings than most of the countries listed. I wouldn't be surprised if Paris by itself pushed France over us for most of last year.
>>77085556
You're right, we should do away with needless things like fire extinguishers.
>>77086178
>Why do you think you'll have a shot at fighting back?
Because we do it hundreds of thousands of times a year.
Also don't assume my gun is the only device I have for defending my home.
>If somebody came at night with the intent to kill you,they will kill you.
^
>PS.I like how you use "Slav" as an insult.It would almost work,if we Slavs didn't subjugate the so -called Germanic masterrace,reached the space(first),weren't a world power,and didn't posses the beauty of highest order.
>Such arrogance!
sounds like slavic butthurt to me, maybe you should focus on fixing your third world shithole before telling me what I should or should not own ivan.
I WILL FIGHT TO THE DEATH TO PROTECT MY FREEDOM TO REMAIN TWENTY TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE SHOT DEAD THAN NON BURGERS.
>murica, logic, etc.
>>77086178
>zero chance is better than some chance
Exactly why the soviets were BTFO
>another massive wave of gun control shill threads on /pol/ for days
mods should just autob& these fuckers when they take over page 1
>>77086208
Exactly my point.
We were disarmed,and we armed ourselves.We smuggled weapons.
Now we don't need them.
Now it's funny how you're calling me a traitor,you little dipshit keyboard warrior.
My father was in the Independence war,and so were his two brothers.
My grandfather died on the eastern front,fighting with the Germans.
His dad was in Austro-Hungarian army during the whole 4 years of the WW1.
Ubij se,dijete.
>>77083699
Croatia, until you love in a country with 45 million niggers you can shut the fuck up. Fucking pineapples.
>>77086377
Right! You're not COUNTING on setting your shit ablaze, right? And first aid kits are dangerous, they contain potentially dangerous chemicals and sharp things! Ban those too, that's what paramedics are for.
>>77086178
>we
Delusions of grandeur my not so russian provider of fecal matter.
>>77086424
>TO REMAIN TWENTY TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE SHOT DEAD THAN NON BURGERS.
This averaging including black gangmembers
If you are not a black gangmember living in the black ghetto you are as safe as you would be living in rural canada.
Nice try though
>>77083699
I cant see any good argument for stripping away the rights of law abiding citizens because of a few nuts and alot of nigger on nigger shootings. If McVeigh taught us anything its that you dont need guns to commit mass murder. If Europe has taught us anything its despite your strict gun laws people still commit mass shootings. If mass shootings in the US has taught us anything its that liberal gun free zones tend to be a magnet for gun rampages.
>>77083699
Hello, I'd like a phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.
>>77084102
kys faggot
>>77086386
>Also don't assume my gun is the only device I have for defending my home.
What else you got?dildo?
>sounds like slavic butthurt to me, maybe you should focus on fixing your third world shithole before telling me what I should or should not own ivan.
Just stating facts bro.
>>77086450
So no gun is 100% death chance?
>>77086424
You're the kind of faggot that would have supported the 1928 Firearms Act or the post-Dunblain gun grab.
>>77083699
I'll engage as though you're sincere in your question.
USA is bordered by 2 countries, unlike Britain and Australia which are surrounded by oceans. This mean "banning guns" doesn't stop them easily getting into the country - this can be seen quite easily given the 2 countries above still do have simple access to illegal firearms, or in France, the gun laws did not stop them obtaining firearms - criminals do not follow the law.
Now consider there are already 80 million firearms in USA already, how do you realistically "ban guns" with so many in circulation? Ask nicely? It didn't work in Australia which doesn't have the right to own firearms enshrined in their constitution - how can anyone reasonably deduce that it will work in USA?
And in conclusion, no one will ever "ban guns" in the USA, at most they will get some silly regulation system like Canada and Australia, and this is still under the guise of problems 1&2.
also
>BILL OF NEEDS
>>77086178
k
>>77084126
Hey just what you see here pal
>>77086080
>yeah and we have one of the lowest murder rates in the world
If you count only murder. Switzerland has far more guns and is many times safer.
If you look at ALL violent crimes Britain is more dangerous than the US.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html
>>77086178
>Why do you think you'll have a shot at fighting back?
Because that is a fact and he is not a beta male like you are.
>If somebody came at night with the intent to kill you,they will kill you.
And you spilled your beans as the ultimate beta male. This defeatist attitude is held only by the weakest of the herd.
>you are a Slav
You are either a proxy or a heavily retarded prep boy from Zagreb/Rijeka. Either way you do not constitute "slavism" except maybe worshiping Slavoj.
I would like you to answer me this. How come gun related crime in Croatia is so fucking low despite 200k PTSD ridden veterans and loose gun laws? Maybe its because we are a homogenus society? Maybe its because we do not have a cancerous mass of negroes in the suburbs? Give me your explanation. Fag.
>>77086657
>What else you got?
Security cameras which are also useful when at work our out of town.
Dog
Alarm on doors and windows
and then a fuckload of guns
>>77086679
>Now consider there are already 80 million firearms in USA already
try 310,000,000+
also we make them ourselves so no need to import from canada/mexico
>>77086552
>Delusions of grandeur
But that's where you're wrong.
You see,he called me a Slav.So if he get's to identfy me with Slavic people,if only for the sake of the argument,then I get to identify with the Slavic people,for the sake of the argument.
Also,aren't you the ones that came up with the whole delusions of grandeur thing?You made the race a big deal,if you remember.
>>77086700
How can we save ourselves from the Anglo menace?
>>77086700
Spitting at someone is a violent crime here and gets recorded the same as ABH, GBH or rape.
Comparing violent crime statistics between countries is pointless.
>>77086560
>logic
Oh please spare us from your hate speech!
>>77084536
Google GunTown USA.
>>77086080
Lol seeing as how firearm homicide rates increased every time you banned guns
>>77083699
2nd amendment....
>>77083699
>its really that big a deal when a few people get killed out of the 320 million fuckin people here
people die in car accident every fuckin day
people die of old age every day
people die of cancer
people die getting lost in the mountains
people get murdered with bricks, hammers, knives, hell, I even watched a video once of a guy beating another dudes head in with a fucking rusty brake rotor.
what will you be mad at next if all the guns magically disappear from the planet?
>>77086743
literally everything you said is wrong.
Btw.Nisam proxy,Hrvat sam od glave do pete.
>>77083699
The good arguments for guns exist, you've been presented with them before. You just refuse to see them for what they are.
>>77086815
>try 310,000,000+
Thanks, I don't really know much about the numbers involved because this is a non issue for America.
>also we make them ourselves so no need to import from canada/mexico
I didn't bother to go into being able to make a firearm out of as little as 2 pieces of pipe.
I've been musing over making a full auto blowback 22lr for a while.
>>77086679
Nice to see I'm not the only one who doesn't get the logic behind anti-gun laws magically making guncrime disappear
t. >>77085099
>>77086837
Spitting is also considered assault and a violent crime here. Try again.
>>77087047
LoL 2 little pieces of pipe
you are completely in the dark here.
no, see... you can actually buy all the pieces you need to build pretty much any kind of gun you want to build provided you have the necessary tools to do this and you dont even have to register them unless you are going to sell them- its legal.
who the fuck knows how many guns there really are
also people make their own ammunition too
some ppl dont fuck around
>>77083853
So in a dark packed club a guy pulls out a gun and starts shooting. And your saying that in that chaos. Probably foam all over the place and strobe lighting and very drunk people there would have been less deaths if there were more people shooting bullets. That's fucking retarded man.
>>77085099
I see your point.
The thing is,I'm not even advocating ban for all guns.This is basically a discussion thread.
I just think these things are much better handled in Europe.
Now these faggots will mention Muslims and all kinds of cuckoldry,of course I disagree with that.But I like that fact that almost nobody has guns here.
>>77086507
>Exactly my point.
We were disarmed,and we armed ourselves.We smuggled weapons.
Except that is factually false you absolute mongrel. That was true in 1992. and onwards, but the bulwark of the JNA was stopped with hunting rifles in Vukovar. Hunting rifles,TO weapons they stole and JNA weapons they stole. You absolute mongrel.
>Now we don't need them.
That exact words would have been uttered by "anational peace loving yugoslavs" in 1988. "The army would never turn against the people,I assure you." And yet 2 years after they began shelling the civilian populace. Croatians have a long history of warmaking,because of our geopolitical position. Saying that we do not need weapons is utterly retarded,if you consider history your teacher.
>Now it's funny how you're calling me a traitor,you little dipshit keyboard warrior.
Now its funny that you listed the achievements of your ancestors in defense to your loyalty to this country. That does not count you retard, you are the alleged traitor,not your ancestors.You are a traitor because you do not uphold one of the principal rights proclaimed in multiple places in our Constitution (even the Preamble)- the right of self-determination and self-defense. That is textbook definition of treason.
>Ubij se,dijete.
Naravno,ton s visoka i pretpostavka da sam ja dijete,a ti odrasla "progresivna" individua. Kao što rekoh, pičkica iz Zagreba/Rijeke koja je vjerojatno na Filozofskom i koja bljuje svoje polupečene "stavove" nikako ne može biti odrasla/neretardirana osoba. Kao što rekoh,napusti ovu zemlju,odjebi u Njemačku ili se objesi. Ovdje nema mjesta za beskičmenjake i debile.
>>77084573
People with guns really saved the day there didn't they?
Also it was a proven false flag.
>>77087286
You're right. Thank god no one had guns until the police arrived. Probably saved so many lives.
Really, gun manufacturers should make their products unable to shoot in the dark. Everyone knows gun owners completely lose all vision in the slightest shade and start flinging their arms everywhere, shooting without caution.
>>77087233
>>77086831
>then I get to identify with the Slavic people,for the sake of the argument.
And take credit for other peoples inventions and achievements sure.
>Also,aren't you the ones
Aren't you a feisty collectivist eh?
Ethnic conflicts and supremacy movements long predate any of us as even a sorry milenial like yourself has to concede that.
The mere word slav is a testament to it.
>>77087425
>>77084328
Be in the UK.
Only have to worry about spoon attacks.
Feels good.
>>77087418
>You're right. Thank god no one had guns until the police arrived. Probably saved so many lives.
kek at epic strawman because it likely did.
>>77087425
you arent supposed to have those! lol
>>77087467
>>77087019
>literally everything you said is wrong.
How about you state those falsehoods. All of that is true, look up the numbers yourself. But to be honest,I am not surprised that you are resisting the fact that you are a beta male. A fag.
>Btw.Nisam proxy,Hrvat sam od glave do pete.
Ne bi se reklo. Žao mi je što degenerici kao što si ti upadaju u kategoriju "Hrvat" danas. Ti i takvi kao ti su rak rana našem društvu,uz HDZ/SDP osovinu koju imbecili kojoj imbecili kao što si ti podmazuju radni stroj pasivnošću i inertnošću. Ponavljam,ubij se.
everyone is talking about banning the Assault Rifle 15 because it's dangerous, but don't forget that many people die because of the 45mm Glock as well. Ban guns all togheter and solve this problem
>>77087506
>>77087549
>>77087549
thats some nasty ass welding
need to clean that shit up.
>>77087160
The point still stands. We have a much broader definition of violent crime. We also convict and report murder differently.
I'm supporting you, bellend. You can't hold up the UK as an example for stricter gun laws because we're completely different societies. What 'works' here may not work in the US.
>>77087494
Yeah, dude. Maybe over a hundred people would have died. Maybe make it a no gun zone to be safe.
>>77087601
:^)
>>77083699
If every country in the world banned guns you would be stuck sucking the dick of the next military that decided to invade your shit. Europe and Austrailia are fine today because America and peace treaties keep countries like China and North Korea from pushing your shit in. You can't sit here and brag about how great things are without guns when you're under someone else's protection. North Korea is under no one's protection and banned guns. Do you want to live there?
>>77087643
Straight fallout
>>77083853
This.
Any further gun restrictions or confiscations at this point would only harm the innocent. Do you really expect the criminals to hand in thier guns?
>>77083699
Because you can be free and unsafe or not free and unsafe. You realize people with guns keep you safe, right?
>>77086679
Well said brah
>>77087629
>The point still stands.
No, it doesn't. Our laws on violence are basically identical.
>We have a much broader definition of violent crime
No, you do not.
>We also convict and report murder differently.
Unless you interpret murder in such a way that not killing, trying to kill, or almost causing people to die is not some form of homicide, it doesn't matter.
>What 'works' here may not work in the US.
Agreed. But I think the UK would definitely benefit from having its citizens armed.
>>77087664
>North Korea is under no one's protection
Top kek friend.
>>77083699
Typical gun grabbers blaming the gun and not the fucked up cunt pulling the triger
>>77087494
> being able to hold people hostage with no resistance saved lives
at a bare minimum one man shooting back with a handgun would stun, incapacitate or make the shooter take cover.
If he is a good shot he could drop the shooter and end the incident.
>b-b-but what if he killed people!
>what if this person potentially killed someone while trying to stop someone actively killing people!
not an argument.
>>77085712
This.
Lol at libertyfreedumz dreamers, this guy probably has a "compound".
>>77087714
my mind is officially blown.
>>77087494
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/10-potential-mass-shootings-that-were-stopped-by-someone-wit#.ew1w5ybKx
http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/07/no-cops-around-man-with-concealed-carry-permit-stops/
http://myfox8.com/2015/07/27/woman-saved-lives-by-shooting-possible-serial-killer-in-the-head-police-say/
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/uncategorized/uber-driver-with-conceal-carry-permit-stops-mass-shooting-in-chicago
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/27/man-shot-and-killed-by-west-virginia-escort-eyed-in-possible-serial-murders/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/25/women-who-shot-alleged-attacker-may-have-slain-a-serial-killer-police-say/
Fact Sheet: Guns Save Lives - https://www.gunowners.org/sk0802htm.htm
http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/
http://100percentfedup.com%2Fwatch-angry-school-shooter-is-stopped-by-brave-woman-with-gun-media-ignored-story
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Culwell_Center_attack
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/03/do-civilians-with-guns-ever-stop-mass-shootings/
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-uber-driver-shoots-gunman-met-0420-20150419-story.html
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/170254/how-assistant-principal-gun-stopped-school-shooter-daniel-greenfield
http://www.businessinsider.com/uber-driver-with-concealed-handgun-prevents-mass-shooting-in-chicago-2015-4
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker_Middle_School_dance_shooting
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_School_of_Law_shooting
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Colorado_YWAM_and_New_Life_shootings
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/13/us/pennsylvania-walmart-shooting/index.html
>>77087851
>>77087592
>all that effort to make a revolver
>a Luty would be ten times easier and a lot more gun
>>77087952
Can't carry a luty in your pocket
>>77087952
>>77083699
Because I want to be able to protect my family when niggers from the nigger part of town decide to go and rob people in the suburbs.
Because I want my wife to be able to protect herself instead of being a victim.
And the most important reason?
TO SHOOT PEOPLE LIKE YOU
>>77083699
>"just ban guns!"
>hundred of millions of pistols and rifles just magically evaporate into the ether overnight
>including the ones owned by criminals
>anything brought in by arms traffickers will just phase out of existence
OK.
>>77087997
this is about it for my "homemade guns", the rest is mostly trigger group stuff
>>77083699
Sure buddy. You keep up with that meme think.
Banning guns saved so many lives in that Paris massacre, right? France started searching mosques after that and found arm stockpiles in most.
#banassaultmuslims
>>77088176
This guy made an AK from a shovel and I believe he has a homemade barrel on it.
look up poor mans rifling
or wait, maybe I have a webm
I'm hoping no one tried to fire this one but it would still kill (someone)
>>77088176
cowadooty.jpg
>>77087664
Thinks US protects the world unironically
Laughingwhores.jpg
>>77088176
>>77088271
yup
>>77083699
>>77083699
Guns kill people. Ok.
Guns allow violence more easly. Ok.
But if every citizen have a gun, police or someone cant force people to accept a law, a way of living, a new world order, and thats how freedom is safe.
Gun = power = freedom
Nogun = weak = slave
Btw, if there is gun control, black listes people are not allowed to have guns, public event will be controlled, and if terrorism is really comming people are ready to defend themselves.
Btw2, terror is a lie
>>77088275
Probably the person firing it. Physics and shit. PVC does not make good pipe weapons.
>>77088369
>>77088369
ta senpai, probably wont bother with rifling myself, either going to use a smoothbore or just buy a barrel and hack it apart
>>77087782
>protecting the regime and not the people
>>77088347
We're not protecting you from yourselves Nigel. You're on your own.
>>77083699
Because in spite of this incident gun violence is at pretty much an all time low. As soon as we give them up we will be cucked worse than the bongs and strayans combined. If white people turned in their guns we would be South Africa in about a week.
It looks like I have chased off my "countrymen" OP who started this shill thread. All in a days work.
>>77083699
Not only am I holding it the safety is off and it's fully loaded. I will go down with the spent brass at my feet. I'll die a free man upholding other Americans freedom. Time to make a stand against the weak and the sheep and those who herd them. Nuff said.
>>77088765
You know if anything did happen you die in an instant at the hands of a drone so far away you probably wouldn't be able to see it. Americans and their guns to save freedom is like a child with a security blanket.
>>77083699
ARM THE REST OF THE WORLD
AND DISARM YOUR OWN PEOPLE
GREAT FUCKING LOGIC
FUCK OBAMA AND HILLARY
TRUMP 2016!!!
>>77088902
You have NO security blanket, just a thumb to suck.
>Getting rid of guns
That's one of the most retarded things you could do, each household should have a rifle and a handgun for each member.
Also, during socialism we had looser guns laws than any today's "democratic" European country, on par with the US.
>>77088902
Nigger you have not a clue how an army works so STFU with muh drones. Cause those do jack shit to stop the Taliban.
>>77083699
Why were they okay with banning automatic guns, but not semi-automatic?
>>77088902
hhahahahhahahahha , tell that to isis
"YOu cant win with aks duh, you shoulda died monfs ago by mah drone, You arent even alive"
hahhahahahahhahahahha
retard
>>77089162
Because gun grabbers don't understand how guns work. They just think guns magically spit bullets out and kill all by themselves. Ignorance.
>>77088597
>Starts as prison colony
>Results in prison society
Fucking hell AU
>>77083699
worked for the bataclan eh?
>>77083699
i dont understand constant threads about take guns away.autism for the unimaganitive
>>77083699
Do you realize that more people in the US are beaten to death with hands and feet than shot to death every year?
Statistically, your bare hands are more likely to kill someone than a gun is.
>>77083699
>LESS GUNS=LESS SHOOTINGS=LESS DEAD=MORE CIVIL SOCIETY
got any evidence to support this claim?
here in switzerland we have a lot of guns but very few dead
>>77087286
These clubs should have a guard with a rifle up on a catwalk or in one of those owner rooms that oversee the dance floor.
That's how you protect a crowded club.
>>77089883
Damn switzerland is perfect
>guns
>no immigrants
>like 99% white
>>77091181
>no Imigrants
Tell that to all the albanians and mudshits.
>>77091181
Switzerland will be forced to comply with EU wide gun regulations due to the Schengen agreement and will be forced in court to take in immigrants. Have you not read the news the last dew days?
>>77091181
lol
25% of the legal people in switzerland are not swiss citizens... then add illegal immigrants and immigrants who became citizens and the number is above 35%
take a guess why our population is exploding faster than sweden's in spite of our low birth rates
>>77083699
>MORE CIVIL SOCIETY
Enjoy your soccer, I mean football, riots.
>>77083749
FPBP as always
>>77083699
It is my civil right to own firearms. Why do you want to take away my civil right?
>>77083749
Fpbp
>>77087312
Europe never had a strong common-man martial culture, except amongst nobility. For a long period of time, commoners were not allowed to carry weapons in public but of course, the knightly / nobility classes were exempt.
You could say this transferred over into modern day in a sense that only the state should be armed in any meaningful way, as is much of europe now.
Here in the USA, this was literally the frontier, and self reliance was #1 priority, since more than likely help was days / weeks away, if it was coming at all. This was enshrined in the 2nd amendment, and until recently firearms proficiency was effectively a cornerstone of american culture.
Combine this with the fact that disarmament activists literally want to see every possible form of self defense destroyed, to the point where now in the UK knives over 3" require a "Good reason" to be carried (Ex, you better be a fucking chef), and pro-gun folks have good reason to say "Fuck no" to any sort of gun control, in any form.
>>77087395
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman
People shot back. It saved a lot of lives.
>>77086507
And here you are shit posting on an anonymous message board about the affairs of other countries. They must be so very proud of you.
>>77092214
why do you want to give me the "right" to get murdered by an ISIS member who easily obtained the guns to do so?
>>77094931
if you exercised your own rights and packed a gun, you wouldnt have to worry.
>>77087629
Then the reverse is true and you cant compare our gun violence to any other nation
cant have it both ways you all don't have a crime problem like we don't have a gun problem.
>>77083699
We are not civilized enough to be disarmed.
>>77083749
No one can, but that is not really the point, is it?
>>77089019
We haven't needed to overthrow our government in 1000 years. What makes you think we need to?
>>77090003
Read the news. There was an armed guard there. The incident started with an exchange of fire with a police officer.
>>77083699
>I'm with /pol/ on everything,been here since start
Sure you were. Now back to redit with ya, off you go.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>77098999
We overthrew your government, as did many other colonies.
>>77099606
That fucking gun pose is so gay.
There's a dude on my fbook, getting married to a broad no less, doing that same pose and he looks more feminine than that broad.
>>77083699
If you take the guns from the people who would turn them in, only criminals will have them. Also, my rights are more important than your feelings
>>77083699
But then people would make homemade bombs and kill even more people.
Its a lose-lose situation and it will always be
>>77083699
Nope.
>>77083699
see
>>77083749
and get rekt faggot. shitty slav, you've been killing yourself until the '90s now you want to talk peace and joy.
go find an old minefield and collect daisies
>>77087826
Non Americans are frighteningly cucked.
Do you need your monarchs to post online as well?
>>77087719
>Any further gun restrictions or confiscations at this point would only harm the innocent
No
Even ig you could wave a magic wand and disappear all guns this would harm the innocent.
Granny isn't going to fight off 5 criminals with a sword or dagger or bow.
She can will and has fought of 5 criminals with a firearm.
Pic related
>>77083699
>only governments should have rights
European immigration should be banned along with muslims. Europeans are nothing but national communist scum.
>>77083828
>hello! I am a cuckold!
>AMA!
reddit.com
>>77083699
Simply put
>criminals won't give up their guns, no matter what laws or how we cuck civis out of their rights.
How shit brained are you? Otherwise I'm calling b8
>>77083699
Why are you Americans holding dearly on to your muslims?
I'm with /pol/ on everything,been here since start,but dammit,I don't understand MUH MUSLIMS fags.
LESS MUSLIMS=LESS SHOOTINGS=LESS DEAD=MORE CIVIL SOCIETY
I can't see any good argument for muslims.
>>77083699
>blaming the medium instead of the actual culprit
Remember when violent movies caused shootings? Remember when music caused shootings? Remember when vidya caused shootings? Guns are just the next scape goat, and the easiest to boot.Violent crime doesn't go down with the ban of guns.
>>77084012
Violent revolution is a human right.
>>77083699
Because no government anywhere should have a monopoly on lethal force over its citizenry.
Gun control won't work for America. They've been living with gun lust for so long that there's probably as many black market guns in circulation there as there are guns in total in any other gun-having country. Banning guns would be a stupidly minor obstruction to anyone who wanted to conduct a bit of a massacre. It's time we just Build A Wall around the whole country and write it off.
>>77083828
Except the media is trying to blame guns.
>>77086080
>yeah and we have one of the lowest murder rates in the world
you have one of the highest rates in western/central europe
>>77087897
carefull with that burn
you might burn his house down too
>>77083699
I can't see any good argument for Europeans.
I'm honestly curious to what liberals would blame next if we lived in a world where guns were suddenly banned
>>77101806
Whoa, that edge is pretty sharp for a vespa driving faggot whose country is going to be the next Greece
>>77083699
>OP is not /pol.
>>77084394
how many spics and blacks does Europe have compared to the US?
as retarded as they are, when it comes to crime they can outsmart law enforcements when it comes to obtaining or making illegal objects
>>77087521
baza post brate
>>77087521
Are you that edgy physicist?
>>77084394
SHALL
>>77083699
Because we will used them to overthrow the government you idiot. You see Europe? That won't happen here. Americans was born out of revolution and it will begin again after revolution.
