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Ban the AR-15 from Civilian Ownership
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No more games /pol/. No more whining about "muh guns" or "muh 2nd amendment rites". Here's the petition I made and I'm giving you one last chance to be on the right side of history. No one needs assault weapons for anything. Too many people are being shot and killed because of you. Signing this petition is your only way of redeeming yourself.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/ban-ar-15-civilian-ownership
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>>77077615
Need to ban Assault Muslims, they are far more dangerous.
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>>77077832
/thread
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>>77077615
so... Just the AR-15

Not the AR-10, AR-16, AR-20, FAR-15, STAG-15?

Not the Mini-14, M1A, M1 Garand?

Not the SCAR-L, H, or any of those variants
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>>77077615
whats to stop me from getting one off the dark net post ban once all current AR owners bank one the huge surge of demand.
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sounds to me like you've given into the AR ad campaign OP
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>>77077615

What did the guy use in the shooting? 50 dead, 50 injured is monster kill for a semi-auto. I'm thinking the guy looked like pic related walking in there.
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Just nuke the entire planet so everyone's feelings are never hurt again. After all the club was a gun free zone, how did Muhammad get a gun in the club if they were banned there? That honestly doesn't make any sense to me. Don't guns just vanish once they enter regulated zones that are anti-firearms?
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>>77077615

Fuck off.
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>>77077615
We need diversity control not gun control
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>>77077832
FPBP
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>>77078124
Nothing, also nothing to stop you from CNCing one in your garage from one of the hundreds of guides online.

Even shoeless pakis in mudhuts can figure out how to make guns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u2feHybSpw
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>>77078219
This is something I haven't been able to figure out. How did he get in with a long rifle?

Every time I've been to a bar or club with more than a hundred people in it, there was a cop at the door as well as armed security working for the venue.

Did Omar shoot his way in or something? How did he get in with his weapon?
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>>77077615
What u mean ban these???
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China bans civilian firearms

Yet these attacks still happened

Bin those knives!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_attacks_in_China_(2010-12)
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>>77077615
What's that? I should buy an AR-15 before they get banned? Good idea!.

Alternatively, here's a question. You want to ban one semi-auto rifle, when there are countless thousands of other models that do the exact same thing. Often with the exact same bullet. What possible result (aside from slowly making all guns illegal) could you be looking for? Feel good legislation is never an actual good thing.

Have a (You) for the bait thread, though. You deserve it.
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the big red marks means BAD
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No! How will i ever commit this crime without my trusty AR-15 by my side?? Aw man i was totally gonna rob this place, now I can never be a criminal again.. I'm gonna hang up my hat and start being a productive member of society like everyone else
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>>77078522

More than that, I'm a little jelly of Muhammad's prowess here. Those ARs are pretty beefy, swinging that fucker around in a crowded room and awkwardly trying to change out magazines mid rampage is probably harder than you'd think.

At some point even a fairy is going to think about just grabbing the barrel while he's changing out, so how did he keep it going to rack up that score? Muslim Kung Fu?
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>>77077615
There is nothing, absolutely nothing that will ever make me consider gun control for any reason.

No amount of poor dead children or fags will sway me. So long as a sapient mind graces this earth, they have the right to keep and bare arms.
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The shooter worked for a government agency where he was given clearance to purchase weapons. The FBI investigated him twice and let him go both times. Looks like the government failed again.
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>>77077615
come and take mine bitch
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>>77077615
>expedienthomemadefirearms.fuckyou
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>>77077615
Just the AR-15? Can you explain to me in legal detail what about the AR-15 makes it stand out as an 'assault weapon' among other semi-automatic rifles? While you're at it care to define 'assault weapon' in a way that legally makes sense so you can actually write sensible and enforceable legislation about it?
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>>77077615
Here's the problem: It's too late! That's right, only law abiding citizens will turn in their fire arms. Do you honestly believe a cold blood savage would surrender his weapon to the state?
Anti-Guns BTFO
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>>77077615
#notallAR15s
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>>77078894
This. Why the fuck weren't they all charging the fucker? Fucking faggots.
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>>77079848
Also, we are in the age where things like this exist.
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>>77080085
Where can I get the cheapest on of these?
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>>77080085
wtf is that thing?
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>>77080401
confirmed no gun.
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Just bought a M16A2 upper and ghost lower today.
fuck isis
fuck liberals
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>>77080547
no shit sherlock
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This right here is why nobody in any important position or office gives a shit about petitions.
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>>77080401
Its a mold to pour your own AR15 lower.

The lower is the only part that you have to buy through an FFL dealer which requires a background check. All the other parts can be shipped directly to your house.

>>77080323
The mold or an AR?
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>>77080709
it's a receiver mold for building an AR15. Everything beyond the receiver is just the cycle of operation parts, the receiver is the foundation of the weapon.

I wouldn't use a mold for it to be honest, desu, but it gets the job done and if your goal is quantity over quality then you'll want one.
A good barrel with proper rifling is harder to make in my opinion.
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>>77077615

Fuck off reddit.
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come and take
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>>77077615
Baning Guns in USA is Baning freedoom, And if the goverment Will ban Guns soon Mode right Will be banned
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>>77077615
#NotAllAR15s
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I'm really getting tired of all these fucking bait threads. Everyday I see a "well /pol/?" or a "/pol/ BTFO" and 99% of the time they're using a Occupy Democrats pic straight off of Kikebook. Then you get threads like these where he pretends to be a left leaner trying to piss people off. Same with all those "why do you hate Muslims, /pol/?" threads where they cherry pick some photo of a single Muslim doing 1 good thing and act like the whole religion is the most peaceful in the world.
The quality of the board has been down lately.
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>>77080085
Considering that one dude in Texas managed to get a plastic lower to work, would an aluminum cast work as well? Could I set up a quick backyard furnace, melt some soda cans, and walk away with a functional aluminum AR-15 lower (sans a bit of cleanup)?
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>>77078365
Yes.
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>ban the means, not the people

How retarded can you get
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>>77077615

But that's a nice gun and I want to own one if I ever move to America
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>>77077615

Yeah.

Because if there is one thing Muslims won't do it's touch an AK.
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>>77077615
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
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>>77078653
>I should buy an AR-15 before they get banned?

You may not realize it, but you are purposely giving into NRA propaganda and the gun corporate lobby who want to sell guns.
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>>77078219

Cho got 32 with glocks.

Bryant got 35 with semi-auto.

Brevik got something like 90 with semi-autos.

The last two got a bunch in wide open spaces too.
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>>77077615
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>>77081966
>You may not realize it, but you are purposely giving into liberal propaganda and the gun control lobby who want to ban guns.
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>>77081966
Possibly, but then it's not like anyone really needs to pressure me into buying firearms, I own several already. I don't actually have an AR-15 yet, but I plan to get one eventually.
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>>77082180
>but then it's not like anyone really needs to pressure me into buying firearms

But you are. You are buying it soly because of propaganda.
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>>77077832
every time FPBP
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Op is a fag. I will defend my life and liberty at all costs. Get bent bitch. If you want to be vulnerable to assault Muslims...that's your prerogative, leave everyone else out of your fantasy.
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>>77078894
Faggots were too pussy to try to save their own lives. They, like most leftists, have been neutered psychologically and so become totally passive in the face of violent confrontation.
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>>77082237
Ever think they want one to just shoot?

Not ever ar owner wants to fight the gubment or dreams about being an operator you narrow minded fuck.
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>>77077615
Guns in the wrong hands are killing people.

Most killings are carried out with handguns... Why are not not pushing for the ban of ALL guns, rather you want the ban of the AR-15 specifically. If it was about the use of guns in killings, you'd be pushing for ALL guns... So yeah fuck off with your shitty ass petition. BAN THE MUSLIMS CARRYING OUT THE KILLINGS,
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>>77078894
The second he fired the first shot an enormous space around him would have opened up as everyone fled for their lives. It was also three hours after the initial engagement until cops moved in so he had plenty of time to strut around and kill people who were hiding
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>>77081573
Because they refuse to do anything about radical Islam- that would be racist somehow, and faggot leftists don't want to be socially unacceptable.
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>>77077615

As if these shootings are real anyway.
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>>77078049
No, just the AR15. That will stop ALL MURDERS. It's not mentally unstable, uneducated fucks from deserts will find other ways to kill people. So we just have to ban one thing to make it better. Oh we should ban pressure cookers too I guess. But mainly just AR15s
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No one on /pol/ is old enough to recognize this pasta.
Zim zam ruined this board.
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>>77077615
So I can get gunned down, unarmed, like a herd animal by an insane muzzie? No thanks.
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>>77077615
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Banning Muslims and niggers would be a lot more effective than banning AR-15s. They're little pussy guns anyway. I could build a way better mass shooting arsenal without any .223
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http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/installation-of-autonomous-mini-guns-in-all-us
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>>77077615

this, so much this.

america has a much higher rate of gun related massacres than australia, hmm.. i wonder why that is... could it be because we don't have assault-styled-weapons?? yes... obviously.
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>>77081522
Aluminum lower blanks are like $20 each or less. You can get them out of China or wherever. As long as they are 80% machined or less they are NOT considered a firearm in any way. Look up 80% lowers online. You can get ar15 ar10 1911 etc. Very handy and your legal right to make your own gun in USA, even in california last time I checked. I can machine my own even up here in cuckland and give it a serial# and register it, no problems. Freedom will live no matter what the Marxists try
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>>77082664
>Banning Muslims and niggers would be a lot more effective
yeah... and grinding amerifat society to a halt... unless you know how to maintain hydro power, sewers, electricity grids et al.
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>>77082703
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>>77078579

the empty photo frames hanging on the wall with the original data insert is maybe a sadder tale than the gay nightclub shooting.
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>>77082613

If you think that there were more bayonet than musket ball wounds in the Civil War you're a god damned retard.
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>>77082679
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>>77078579
>>77082821

I'm just kidding, anon. Please don't shoot anything up.
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>>77082811
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>>77082679
>moslems
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>>77077615
I'm gonna buy one of these now, purely to spite you.
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>>77082828

america has more than 133 shootings per year...
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>>77082778

More like work at Mcdonalds,collect food stamps, or own a gas station. I think we can handle that.
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>>77077615
>one last chance
>or i won't like you anymore
OHHHHHH NOOOOOOOO W HAT SHOULD WE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?

wait, I know!

Tell you to "fuck off".
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>>77082613

I'm too tired to actually do a political argument over this, but this 'infograph' is pretty stupid.

>used more for bayonetting
Hardly. For one, the muskets of these "Civil War" militias would have been rifled at this point in history, pushing engagement distances far more than it ever had been previously. When bayonet charged were ordered, there was hardly ever a melee either. If you had the advantage in numbers and charged with bayonets- chances are the men you are charging are just going to withdraw. If they don't withdraw it's because they have the advantage and charging is stupid.

Also this thing appears to be advocating for the State Militias of the Civil War, which means they are advocating for citizens to be armed with the same equipment the Federal troops would. Citizens could own cannons, and often State Militias had their own Infantry, Cavalry, and Artillery arms.
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>>77080987
Is that a makarov?
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>>77082778
>he actually thinks niggers PROVIDE a service to the US

oh australia. never change. even if you did, nobody would visit you anyways
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>>77082778
>unless you know how to maintain hydro power, sewers, electricity grids et al.
I've never met a competent nigger or sandnigger engineer. The token diversity hires I work with are all dark versions of Wally from the dilbert comics, only are not nearly as clever about hiding their uselessness. There's more than enough white engineers to go around.
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Suck my dick.
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>>77082778
Muzzies are 2% of the pop, so they don't matter and the only thing dindus don't actually do is work.

Get rid of them all and you get net positive results.
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>>77078522

Club was a "gun free zone". No armed security, and the "no guns" sign means that no one could possibly ever bring a gun in.
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>>77083238
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>>77077615
> ban a particular gun because it looks scary
> doesnt understand my Remington Model 8 made in 1944 is FAR MORE POWERFUL

> 5.56 nato M855 (the standard ar15/m16 round): 1974 joules of energy
> 300 savage: 3506 joules of energy
> 30/06: ~3900 joules in my elk/boar loads

and yes, they are ALL magazine fed semi-auto rifles which are functionally identical to the AR 15

i have a couple AR's the aforementioned model 8 (postal inspector version w/ 20 rnd magazine lulz) a 30/06 M1 Garand and a few other rifles as well. the only rifle i own that is weaker than an AR is a 22 squirrel gun.

hell i have pistols that pack more energy than a 5.56 nato


this is why dipshit NoGunz faggots who try to tell us what guns we shouldnt have always make fools of themselves
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>>77077615
You should get a better proxy, trudeau
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#BanAssaultMuslims
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>>77083269
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>>77083373
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SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
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>>77083429
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>>77083137
nice infographic.

Guess where it goes?
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>>77081966
> NRA propaganda
the NRA doesnt sell guns you gaylord.

when you faggots try to ban guns you increase sales for EVERY firearms manufacturer.

keep chirping about how evil guns are muh nigga, youre making my stock portfolio fatter.
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>>77083454
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>>77083460
Not an argument
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>>77083460
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>>77077615
I hope you die painfully
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>>77083566
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>>77083702
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>>77083491
>no source

Not a very good infograph to be honest desu senpai
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>>77083730
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>>77083842
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>>77083993
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Banning all nonwhites from first world countries is a far better step.
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>>77084042
How much do you have saved, based anon?

As per usual, gun grabbers get btfo but never look at the facts

Also, post with sage in the options field so these threads don't get bumped
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>>77082821

Dude, you just posted the best observation ever. I saw the pic the first time and was like "sick gunz bro!" but now I am #WithHer.
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>>77084099
I accidentally deleted my whole folder during a porn cleaning but I am getting it back as I see it posted.
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>>77082703
Nothing to do with your tiny population relative to the US?
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>>77077615
#80%freedom
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>>77082703
You had a lower rate while you still had them as well fuckwit.

you still have the same rate post ban as you did preban.
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>>77082487
>Not banning all guns and having literally ZERO gun crime
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>>77081986
Breivik killed about 70 with his mini-14, I think the total kill count was about 90 but this is taking the people he killed with his bomb into account.
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>>77084710
Why don't we ban all crime instead?
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>>77084772
The UK is doing that it's why you have to be 18+ and have a government issued license to have a spoon otherwise this could happen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VDvgL58h_Y
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>>77084719
69 with the rifle, 7 with the bomb.
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>>77077615
Where's the ban muslims petition?
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>>77077615
>>77077615
>>77077615
>>77077615
>>77077615
>>77077615
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>>77084772
That's called "The Dutch Method"
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>>77077615
Civilian massacres on a regular basis is the price we pay for freedom. We COULD get rid of the guns, but then we wouldn't be free, would we? We'd be like one of those faggy european countries where almost nobody gets shot. Booring.

The streets must run red for our forefathers!
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>>77077615
>1 post by this ID
Every fucking time. Nice job dummies.
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>>77085332
People still get shot there but they're not free anyway.
What a trade-off!
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>>77085332
>We COULD get rid of the guns,

Literally can not happen.


>where almost nobody gets shot.

Almost nobody gets shot here

>Using the colloquial definition of "spree shooting" (targeted attack on a public place), there are roughly 30 fatalities in the average year.

>Using the FBI definiton (any shooting event involving 4+ fatalities) there are something in the ballpark of 120.

>Either way, it's statistical noise. A complete non-issue in a nation of 320,000,000 people.
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>>77085607
Gun victims don't sound as rampant if you only count victims 4 or more at at time, huh?
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>>77085721
gun victims aren't even rampant
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>>77085923
How many people have to be shot before it's too many? Just give me a nice round number.
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>>77085721
Is this supposed to be an argument?

gun crime is literally statistical noise mostly perpetrated by felon gang members on felon gang members and the odd madman.

>well obviously the answer is to regulate hundreds of millions of pieces of private property due to the actions of a minute subsection of the population!

>if I don't have an argument I will argue based on feelings!


How about some black gangmember control?

how about some crazy people control?

No?

oh no that would be infringing on peoples rights?

but we can cry about guns because they are big black scary boomsticks that make you pee your pants and the world would be a better place if only you could just get rid of all the baby murder sticks right?

damn all the statistical evidence proving that only 0.003% of guns in the US are used to kill people

MUCH less for mass murders


we obviously need to legislate tens of millions of peoples rights away based on a fraction of a percentage.

Neck yourself faggot.
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>>77086026
>Just give me a nice round number.
6 million
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>>77086026
SIX GORILLION
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>>77086026
7 billion or so.
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>>77086026
HOW MANY MORE CHILDREN HAVE TO DIE BEFORE YOU SUPPORT COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL??HOW MANY MORE CHILDREN HAVE TO DIE BEFORE YOU SUPPORT COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL??HOW MANY MORE CHILDREN HAVE TO DIE BEFORE YOU SUPPORT COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL??HOW MANY MORE CHILDREN HAVE TO DIE BEFORE YOU SUPPORT COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL??HOW MANY MORE CHILDREN HAVE TO DIE BEFORE YOU SUPPORT COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL??HOW MANY MORE CHILDREN HAVE TO DIE BEFORE YOU SUPPORT COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL??HOW MANY MORE CHILDREN HAVE TO DIE BEFORE YOU SUPPORT COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL??HOW MANY MORE CHILDREN HAVE TO DIE BEFORE YOU SUPPORT COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL??HOW MANY MORE CHILDREN HAVE TO DIE BEFORE YOU SUPPORT COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL??HOW MANY MORE CHILDREN HAVE TO DIE BEFORE YOU SUPPORT COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL??HOW MANY MORE CHILDREN HAVE TO DIE BEFORE YOU SUPPORT COMMON SENSE GUN CONTROL??

THE ANSWER:
>all of them you motherfucking shitposter
not even a million human lives are worth the tyranny a government has over 360 million
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>>77086026
320 million should not be infriged
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>>77083242
How come no guns zones are still a thing? They are literally the reason why mass shootings are successful.
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>>77086251
>How come no guns zones are still a thing?
liberals in charge of public safety
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>>77078894
You've probably been asleep but we've gone over this. One faggot literally barricades the emergency exit from the outside and basically left everyone to die trying to get out. Fast forward to 3:20
http://kstp.com/news/florida-nightclub-shooting-eyewitness/4166140/
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>>77086406
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>>77084349
>go to wiki on puckle gun
> A rate of 9 rounds per minute compared favourably to musketeers of the period, who could be expected to fire between 2 and 5 rounds per minute depending on the quality of the troops, with experienced troops expected to reliably manage 3 rounds a minute under fair conditions; it was however inferior in fire rate to earlier repeating weapons such as the Kalthoff repeater which fired up to six times faster.
>Kalthoff repeater apparently had a rate of 54 rounds a minute
Ban assault muskets.
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Why do people in the UK get shot less? Are the british just friendlier than americans?
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>>77077615
FUCK OFF YOU COMMI CUNT....... IT IS OUR RIGHT TO HAVE FIREARMS

CANT YOU FUCKWITS READ ....


"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"

fucking retards
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>>77085332
>We'd be like one of those faggy european countries where almost nobody gets shot. Booring.

The paris attacks are not that long ago, family member.
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>>77077615
sounds like the CRY BULLIES
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>>77086738

We get stabbed, attacked and mugged more to make up for it.

Also

>Absolute population numbers
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>>77086738
There are over 300 million people in the united states. There are just over 60 million in the UK. Weird how a huge population has such a drastic effect on numbers like that.
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>>77086026
All of them
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>>77086738
They have less guns?

>hurr gotcha if we ban guns less people will get shot!

Again, the US is not england.

1. we don;t want gun control
2. we can make guns in our garages very easily
3. there will be millions that you could not find
4. criminals keep theirs, law abiders would not be able to defend themselves with them.


gun bans are retard policy for retard countries, we already have defensive gun uses massively outweighing criminal shootings, what more do you want?
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>>77077615
Can we PLEASE be logical for once and ban ALL guns? How many white racist nutjobs killing millions of innocents does it take to get you fascists to finally ban guns, especially the ones with barrel shrouds and high capacity assault clips?
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>>77083566
They seem to have overlooked the fact that Rod Ansell was a paranoid drug dealer and had murdered a police man.
This is pure bullshit, the cops weren't after him or his guns, he ambushed a Police car and brought it on himself.
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>>77087036
I didn't peg you greasy wops for being shitposters.
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>>77086997
>1. we don;t want gun control
do you speak for everyone in america?
>2. we can make guns in our garages very easily
i'd like to see you try
>3. there will be millions that you could not find
it's called 'metal detectors'
>4. criminals keep theirs, law abiders would not be able to defend themselves with them.
what if NEITHER side had guns. whoa!
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>>77077615
this is what liberal cunts do when criminals do shit.....

Guns dont kill people PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE

WHY NOT MAKE MURDER ILLEGAL..ooh thats right it is
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>>77087221
>Criminal has a knife

You just cucked your own cute comic.
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>ban the AR-15

if there was ever a need to prove this is about damaging the gun industry more than save lives, the motion to ban JUST the AR-15 is that proof

we're talking about the most popular civilian rifle in the country

these calls for bans are nothing but desperate attempts to manipulate the industry

top tier jewry
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>>77087206
>do you speak for everyone in america?

>more guns than people

>obviously we all want gun control


>i'd like to see you try
I have made multiple

would you like some links on how to make shotguns with a trip to home depot?

>we are going to metal detect every square foot of 9,000,000+sq km
>not to mention however deep you can dig


>what if NEITHER side had guns. whoa!
see above, you cannot get them and you will never have a scenario where neither does.

The best you will be able to achieve is getting a buch of law abiding cucks to turn theirs in

I will be keeping mine so I will become a criminal thanks to your laws

the violent criminals will also be keeping theirs, have fun with your massive murder spikes when hundreds of thousands of defensive gun uses per year disappear.

OH, also violent criminals can just knife/beat people to death since they have no guns.
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>>77086738

20k a year of those deaths are suicides

10k are murders, of that 10k murders 8k are done by niggers

so that leaves 2k gun murder out of 270 million whites, Asians and hispanics.

Of that only 1600 murders by whites with guns.
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>>77087532
across 9 million sq km with hundreds of millions of guns lying around.

It's almost like guns are a non issue.
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>>77087206
Majority doesn't want gun control

See picture

metal detectors detect more than just guns. You'll be digging up a lot of paper clips and dimes. Also, no one buries their guns

A criminal who wants to rob, rape, or kill you will still do it with out a gun. Maybe we should have everyone but the police be in straight jackets when they go outside.
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>>77087118
Dude the Assault Rifle 15 is not the only problematic gun. 45mm Glocks are deadly and so are Assault Kalasnikows.
We must ban assault guns to protect people.
inb4 muh 2nd amendment
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>>77087687
ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>77077615

What if people hoax giving up their guns, like you hoax the news?
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>>77077615

troll in the dungeon
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>>77077615
wew, a ban on ownership, that'll stop people getting bits of steel pipe and charcoal.
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How about a compromise? Just ban Democrats from having guns.
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Ban the AR-15?
What the fuck would that even change?
You could still have an AR-10 or an Ak-47, HK416, FN SCAR and every other Rifle.

Hell, you Machineguns would still be legal.
You want to ban an AR-15 while people can run around with a fucking M249?
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>>77086425
that faggot better be crucified?
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>>77088611
You think the retards that want to take guns away know anything about them?
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>>77082734
I am aware of that, but there's something satisfying with the idea of casting my own lower from a mold. It'd be a neat project.
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>>77077615
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>>77088921
I've tested this so many times that it hurts.

None of them have any idea what they're talking about.
They want to ban everything, they just attack whatever they think is the easiest target at the time.

In my country, their current target is a fucking lever-action shotgun. Not every lever-action shotgun, just one of them.
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>>77077615
If you do that, you will have thousands of Bataclan.
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>>77077615
We need to ban paid shills like you juden
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>>77077615
NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FFFFFGUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKK OOOOOOOFFFFFFFFF
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>>77077615
Your a turd nugget that stinks like a dead mans butthole. Choke yourself out for me ......... Please.
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