Ok, you want guns?
Fine, as our laws state, you can have a Musket.
What? What's wrong? A Musket is a gun. What's the problem?
When that law was created, only the Musket existed.
Therefore, that's the gun the law was referring to.
Problems?
>>77047612
i'm not giving up my AR-15 you faggot
Now I sit back and watch as the Republicunts roll in and piss themselves trying to defend the NRA
>>77047612
>pic related, an "assault" rifle from those days.
>>77047779
but the law was referring to Muskets, therefore, you cannot own an Ar-15 if you support that law.
so, are you still for that law?
>>77047910
Where's the word musket in the law then you cuck?
>>77047612
Your asshole will look like the end of a musket after you're fucked by the government. All guns now and future will be legal.
>>77047612
Where does it say musket in the second amendment?
And there were other kinds of (fire)arms in use when it was written.
>>77047612
>>77047612
Heh the ol muskets shitpost
well shitposted op B^)
Shoo troll
>>77047612
Please tell me where it says musket
I'll wait
>>77047873
leftists can't refute this.
>>77047612
>>77047612
>When that law was created, only the Musket existed.
>Therefore, that's the gun the law was referring to.
>Problems?
Nice b8 thread you will get a lot of (you)'s
I wonder how triggered lefties would get when you point out that when laws were put in place there were only 2 genders and that marriage is between a man and a woman
heh, kids....
>>77047612
You have it in your head that we're trying to reach a compromise.
No. And fuck off.
Who are you talking to?
Whats wrong with guns?
Mad about the shooting?
Than blame the cause. MUSLIMS.
You're just another spineless coward.
Attacking safe targets because you're a powerless, putrid little cunt.
>>77047612
When the first amendment was written, we only had printing presses. We no longer have freedom of press on anything else.
>>77047612
M8 nowhere does it say musket. Please go die in a car fire.
1/10 since I replied.
>>77048279
the puckle gun used regular "round" bullets for regular enemies, and square bullets for muslims... square kinda sucked, but it fucked up whatever it shot and was designed to scare the fuck out of mudslimes, truly a based gun
>>77047612
>OMG AR15 WASNT AROUND THEY NEVER WOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THAT
Or the Internet or any other new age invention that is covered by our rights you blithering idiot. Think before you speak
>>77047910
Where does it refer to muskets?
>>77047612
paid 10 bucks a month faithfully for 23 years
i dont believe it
>>77047612
it says ARMS,not guns.
anything the military can use,the people can also use.
the people can't give the military weapons they don't have the right to use.
>>77047612
>>77047910
I know this is a bain thread but no where in the 2nd ammendment does it limit what is an arm is
>>>77048325
>>77047612
>making the minimum payment every period
>complaining that it's the bank's fault when lack basic financial sense
>>OP77047612
You want free speech, fine. It applies to spoken word (in person) and print. The only mediums that existed in the time it was written. Speech that offends the government on radio, tv, Internet, or telephone is banned and subjects you to immediate arrest. Thats what the amendment was referring to so what's the problem?
>>77047612
>23 years
>only paid $32,700
HOW?
>>77047873
Wait, how could they have known it existed when the Constitution was written in 1776, 3 years prior to that weapon's availability? Am I being baited?
Stop bumping shill threads pls
>>77049595
Probably majored in lesbian pottery or bumblebee dance
>>77049629
They could have altered it, most of them were still alive 3 years later.
>>77049629
The second amendment was ratified December 1791 iirc.
>>77049783
Or Greek Economics.
When the law was written, television, radio, and the internet didn't exist.
You can go ahead and have your free speech in person and in print, because that's the free speech the law was referring to
>Not actually selling bear arms
>>77049629
Double checked date on image, constitution was 1787 you fucking retard.
>>77049055
>>77049595
It's actually roughly $120 a month for 23 years which is pretty sizable
>>77049629
>I failed school
The bill of rights was not originally in the constitution HURRRR.
>>77047612
>>77047612
>Problems
Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot,
I don't know why people keep this shut up. There is not a force on this planet that will make us want to give up our ability to fairly defend ourselves.
>>77049434
This. I work in the financial industry and this shit tiggers my autism.
>>77047612
>Professional soldiers who watched as weapons adavanced from war to war thought there would never be another technological advancement after 1789.
Sounds legit.
>people will respond to this thread seriously.
>>77047612
Well yes, because what you suggest is unconstitutional. The Founders make no provision of what kind of arms you may own, and this is of course by design, since when American patriots pushed off British oppressors, most U.S. artillery (cannons, mortars, etc.) and its entire navy were privately owned by citizens, not the state.
I'm fine with you trying to ban guns, but do it legally - with a Constitutional Amendment. Any attempts to do it any other way are treasonous and should be treated as such.
>>77049629
1776 is declaration of indepedence retard
>>77047612
Sir, your post has been determined to be unpatriotic and you're under arrest for anti-American expression.
What, you have a right to freedom of speech? Oh, well Internet posts, televised broadcasts, phone calls, emails, and video calls don't fall under that. Yeah, see, those didn't exist at the time the first amendment was written, so it doesn't apply.
This was clearly the founding fathers' intention. Now come with me, we're taking a trip to Cuba.
>right to bear arms
>only guns are arms
fuck you op i'm keeping my sword
>>77047612
>only the musket existed
Come on dude.
>>77047612
>change ar-15 names to musket15
>liberals btfo again
>>77050096
I don't even work anywhere near finance, I just don't lack common sense
>>77049210
it doesn't, therefore I have right to nukes, this is now a right to nuke thread
I'm building my own nuke and nobody can legally stop me, Australia I need Nuke materials, help me out
Sooooo we as lowly slaves should only have a butter knife and and a rape whistle to protect ourselves from any enemy.
foreign and domestic.
You are a genius OP.
Totally not a retarded faggot.
>>77049947
>because that's the free speech the law was referring to
and yet thats the type most often restricted, curiouser and curiouser
>>77047612
>current year
>usury STILL isn't outlawed
Why is this allowed? Will we ever catch up to the Muslim world?
>>77050024
wow that Piers is a cunt,
>>77049629
>these are the people that smugly tell you your wrong
>>77050548
Yeah nah fuck yourself cunt, you want to limit others to a musket but you want a nuke, there are others that want that, they are called dictators, now go play in traffic like the good autist you are.
>>77047786
we don't defend the NRA... we defend the 2nd Amendment, with AR15's if need be.
>>77050229
>with a Constitutional Amendment.
this one is actually impossible as considering the bill of rights is the clause that brings the constitution into place, any attempt to dismantle these rights dissolves the constitution
many states have already passed legislation confirming this
>>77047612
Am actual solution OP kudos.
As a person who has never shot a gun, are there and guns I can find on the ground and know exactly how to use it?
Any claims that the Founding Fathers would have had no concept of repeating arms is false, because they existed but were a toy primarily for the rich; soldiers and the common man usually stuck to the cheaper, more robust option: one- or two-barrelled flintlocks that had to be reloaded after each shot. If you support disarming the common man or restricting him to primitive arms, you are giving the 1% a significant edge over the proletariat. You fucking classist piece of shit.
Pic related is the Cookson Repeater, a 14-shot lever-action blackpowder repeating rifle that was invented in 1750. The Puckle Gun and Girandoni air rifles have already been posted.
Hurr durr repeal the first amendment because the internet didn't exist in the 1700s
>>77047612
Thats the same arguement that sunni muslims use when they tell other muslims they are not following the literal meaning of their moon god.
The constitution and bill of rights is capable of broad interpretation in a literal sense, otherwise the text would be impossible to apply to modern times. Otherwise your arguing like a stupid muslim, come on mate don't be one of those cunts.
Muskets = guns = the government is able regulate any type of gun that it wants
>>77050548
A nuke isn't a gun nigger.
>>77047612
Your an idiot.
Back then you could buy canons.
Can I buy tanks?
The law is intended for us to be able to form a militia, why can't I buy tanks?
>>77050839
>you want to limit others to a musket
??
where did I ever even consider this treasonous viewpoint that should rightly bring anyone who holds it to a public gallows?
I just need some bro in Australia to hook me up with the raws so I can start building my bombs of mass destruction
I heard Australia has the purest shit out there for nukes
>>77047910
it doesn't say we can't have cannons. they had cannons.
tfw people are afraid the government will take control of everybody whenever they get the chance.
>>77047612
Tick, tock.
>>77050969
Well people are a lot meaner with their first amendment nowadays. They want people to kill themselves.
high tier b8 my friend
>>77049629
>the Constitution was written in 1776
>amerilard education
>mfw this is probably bait
>>77051053
it doesn't say gun in the 2nd amendment it says arms, a nuke is a type of armament therefore it counts and is protected for every American landowning taxpayer to have a right to own.
>>77047910
and our founding fathers only had parchments and horses to transport messages, so i guess the internet should be illegal too.
(also its not a law, its a constitutional birthright.)
You were looking for this meme
>>77047612
>turned a small loan of $26,400 into -$78,000
>>77047612
I guess the 1st amendment only covers stuff from that era also.
>>77051162
>tfw people are afraid the government will take control of everybody whenever they get the chance.
they already did apparently just by rattling their sabers, you cucks fell for the bait once again
>>77047873
>tfw I made this image for /k/ almost three years ago and someone kept it.
Feels good to know it's being put to good use.
>>77047612
Because the founding fathers didn't realize technology would advance....
>>77047612
Oh no its retarded.
>>77051314
>parchments and horses to transport messages,
they also had birds, birds were the internet until that telegraph came along
So has any of you faggets considered that that line might have just been written to allow every willing and able person to enlist - to bear arms in the defense of a country?
>>77051213
>$15,000 in 2004
>$100,000 in 2014
fuuuuuuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
>>77047612
>paying back only 3$ a day for 23 years
you deserve it
>>77051440
Franklin especially had no concept of invention or innovation.
>>77051518
because a standing army was forbidden when the bill of rights was written
>>77047612
I'm sure it's been brought up, but you are literally retarded if you think muskets were the only gun around at that time.
>>77051518
Yes, except the US Government has declared that the United States officially has two federal-level militias. The first is the Organized Militia, made up of the National Guard, Coast Guard, etc. The second is made up of all able-bodied males from age 18-45, or 18-62 if a military veteran. By law, every American male on /k/ is part of the miltiia.
>>77047612
>When that law was created, only the Musket existed.
So you think the 2nd amendment changes because of technological advances?
>>77051327
Don't forget this German matchlock revolver from 1580.
>>77047612
>tfw we let illiterates vote
>>77047612
No problem
>niggers and bitches cant vote
>niggers are slaves
>white men rule the country
>no cars, only horse
>bring back natives so we can eliminate them again
>your logic
>>77047612
The purpose of owning the weaponry was clear. To prevent the government from taking the power away from the citizens.
That's right. THE VERY BASIS FOR THIS CONSITUTIONAL RIGHT'S EXISTENCE IS TO RESIST THE GOVERNMENT THAT MAY BE TYRANNICAL.
It didn't specify "ONLY MUSKETS", like you are posturing, did it faggot?
whatever, this is just a shill thread trying to 'twigga' us. OP needs to be banned for blatant shitposting. One thing to do it in a thread, but to shitpost A thread. Get out. Reee.
>>77047612
Come get my semis pussy.
>>77047612
>>77047779
Fpbp
>>77051822
Those Germans sure have a way with weapons.
Protip: OP hasn't posted since >>77047910
SHALL
>>77050548
A nuke isn't something the average enlisted soldier will have dip shit
>>77047612
The second amendment does not say "the right to bear muskets."
>>77051327
Exactly. This.
Thread over, lib cuck swines.
>>77051130
You can.
>>77051213
>make college available for all
>this actually means let anyone into college who isn't a white male
>create retarded fields of study with zero chance of a career
>lower standards for anyone who isn't a white male
>loan money recklessly to people who have no idea what they're doing and have no financial sense
You are far better off working before going to college unless you're entering an established program for an industry that hasn't been gutted by H1B1.
You DO NOT need $40,000 in loans to be a fucking barista.
>>77050668
I hope that's a woman or I don't know anymore.
A WELL REGULATED SAGE BEING NEEDED TO KEEP SHITTY SHITPOSTS AT BAY, THE RIGHT FOR FAGGOTS AND PLEBBITORS TO BE MOWED DOWN
>>77047612
Ok, you want free speech?
Fine, as our laws state, you can have a hand operated printing press.
What? What's wrong? A hand operated printing press is speech. What's the problem?
When that law was created, only the hand operated printing press existed.
Therefore, that's the speech the law was referring to.
Problems?
Ok, you want religion?
Fine, as our laws state, you can have a version of Protestant Christianity.
What? What's wrong? Protestant Christianity is a religion. What's the problem?
When that law was created, only Protestant Christianity existed in America.
Therefore, that's the religion the law was referring to.
Problems?
Ok, you want the right to vote?
Fine, as our laws state, a property owning white man can have the right to vote.
What? What's wrong? A property owning white man is a voter. What's the problem?
When that law was created, only property owning white males could vote.
Therefore, that's the voter the law was referring to.
Problems?
>>77049629
>I failed history: the post
>>77047612
>arms=muskets
Want to know how I know you're a faggot?
>>77047612
kek, disregarding anything you have to say
come take it
>>77049629
>>>77047873
>Constitution was written in 1776, 3 years prior to that weapon's availability?
That was the declaration of independence, dummy
>>77053111
amen brother man
>>77047612
>When that law was created, only the Musket existed.
Hahahahaha, nope. Here's your (You).
The 2nd amendment says "arms". Not "guns" or "muskets"
2/10 I replied
when the first amendment was created, only quills and ink were available. High capacity data transmission was never intended by the founding fathers. Ban OP for abusing the first amendment.
Im not scrolling through this whole thread so if anyone already said this, sorry. Any muzzle loaded rifle or shotgun that uses black powder or a black powder substitute is considered an antique firearm therefore exempt from federal firearm laws. A felon can own a "musket."
>>77047612
why do you do this?
LEt me have my guns, you filthy faggot go buy guns yourself you can see I have no hostility to civilians, fucking peace of shit, fuck.
>>77047612
This is one of the dumbest bait thread openings I have ever read. It scares me to think that there are people that think this is a legitimate argument against owning scary black guns.
But here's your (you) and a sage.
>>77047910
George Washington upgraded his shit.
>>77047612
AM I BEING DETAINED?
>>77047612
>borrowed 26k
>paid back 32k (8k over what was owed)
>still owe 45k even after she paid the whole 26k off and 8k more
WHAT THE FUCK AM I LOOKING AT?
>>77049434
>gets ~10% APR student loan
>pays less than 10% a year
WOW
>goes to college
>somehow fails to take Mandatory economics class
>>77054273
Interest
>>77048022
holy fuck you gun people are delusional
>>77047612
Goodbye Internet and broadcast TV for that matter.
>>77054415
why do you do this?
this is irrational and illogical, why do you deny more power/protection?
>>77050749
why do you think everyone hates him, almost as bad as john oliver
OP left. Y'all nigs yelling at air
>>77054415
>holy fuck you gun people are delusional
at least not in the same way as those whom like yourself had a strong belief in the moral cause of people like Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot
we win't having no genocides thanks to retarded noguns morons
not happening
>>77054874
people need to call him and just tell him to give up, thats it's over and he needs to retire or retool himself completely, why the fuck do broadcasters only portray one side of a situation anyway? aren't they supposed to investigate and communicate balanced coverage?
fuck these people they aren't even entertaining
>>77054415
Fuck off, swine.
Does the first amendment not apply to the internet and TV then?
>>77047612
Pickle Gun invented in 1718 was an early form of semi-automatic firearm.
OP not only is the math in your pic common core tier levels of retard but also your argument is dumber than a nigger getting lost at a kkk convension
>>77047612
where does it say "musket" in the Constitution?
>>77055113
They are Talking heads with no value at all.
>>77047910
The first amendment was referring to spoken words and documents on wood products et cetera. You cannot have the internet.
>>77047612
Pic related right you anchor loser piece if human debris?
Kill yourself with a highly acidic cocktail
>>77047910
Also, not a law, a natural right to tools of defense enshrined in a constitutional amendment, also places no limit on the type of arms. And never mentions the word musket. You are so stupid.
Well at the time Islam wasn't known to the founding fathers
That means the first amendment doesn't apply to it, or any other religion in South America, Africa, or Asia
Wait what, you support Islam, then how do you support the law?
>>77055337
the guns were very primitive then.
if the Fathers were alive, they would not support the 2nd amendment whatsoever.
>>77056103
Die liberal scum
>>77047612
Ok ill take a puckle autocannon please. Make it 5.
>>77050548
AM I BEING DETAINED: The Post
>>77056103
You can't just make a statement based upon nothing at all and expect us all to treat it as a valid argument.
If the founding fathers were alive today to hear rap, to see extreme pornography become ubiquitous, to see post modern "art", they wouldn't support the 1st amendment. See? Anyone can play that game. I can't prove what I just said at all, nor can I disprove it. You are stupid.
>>77052758
It's a woman anon.
A woman with a penis.
>>77047612
>The founding fathers didn't have the television or internet when they wrote the 1st amendment
>Therefore there's no free speech on television or the internet
>>77047612
I love this argument!
OK, you want freedom of speech? No problem! All you get is either your voice to other people in person, hand written notes or a human powered printing press that prints 1 page at a time!
What? Whats wrong? Thats what they had back in the day when the law was passed!
You don't need to voice your opinion via the internet or have any access to it to share your opinion!
fagget. die in a fire. 2/10 for making me reply
>>77056103
You could literally own a warship capable of shelling a city you dumb fucking liberal.
You people can't go one fucking post without making yourselves look retarded.
>>77047612
RIGHT ON!
I'M A SHILLARY NOW!
FUCK YEAH!!!!!
>>77056103
If the Fathers were alive they would probably recommend that you be publicly tarred and feathered you libturd piece of shit!
>>77054273
The kind of fucked up interest rates liberals fall for.
>>77047612
Pay off the principle instead of just the interest you stupid debt slave.
>>77047612
>>Implying the founding fathers were unaware of the pepperbox pistol and the puckle gun during a time of intense warfare
OP is a delusional faggot
>>77047612
what is a puckle gun? oh right a fucking full auto flintlock gun from the 1700s. hmmm its almost like your a faggot
>>77050024
btfo
>>77050548
Okay. Have fun putting together a nuclear weapon then you faggot. Glad that's out of the way.
>>77047612
Ok, you want free speech?
Fine, as our laws state, you're the only free speech is allowed on parchment written with quill.
What? What's wrong? Parchment and quill is a form of free speech. What's the problem?
When that law was created, only parchment existment.
Therefore, that's the form of free speech the law was referring to.
FUCK OFF YOU FAGGOT. IT'S NOT A LAW, IT'S AN AMENDMENT ON THE CONSTITUTION OF RIGHTS. "MUSKETS" IS NOT A WORD YOU SEE IN THE SECOND AMENDMENT. THE WRITERS LEFT IT VAGUE ENOUGH SO THAT IT WOULD STILL APPLY.
do you think if the government took our guns away they could convince our military to attack citizens?
>>77049993
>Risk vs. Reward
>critical thinking
>>77057153
>fullauto
>semiauto
>ship auto
all legal and literally of no consequence.
>>77050548
Arms are what the modern infantry soldier has
Nukes are weapons of mass destruction, not arms. This tired argument if fucking retarded
>>77047612
Ok, you want to post anti-modern-gun posts here?
Write them on your laptop with a quill pen.
The 1st Amendment was written for quill pens not the internet.
>fucktard
>>77054415
Don't you have a bull to prep?
>>77047910
High quality bait m8
>>77047612
Ok, you want free speech?
Fine, as our laws state, you can have a paper and quill.
What? What's wrong? A paper and quill is a form of media. What's the problem?
When that law was created, pens and quills only existed.
Therefore, that's the free speech the law was referring to.
Shut up faggot :)
>the right to bear muskets
Does that apply to speech as well? Can we censor free speech of all words post-Bill of Rights?
But wait a minute, why do you need an AK47 no one has given a reason. You'd still have a gun. Your reasons are annoying
>>77047612
You ok with citizens having cannons? They were around back then and what's a cannon but a huge gun. Go fuck yourself op.
>>77058052
Since when has need had anything to do with it?
I don't need to justify shit
>>77047612
Duck that noise. I already got my AK on a .308 platform and a few pistols. Can't even take my guns and I got my conceal and carry. Feels good for me.
>>77058142
People can own canons though, and do
Guy in my town has several private tanks that he drives around on the weekends
>>77047612
this bullshit again and again
seriously, it is literally impossible to remove guns from existence
you can buy pieces and parts for guns and put them together yourself legally and you dont even have to register that shit unless you sell it
there are people that do that.
you could bitch and cry and annoy everyone about guns for eternity but they arent going anywhere even if you cry as hard as you can
fuckin deal with it.
>>77058284
Yeah you do. You do need to justify an AK47. Just have a hunting rifle
>>77058284
...there is no reason...is there.
>>77058557
You can, and people do, hunt with AKs just fine. And no, I don't need to justify what I spend my money on
I also own "hunting rifles", which you probably think are bolt action rifle with a scope on them
>>77056103
Thanks for telling everyone. We were all waiting on what your assessment of what the forefathers opinions would have been.
>>77058722
Why have more than one? Can you defend your family with three guns at the same time?
You can't defend your house with a hunting rifle? Are you a pussy with that gun?
>>77047612
Weak, autistic shitpost which didn't even put forth enough effort to squeeze out a beer fart.
1/10
The second amendement was made for Americans to own the same weapons as their government.
>>77047873
Reminder Lewis and Clark used it during their expedition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CquUBWHU2_s
>>77047612
https://youtu.be/7pzXivAJnwA
>>77047612
>dumb bitch takes 23 years to pay off $27000 loan and is bitching about it
>>77058910
>Why have more than one?
Because they're cool and I like to collect things that interest me. They are also valuable, and tend to appreciate in value over time and are easy to liquidate into cash if need be.
>Can you defend your family with three guns at the same time?
No, but my family can use them themselves
>You can't defend your house with a hunting rifle?
Not easily for close or intermediate ranges. Plus, the rate of fire is slower than semi auto
>>77054415
It says "Arms"
Most of the cannons used by the revolutionaries were privately owned
Get fucked
>>77058557
No we don't. We don't have to justify an AK to you any more than you need to justify your faggotry to us.
>>77047612
The term "gun" actually refers to naval artillery.
Where's my 16 inch bombard motherfucker?
>>77058557
Bruv, I bought my k because if someone is coming in my house they are probably packing the same heat. I live in Chiraq, I've been shot three times, I live in the hood because of cheap housing. I want to be able to defend myself with the same weapons that are being killed with. Plus, I just like having guns and I don't need to justify myself, call it a hobby if you find you need to label it.
>>77047612
>On OP's pictures
Yeah, she is lying. Either she failed to make the first few years of payments and got stacked with fines, or she's to dumb to get a lawyer.
Seriously, it's a 10 year loan people plus a shit load of leniancy if you ask for it.
>>77059243
Right. But what if we all had hunting rifles? I think it's ok to devolve the guns we have for a safer country.
>>77058684
My reason is to spite you. Come and take it.
>this bait thread will get 300 replies
senpai...
>>77059618
>I think it's ok to devolve the guns we have for a safer country.
Modern guns are the pinnacle of engineering and design. You can't stop progress, so good luck with that pipe dream
>>77059625
Ex fucking zactly. You fucking faggots. Get older
>>77059742
That's the solution brah. Ugh, they can engineer more important things you know?
>>77059788
Come and take it, fag.
>>77059860
Who says it's mutually exclusive?
>>77047612
Get off the internet. The first amendment only applies to printing presses.
>>77048245
>How many Muslims have to attack us before you support commonsense Immigration control?
>>77060117
Irrelevant
>>77060506
Our savior is trying
>>77047612
I would love having a fucking musket. The only defence we have here is fist full of fury and mostly it's not full of fury, just full of cum.
Ok, you want to not be searched?
Fine, as our laws state, you can not be seatched in your house.
What? What's wrong?
When the law was created, the car and the phone didn't exist.
Therefore, that's the search the law was referring to.
>thinking the founders didn't expect technological advances in firearms
>>77060787
Kek.
>>77056103
Read literally anything any of them wrote about government and liberty and then come back here and apologize for being wrong.
>>77061322
That'l get it started.
>>77047612
Give up computer and phone. Clearly they were talking about talking about quill, parchment, and speaking. No Internet is mentioned in the amendment.
