Why are you so unsympathetic to undocumented people? All of you spoiled teenagers don't seem to have the ability to have any empathy or compassion for people that have really hard lives and have had to fight for even their basic freedom and economic well-being.
You''re shilling. Otherwise, I'd be obvious.
If you think anyone can just come here and get that they want at the taxpayer's expense, that's you and me, Then you're whats wrong with this country. Debate me.
>>76892194
There is a difference between being empathetic and gullible. Letting people shit all over our country is quite gullible. Plus I thought the Left used to represent the working class, how does competing with illegals who will work for near slave wages help the American Worker? It doesn't, the left just wants new voters, no different than when LBJ said he'll have them niggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years.
>undocumented people
you mean ILLEGALS RIGHT?
people who are actively committing a crime by living in the US?
why do they gt a free pass? why shouldnt the rules apply to them? why do they push the blame onto society when they could have stayed together - on their own side?
>>76892194
>being.
Thats the exact same horse shit Merkel came out with and now Europe is being overrun by migrants. Altruism does not mean having to cut your own throat
>undocumented
That's why
>>76892194
The word you're looking for is illegals
>>76892194
>Undocumented?
What is this shit.
Did you mean illegally immigrated Persons?
They can make a better life in their own country. If a company is failing does their successful competitor have an obligation to hire all the people from the failing company whether or not they need them? This just drags down the successful company.
>>76892194
Have you ever gone to see a movie in the theater? That probably cost ten to fifteen dollars. With that money you could have fed a child in Africa for a month. What kind of heartless bastard are you that you'd prefer to watch a movie, over saving a child's life?
The truth is, humans are tribal animals. We like our people. Especially the one to two hundred we know and interact with in our daily life, and by extension, people like them.
Why am I unsympathetic? It's because my tribe doesn't include the undocumented parasites that are here taking resources away from my group. They've got to go. If they don't want to be separated from their parents, move back with them. It's hard, but they'll survive. And if they don't, I'll just go watch a movie.
>Yanks should destroy their country because shitskins can't get their shit together.
>>76892194
Because they broke the law.
If someone steals because they're too poor to afford food for themselves, does the law go "aww, that's okay buddy, you go on with that stolen goods there." Fuck no. They lock the fucker up, because justice is blind. It doesn't give a fuck if you're in an extenuating circumstance.
You break the law, you pay the price. End of story.
>>76892194
because they dont play by the same rules
t. hispanic american
What kind of message do you send to the legal immigrants who bust their ass to earn citizenship when they could have just snuck in and cried "racism"?
daily reminder that
ONE
HUNDRED
PERCENT
of illegal immigrants are criminals
Why should people be allowed to illegally move to America? Why don't we just open borders of all countries?
(esp Israel)
>>76892194
John B is that you?
>>76895118
If they can then you can too. Rather than do anything about the source of the problem, you conservashits would rather complain about the peripheral damage. Life here, even as it's "worse for you" because of illegals, is still better than what they dealt with where they come from. Get over yourself. You're not any more important than any other human in the world.
What if america forced these undocumented illegals to A: Forsake their original "homeland" (Mexicans arent mexicans anymore, theyre AMERICANS) B: Force them to do some form of military service for a period of time that is reasonable C: Educate them to a proper standard that is not compromised upon, people who fail to pick up keep trying until they give up or die.
>>76892194
>retarded redneck sister fuckers too stupid to realize its companies outsourcing that is destroying the economy
>literal corporate welfare and shit like the war economy and prison economy funneling public taxpayer dollars into private corporate gains
>b-b-but muh Trump will build a wall and fix America
>b-b-but muh Trump will ban Muslims and stand with the jews in Israel
Please enlighten yourselves with shotgun mouthwash.
>>76897516
Why not get rid of all that, and illegals as well?
>>76897516
>butthurt berniebro
>too retarded to realize that there would be no incentive to hire them if they weren't here
Calmly and coherently, please tell me what went wrong in Venezuela, or socialism in general.
and don't forget to show your work, you Olympically stupid, meme candidate backing manchild.
Show your work without assuming all Trump supporters are Rednecks
>>76892194
>undocumented
illegal
>have any empathy or compassion for people that have really hard lives
All these murderers and rapists and drug peddlers probably had "really hard lives" too. Doesn't make them less of criminals, just like illegal aliens. Western civilization is built on supremacy of law, dura lex, sed lex. You killed someone, you have to go in jail. You illegally crawled into US, you have to go back.
>>76892194
Enabling this means serving the cartels and the rapists. It makes life easier for people who do not deserve to live -- not for the people you are trying to help.
>>76892194
Because I am a legal immigrant, and I don't understand why it should be any easier for them.
>we must keep families together
I agree, deport anchor babies as well
>>76892194
>Demanding legal aid for illegal people
>Implying that makes sense
Well since we are negotiating legality for illegal things, Bernie needs to ship me 4 kilos of coke, 8lbs of weed, 10 sheets of lsd, and 2.4 million dollars for my oppression of not having above listed items. Also a bike. I want a bike.
>>76898347
>"free" college being the same as taxpayer funded college
You're already looking pretty stupid with that image.
>no incentive to hire illegals for jobs that aren't even in the country anymore
>factories are already in Mexico and all over the world exploiting cheap labor
Yeah. Lets go ahead and spend a shitton of public money deporting workers instead of sending more people to get a higher education to develop new industries and create modern jobs. Instead, lets keep it early 20th century and emphasize manual low skill jobs that are already being automated in the INFORMATION ERA. Lets ignore this rapid boom of technology the world is seeing in all sectors of science and not invest in our logical infrastructure because of illegal brown people that are being replace by machines anyways. We already have net-zero immigration because corporations are fucking America so hard that even the immigrants are going back home.
And who said anything about socialism? Are you assuming socialism because Bernie Sanders is a Democratic Socialist? Do you even know the different variations of modern Democracy? Who am I kidding, you're supporting the real meme candidate who tweets shitty frog memes.
Why do liberals call the police on undocumented residents who enter their home?
what's this shit about keeping families together?
just deport the entire family and they can be together somewhere else
>I need more votes, where's that free shit at
>>76892194
Because it's cheaper for them to build up their own country than it is for them to come here and claim to be Syrian.
US$6000 to cross the Mediterranean illegally. That will buy you a farm, some equipment and books containing the latest agricultural methods of farming. In Africa. Profits feed the nation and make you a bloody rich man.
But wait, that'd be white so let's be parasites instead.
>>76900890
This. Norway made this argument before collapsing, they should have stuck to it because it's self-explanatory, solves the problem without any externalities and the numbers don't lie.
>>76898607
The Americans have a Constitution that has a 14'th amendment that prevents the deportation of people who are born in the USA because they are a citizen as per the citizenship clause.
Trying too hard while also being ignorant is such an unfortunate combination of traits. You're probably a walking cringe factory, you should buy or do something nice for everybody you know.
>>76892194
>we provide a path to citizenship
I keep hearing this parroted, but there already is a path to citizenship, it's called legal immigration where you apply for fucking citizenship.
>>76892194
>we must keep families together
So deport all of the illegals, not just their parents?
>>76901140
Absolutely. If they're enriching our country so much, think how much they'll enrich their own country!
>>76901140
It would be the fair thing to do.
>>76901017
It would be voluntary. They can either live in the US on their own or go back to Mexico or wherever with their families.
>>76896630
This globalist thinking is destroying all the countries that fucking matter
>>76892194
Why the fuck should legal immigrants have to endure years without their children?
You aren't even asking the right question op. Because it is one you cannot answer. Why should criminals entering the country illegally be given preference over legal immigrants who sacrifice years of their lives to become citizens in a lawful manner?
>>76892194
>brothers and sisters
commie detected
>>76892194
leave, nation-wrecking kike
and take la raza with you
>>76901370
>all the countries that matter
Any country with internet matters. Globalism is happening whether you like it or not. The world is being further connected exponentially - as in: it isn't going to stop and it's only going to happen more and more. Get used to it and try not to be such a self centered prick
>>76892194
>people who commit crimes to get into the country should immediately leapfrog the millions of people forced to wait 3-10 YEARS to get into the country legally
Why do all liberals believe this? It's like they don't believe the world should have rules at all.
why don't you have empathy for the mexicans trying to immigrate legally and risking getting their faces cut off every day they stay in mexico waiting for their papers?
>>76901686
Ah but you see, the intelligent people who do it legally are the sort of people who can't be pushed into becoming a permanent voter for the Democrats, which is what happened with the black community and is happening with the illegals.
>>76892194
legal immigrant from europe here
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>76901990
Racism is a personality disorder, and denotes a lack of emotional intelligence. Cognitive neuroscience goes over most of /pol/s head, but basically the core of your brain is the limbic system - which is a group of brain structures including the amygdala, hippocampus, and hypothalamus that are involved in processing and regulating emotions. The fact that they lack empathy is a clear sign of lower brain activity in this region of the brain. Basically science says they're just stupid.
If he likes taxing people so much, why does he want so many people in this country not paying taxes?
>>76902449
Not sure which "he" you're referring to, but the answer is because they'll vote for his party to keep him and his cohorts in power.
>>76901598
This perverse sense of "empathy" is destroying everything beautiful and good in the world, and will enslave us. Tribalism is a law of nature, when the world is stripped from identity and atomized in a global homogenous culture, we're all defenseless and divided from eachother, we become soulless consumerists sacks of flesh. Humans need a common other to bring us together, it's no cultures responsibility to look after another, we all need to focus on our own culture's first.
>We must keep families together
Don't worry, the children are leaving too.
>>76892194
so it's okay if i just cross the border and move to your country?
can you let me stay in your house thanks
>>76892194
Because fuck them.
>>76902998
>tribalism is a law of nature
It's a fucking meme you shitlord. It's a collective idea and nothing more. MANKIND is the force of nature.
If you want to focus on your own culture, then figure out how and why it's not your friend. Ever hear the term "cultural programming"? Learn to think for yourself instead of like a sheep in a herd.
>humans need a common other to bring us together
Again, that's just an idea. It's not a law of nature, and you don't have to act like it is. Take some responsibility for your own cognitive brain activity
>>76903859
Equality is a meme, there are objective differences among types of people.
>>76904026
That's true, but there is such a thing as "compromise". It requires "higher" cognitive functions of the brain though, so most people don't go there and, instead, settle on just being judgemental.
Look up the limbic system, and the prefrontal cortex of the brain to get a better idea of what I'm talking about, if you don't understand. Not saying you do or don't, just saying.
>>76892194
We shouldn't separate families. The kids should go back with their parents.
>>76892194
Why doesn't he drop out? What's the point of this kike scheme?
>>76904440
He initiated a very very large political movement, and it's not gonna stop just because he didn't get nominated. Maybe if you tried paying attention with an open mind, instead of paying attention for the sake of reinforcing your own ignorant bias... nah this is /pol/
>>76892194
A country and it's citizens have a right to control who enters it's borders they are breaking the law they are welcome to try through legal channels.
10 heartbreaking images that will make you say 'fuck having borders and laws n shit'
>>76904559
lol youre 21 or under arent you
>>76904725
25
I'll be 21 and under
>for you :3
>>76902315
>The vast majority of humans for the vast majority of history have preferred their own group and have been cautious around those different from themselves
>This is observed in other animals as well
>But my Jewish professor told me racism is a mental disorder, so it must be true.
>>76904865
It is a mental disorder you fucking degenerate. Being wary or skeptical is one thing. Being racist is another.
>>76904956
Can you define precisely what you mean when you say racist?
>>76904956
It is an objective fact that races are not equal. Blacks tend to be less intelligent and have poorer impulse control than whites. This can be seen both in the behaviour of blacks compared to whites in nations in which they live together, but also in the state of Africa before, during and after contact with other groups.
But that's not even what you're talking about. You think anyone is racist if they don't want to live next to a black man even when considering him an equal.
>>76904559
White male redditors aren't a "very large political movement"
>>76905168
>blacks tend to be less intelligent
That's ignorant though. You're taking a specific quality of an individual and applying it to a collective of lookalikes. If blacks are so much less intelligent, then why is the smartest kid alive black? Why is there a black president? Why Is there a revolutionary black scientist who is an astro physicist. Well I guess you could call him an afro-physicist.
>. This can be seen both in the behaviour of blacks compared to whites in nations in which they live together, but also in the state of Africa before, during and after contact with other groups.
That's ignorant confirmation bias, and it's not even scientifically based. If you're going to compare people against people, why not try comparing lower class to upper class? Or academics vs jocks. Lumping a majority of people together and assuming a one-shoe-fits-all-feet scenario is dumb.
>You think anyone is racist if they don't want to live next to a black man even when considering him an equal.
No, I just think that's paranoid. Nice try though
>>76905659
>If blacks are so much less intelligent, then why is the smartest kid alive black? Why is there a black president? Why Is there a revolutionary black scientist who is an astro physicist. Well I guess you could call him an afro-physicist.
Obama isn't particularly intelligent. And I never said that blacks aren't capable of genius, merely that they are on average less intelligent and possess poorer impulse control.
>That's ignorant confirmation bias, and it's not even scientifically based. If you're going to compare people against people, why not try comparing lower class to upper class? Or academics vs jocks. Lumping a majority of people together and assuming a one-shoe-fits-all-feet scenario is dumb.
You are attempting to argue that blacks commit more crimes because of poverty. Poor whites on average commit far fewer crimes.
And then again, there is the difference between Europe and Africa as civilizations.
>>76905811
Well it's not just about being poor, it's also about parental upbringing. I wont deny that a lot of black people grow up in shit-tier lifestyles, passed down through generations of shit-tier lifestyles. But such a phenomenon is not black-only. Niggers come in many different colors, shapes and sizes, some white, some black, some mixed.
Some people are just born into unfortunate circumstances, and their growth / development is negatively influenced, thus we have bad apples.
>>76892194
>Undocumented
Dropped
>This is what (((liberals))) actually believe.
>>76904956
Source that it is?
>>76892194
perhaps they're aware of the dangers of the growing hispanic voter bloc who consistently vote against their interests
I have found something I agree with Bernie Sanders on. We must keep families together so I am perfectly OK with sending them all back as a family.
>>76892194
Fuck illegal immigrants.....
some of them are rapists and murderers
>>76906228
Well, not all racism is a mental illness. Most of it is just a manifested insecurity, which isn't technically mental illness but it's a form of personality disorder. Extreme racism, however, is absolutely a form mental illness.
>>76906418
I asked for a source and I got none.
>>76906051
Poor white communities with bad parents are trailer parks.
Poor black communities are lawless hellholes that even the police dare not tread.
>>76906488
Well in fairness, methed out white people are easier to deal with than gang bangers. And if you're saying police don't even wanna go there, imagine how the people living there feel
>>76906051
>being rational on /pol/
Let's just leave together.
>>76906641
methed*
not method
>>76906641
They don't have a problem with it. Their homes are lawless hellholes full of gangbangers because they are the gangbangers.
This is their natural habitat. See Africa for an example.
>>76892194
They're called illegal aliens.
They broke the law.
They should be jailed until they can be sent home.
>>76906659
I'm kinda wondering why I'm still here too. Calling out people for thinking like pieces of shit is just too easy I guess. It's like eating potato chips. 1 is never enough because they're too crunchy and convenient.
And also some surprisingly decent discussion happens, so there's that
What about me? All I want is to move to america so I can fuck around with some cool guns and hunt bears.
But cunt, i can't just go for a morning stroll and get into america. Kick those fucking illegals out and maybe I can move to the USA a little easier.
>>76901017
oh really? what does the 14th amendment say?
>>76906713
Well you're crazy if you think EVERYONE who lives in that crap actually WANTS to. It's harder than you think to leave a place that only wants to perpetuate bad habits. Leaving is a good thing, and they aren't about that life. Some people are just stuck in unfortunate circumstances, where given the opportunity - they would get the fuck out in a heartbeat.
>>76899943
>We already have net-zero immigration because corporations are fucking America so hard that even the immigrants are going back home.
This is false you fucking moron. The only data that showed that this was the case was taken following the recession and during the recovery. We've had a net increase of almost 1 million illegal Mexicans per year for the past two years, which has more than made up for the net loss of 140,000 that occurred from 2009-2014.
You acknowledge that low skilled manual labor jobs are disappearing, yet you advocate for continuing to allow the presence of millions of individuals (who are here illegally) who are only capable of performing these exact jobs and you are apparently ambivalent about enforcing the laws that would prevent even more of them from coming over the border. Fuck you.
>>76906942
If they wanted to improve their lives and get out of there they would stop getting pregnant at age 15, 16 and 17 from three different fathers all of which are no-shows and instead act responsibly.
They made a choice to abandon their homelands and break another country's laws by entering and working there.
>>76902315
that's some ok bait, well done, have a reply
3/10(although I am being generous)
>>76901990
wait, are you saying America is better than Mexico? Is that because Americans are better than Mexicans?
>>76892194
Simple. Because the American constitution is built and made for Americans, of the United States of America. A government has no imperative to fight for the rights of anyone else but it's own citizens first. Get fucked, cuck.
>>76892194
i know plenty of homeless people who would love to live 'undocumented' in your house
please provide you heartless monster
>>76904298
why do you deny White children the right to their own lands, whilst simultaneously promoting that right for non-White children?
isn't that bigoted and racist?
>>76907042
Easy for you to say since you're never been anywhere close to being part of such a life. I don't disagree with you though. If there is anything to take away from such a lifestyle, it's that "I don't give a fuck" is a retarded and degenerate mindset. I wonder when the vast amount of shitheads on /pol/ will understand this
>>76906791
Here's the thing. Your average person on the street will harbor some prejudice, so a place like /pol/ with anonymity is expected to be in the cesspool of the internet.
Just remember that most people aren't actually racist pieces of shit, that's only a few in comparison. Many more are simply ignorant or close minded to the circumstances outside of their own bubble which, as bad as it is, could still be a lot worse. They're not the type of people who would beat the shit out of a homeless guy for being brown. That's how I rationalize /pol/ and how I maintain my ability to scroll through the nationalist/racist bullshit and get to the conversations that have some semblance of intelligence in this shithole.
>>76905168
>>76892194
suck my cock OP
beaners gtfo
>>76907199
what the FUCK are you talking about. Don't ever reply to me or my dindus son ever again
>>76905659
>>76907266
That's a good fucking call. I'll try to keep that in mind
>>76906791
>thinking like pieces of shit
HURRR YOU ARE ALL BAD BECAUSE I SAY SOOO!!!
my liebereal profs told me I am right and you are wrong and I am teh smart and you are teh dum!!
WHY WON'T YO(U JUST DO AS I SAY?? WAAAAAAAAA
>>76907214
Now tell me why, even if we assume that all of these negative elements to minorities is a result of accidents and evil whitey, why should we pander to and allow more and more of these people in? They create unnecessary risks while offering nothing we need and cannot do ourselves.
>>76892194
>undocumented
they're not "undocumented". they have documents, from their native country
they are in our country illegally
>>76906745
WHAT GAME
Because legal citizens pay their taxes.
>>76907334
I'm calling you a racist, and a bigot, for denying White children the right to their own homeland whilst promoting that right for all the shitskins
faggot
I don't get it. Why don't illegals just apply for citizenship? Why are they staying illegal?
>>76892194
It seems that a lot of Mexican that go to America illegally actually actively hate the US while reaping all the benefits of living there. These are the types of people to leave Mexico because it sucks, then go to the US and shit out a baby to get free housing, food and practically whatever they want, then they go ahead and fly a Mexican flag on their house and think it's hilarious to attack and hate the country that gave them everything they have.
Mexico is a shithole and everyone knows it.
>>76905659
>smartest kid alive
Nah, i'm pretty sure that kid is doing some seriously nefarious shit with his brain because most smart kids these days are already planning for a good happening.
Kid likely has his hands on a 1980s Macintosh and is learning to properly fuck computers in his early teens. The kid is probably capable of firing a rifle. The kid likely has hunted/fished or means to learn soon.
You think some paraded around nigger child is the legit SMARTEST KID ALIVE - NBC/BBC/CNC/NYN/ect ect??
I guess that'd make you one of the dumbest motherfuckers alive.
>>76907471
>allow them in
It's not about that, though. It's about GOING in to the source of the shittyness and doing something about it there, rather than ignoring it and letting the problem come to us so we have something to bitch about. As to how to do that, I don't know. I don't have all the answers, i just have good ideas and judgement.
>>76907461
That's cute. Same thing applies to you though
>>76904298
Get a load of this tard
Of course I realize illegals have it harder. I just value in group loyalty more than global happiness.
>>76907687
The source of the shittiness is shitty people. Africa is a shithole because blacks are shit. Mexico is a shithole full of cartels that chop heads off because they are descended from batshit insane natives moreso than they are Europeans.
You prevent the problem from "coming to us" by building the damn wall.
>>76907658
Nah I'm pretty sure he's going to oxford at age 6. Stay salty
>>76892194
>Why are you so unsympathetic to criminals?
>>76907687
>That's cute. Same thing applies to you though
I don't have any liebereal profs to indoctrinate me into thinking that non-White children deserve TWO homelands, whilst White ones don't have the right to even 1, and should be eradicated through invasion and forced mixing
nice try though fagtron
>>76907787
Building a wall just makes it someone elses problem though. Why don't you get that? Why don't you care? It's such an irresponsible approach to the problem. We're not talking about illegals here, we're talking about niggers
>>76905659
It's simple correlation. And you are making a false dichotomy with class. obviously upper class blacks are smarter than lower class blacks, but the mean is shifted compared to upper and lower class whites. Group psychology is a very real thing.
>>76895276
this nigga knows what's up
>>76907601
They stay illegal and they're immune to a LOT of legal consequences that are worse to legals/citizens
>>76892194
Cry me a fucking river. Immigrants are not like our ancestors who were here to flourish and to intergrate into society and become "American". Immigrants today want to come into a country to expolit it. Start living in the real world you stupid faggot.
>>76907687
Why is it our job to fix another country's problem. The people fleeing their country could instead stay and attempt to fix it themselves. Instead they come here illegally, send money back home which is then used to fund the problems they're running away from.
>>76896630
>all athletes should be intentionally crippled upon entering their sport because otherwise it's unfair to the disabled 'athletes'.
That is what you're arguing.
>>76907214
I grew up in a ghetto neighborhood as a white man. I went through the entire Newark school system, I got beat up three times in school because of my skin color by a bunch of blacks. Half my school either wound up dropping out or in prison.
They can go to school, like me, and go down a road to better themselves. The teachers can and want to help them, but nope, they don't want to listen.
I could've been just like them, acting like a fucking monkey and going to prison, but I chose to better my life.
I got a scholarship to Rutgers and now I'm a head marketer in my company that I work for. Those kids did nothing to help themselves and deserve no sympathy at all.
>>76905659
> If blacks are so much less intelligent, then why is the smartest kid alive black? Why is there a black president? Why Is there a revolutionary black scientist who is an astro physicist. Well I guess you could call him an afro-physicist.
Pic related
Spics (inhabitants of Central America and South America) have only been around a few hundred years, right? There weren't any humans anywhere on Earth that were spics before. Spaniards bred with the natives and created a new fucking race. I can't think of anything else like that happening in recent history anywhere else in the world.
Am I wrong on either point? The vast majority of Central and South Americans are completely unlike any of their European progenitors, and they certainly aren't the same native people who were there pre-colonialism.
Also, if these people are so great and we should welcome them, why are their countries so fucking awful? Is that also the white man's fault?
Someone please help. I must be wrong about all of this because no one openly talks about these things.
>>76907902
>very real
wew
what a dunce
and a racist bigot
>>76892194
>1 post by this ID
All these bait threads, they only strengthen my resolve.
>>76907882
The thread is about illegals. It is their problem.
When it comes to criminal blacks, the solution is basically what is being done now. Containment. That's all you can do.
>>76892194
STOP BREAKING THE LAW ASSHOOOOOLES
>>76901017
The 14th Amendment was SPECIFICALLY for slaves who where born outside of the US and their children.
Were those illegal Immigrants slaves ?
>>76908013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPOvePioFF0
always darkest before the don
>>76907266
What's wrong with being nationalistic?
/pol/ is multi-ethnic and nationalistic (we don't want people coming in and spewing naive opinions without actually reading the threads and looking at the information first, effectively the same as a refugee respecting the culture of the country that has let him in.)
Everyone is racist, literally children will pick someone that looks like them as more trustful than other races, yes even your precious black children are racist.
Slavery was ended (in western countries, it's okay if Muslim and Africans have slaves because muh evil white man) by white people, race relations were at an all time high before Obama.
/pol/ is multi-ethnic but not multicultural, there's a lot of different people on here but most of us know the board culture and respect it when giving a point of view.
>>76907902
>group psychology is a very real thing
But that's my fucking point. It's not about race AT ALL, and that's why racists are fucking retarded - borderline mentally ill, if not extremely racist - in which case they ARE mentally ill.
>>76907929
see >>76907882
>" We're not talking about illegals here, we're talking about niggers"
>>76892194
>Why are you so unsympathetic to undocumented people?
Why are you so sympathetic to people breaking the fucking law?
>>76908133
It is about race. If blacks are on average less intelligent and more violent, then they are on average less intelligent and more violent. There is no reason to bother rooting out the exceptions because this isn't their land and frankly they should have been shipped back to Africa.
>>76907961
Good for you, and I agree. But don't think that everyone who lives in the same shithole is like the niggers. You're proof of that
>>76908032
>containment
>solution
That just makes the problem grow bigger because it's more concentrated though. That's not an actual long term solution, it's just a temporary convenience.
>>76908133
what's your definition of racism? believing that there are differences between races? i.e. that some are superior to others in certain areas?
>>76908265
The only long term solution is genocide or displacement. That isn't happening.
>>76907266
>harbor some prejudice
Gee......I wonder why people wouldn't be more excited about foreign law breaker's children taking things away from their children
there isn't unlimted money here, ya asswipe....we are $19 TRILLION in the hole
>>76908222
>blacks
Individuals who happen to be black*
There i fixed that for you
>this isn't their land
>they should be shipped back to africa
>"back to"
You're a dumb, ignorant piece of shit. You're just like a nigger, only you have less balls. Racist cuck
>>76892194
they will all be deported together, no worries there. A path to the border will be provided
>>76908463
Yes, blacks come from Africa. That is their homeland. America's only use for blacks is as slaves, they aren't any good as citizens.
>>76908278
Here is an example of what I consider racism >>76908222
>>76908368
There is no "only one" or two solutions. There are many ways to solve the problem we're talking about, and as is evident with this post here >>76907961
The best long term solution is the path of education. Period.
>>76908600
Blacks don't want education. They want gibsmedats and gang violence. That's why they voted for Clinton, not Sanders, who promised them free college.
>>76896039
I'm not sure about 5. My great grandparents came to the US, integrated, and considered themselves Americans. They voted, held jobs, fought in the army, etc. The rest looks ok prima facia.
>>76908532
Really? because I thought americans who were born in america are, you know, AMERICAN. As in "that's where they come from". Your argument is invalid because white people came from europe.
>>76908653
>blacks
see there's that ignorant context again. You're generalizing, and I get why, but it's not as simple as being black and white. Trying to paint the scene as if it is, is dumb
>>76895276
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>>76908600
I see, so there are no differences between the races, in your mind? apart from skin colour ofcourse, we can't avoid that one, or bone structure? or bone density? bone chemical composition? ratio of fast to slow twitch muscle fibres? length of gestation?
Surely the Oxford Journal of Epidemiology wouldn't publish false information? especially not by the renowned Dr Roshni R Patel, of a study of 122,000 preganancies?
http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/33/1/107.full
so, either reality is racist, or the journal is wrong, which is it?
>>76908683
America was a British colony built for whites.
>>76892194
(You)
>>76908906
You just made a big stretch of assumption. No i don't think there isn't not a difference between races. But you gotta at least make some effort to identify the individuals on the level of them being individuals. To generalize is to ignore, and ignorance is not the best human quality.
>>76892194
Life isn't about taking care of every person you see at your own expense.
Struggle is necessary for growth.
Running away promotes immorality.
The real best way to help is to teach and let them fix things themselves. Any other way is temporary.
If you couldn't survive after being taught then you weren't worthy.
>>76909009
True enough. And where is Brittan located?
>>76909192
Europe. Before you argue that this means Europe is the only place whites can live, Europeans conquered North America and made it their home. The United States and Canada were founded as white nations of European descent and culture. They have a right to it in ways other races do not.
>>76908368
I'm a Trump support 100%, but you're just an awful person. The solution is jobs and economic opportunity. The influx of millions of low skilled immigrants, both legal and illegal, has absolutely devastated the black working class. Up until the 1960s, black employment was comparable to white employment. Once the current immigration system that we have in place (championed by the progressive Democrats) took effect however, that went completely out the window. Starting in the 70s black employment began to decline drastically because these new immigrants, uneducated and unskilled, began doing the jobs that blacks had historically done and they did them for far cheaper than blacks were willing to. Unfortunately, the same progressives that have governed the inner cities for decades and have failed to actually do anything about crime and poverty have drilled into blacks that all of their economic hardships are due to racist whitey republicans and that only by voting democrat will they find economic security.
>>76909124
ok, so you agree that there ARE racial differences, now we need to ask if any of those differences result in superior/inferior performance in different areas
do Africans dominate the sprinting events?
do Europeans dominate the swimming contests?
would it be fair to say that Africans are superior sprinters, whilst Europeans are better swimmers?
am I being racist by asking these questions? are you racist if you agree that Africans are superior sprinters?
>>76909278
>before you argue that europe is the only place whites can live
It never crossed my mind at all. You think like a fucking racist. I'm willing to bet you've never heard the words spoken to you "The world would be a better place with more people like you"
>>76909288
American blacks have always been poor, and they've always been violent. The difference is that during segregation is was mostly their problem and theirs alone.
Blacks are unemployed not because of illegal immigrants but because of gibsmedats.
>>76909444
>It never crossed my mind at all.
You lie. It is the only reason for which you could conceivably ask the location of Britain.
>>76892194
>1 post by this ID
>>76908600
>>76908653
I would have to somewhat agree with the leaf.
Generally, they don't want it from my personal experience. Keyword generally. Some do, a lot don't. They get into the gangbaning life and it goes downhill. They don't go to school, they're on the street corners either selling drugs or looking for trouble.
It stems from their lack of a father. That is where it needs to change. Their mothers do nothing for them and they end following the path that their biological fathers follow, prison or being a welfare rat for the rest of time.
They don't have a father to tell them to not go into gangs or other forms of crime, they just follow whatever the crowd is doing, and that's crime.
My daddy is a murder.
I love my daddy.
Don't send my daddy to jail for murder!
(All crimes must go unpunished if your children love you.)
>>76909548
so what?! I'm having fucking fun!
>>76909304
Yes there are, but you said so yourself that "group psychology is a very real thing". Are you aware of the concept of neuroplasticity? Ever hear the saying "monkey see, monkey do"? Apply these three concepts before you try to pin it down to general racial differences. Human beings are individuals and are in fact unique as fuck. Life is not simple, it is astronomically complicated.
>>76909610
Their fatherlessness is a result of their being garbage people, not the other way around. It is a loop.
It doesn't take a brilliant education and economic opportunities to recognize that having children at age 15 with a scumbag who won't help raise the child is a bad idea. It doesn't take those things to know that doing the same thing with 4 fathers is a bad idea.
>>76892194
>I've talked to too many young people who are very scared about seeing their parents deported. We must keep families together
They can go back with their beaner parents, who gives a fuck
>>76892194
>Why are you so unsympathetic to undocumented people?
Stopped reading there. They're not "undocumented", they're CRIMINALS.
>>76909720
>unique as fuck
oh come on, you've been sounding reasanobly intelligence so far
>very real
things are real or not, "very real" is retarding
come on, say it with me "Africans are superior at sprinting, and that is reality, and no one who notices this obvious fact is racist for noticing it"
you can do it anon!
>>76909610
Yeah and I get it. But to generalize so heavily is really not helping the situation at all. We have more and greater skills of identification than majority vs minority. Our brains are lovely instruments, so let's not take that for granted.
A lot of it has to do with teenage pregnancies though, and at that point in a humans life - hardly ANYBODY is making greater than sheep decisions. Most teenagers just do what everyone else is doing.
>>76910065
>Our brains
yes, ours, not theirs
you admit there are racial differences in various sports, some are superior at some and others inferior, why do you think that evolution produced these differences, but stopped at the neck?
are border collies smarter than whippets? is that genetic?
>>76893402
Being sympathetic to an outgroup is a mental illness
xenophilia
And they are hostile to their own
>>76909933
Oh. You're a troll. I thought you were >>76907902
The purple ID threw me off. Fuck off you ignorant cunt
>>76892194
>Implying people who immigrate here legally don't also have hard lives
My mom immigrated to America legally just fine. Fuck them. They use our resources and turn around and shit on the country that provides for them.
>>76910065
It starts at home my friend. Families need to stay together and fathers have to be there for their kids. Where I grew up, it was all about pumping and dumping without a condom. This is how problems arise. The father leaves or is there for one night, and he's never seen again.
Some can and have made it out, but without a father, it makes a lot more difficult. In my city, fathers were nowhere to be found. The people with fathers in their lives ended up going to surrounding schools that were better like Harrison or private ones. They knew what was best for them. They didn't gangbang, none of that.
>Why are you so unsympathetic to undocumented people?
Because they broke the law and have to go back.
>>76910316
"Ours" as in h-u-m-a-n. Race is a social construct you tard. That means racial differences among humans are not ENTIRELY genetic, but are in fact just largely social; psychological.
For example, a lot of white people are white supremacists, but not all white people are that arrogant. "White supremacy" is a "racial trait", yet it is entirely psychological and not genetic at all. It's a point of view. A meme. You're a fucking twat and it's top kek
>>76910349
you can't answer the question?
you believe there are physical racial differences, but not mental ones?
yet you also believe that there are mental differences between breeds of dog?
genes determine physical AND mental characteristics in dogs and all other animals, but humans don't follow this pattern, they only have physical differences, but no mental ones
thanks for playing
>>76910548
is species a social construct?
>>76910501
I think like half of the population of parents didn't plan on pregnancy in the first place. The father-no-show thing is a symptom of that, unfortunately. A lot of "fathers" are just horny guys who wanted to bust a nut.
>>76902315
Bullllllllllllshiiiiet
Emotional intelligence is the ability to analyze your emotions and discern the detailed reason why you are feeling that way. From there, you figure out whether your emotional reaction is justified or not. Example. Oh, shit did you hear so and so just died? Aw, man that's terrible. How'd it happen? He ran a stop sign and got hit by a car.
>zero to some emotional intelligence
That's terrible! The nerve of that other driver!
>adequate to high emotional intelligence
That's terrible! It's a shame he wasn't more careful with his life.
All of you who just react off your emotions without processing WHY you are reacting that way, are guilty of having inadequate emotional intelligence, and you are the enablers as a result of that..
>>76910587
>you believe there are physical racial differences, but not mental ones?
You're acting like the two are mutually exclusive, and that's how I know you're a troll - or just retarded.
>>76910711
Human = species
race = social construct
>>76907972
no one ever responds to actual facts like this here sadly, because they can't deny obvious truth of them being proven wrong
>>76910548
>Race is a social construct you tard
Nah tho.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3200099/
>Although the etiology of this finding is unclear, it suggests the possibility that prostate cancer in black men may be more androgen sensitive than it is in white men
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1330397
>Although several relationships were observed between demographic factors and cyclosporine pharmacokinetics, the racial difference in F is of great clinical significance and may contribute to the poorer outcome observed after kidney transplantation in black patients.
http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/28/4/652.short
>These results indicate that plasma concentrations of immunoreactive ET-1 levels differ significantly between black and white individuals with high blood pressure.
etc.
There is truly nothing more precious than non-scientists calling scientific realities social constructs.
>>76892194
I have compassion for them, I just believe that they should follow the law and come in to the USA legally, like my forebears. Last I check, there are laws emplaced for a reason.
>>76905659
Holy shit. You accused him of ignorant confirmation bias when you JUST USED IGNORANT CONFIRMATION BIAS IN YOUR PREVIOUS STATEMENTS!
>Why? etc
It couldn't be due to *GASP* social politics, could it?
10/10 bait would respond again you filthy bundle of sticks
>>76910805
You're just furthering my point though. Racists ARE people who lack emotionally intelligence by *your* definition
>Emotional intelligence is the ability to analyze your emotions and discern the detailed reason why you are feeling that way.
Racists don't analyze their emotions, they just run with them and are quick to express them. It's a lack of self control, which reflects a lack of self awareness, which = ignorant. Extreme racism = extreme ignorance = extremely stupid
>>76892194
Came here illegally.
My compassion stops there. If you didn't want bad shit to happen to you, you should've stayed in your country of origin instead of fence hopping to another.
>>76911010
/thread
Go through the process legally or don't come here at all.
I will personally serve in ICE raids for free if Trump is president.
>>76910916
you are smarter than that, anon
you know what my questions were, and you know you failed to answer them
and you know what the answers to those questions are
and for some reason, you care about your reputation, even on an anonymouse mouse flaggelation sewing circle
nobody knows who you are, after this thread we all disappear
yet you still have this need to be right against all the evidence, why is that?
>>76910977
must take some major league cognitive dissonance
>>76892194
If we got rid of this anchor baby shit maybe kids wouldn't be seperated from their families.
>>76892194
No they haven't.
>>76911144
>Racists ARE people who lack emotionally intelligence by *your* definition
no, you idiot
racists are people who agree that reality shows physical and mental differences between races
of course, racist is just short for race-realist
>>76911248
If you wanna be a racist, and reinforce your own beliefs, go ahead. I choose not to be. The individual is more important to me than the collective, because without the individual there would *be no collective*
>>76896279
>Forgeting southern Brazil
>Forgeting Argentina
Fuck you.
>>76910916
you are really good at dodging his question
also >>76910548
here you say the differences are not entirely genetic... so you admit at least that a small part is...
so how can you contradict yourself here >>76910916 saying it is only a social construct ?
>>76911493
so there are no average measures of height?
no average measures of salmon length?
no objective rational reality?
or only until you reach euros, niggers and mongoloids? then they are all the same, but different?
you speak of a choice. yet you already know that the choice is between reality and pretend
and you keep choosing pretend
>>76911398
Racist is short for piece of shit. Take a look at those synonyms
>>76911560
The differences between any humans in general is equally as much genetic and physical as it is psychological. Period.
>>76911512
sorry bro, no offence intended
politicsforum.org
>>76911861
gestation length is psychological?
bone density is psychological?
age of first tooth is psychological?
please explain how psychology affects these things
>>76892194
You're not entitled to citizenship Paco.
>>76892194
>Why are you so unsympathetic to undocumented people?
because no one cares about me.
>>76911861
Look at that definition again, there is no contradiction with what he said. Go take some more English second language classes twat.
>>76892194
Why don't we let bernie explain it himself
https://youtu.be/vf-k6qOfXz0
>>76911861
>Racist is short for piece of shit. Take a look at those synonyms
I wonder (((who))) chose those synonyms and (((who))) runs that search engine.
Also whites ARE objectively superior to most non-whites and are equal with some asian cultures.
[spoiler]This is satire NSA no van[/spoiler]
>inb4 some tells me spoilers don't work
>>76911861
but science undeniably proves that some races have different characteristics that very well may improve it's survival, is science therefore racist ?
>>76906375
I've talked too many young people who are very scared about seeing their rapist parents imprisoned. We must keep families together.
>>76911861
>Take a look at those synonyms
you agree that Africans are the superior race in sprinting, so you are a racist, by your definition
unless you wish to claim Africans do not dominate sprinting
do you wish to claim that?
if so, please supply us some evidence that shows all races are equally as good at sprinting
>>76892194
because if you dont have a law preventing people from coming into your country your country will turn into a shithole and everyones wellbeing will be compromised.
if you just let everyone in your country you literally do not have a country worth living in and thats what undocumenteds are too stupid to understand. there are a billion chings in china that would love to come to america and work for 1 dollar a day instead of the 10 cents they are getting paid in ching land. we could let them all in but it would seriously hurt the living standards of everyone else already in the country.
>>76911144
EXCEPT--
everything that minorities don't like has been branded as racism, when in fact it is the act of using prejudice. Making 99% of your argument irrelevant. How so? Irrational prejudice is to not like or hate someone, something, or a group of things or people, for something they have no control over. It cannot be justified. Yes, you know exactly what I'm inferring here. Slavery. Rational prejudice is to not like or hate someone, something or a of things or people, for something they DO have control over. Things such as personal work ethic, both physically and mentally. Things such as personal punctuality. Things such as personal repeated crimes. Things such as an individuals propensity for aggressive behavior and not talking things out like civilized creatures.
Both sides of the two party system contain racists. That is no lie. The only difference is, the right side of the spectrum is more HONEST about their feelings. While the left, hides their intentions through welfare and perpetual assistance programs that habituate the people to never do better for themselves, because there is not a big enough incentive for them. Adversity breeds strength. Complacency breeds weakness.
You know in your heart that this true.
>>76912150
No because "racism" is a form of belief; a point of view in the first place. Science is a form of study, and it's not impossible to study a point of view, or study WITH a point of view.
>>76892194
>people deserve a free pass from breaking the law because they might have families
Where is the fucking line man? How deep into lunacy is too deep for a lib?
>>76912274
>Irrational prejudice is to not like or hate someone, something, or a group of things or people, for something they have no control over
do the niggers have any control over their violence?
are you aware that in 2014 the americoon niggers committed 55% of the murders in the USA whilst being only 13% of the population?
>>76912274
>complacency breeds weakness
What does that say about people who are comfortable being racists, then? They're pretty complacent minded thinkers who try to paint reality black and white.
>>76892194
op if america is so racist enforcing laws on who can enter the country why dont u go head over to a country that doesnt have immigration laws. i'm sure you could instead be enjoying a racist free life in brazil where everyone can come and go as they please.
go ahead op enjoy the freedom of a truly unracist country I will buy your ticket.
>we must provide a path to citizenship
there is one, you fucking shitstains
>>76911861
go on, try it, admit you were wrong
I've done it a few times here, it's refreshing
most of us have admitted we were wrong at some time or other
why is it so difficult for you?
do you really care what faceless anons think?
>>76892194
Because recognizing the national borders between Canadians, Mexicans and Americans is the only real thing preventing something like a North American Union from being established.
This talk about "illegal immigrants being just as "american" and "the free movement of people" are all priming to set up a union like the EU here the west.
But what you get is an enormous bureaucratic, undemocratic political machine that governs and regulates your country from afar.
The populations of these countries (like under the EU) are so deserve, so multi-cultural that consensus can never be reached. The "will of the people" is perpetually stagnated by inter religious, cultural, national dialog and conflict.
Leaving them all surfs under this conglomerate of a government that only really serves globalist corporations.
TL:DR
Fuck Mexico , the third world shit hole.
>>76912530
aww, you still think racism is bad, even though you have to live in a pretend world to maintain races are equal
you poor fellah
>>76911861
>chauvinist
>supremacist
>synonyms for racist
what?
>>76892194
>undocumented
Is this the latest meme?
Illegal sounded too bad, right?
I'm not a thief, I just procured some undocumented goods. :^)
>>76896630
>You're not any more important than any other human in the world.
You should quit your job and give it to someone more deserving. You should give up your possessions and donate them. Donate your organs, because you are not more important to anyone else so the moral burden of helping others lies squarely on your shoulders.
>>76912816
kek
I just had undocumented sex with that girl, I'm not a rpaist
>>76898500
because >muh feelings.
Seriously. I got into a half-hour debate with my wife over this debate and her opinion on the matter was basically "They should be allowed to come in and stay because they're human and we should feel for them." Love her to death but sometimes she makes me want to drive us into oncoming traffic. For these fuckgoblin bleeding hearts, it's all about emotions, rather than rational, logical thought.
>>76912328
Science looks for evidence to explain physical phenomenon. There is plentiful evidence of genetic clustering of different human populations that nicely fits in with observable racial phenotypes.To deny this is to deny science. To deny this is to deny evolution. To deny this is to deny reality.
>>76912454
Yes, they do. Their problem is their own culture which they self perpetuate the violence. Even when you tell then that they ahve been tricked into acting this way, they still continue doing it. Innocence nor ignorance doesn't continue after someone has been informed. From that point on it is stupidity. Purposeful perpetual stupidity.
I don't think you realize were arguing for the same objectives. Calm down, bong. I'm fully aware that a smaller percentage of the population committing crimes of that large proportion, justifiably reflects poorly on the whole of them.
>>76912884
she needs a spanking
>>76892194
because they are taking away from people who are legitimate migrants and refugees.
>really hard lives and have had to fight for even their basic freedom and economic well-being
YOU LITERALLY JUST DESCRIBED THE PROCESS OF LEGAL IMMIGRATION
ILLEGALS GET TOO MUCH SHIT WAY TOO EASY
DEPORT THEM IN ALL CAPS LOCK
>>76912936
I agreed with most of your comment, just objected to the part where you claimed we can't discriminate in areas where it's involuntary
I heard niggers described as being tipsy at all times, something to do with their brain chemistry
that is something htey can't control, and I feel it's perfectly reasonable to discriminate based on this, and their behaviour
>>76912929
reality is racist, so they have to live in pretendland
>>76912530
You're moving the goalposts. I'll still kick for 3 points. Is not a situation when a person who is describing a racist as you have been, painting the reality black and white? Thanks for playing. Game over.
>>76892194
Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ said to love others as we love ourselves, to treat them how we treat ourselves. This does not mean become a doormat in our misguided compassion, however. If I went to another country illegally, with no visa or documentation, and hid from the authorities, I would expect to be deported if found, and I would not blame them for enforcing their own laws. If I pleaded for leniency, I would not expect it granted; I broke their laws, they would be right and just to enforce them. Now, with illegal immigrants here, I wish them no malice. I care for them as I do myself, which means I wish to treat them how I would like to be treated, given the same circumstances. Our laws must be enforced with due prejudice and illegal immigrants deported, humanely and with no malice. It's not fair to us, nor is it fair to them to continue wading in these ambiguous waters, nor would be fair to anyone to grant universal amnesty.
>>76912767
awwwwwwww you think racism is good? Sure bud
>>76912530
so you have this conflict between maintaining your world view and accepting reality
many of us have been in your position, and stand in solidarity with you during this difficult time
>>76912965
Don't start that shit, britbong.
>>76892194
There is an entire planet to exist on. The only people beholden to illegals are illegals and none other.
Go fuck a cock.
>>76913416
it's better than allowing your children and culture to die out
do you agree that Africans are the superior race when it comes to sprinting? if not, do you have any evidence to suggest that all races are equal in this regard?
>>76913436
Caucasiods have dark hair and eyes, slanted foreheads, and google eyes.
>>76913403
Hallelejuah! Someone who appears to have some spiritual discernment! Amen, anon!
>>76913540
All races are equal in all things period. Read something. Education and raising is what separates things.
>>76892194
My sister-in-law went through the legal process. Took forever. The system could be better but that doesn't mean illegals get to stay. They can go back and try again legally.
>>76913559
it's just a social construct inspector treusso, good luck in you pink pander case yo!
nothing is real, ignore all evidence, just follow your liebreal teachers beliefs
>>76913623
so link me to the list of 100m male sprinting olympic winners then
where I will obviously find an equal number of mongoloids and caucasoids and negroids
