So let me get this straight: Mary claimed to have been impregnated by gOD and that she was still a virgin. Joseph not only believed this obvious load of shit but then raised the child?? Christfags explain yourselves. How does it feel knowing that your entire religion is based on cuckoldry??? Lmao!
>>76882115
Women were able to keep their hymens intact back then so I guess that was the proof.
>>76882263
Fuck you heathen. Get back to your mud hut
>>76882772
you sound a little crispy there bud
>>76882115
DELETE THIS
Christ is my safe space!
>>76882115
Do you even know the significance of the virgin birth?
Christ is my LORD AND SAVIOR through HIM all is possible.
>>76883579
It's just like that episode of House, a load of shit he told that poor bastard to get the degenerate coalburning woman off the hook. Fucking cuck.
>>76882115
Read the first few chapters of Matthew
>>76882115
This is blasphemy though :(
>>76883878
Read the first few chapters of this
>>76883861
No if Jesus was born by the seed of Joseph, he would have been bound by original sin, hence could not have been the atoning sacrifice,
>>76882115
>Joseph not only believed this obvious load of shit but then raised the child?? Christfags explain yourselves
He was going to divorce her until he had a vision from God.
>>76883996
>Doesn't understand the concept of supernatural conception.
>Still uses biology to try to disprove something supernatural
>>76882115
Stupid questions, from simple minds
>>76884081
Sounds like when the man said his wife got pregnant from 3D porn.
>>76884056
because he wasnt 'born by the seed of joseph', mary cheated on him with a syrian immigrant and told joseph it was "god"
>>76882263
Because it's totally impossible for a fluid, say from a rimjob, to enter the holes in pic related :^)
>>76883996
Well numnutts, Joseph was going to divorce his wife, but an angel of the lord came to him and told him, otherwise he would have not tolerated it. Unless your using the Talmud as a source, you got nothing, and if you are, your days on the far right are over for using a forbidden Jew source
>>76884245
Evedence? Or GTFO
>>76884317
but he did tolerate it like a pathetic cuck
Even if you accept the story to be true, Joseph was still literally cucked by God. Never forget Christianity was and still is a Jewish invention. Were it not for the "kindness" of Christians, no one would be taking Muslim refugees and blacks probably would have been sent back to Africa.
>>76884466
finally someone with some sense. Pretty racist but youre on the right track
>>76884405
If your a pagan, you have no grounds to stand
If your an atheist, u have no grounds to stand
Which are you?
Yeah. Christianity is the result of the biggest wife's lie to her husband about getting fucked on the side.
Joseph is really dumb too lol. Literally believed his 12 year old wife Mary that she didn't fuck with anyone lol. Like of course she's going to tell that dumbas, she isn't going to say that she fucked with another person.
>>76884575
Baseless claim.
Not an argument.
Which did you make?
>>76884681
Read the beginning of Matthew, it's obvious he originally didn't
>>76884688
Your a panthiest, you can't even say that cucking is a bad thing ;)
>yfw some people still believe Jesuz was white
Stop rustlin my jimmies you heathens.
>>76884907
>slavs
>white
>>76884466
Gee in almost all of the churches I've gone to, we are the exact opposite of what you just said twords Islam
>>76883996
Read the Genesis Flood, God Has Spoken, The Bible in 24 Hours.
Go to Creation.com. Get educated and stop being a memetic troll.
>>76884681
Or he fucked her and didnt want to get in trouble...
>>76884886
Sure I can, and I don't even have to ask my imaginary friend first.
How can you say it is a bad thing when it's an integral part of your faith?
christianity is the cuckold religion, so it's no wonder the pope wants to bring millions of refugees to every white country.
bible tells you to love your enemies, so of course cuckstians love ISIS
>>76885040
jesus died for you, now you should die for him. Kys
>>76885052
Read Matthew five, marige is between one man and one woman, no Tyrone aloud. Divorce is restricted, queers are an abomination, so on that basis Christianity is anti cuck
>>76885292
CHRISTIANITY IS LITERALLY A RESULT OF KEKOLDRY GONE TOO FAR
>>76885264
You seem to have never met an American fundamentalist before, we pretty much the entire US Military
>>76885292
>marige is between one man and one woman
No bull marries the bitch he's fucking. Just like that "god character" didn't marry Joseph's wife :^)
>>76885453
you're pretty much the biggest cucks there are
>>76885405
Hey it's the atheist who promote polyamory and cuckholdry
>>76885625
so what, if you don't repent and put your trust in Christ, you will be caste right into hell
>>76885625
You're not white, aren't you?
>>76885625
apparently not friendo :^)
>>76885871
I'm a scottsman
>>76883996
>a SUPERNATURAL (i.e. not making sense by the physical laws of the universe) event couldn't have happened because it doesn't respect the physical laws of the universe
Ebin
>>76885904
Um I would say the SJWS and Marxists are Atheist, so yeah you guys are
>>76885998
A FUCKING LEAF
>>76885965
They speak English in Scotland, so I doubt that.
See, my guess is that you're some spic that crawled over the US border and now you think you can earn your stay by going overboard with your Christcuckery, because that's the only aspect of supericial "white" culture you can and are allowed to connect to.
>>76886037
>my argument presupposes that there is no supernatural, so yours is stupid because it leaves the possibility open XDDD
>>>r/atheism
>>76886333
>superficial
>>76886333
I speak American English, that's why. Your Austrian English is a different styles
>>76886382
>>>/toronto/
fucking treudau worshipping faggot
>>76886471
The other Americans on this board can speak proper English unlike you, so I doubt that too.
Why don't you post your arm with a timestamp? Maybe you'd better fit in with the Muslims in Dearborn, who follow a religion that's just as true as yours :^)
>>76886523
Fuck off newfag, go back to r eddit.
>>76886805
I've been here since april thank you very much
>>76882115
read the protoevangelium of james
Joseph had already had kids and was a widower, he was entrusted to take care of Mary, not have children with her
>>76886730
I did get a little tan from the beach, but I'm of Anglo, Scott, Germanic descent. I am on a phone and multitasking though,
>>76886902
I've been here since 2011, lurk more. You don't know how our memes work
>>76886949
so he was friendzoned? :^)
>>76887083
And you've never had a girlfriend
>>76884952
said the burger
>>76884182
Believing in something supernatural
>>>/x/
>>76887083
He was a widower, already had children.
>>76886951
>I did get a little tan from the beach, but I'm of Anglo, Scott, Germanic descent.
Sure thing, Hernandez.
Why would any real white person choose to follow a religion that promises an eternity with shitskins that are soon becoming the majority in that little cuck club of yours? The answer is simple: They're either too introctrinated (either by you or other leftists) to care, or too stupid to understand.
>>76887308
Christianity is apart of politics, I'm sorry if this hurts your feelings:(
>>76887515
>Christianity is apart of politics
>apart
You're right, since the US is a secular country, Pablo.
>>76887509
I'm a member of the Alt Right fyi
>>76887509
Do you not know how hard it is to get into heaven? Take a teaspoon of salt, and add it to a bathtub of pepper; those grains of salt represent how many make it to haven whereas the pepper represents those who go to hell.
>>76887752
But Christians vote on their morals
Mine come from God ;)
>>76882115
it's a mushroom cult in disguise do some research
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOu9tV6uy2E
Joseph was the biggest cuck in history. How can humanity even compete?
>>76887982
You have just lost all credibility of any biblical scholarship. You are the dumbest person on this thread. Congrats :)
>>76888007
The whole pagan pantheon is loaded with cucking and bastard children
When Gabriel visited the virgin Mary she wasn't married to Jospeh, just engaged and they lived in separate houses.
No cuckholding because no realtionship.
>>76887886
I like how you HAD to add that reddit tier emoticon on your brown arm, Jose.
>>76887887
>[making up stuff intensifies]
>>76887974
>;)
Can you stop with that cancer? It's embarrassingly obvious that you're from /r/christian or some shit.
>>76887011
A FUCKING LEAF
>>76888185
Oh? what dead language scholar's translation of the dead sea scrolls do you go with?
>>76888305
Wow I didn't even think about that
>>76888384
sorry I should have wrote world renowned scholar
>>76884275
this is fucking gross
I wish I was gay
>>76882115
>Impregnated by "God"
>This cuck believed whatever the woman tells him
>>76882115
He was told by angels what happened, he would have divorced her if not. He was waiting to do it quietly because he did not want people to stone her to death, and then he was told what happened
>>76888384
The Dead Sea scrolls is OT no New Testament scrolls.
>>76888363
I'm white, show yourself Achmed
>>76888623
>He was waiting to do it quietly because he did not want people to stone her to death
Can Joseph get any more cucked?
>>76888623
This cuck was in so much denial that he started hallucinating angels telling him his wife didn't cheat on him?
pathetic
>>76888363
Less tan here, should I show you my Arian tail
>>76888841
Atleast he wasn't Dutch though
>>76888650
>>76888650
and inference are drawn from it
>>76889133
You have a lot of faith to believe that, do you subscribe to the mithracult as well
>>76889011
Why are born again mexicans always so fat and
>>76889352
I'll ask one for you sometime, but if you don't repent, you will go to hell
>>76889011
That skin tone reminds me of someone.
>>76889497
>but if you don't repent, you will go to hell
If you don't praise Allah you're going to Jahannam :^)
>>76889640
What ever Achmed,you know God exists, repent or Go to Hell, your choice
>>76889773
Didn't know you were Muslim
>>76889837
>you know God exists, repent or Go to Hell, your choice
You know Allah exists, praise him or go to Jahannam, your choice.
(Do you not notice how little effect shit like this has on you? Are you so little self-aware, Hondulio?)
>>76889871
I'm not, I'm just using another religion that's just as true as yours to show you the folly of your "arguments".
>>76889497
I won't repent to a deity casted by a dessert tribe of usurers. I do not humour what makes my own cultural heritage kneel down.
Celts and tartessians had a beautiful religion that valued generosity bravery honor and adventure. I see the same mountains that amazed them. What can you say about your cuck dessertcult?
>>76888478
It ain't much better in here, kid.
>>76890080
>What can you say about your cuck dessertcult?
Probably reminds him of home.
>>76890080
Of course you won't, not until the Holy Spirit convicts you, until then, you couldn't even choose God
>>76890063
So you can't defend your position without borrowing from another?
>>76889989
muhammed wrote that jesus was only a prophet, like him
then, just in case, muhammad also wrote "no more prophets after me double whammy no takebacks"
a lot different than jesus who came back from the dead and so many people witnessed it that we get the renaissance 1400 years later taking its inspiration from it
http://www.ldolphin.org/CSLtrinity.html
>>76890292
That holy spirit doesn't exist outside of your mind. It's like the spirit of the 6 gorillion :^)
do Christcucks on /pol/ believe in Creationism too?
>>76890492
And you know this with absolute certainty
>>76890542
Yep
>>76885041
Lol Genesis claims that the ocean and wind existed before the sun, then the land rose out of the water and the sun popped into existence.
It's what a modern 6 year old or a Iron age desert farmer would come up with to explain the world.
>>76890292
A holy spirit, as said by a sandtribe of usurers. I see every morning the forests, creeks and mountains where my actual ancestors first found their gods. Why would i reject them and not you
>>76890434
I have no position in this conversation other than you being wrong. If I can use Islam to show you how untrue your religion is, why wouldn't I?
Like you said
>>>76890456
>then, just in case, muhammad also wrote "no more prophets after me double whammy no takebacks"
Islam is to Christianity what Christianity is to the ancient Jews.
Mohammad also said that Jesus transformed a boy to die on his stead on the cross. This means he didn't die and he didn't come back - this means he's a hack fraud.
Nobody witnessed him coming back other than people personally invested in him coming back and if "witnessing" him is your argument for the truth, then Islam is even more true since not only did more people witness Mohammad during his life, they could still witness him existing in the first place if they go to the Green Dome in Mecca where his tomb is.
Some art made by whites 1400 years after a story took place doesn't make something real. Because if it does, then that'd mean we should worship Zeus since Hercules was real as well.
>>76890903
Because you know the Christian God exists Romans 1
>>76890621
I know this with as much certainty as you know that it does :^)
We could look at the objective evidence and try to find out which one of us is right.
>>76890931
I can give you some evidence that Islam is not as credible Christianity, but proving and convincing are two different things
>>76891003
"No babe is born but upon Fitra (as a Muslim). It is his parents who make him a Jew or a Christian or a Polytheist." (Sahih Muslim, Book 033, Number 6426)
Looks like you're really a muslim and just roleplaying as something your mammy and pappy wanted you to be.
>>76891003
The god you're refering to is jewish not christian
>>76890621
I know this is really hard for you to understand, but everything you think, feel and perceive is a result of your brain function. Some things that you believe to be real or true are not either outside of your mind.
>>76891011
D o you know that you know that
>>76891183
>I can give you some evidence that Islam is not as credible Christianity
I'm sure you as muslim have a better insight into Islam as I do, so please go ahead.
>>76890931
>Some art made by whites 1400 years after a story took place doesn't make something real.
no. it doesn't. but if THEY did not believe, no inspiration. do you see the argument now?
A doctor examined her and said she was a virgin.
She must have been banging him.
>>76891186
Well by that definition, your a Muslim too
>>76891223
In repented Jews don't believe in the trinity, so no
>>76891244
Is it sophistry time again? That shit didn't work the last time, why do you still try it?
I've thought about this, too.
I heard about the translation to english may have meant the Mary was "innocent" and not a "virgin".
Either way, Christianity is not going to go away until the entire world agrees to a new reference of time, i.e. the year.
>>76891292
Muslims claim that Jesus was a prophet who was not put to death, but was ascended to heaven like Elijah
Tacitus (Roman historian) claimed that Jesus was condemned by Pontus Pilate
>>76891295
> but if THEY did not believe, no inspiration.
Does that mean Spiderman and Co are real?
>>76891343
Yep. Now that we've acknowledged that, care to testify with me together? :^) It's time that you lay off your false faith.
>>76891411
You admitted you couldn't know anything to be true, do you wish to demonstrate how you can, in your world view
>>76891607
>Tacitus (Roman historian) claimed that Jesus was condemned by Pontus Pilate
How could he have known? He wasn't there and even if he was, if Jesus really transformed a boy to die on the cross in his stead then he wouldn't even have noticed a difference.
Tacitus also said that your religion is an evil superstition and it's spreading in Rome solely because of how wretched and stupid the people in Rome are. I do agree with him. Do you?
>>76891654
Muslims also know which God is true, but they try to worship a God they can appease (Romans 1)
Paul negates Muhammad Gal 1:6-10
>>76891391
You're arguing for your believes using those same believes you have yet not proven, as evidence to prove them.
I guess logic IS a pagan invention
>>76891654
To be fair stan lee probably believes in spidermann
>>76891712
>You admitted you couldn't know anything to be true
Cite me. I know what I know. That's the only thing I can be certain of.
I've dropped solipsism in one of our past conversations, you really should've looked it up.
>>76891826
He was a pagan, of course he would hate Christianity. They hate us because they hate God.
>>76888478
you're disgusted by a vagina? That is pretty gay. Vagina's are beautiful. You came out of one, didn't you?
>>76891949
Show me how you can account for logic in your world view
>>76891957
How do you know what you know
>>76891865
So Paul basically said the same thing as Mohammad (I'm right, the others aren't)? :^)
Wow, how can we figure out which one of them is right?
>>76892066
I just showed you how you can't
>>76892142
Paul came first
>>76892170
That's not what I asked
>>76882115
>thread about 2016 elections and obama causing devastation gets slid for a kike making fun of christ
fuck you jew
>>76892218
So you acknowledge you do not care for logic. I'm fine with you admitting you're irrational and thus sub human
>>76891972
I hate you because you're obnoxious faggots and cucks that ruin my nation.
I don't believe your god is real. I'm sure that Tacitus thought the same way.
Anyway, why would you cite a pagan like him then as if him saying something proves anything?
>>76892120
>How do you know what you know
Because I grasp it with my mind.
>>76892311
Christ was the biggest jewjew, only contested by abraham the original jew, and inventor of jehovah
>>76892182
And before Paul were the Jews who widely didn't acknowledge Jesus as the messiah and before the Jews were the Egyptians who worshipped Kek, who - if you remember our first conversation - revealed to me that you're wrong.
Kek is the primeval darkness before the universe even existed, so he's the oldest and I win.
Kekist: 1
Christcuck: 0
Time to convert.
>>76891607
>Tacitus (Roman historian) claimed that Jesus was condemned by Pontus Pilate
Tacitus quote is a blatant fake. Just like the Josephus one.
Try harder christcuck.
>>76892674
Furthermore entropy and the rise of trump pretty much scientifically prove Kek
>>76892396
My world view can account for logic, yours can't
>>76892416
And your mind is just the product of chemical reactions?
>>76893096
>Furthermore entropy
Good point. Yet there are still people who deny Kek despite the scientific evidence. It's sad.
>>76893373
Your worldview negates logic.
>>76892674
Prophesy psalms 22
Isaiah
Jews waiting for messaiah
Jesus rising from the Dead and appearing to 500 witnesses
>>76882115
REMINDER THAT THIS IS A TALMUDIC DOCTRINE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud#Pandera_and_alleged_adultery_by_Mary
OP is a JEW
Why else would be be preaching Judaism on /pol/?
>>76893044
You need to show me when it was faked or display some evidence, scholars with brains accept Tacitus and there is a good Tektontv video series on Josephus,
>>76893436
Even if I was just a computer programm or a brain in a jar, me being able to grasp things with my mind, thus thinking, at least allow for a solipsist worldview.
And me deifying what I can grasp, whatever that may be, makes pantheism the only logical religion to have.
That's why I'm a pantheist and not a Christcuck who has to jump through mental hoop after hoop for his irrational fairy tale to even make sense, and that's ignoring the lack of any evidence supporting it.
Even a meme like Kek makes more sense like your religion, yet you still hold onto it. And WHY you do it is something that we've established earlier, Gonzales :^)
>>76893467
And you know this with absolute certainty?
>>76888478
Hi summerfag
>>76882115
What was he supposed to say, "aw hell naw God, I ain't no cuck" and decline to be the father figure for the savior of all mankind? That's some real nigger tier logic.
>>76893914
So you know for a fact your reasoning is valid?
>>76893657
>who widely didn't acknowledge Jesus
The fact that there are still non-Christian Jews supports my claim.
Meanwhile, do you have anything supporting that there were 500 witnesses and not just 1 guy desperate for Jesus to write down some falsehood?
Ever heard of the Gambler's fallacy? I'm sure if you follow some guy for decades and he turns out to be a hack fraud you'd try rationalizing being so stupid.
>>76894053
Yes, since it relies on two things that are self-evident to me. That I can think. And that I'm grasping something.
Pantheism is a very simple thing. Because the truth doesn't need to be complicated.
>>76894203
Paul claimed 500 witnesses in a letter written in a time period when people could varify the claim.
>>76894342
Do you know that the truth isn't complicated?
>>76894529
>Paul claimed 500 witnesses in a letter written in a time period when people could varify the claim.
So? Who did he send the letter to? Did the one that got that letter verify the claim? If yes, where can I read up on that? If no, why do you think that it happened?
>>76894604
Binary isn't that complicated, lad.
>>76882115
Only clicked to confirm flag. American every single time.
>>76882115
Yes. Christians worship the bull and his son. Who cucked Jewsef while he worshipped his wifes son. Also Christianity is the religion of Jailbait (13yo Mary)
Pisslam is the pedo religion (6yo Aiesha, the ghetto nog)
Jewdaism is the vampire religion ( sucking baby boy dick blood and wallets of the goyem dry)
Hindus are just furrys.
Buddhists are chubby chasers.
Pagens are tree fucking hippies
Gaythiests are just the neck-beard NEET (not enlightened, euphoric theists)
>>76895218
Mohammad at least was white unlike Jesus :^)
>>76895316
Was he a tanned austrian?
>>76894871
I'll get it to you but for now, most Biblical scholars date the Pauline letters from 10-30 years after the death of Christ
>>76882115
>CHRISTKEKS
>Adultery is forbiden by Christianity
Ahmed pls
>>76882115
>The Cherry Tree Carol
>"The Cherry-Tree Carol" is a ballad with the rare distinction of being both a Christmas carol and one of the Child Ballads (no. 54).[1] The song itself is very old, reportedly sung in some form at the Feast of Corpus Christi in the early 15th century.
>The ballad relates an apocryphal story of the Virgin Mary, presumably while traveling to Bethlehem with Joseph for the census. In the most popular version, the two stop in a cherry orchard, and Mary asks her husband to pick cherries for her, citing her child. Joseph spitefully tells Mary to let the child's father pick her cherries.
>>76895445
>While we were sitting with the Prophet in the mosque, a man came riding on a camel. He made his camel kneel down in the mosque, tied its foreleg and then said: "Who amongst you is Muhammad?" At that time the Prophet was sitting amongst us (his companions) leaning on his arm. We replied, "This white man reclining on his arm." The an then addressed him, "O Son of 'Abdul Muttalib."
>Sahih Bukhari 1:3:63
>I heard Abii Juhaifa saying, "I saw the Prophet, and Al-Hasan bin 'Ali resembled him." I said to Abu- Juhaifa, "Describe him for me." He said, "He was white and his beard was black with some white hair. He promised to give us 13 young she-camels, but he expired before we could get them."
>Sahih Bukhari 4:56:744
>I saw Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and there is one amongst the people of the earth who (are living at the present time and) had seen him except me. I said to him: How did you find him? He said: He had an elegant white color, and he was of an average height.
>Sahih Muslim 30:5778
Meanwhile the description of Jesus:
>14The hair of His head was white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes were like a blazing fire. 15His feet were like polished bronze refined in a furnace
>Revelation 1:14-15
Everything about his conception screams "black" too.
>>76895577
What would it take for you to admit you're wrong?
>>76896206
On God nothing, on church history, I could be
>>76896310
So you're saying you can't be WRONG about that issue?
Your idea of "god" rests on those church history, after all, you're worshipping the Christian god and not the Islamic one - we've established that.
So if you're willing to accept you're wrong about the church then you might as well be wrong about your idea of "god" since both of these things are connected.
Everything else would be intellectually dishonest.
>>76888297
This entire thread summed up in one picture
>>76896966
I meant I might be wrong in certain issues detailing like let's say I could be off dating of the letters, but currently most biblical scholars use historical evidence to evaluate dates. Look up cold case Christianity on YouTube if your interested in that stuff.
>>76896128
The hair of His head was white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes were like a blazing fire.
Black with snow hair, red pupil kek
Only albinos have red iris, so jesus is the whitest man on earth.
>>76897390
There's no historical evidence for anything that would make your religion any more true than others though.
>>76884466
And if it wasn't for Pagans in Medina and Mecca Mohammed would have died without a trace. Pagans let Islam flourish first.
>>76897541
Or maybe his eyes were just shining? You're ignoring the description of his feet on purpose.
When you put bronze in a furnace, it turns black.
Pic related is the acurate visualization of Jesus Christ according with his descriptions in the bible.
>>76897695
Do you know that?
The Quran was written by one man who claimed to talk to an Angel. No records of performing miracles. Is as valid as the mormans.
The Bible contains 66 books written by multiple authors over the course of a thousand and change years, the manuscript evidence is better than any other historical book,
The New Testament alone has multiple authors who coorispond three of which were eyewitnesses to Jesus Christ
>>76882115
An angel appeared to Joseph too faggot
>>76898128
His feets were bronze because the sunlight colored them.
>>76897695
But proof isn't the same as pursuation. I recognize that we both have our pressupostions
>>76898362
Do you know what the Hadiths are? They're exactly the same what you're arguing here for :^)
Accept it, Christianity is just as true as Islam: not.
>>76898552
Did Muhammad perform miracles, how did his followers verify his prophet status?
>>76898128
>polished bronze after a furnace?
>black?
>>76898528
>bronze because the sunlight colored them
And for them to be bronze under sunlight they must've been darker before the sun shined on them. You just confirmed what I said: that Jesus was a nigger and that he spent his life desperately trying to convince everyone that his dad will come back eventually.
He even chose suicide by the ancient cop equivalent once he realized that his dad won't come back.
"Why have you forsaken me, father?" - not black. Come on.
>>76898900
Yes, when you burn bronze in a furnace it turns black and rough, and when you polish it again it ends up like pic related. The feet of a black man.
>>76898700
I'm as much muslim as you are, you can go and look up his miracles. One that regularly gets mentioned that even I know of is him traveling faster to Medina than humanly possible - with his followers.
>>76892416
>Anyway, why would you cite a pagan like him then as if him saying something proves anything?
>Being this retarded
He cited Tacitus to show the contradiction in Islam's claim that Jesus never died and the most widely accepted theory that Jesus did die on the cross
>>76899258
"His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters."
Does glowing metal look black?
>>76882115
I've never really understood how people can believe in the bible and all those retarded stories that some nutcracker wrote while tripping on ayahuasca and still come on here and have the "/pol/" type mentality - relying on facts.
>>76899258
You're saying the bronze was put back into the furnace, then polished?
>>76884405
the pathetic cuck is you
>normie
>>76899460
See >>76891826
>>76899474
>>76899561
>taking shitposting about some jewish hippie this seriously
Come on lads.
>>76899258
Galatians negates Islam, it says if An Angel teaches something different than what we taught, let them be anathema, what appeared to Muhammad to teach him?
>>76899258
>>76899474
>"His feet were like bronze glowing in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of rushing waters."
Does glowing metal look black?
THIS
>>76882115
Jew here. We believe Jesus's father was a Roman soldier and he attempted to subvert both the Jews and the Romans (not that he's a historical person, but that there was rebellion against the Pharisees), and he succeeded in overthrowing neither but founded a pseudo-jewish religion that allowed slaves in (unlike Judaism) in order to overthrow the Roman Empire.
>>76900093
You guys are just butt hurt
>>76899865
>implying all sources written after the time an event occurred are unreliable
yea, let's throw out half of the world's history that has be gathered for the past millennium
>>76899920
>Galatians negates Islam
Only if you presume that your book is true in its entirety.
Do you presume this?
Let's assume angels are real. Let's assume the existence of angels was widespread knowledge.
What's stopping someone from making up stuff and then saying if an angel teaches something different from what that someone just made up, it's wrong?
How do you know whether it's made up. And if you don't, on what basis do you dismiss what an angel teaches, just because it differs from someone else's teachings?
>>76900092
If something glows this much how would you know it's feet you're looking at? :^)
>>76900439
... because Muhammad himself said he was possessed?
>>76900439
Paul was under the authority of Christ, watch the cold case Christianity video if you want to learn about the validity of the New Testament,
>>76900279
If that world history doesn't stand up to cross references of primary sources (like with the holohoax), or if there aren't even any primary sources (like with the crucifiction), then it should - if not thrown out - at least be taken with a grain of salt.
The only rational position a Christian can take in is that of a roleplaying agnostic. If Christians could acknowledge that we wouldn't have these shitty threads every day on a board that's not about religion.
>>76900738
Religion plays a role in politics, deal with it
>>76882115
There was less degeneracy back then so a lot of people were Christian so it is obvious that Joseph would believe that """""""load of shit"""""
and he would be happy to raise the future Messiah made by the big man himself.
>inb4 but he was still a cuckold
God is not man, he is God. So, she wasn't even technically impregnated by another man so no cuckoldry here. Fucking heathen, go back to your liberal arts college.
>>76884466
Christians literally defended europe against islam for 1400 years.. and is the only reason you are not speaking arabic now...
it's leftists doing this now.. not christians.. You fucking what m8.. 11/10 on the deception scale.. The current situation is only because fags like you run around popooing christianity and the media has tried to debase and ridicule it for decades now..
http://shoebattube.com/player/embed_player.php?vid=1194&width=660&height=440&autoplay=no
>>76882115
jesus didn't have a human father, this was also how he was able to do the things he did. "muh i don't understand it therefore it must be wrong" is a ridiculous assertion.
>>76900490
the negative space around the form
>>76888478
No freal, vagainas are gay as shit, anyone who likes an actual vagina is gay, its literally one step away from an asshole
>would you rather fuck a shithole
>or a shithole with blood
>>76900633
Possessed by what?
>>76900678
>Paul was under the authority of Christ
Please see the assumption that made up more than half of my post.
Then think of 2 people making up stuff. Then answer the questions.
>>76901003
You have your presupps, no amount of evidence can convert you
>>76900490
Like that
>>76900738
so dumb austria.. home of siege of vienna and already forgot that history too i'd imagine.l
The life and death of jesus christ is one of the most well established fact in history simply because they have been trying to debunk it but have failed, it's only in recent decades that people have started to do this kind of hogwash "research" to try to cast doubt on this.. in the past even atheist scholars agreed that jesus existed and he was crucified and did and said some remarkable things, they argue weither jesus arose from the grave afterwards.. but it's well recorded from numerous sources that this occurred..
>>76900820
>deal with it
We already dealt with it with secularism. Notice how these religious threads never talk about politics but only devolve to arguments whether your god is real or not, HOW cucked your religion is compared to others, and buttblasted cucks posting hat pictures.
>>76900978
Where does it talk about that negative space in Revelations?
>>76882115
Dude... did you really think you'd get anywhere insulting Christians over the actions of their saints on, this board? You calling them out on things that don't make sense to you isn't going to get them to give up their faith. Joseph deciding to raise Jesus really isn't the hardest thing to believe in the book; it has plenty of other things that don't make sense, so why'd you choose this? Some Christians (although few) don't believe that Mary was a virgin (can't remember the name of sect) and believe that Joseph was the father, Jesus still becoming a vessel of God. To call it cuckoldry isn't exactly appropriate either, the guy was pretty old when he married her: people didn't have Viagra back then; it wasn't a sex-based marriage. Even if he were a cuck, it doesn't really say anything about Christianity or the way Christians behave. If you're going to pointlessly attack Christians, at least bother to learn the meaning behind the mythology before you spout shit. It's edgelords like you that make atheists look bad.
http://pastebin.com/xMQ9wAwW
For Christians and seekers.
>>76901239
Source.
The bible is full of historical inaccuracies.
Even biblical scholars admit this.
>>76900738
If that's your take on history, then most of the history you learned in school should be thrown out. Much of history were not written by at the time period the event occurred.
>>76901250
So cucked that it held western civilization together.
If you want to learn about the validity of the NT, look up cold case Christianity the guys name is J Warner Wallace.
Only the Holy Spirit can convict you, I could show you all the evidence, and you wouldn't change your mind
>>76901095
What are presupps, Pablo?
>no amount of evidence can convert you
That's not true, I'd just like evidence and not just hearsay.
YOU on the other hand have already admitted that you'd never admit in being wrong. It's truly pointless talking with you.
>>76901239
>so dumb austria.. home of siege of vienna and already forgot that history too i'd imagine.l
It wasn't the Christian god that came down to protect Vienna - it was the Poles and the Hungarians.
>The life and death of jesus christ is one of the most well established fact in history simply because they have been trying to debunk it but have failed
Sounds like the exact same thing we hear of another event that's very dubious. I can't help but to see the semitic connection.
>they argue weither jesus arose from the grave afterwards.. but it's well recorded from numerous sources that this occurred..
There's a reason why testimonies are the least reliable form of "evidence" in front of court.
But go ahead, post all those great sources.
>>76901716
What evidence would convince you that Christianity was true?
>>76901250
>If something glows this much how would you know it's feet you're looking at? :^)
>where does it talk about that negative space in revelations?
why would it have to?
i think you're imagining 'negative space' to mean some kind of spooky sci-fi dark-matter black hole aura but it just means: 'the space around and between the subject(s) of an image.'
Don't bother with this guy. He's an insecure edgelord who thinks he can convince people who've lived their entire lives by a single philosophy to give u everything they believe in via internet argument. Most atheists wouldn't give a shit about what other people believe in; this guy's a lonely fuck who thinks he needs to convert everyone to his way of thinking, and does so by insulting the people they respect.
sage
>>76901603
>So cucked that it held western civilization together.
When was that? When the first Christian emperor split the Roman empire into half?
When it took 500 years of Christians getting raped and murdered by muslims for them to finally do something - and even then it was the people who sold their farms so that they hard armor and weapon, not the church - and that something was mainly killing pagans in the north and raping orthodox nuns in constantinople? Notice how North Africa and the Middle East aren't under the hegemony of that civilization that Christianity allegedle held together anymore.
Was it when millions of Germans died during the schism of catholics and protestants?
Was it when they convinced smart men and fertile women to waste their lives away instead of procreating?
Was it when they decided to take resources from whites and funnel those resources to Africa to spread the word - all while prohibiting birth control which led to that population explosion that mades us have to deal with 4 billion niggers by 2100?
Was it when they spread nonsense like equality and tolerance, lowering the natural defenses of our people against external threat?
Was it when they started importing those nigger into our countries because our people left their club and because they lost relevancy in our societies?
Whatever good Christianity might have done, it doesn't outweigh the negatives. And in times like these where we very well might be on the brink of destruction we need to rethink what's valuable keeping and what's better off destroyed.
And Cuckstianity needs to be destroyed.
>>76901811
Have God show up and tell me himself.
>>76900738
Also, note that the crucifixion's primary sources are the gospels, if the definition of primary are firsthand witnesses.
>>76902477
Not an argument, you pathetic little shit that's not man enough to adress the person he's talking about.
>>76882115
>tfw your wife's son is the messiah
>>76902833
>note that the crucifixion's primary sources are the gospels
How reliable do you think biased witnesses are?
>>76902799
do you really feel entitled to a personal visit from the omnipotent creator of the universe?
wouldn't you just chalk it up to a hallucination because of your presuppositions and just take some pills afterwards?
>>76902953
> biased witnesses are
Unless you only believe historical events of the past century, you are being incredibly dishonest in your criticism of the Bible
>>76899460
>jesus died
>jesus is god
>god was killed by humans
christcuks will defend this. inb4 it was all part of the plan, no it wasn't, jesus shouted in pain and fucking bled like a human being
>>76902799
Okay
>>76902994
If he wants me to worship him, then him showing up so that I know he's real is the least thing he could do.
>wouldn't you just chalk it up to a hallucination because of your presuppositions and just take some pills afterwards?
Good point - he should show up to all people at once so that everyone can verify with each other.
Wanna bet money on how likely that is to happen?
>>76903086
The further back, the less likely are acurate descriptions of events when all you have are alleged witness accounts.
How would you know back then if someone was making up a story or if something really happened?
>>76902884
>not man enough to adress the person he's talking about
I addressed him in my previous comment. The one you replied to was meant for the thread. I'm sick of all of these stupid pro/anti-theist threads being made every other day on this fucking site. They're pointless: Nobody is so agnostic that an internet argument could get them to change their way of life. These threads are total bullshit; nobody ever leaves them with a fresh opinion. If people are going to poke at each other's lifestyles, they should do it in person so that they can actually accomplish something.
>>76902799
In all honesty he has claimed to reveal himself in a way that you already can know of his existence
And he has no obligation to come to tell you he exists, but I will pray that he will, so that you might be saved
>>76903573
You know what, I agree completely. Sorry for snapping at you.
>>76903573
I like you
>>76903486
>How would you know back then if someone was making up a story or if something really happene
Christians were persecuted for testifying the death and resurrection of Jesus
Couple that with the secondhand accounts of these events from other historians (yes even the ones biased against Christianity), it's likely that Jesus died on the cross. I also highly doubt you apply the same stringent criteria for the reliability of all historical sources.
>>76903292
go rape your daughter moe
>>76903631
>In all honesty he has claimed to reveal himself in a way that you already can know of his existence
That's too vague, that's something other religions claim as well, that's certainly not to base your life on.
>And he has no obligation to come to tell you he exists, but I will pray that he will, so that you might be saved
Convenient, isn't it?
ITT:
2spooky supernatural Christians in damage control
Edgy smug atheists using bro science and non arguments
Know who isn't in this thread?Jamal. He's fucking white girls, enjoying life and keeping lean and mean.
While the white boys debate religion on a Chinese cartoon forum.
