What would happen if the US left nato and stopped defending europe?
What would become of their socialist utopias without uncle sam to watch their backs?
>>76848709
typical vancouver coffee shop?
>>76848709
average_canadians.jpg
>>76848800
no it's minah from girl's day
>>76848709
The US wants to be the only military on the planet. Its not doing anyone any favors.
>>76848709
Euros will spend more on defense.
The wouldnt be ruled by americans anymore
>>76848709
they cant, murifags love too much to stick their jew nose in business that arent theirs
>>76849014
but could they afford defence and social programs at the same time?
defence is expensive just look at the US
Sometime when you have 81 minutes to spare, watch this whole thing. Pretty good documentary. Used to be on Amazon/Netflix but looks like he decided to just release it on YouTube.
Premise is exactly what OP says: U.S. elects a president that decides to get out of the world stage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEVqk-eAqy0
>>76849779
ty i'll check it out
>>76849073
but could they afford defence and social programs yat the same time?
Yes.
What is America defending Europe against? Yes, nothing. In reality, the whole migrant crisis we have right now was caused by the Bush Iraq invasion, the Bush Afghanistan invasion and the Obama-Cameron-French Libya invasion etc.
Fuck it, we would all be better off without NATO.
>>76848870
I fucking love this gook
>>76848709
Poland would whip them into shape.
>>76850445
If the US steps back I'm pretty sure Europe would become the United States of Russia/China
>>76848709
We would get rid of Obongo's influence. Please make it happen under a Trump presidency
>>76848709
>not even in nato
>our neighbor is russia
makes sense
>>76848709
It's actually mutually beneficial for the US to help out other countries around the world. If they don't, countries like China and Russia would take control of other countries on a whim.
Eventually it would be China and Russia vs the US, UK, and other commonwealth countries. The US and other Anglo countries would lose.
>>76848709
nice gook
>>76848709
>What would happen if the US left nato and stopped defending europe?
Fun times in Eastern Europe.
>>76850537
>United States of Russia/China
China has no ambition in Europe.
Russia's economy is 15 times smaller than the EU. Actually, the only thing Russia wants is love and some trade and to sit with us on a table.
>>76848709
Russia would start pecking at europe. We don't stay there because we like fucking europeans and want to defend them we stay there to keep russia from increasing it's power base
>>76850537
US pulling out of Europe absolute top kek the US is in Europe for its own interest not ours.
>>76849073
They can.
It's not too expensive at all. Some euro countries already have a more or less powerfull army
>>76851169
Reginald knows... it just so happens that our interest in Russia involve protecting europe from russia trying to spread it power base
>>76851236
There is no army in europe that could stop russia, us,or china.... they could put up a fight I'm not saying that but they could not win
>>76848709
What would Likly happen is mayo would want to increase its military strength and presence, while the USA does the same. The resulting consequence would a load of proxies between the USA and NATO, also it might lead to some European countries fearing the USA, giving Russia a stronger presence in Europe. I dunno just my 2 cents senpai
They would be fine, they don't need our help.
>>76851539
>us
why even list them?
>china
do they buy a ticket for the trans-siberian railroad to get to yurop?
>russia
Well, it's not the cold war anymore.
Russia is not able to wage a conventional war of conquest against europe in any case.
The former eastern block members would fight tooth and nail while receiving support from the rest of Europe.
>>76848709
germany would remilitarize
>>76852168
>what is yugoslavia
>>76852509
you really don't get it do you
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/04/27/the-european-union-always-was-a-cia-project-as-brexiteers-discov/
>>76850445
The migrant crisis was caused by Merkel opening the doors to the world of Islam, using the wars in Iraq and Syria as an excuse.
>>76852299
You delusional if you think the entirety of europe could stand a chance against Russian tanks and infantry swarming your country. China would have logistic issues running a campaign in europe and they would be the least succesful in holding any ground they gained and the US well we have no reason to destroy Europe but if it was necessary no one would help you but islam against us. And we could wage war in europe without ever having to worry about american soil. All of Europe's armed forces combined are less than 25% of our military.
>>76852679
Riddle me this, wasn't the planning and ground work for the EU in place before the CIA existed?
Who cares? It's not our problem anymore and whole narrative about the JewSA "protecting" Europe with NATO is false to begin with.
>>76848709
What would happen to capitalist utopia Canada without America?
>>76852824
>whatis OSS
>>76852299
>Russia is not able to wage a conventional war in Europe
Because the US has a large military presence in Europe. Without the US no Euro military would be strong enough to challenge Russia's military.
How many Leos does Germany have? France, England, Poland? Does it add up to the 5k T-90s Russia has?
>>76852913
Is it really worth the risk though? Not only would Russia and China start expanding territories, but some countries would feel disenfranchised. Some would willingly change sides to go against the USA.
>>76852679
The EU a CIA project? Americans support the brexit.... that is one hell of a project holy shit our CIA is a a fucking beast to manipulate the entirety of Europe to that degree. Get your tin foil hats boys this one is a dousy......
>>76848709
what a top tier qt
i wnt to help clean it up so she feels better
>>76853009
Why would two white peoples [Europe and Russia] need spic-niggers working for the jews to be involved at all?
>>76853099
yes shlomo
>retarded kike trying to kike /pol/
fuck off jew
>>76848709
>What would happen if the US left nato and stopped defending europe?
>nato
>defending europe
but that's wrong, you fucking retard
>>76853073
What risk? The USA is some kike African shithole. It's mind boggling that anyone in Europe still sides with it as it is.
What garbage.
>>76853181
Firstly
>Slavs
>White
Secondly, wtf are you on about?
>>76853313
Is there anything sadder than the yellow ribbon shill brigade? No, there isn't.
>>76849073
America has far, far more than what is required for defense, it has a military that can deploy anywhere in the world on a whim with absolutely absurd force. Germany isn't slacking in terms of military, but they don't have the insane logistics America does. Yes, I'd say defense is quite affordable.
>>76852799
While you are right you need to realise that you are making the assumption that if the US were to pull out of Europe military spending in Europe wouldn't increase, most of the EU has become complacent with very low military budgets because of Americas presence deters any threats.
>>76848709
They would no longer be able to afford dindus while trying to rebuild their own militaries.
>implications
>>76853206
>>76853426
I'm honestly not following. Are you saying that the US military presence in Europe hasn't been a deterrent to communist expansion for the last 70 years?
Or are you saying that European militaries are stronger than they actually are?
>>76848709
Europe is going to become a third world muslim shithole no matter what the US does.
>>76850807
Mostly because NATO would go to war with Russia if they stepped a foot inside your country
How are all those Russian jets and submarines making incursions into your territory, by the way?
>>76853073
Sooooo as long as it doesn't fuck with the petro dollar we won't give a shit....
Russia and China are unlikely allies. But they are competition. We know this have been preparing for years. (Pic related) if you notice how many of those little dots surround our competition. And if europeans started jumping ship it wouldn't matter unless we had a strategic base already in the country wanting to change sides. If said base would be important in a war effort, we would go to war with said country to keep it there. We have done it before.
>>76853009
You don't understand. Of course could Russia steamroll Poland for example but they would immediatly bogged down in an asymetrical warfare campaign. It would be partisans everywhere.
Also if the industrial power in Europe would be converted to a war footing Russia would be outproduced in no time.
>>76853634
The US military IS the communist expansion. The US military and the US in general is GROUND ZERO for global Marxism -- not Russia. You are a delusional, worthless faggot who should stop posting.
Every single European country that has allied with the US has been turned into a nigger-filled, kike-ruled shit hole of drugs and violence. Every single country that does NOT ally with the US stays White and peaceful.
God damn you idiots are dense.
>>76848709
They'd get a nice hefty dose of national debt, but would likely not have the sense to send economic migrants home.
>>76850495
>those legs
>>76848709
islamic countires would invade and take over europe. oh wait...
>>76853442
Even something like the extra 5-10 euro money dollars they save is going to social investments. That's a shit ton of welfare spread over their small population.
>>76848709
I kinda wish that would happen, so we could rebuild our militaries.
>>76853643
But the same could be for Estonia. They are a little shit country.
>>76853988
True, true. I'm not an expert, but they likely would have to cut back on social benefits.
Or maybe the major European countries have sufficient defense. Who knows.
>>76853787
>Asymmetrical warfare
Sure, like what happened when eastern Europe was under Soviet control the first time, right?
>Industrial power
Industrial power that would have to be built, which takes time. Time is something Europe doesn't have, considering Russia has twice as many AFVs as all major Euro militaries combined and the speed of modern warfare.
Euros also don't have the logistical capacity to deploy outside of their countries in large numbers. This is something they rely on the Americans for, again.
>>76853828
Ah, alright, you're just retarded. Got it. That explains the contextual-less ramblings earlier.
>>76853200
Ummmm no reason to get your knickers in a twist reggie ol boy kek shit is ridiculous though. We have been known to do it in central and south america. Just didn't think europeans could be easily manipulated.... third world yes, European first world.... if so my hats off to the CIA one hell of a job kek
>>76853828
Every state that has allied with the US becomes complacent in their duties to their national defense.
Thus their pride in their country dwindles, they become limp wristed faggot liberals.
It's the same thing that happens to children coddled by their parents.
>>76854340
it's like you have no knowledge of ww2
>>76852394
>>76854046
>>76854231
>>76854254
>>76854340
>>76854384
Get out of our countries fat scum
>>76853480
That's the entire point of the thread Nigel.
Without being able to rest comfortably under the blanket of Freedom we provide, Europe would have to actually spend more on defense and the gibs would have to be cut.
You guys could probably turtle on your island and be safe but the rest of Europe would be in deep shit in that circumstance.
>>76854641
It says a lot about your country that you can be bullied by fat fuck stupid shits so easily.
>>76854384
No. It is deliberate flooding by the American imperium. For US protection, you must murder, slay, dispossess your own people. You must Africanize. You must Judaize.
It's nothing but narratives that worthless Red State Randy's repeat to themselves to keep believing in their yellow ribbon lie. The US is an African Communist terror state that attacks Europe [see refugee flow] whenever Europe shows signs of breaking away.
>>76854641
Yeah, those 1700 command staff that train your shitty excuse for an army sure are burdensome to your thriving economy of incest and caravan stealing.
>>76854780
>flooding
No one in the US was calling for Europe's conversion to Islam.
They chose their fate freely.
I don't see the big jewish boot on Hungary for refusing refugees.
>>76854780
That's funny considering it is the EU and Angela Merkel leading the movement for importing refugees.
>>76853480
Oh I'm not saying it wouldn't I'm saying in the state it is in now. I know what you mean though and it is causing problems between us believe it or not we have requested that Britain, France, and Germany increase defense spending so it isn't all on us.... and you all said no. I have no problem protect Britain or British interest (despite Americans hating to hear it we are of British origin, our founding fathers were british, always protect your origin) but I don't think we should do the same for any other European nation... which is ironic considering britain would probably be the only ones decently capable of protecting themselves without american support.
>>76854254
>Sure, like what happened when eastern Europe was under Soviet control the first time, right?
It's not WW2. No one would see Russia as a savior anymore.
>>76854254
>Industrial power that would have to be built
Again, it's not WW2 anymore. Europes industry is basically decentralized and highly flexible. Modern CNC tools can reprogrammed in minutes and every little company could be producing parts for the war effort in no time.
>Euros also don't have the logistical capacity to deploy outside of their countries in large numbers.
Overseas. Inside of Europe it's no problem at all.
Or do you think we need American help to move tanks from Spain to Poland for example.
>>76848709
We would probably have fiewer nukes pointed at us for starters.
>>76853636
I don't think so the British are never beyond fixing, they are self rightous and arrogant, but never stupid.
>>76855181
cuck
>>76855081
Angela Merkel is a puppet of the US. No German head of state can act outside of parameters set entirely by the occupying US military.
It is not coincidence that the refugee flow originates from US terror campaigns in Libya and Syria, and traverses through US military stronghold Turkey, to end up in US military possession Germany.
It is a deliberate attack on the populations of Europe because the US military does not trust White Europeans to fight alongside nigger-spic Americans in service of the jew against White Russians.
The US is an African Communist terror state.
>>76855404
Your country is a joke and you are fat as shit
>>76855189
>It's not WW2. No one would see Russia as a savior anymore.
No one did after WW2 either. As soon as the Russians rolled through they starting raping and killing people. No partisan movement then.
>Again, it's not WW2 anymore. Europes industry is basically decentralized and highly flexible. Modern CNC tools can reprogrammed in minutes and every little company could be producing parts for the war effort in no time.
Ah, so you have no idea what you're talking about.
>Or do you think we need American help to move tanks from Spain to Poland for example.
Yes. In the numbers needed to counter the Russians in Poland, you would need American help.
>>76855247
What's that beer you guys brew in Plovdiv? Shit's tasty.
>>76852724
>Opening up the doors
You mean thousands of rapefugees charging the eupean borders and tearing those said doors down? They couldn't refuse them at that point and claim to be humanitarian.
>>76855375
That's an intelligent reply reginald
>>76855404
You should drop your proxy Vlad.
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>>76848709
>Europe
>socialist utopias
>>76855697
>american
>constantly talking about food
Ftfy
>>76848709
if this girl wasnt so gookie she would've successfully handed me my coke
>>76854729
>>76855181
It would depend on how much time you took to withdraw slowly over a decade and it would probably be fine, a year with no prior warning? The east would be absolutely fucked apart from the French and ourselves the rest of Europe would have no way to defend against such a steam roll.
>>76853899
shes a big girl
>>76855783
>>76855404
Angela merkel is a puppet of russia you fucking autist she practically worked for the shtasi and has been commended for being fluent in Russian
>>76855820
Whatever you say man, I've gotten drunk in all but three European countries, and Bulgaria had the best mass-market beer.
How's the beer landscape in Romania?
>>76855697
Which one exactly? Пиpинcкo?
>>76856093
>>76855794
>>76855794
Keep telling yourself that everyone who sees you for what you are is a Russian shill.
Paris, London, Detroit, Atlanta, Houston, Los Angeles, Birmingham, Chicago, Berlin, Palermo, Marseille, Brussels all speak for themselves.
So do St. Petersburg, Minsk, Bratislava, Talinn, Vilnus, Budapest.
The deeper you get in with the US, the worse your country gets. Americans need to nig up your country like they nig up their own families.
>Amerifats ITT trying to convince the yuros that their military presence is necessary everywhere because muh russky evil empire
>>76850445
No one told you to open your borders...
>>76855933
with big girl toes
>>76856157
Yeah your definitely giving off the proxy vibe there boris
>>76856365
sure thing shlomo
>>76856301
Another proxy they have been bad lately kek
>>76856448
>oy vey call them russian proxies that'll take the heat of we kikes!
>>76856432
I don't see where the gym thing is coming from boris do you know what a goyim is?
>>76856113
It was either Kamenitza or Zagorka. Good stuff.
>>76848709
Let's find out.
>>76856541
huh?
>>76856301
Ok there Ioseph.
>>76856616
It's all crumbling for him right now. Just laugh.
>>76856531
What exactly did I say that made you think I am a jew? That merkel is a Russian puppet?
>>76856616
Didn't think so
>>76848709
>What would happen if the US left nato and stopped defending europe?
Simply, Europeans will be forced to buy Russian gas at Russian rates. This will make Europe slightly less poor than it is. Nothing else would happen in the following 20-30 years.
>>76856319
I know, those Russians totally haven't been waging a low intensity land war in Ukraine, annexed Crimea, and invaded Georgia in the last decade. They've been sitting peacefully in their combloc apartmens shooting Krokodil into their dicks.
>>76856719
>>76856719
>JIDF forum sliding in effect
>>76856712
For whom kek your id's have been posting the same retarded shit this whole thread what the fuck are you on about m8 first time using a proxy?
>>76856870
Autism blatantly in effect kek
>>76856959
>>76856712
you can spot them a mile off
>>76848709
They would just go back to slaughtering eachother like they did with few interruptions for thousands of years, and we would sell them the weapons with which to do it.
Why do Yuros get so mad about us leaving NATO?
>>76856812
What's with the butthurt over Crimea? It's been a rightful territory of the Russian Empire since the late 1700s.
>>76857166
Sell weapons to all sides haha now that's jewish but profitable maybe that's we are where we are got some good lessons from the jews kek
>>76857221
Idk nato is worthless kek
>>76857353
Funny thing that the Russian Empire collapsed in 1917 then.
Tell me again you're not a proxy.
>>76857430
Why do you keep trying to slip "kek" into every post? Are you searching for credibility, kike?
>>76848866
i'd take being invaded by qt asians over disgusting Muslims any day, Hans
>>76849027
sadly this. leftists love to try to dictate what other people can and cannot do, both domestically and abroad. and right-wingers do the same, but with guns.
Only God Emperor Trump will leave you fuckers to your own devices
>>76857484
So the position of the super capitalist and totally conservative, definitely not Marxist United States is to recognize without condition the territorial integrity of the now-defunct USSR for eternity?
If the US and Canada had entered into a communist union, against their will in many respects, and Maine had been ceded to Canada as a "gift" [unconstitutionally at that], would Maine be Canada forever no matter the fate of the aforementioned hypothetical communist union?
>>76857612
Agreed asians are based and Japan and Korea are actually very good allies
>>76857353
When they took Crimea, the international community was pretty ok with it. The population is like 80-90% russian there anyway, so no one could argue it was an unreasonable action.
It's the Green Men operation in east Ukraine that people are mad about.
>>76857887
They are awful allies. They dump their shit products in our market, poison our children with junk pop media, and don't have to reciprocate militarily if we are the ones who are attacked.
Japan and Korea are cancer.
>>76857786
Why would I acknowledge the borders of one defunct political body over another? The Russian Federation never had control over Crimea until they annexed it.
>>76850445
fuck off, the real reason these Muslims choose to come is the following:
>free shit
>be able to rape hot blondes with impunity
>hyper PC, self loathing white liberals cater to their every need
they're not being pushed out of their native countries like the libs want you to believe, rather they're being pulled towards Europe because of the nice easy life over there.
>>76856553
Probably kamenitza since its produced in plovdiv.Its also the best one.
>>76856812
And you think meddling with those low energy ex-soviet countries is the same as waging war on europe?
Say whatever you want, but the yuros are perfectly able to defend themselves.
And even if it is a matter of who you want to fuck your ass, i think most would choose Russia over USA to be the sugardaddy.
>>76858020
Still playing the proxy huh?
>>76857991
Had the United States simply kept their word back from the first Bush administration -- that NATO would not expand and that Ukraine would be neutral territory, with the lone exception of Russia's military port at Sevastopol -- nothing would have ever happened.
Russia didn't even do anything when NATO was expanding. The US pushes its luck trying to seize Ossetian territory from Georgia and trying to overthrow the Ukrainian government to remove Russia from their Black Sea naval port, and suddenly Russia is the devil.
And anyone who notices State Department kikes running the whole failed op is a Russian shill. It's just kike bullshit after kike bullshit trying to create problems between nations and cultures that have much more in common with each other and should be at least cordial and professional with one another.
If America plays as an isolationist plenty of nations would fall into the Russian sphere of influence. I would say every nation up until germany-swiss-france borderline would be theirs de facto if not de jure.
Also you cant be a superpower without projecting power. So america would become a second player.
>>76858201
He's obviously a kike when he's trying to push anti-Russian sentiment here. Just ignore him.
ITT EVERYBODY IS A PROXY
source: BIDF
>>76848800
No. Asians work at Starbucks, mostly faggy hipsters and College girls work at coffee shops out here.
>>76855404
>white russians
when will this meme end?
they are not white, they do not resemble real people. i live in a country which borders to said country, and they are everything but white. everything they touch turn to shit, compare a suburb in norway, sweden, denmark, even hungary to a comparable suburb in russia, and you will find that there are vast differences.
you americans have no clue what youre talking about, it would be like me claiming that brazilians or mexicans are white, which they clearly are not. white isnt necessarily solely revolving around skin color, it is a measurement of a developed nation, a nation that has achieved things on a sociopolitical level, white is feeling safe, not being under peril at all times, white is maintenance, not dilapidation. look at your own cities, tell me you cannot guess the majority ethnic group based nearly wholly on the quality of maintenance paid to the buildings.
>>76858464
Your Implying that Russia didn't have its own agenda though I agree with everything else
>>76858718
We need to start expanding the definition because white countries are not white either
>>76858718
All you little cross countries are the same you always say no country is white but you.... it gets old after while when all your countries are irrelevant....
>>76859094
>....
You have to go back.
>>76858514
I doubt it we have a larger air force and navy than the rest of the world combined we have the best intelligence network in the world
>>76859256
I'm white bro just tired of insignificant countries thinking they are superior over us because we have a 63% white majority
Calm your tits
>>76849779
This fucking acting makes it impossible to watch. Seriously this is fucking twilight tier why must they include these reenactments.
>>76856812
The USA has waged more offensive ''peacekeeping'' wars, as russia did since the fall of the fall of the berlin war.
Russia isnt the big bad commie anymore.
>What would happen if the US left nato and stopped defending europe?
Did you mean fucking up africa to send niggers in europe while trying to start a proxy war with russia using east european states?
America doesn't protect anything but its interest, and has no problem killing people in the millions if that meant having 1 more drop of oil, fuck off americans, the entire world thinks you are a cancer.
>>76848709
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>>76856356
Shut the FUCK UP and STOP POSTING my waifu you fucking faggots
>>76848974
This
People really underestimate how big Trump is going to make our military.
>>76855933
She could take a rough dicking.
>>76860766
Yeah but they are happy to take american aid though aren't they?
>>76861025
heh... kid...
>>76853525
He was such a crypto Jew too. Family changed name, he went into the military, and he was a southerner. Blew my mind when I find out where he went after the Bush years. Chertoff can go fuck himself as well.
>>76849779
I'm Albanian and 20x whiter than that Serb. Lmao.
>>76854046
Thanks nigger, you opened the floodgates
>>76854046
Also thanks for watching our backs and shit :)
>>76862754
>>76862754
20 x 0 = 0
Good job shitskin
The euro cucks would stop importing sand niggers.
The only reason they've kept it up is because they know they can go cry to Uncle Sam when things get too hot
>>76864515
Astute observation
