>chick passes out
>keep fucking her
People do this?
>>76692834
he looks better with long hair
Drunk, horny people do this.
>>76692834
Yeah. Humans who lack self control are pieces of shit.
>not being able to control your emotions and behavior
>2016
>>76692834
Only a homosexual would stop fucking a woman just because she passes out.
It's time.
>>76692834
He didn't fuck her at all
>fingering
>fucking
why are people losing their shit about this?
>>76692834
I used to wake up to chicks sucking me off all the time, but we were doing a lot of drugs
>>76692834
>Get drunk
>Not be able to consent to sex
>Get drunk
>Be able to make the conscious decision to rape
Pick both?
>>76692974
Ree
>>76692974
my friend calls this dead fishing
Who cares.
Even if he does little time in jail his life is ruined.
Sure he will be rich but he will never live this down.
Two lives were ruined that night.
Drink responsibly kiddos
>girl and a guy are drunk
>girl and a guy leave a party to have sex
>guy gets 6 months prison time and the hordes of leftists think he deserved the death penalty
???
Ain't it funny how liberals want actual criminals to get off scot free, but then want to punish people where literally nothing happened
>>76692996
>>76693022
So youd be okay with a nigger fingering your daughter, cause its not fucking her, right?
>22 year old skank gets passed-out drunk at frat party
She's lucky it was only some thirsty white boi that fucked her. She should have had a pack of poz niggas run a train on her skeevy slit.
Protip: If you're old enough to buy beer legally, you're too old to be at a frat party.
>>76693246
>two lives were ruined
His and who's?
>>76692834
Now his sentence is 3 months
Are they just trying to fuck people off now?
>>76692974
>>76693246
>Drink responsibly kiddos
It doesn't have anything to do with alcohol. The guy was a retard. Most people don't rape when they get wasted.
>>76693371
?
My daughter wouldn't be going to a frat party because she knows she'd be getting beatings, and I am the only one allowed to finger her
>>76693405
/pol/
>>76693247
Because the story fit the narrative. Middle class, white male, preying on a woman.
Do they report on the black shootings? Rapes by blacks? None of this shit ever comes up in the news. But one white guy sticks his finger in a girls snatch, when they're both drunk off their shit (and he asked, and she said yet), and now his life is over?
It just bothers me that whenever something like this happens in the news, everyone runs to be the first person to post on social media how outraged they are. God forbid they ask, "hey did everything happen the way it was portrayed?"
>>76693247
There's a huffpsot article saying he pretty much blames it all on the "evil spirits, oh, I just had no control of myself after drinking" and ignores what caused the girl to go unconscious
Either way the fact her took her behind a dumpster and ran away when people found them means he's probably a little shit.
Both the mainstream right and left want a harsher penalty for similar reasons
>>76692963
This. You can tell who's a brainlet by their inability to not sperg out
Are there any pictures of her? I heard she was dressed like in a cardigan and a dress
>>76692974
heres your reply
>>76692974
>>76693247
>>76692834
What he did was reprehensible. Yet, I wonder if anyone here will have a memory of this when he jets out.
>>76693549
>"hey did everything happen the way it was portrayed?"
He was caught fingering her unconscious body behind a dumpster. There's nothing to question.
>>76693371
>le false equivalency may may
i'd be pissed if my daughter was in the same room as a nigger
still doesn't make fingering rape and this light weight cunt isnt my daughter
>>76693473
what's going on in this?
>>76692974
fucking gypsy mother of shit wasting my time
>>76692974
>>76693723
I figured youd say that. How about Chad Thundercock?
>>76692974
(You)
>>76692974
(you)
>>76692974
I ain't clicking that.
>>76692974
Nah it's called common decency.
>>76692974
You die retard.
Damn, /pol/ full of underage kids these days.
For example: this >>76692974 and people who replied to it.
>>76692834
What if you realize the chick you've been pounding has been unconscious for the last 25 seconds does that make you an accidental rapist?
>>76692974
Immunity cat has been looking out for me for almost 10 years, but I'd rather play it safe with this one
>>76693246
>Sure he will be rich but he will never live this down.
lol, get now gets to do worse by being a unemployed, sex offender, shut-in with access to lots of cash and time.
"Justice" isn't the only reason why people wanted him in prison longer.
>>76694213
You're just a newfag
>>76694213
B-but anon!?
>>76692834
He never fucked her. He fingered her after she consented. at some point she fell asleep, he went to puke and the swedes attacked him.
There's a million and one rape cases involving blacks or Muslims where the case is never even tried, but for some reason the media and left report this 24/7 like a drunk chick has never been finger blasted at a party. I wonder who can be behind this?
>>76692974
man fuck this
>>76692974
AH FUCK
>>76692974
>>76693473
>incredible things can happen
>stupid whores can take duck-lipped selfies
>"incredible things"
>>76693576
>Either way the fact her took her behind a dumpster and ran away when people found them means he's probably a little shit.
Or it means that he was drunk you fucking idiot
>>76692974
i agree,total faggot
>>76692974
I. Must. Reply.
>>76692974
>>76693723
If you got fingered while you were unconscious you'd be ok with it? Oh who am i kidding, you'd probably wake up and tell the guy to use his whole fist.
>>76692974
Guaranteed replies
>>76692974
guys why are we replying
>>76694463
he said degenerate didnt he.
>>76692974
I'm replying on principle here. This thread is shit.
>>76692974
pls
>>76693700
He didn't carry her there
Shes a drunk slut at a frat party
No physical harm occurred
The only thing pushing this is third wave "men at all rapists & women hold no responsibility for themselves" feminism
>>76692974
Hello there
>>76692974
I love you, Mom
>>76692974
If i respond to this will I get some reddit gold?
>B-b-but why can't I g-g-get a date?
>W-w-where are all the real m-m-men?
>Why won't a-a-anyone take control?
>I'm so lonely. ;_;
This is the only outcome if women keep fucking things up.
>>76692974
O H
S H I T
>>76694644
>The only thing pushing this is the fact that he sexually assaulted her passed out body.
ftfy.
>>76694219
He didn't stop when he noticed she was passed out. He stopped when two passersby yelled at him.
>>76692974
Senpai please
>>76694463
>Get drunk.
>Crash into and kill someone's dad.
>Use that excuse
Or
>do something illegal
> I was drunk
>I was high
>it wasn't me
Pro tip. It was
>>76692974
faggot
>>76692974
Fucking nigger
Why are men responsible for their actions when drunk, but women aren't?
>>76694800
>having sex
>someone starts yelling at you
Yeah, I'm sure you'd keep it right up, right faggot?
>>76692974
>>76692974
:^)
>>76692974
fuck you
>>76694810
Just like consent, right?
Riiiiiiiight?
>>76694759
>Two drunks having sex(fingering)
>One lays back and closes their eyes
>Falls asleep
>This is now rape and you deserve 20 years prison
kk
>>76692974
(You)
>>76694851
What the fuck are you talking about shithead?
>>76694541
How about don't put yourself in obviously bad situations ?
>>76692974
Go to hell
>>76692974
Fuck
>>76693405
his dad's
>my only son is a registered sex offender
>>76692974
have a (you)
>>76692974
nobody told me it was this easy to get (you)'s
>>76692974
Wow mane
>>76692834
>>76692974
You fucking faggot
>>76692974
Odd, I didn't think homosexuals fucked women at all?
>>76694644
>>76694881
>>76694644
What reason is there to believe thats what happened
>>76692974
Dick u
>>76692974
no mummy
>>76694903
The fact he stopped because two people started screaming at him isn't indicative of anything, asswipe. You'd do the same thing.
>>76692974
Damn you.
>>76694847
It's illegal for a drunk woman to have sex with a passed out man, too.
>>76692834
thank god went to college over a decade ago
I probably committed more than a dozen "2016" rapes
>>76694916
IN HELL
>>76692974
Go away bad dogger
>>76692974
Fuck
>>76694851
Butnhe never had sex with her.
>>76695004
the convicted felon said so and we should clearly trust him as he has no reason to lie.
Reminder to remove rapist-enabler Judge Aaron Persky:
https://www.change.org/p/california-state-house-recall-judge-aaron-persky
>>76692974
Fug
>>76692974
Responding again. Thread is still shit.
>>76692974
I've often thought about this scenario as well as fucking a girl that is actively fighting you. It all seems like just bad sex to me. I guess if it's your only option it might be fun, but even when your gf is playfully not letting you in, shit is a pain in the dick, and passed the fuck out girls? I feel bad fucking stoned drunk chicks that actually do remember.
ISHYGDDT
>>76692974
>>76692974
No not ma
>>76692974
This picture is becoming pure cancer.
Dubs get to kill it.
>>76692974
>:C
>>76695017
>The fact he stopped because two people started screaming at him isn't indicative of anything, asswipe.
yes it is. He knew what he was doing was wrong and ran away.
>You'd do the same thing.
no, this is something you'd do. I don't have to liquor women up and fuck them. I especially don't have to fuck the unconscious.
OP here
>>76694810
Have you ever driven drunk? It's fun as shit.
>>76695017
Or ask them to leave.
>>76692974
fuck you
>>76695140
>>76695224
>implying they don't like it
The only reason she called rape is because there was a group of people telling it was rape when she woke up. If she denies it they get pissed at HER. Hence the fact she NEVER DENIED giving consent.
>>76694213
You underestimate the powers of meme-magic
>>76694644
She had scrapes and bruises. That's physical harm
What was the demographics of the jury?
11 women and 1 black man?
>>76695272
Shes fucking pass out drunk you clown, everyone gets scrapes and bruises while drunk.
>>76695025
Didn't say anything about that. I said that women aren't held to the same standard as men in cases like this.
She was wasted, he was wasted. She consented, and he acted upon that consent. If her consent was invalid because she was wasted and her judgement was impaired, then why doesn't the same principle apply to Turner?
>>76695257
>The only reason she called rape is because there was a group of people telling it was rape when she woke up.
lol, she woke up in a hospital with dirt and pine needles in her vagina, because he put it there. She didn't remember the sexual encounter because she was unconscious.
If you think this is an acceptable way to have consensual sex with a woman, I suggest never having sex or you're going to rape someone and go to prison.
The white-knight virgin ITT is strong.
>>76692974
fuck (you)
>>76692974
check em
>>76692974
the truth hurts
>>76692974
why u do this
>>76695398
What's your point? Did he force her to drink, too? She put HERSELF in the hospital. Stop with the emotional appeals.
>>76695233
Sure. I just think it doesn't negate responsibility
>>76692974
Re-rolling.
>>76695388
>>76695388
Genuinely curious. Were there any witnesses to the consent? Did she admit to it?
Just personally, I still wouldn't fuck someone passed out
>>76692974
Oh god not again
>>76695224
You're a mind reader know? He might have thought they were gonna rob him. Who rides they're bike after midnight around college anyway? the black kid that killed the freshmen girl at UT Austin was also riding a bike after dark FYI
>>76692974
wow fuck you
"When the policeman arrived and interviewed the evil Swede who tackled you, he was crying so hard he couldn't speak because of what he'd seen."
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2854755/Victimstatement.pdf
When dudes finger girls, is it mostly penetration or rubbing?
>>76695521
Or consent, right?
>inb4 there's a difference
>>76692974
>>76692974
What a dick.
>>76695548
>Who rides they're bike after midnight around college anyway?
spoken like an uneducated nigger.
>>76695224
>yes it is. He knew what he was doing was wrong and ran away.
If two people caught you doing anything while drunk, and started attacking you/screaming at you, you would run away too.
>>76695398
>Woman is drunk and can't remember
>This means it was rape and the equally drunk man deserves prison
Was she a virgin before this? No
Did she willingly go to a frat party and get drunk? Yes
Did she willingly leave the party with this guy? Yes
Would this be considered rape more than 20 years ago? No way in fucking hell
>>76695210
I said dubs.
>>76695508
>Did he force her to drink, too? She put HERSELF in the hospital.
You can't sexually assault or rape yourself. Her actions, like drinking, are not sexual assault.
The sexual assault or rape was his action to take. This is why your argument and victim blaming is shit.
>>76695541
No, but he said that she did. His statement was just as valid as hers, they're both equally as likely to lie.
>>76692974
Fag
>>76695541
She claimed not remembering anything. The boy claimed he asked to finger her and she said yes, then asked her if she wanted to go back to the dorm and she said yes. Also he asked her sister if she was ok and the sister said she was fine.
The "victim" also left a drunken voicemail on her boyfriends phone about how horny she was.
>>76695597
>>76695673
>started attacking you/screaming at you
>they claim they went over to him and tried talking to him.
how's that paranoid schizophrenia treating you?
>>76695693
>Drink herself into the hospital.
>Try and use that as an emotional appeal to sway an argument.
>Get called on it.
>'VICTIM BLAMING!'
Uh huh. Is your hair pink or purple, btw?
>>76692974
MOMMA
>>76695682
Ok trips then
>>76692974
fuck niggers got scammed by a dirty ghetoo nigger today i was so fucking stupid to fall for his jewish banking tricks, this is why we need the second amendment so i can hunt this scamming robber nigger down
>>76695388
>If her consent was invalid because she was wasted
Her consent was invalid because she was unconscious.
The being wasted had fuck all to do with the rape charges.
Why you are unconscious when you are raped has no bearing on the fact a rape occurred.
>>76695548
>He might have thought they were gonna rob him.
lol, two Swedes on bicycles yelling "Hey! Stop it!" while he's jacking off and stuffing dirt and pine needles into a passed out girl's vagina? He thought he was being robbed? Nigger, are you serious?
>>76695597
You've never had a dude finger your vagina?
>>76692974
Here is your reply.
>>76695730
Okay, so throw out both their testimony
Two eye witnesses still caught him knuckle deep while she was passed out
>>76692974
bazinga
>>76692974
You
>>76695730
Well, the woman was blackout drunk so she has no idea what she said.
>>76695817
I wouldn't believe any statement by 2 fucking cucks trying to put a man in prison for this shit
Would you run from 2 retards yelling at you in the dark, while you are drunk?
Probably
>>76695954
She left a party alone with a man
That alone makes it ~not rape~
>>76695954
So they caught two people have sex, huh? I wonder if that's happened before? Like, some girl getting fingered on camera and giving consent then later crying rape. Surely THAT'S never happened, right? Right?
>>76692974
Thanks a lot you nigger. There, you happy now? I love my mammy.
>Droves of women get a slap on the wrist for being pederasts
>Only received with "Noice"
>One white dude fingers a chick after consenting but before getting to his room like a retard
>RAPE CULTURE HANG HIM HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK I AM LITERALLY CANT EVENING RIGHT NOW CIS SCUM
Take that you fucking dumb feminists, isn't so great being on the receiving end of the shit stick for once, is it?
Anyone else also see how hard they're trying to push that the two dudes are Swedish as if this action forgives their entire country? As if it just slides the fact that they actively censor and deny that their women are raped brutally daily?
>>76695942
I'm a 30 year old virgin, dude. Everything I know about sex is from porn
>>76694964
I'd appreciate it if you didn't post pictures of my on doxchan.
>>76695892
>he's jacking off and stuffing dirt and pine needles into a passed out girl's vagina
Things that never happened.
>>76695673
>If two people caught you doing anything while drunk, and started attacking you/screaming at you, you would run away too.
lol, how often does this happen to you? It's never happened to me. . .
>Was she a virgin before this? No
are you a kebab? Serious question.
You realize you can rape a non-virgin, right? You realize that nothing you said negates his actions, right?
>>76696065
>Would you run from 2 retards yelling at you in the dark, while you are drunk?
not if i was fucking a chick, no. i'd keep fucking her. then again, i wouldnt be raping someone so i guess that might be reason to run.
>>76696178
>negates his actions
You mean sex?
>>76692974
proudly derailing this thread.
>>76692974
n b
>>76692974
fug
>>76696065
>she left a party with a man alone
>she explicitly agreed to have sex
based on the testimony, for all we know she was leaving the party to get away from him, and he followed her
>>76696125
im sorry. it really depends on the girls.
I've had GFs jack me off/sucking me when waking up.
Have I been raped and violated?
Fuck no.
>>76695892
You realize he was drunk, don't you? He might have thought it was the girls boyfriend and he was gonna get his ass beat. Or like I said before he might have thought they were gonna rape and kill him just like the midnight bicyle rider in Texas did to that Asian qt.
Also she wasn't unconscious, in her own statement she said how she was patting him in the back like saying good job
>>76696083
Consent ends with unconsciousness, m8.
You fuck someone after they passed out and you raped them, even if they said shit was okay before they passed out.
This is textbook shit. You must have consent through the entirety of a sex act. That's why if someone says stop and you don't, it's fucking rape.
>>76693726
Apparently they aren't wearing bras. I don't understand women.
>>76696125
Sex is overrated. Staying a virgin is the smart move.
>>76695831
Her drinking herself into the hospital has nothing to do with his choice to stick his fingers in her vagina.
If you try that with an unconscious woman, you will go to jail. It is illegal.
You are proving feminists wrong here. You really can't "teach men not to rape". You just don't understand.
>>76696267
Legally, yes, yes you have.
>>76692974
fuck you
>>76694750
What in the fuckery did I just watch???
>>76695693
He was also drunk....
>hurr durr she could not make concious decisions, but he could!!
If she said 'yes' when asked if she can be fingered, then he did nothing wrong.
You are expecting a drunk as shit dude to realize that the girl he fingered passed out, drunk.
Either way, there was not enough evidence to give him a longer sentence.
If you drink at a party, you are putting yourself in a risky situation, knowingly.
Every retard knows how alcohol Affects you.
Also
>victim blaming
Go back to Tumblr
>>76692974
Fuk you
>>76692974
>>76696320
>Her drinking herself into the hospital has nothing to do with his choice to stick his fingers in her vagina.
You mean other than her agreeing to it?
>>76696287
>Consent ends with unconsciousness, m8.
You do realize many couples wake each other up with sex, right? Is that rape, too, dumbass?
>Virgins detected.
>>76696268
>she wasn't unconscious
her statement, the two eye witnesses, and emergency services would seem to disagree with you.
>>76696340
OH NO!
HELP ME!
PTSD!
Yeah, no. Fuck those laws, and they really need to be changed.
>76692834
>chick passes out
>stop fucking her
People do this?
>>76692974
pls no
>>76692974
Fuck you
>>76696406
She also "doesn't rememeber" leaving the party with him, walking around, and talking with multiple people who let her leave.
>>76692974
love you mom
you can thank me later
>>76692974
(You)
>>76696466
non degenerates do, yes.
>>76692974
(You)
>>76692974
fuck u man
>>76696406
Learn how to read then go read her statment again. She might have been passed out when EMS got there but that doesn't mean she was passed out when she was getting fingered.
>>76696514
thats why we have to rely on the witnesses and emergency services, who all say she was unconscious.
>>76696403
>You do realize many couples wake each other up with sex, right? Is that rape, too, dumbass?
Yes. Yes it is.
Barring weird situations involving sleep talking.
There aren't exceptions for spouses or the unconscious in rape law for obvious reasons.
>>76696462
See above for why you can't.
>>76696287
>Consent ends with unconsciousness, m8.
No it doesn't, fucking clown
they were both pass out drunk, she obviously consented by going there with him, nothing developed after she passed out only more of what she already consented to
It doesn't even make any sense.
Maybe the emergency services should have been charged with rape too for moving her?
>>76694345
I started frequenting 4chan since 2006 though I found it a year before
.>>76695260
Memes are just stupid internet shit that kids think it's funny.
>>76696021
Exactly, she's saying she doesn't remember what she said. Look at the facts; she was down to fuck, they were both wasted, she willingly went with him. Everything Turner said was possible, and there's no reason to believe that he was lying.
>>76695954
>>76695881
There's the possibility that she consented before passing out. Turner was blasted, it's not impossible that he didn't realize what he was doing.
No reason to believe either story. They both have reasons to lie, and the real truth is probably a mixture of both stories.
The fact of the matter is the entire case was a grey area. All of it. There wasn't a clear indication of crime at all. The circumstances, AT BEST, demonstrate two drunk people having sex in public. There is no actual evidence of rape besides public outrage.
And it shouldn't have gotten that far. But the justice system has been perverted so much you have to PROVE YOURSELF INNOCENT because of cocksucking WHITE KNIGHTS.
And that's the fucking problem.
>>76696608
>Learn how to read then go read her statment again
show me. i'll wait...
>>76692834
I was walking home from work around 12:00am and a drunk mexican girl obviously from the bar nearby asking me for a cig, it quickly escalated to her insisting on fondling my balls and then sucking my dick and taking it up the ass in front of a stranger's doorsteps. I was 17 at the time and she was 25, so I'm wondering if I raped her or she raped me.
>>76692974
>>76696634
>it's not impossible that he didn't realize what he was doing.
ignorance is not an excuse for committing a crime.
>>76696632
>going to a black neighborhood
>literally consenting to getting robbed
>>76696628
>Yes. Yes it is.
LOL No it isn't. Post the results of your bar.
>Barring weird situations involving sleep talking.
Just like with people walking and talking while blackout drunk right? Right? lol Dumbass.
>>76692974
goddammit
>>76696632
>they were both pass out drunk
He wasn't pass out drunk.
>>76696268
>Or like I said before he might have thought they were gonna rape and kill him just like the midnight bicyle rider in Texas did to that Asian qt.
It was literally two Swedes on bicycles, he ran because he was caught.
>>76692974
Nice meme
>>76696141
Have you read the news articles?
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/what-makes-the-stanford-rape-case-so-unusual/486374/
>“She was a quote-unquote good witness who went through all the indignities and humiliations of reliving the tragedy of it [in a courtroom]—her naked, splayed body covered in dirt; pine needles in her vagina—to make sure this perpetrator was never able to do this again, hopefully. She went through the trial and got questioned by the defense attorney. The jury listened to her, and believed her, and found her [attacker] guilty beyond a reasonable doubt on three felonies. So we were there. This was supposed to be it: the moment where we get consequence.”
Here's one. I don't know why you're defending this "Casanova".
>>76692834
>mfw the amazing atheist makes a video saying yes he did brutally rape her behind a dumpster and no he shouldn't get more than 6 months
How can this fat autistic retards gut reaction to anything not be totally fucking wrong every single god damn time
And all those atheist commenters who agree with them
Holy fuck
I hate women but these stupid fucking virgin asspie internet atheists are total moronic psychopath retards and are giving even me a fucking bad name, how the fuck are kids this fucking fucked in the head, THEY ALL THINK ITS FINE BECAUSE EUROPE HAS NO CRIME AND LOW SENTENCES. BECAUSE CORRELATION EQUALS CAUSATION
GUESS WHAT YOU FUCKING ASSPAINED VIRGINS, EUROPE HAS NIGGERS TOO, but you hate women to God damn much to see it huh?
Holy fucking shit the human race is done
>>76692834
Someone enlighten me.
Why is this case special? There are worse rapes with worse outcomes at least once a week.
Why does everyone give so much of a fuck about a guy fingering a drunk?
>>76696633
2006 with 2005 discovery here
mah nigga
what a trip its been, no?
>>76692974
BAZINGA
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>>76696634
>There's the possibility that she consented before passing out.
Does not fucking matter. You must have consent through the completion of the act.
Someone has the right to back out of already initiated sex and to protect that right the law has mandated consent through the act which requires consciousness.
Because the unconscious can't consent.
>>76696222
yes, "sex" is an action.
>>76696733
He probably had more to drink than her, is it a crime that he can handle his alcohol better?
>>76696722
>Using the term, "Ignorantia juris non excusat," incorrectly.
I love armchair lawyers.
>>76692974
Black guys have the fattest cocks on earth.
>>76696819
Then there isn't a problem.
>quotations
>tfw fat girl tried to rape you and you should have just let it happen
>>76692974
o shit
>>76692974
Jokes on you my mom's already dead
>>76692974
god damnit
>>76692974
fuck you
>>76696820
>He probably had more to drink than her
i believe she had 3 times the legal limit while he had twice. this was of course hours later when they tested them.
>>76696765
He wasn't jacking off. He didn't stuff dirt and pine needles in her vagina.
>>76692974
Include me in the screen cap I don't understand why we're replying
>>76696779
the media and academia have finally found their "great white perp"
>>76692974
faggot
>>76692974
>Only a homosexual would stop fucking a woman just because she passes out.
atop
>>76696779
Because it's a rich white male athlete at a prestigious university. It's the Duke lacrosse all over again but they won this time, but won't be happy until the mandatory minimum sentence for attempted sexual assault is the death penalty (if you're white).
>>76696776
*no niggers
But not for long apparently because all the nu males are diversity loving virgin misogynist agnostic retards
>It's rape without actual evidence of rape!
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Another reason to avoid women. People always make fun of me when I say I'm not interested but I'm not going to jail. Fuck that.
>>76696800
It'll always be good as long as you still have the hyper brain of a teenager.
