I think that the communism is the best economic system.
Try to debate me whit out holodomor's shit
;)
Stupid rednecks
>>76683311
So just move to Venezuela it's right next to your shithole
>>76683378
Haha,Do you really believe all that american propaganda?
>>76683378
this...
I will join you leaf
Give me the maple Waitress.
>>76683542
Yes. You clearly still haven't moved.
>>76683542
NUH UH VENEZUALA ES 10/10 FIRST WORLD COUNTRY!!!!
PERFECT MEDIC CARE
DELETE THIS FUCKIN CAPITALIST SHILLS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
VOYNA NARODNAYA
>>76683591
>haven't moved
No, i hate to change the things in my country, before i move to others.
This is my fight against countries like yours that explodes our people.
>>76683378
FPBP
>>76683311
I'm literally terrified of communism. I think of Europe under the soviets and dread to think of it taking root again.
Which it has.
>>76683740
Communism is a total failure and you're just a retarded 3rd worlder that doesn't know shit about building civilization. You are worth less than the materials that you are made of.
>>76683740
4chan
Exploding yellow vans and columbians
>>76683740
but we send aid to you niggers
rare commie in Lithuania.
>>76683740
sorry for my bad english
i have to change**
:)
>>76683542
I know both cuban and venezuelan people, they both hate communism
>>76683659
Plus, look at how crappy Brazil is now. Isn't like 75% of the government under investigation for corruption now?
>>76683311
power to people, peoples supremacy over Marxism.
>>76683962
>isn't like 75% of the government under investigation for corruption now
First, the people that are investigating Dilma are opponents to his good government.
>>76683740
"Our people"
Kek
You think you're people.
>>76683311
>stupid rednecks
You're speaking to the proletariat filthy bourgeois Marxist, WORKERS over INTELLECTUALS!
>>76684016
>Nazism
>American
Are u stupid?
>>76683311
>communism is best
>"don't try and debate me with popular fantasy character :^)"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4
here you go little boy. This is all you need to know of communism. You can look into the october revolution afterwards.
>>76683311
how will communism be enforced? Will people use violence to force others to work for their benefit? If so how is that different or better than slavery?
>>76684133
>democracy
>not greek
are u stupid?
>>76683311
I don't want to debate you. I just want to point and laugh at you while I enjoy my air conditioning.
>>76684091
>his
>>76684199
i didnt meant that.
The nazism isnt going with the americans because half of they are jews
also, "they destroy the nazism" didnt they said that?
>>76684189
By people working together. People can run the factories and farms themselves with the state. Communes, syndicates and co-ops work fine already. Capitalism pits humans against each other to fight over scraps, but it need not be that we.
Everything good that happened in from 1917 to the 60s would have still happened if it was referred to as a brutal dictatorship (as it was) instead of calling it communism. After kruschev, it was all down hill for them as they tried to make communism real
South America needs to be nuked.
>>76684352
The power structure of America is owned by Jews, Jews said that, Americans going against national socialist Germany is ahistorical.
>>76684182
>American Propanda
He thinks he is debating me
>>76684091
I mean the entire government, including the opposition.
>>76683311
You piece of shit are a fucking disgrace I hope you communist pieces of shit get fucking executed once and for all... the leaf is right just fucking go to Venezuela if you like communism so much you retarded thieving asshole
>>76683378
/thread
>>76684189
how is this different from capitalism?
>>76684435
that's voluntary, I'm saying what would you and your group do if one person didn't do their job but still wanted all the free hand outs?
>>76684523
>Jaja, Mira, te voy a hablar en español por que se nota que no se te da el ingles muy bien, Uribista Ignorante.
Seguro tus principales argumentos contra el comunismo son la violencia que este supuestamente ejerce, pero acaso estas
siendo coherente, basandose en la sarta de insultos que sueltas? Idiota de mierda.
:)
Suerte, cerdo fascista.
>>76683378
>why are we so shit?
>continues shitty paths
>imperialists live so good
>lets do the opposite of what they are doing
>japan adopts imperialism
>rich 1st world country
>>76684523
Good job fighting those communist, now take more of our money so we can prop up your dicatorship.
Here in Colombia theres protest against the neo liberalism, and from the ashes of the oppresing capitalism the communism will surge, for a better today and a better tomorrow
>>76683378
Nice strawman
Also, Chavez made quite a few improvements between 2003-07.
>>76683311
>Stupid rednecks
These are the same people who act like the vanguard of the working class.
>>76683785
>it has
ebin
>>76684701
Para porfavor, no te humilles mas.
>>76684890
redneck is a person that continues go with the government that give them what they tink they want.
They dont think in the other people.
The working class is the call that works for a common good.
>>76684751
>capitalists wont get hanged with commies
fascist nations of latin America will soon form a coalition to destroy the global capitalists of the usa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuFdYJa7DNc
>>76684870
I don't think you know what strawmanning is.
>>76683542
>Be me
>Dad flies for Delta
>He goes to Caracas
>Always talks about what a festering shithole it is
>>76683927
Only the lazy faggots who hate to work
>>76684870
Too bad his successor was super incompetent.
>>76685108
Always talks about what a festering shithole it is
Your dad its an ignorant.
He doesnt know that the dollar is killing venezuela, and its an economic war against this poor country
>>76684652
In traditional communes like kibbutzim, people like that just get shunned or don't get trusted.
>>76684701
Socialism is force... capitalism is voluntary interaction... and you are just a slogan spewing fuck you're just and envy filled loser who likes to steal from other people y despise uribe just a little less than I despise fucking useless parasites as you
>>76685191
>the dollar is killing venezuela
Is that why there's garbage everywhere?
>>76683311
>Comunism is da best
>I have no arguments, I just insult u xD
I really love how every "muh communism" shill has never lived in an actual commie country.
>>76683311
>flag
>communism
>cocaine
pls
>>76685180
Yes, that's true. Maduro is a total moron.
>>76684997
Now you're just adding your own definitions to already existing words and acting like they've now become universally adopted. Typical commie delusion.
>>76684751
JUST PINOCHET MY SHIT UP
>>76685256
>El Capitalismo es un acuerdo común
Dile eso a los niños muertos de desnutricion en la guajira
Dile eso a los campesinos desplazados gracias a las AUC
Dile eso a las personas con problemas graves debido a la explotacion minera que traen los gringos hacia colombia
:D
>>76685269
Tell us about it Argentina bro. You just recently escaped it's icy grips yourself
>>76685269
Nice meme. Millions of former Soviets and Yugoslavs miss the old days.
>>76684652
Well, he likely wouldn't get those hand outs. The principle of communism is "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need".
But it is worth saying that under communism, a lot of jobs would be automated or abolished, and with everyone working in some way, the working week would vastly drop, for everyone. Eventually reaching post scarcity.
>>76683311
>>76685191
A communist failed state blaming an external enemy... stop the fucking presses
>>76685444
>capitlalism magically made all the production disappear because capitalists like making no money
>magically all the houses disappeared in capitalism
>>76683311
if true communism was never tried before how can you guarantee that the system won't kill millions of people as a result of its implementation?
>>76685649
>never tried before
Communism has been tried before, dont you see the ussr?
:)
>>76685649
faith, you have faith that the all powerful government will one day dissolve.
>>76685649
Capitalism has killed hundreds of millions of people and yet we've had it for 500 years.
>>76685745
Tell me more of when soviet citizens could go to commissar house and eat his food.
>>76683311
I would but I'm to busy fuckin up these commas nigga
>>76685796
Ideology of pleasure has killed trillions, I win.
>>76685531
>>76684112
Fucking underrated
>>76685617
Hey op,
Is there any sizable socialist/communist movement in your country apart from FARC?
Also are you part of FARC, or supportive of them?
Even as someone that is a strong believer in socialism and understands that conflict is almost always necessary, i always find it hard to accept that kidnapping locals is considered a legitimate way to obtain support and funds...
>>76685745
No I understand that, but every time you tell them the system that they're advocating for has been used to wipe out millions of people they completely deny it and say that real communism was never tried before, but I am asking how can they guarantee that the system they're advocating for won't fail solely because it was never tried before
>>76685402
Yes motherfucker and decapitalizing the country and inflating the currency is gonna magically fix everything so you can have everything in life without having to do shit grow up you stupid fuck and stop recruiting retards into your sorry ass cult
>>76683311
That's edgy m80
Actual communism is impossible because a stateless world is no longer possible. Centrally planned socialism is incredibily inefficient in terms of perpetual economic growth and dealing with daily needs. However it is incredibly efficient when dealing with singular objectives such as industralization.
Capitalism is great at perpetual growth and the daily stuff, however as is it has no mechanicism to increase the pace of new technology being implemented without harming many national buisnesses.
To me the most efficient system is the fascist corporartist system. The fascist economy uses syndicatws (think of an advanced form of medieval guilds which have bcome nationalized.)
In the corporatist system, only the bare minimum amount of regulation is needed because the buisness owners and workers come to an agreement on what is bare minimum in a voluntary manner, with the state as the peace keeper and enforcer.
Through the syndicates, large scale policies (such as industralization and automation) can be enacted very easily, perpetual growth and regular capitalist efficiency is also maintained. Fascism is The union of central planning and capitalism, inside the body of the State.
>>76686191
Dios mio...
Eres demasiado ignorante, mejor callate.
>>76683311
INTO THE TRASH.
SAGE
>>76685796
so you're saying that you're willing to risk being starved, frozen or dehydrated to death just to try out this new cool system they've propaganding in your local college?
>>76683311
>>>76685617
>
>Hey op,
>
>Is there any sizable socialist/communist movement in your country apart from FARC?
Yes the "Polo democrático" they are the political faction of the FARC and deserve death just as much
>Also are you part of FARC, or supportive of them?
Of course not I am not a fucjing Marxist piece of shit criminal and not only am I not supportive y wish to see them fucking hang
>Even as someone that is a strong believer in socialism...
Go die in a fucking fire
>and understands that conflict is almost always necessary, i always find it hard to accept that kidnapping locals is considered a legitimate way to obtain support and funds...
The FARC was always weak on the ideological side they are just a bunch of assholes who took the banner of communism as an excuse to rob people and smuggle drugs...
>>76686424
So if I disagree with you I am ignorant
go fuck yourself piece of shit communist go starve with the Venezuelans you useless parasite
>>76683311
I don't know about communism, but I most certainly will RESPECT THE ROBOT
>>76688535
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmGZEj9f1_s
RESPECT THE ROBOT
>>76683311
Why do brown people love collectivism?
Have you faggots figured out that it doesn't work?
M8 i lived the communism in chile.
Shit was fuck up . You don't want to be in a line half of the day for piece of bread
>>76686384
Wait isn't that basically what we have now in america?
>communism
worked for the native americans
>socialism
public unions are doing great, aren't they? No wait public unions are awful. Why would you give anyone with a salary the assurance of taxpayer money to fund their jobs no matter how shit they do them?
>capitalism
Too bad it produces great products and a high standard of living. It seems that government policy on limits the possibilities here.
>Libertarian
who build the roads hurr
>conservatism
Small, effective, local government that is focused on financial security and maintaining public service.
Why is conservatism bad again?
>bernie give everyone everything
because the national debt isn't big enough yet
The fact is that despite whatever you believe in, right now most western governments are content to fund taxpayers with their own money and increase their debts via banks to pay for the most irresponsible among us, forever.
Literally you get rewarded the most for doing everything wrong.
>>76683378
If you hate communism move to Somalia
>>76683659
Sure bud
>>76690411
if you hate liberalism move out of leafistan
>>76683870
Stfu retard
>>76683888
Blowing them up isnt aid
>>76684870
After he seized all corps and stole their money, so he didn't make improvements, he just seized a bunch of corps and when the money ran out and they couldn't maintain them ran them to the ground. You're a liar.
>>76685191
The dollar is killing Venezuela, right estupido, it wasn't chavez seizing major corportations and running them to the ground and bus driver president now is doing even worse than Chavez. Eat a bag of dicks idiot.
>>76690891
>i-it's americas fault!
>i-it's the dollar!
>i-it's not our government failing at the most basic level!
okay amerifat
do it with me
reach for the mango for a dollar a pound, put it in your basket
there, that wasn't hard was it?
Too bad they've got to use rocks to get them down from the trees in commiezula
>>76690497
If we wanted to blow up the middle east, it'd be removed from the map you fucking idiot
>>76691453
>implying that any nation could instigate that type of conflict in this age
geez anon this isn't the 1800s anymore!
>>76687453
>So if I disagree with you I am ignorant
No. You got BTFO and are ignorant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHSc6EqKfmI
Besides memes I was watching this lecture on why comunism/socialism fail.
I'm sure OP is just baiting, nobody here's is pro maduro unless he's literally a brainwashed leftist retard.
I'm glad they're just seen as smoke pot crackheads in public universities wearing che shirts while doing graffiti and putting fire to taxis.
>>76683311
Communism....get the fuck out of here.
you must be either very brave or very stupid to tout your admiration of socialism.I am guessing stupid.
Go bask in your autismo fantasy in North Korea.
Why did Greece's progression towards communism from the 1980's to the present fail?
>>76683891
Ugh get a hold of this
Communist parties have been slowly dying but the toxic ideas got into the new generation's stupid heads so now we have red sleeper cells. Spasiba putinu za eto because I know who finances the indoctrination.
>>76683311
>>76685269
I have a serious question argentina, can i come live there? is it safe for a white person? I can learn your dialect and become argentinian i dont want to be an american anymore.
