Can pol explain the argument that cuba, N.Korea, URRS, china and venezuela were never comunists countries.
I don't get it, what's missing from comunist russia to be comunist?
>>76670943
It didn't work out, therefore it wasn't communism.
Communism would have worked.
>>76670943
Communism is literally utopia, a stateless society where everyone is equal and lives in abundance.
The final aim of communists.
All those states were socialist, and according to commies socialism is the means to communism.
So yeah technically they weren't communist, and communist state is an oxymoron.
Commies though generally use it in the sense of ''my perfect socialism was never tried''.
>>76670943
who's argument is that?
>>76670943
It's just what they say when communism happens and millions of people die.
>>76670943
True Marxist Communism requires the means of production to be at a point and arranged in such a way that no one person has more or less social obligations and acts to carry out as others towards the production of shared capital. Marx straight up admitted the need of capitalism ( well a form of it) guided towards the goal of bettering the community to standard of well being shared between everyone.
>>76671748
> ITT shit that Marx never said
>>76671748
I know the theory, blah blah blah muh comunal means of production.
I wanted to ask:
How do you pass from socialism to comunism without ending in totalitarianism?
>>76671187
That's fucking retarded.
They were statist and had a centrally planned economy, no socialism there. There was no democratic or even mob rule control by the workers; it was all government owned.
>>76671931
>>76671931
Everyone just agrees to not be a dick.
>>76671931
Post scarcity
>>76672201
how do you stop corrupt officials then?
>>76672244
That's not possible.
>>76670943
In communism there's not such things as borders like we have today. So if Venezuela or USSR or Cuba were communist then why they have borders like capitalist countries?
They were/are socialist and you can only achieve communism when the whole world is ready to be communist AKA an utopia.
>>76672347
>corrupt officials
I may be playing with semantics but nevertheless, if they are "corrupt" be definition then in my eyes they must be removed from office as they are untrustworthy and have committed a crime.
Some would fire the official, others would execute them.
>>76672347
To prevent it, unfortunately >>76672201
Pick the right people.
The people do not serve the King, the King reflects and serves the people.
>>76672347
Im not sure if I agree with you or not.
