/pol/ why is this Russia?
>>76563936
I think its just russian territory that who ever lives there never declared independence from
>>76563936
Because fuck you. That's why.
>>76563936
the real question is, why isnt belarus, poland, lithuania, latvia and estonia russia...
>>76564007
That's why I'm so perplexed
Why is this little isolated pocket still Russia if all the other Soviet Republics broke off?
>tfw no ebin grossprussiums
>>76564124
because slavs moved a bunch of there people into that area, forcing aryans to move out.
>>76564067
DELETE THIS
It's actually Konigsberg - ie the city of Kings, capital of Prussia etc.
But don't tell Germans.
>>76564261
Literally and unironically rightful German clay I feel a bit triggered
>>76563936
It's because the Soviets wanted a loyal power-base in the Southern Baltic Sea. So they massacred all the Germans, Poles, and Lithuanians there and repopulated with Russians.
>>76564067
The Russian empire never owned konigsberg. They acquired it after WW2.
>>76564007
Because Belarus, Poland, Lithuania, and Western Ukraine are historically the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth. The destruction of the Commonwealth and its carving up by the Russians and Germans, the subsequent events of the 19th century, along with ethnic cleansing by the Soviets and Nazis, have altered the demographics of the region.
>>76564124
Because it was part of the Russian SFSR, itself a Union Member. Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Ukraine etc. were all constituent union members which is why they were able to secede and other regions that might've wanted it just as bad if not more (e.g. Chechnya) couldn't and didn't.
>>76564007
>>76564007
All cyan lands here are rightful Russian Land.
Slavs never historically lived in the baltic countries or East Prussia.
Because it was populated by ethnic Germans. Thus, when the Germans were kicked out, it was "no one's land", unlike the areas populated by ethnic Poles / Lithuanians / Latvians / Estonians - so Russia took it.
>>76564364
Or Lithuania.
>>76563936
Because no one else wants it, or cares enough to ask for it.
>>76565204
Trump will Anschluss it
>>76565312
Make Prussia Great Again
>>76563936
because it wasnt part of any slavic country.
it is part of prussia.
since germany doesnt claim it, no one does.
>>76563936
Because no one fucks with the guy with nukes.
>>76565514
it was for more that 200 years
I mean seriously, russia is a decaying, poverty-stricken, corruption-ridden shithole ruled by a tinpot petty tyrant and populated by shit-tier illiterate slavic peasants with no teeth or deodorant.
But because they have a huge pile of antiqauted rusting nuclear missiles in their backyard. No one ever EVER fucks with them.
That should be a lesson to all you non-nuke cuck counties.
>>76564391
They did own it at one point though.
Russia > USA.
But do not fret, Superpower Number 2, we still like you.
>>76564007
why isn't Poland Germany?
>>76563936
Because the germans lost
the cucks don't want it back yet everyone on /pol gets triggered that its not german when they're not even german lol
>>76564791
>implying that Rus = Russia
great meme
During the german reunification the topic of Königsberg was brought up. Some high Russians wanted to sell it back. Kohl declined. Nd why not? There's only russians and it is in ruins.
>>76565909
not really.
prussia was a state until 1945.
on paper at least.
it was nder geman control until 44 i think.
>>76563936
Because Soviets occupied it after WWII and with Allies torn away Prussia from Germany.
>>76564007
Because they are sovereign nation-states.
>>76564067
Russia doesn't need Asian territories with Asian hordes. Russia need to develop land it has, tackle corruption, illegal immigration, brain drain, lack of industry and crime.
>>76564364
They're safe guarding it against Merkel.
>/pol/ will never claim Königsberg as a white ancestral homeland
>>76563936
jews
>>76568531
>tfw when Königsberg IS my ancestral homeland
>>76568703
Take it back Otto
Trump is with you
>>76563936
It's a super poor region, pretty much dedicated to keeping russian baltic navy afloat. Source of cheap petrol and cigarettes. There are some urban legends about the russian mob trafficking shit.
I lived most of my life in a town 2 kilometres away from a border crossing.
>>76566082
because they are fighting to keep you muslims out
>>76564007
Because winter ports
>>76568703
>mfw russian heritage but 4 generations of my family lived in what is now Poland
>>76563936
>>76564261
Also don't tell Americans and Anglo's. It was Winston "i hate people and white diaspora" Churchill bright idea
I think it is a territory that remained a "rest" left by the U.S.S.R. to be encroaching on the time of the Second World War.
>>76565204
Non one wants it because Russians are niggers that that ruined a great city
Recompense for wartime suffering.
Don't they also have territory on the Mediterranean or is that gone since the fall of the USSR?
>>76569407
That's not actually true. It's one of the best places to live in Russia.
>>76573373
I wonder why it such a nice place. Might have something to do with the people who once inhabited it
Probably because Russia really does not like giving up land. The area is heavily militarized for obvious reasons although it's stupid in my opinion. If there was a war with Russia Kalingrad would get bombed into rubble faster than you could say cyka
>>76574172
I wouldn't be so sure, Russian anti-air is no joke, but of course there will never be a war with Russia
>>76568703
Prussia should split from Germany. Like a reverse of the unification.
>>76573810
I think that's pretty much the rub of it.
>The Prussian state,which from early days has been a bearer of militarism and reaction in Germany,, has de facto ceased to exist.
>Guided by the interest of preservation of peace and security of peoples, and with the desire to assure further construction of the political life of Germany on a democratic basis, the Control enacts as follows
>ARTICLE 1
>The Prussian state together with its central government and all its agencies is abolished
Signed by stupid white people on 25 February 1947
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_Control_Council
Good job idiots
>>76571949
Otto Von Bismarck would pop a gasket if he could see how much his glorious nation got fucked up by incompetent leaders.
Then he'd take all that land back.
>>76564007
Because Polish, Lithuanians, Latvians and Estonians exist
>>76564067
Wow,
Russia is tiny now.
>>76575153
there was a reason they called the Russian empire "the third Rome"
Fuck communism, I'd kill Karl marx a billion times for all the ways he's fucked up this once glorious world.
>>76571949
>Memeland
>>76563936
They didn't have Trump at the table when the regions were being settled :-)
>>76575084
>Then he'd take all that land back.
And then some
>>76575495
>Memeflag
>>76574784
>Russian anti-air is no joke
It is when it goes up against American tech ;)
>>76563936
Because Russia didn't want the Baltic navy to freeze during the winter, so they wanted a warm port, so they killed all the Germans and Lithuanians living there, and replaced them with Russians faster than you can say suka
>>76576515
As well as all other Germans living outside of the German Democratic Republic puppet state. If you weren't in the GDR and you were German, you were either deported there or killed.
Because it's a big Fuck You reminder to Germany about staying home and not starting shit.
>>76576751
That was horrible. As an ethnic German can confirm. Soviet Union treated us horribly.
>>76576988
It really did, the Soviet union did this to other groups as well, like the Polish, Romanians, Hungarians, Finnish, the Baltic people. Basically everyone who they fought against, they deported
>>76576794
Don't be rude
>>76563936
I live here.
>>76577377
Why?
Is Kaliningrad the whitest region in Russia?
Why does this belong to the UK and the USA uses it?
>>76576988
>That was horrible. As an ethnic German can confirm. Soviet Union treated us horribly.
Stop invading people then.
>>76563936
Honestly? Because Russia has the biggest dick in the region and it happens to need a warm water port.
>>76577430
Is it any different from the rest of Russia? Do people in Kaliningrad identify as Europeans?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnwNOtG06Dg
>>76576751
This is bullshit. My mother was German and she lived in Soviet Union just fine. She even visited her relatives in Western Germany.
>>76577654
All Ethnic Russians are Europeans. Even the ones living in Siberia.
>>76577715
Yeah, but I remember reading somewhere that Russians nowadays prefer to call themselves Eurasians, or simply Russians, to distance themselves from 'degenerate' Europe
>>76575724
FYI war between the US and Russia has been computed millions of times by men far smarter than everyone in this thread combined. The end result is the US and Russia no longer existing. In fact much of the human race no longer exists either. It wont matter if the US's football saves the day, the US's AWACS saving the day, or Russia's Dead Hand that ends the day. Everyone dies
That is why no 2 nuclear countries will ever go to war.
>>76577654
Huh? No. This is average place. Just like any other region of european Russia. German heritage is almost unnoticeable.
>>76564391
>The Russian empire never owned konigsberg. They acquired it after WW2.
They owned it during the Seven Years War.
>>76564791
GAS THE KRAUTS RUTHENE WAR NOW
>>76578164
>German heritage is almost unnoticeable.
That's a shame t.b.h
>>76577995
You mean that some Russians didn't associated themselves with European civilisation? It's not something new. It was around since 18 century.
>>76577534
Because it was uninhabited until colonial plantations imported labor.
Later, after WW2, the US was looking for a strategic air base in the indian ocean to project airpower over south asia. UK and US interests aligned and agreed on the base. The deal stipulated that the island had to be uninhabited, so the brits removed the imported "chagosians".
>>76569407
Speaking of which, does anyone have any before and after photographs of Konigsberg? Similar to pic related but more focused on architecture.
>>76578764
Like this?
>>76578764
>>76578764
Notice the house in pseudo german style. Now it's very popular.
>>76579149
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>>76579499
These are pretty awesome
>>76577588
Shut the fuck up. Russian Germans were second minority group and second largest European group in Russia, if we don't include Ukraine. Now only about a million of us left.
>>76577705
Deportations and dismantle of Volga German Republic, no?
>>76578164
>German heritage is almost unnotacible
Genocide everyone. Soon that can be said about English in London.
>>76578598
They never distance themselves from European civilization, they were more focused on Slavophiliac ideas. That's like picking Slavic identity over common European.
>>76578764
>>76572034
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>>76579499
>>76579287
>>76579149
Yes, those will do fine. Thanks!
>>76579813
m not a Wolgadeutsche. And what wrong with deportation? USSR was attacked buy Germany, what you supposed to do with whole region population by ethnic Germans?
Why isn't London british?
>>76578764
>>76579149
>>76579287
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>>76580065
Northern Europe all looks the same. It's cool the first time you go there and see it.....6th and 7th time not so much.
>>76581032
Really made me think tbhfam...
>>76580849
Let them show their loyalty of course. Because it's not like they were treated bad.
>>76563936
They want a port in the Baltic Sea.
>>76564161
>using the word aryans unironically
