>God creates the punishment for not worshiping him, which is an eternity in Hell
>God creates man, 70% of whom never learn about Christianity thanks to geographic and cultural separation
>God kills ~10 million children every year through disease. starvation and war
>God sentences ~7 million children every year to an eternity in Hell for the crime of being born in the wrong culture
How do Christfags defend this?
>>76093364
you now want McDonalds
>>76093419
Goddamn
>>76093364
life on earth is just a job interview for the afterlife so it doesnt matter
Yeah YHWY is bit of a cock
>sup god
>if it aint my nigga satan what up? Filed that 402A on souls?
>Its coming along, hey office has a bet going want in?
>aw shit whatup?
>you know that nigga job?
>shit dog thats my BOY
>ok ok ok lets slowly destroy his life and see how long ot takes him to cry bitch ass tears
>YOU ARE ON YO WHERE MY BAG OF DROUGHT AND WIFE KILLER AT?
>>76093419
Thanks dick. You are now breathing manually
Anyone who isn't able to hear about God or Jesus automatically goes to Heaven. Checkmate gaytheists.
>>76093364
>just bee yourself
>>76094101
Thats not what Catholics believe.
>>76093364
Demiurge
>>76093865
Best retelling of the story of Job ever.
>>76093364
christianity is not logical. so expecting it to follow logic is retarded.
as for how it happens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaUhR-tRkHY
>>76093364
>god is the way the truth and the life
>the natural world is the will of god
>surprised when he dies having not built anything of worth in his soul because he didnt play by the rules of the natural world
also there is something called purgatory. fire and brimstone is a meme for weak people like you who believe bullshit with little hesitation. read the source code
next question
>>76093865
>>76094295
Catholics are the dumbest mother fuckers around. They have the idea of priests and nuns, which are just stupid. Also the pope shouldn't exist, no man is ordained by God. And Purgatory is never mentioned in the bible, it was just created by Catholicism to make money off of people who want to shorten their time spent their. Catholicism was created due to corruption, and will never truly be a religion of Christianity in my opinion.
>>76093364
How about that time when he drowned nearly every single man, woman, child, puppy and kitty on earth because he didn't approve of some people's behavior? That was a good one.
But hey then he invented rainbows to say "sorry guys, I won't drown you and your families again. My bad!" That was thoughtful.
>>76093364
> 70% of whom never learn about Christianity thanks to geographic and cultural separation
Prove 70%
So wait, wait.
You're saying the tribal myths of illiterate bronze age goat herders are logically inconsistent?
Whoah.
>>76093364
When we breed horses to race, we select the few and best. Maybe that's what god is doing. To assume the will of god is a sin
>>76093364
I believe that God doesn't get involved in the affairs of men. He's probably shilling watching us evolve
>>76094826
heretic
burn him
Children don't go to hell you stupid fuck, stop making shit threads with information taken from your ass, r3ddit.
>>76093364
>I don't believe this
>I don't believe this
>I don't believe this
>I don't believe this
I am very Christian. Maybe you're talking to someone else, specifically. There are people. People have fucked up ideas. Christians are people. There are Christian people with fucked up ideas. Now you're on the road to "not being a bigot". Good for you!
>>76093364
Did you ever play Sims?
Do you remember how you messed around with your population?
/thread
>>76095089
>shilling
I do not think that means what you think it means.
>>76094665
I don't know about that. Thanks to the collective stupidity of white protestants we got the Iraq war.
>>76094782
Pic related
>>76094921
Islam is growing about twice as fast as Christianity, which is essential stagnant with the world population. Does that mean Islam is the correct religion?
>>76095375
I'm really sad we Protestants get blamed for all the charismatics, evangelicals, born agains and whatever else under the sun. I have to claim them because they're people, but I swear I didn't have anything to do with all this.
>>76093364
Children do not know the difference between right and wrong for some time so they are exempt from going to Hell
>>76094101
Wouldn't it be better to stop people from hearing about Christianity then? If nobody hears about it then everybody is saved.
>>76094101
Damn. What a fucked up religion. Lol
>>76095407
Muslims are converting by the tens of thousands in refugee host countries. That's a no-bias truth, although honestly, I think they're doing it for a better chance at nicer accommodations, or even because they really think America isn't taking Muslims.
>>76094101
This
>>76093364
>hell
>real
Yea you dont understand the scriptures
>>76093364
the ways of our Lord are mysterious
>>76094017
you now feel need to blink and swallowing
I could beat God and Allah in a 1v2 fight.
>>76095715
>>76094739
Christianity is really fucked up itself being so hypocrtical. So probably doesnt matter.
>>76095407
>white countries in the world have a declining birthrate
>brown countries do not
What is religion? It's information in our brains. Ideas, albeit very bad ones. Nonsense. Very bad memes indeed.
Seeing how religion is so god damned boring I don't understand how you guys manage. And are you guys afraid of hell? Man, that sounds like shit.
>>76095728
>clergy spends centuries scaring the peasants into obedience with threats of eternal torture
>eventually peasants call bullshit
>"no guys it was metaphorical all along :^)"
>>76095998
It's almost sunset. Shouldn't you be at mosque?
>>76095998
I always found it telling that God NEVER has a sense of humor. The most powerful being in the universe, and not one joke, in all those books? I can't believe that God is God if he can be outwitted by Jon Stewart.
>>76093364
god is brutal, thats why i love him.
>>76095766
Kek is infinitely better than YHWH
>>76095998
>>76096150
I am honoured to be in the presence of enlightened ubermensch
*tips*
>>76095785
You now want Somali cock
>>76096079
Yeah, the clergy were jewing the poor. And still are! Scaring them with nonsense. Oh my goodness.
Yeah, religious people love moving the goal posts. It's very fucking convenient when you don't have any arguments! Or evidence, or arguments based on evidence! Only feelings and nonsense; like small children and/or hysterical women. Religion is a good example of the great/big lie. Truly anything is possible.
>>76093364
So all you have to do is worship God and you don't experience an eternity in hell, how difficult!
>here's some examples of free will being used maliciously and the result of denying belief and persecuting believers
>defend salvation faggot lol got you there
>>76093364
>muh poor innocent starving chilluns
>if you don't care about people outside your sphere of influence you're a terrible person
>>76095407
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/islam-fastest-shrinking-religion-in-the-world
>Islam is growing about twice as fast as Christianity, which is essential stagnant with the world population. Does that mean Islam is the correct religion?
>>76096174
You now realise God is Jesus, which is Josephs wife son.
You worship Josephs wife son.
>Not being second degree cucked
>>76096295
>>76095998
This is getting old.
Christians have very much in common with the mudslime.
>>76093364
Man creates punishments and claims they come from God.
Christianity says we should do unto others as you would have done unto you.
Children die due to mans inabilities. God gave children to us to look after, because we don't is not Gods fault, it's ours.
>>76096652
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_peUxE_BKcU
>>76093364
>god gives humans reasoning, logic and the ability to communicate like no other creature on earth
>somehow he would also create religions that preach "listen and believe", going against his greatest gift
Most religions were and have been created and used to manipulate laypeople like tools, like herd, without regard for their much needed evolution.
>>76096652
>indian christians
Disgusting.
Was the 2004 earthquake/tsunami man's fault too? Or was there a reason he killed 200,000+ of your countrymen and neighbors?
>>76095407
World's IQ levels are also dropping. The fact that more people are aloha snackbarring would make sense then, because it takes a fucking retard to be muslim.
>>76093364
>hell is a punishment torture playground
go read the old testament and ask a jew if they believe in the afterlife. Nothing has changed for those who don't give themselves to Christ. Those who don't want Chrisr are not forced to spend eternity with him. Everyone else is given the sweet silence of oblivion.
Isn't there some kind of purgatory or limbo for people like that
ITT: people who have never had a proper exposure to the Word
Find Jesus, friends. Open your heart, and God will enter it. Ask for faith, and you will receive it.
>>76093364
Wow, this really makes you think. I am now a #muslimmissle
>>76093364
You're supposed to seek salvation. Everywhere.
And it's not like there are no Christians all over the world. And with the Internet, you can be almost anywhere and learn of Christianity. It's just that the false faiths keep people from knowing the one true faith. Muslims kill converts, or persecute them in varying degrees (from being burdened by non-Muslim tax, to being murdered for being a non-Muslim). Jews... well, they Jew the goys. Atheist/Communists, see Soviet Union and China.
But despite that, they should believe, even if it means certain death. If they live, then they get to continue God's work of helping your fellow man. If you die, then you get your reward for believing and living the Christian life.
>>76094240
this desu
>>76097138
Open your ass and my cock will enter it, faggot.
>>76096908
Natural disasters. Trials and tribulations. This is the way the planet works.
>>76093364
>God doesn't do things like I want him to
>the thread
I believe in God and I believe he flooded the world killing probably billions of people and sending them to hell also.
What he does is none of my business. I just want to take the free ride he offered through his Son Jesus Christ out of here. This place is a low grade hell as it stands.
>>76093364
It's not quite that simple.
God created the universe with natural laws, the laws of physics. Everything within the earth functions as though God were not present. He created humans as natural representatives of the universe to understand the glory of reality, which is brutal and savage, but strikingly beautiful.
Sin literally means doing something that God wouldn't do within his holy character. Everything affected by sin is subject to death.
Sin is an unfortunate but natural side effect of creation, one that comes with choice. If you do not abide by God's law and receive his salvation from your broken condition, you fall away into the eternal cycle of destruction that consumes everything.
>>76093865
He gave him back twice as much in the end you know.
>>76097394
>this is the way the planet works
>because God made it work that way
>>76097351
Atheists are the faggots, faggot.
Enjoy your subjective "morality" as our once great country dies because of it.
>>76096754
Your not the first, Just a follower. Nothing that hasn't been said or done or seen already. Old.
>>76097015
The problem is Muslims aren't allowed to question their faith or they're executed. In a Muslim country your family would kill you to protect their honor before letting you convert to something like Christianity.
>>76097444
After killing his firstborn sons and daughters
>>76096409
Fuck off, Reddit.
>>76095319
I think he meant chilling
>>76097396
This is okay.
You, mate, are a-okay.
Your reasoning works because you don't try to convince anybody with lies or with shit like
>Bible is just interpretation
That I can respect.
>>76094295
>>76094665
Other way around, dipshits. Catholics are the ones who believe that Christ doesn't damn those ignorant of Him. Protestants are the ones who say "shit one, you're going to hell".
>This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:
Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience—those too may achieve eternal salvation."
>>76097450
Do you have a better way? Time flows forward to reach its goal. Man sometimes gets in the way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07AWWJiyAU8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx8ZMkWL8hw
>>76097759
I'm a Christian Fundamentalist. I think God is a no bullshit kind of guy and there is no way I can think on his level or rationalize what he does.
I just accept he tells it like it is and gets stuff done the way he wants to do it. It doesn't matter to me. I love him anyway.
>>76093364
La Comedia.
>>76097698
Death is nothing in the bible. We all go places after. Life here is misery. He was doing them a favor. Job was miserable because he was alone.
The moral of Job is to never blaspheme God, which he never did, and to be thankful for all you have because God is ultimately responsible for whatever happens to you.
We are to fear God for a reason. There is nothing else worth fearing.
>>76093364
Children are still innocent. So they get a free pass to heaven brah
>>76097562
Poo in the loo Pajeet lol
God made you a poop skin
>>76098191
Careful you might trigger a Catholic with his capital T traditions.
>>76098224
Indian flag. Must be indian. American education system.
>>76097891
We were talking about trials and tribulations Pajeet, nothing to do with man getting in the way,
>>76098084
Anyone else think Christians often talk about God as if he were an abusive husband? "Careful, you'll anger him and then..." I'm not an atheist, but I try to start from the premise that God is good.
>>76093364
Because regardless of if God is real....he is the God of whites. And he is based as fuck.
He literally invites us to imperialize the world in his name. To kill the degeneracy.
Heil Christos.
>>76098319
I don't have to step into human shit everywhere I go XD
>>76093364
>everything that happens in nature is God's """""fault"""""
Read the bible you dumb nigger.
>>76098336
Natural disasters would still happen if man wasn't on this planet.
>>76098471
Nor do I. I sometimes listen to human shit though.
>>76093364
>God creates the punishment for not worshiping him, which is an eternity in Hell
Not true, you are punished by your own actions. You go to heaven not by worship but by accepting Jesus Christ as your savior
>God creates man, 70% of whom never learn about Christianity thanks to geographic and cultural separation
You got that stat out of your ass. If you go around the world im sure most people would have at least heard about Jesus Christ.
>God kills ~10 million children every year through disease. starvation and war
God does not kill those children, thats man. Man started those wars, man created that starvation. man created the condition for disease
>God sentences ~7 million children every year to an eternity in Hell for the crime of being born in the wrong culture
God sentences non innocent children to hellfire because of their own actions. But God does not want ANYONE to perish. Thats why he commanded every Christian to spread the Gospel. Which is the only way of saving ourselves from our own shortcomings
>>76098376
God is good but we cannot understand him. We can know him and have a relationship with him and he is our Father. I just dislike people whining about what he does. Its like the clay asking the potter, what doest thou?
>>76094101
Wwll it depends on their actions and morals. As Paul said, "those that do not have the law are a law unto themselves." I personally believe that there will be people in heaven who never held a bible but felt a connection with God through their relations with humans, nature, and natural curiosity. And the children that don't make it and are very young? They go to heaven. "Let the children come to me, for it is easier for one of these to enter heaven than one of you." God has a huge heart and I believe that when I get there, if I get there, that so many children will be grown up and see their parents. They won't recognise their children, but the kids will know them and say "remember me? I missed you, mom and dad. I've waited so long." That's the God and heaven I believe in and what the bible seems to teach most plainly. Idealistic? Maybe. But God always gives the weak and downtrodden refuge and safety in the afterlife moreso than those that are capable here.
>>76098899
>God does not kill those children, thats man. Man started those wars, man created that starvation. man created the condition for disease
God created malaria and other bacteria/viruses that routinely kill children.
>>76097888
As a former protestant, this is true. Catholics are actually more accepting and lenient than prostate-ants.
>>76098765
Yeah that's what happens when you talk to yourself Pajeet XDD
>>76093364
>Tower of Babylon
>>76093419
Jokes on you cunt, I had it earlier.
>>76099109
Calm down burger. Don' get triggered.
>>76093419
>Wanting McDonalds, ever.
I'm not sure how they are in America, but in Finlan it's terrible, and so is Hesburger.
>>76097138
This.
study the new testament with an open heart and mind.
>>76098899
The name of Jesus is 26 times in the Qu´ran (Submission)
The name Mohammad is 6 times in the Qu´ran (submission)
>>76093364
>>God kills
Whatever you think about God and morality, there is no excuse for believing in eternal punishment in hell. It's a huge insult to suggest that anyone, much less an omnipotent God, would be involved in such a thing in any way. There's more likely to be a punishment in the afterlife for insulting God's goodness and terrorizing fellow humans with the idea than many things idiots think you'd go to hell for.
It doesn't matter that huge numbers of Christians believe in the idea. They are idiots with no sense of real ethics, just like the equally huge numbers of Muslims that Christians tend to think are idiots with no sense of real ethics.
>>76102046
>I know this because I'm a human and can definitely figure out how an omnipotent being would think and act
>>76099033
malaria tribes in stagnated waters, usually from poor living conditions created by man. Guess what God told their own people about stagnated waters.
>And when he that hath an issue is cleansed of his issue; then he shall number to himself seven days for his cleansing, and wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in running water, and shall be clean.
>running water
>>76093419
haha IDIOT i'm already eating BK
I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm fed
>>76100251
im sure the name of Jesus is plenty of times on some atheist book as well
>>76099033
So what?
EVERYBODY fucking dies. Why is children dying of malaria so awful that it overshadows everything else in life?
For fuck's sake you're an atheist, you don't even believe in an after-life. Logically then you shouldn't give a shit about those dead kids because they're DEAD and their suffering is over. The only people effected by dead kids are the parents of those dead kids, and guess what?
They'll get over it, because suffering is a part of life, and being privileged enough to witness a single sunrise outweighs all conceivable suffering a human could experience in life.
>>76102046
If you don't believe life is eternal, in death your light simply goes out. Hell is devoid of life. Thats why it's called hell.
>>76093419
You bastard
>>76093364
>expecting faith and god to make sense to you
you're retarded son, repent
>>76102245
I know this because I'm a human, and even my limited abilities as a human can easily tell me what kinds of worlds it would be worthwhile to live in, and what kinds of worlds it would be a monstrous crime to ever create sentient beings in.
Maybe the omnipotent rulers of the universe are Cthulhu-like abominations, but at least I'm capable of knowing that we might as well all give up in total despair if that's the case.
>>76093364
>God creates man, 70% of whom never learn about Christianity thanks to geographic and cultural separation
God don't care about a few billions of unlucky mortals who never learned about Christ.
He is an omnipotent being who rule the universe after all.
>>76102540
Why is the natural consequence of sin a monstrous thing?
Is the natural consequence of falling from a cliff monstrous as well?
>>76102439
Who cares about that? It's not like being dead and not existing ever bothered anyone. The moral abomination is the idea of conscious, eternal suffering. A "hell" that's simply non-existence is hardly a hell at all.
>>76097888
the trips have spoken
catholicism is based
>>76102726
t. someone who has never experienced non-existence
>>76093364
Why do Atheists take everything literally?
>>76102540
>When your ID is that Russian
>>76094826
>illiterate
>the torah, bible, and koran are books
>>76096150
>never seen god argue with funny jew man on TV
>ergo funny jew man wins
>>76102717
We're not talking about physics here. We're talking about an omnipotent being capable of conscious and ethical thought better than any human. If the natural consequence of sin is eternal suffering, and many will fall into it, then the ethical thing to do would be to not create the universe at all. In that case, the creation itself would be the monstrous thing. Obviously, the whole idea is absurd, just like the idea of hell.
>>76102817
No kidding. Not being able to experience it is kind of the point, isn't it. Clearly, at the very least no harm can come to you if you don't exist.
>>76102859
I know, I was impressed too. Actually I really am Russian
>>76096150
>Talks as a burning bush
>Jesus was born to a 'virgin'
>No sense of humor
You don't know funny.
>>76102726
>A "hell" that's simply non-existence is hardly a hell at all.
It is to those who seek eternal life.
>>76096403
And now my watch has ended
>>76103305
Seems like semantics to me. If you want to live forever and you end up dying that might be quite a disappointment, but there's still a huge moral and practical difference between not existing and feeling nothing (not even the passage of time, so the whole thing would have to feel instantaneous!), and feeling actual physical pain.
God is as likely to exist as genies and pixies. The only reason religious people want him to exist is so that they can live forever in an eternally happy place.
The sooner that you accept that this place probably doesn't exist, the better.
>>76093364
YHWH is the god of the Jews, what you're describing only happens to goys.
>>76103699
Non existence is the ultimate punishment.
>>76093364
Sin (like unbelief) is what it sends you too hell
In this day everyone knows that Jesus is the son of God.
Blame men, not God
Blame men, not God
>>76103904
Would be nice if true, but it clearly isn't. There are punishments right here on earth much worse than nonexistence. I would certainly rather die and not exist than, say, be severely tortured for a month. That's something that happens to someone on earth fairly regularly. I suspect many very old and sick people secretly want to hurry up and die, even without any expectation of an afterlife.
Of course, none of those things are in any way comparable to some Christians' and Muslims' ideas of hell, which is another reason why the idea is so ridiculous.
>>76103904
Would be nice if true, but it clearly isn't. There are punishments right here on earth much worse than nonexistence. I would certainly rather die and not exist than, say, be severely tortured for a month. That's something that happens to someone on earth fairly regularly. I suspect many very old and sick people secretly want to hurry up and die, even without any expectation of an afterlife.
Of course, none of those things are in any way comparable to some Christians' and Muslims' ideas of hell, which is another reason why the idea is so ridiculous.
The people who never hear about Christianity are still all evil and deserver eternal death
>>76097888
As a Catholic, I can confirm
>>76098925
thats a nice pic. Realy has a deep meaning in it.
Gospel Christianity is crypto-Buddhism. Those who do not ablate the self enough to reunite with God are doomed to the "Outer Darkness" outside God/Source - This is in fact our own reality, which Buddhism (And most of /Pol/) defines as Hell. The spiritually flawed, and/or those who embrace the Luciferian principal of independence from God, are doomed to "Hell" until they finally release their self and ego. Similarly, the state of union with God is not irreversible, as "Lucifer's Fall" demonstrates. As long as one chooses Righteousness, they will exist with God, and as long as one chooses Sin, they will exist with Lucifer.
You are aware that humans are the ones who kill each other in war, not God right? You are aware that humans are the ones who cause starvation, not God right?
Op
People don't change.
The worst you can do is subjugate them long enough to make sure they don't do what they do..
Then things change.
Rehab aint easy.. probably
Some people just make em suckdik..
Which ain't nice.
>>76106766
Interesting perspective.
>>76108710
No more masturbation
>>76096403
Fucking asshole. I always fall for that
>>76094101
>Deaf people go to heaven
Maybe Hell isn't such a bad place, after all.
>>76093364
Gods mercy and purgatory. But you wouldn't know anything about that hey heathen scum?
>>76093364
>imblying it's not a reason to be proud of christianity
look at those poor non-christian babies covered in filth, they sure look like they want to immigrate to a white european countries built on christian values
OP is a cuck
>>76094665
Purgatory is mentioned. Sheol is mentioned in the bible as a place away from gods light. Those who died before jesus and were god where kept in the redemption zone. When jesus made the covenant with god he saved those people. The wretched and sinners wander on darkness forever. Which athiests believe in total darkness after death anyways so what does it matter for them?
![enhanced-30622-1392824849-12[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HVt7ol8.jpg "enhanced-30622-1392824849-12[1].jpg")
>>76093364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOpKXW1uFs8
>>76102932
Yes and the only people who could read them were the ones who wrote them. Majority of all humans alive back in those days were illiterate.
All the bad parts get skipped over for the good parts, just like in your bible study class John.
hebrew folklore is wackie sillie and shouldn't be interpreted literally
an overwhelming majority of practicing christians never actually read the bible or pay much attention to it, only the NuAge teen xstianz fighting that fedora scourge dig deep and try to rationalize the inconsistencies for (you)s and high fives
