https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQq_kkdAMy4
How will he ever recover?
*Stefan
>>76076033
>>76076033
varg is pretty based but he is against trump and capitalism which i disagree with him on
>>76076033
>>76076113
>>76076120
>>76076162
What does /pol/ think about based Bill Whittle? is he Redpilled?
>>76076162
Well of course he is, he advocates returning back to simpler, traditional life. This can't be achieved with Capitalism
>Inb4 commie
>>76076208
Don't shitpost on my thread cunt
>>76076313
What does /pol/ think about based Red Pill? Is he billwhittled?
>>76076254
wouldnt that be the same ideology as ted kazynski?
This guy maybe the only Westerners I truly respect.
>inb4 hurrrrrrrr he murdered somebody
He murdered a psychopathic degenerate that constantly channeled his angst to new levels.
If anything he did everyone a favor:
>BM should be about satanism
>No it shouldn't, mine's about nationalism and ancient tradition; about staying true to your roots.
>I'm gonna sacrifice you to Satan
And people shit on him for cleaning up.
If you are European and hate/disrespect Varg you should be ashamed.
>>76076033
Is molyneux really a jew ?
>>76076436
I don't know who that is.
>>76076033
Why are Varg's videos so comfy? I could sit down for hours watching his channel and it could just feel like 5 minutes.
>>76076546
I wasn't aware until I saw this vid, but I doubt Varg wouldn't say so if otherwise
>>76076669
They are quite depressing though, he's right about a lot of things, in a bad way.
>>76076586
hes the una bomber
>>76076669
>>76076806
He talks on a pretty calmed and relaxing way.
I think its intentional, because I do the same thing when I am trying to convince someone. It Works very well. Human beings want to feel comfy.
>>76077310
His videos do make me want to buy a plot of land and just spend the rest of my days farming with my family by my side desu. Thankfully I'm still young
>>76077473
Why is that a bad thing? I am on my way. I plan to work only half of the year, grow my own food, and get incomes from other sources.
I refuse to participate on this shit anymore, they are not getting anything for me. I rather die.
>>76077720
It's not bad at all, it's just depressing because I can't do it yet and I'm hoping I can pull it off before the world goes to shit.
>>76076033
Not a single argument. I mean that literally, not shitposting this time
>>76077902
His argument is that capitalism does not work in the interests of the nation or it's people. It is only motivated by profit.
>>76077902
Arguments are for faggots.
>>76076033
where does he get Stefan is a Jew? Also, he is saying communism/socialism is better. Varg is a moron
I don't mind capitalism only when the government is traditional and protects the values of its peoples. Only government can sustain the education system that can teach us about our history, because we can't rely on old tribal way from grandfather to father from him to his son from him to his son and so on.
Is this guy a nationalist?
>>76078561
Communism and socialism have proven to be better for the preservation of identity than capitalism.
This is not a dicussion on the theoretical plain, practice has proved it, man. I know its a contradiction, but reality is often contradictory.
>>76076033
not an argument
>>76076586
then lurk moar newfag
>>76078676
not a norwegian nationalist, but a white nationalist. he got arrested for burning a church that was built on an old pagan shrine, got out, and then got arrested again for alleged affiliation with Anders breivik
>>76076033
eh.. complacency is what is destroying the west.. because of the nations mentioned in red being worse off they had focus on other things, so they are perhaps less decadent.. however that doesn't mean that communism is better.. it means it took them longer to recover from the mess of communism/socialism.. and therefore they are less decadent because they do not have access to a higher living standard..
Otherwise not bad video.
>>76078969
---> >>76078440
Go jerk off to a tree somewhere else, fringechan cuckolds.
>>76078619
Practically impossible as the manipulative sociopaths who don't care for traditional values will always use the system to their own benefit whilst others suffer.
>>76078561
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZkMc5bvuyQ
>Also, he is saying communism/socialism is better
No he doesn't
>>76078619
So paleoconservatism? I personally am divided between which is better: that or fascism?
>>76078676
Yes. Although according to the media he is a raycisss
>>76078864
This. When the Soviets were going to collapse they reinstalled many traditionalist institutions, such as the church. Stalin was an evil cunt, but he was pragmatic.
Pic related. Technically speaking it is against revolutionary principles to portray the """evil""" bourgeoisie Tsarist Russia in such a positive manner.
NOT AN ARGUMENT
>>76076033
Hehe *snorts* look at this varg dude he made a video about white genocide *licks snot off of upper lip* the white race must be preserved! *snorts*
>>76079003
I've been on here making 300+ reply threads for two years now kraut. Sorry that I haven't of you man before, recognise his ugly face though.
>>76077902
capitalism turns people into cucks and faggots. look at the west compared to the east. seems like an argument to me.
anyone with a brain knows that capitalism is "the jew" anyway. /pol/ is filled with americans and ameriboos who are too brainwashed to see it.
>>76076033
i cringed the whole time, thx
>>76079508
>I've been on here making 300+ reply threads for two years now
how do you not know wo ted kazynski is then?
we need to be more hostile to ignorance it keeps the quality up
>slaves bad
when will this meme end
>>76079723
Well you've shilled him enough for me to check him out, now get of my back. Worry about more important stuff like how Merkel is fucking your country over.
>>76076669
because he's a hypnotist
Crony capitalism is not capitalism. I can't believe people still confuse these two.
>>76079537
>capitalism turns people into cucks and faggots
the blame for this behavior falls on the individual.
>>76079983
>Compares the two regions
I don't see any lies here, Communism has kept your lot tough and prevented the surge in effeminate cucks. He even outlined this with the West/East Germany comparison. Not saying that it was in its self a good thing, but good came out of it.
>>76076033
I like Varg but I can't understand how a guy who appreciates european culture and identity can at the same time bash christianity, which contributed to it more than anything.
>>76079537
>competitive and strong willed people are cucks
>>76076033
He's misunderstanding it, it isn't capitalism's fault. What we're seeing is a shift, the former communist countries are creating a push back (Resisting) after the west has now begun to accumulate more towards communism itself.
So it's mounting up to become another world war if this keeps up.
>>76076162
He's not against Trump, he just thinks that he's another Jewish shill, and won't change anything.
>>76080111
>>76080490
Isn't that a 'no true Scotsman' argument though?
>>76080284
>Communism has kept your lot tough
Nationalism did that.
>>76080412
Christianity is globalist and Abrahamic. It doesn't care what race you are, and Europe was doing fine before Christianity.
>>76080412
His only argument for hating Christianity is that it comes from the Middle East.
>>76080412
>Armies sent out to other continents to bring God to other people, only for them to come knocking on our door for muh reparations
Yeah really gr8 mate.
>>76080412
I thought like you until the other day, when I got into an argue with some catholic nationalists here.
Some christians are fine, others are totally retarded.
I told them: Christianity is of no use if it doesn't serve the european cause.
And they replied:
European cause is if no use if it does not serve christianity.
Don't you understand? They care abut their god and their afterlife, and nothing more. They will give up everything in this world to defend that. Those type of christians are extremely harmful.
>>76080642
>Implying Nationalism wasn't borne out of the collapse of Communism
>>76076033
Stefan is white for fucks sake lol
>>76077310
Polyvagal theory. Speaking melodically and with prose puts a person nervous system at ease.
>>76080284
I wont disagree that compared to the idiocy in Sweden today, the outcome today is decent. But that outcome is due to rediscovered nationalism and directly because we fought against communism, not that we were once communists.
A lot of idiots however will somehow think that communism is based from this, and disregard the "ex-" in front.
Still, silver lining is a silver lining, and getting too butthurt about the comparison is pointless.
>>76080760
See >>76079371
Communism was only able to survive as long as it did because it became nationalistic
>>76080490
>west has now begun to accumulate more towards communism itself
Nigga please, at least have the courage to name things as they are. What the west is experiencing now is not communism but the end result of demoliberalism and individualism, with all it's "human rights" and "tolerance".
You think communism in the east was anything like that? Old school commies from Russia and it's republics were nationalistic as fuck, and the propaganda promoted patriotism and family values.
>>76080642
>Europe was doing fine before Christianity
No it wasn't, Europe was a shithole back then. Roman Empire is not an argument, it wasn't european per se, and it was also globalist with a lot of arab and even african influence.
>>76080642
>Isn't that a 'no true Scotsman' argument though?
No?
>yfw cultural marxism is actually cultural capitalism
>>76080700
>European cause is if no use if it does not serve christianity
But they're right. Think about it for a second: christianity teaches people how to live moral and good life, it promotes traditional values of truth, honour, family and all that. Now imagine if Europe abandoned those values in favour of bullshit, like it did in recent times. What value this Europe has in itself? Would you defend it, even if it stands for wrong values?
>>76080643
Despite this he thinks ancient Egyptians were aryans
Not an argument
>>76080963
>Europe was a shithole back then
No it wasn't. Becoming familiar with pre-Christian again ideas led us to the renaissance, whilst Christianity gave us the dark ages.
>Roman Empire is not an argument
Why not?
>>76081020
It seems whenever some one criticises capitalism the response is always "that's not capitalism, that's crony capitalism". It reminds me of how socialists say the USSR was never socialist.
>>76081208
It's both
>cultural capitalism
That's called materialism.
>>76080643
No it's the globalist nature of Christianity, and this >>76080700
>>76076033
The real problem is the welfare state, stop giving benefits and only people who want to work will come to your country.
>>76080412
The reason there is so much Christian art is because the Church commissioned it. The artist would have painted anything, they needed money.
Why in the fuck is Stefan Molyneux a thing
I don't even care what he has to say, I just want to punch his smug face so goddamn bad
>not an argument
Yeah I know it isn't
>>76081695
>implying the artist is more important than art itself.
I dont care if he did it just to get his dick wet, if the art is good its good.
>>76076033
He did not even argue against Capitalism, he argued against open borders policy, domestication of citizens and deconstruction of traditional values.
This can be solved by simply staying Nationalist(i.e. anti globalist and protectionist) and resisting foreign influences. It does not contradict free market inside the nation, it contradicts a global market.
So, he's arguing against Globalism really.
And the last part where he says that the fall from the higher standard of living will be greater, is a good reason to not even try. Not really a mindset that can achieve scientific and social progress.
>>76081416
>dark ages
no such memes
>ecoming familiar with pre-Christian again ideas led us to the renaissance
It's good that you mention it because renaissance was also a rebirth of Christianity, which was reinterpreted in opposition to medieval scholasticism. Classic renaissance figures like da Vinci, Savonarola or Giovanni Pico della Mirandola were all devoted christians.
>Why not?
I already said it, Roman Empire was not "european", at least not like some people imagine.
>>76081695
> The artist would have painted anything, they needed money.
Please, pick up a book and read some biographies of those artists, and don't embarrass yourself any further.
>>76079004
Is it lutheran? Welp, he is still a fucking egdy pagan so fuck it
>>76076033
i value vargs opinions higher than stefan molyneux's
>>76076033
Good to hear from an actual European, instead of a shifty kike.
>>76076033
Not an argument
>>76081787
>So, he's arguing against Globalism really
Capitalism is a weapon of globalists. After all money has no borders.
>And the last part where he says that the fall from the higher standard of living will be greater, is a good reason to not even try.
More like he says to not to place too much value in materialism and to examine the issue from more than just economical standpoint, as Molyjew likes to do.
>>76076033
sabe quem é a piada dessa história toida, é essa vadia que vocês tão empurtrando pra cima de mim todo dia, e eu façlo questão de comelar o dia cagando e andando pra vida dessa merda, pode se matyar fuilha da puta, eu não liga pra tua moral, e nem pro que tu quer da tua vida
>>76080412
Look at her face. Look those eyes. She is like a Buddha.
The ancestral Mother Goddess inspired this artist.
>>76082277
>77
Yeah!
>>76081898
Don't bother arguing anyone who believes the dark ages meme has autism
>>76079004
Also went to jail for stabbing his bandmate to death
>>76079537
>anyone with a brain knows that capitalism is "the jew" anyway.
This. Even Marx named the Jew.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jewish_Question
>>76078561
>Also, he is saying communism/socialism is better. Varg is a moron
60% white.
capitalism is good.
varg is a good guy, unlike molyneux who just says what his audience wants to hear. he himself is for capitalism, which means that he believes in demand and supply. so logical conclusion, he is a greedy jew.
varg on the other hand is a based human being. he has multiple children and spends his time with his family and trying to educate people about their heritage and european traditions. he is not doing it for the fucking money.
>>76082213
>Capitalism is a weapon of globalists
And nationalism is your shield. The alternative is more govt control, which can be a greater weapon in the hands of Globalists.
>examine the issue from more than just economical standpoint
With this I absolutely agree.
I think the spread of liberalism and post modernism, which are just anti traditionalism, did the most damage in that sense. Those ideas were spread by propaganda and infiltration for the most part, rather than by economic means.
>>76080033
He's quite a famous person in black metal circles, and a popular meme in general.
>making 300+ reply threads
wait are you the brit who posts those troll threads about Hiroshima?
or are you the mummyposter?
>>76082223
Speak English you retarded Amazon monkey. Human beings can't understand you.
>>76076033
He very literally is not making an argument, he's making declaratory sentences without actually backing it up with evidence or reason.
Just to note, the "capitalist" countries (which is very fucking debatable considering the hyper-regulatory states they live in) he points out have 100% monopolies on the education system even to the point of banning homeschooling, and the state run schools (based off of the Prussian system) are designed for the specific purpose of brainwashing them.
>>76081898
>rebirth of Christianity
No it was the rediscovery of classical Greek philosophy
>devoted christians
>da Vinci
citation needed
>Savonarola
The heretic
>Giovanni Pico della Mirandola
You mean the neo-Platonic thinker
>>76076033
>i value my nordic heritage yet married a french woman
lol, this seems to be common among some nationalists, even latsbrah went after irish pussy instead of dating a swedish girl. i've seen brits date poles and say "WELL AT LEAST SHES WHITE, FOOK YOU JEW ITS OK TO MIX ETHNICITIES"
also
>we must pretend to believe in old gods for which there is no proof to save europe
goodness, why not just be atheist. atheists are the ones curing diseases and causing greater innovation. this whole "you need religion to be moral" is a /pol/ meme. i'm probably better behaved than most christians and "pagans" (i've never met one of the latter in real life yet, let me know when you guys are ready to leave the basement).
>>76081444
This
Also, I think it's not just the economic system. I think pre-ussr countries are more red pilled and see through the bullshit of EU and the shitty ideologies because they represent soviet union's similar kind of memeing. They know what it feels like to get fucked in the ass by a bigger union and what the end game of "equal rights" really is.
It's funny how the pre-ussr countries have the most capitalistic systems now too.
>>76081898
>Roman Empire was not "european",
they and greeks are founder of european civilization
they are the real europeans, you and germanics just got in in the package, sorry for its like that
>>76076162
Capitalism is shit. You need to swallow the red pill.
>>76080412
because christians destroyed the true european religion and it's traditions. look up the origins of christmas for example. fucking jews again. fucking isis like cult. burn some churches
>>76080412
Varg keeps repeating that christianity is allien to Europe, you really cant disagree with that.
Also the values of christianity are very different from europian ones, not only that. They are different from every other pagan values in the world, while these pagan values are quite simmilar.
>implying eastern block FORMER communist countries are more socialist than western europe
>implying socialism isnt the main driving force being immigration because they all want to get on welfare
its not even a secret, if you interview any of the immigrants they openly say things like "I need a house for my family, and angela merkel gives everyone a free house"
>>76083118
That's just survival of the fittest.
>>76081208
cultural marxism is basicly equallity
cultural capitalism is individualism and materialism
>>76082572
I know who Varg is mate, I like some of his music. I was referring to the unabomber guy. And no, I don't troll about Hiroshima.
>>76076033
can't wait for Memeux to tear him a new one. Jew or not, I respect Molyneux a lot more than a fucking deranged murderer.
>>76081285
So what? Egypitans are great people.
That doesnt mean that we should use their religion.
europe has its own.
>>76082723
>i value my nordic heritage yet married a french woman
Can you tell me what the difference is? Nations are artificially created, you can be more or less european, and thats all. What is an american anyways? Nothing.
>we must pretend to believe in old gods for which there is no proof to save europe
Why dont you watch his videos in? Gods are not metaphysical entities. He is agnostic regarding that matter. In other words, he admit he does not know what is beyond this world, nor does he care. Paganism focuses on life on earth.
>>76083246
>your side wins
hehe survival of the fittest scrub
>enemy side wins
HELP ME THE IMMIGRANTS ARE INVADING AND TAKING MY CULTURE ;;;;_;;;;
>>76082883
>I think pre-ussr countries are more red pilled and see through the bullshit of EU and the shitty ideologies because they represent soviet union's similar kind of memeing. They know what it feels like to get fucked in the ass by a bigger union and what the end game of "equal rights" really is.
True.
>It's funny how the pre-ussr countries have the most capitalistic systems now too.
Not so true. The successful ones are either mixed-market economies or state capitalist economies. The most unsuccessful post-commie countries are the most capitalistic ones. Foreign corporations came up and bought everything.
>>76083246
So Christianity is weak because it is declining?
>>76083351
He killed a degenerate, the world is better off without Euronymous
>>76080700
Christianity was banned from Japan for centuries because the shogun (accurately) suspected that it was actually a psychological weapon of conquest to undermine the national cohesion of a country as prelude to conquest and colonization.
You might note that Japan was thus the only nation in Asia that wasn't colonized by a Christian power
>>76076033
>starts his "no-arguments" with an ad hom (Shalom Stefan xDDDDDDDDD)
>>76083557
This.
>>76083005
>they and greeks are founder of european civilization
No, they are foundations upon which European civilization was built later.
>>76083118
>destroyed the true european religion and it's traditions
And how many traditions they build? How many achivements in science, architecture and art, which now can you be proud of? You are worshipping some pagan goatfuckers while ignoring everything of value, from Byzantium to Rome.
>>76083145
>values of christianity are very different from europian ones
How is that? Truth, kindness, honour, courage, all those values seem pretty christian to me, and they are all european. Even the image you posted has a lot in common.
>>76083465
so you want to throw away all the unique ethnicities and turn europe into one giant america? bad idea man. people around here have very little racial ties compared to europe. you'll just hurt yourself over the long run.
>paganism focuses on life on earth
he essentially said "let's make national socialism - the religion", but if you read the pagan texts there is nothing in there that would justify something like the third reich. if anything, the pagans were free-spirited expansionists (see the romans and vikings).
>>76083557
actually, Saudi Arabia was never colonized either
>>76083351
>Implying Molyneux hasn't gone completely nuts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8LjCS9Qhto
>>76076546
Yeah, he casually mentioned his mother was Jewish in a video once
>>76076033
I don't honestly think Stefan will even bother responding to him given his nigger-tier history.
>>76076033
>mu TRIBAL (read: trivial :DDD) and TRADITIONAL (read: stuck)
>>76076162
Being truly redpilled involves acknowledging that if Trump wasn't part of the plan, he wouldn't have made it this far
>>76083858
demoralization is a hell of a drug
>>76076162
Eh yeah he doesn't seem to be """against""" Trump, ideologically at least. He's just reluctant to throw in his endorsement, in fear that he is just a crypto-jew playing us all and telling us what we want to hear, which is a legitimate concern. I ofc fully pledge my allegiance to the god emperor, because hey why the fuck not? Better to take a chance with him given the small chance that he IS the real deal as opposed to just accepting our death with shillary.
>>76080017
You think slavery is good? You must realize that only reason America has black culture and that it's spreading to Europe too is because some idiots were for slavery.
It's the biggest error Americans ever made. No slaves to America = Completely white America.
>>76083858
This. He's just plan B in case the sheep don't vote for Hillary.
>>76083703
Sorry, I should have specified that I was referring to East Asia / the pacific islands rather than the whole continent
>>76081020
Yes, it is. It is an appeal to purity, like those who say the USSR isn't communist
>>76083598
>No, they are foundations upon which European civilization was built later.
And they were pagan.
How many achivements in science, architecture and art, which now can you be proud of?
A lot. Many of which was destroyed by Christians https://thuleanperspective.com/2015/04/25/about-the-isis-of-antiquity/
>How is that? Truth, kindness, honour, courage, all those values seem pretty christian to me, and they are all european. Even the image you posted has a lot in common.
Christianity incorporated many pagan ideals, traditions and holidays.
>>76083851
>>76083576
Ironically, not an argument.
>>76083926
I support Trump too, but it's healthy to be skeptical.
>>76083858
Also this being a major concern.
If it happened, it had to have been the jews... But i'm still saving hope. Trump is so powerful on his own that sabotaging him may prove to be a tough job for the establishment and da j00s... They never popped him before, assuming that the media would take him out. And they can't pop him now, it'd be too obvious and would lead to absolute real chaos...
>>76083576
>I don't know what an ad hom is
>that's when somebody insults you, right???
>>76083576
Arguments are full of ad hominem, Stefan does it all the time between his explanations.
>>76079371
"My mother was born in 1937 to a, you know, pretty Jewish clan"
Interesting way of phrasing it
>>76084111
I mean yeah when it comes to right on right talk, when i'm in my NatSoc safe space, i'm open to addressing my concerns.
But if i'm discussing Trump with an IRL normie, they don't need to hear me wondering if he's a crypto-jew, and then having to explain what a crypto-jew is, and then why being a crypto-jew is bad.....
>>76083598
Do you see "be a cuck"?
Or worship a kike on a stick?
There is no single allmighty god
there is no church as such
there is no magic unquestionable book
there is no evil
life is circular
That is not christian at all
with kindness I can agree.
But these points....
>Truth
Satan literally means truth on Sanskrit, and he is the bad guy in the bible.
Also Lucifer means bringer of light
The Serpant on the tree of life also had to do with truth as far as I know.
>Honour and courage
Since when these are christian values?
For me christian values are those witch are described in the bible.
>>76084111
>Christianity incorporated many pagan ideals, traditions and holidays.
It did not incorporate anything since at that time when it reached Europe christianity was a newborn religion, and a lot of things that you consider now part of it were added to it later by the europeans themselves, who adopted the religion and basically made it what it is today. It was the western scholars and monks, not the jews, who made this faith, and that's why neopagan cucks like you who claim that it's "le middle eastern jewish cult" are flat out wrong. You call yourself true europeans yet you know shit about european history.
>>76080700
I did, because It's true and you are some retarded child who follows a tide without knowing what the thing you say mean.
I only care about the Truth, and as I said in the other thread, you only care about arbitrary things.
Europe is a piece of land. you can correlate it to anything you want, but it is, has been and will be a piece of land. Which by the way, is filled with degenerates. Enjoy your degenerate piece of land while I enjoy the Truth and principles
>>76078864
The Soviets tried to create a unifying "Soviet Man" identity throughout their empire - nationalism was not acceptable.
The nationalism present in Eastern Europe today is more of an intense reaction to and rejection of Marxism in all its forms.
The video is wrong in presenting communism as any kind of traditionalist or pro-national ideology, although it certainly has a point in its view that capitalism/globalisation undermines national identity.
I would, however, attribute this more to the materialism that is rampant in the west now - due to the rejection of traditional morality (Christianity) by most of the population.
>>76083576
>Your arguments are wrong because x y and z you nigger
not ad hom
>Your arguments are wrong because you're a nigger
ad hom
>>76082643
>Just to note, the "capitalist" countries (which is very fucking debatable considering the hyper-regulatory states they live in) he points out have 100% monopolies on the education system even to the point of banning homeschooling, and the state run schools (based off of the Prussian system) are designed for the specific purpose of brainwashing them.
>declaratory sentences without actually backing it up with evidence or reason
hmm
>>76083466
Except I don't think anyone in the history of mankind has willingly invited invaders and then gave them money for free, taught them how to fuck their women etc.
>>76084656
I see retars like you that reject the Truth that is in front of them.
Please, learn what the word kike means and its origin. I think it would apply to you very well.
All those things you observe are a consequence of their falsehood, and why they crumbled the moment Christianity appeared.
You don't understand what God is, nor the Church, nor the Bible, nor evil, nor life, of course, whch you call "circular" to feel DEEP.
Satan is evil. If your best defense of Satan is "w-well, Satan means this and that".The Serpent on the tree, which you don't understand either, had to do with pride and sin. Your view of Satan as some kind of misunderstood poor little boy is laughable.
>>76076033
Varg is a fucking retard who knows fucking jack shit. People listen to him because he's a fucking murderer, not because of his mental capacity. Fucking useless piece of shit sub-human. Should have been fucking executed long ago.
>>76076033
Woah, after all this time of taking Stef-brand redpills, I feel like I just took an advanced red pill. I don't think lolyneux will recover from this, his descent into madness will probably get worse.
>>76079475
kys gook
>>76076033
>cultist btfo other cultist
top kek
>>76084656
Nice meme understanding, I'm not gonna engage in theological debate with some halfwit from /pol/, I know better. Let's just see how much your "le noble savage viking" tales help you with postmodernist rot that destroys western society.
>Since when these are christian values?
Since Europeans made them christian. Godefroy de Bouillon was catholic, you know.
>>76076546
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91YLkT2I66E
First there is this video made by truly noble ULTRA white specimen. He (Molyneux I think) deleted the reply saying "sigh my mother was not Jewish" on the "I'M DISAPPOINTED 'COS DONALD TRUMP"-video.
Molyneux is a layman, it doesn't matter. Molyneux is depressing, like TYT, like Alex Jones.
>>76084656
>>Honour and courage
Ask that to the millions who died in he second war stupid piece of shit
Varg is a psychotic pagan pyromaniac
>>76078086
Kek. What a load of bullshit. Capitalism is just an economic system. The second reich was capitalistic for example.
He made a correlation between capitalism and degeneracy. Where does he prove that this correlation exists? Where does he say "this is why capitalism is making gay parades popular"?
No, he just assumes it and then continues on for a few minutes talking about how bad it is.
not an argument, desu.
>>76083466
Both are survival of the fittest, but it's understandable if the loser whines about it.
>>76085069
Correct
>>76083703
What's there to colonize about a fucking desert? That's like saying that Antarctica was never colonized, because the polar bears resisted jewish influences.
>>76084126
>non ironically believing that the Jews can't fail
>>76078864
Not really. Is totally irrelevant. The German Reich was Capitalistic. So is Japan and they havent lost their traditional values. Confussing liberalism with capitalism is mistake
Molyneux does not want total open discussion. His 'Jewishness' doesn't define his """"""prowess"""""" or thinking, like stormfags irrationally believe.
He is just a deluded ideological contrarian.
>inb4 nod an argumend hahahaha
It's curfew now so back into the trash you go
>>76080779
NOPE
someone linked to him admitting it here
>>76084679
>not the jews who made this faith
Christianity is Abrahamic. No Judaism, no Christianity. Stop the mental gymnastics.
>You call yourself true europeans yet you know shit about european history.
This is your Christian European history
>Teutonic Knights and other Christian leaders attack Europeans for being pagan
>Saxons slaughtered
>Old Prussians slaughtered
>Lithuanians slaughtered
>Livonians slaughtered
>Estonians slaughtered.
>also attacked other Christians
> Catholic Poles and Russian Orthodox Slavs
>lose Crusades against Saracens
>Sack Constantinople
>Muslims had to be defeated by the Mongols
>Albigensian Crusade
>Failed the Balkans and the Turks take over
>Thirty Years War
>30-40% of German population killed
>>76085583
>>76085588
An economic system which allows those with the most profit to subvert society. Capitalism allowed the Jews out of the ghettos to become extremely wealthy.
>>76085721
The Second German Reich was was aristocratic, with heavy government involvement. The Third Reich was National Socialism.
>>76080642
>Europe was doing fine before Christianity.
Without the church in the middle ages,Europe would have fallen to Islam,and would have become an irrelevant region. Christianity gave cohesion to a broken basket,and allowed it to flourish.
>>76076669
He has an ASMR inducing voice and he plays his runescape ambient white power music over them which increases the comfy factor.
Varg pls be my dad.
>>76085355
>Since europians made them christian
you arent serious are you?
What you christians do, is whenever you find something positive, you call it christian. Thats it.
You make a worthless word out of "christianity" and still call it devine. Its a word to controll people, nothing devine behind it.
>>76085086
>kike https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kike
that doesnt apply to me
>you dont understand god
>your think Satan is missunderstood :XDDDDDD
>>76085442
I dont spit on any white grave, they followed pagan virtues, even if they didnt call it like that.
>>76081416
>Becoming familiar with pre-Christian again ideas led us to the renaissance, whilst Christianity gave us the dark ages.
>The dark ages and Reinassence meme.
Kek. Dont believe all the bullshit that they say. The middñe ages were just dark at the beginning. Later the European kingdoms became prosperous. Christianity saved Europe for being India 2.0,due the resistant to Islam. If it wasn't for christianity Europe wouldn't have started the age of discoveries,let alone the industrial revolution.
>>76086073
So that's all there is to European history? Your ancestors were just pitiful Abrahamics and nothing else? You must really hate them.
>>76086279
>varg will never be your creepy pedo uncle your parents tell you to stay away from
feels bad man
>>76082213
>Capitalism is a weapon of globalists
No. Protectionism was the norm in the most capitalistic country of the XIX century,the US. Globalism has nothing to do with capitalism
>>76086073
>le innocent pagan saxons and balts were slaughtered by the big bad unenlightened semites
Would you rather north european paganism was dominant you inbred norgeboo fuck?
>>76086685
>would you rather a white religion in the west or a shitskin religion in the west?
what an easy question.
>>76086279
>runescape ambient white power music
>>76086073
>Christianity is Abrahamic. No Judaism, no Christianity. Stop the mental gymnastics
Christianity was literally made in large part by europeans, like St Thomas and others. It influenced, and was influenced by european culture, and it's european in every sense, no matter how much mental gymnastics mutts like you are gonna do to justify their shitty opinions.
Also
>war is bad mkayyyxDD can't we just like live in woods and stuff xDD
Half of those things you listed aren't even caused by religious matters, just ordinary power plays like always.
Anyway, get fucked jew, no matter how much you dress in pagan clothes you still don't belong.
>>76086073
>The Second German Reich was was aristocratic, with heavy government involvement. The Third Reich was National Socialism.
Both were capitalistic m8. Ig you dont know what capitalism is dont bother discussing it. The German Reich had thriving private sector,and the capital was privatly owned. That is capitalism
>>76076033
30 seconds in and he's already lying. Stefan is not a Jew.
>>76086875>white is right
>Following an inferior religion/culture because its white
>not because you appreciate and agree with it's morals and values
I bet you think nordic architecture is superior to Babylonian or ancient egyptian structures just because one was made by whites
>Listening to a literal murdering terrorist.
>>76087218
>its impossible someone could lie to you
Based Vrag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mqd9tYjzdI
Great video
>>76087218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZkMc5bvuyQ
>>76087238
And I bet you need to strawman at least once a day or else you'll die of strawman withdrawal.
>>76087218
>>76087218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZkMc5bvuyQ
>>76087368
I don't even need his word on it. He's clearly not jewish. I can spot a jew pretty easily.
>>76078086
HIs argument is laughable. Capitalism is a system where every economic interaction is voluntary therefore both parties expect to be better off than without the transaction (they make profit). It is literally the only thing that works in the interest of the collective nation instead of one of its group that poses to be the nation itself.
>>76087461
Oh, you're just baiting
ok
>>76087432
why so triggered? Its obvious you have no explanation to why a tribalistic "white" religion is somehow more superior than a "shitskin" religion
>>76087673
He has no jewish features and he's not religiously jewish. Doesn't even support Israel. Your argument isn't there Chaim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91YLkT2I66E
>>76086163
Bullshit. Christians spent as much time killing pagans and other Christians. After the Battle of Tours rather than take back what the Moors gained in Iberia and capitalise on what his grandfather Charles Martel achieved, Charlemagne decided that it was more important to convert the Saxons (Germans), and spent about 30 years killing and massacaring Saxons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Verden
It took another 500 years to remove kebab from Spain and Portugal.
And it was ultimately the Mongol invasions that weakened the Muslims caliphates.
>>76086499
>Your ancestors were just pitiful Abrahamics and nothing else? You must really hate them
They were pagans before they were Christians. What makes some kike on a stick more special?
>>76086685
I'd rather Europeans return to their respectful religions they had before this Abrahamic filth was introduced. Also this >>76086875
>>76087051
>It influenced, and was influenced by european culture
Yes European culture such as classical philosophy, which is why I said were we doing just fine before Christianity. >>76080642
>>76087072
The Second Reich mixed market dominated by the aristocrats - still capitalistic, but not a free market. The Third Reich was also a mixed market - not Marxist and not free market based. There is a reason why fascism and national socialism is called third position
>>76087853
He's Jewish heritage is known by his own admission. But yeah, I agree that if he wasn't raised Jewish it doesn't really apply.
>>76087922
>>76087651
Capitalism always runs the risk of market failure. The system becoming an oligopoly or a monopoly, which are motivated by greed and not national interest. I am not anti-capitalist in all aspects, I support the third position.
>private property allowed
>price mechanism decides market price
>Laws are followed strictly
>workers have rights
>class co-operation
>Government intervenes when predatory pricing or market failure is apparent.
>>76087995
>zioN id
>israel
MEME
MAGIC
>>76076033
I reckon I'd share more views with Varg than with Molyneux but that video was pretty stupid desu. Horrible arguments and unjustified conclusions.
>>76076033
>Capitalism is worse because gay people have rights, minorities aren't attacked and women aren't relegated to a status of sub-servant
top kek you alt-right fags are the dumbest
I'll stick with capitalism.
>>76081786
>>76081898
Yes, but had there been no Christianity there would have been beautiful art of X subject. Christianity has nothing to do with it. Look at pre-Christian Greek and Roman art.
>>76076033
He is right about this. Capitalism leads to open borders and migration.
>>76076033
Fuck both of them.
>>76082653
Rekt.
Also, if we're talking art, medieval art art is seriously shit compared to pre-Roman art. Everything became 2D as fuck with figures staring straight ahead with giant halos. It came out of early Christian art and its shit tier.
>>76089473
>beautiful art of X subject
Art is not just about beauty. If you think that those images are great just because they show Jesus in nice colours then you are a simpleton.
also
>comparing art from two different eras
>>76083598
>No, they are foundations upon which European civilization was built later.
How far does our civilization stretch back?
What makes it uniquely Christian and not just European with a Christian facade?
What did Christianity give us that paganism couldn't?
>Unity
Not a good argument, Europeans were never unified.
>Christianity has done nothing for the west
>All the world's problem can be attributed to Christians
>They are pedos and the anti pedos
>They are big guy for you
>Christians did 9/11
>Christians are responsible for the Frankenstein communist computer god ruling from the dark side of the moon
>Remove Christians now
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2010/07/how_europeans_invented_the_mod.html
>>76089969
Show me a roman painting that could rival pic related
>Everything became 2D as fuck
Your stupid ass is probably thinking about manuscript miniatures kek, confirmed for uninformed rube
>>76087995
share sauce?
>>76087218
He is a jew
>>76087281
Fuck off you cucked bastard
>>76090204
>German Renaissance painter
I said medieval, not Renaissance.
And no, I am talking about medieval paintings, not manuscripts.
>>76086073
subversion is only possible when a large government entity is involved. with a small government, capitalism would work and degeneracy wouldn't be able to get a foothold
>>76090420
Here's some quintessential Christian art :^)
>>76088434
>oligarchy or a monopoly
only possible with government subsidies or other governmental interference. competition gets rid of those risks
>>76090420
>>76090420
not a duplicate reply
>>76090079
>What makes it uniquely Christian and not just European with a Christian facade?
That's beside the point and it the discussion. My argument was that christianty is not some foreign element but an integral part of european identity.
>What did Christianity give us that paganism couldn't?
Well, considering that paganism was so weak that it dissapeared almost altogether from our culture, I'd say it wouldn't give us much. The fact that it was eradicated so easily proves it did not have much worth in the first place.
>not a good argument, Europeans were never unified.
I'm sorry, what? I never said anything about unity.
>>76090420
>Renaissance
It's early renaissance/late medieval to be precise. And it proves my point that renaissance was christian at it's core, considering the flourishment of religious art and philosophy.
Anyway, I remain unchallenged. Show me a painting from greek or roman era that woluld be better even than those 2D stick figures. You can't of course, since painting was not that advanced back then, and it had nothing to do with religion.
>>76076033
Varg is a freeloading criminal who lives off of the French taxpayer. Lmao fuck that guy.
>>76091174
it diverges the discussion*
>>76076436
it's similiar, I don't know about Ted's ideology to say more than that. I don't think Ted's was as filled out as Varg's though.
>>76080412
Because he's a meme Lord who wants a return to pagan worship which is the most stupid shit ever
It's expected of neo-luddite though
He has very base understanding of Christian theology and how it intermingled with western thought and philosophy
Christianity may have began as something non western but only a fool would sit there and call it alien at this point
I just fucking hate luddites so fucking much
Especially ones on the internet and ones that speak English
They're always so contradictory
The only reason why cucks on this board agree with it is because theyre looking for anyway out of their current situation
Every aspect of the West is Christian in root at this point
Even the vehement rejection of religion (both Christian and none) have Christian origins
It's fine if you hate religion (even though that's retard) but don't be some neo-pagan Luddite
Also fun fact prove that Viking paganism is the true paganism of every area of Scandinavia
You can't and I guarantee you that they conquered other religions in the area
For a board that pretends to understand the intermingling of cultures some of you can be really fucking stupid
Even Rome's original pantheon was conquered by Greek religion
>>76090512
>subversion is only possible when a large government entity is involved
Tell that to Hitler, Mussolini, or the monarchist states of Europe.
>with a small government, capitalism would work and degeneracy wouldn't be able to get a foothold.
Only if your country is +95% white and implements protectionism. Paleoconservatism comes to mind, and that is against free trade.
>>76090857
You have to realise the Yids and certain corporations will use free market economics to build their wealth, only to establish oligopolies, monopolies and banking cartels, which then results in market failure - crony capitalism. Lolbertarians don't offer protection from that.
>>76076208
He's better than Varg.
>>76090992
>>76091144
>very late medieval
Let's see something from the 6th-13th centuries that rivals pic related
>Rome, 1000 years ago
>Medieval Europe, today
Not sure I agree with Varg corelating capitalism with weakness to subversion. If anything, capitalism offers no obstacles to the internationalist jew parasites.
Varg could be making a lot of better points here than simply refuting one weak Molyneux argument.
>>76091480
>Paleoconservativism is against free trade
No you dumb fuck
It's against international trade
It's pro deregulated markets and free trade within the country to build the economy
It's like you don't know American economic history before the world wars (which paleoconservatives want a return to in my country)
>>76091576
Wait so you're taking the best paintings from the very late stage of antiquity and asking me to respond with equally well made paintings but strictly from the early stages of dark ages? How about you take something from the early stages as well? Etruskan paintings? Greek vase paintings?
Oh but that wouldn't fit with your narrative.
Besides what is the point you're trying to prove, anyway?
>>76091174
>Well, considering that paganism was so weak that it dissapeared almost altogether from our culture, I'd say it wouldn't give us much. The fact that it was eradicated so easily proves it did not have much worth in the first place.
It was not eradicated easily. Christianity was born in 33AD. It took almost 300 years to become recognized in the Roman Empire, and another 350 to become official of the Roman Empire, and then the Roman Empire fell. It took well over 1000 years for Europe to become Christian. The last pagans were not converted in Europe until the 15th century - that not including the Finns.
Examples
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagan_reaction_in_Poland'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vata_pagan_uprising
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duchy_of_Lithuania
That is not to mention the various pagan uprisings and wars all over Europe caused by attempts at conversions by Christians.
>nyway, I remain unchallenged. Show me a painting from greek or roman era that woluld be better even than those 2D stick figures.
Ok, pic related.
>>76081416
>Renaissance
Set science back since everyone started worshiping Aristotle and his circles again
God damn historians don't even use the dark ages as a descriptor anymore because of how ahistorical it was
Plenty of discovery occurred between the fall of Rome and the Renaissance
The only reason it was called dark ages was because people were trying something to blame the fall of Rome on
>>76091894
>very late stage of antiquity
That is from Pompeii.
>Besides what is the point you're trying to prove, anyway?
That medieval painting sucked compared to Greco-Roman painting, until the very late medieval and Renaissance era.
There's always asshole out there trying to fuck up society for their personal gain, capitalist or not. Capitalism is just economical though, it needs to be in balance with the culture and moral spirit of the people, the people need a higher purpose and tradition and trust in their neighbors that religion and/or philosophy provides. Stef and Varg are both doing their part to provide a service for the betterment of the people even though they might be very different.
Also those previously communist countries are the strong nationalist ones now because they went through communism and understand how fucking horrible it was and will do whatever it takes to not become commie again.
>>76092055
You know the Roman pantheon isn't actually Rome's true religion right?
Why are you promoting the conquering east religion of the Greek pantheon? Are you a cuck?
>>76079723
Tbf we don't actually go on about him much. I rarely see him mentioned.
>>76091576
>Not knowing that medieval artists were working with tapestries not frescoes and the like
I shiggy
>>76092133
>That is from Pompeii.
You realize the city we can see now is what it was only in the first century AD and that all of the architecture and art belongs in that era? And you do realize that it's the 9th century since the beginning of classic antiquity? The paintings I've been posting were in fact also from the 8th/9th century since the beginning of medieval.
>That medieval painting sucked compared to Greco-Roman painting, until the very late medieval and Renaissance era.
Ughh what if I made the mirror claim and said that ancient painting sucked compared to late medieval painting, until we reach mid/late antiquity?
>>76086279
>runescape ambient white power music
someone pls link
and don't tell /mu/
>>76091174
>My argument was that Christianity is not some foreign element but an integral part of european identity.
It's not needed though. And stop denying the origins of how the renaissance came to be.
>>76091223
He lives off his farm and royalties from his books, music and RPG.
>>76091799
>No you dumb fuck
wow tough.
But yes I didn't specify it was against free trade internationally. You still didn't respond to comment about Hitler, Mussolini, or the monarchist states of Europe.
>>76092065
Apples and oranges. Science and technology has improved immensely during the 20th and 21st centuries and yet society is more decadent. Don't confuse technological advances or setbacks with moral ones.
Talking set backs, want to talk about the Christian Puritans :^)
>>76092256
You know that Christianity isn't actually Europe's true religion right?
Why are you promoting the desert Semitic religion? Are you a cuck?
>>76092055
>It was not eradicated easily
That's a matter of perspective. I consider it to be eradicated easily, especially if you know how quickly all this strong independent pagan warlords who don't need no priest converted.
>Pagan reaction in Poland
It's arguable how much it has to do with paganism and how much with growing power of the king. Still, it happend not even hundread years after the baptism of Poland, of course there would be some backslash. The same goes to the rest of your examples.
>Ok, pic related
Picking the same set of pompeian frescos is the same as me posting the late medieval paintings.
Pic realted, roman 2D stick figures. I think they suck so that means romans suck.
>people think returning to traditional life will make them happy or fulfilled
Oh I love that romanticism
Just remember kids humans were made to be sad and to suffer
>>76076033
what a fucking idiot
this video is ridiculous and you are all pathetic cucks
if you think capitalism is worse than socialism go live in serbia fucking retards and see for your own eyes how life is there, what damage it has done
>>76085355
You should read up on Indo-European pagan religion (Evola, Guenon etc.) and pre-Christian European history.
>>76092975
It was awesome. You got to hunt and fuck shit. And when it came to war you got to chop and rape shit, or die trying.
If you're going to pull the "m-m-muh diseases and hygiene" card then keep in mind diseases and hygiene only ever became a problem after humans started living in close quarters by the (tens of) thousands.
>>76092647
fuck, it's like early pixel art
>>76076033
Correlation = / = Causation
He could just a well be making the Argument that slavic DNA makes you less immune to immigrants.
>>76092902
>And stop denying the origins of how the renaissance came to be
I never said anything about the origins, just how you interpret them in the wrong way. Renaissance was not some euphoric fedora time where people discarded christianity, and the newly sparkled intrest in hellenic arts only reinforced catholic faith
>>76076033
I like how he added those soothing synthesizer sounds, based varg.
>>76093266
I did, and I respect Evola and Guenon, but seriously, you can't treat them as objective source when it comes to history. This is true especially with regards to Evola, who freely reinterpreted anything he wanted if it fitted his Solar Empire Aryan Whatever theories.
>>76093237
this is australia tier shitposting. good job. not many (except of the occasional canadian) can do that
>>76093787
But he actually pointed out what's wrong with the video.
>>76079563
hi stefan
>>76093237
No what we're saying is that socialism is worse, but capitalism isn't ideal.
>>76093502
>Renaissance was not some euphoric fedora time where people discarded christianity
When did I ever say that? The renaissance brought back many ideas which Christian leaders disallowed or discarded as being heretical or unchristian. I am more against the institution of the Church than I am against Christian theology.
>>76093385
see >>76078086
>>76093686
No, there're certainly better sources for historical documentation like the 'Journal of Indo-European Studies' books.
>don't aspire to a higher standard of living because if civilization fails it would be worse than if you had a lower standard of living
What a fucking retard. I've been a /pol/ack for years and the worship of this idiot is the main thing I don't get about the rest of you. Vikernes is a dumbass.
>>76082471
>Tfw kissless blue pilled people will try to defend this
![[gg]_C_The_Money_of_Soul_and_Possibility_Control_-_05_[8515845A].mkv_snapshot_04.59_[2016.05.29_09.24.13].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7nF5F5b.jpg "[gg]_C_The_Money_of_Soul_and_Possibility_Control_-_05_[8515845A].mkv_snapshot_04.59_[2016.05.29_09.24.13].jpg")
>>76076033
by mentioning mexicans are worse than niggers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3yAulC10qI&t=25m40s
>>76087426
>>76087438
I know his mother was a jew, and allegedly that is what confirms it.but what, his anglo British father means nothing?
varg has been living under the persona of a youtuber who uploads gaming videos.
>>76087922
>Christians spent as much time killing pagans and other Christians.
Your point? Christianity made people from all of Europe unite against Islam. Without Christianity,a post Roman Europe would have lost most of its all conections,but the Church kept power in check,and the power of the curch was enough to stop a war if needed. If every region remained with its old religions,muslims would have taken over Europe in a heart bit. Look what they did with in India. The Mughals conquered an split up wealthy region, of the size of Europe, with no much problems. How can you explain that the church didnt save Europe for Islam,if we just have an example like India?
The Second Reich mixed market dominated by the aristocrats - still capitalistic, but not a free market. The Third Reich was also a mixed market - not Marxist and not free market based. There is a reason why fascism and national socialism is called third position
Both capitalistic m8. Under Nazi Germany the private sector flourished,and private capital still existed. Capitalism can be regulated,that doesnt make it less capitalistic
>>76076033
>muh traditional gommunist women
>don't worry about the aids rates and common prostitution btw
>>76088434
>Capitalism always runs the risk of market failure. The system becoming an oligopoly or a monopoly
There is no such thing as market failure. The results of the market are neither good or bad,they are neutral. If a market becomes a monopoly,is because the tendency of that product requires high capitalization to be produce. It is simple. As long as competition is allowed to enter into the market,monopolies would not necessrily be bad.
>>76091468
you
>>76094549
What's so great about this "higher living standards"? Walmart with processed cheap food? mass produced cheap junk from slave labor in the third world? drive thru fast food? holywood entertainment? Stuck like zombies in front of computers/TVs/phones? It's just to keep the free slave happy and satisfied.
I would trade all that modern "high living standard" any day for a life on a self-sustaining farm with a family in a small community.
>>76089969
>medieval art art is seriously shit compared to pre-Roman art.
Kek. It seems that you havent visit a cathedral in your life. Architecture is the highest form of art,and in medieval Europe the architecture was sublime.
>>76087853
Fucking shill
>>76095489
Yeah how dare I aspire for the best life possible for me and my family. How dare I want my children to be comfy and clean. Walmart and Hollywood's existence totally invalidates that, right?
>>76090079
>What did Christianity give us that paganism couldn't?
Unity. And a external power outside of the state,that reduced European wars a lot. You can see the relation between the fall of the influece of the Pope and the increase of wars in Europe.
