“Russia has the capability to hold nearly all NATO maritime forces at risk. No longer is the maritime space uncontested. For the first time in almost 30 years, Russia is a significant and aggressive maritime power.”
https://www.rt.com/usa/345380-us-navy-russian-subs/
OMG /pol/ wat do I so scared of teh russkies plz nato help
>russia
>navy
>rt.com
>>76040330
>rt
>unnamed sources
>gotta git muney fer dem programs
>>76040442
>lack of an argument
>obviously didn't even read the article
>burger
>>76040330
Russia will never see US coming
>>76040523
>>unnamed sources
can you even read?
THAT'S A DIRECT QUOTE FROM A US NAVY OFFICIAL YOU RETARD
“Once again, an effective, skilled, and technologically advanced Russian submarine force is challenging us,” Vice Admiral James Foggo III, commander of the US 6th Fleet, wrote in the June issue of the US Naval Institute’s magazine
>>76040618
>20 story tall """stealth""" ship designed by affirmative action graduates
Only war can settle this
>>76040330
Russia can't even react to battlefield situations in Syria in real-time.
>>76040330
Russia is on the path to war. Ignore the hohols with Russian flag who says Russia "just wants to be left alone." As if! It's pure propaganda.
Never trust a Ruskie, gentlemen.
>>76040330
Did you ever consider that maybe the U.S. purposely downplays their abilities? And it's in the militaries best interests to up play Russia, because it scares the Repubtards, which leads to the Military getting more funding.
>>76041130
>And it's in the militaries best interests to up play Russia
Not really they're just globalist that want war because Russia opposes their plans
>>76041130
Which do you prefer? Increased military budget, or losing a war to Russia?
>>76041130
Both countries exaggerate the abilities of their enemies to keep the population a bit worried about external threats desu.
Good for them, they need to keep up with Anglo aggression.
I saw a docu on russian subs recently, very interesting. Back during cold war with Reagan. The Russians were easily on par with the Anglos when it came to nuke delivery.
>>76040618
>Russia will never see US coming
Exactly.
Only the United States has advanced spy satellites that allow them to use the entire electromagnetic spectrum to monitor ship and troop movements.
OH WAIT.......
>>76040587
>Not addressing his point about the propaganda site
Anyways, Russia could cause some damage sure. Win against NATO? No. They can take on Europe, but the moment the US steps in they've lost.
>>76040880
>Leaf
It's for radar you dense cunt
I also remember seeing something here from one of the major publications, can't remember aboutone ofthe most advanced US ships close to Russia had a Rus jet fly over it and shut down all their electronics.
Pretty lulzy. Reminds of the US space pen vs Russian pencil.
>>76041811
And yet they still lost the Cold War. The secret was in the ink
>>76040829
Also in the article it's only stated the Ruskies are "closing the gap" never once was it said they've surpassed us. The source is just a US military man trying to scare people to get more funds for more toys.
>>76041567
>The Russians were easily on par with the Anglos when it came to nuke delivery.
The Russian and Chinese defense strategy is one of denial. They both simply do not have the resources they need to match the USA in the fields of air superiority, armored vehicles, naval superiority, or in other areas. Thus, their defense is predicated on the notion that they will build and field technology and equipment that will allow them to negate their enemy's advantages.
For instance, China and Russia have advanced missile technology that allows them to counter the numerical and technological superiority of American naval vessels. In other areas, they have advanced anti-air capabilities that will allow them to down any threat to their interests, and they have equal arms abilities to ensure MAD, should they need it.
Why spend the money to match forces, when you can simply just spend peanuts to render useless any advantage your opponent may hold.
>>76041759
Lol subs use sonar you tard
>>76042033
They lost because of shitty communist economy
>>76041759
>Implying you wouldn't see a 30 story tall ship the size of a small village coming with some binoculars.
>>76041811
Was a ship in the crimean sea
The US Navy and the US military are so fucking niggerized it's amazing anyone on this site bothers to defend them or thump their faggot, yellow ribbon chest about Russia.
Fuck the JewSA and it's nigger army.
>>76040618
That's just the ocean anon
>>76041715
>>76041715
there was no point and the article being on rt isn't really relevant because it just collected a bunch of quotes from the us navy
it could have been any other news site
>>76042187
Anti-shipping missiles aren't 30 storys tall though.
>>76042235
you have source? It's worth a post ITT and for future Anglo butt flustering
I tried but can't find it
why can't we just all get along?
why do people insist on sticking to their fantasies of Cold War battles?
>>76042110
Exactly. They should have made $1000 space pens instead of those shitty pencils
>>76042052
>never once was it said they've surpassed us
I never said that either
>>76042477
>why do people insist on sticking to their fantasies of Cold War battles?
You need a perceived threat to justify the military-industrial complex.
>>76040330
Cool. Under Trump, we'll be friends with Russia, and turn NATO into a counter-terrorist organization.
You'll see how little globalist stooge yurocucks' politicians opinions matter.
If you don't like it, well, our national aims are to serve the interests of America and American citizens first. Who cares what you think?
>>76042428
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html&ved=0ahUKEwifwqfMvI3NAhWkKaYKHcFnBi0QFggaMAA&usg=AFQjCNFJeACQMY0xExQESqDIhoHed5_7DQ
>>76042187
Exactly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ6yCdQkGuA
>>76040330
>haha Russia is still the USSR all their shit is rusty old shit haha
>oh no people want to leave the EU! We need to make them want to stay!
>those Russians actually have really high tech top of the line things now! Be scared everyone! It's only a matter of time till Hitler 3.5 invades! Stay in the EU and unite together against this external threat!
>no don't say anything against the millions of migrants they are not a threat to you or your way of life
Happens all the fucking time. One minute Russia is an old rust bucket living in the 70s next thing you know its the greatest threat to the West with high tech gear, just wait for the inevitable "Russian "high tech tank" breaks down in front of Putin. Punishment to come"
>>76042477
>he's never circle-jerked with fellow citizens about how much better we than everyone else
It's like you're not even American
>>76042364
That's not a fucking missile its a ship.
No one is talking about """stealth""" missiles.
>>76041438
>implying Russia won't switch positions on the whole globalization thing if they somehow are able to dethrone us
>>76042669
Can't it be both? Their navy is mostly rusted shit, but it's a greater relative threat to all the other rusty shit navies of the world
>>76042428
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/11/13/aegis-fail-in-black-sea-ruskies-burn-down-uss-donald-duck/
humm... best I could find :/
>>76042715
Meh. If we ally with Russia, who can stand against our combined might? Being the best at everything includes having the most powerful as our allies, ready to step in on our behalf.
It's becoming increasingly obvious that a good number of our European allies aren't worth the effort or the expense.
Being the best doesn't mean strongarming people into doing what you say, it's about letting them know it's in their best interest to agree without ever having fired a shot.
>>76040330
America's submarine development is a fucking shambles. Just look at how easy it was for the Astute to ghost the New Mexico and the wargame's they had with the Australians.
It's just amercian military asking for more money because scary russia is scary. And RT shows it to please pro-russian audience.
We're pathetic, plz don't invade.
>>76042627
nice.
I know how this is going to sound but whatever. I am a nuclear reactor operstor on an SSBN. Russian sub tech is primitive caveman tier rocks and sticks compared to what I work on and see other people working on.
Most of the tech behind our subs is classified, that's why news reports can't say anything about it.
>>76043372
Its okay once Trump gets elected we will liberate the EU together.
>>76042577
is there an invisible hand choking it ?
>>76042758
We're very bad at neo-colonializm. Look at soviet sphere of influence, we just kept sending weapons and money there while niggers fucked us up. Soviets build Aswan damb for Egypt and arabs BTFO them few years later. Always zero profit.
>>76043372
>invading Russia
Say what you want about our education, but we're not THAT stupid.
Picture related. It's Poland.
>>76042733
Why would you send a """"stealth"""" ship to within optical range instead of firing missiles from over the horizon?
Half their population still shits in wooden outhouses. Their spec ops suffered losses against a bunch of Ukrainians who barely had a functioning Africa tier military. Economy is the size of Italy. Yeah I'm quaking in my boots. North Korea on steroids, nothing more.
>>76043801
You know it was always a huge queston here why the fuck west fags invade us. it's not like we're rich or something. But they keep going, Poland, Sweden, France, Germany. Hurr it's summer we'll just win by november! You'll do it too eventually.
>>76042187
>>Implying you wouldn't see a 30 story tall ship the size of a small village coming with some binoculars.
Protip: You never see the other fleet in modern naval engagement, since the other fleet is 300 kilometers away. Your shitty binoculars won't see shit.
>>76043685
I don't believe in it but sure, why not.
>>76044389
>huge queston here why the fuck west fags invade us
Your nation has huge potential. Large natural resources and a big population means you're naturally a global powerhouse when you get your shit together.
And we'll probably stick with economic isolation. It worked well enough last time
>>76040330
>https://www.rt.com/usa/345380-us-navy-russian-subs/
Sounds like Russian propaganda intended to make the Cold War subs more "scary" than they're supposed to.
But the West really needs to invest in sub tech more than carriers and """stealth""" ships though. A few advanced subs can cripple an entire carrier fleet.
>>76044960
We discovered siberian resources only after ww2. Before it was just wheat, fur and wood export.
>we'll probably stick with economic isolation. It worked well enough last time
We'd just become chinese bitch that way. China'll get all our resources and military science. Stupid chinks can't even build good jet engines these days. Noone would sell them good tech yet.
>>76040442
beats your maritime forces every day
>>76041493
What a fag you've learned nothing here
Go fight and die in another Jewish war I'm sure the niggers will be right beside you oh wait no they be will be staying here fucking your "faithful" gf
>>76040330
Reminder that if you support a war against Russia you're supporting a war that causes more and more whites to die. I really can't grasp why someone would hate Russians. Would you rather fight for nato that supports the genocide of its own people? Fighting any war nowadays is stupid because you don't know if you're being lied to or not.
>>76042669
This anon is woke
>>76045443
Aren't y'all friendly with the chinks? Oil deals and economics wise?
Will Trump becoming president force your hand towards who to ally with?
US or Chinks?
>>76045499
>the cherriest of picks
>he dont even have no navy, probably our fault
FICKI
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>>76040330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLesB4EQQrI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T65SwzHAbes
>>76043800
I think we all learned the lessons that you can't teach civilization to shit-skins. Both our countries had to learn this the hard way.
>>76045937
I love Russian propaganda. It always has the highest quality.
10/10
>>76043372
Anon I'm being very serious when I say if you see faggots protesting and rioting in Moscow for shit you go down there and smash their heads with a rock
Be careful war is coming and it will up to the people to stop the globalist
>>76040880
affirmative action graduates don't do anything important in the free market if they don't have the skills
you can force a company to lose money and put people at risk of harm by hiring dumbasses and if the company puts in a racial quota all the niggers will just be given shit projects and forgotten about
>>76045861
Not so friendly, they're greedy fucks who want to expoit us economically when we're in need.
Politically wise Putin solved all land disputes (china got part of some island on a border river) and we basically can turn our backs to each other. So China can concentrate on south Asia just like Japs did in 1941 and we can do the same in Europe amd ME.
Would be nice to befriend US instead but once you deal with China you'll just turn on us again i think. When we wanted to join NATO in 1990s you told us to BTFO and our relations were very good back then.
Allahu Akbar!
The U.S. must take Monroe Doctrine now.
The U.S. must withdraw American Forces from all Foreign Countries now.
I love American99% and the U.S.
Japan, Germany and China are evil empires.
Allahu Akbar!
>>76045937
Looks like a freaking CoD commercial
>>76046434
*can't force
>>76042093
best defense is a good offense
how are you going to protect against something you've never seen before?
>>76043372
Americans are taught in public schools how invading Russia is fucking retarded. Our history classes are a joke, but the "don't invade Russia because winter is cold" meme pops up over and over and over again.
Furthermore, most high school graduates have to learn about mutually assured destruction, and we've all seen retarded blockbuster action movies that talk about it.
Don't even trip. We'll stick to proxy conflicts.
>>76040618
lmao
meme warfare """"""stealth""""" ship
>400m tall
>""""stealth"""
LMAOxD
>>76045790
This. A thousand times this.
>2012: Go die in the desert so we can have some oil goy. Oy vey, what patriotism! What heroic fighting for freedom!
>2015: What do you mean you don't want your seven year old son to explore his gender fluidity? Fucking bigoted goyim, you'll hear from my lawyer!
Everyone with any sense of right and wrong or honour and justice knows that the USA should seek to form an alliance with Russia to contest the communist superstate known as the EUSSR which currently holds 40% of /pol/ posters captive
>>76045790
>slavs
>white
>>76046971
>winter is cold" meme
Nazis literally had propaganda "winter is over and we're not dead victory soon!" in 1942. Kek.
>>76045937
>20+ million civilians dead because of the U.S. post-cold war
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OH WAIT THEY'RE SERIOUS
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
everything in that first video gave me a huge world domination boner
It's okay, Sweden has a solution for that.
>>76040330
Baltic Fleet Second Rank Captain reporting in. In hope soon we will reclaim Constantinople, smash the Turkey, take control over the Persian Gulf and establish peace, trade and prosperity.
I wish Russia would declare war on some shitskins or some gooks
>>76047302
Who do you think will be fighting them, dumbass?
And yes, they're white. Whiter than every other race on earth, besides germanics and anglo-saxons. That puts them on the top three.
>>76040330
If Russia is indeed strong, RT won't be shilling this hard. Russia is failed state, poor and dirty.
>>76040330
thats what happens when you c uck you country with mass immigration. the country with the whitess army will always win.
>>76045937
We should bring the message of truth, not this judeoasiatic propaganda.
>>76047487
>Russia conquers significant Arab clay via genocide in my time
FUCKING PLEASE
>>76047428
Geneva convention prohibits such inhuman weaponry! Damn you Sweden!
>>76040330
Elect Trump and avoid a world War with Russia.
>>76047676
>>76045937
You think Russia would accept white "refugees" that want to fight for a white empire?
>>76047756
trolling isn't illegal yet
>>76047879
how long until he's decapitated by a peaceful refugee?
>>76047955
>how long until he's decapitated by a peaceful refugee?
It's okay. They are hiding the fact that Sweden is pro-LGBT until they have subversively changed the Islamic religion. :^)
>>76047879
"trolling"
>all these Americans wanting war with Russia so they can kill more whites
Truly the niggers of the western world.
>>76047879
Maybe they should welcome refugees that way. Anyone without a hard-on gets turned back.
>>76047874
We have 14 million illegals and fifth of our population is Asian because of it.
>>76042246
Operation Human Shield
>>76048096
>thinking Sweden is being serious
g-give them the benefit of the doubt
1/7th of the US navy would rek the Russian navy
>>76048098
Nuh uh, I want to see Russia wipe out shitskins and claim their land even if it means they will eventually conquer us by becoming so huge. A fine price to pay for the continuity of the white mans worldwide dominance.
>>76048145
Damn, I would have thought you'd all be more hardlined than that on illegal shitskin migration
This reminds me of a story about Reagan. I forget when this happened exactly but basically:
During the Cold War a Russian plane was niggering about with a US plane and the US pilot shot down the Russian plane. I think Reagan was either sleeping or in a meeting during the time this happened.
Everyone was freaking the fuck out like, "Oh shit, we just started WWIII... what the fuck do we do." and eventually they remembered they'd have to alert Reagan for the next step as a response.
So some guy gets in contact with Reagan and is like:
>"Mr. Reagan, a plane was shot down."
>"Was it one of ours?"
>"No."
>"Oh, who gives a shit then. Call me back later."
Even at the height of the Cold War we knew Russia were bitches and wouldn't respond. They didn't either, just like they didn't respond when Turkey shot down one of their planes.
>"U-u-uhm... w-w-w-we're not buying your tomatoes anymore. >.> "
Then they go and bully a nation-state that is the size of Toronto, kek.
>>76048379
Maybe if you're talking about conventional warfare, however, when the nukes start flying all bets are off and all conventional comparison is moot.
>>76048480
Didn't the USSR shoot down a lot more US planes than you shooting down theirs.
>>76048415
Illegal means illegal workers or plain criminals coming to steal. They're here legally, just don't pay taxes. Building companies love to hire them.
>>76046619
ummm....wut?
>>76048415
But European Russians are universally racist and there is simple attitude to azns: cheer up and work harder Alan-eyed scum, that's Russian Federation you building.
>>76048700
look up the First Iraq war if you want a laugh almost as many destroyed coalition aircraft as iraqi
>>76048700
delete this ;_;
>>76048827
14 millions of illegals, overstayers including. Most province low quality works. Remember like in the 90s-02 it was only Ukranians and Belorussians who were coming to work here?
>>76048883
Slant-eyed
>>76042336
Do you even know what the fuck you're talking about? Are you seriously comparing RT with an average news site? Have you realized two people quit ON AIR from RT because of its bullshit? Are you fucking aware that every RT story has to go to a higher up from Moscow before it gets published?
You fucked up the moment you posted an article from that shithole """""""news"""""" agency. The same agency that said there was no Russian troops in Crimea until Putin himself fucking verified it.
>>76040896
This
We're coming for you Russia! We're gonna invade and take all your AK's and turn them into 5.56 HAHAHAHA
>>76048700
We had a funny incident with sweden when we shot down their spy plane (spying for USA of course) over the sea and then the plane that came looking for survivors as well.
>>76049126
>two people quit ON AIR from RT because of its bullshit?
To be fair those wern't field journalists, they were talking head reading report shits. It wasn't hurr you mispresent my report it was hurr me not like what i was paid to read how about I make a scene and get a job at american tv later.
>>76040330
Since the USA Military is infested with SJW,s and Trannies yes
This is totally believable
Thanks Obama
Is this now based sub bread?
>>76041759
Stop making us look bad. Marine vessels use sonar (sound) detection. Terrestrial vessels use radar (radio) detection.
>>76049401
Suck my cock, and yes prettyboy that's an invitation. USN is far from SJW, them handing us a pamphlet about not slapping girls on the butt and calling them sweet cheeks won't stop everyone from getting shitfaced and cursing every other syllable while everyone hoots and hollers like a pack of wild gorillas.
>>76042916
This desu. Most other countries dont keep their fleets as maintained as we do. Are they on par with the US? No. Are they on par with the rest of the world? Yes.
>>76042187
you'd only be able to spot them at most like 15km with optics
meanwhile those ships can fire missiles 500 miles out
you do the math, those ships aren't built to be stealth from optics because ships will never get within 50 miles of each other
>>76049227
RIP
>>76040442
Fellow burger is right, RT is shitty source for credible info.
>>76049703
Maybe if they banned alcohol you would give a fuck
Instead they just banned the military from being respectable
Enjoy your safety briefs becauses that's the only thing the military does anymore
>>76049764
they are for littoral warfare tho
>>76042033
They won, goy, there is communism in your country now
>>76050081
naval warfare is all about shooting your missiles 200 miles away before they can shoot their missiles at you
with a stealth ship you can fire your missiles and blow them up before they spot you
i dont see how this is hard to understand
What the article means to say
>Russia is an aggressive maritime environmental threat. Polluting harbors and bays with thousands of tons of rusting steel. The effects of which can barely be fathomed.
>>76040618
Is this a ruse? I just see open water.
>>76040330
and what good does it do? All of it means nothing unless they're willing to pull the trigger and gamble on ww3.
>>76040896
What's that tiny fishing ship doing there?
>>76041811
So can someone actually get some proof that the Donald Cook actually had its Aegis system shut down/jammed?
B-b-but I thought we were #1...
>>76049227
>>76040896
I live right next to 3 bases, and get to see the AC's all the time.
To see that the Brits have such a lackadaisical vessel compared to us is...well, special
Just like our relationship
>>76047086
The actual size is irrelevant because everything is tied to radar, so even if you can see the ship yourself your weapons will just spaz out insisting there's nothing to shoot at.
Which is a moot point, because you'll never see it when it's sitting a thousand kilometers past the horizon lobbing railgun shells at you.
>B-But muh satellite imagery!
Is only useful for approximate location, you can't home in on a target using still frames.
>>76047267
Fucking this. Even if the EU weren't part of the picture, the only winner in a fight between the US and Russia is China.
