Who was the best nazi? I pick Hermann Göring because he was a badass ex-fighter pilot who got pussy and had swag.
I think Rudel had the most confirmed kills of WW2
Pic related
>>76022609
A dead one
>>76022609
huh I never saw any pics of him young
he does look better
>>76023417
Himmler looks about the same though
always nerdy
>>76023526
young Goebbels looks like young Woodrow Wilson imo
>>76022609
Based Goebbels 1.0
Also I think that if Walther Weaver had survived Nazi Germany would have won the war since he believed in 4 engine bombers (unlike Goering) and that could have meant a Central Powers victory in the Blitz and in Russia.
>>76022609
mengele because reasons
>>76022609
>A degenerate drug addict who would record his angry rants and then send them out to his officers in the field and force them to listen to was a badass.
Nah fuck that cunt. He deliberately held back the 262 from being used as a bomber interceptor because he hated Galland.
>>76023792
Can you imagine these swarming over London instead of outdated Stukas?
>>76023950
>>76024005
>>76023747
Wasn't he also disabled? He had a gimpy leg or something.
>>76023851
Yeah
It would have been a whole different war if someone smarter was in charge of the luftwaffe
Reinhard Heydrich was the definition of based
>>76022609
Whoever came up with the idea of gassing jews, aswell as the one who went through with it
Rommel of course.
:^)
>>76024136
>>76023653
TIL I can vaguely pass for Goebbels....
>>76024195
so no one?
>>76024273
>>76024195
Hitler thought of it. Also Hitler was in the Trenches of WW1, got hit by a gas attack, and lived. He was a war hero in WW1.
> Sepp Dietrich hasn't been mentioned yet.
For shame.
>>76022609
>le no portrait man :^)
>best anything
Goering was shit, 0/10 would replace at the Kaiser's behest.
>>76024442
That's Josef to you, anglo
>>76024136
Very true.
Loving the photos btw.
>>76022609
I like Goerring because of his work regarding animal rights.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_welfare_in_Nazi_Germany
>>76022609
He was a fat cocaine addict and a thoroughly corrupt guy who embezzled money left and right.
>>76022609
goring was a fatass
I choose rudolf hess,he was sexy, swole and he got referred to in a joy division song https://youtu.be/ceHzceD8QpQ
>>76022609
For me it's Rommel .
>>76023747
I think I relate the most to Goebbels, especially with the quotes in his diary about his depression. Not exactly Nazi but I was reading a bit about the Silver Legion in America which sympathized with Nazi Germany. Interesting to think what could've been.
>>76023653
Thats not Goebbels, that's his father/brother. This is Goebbels when he was young.
>>76024866
>Rommel.
>Nazi.
I never understood the fascination with Rommel. Sure, he was a decent tactician but when it came to strategy, he was an idiot.
Also, a lot of his men hated him because he would just throw his men at a dug in enemy even after they had suffered heavy losses.
>>76024965
So he always looked like skeleton man?
>>76024941
USA could have joined Germany in WW1, but there was never any chance it would have joined them in WW2.
>>76025070
Pretty much. He had a
>>76025183
(damn posted before i was done)
He had a lot of health problems as a kid
>>76024548
I knew him as Sepp.
>>76024195
That would be Himmler, most of the Final Solution can be attributed to him.
>>76023819
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>>76022609
I pick Goebbels because he was a robot that made it, thus proving that we're all going to make it lads!
>>76022609
Goring was a drug addicted faggot who was responsible for telling hitler he could airdrop supplies to the surrounded troops in stalingrad, giving hitler the excuse to leave them there to die and destroying a large and experienced arm of the werchmact.
My vote goes to Erwin Rommel, although he was at best only a Nazi out of political necessity
>>76025742
Rommel is really cool. I think Walter Model is interesting too even if apparently he was really unpopular in the army.
>>76022609
Himmler.
Thought up gassing the (((Juden))) because shooting Jews on the wall was really really messy business.
I can't believe I forgot about this smug son of a bitch
>>76022609
Selfless true believer, loyal to the end.
>>76022609
only acceptable answers are
1. Erich Von Manstein
2. Heinz Guderian
3. Erwin Rommel
these guys were military visionaries and won the battle of France despite superior officers attempts to turn it into a repeat of WW1. they saw the opportunity massed Panzer formations represented and split the French armies in two.
>>76025117
I think if FDR wasn't our leader it wouldn't have been impossible. Hitler was actually really popular with Americans for a time.
Ernst Rohm.
Well known homosexual who allowed his SA members to rampage with their faggotry and debauchery all across Germany. It pissed off the proper Nazis to the point that the Prussians in the Army told Hitler that they'd back Hitler if he'd get rid of the fucking SA and it took Hitler about a month to figure it out and kill all the SA leaders without any legal approval which he got afterwards when he became the Super Nazi. Rohm was given a chance to commit suicide with a pistol but he told the SS they could fuck themselves so they shot him in the chest 3 times on the spot.
>>76024474
if only manfred von richthofen had lived through the war instead. good night sweet prince.
>>76026567
If only Hitler had let them run the whole war
What was he thinking?
>>76026374
>would encircle enemy formations with / 10
>>76026773
>yfw a sopwith camel ruined the entire world
>>76026868
Manstein's entire plan for the war in Russia involved letting the Russians take back territory, encircling them, and then destroying them. Hitler couldn't understand modern war to the point where he could conceive that giving up conquered territory was actually a prudent move, hence he fired him. Rommel and Guderian on the other hand were not generals who thrived on the defensive.
>>76025268
Such a fuckin bad ass.
Warrior in every sense of the word.
Speer for trying to convince Hitler to end the war when the game was up, attempting to assasinate him when he lost his mind and refused, went against Hitler's orders and saved vital German infrastructure from demolition during the scorched earth policy, and got off with a relatively light sentence of 20 years at Nuremberg despite using slave labor. All in all a pretty sympathetic guy who just wanted to be a great architect and do the right thing. His memoir is well worth reading.
>>76027027
>Hitler not understanding basic deception
No wonder he hated jews so much
Heydrich hands down.
>>76027217
Hummer actually would have wanted Speer killed if the Nazis won the war because he feared Hitler would make Speer fuhrer after he died
>>76025742
Good choice.
Göring was indeed a fat, incompetent bastard.
Before the war he said : " If any allied bombers should reach german soil - i shall be called " Meier" " From 1942 on he was called that way.
Rommel was an upright and loyal man, and a great general... so was Erich von Manstein.
>>76022609
I like Eichmann, he was the neighbor of my grandma until he was kidnapped by the Mossad.
>>76026970
feelsbadman
>>76027241
Hitler was an amateur general whose only success came from his hijacking of Manstein's "SickleStroke" plan as his own idea. The only reason the allies didn't assassinate Hitler was they were afraid the Germans would replace him with someone competent like Manstein who could actually win the war.
>>76026970
vR was killed by an allied machine gunner firing up at him as the Leaf flew after him shooting as well.
BALDUR VON SCHIRACH
What a badass fucking name
>>76027339
Himmler*
>>76027480
post proofs?
>>76027217
i remember reading a book by speer. if i recall correctly didnt he design/make that great eagle holding the nazi symbol in the nazi parliment?
>>76027532
allegedly
>>76027494
Hitler seemed to know a lot more about culture, history, economics, politics etc than about warfare
If he had just stuck with what he was good at (rhetoric) at let the gneerals fight the war maybe he would have one.
I didn't see Benjamin Franklin trying to run the army during the American Revolution.
>>76027622
Lol what proof do you even want? She didn't know he was Eichmann til they found him. I think he was using the surname Klement
>>76024116
Yeah, I think he had polio as a kid. He supported Nazism because he was afraid he'd be T4 otherwise.
>>76022609
Himmler, an efficient and inspiring leader who was single handedly responsible for most of the eugenics and racial purity programs. Also a badass Odinist/pagan type, but smart enough to keep it mostly under wraps.
Goering was a fat degenerate who only retained power because Hitler was too spineless to stand up to his clear failings, and Himmler found it expedient to blackmail him
>>76023151
Unconfirmed tank kills which are probably bullshit. Air-to-ground effectiveness against armor in WWII is wildly exaggerated. He did kill lots of unarmored vehicles, but that isn't all that impressive really.
Based Bubi on the other hand actually has the most air-to-air kills ever.
>>76027269
>not posting a picture of that sexy blonde beast
>>76027162
Complete badass, one of the longest-serving and most loyal of Hitler's men.
Lived until 1966. Madman.
(Is this Skorzeny on the right?)
AH. The Chief.
How the fuck has no one answered this.
>>76027811
obviously best case scenario would be a picture of your grandma posing next to a bad ass nazi neighbor in the 1960s.
>>76023151
Mölders was better
Pic related is the best Nazi to ever live bar none
>>76027925
because he fired Manstein and Guderian, forced Rommel to commit sepuku, and abandoned the 6th army to their fate in Stalingrad. His movement was great but his execution of the war was ruinous.
>>76027217
I've read it, I don't think he was in on the whole Stauffenberg thing. He doesn't seem the type who would stick his neck out that far, even if he did actually meet with them.
Still a decent guy though, who did a tremendous job considering the responsibility placed on him.
Leon Degrelle
Heydrich is GOAT.
>>76023526
Himmler is up there due to his perspectives related to religion, he wanted to do away with Christianity and instill Paganism.
The SS was a Pagan based organization.
>>76023747
Stumpy footed pansy.
>>76027721
that was actually the problem, Hitler let his "knowledge" of economics cloud his war aims. he was far more concerned with taking "economic targets" like the oil fields in the Caucuses than just taking Moscow and claiming the spoils of war after Stalin was defeated. Just because Napoleon had taken Moscow and failed, he was obsessed with not making the same mistake, not taking into account that Moscow was far more vital to the Soviet Union than it was during the early 1800s. The ghost of Napoleon hung over Hitler's decision making on the eastern front like a bad apparition
>>76027480
Damm, what did she think of him?
>>76025028
The fuck would you know about strategy or tactics anyway? Real combat is not video games.
>>76027339
>>76027582
Himmler almost succeeded in murdering him by getting him transferred to his personal doctor. He also narrowly escaped being executed since he was listed by von Stauffenberg in the proposed new government after Hitler had been assasinated.
>>76027560
One of the few who made a good impression at Nuremberg and managed to avoid getting hanged.
>>76027900
Maybe even more impressive, Hartmann never lost a wingman.
Dominance. Sheer dominance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Skorzeny
This guy 100%. Fucking INSANE badass.
>>76023151
Rudel was a beast. He was essentially a one man army who puts most action heroes to shame.
He destroyed:
800 vehicles
519 tanks
150 artillery pieces and other guns
9 aircraft
4 armored trains
1 battleship (crippled, but not sunk)
Several smaller ships, bridges and other targets.
He lost his leg in February 1945, but was flying again within a month.
>>76028506
How many undercover Nazis can you spot?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz6tBrK58u4
>>76022609
No, that incompetent fat fuck killed Dr. Todt. One of the better nazi's out there.
>>76028181
based tin-tin
>>76027642
He designed the entire Reich Chancellry including custom furniture, which was impressive given the incredibly tight deadline for the project.
>only one degrelle post
fucking
W O W
>>76024798
>hess
Faggot tried to surrender to the Bongs
Fuck him and you for even suggesting he was great
>>76028102
Anon....
The important thing isn't that AH failed.
The important thing is he's perhaps the only person in history who really, really tried.
>>76028171
He wasn't involved in the Stauffenberg plot, his plan was to drop poison gas (ironic lol) into Hitler's bunker through the ventilation shaft. But he ran into some trouble either with getting the gas, or the ventilation shaft being sealed off.
>>76026567
Have to agree w Manstein or Speer
>>76028711
Hitler is the natural result of really, truly believing in yourself. He's the original meme magician.
>>76028699
No, he literally flew over to get the bongs to surrender to Germany.
>>76028804
Hess was in love (literally) with Hitler, and was a bit of a liability by that point. Probably for the best he went away.
>>76022609
Quisling.
>>76027217
Whats interesting is most of them were tested for IQ at Nuremberg, obviously under stress and duress but they all scored in the genius rating, which obviously ruined any propaganda attempts.
The allies expected to use low scores as a propaganda tool but ate shit instead. Goerring was the highest.
>>76022609
Göring was going to face trial at Nuremberg, then mysteriously was passed a cyanide pill the day before and died with pride intact.
>>76028409
>Implying that i claimed to be better at either.
Try reading some books on the subject and you will soon find out exactly what i mean.
Try being less butthurt next time m8.
Kurt Franz because of his love for his job.
>>76028633
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEeSPc5oTcM
Rex party is based as fuck
>>76022609
>>76028992
He did face trial.
> Private Herbert Lee Stivers, who served in the 1st Infantry Division's 26th Infantry Regiment—the honour guard for the Nuremberg Trials—claimed he gave Göring "medicine" hidden inside a fountain pen that a German woman had asked him to smuggle into the prison. Stivers later said that he did not know what was in the pill until after Göring's suicide.
>not one mention of Rudolf Höss
>>76022609
personally im a fan of admiral doenitz and oskar dirlewanger
dirlewanger mostly just because he was fucking crazy
>>76029183
Oh right, he did it before the sentencing.
>>76027217
Can someone recommend a Nazi documentary that examines this or any doc that is an unbiased analysis of strategies and tactics? I just watched TGSNT, and really liked it. But I know that had some questionable theories like Hitler had no choice to invade Russia or Poland.
>>76022609
>had swag
/this
>>76028936
how?
>>76028711
i agree on principle but.. he had a serious chance of winning and lost mostly due to his own hubris.
>>76022609
I don't mean some nasty discussion or remark
AND he tried to kill Hitler and was arrested for it by the SS for high treason at the end of WO II.
>>76027721
Hitler was good at a lot of things, one hting he gets little credit for is caring about thesoldiers deeply and having quite a good working knowldge of gorund warfare.
His only problem was that while he was a pretty good strategist he had people that outghout all of mankind and were probably the greatest military minds to ever exist at his disposal but he didn't wnat to give any of them what they might accidentally percieve as too much power and he wanted to demonstrate his control.
His problem when he went from changing the nazi party of him being the figurehead and overall decision maker with everyone else taking care of their respective departments to full on Hitler having control over it all.
He didn't trust anyone else with the Reich and I honestly can't blame him, power changes people in bad ways most of the time
>>76029504
>prison camp commander
>the best nazi
>gassing starving kikes is more impressive than what manstein or guderian accomplished
yeah nah. there is a reason no one mentioned him yet. too many stellar candidates leagues above him.
>>76026488
>Hitler dubs
I agree, Goebbels is my favorite, with Goering being a close 2nd.
I'd give most anything to be able to have a few hours to speak with these great men.
>>76022609
pic related: it's Otto Skorzeny SS Nazi and bad ass operator.
>>76028585
Too many of them did the best they could to not get too close to the cameras.
I guarantee you though there were at least 50(there would have been more had he died much sooner)
>>76028506
Fuuuuuck yess
>>76029621
There's plenty of archival footage like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfRW4QH9ta8
I think there's a BBC documentary on the Trials with some cheesy re-enactments. I'd recommend just reading some books.
There's a series that also used to be on youtube on specific WWII battles. I think it was just called Battlefield. Also remember one that got taken down that just analyzed tanks of the Wehrmacht, what specs they had and how they were used.
Inside the Third Reich - Albert Speer
The Second World War - John Keegan
Nuremberg Diary - G. M. Gilbert
Nuremberg Interviews - Leon Goldensohn
The Third Reich: A New History - Michael Burleigh
are all good starting points.
>>76024195
Bibi said it was some Muslim.
Also there were no gas chambers.
>>76028953
Pretty sure Seyss-Inquart was the highest.
>>76028953
Yep
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/meetthedefendants.html
>>76028506
Absolute madman
>>76031120
Nah, Schacht was highest even after they did a bunch of kikery and revising
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/meetthedefendants.html
This is what they officially reported after they decided they were all too smart to report whiteout looking like faggots, add 10 to every score there and that's the real numbers
>>76031443
Schacht wasn't a real nazi.
>>76031443
Intersting. But I'm inclined to believe this, mostly because I don't think Streicher's IQ was only 106.
I mentioned the Silver Legion earlier which while not directly Nazi did have Nazi sympathies. Their leader was a fascinating man though and it's interesting to see how he reached a similar conclusion to Hitler through his life journey.
http://come-and-hear.com/supplement/life-of-pelley/index.html
Himmler
>>76031623
Some of them were easier to lie about than others
Had they placed those who scored higher up like Goring and others they would have called them on their bullshit and proved it making them look even more foolish and making it harder for people to believe the farce that it was already.
>>76031549
Yes the fuck he was
Man loved Germany just as much as Hitler and helped bankroll the entire thing and fix the economy
Just because he wasn't a general doesn't mean he wasn't a part of the movement
>>76032282
Galland was 10 times the man Himmler ever was
>>76028506
>was, at 6 feet 4 inches or 1.92m, a big guy
>got a scar on his face from academic fencing, which requires you to put on a mask
>embarked on several raids and often started fires and left no survivors
>did airborne operations, including using the DFS 230, which requires you to crash this plane
>was known for reliably following the master plan
>was slated to lead the werwolf movement to show the allies that the end of the war was not the time for fear, but that it comes later
>got himself caught after the war
>>76032403
Wasn't a member of the party.
>>76032779
>got himself caught after the war
And then escaped bitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y95Ss5owljE
>>76033471
rumors are he is still around, stalking refugees and tourists
>>76027900
Mein Neger.
Ante was based as well, not a Nazi but a fascist with Hitlers support.
Oswald Teichmüller, because he's the only Nazi you can openly support and study today
>>76028585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXkj_hH6uEg
wew
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No mention of this madman?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY6bGqtYD3k
>>76022609
Goebbles because he is us.
>>76036012
Holy shit, I didn't know the SS were this badass.
"Crusaders of a new religion"
This is right up /pol/s alley.
>>76030744
>blurred swastika
JUST KEK MY SHIT UP SENPAI
>>76025028
Rommel was wasted in North Africa. He never got his chance to really perform, by the time he got to France the allies already had a foothold and he had fallen out of favor with Hitler
>implying any other general would have thought in a pinch to bury his anti aircraft guns into a mountain to convert them into tank death cannons
>>76028585
Mossad spotted 0:44 seconds.
>>76037080
Well the Germans had been using their Flak cannons in the anti-tank role since France so that was nothing new really.
Yeah he was definitely wasted but the whole "omg Rommel was the greatest General ever, he could have won the Eastern front if he was there" hype surrounding him just pisses me off.
>>76029524
>dirlewanger
Wtf.
>>76029524
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Dirlewanger
kinda ruins the ideology when a literal sadist murderer and rapist is given free reign...
>>76038558
>"the Dirlewanger brigade burned prisoners alive with gasoline, impaled babies on bayonets and stuck them out of windows and hung women upside down from balconies."
lol, come on how much of this is real?
>>76038732
I could see him burning a few people alive as examples for everyone else but the rest is most likely bullshit
>>76038558
he was hardcore before hardcore existed
>>76027900
>>76028465
>>76034989
>On 21 May 1944, Hartmann engaged United States Army Air Forces aircraft in Reichsverteidigung for the first time in defence of the Ploiești oilfields. While flying "top cover" for another Schwarm, Hartmann attacked a flight of four P-51s over Bucharest, Romania, downing two, while the other two P-51s fell victim to his fellow pilots.[26] On 1 June 1944, Hartmann shot down four P-51s in a single mission over the Ploieşti oil fields.[27] Later that month, during his fifth combat with American pilots, he shot down two more P-51s before being forced to bail out, when eight other P-51s ran his Messerschmitt out of fuel.
Damn
>>76038964
he was kicked from the NSDAP and lost all his awards for raping a 14yo girl though, then later reinstated cuz buddies with himmler
>>76023747
I love this man more and more, the more I get to listen to him. He was a fucking excelent speaker, next to ofc Hitler him self
>>76022609
>Hermann Balck, who ended the war as a General der Panzertruppe (equivalent to a three-star general in the U.S. Army), is today virtually unknown except to the most serious students of World War II. Yet in three short weeks his lone panzer division virtually destroyed the entire Soviet Fifth Tank Army. The odds he faced were scarcely short of incredible: the Soviets commanded a local superiority of 7:1 in tanks, 11:1 in infantry, and 20:1 in a local superiority of 7:1 in tanks, 11:1 in infantry, and 20:1 in artillery. But Balck, leading from the front, reacting instantly to each enemy thrust, repeatedly parried, surprised, and wiped out superior Soviet detachments. Over the next few months his division would rack up an astonishing one thousand enemy tank kills. For this and other achievements Balck would be one of only twenty-seven officers in the entire war—Erwin Rommel was another—to receive the Knight’s Cross with Oak Leaves, Swords, and Diamonds, the equivalent of an American receiving two, or even three, Medals of Honor.
>>76027683
"We examined the body of Captain Baron von Richthofen on the evening of the 21st instant. We found that he had one entrance and one exit wound caused by the same bullet.
The entrance wound was situated on the right side of the chest in the posterior folf (sic) of the armpit; the exit wound was situated at a slightly higher level near the front of the chest , the point of exit being about half inch below the right (sic) nipple and about three-quarter of an inch external to it. From the nature of the exit wound we think that the bullet passed straight through the chest from right to left, and also slightly forward . Had the bullet been deflected from the spine the exit wound would have been much larger.
The gun firing this bullet must have been situated in the same plane as the long axis of the German machine and fired from the right and slightly behind the right of Captain von Richthofen.
We are agreed that the situation of the entrance and exit wounds are such that they could have not have been caused by fire from the ground."
Sgd G. C. Graham
Capt. RAMC
MO i/c 22nd Wing RAF
Sngd G. E. Downs
Lieut. RAMC.
In the Field
22/4/18
http://net.lib.byu.edu/~rdh7/wwi/comment/richt.htm
>>76039755
There really are so many badass Nazi heroes and leaders that it's understandable many are not recognized for their genius as a result. But you also have to remember that the allies did everything they could to demonise these people and seal as many records as possible
If Germany ever gets it's head out of it's ass and kills their government while removing kebab along with Austria I want them to raid the archives and uncover all the lies and insane amount of info that we have never been privy to because of the jews
