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OFFICIAL POLL TRACKER RESULTS:
>ONLINE POLL
LEAVE 41%
REMAIN 41%
NOTE SURE 13%
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36271589
>OFFICIAL ESSENTIAL BRIT/POL VIEWING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UCm6LNj7P0
>UKIP POSTER SPOTTED IN BUCKINGHAM PALACE. HER MAJESTY CONFIRMED RED PILLED
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/570547/Queen-Ukip-Nigel-Farage-Buckingham-Palace-Elizabeth-II-Royal-family-London
>COMMIE CORBYN SABOTAGES REMAIN CAMPAIGN
A B S O L U T E - M A D M A N
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/7189294/Remain-campaign-in-chaos-after-Jeremy-Corbyn-attacks-Project-Fear-and-dismisses-anti-Brexit-forecasts-as-hysterical-hype.html
>EU ON SUICIDE WATCH. ABANDON EU SUPERSTATE UTOPIAN DREAMS SAYS TUSK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36429331
>WE 1984 NOW. EU I.D CARDS WILL BE NEEDED TO SIGN UP TO FACEBOOK
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/02/former-commie-ec-commissioner-calls-people-log-onto-youtube-national-electronic-id/
>Angela Merkel says she hopes UK stays in EU - THIS WONT BACKFIRE
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36436726
>NIGEL PUTS £1000 BET ON BREXIT AT 5/2
https://twitter.com/UKIP/status/738353996352618496 (embed) (embed)
>Terrorists “Stockpiling Explosives In Europe,” Europol Official
http://i-hls.com/2016/05/terrorist-stockpiling-explosives-in-europe-europol-official/
>Tory election win over Nigel Farage could be 'void' due to expenses scandal, judge rules
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-election-win-over-nigel-farage-at-south-thanet-could-be-void-due-to-expenses-scandal-judge-says-a7060791.html
>BERCOW TO CALL MRRRR FAAARAAAGE, WHEN??
Isabel is a 10/10 qt
>>76002991
First :^)
saying Gove did extremely well.
G O V E - I S - O N - F I R E
C A M E R O N - I S - T E R R I F I E D
racist on da street
walkin on ya feet
when da bobbies on da beat
when ya did da hate speech
its da O sixteen
havent u heard
what u expect to happen
when u say da nasty word
more high praise
F L U S T E R E D
F A I S A L
>>76003151
Good old Nige'
If you haven't watched sharpe you are literally not british
Why did the Indian man act like elitism in the remain side was such a ridiculous notion.
It's not happening, retards
https://softleftpolitics.com/2016/04/17/leaves-hypocrisy-on-our-public-services/
I was disappointed by this. I don't know why, but for some reason I expected more out of British debates than I do American ones. This was just as bad as some of the worst of ours. The brown man kept interrupting Grove (sp?), and then immediately either misrepresent or obviously misinterpret what Grove actually said when he was able to say anything. And then all of that unprofessional, snide behavior.
Is this typical of British debates or interviews?
I'm so sad Boris isn't the face of the Leave campaign. He is far better speaker and has some sweet banter skills.
But to the point... The thing is, it will all go down, in the minds of normies, to this:
Gove (literally who?) vs Cameron
&
Immigrants vs economy
And I think the choice will be easy for some average Brit (like e.g. Mohamed Mohammed) to choose current economy and a familiar gob of Cameron than immigration problems and Gove.
>>76003246
Watched it first time around . . .Brilliant.
>>76003094
Dave was my fave but I guess I'm a /michaelbicycle/ now
>>76003176
>NO WEBSITE?
>DOESN'T EXIST
>>76002991
what is the music for the Independence video from?
All reasonable divorces should be carried out without regard to the financial settlement.
Otherwise it's just looking for some cash.
>>76003301
>Is this typical of British debates or interviews?
No. Literally nobody knows that little sandnigger. This is sky, too, BBC debates are much more "British".
>"If you vote for me i will take you out of the European Union and i will also take you out for some great curry"
>>76003301
You posted this yesterday you faggot
Hannan said he wants gove to be PM in his interview with Owen jones
>>76002991
Daily reminder if you vote leave ur a racist
>>76003151
>PM: Boris
>Chancellor: Gove
>Home: Nigel
hnnngh
>We lost nearly 2 million men...and women
YOU
FUCKING
KEK
>>76003315
You dont have a website so fuck off
Isabel looks quite similar to Hitchens.
I think I love Isabel /pol/
she's so fucking cute
>We lost nearly 2 million men..... and women....
doubt there were any women in the first world war
Isn't this blonde qt the one who wrote Call Me Dave?
>>76003327
What was this in reference to? I missed it
>audience is representative of the UK
>majority of the audience are blacks, asians and arabs
disgusting
>>76003379
You would know about Muslim food wouldn't you Sweden.
>>76003246
my nigga
>>76003301
>Is this typical of British debates or interviews?
Typical of a subscription-based pro-eu commercial news station
Watch Paxman, question-time etc for proper debate
>>76003315
Goves done us proud
>>76003457
Didn't you hear? Women are the primary victims of war.
Who is Tits McGee?
>>76003301
usually british political interviews are the host hammering whoever is being interviewed in order to try to get them to slip up or whatever
however this has evolved more into hosts just shitting on and ignoring the answers from interviewees and getting away with it because to plebs it just seems like more of the same banter
instead of putting pressure on whoever is being interviewed to trip them up its turned into just piling shit on them and not letting them get a word in
>>76003548
It's obviously not a representative though is it
>>76003453
she's 41
41
>>76003134
Deep
>>76003379
Teeth says British, Stench says poo in loo
>>76003442
>>76003453
You know shes 41 years old? She looks a good ten years younger.
>>76003301
>unprofessional, snide behavior.
That's what makes it good! If you don't like it, then fuck off. We don't like or want uppity yanks in this thread anyway.
>>76003548
>audience is representative of the UK
Even you don't believe that
>>76003315
>Gove (literally who?)
That's a good thing. Cameron has already pissed off a large proportion of the electorate, where as Gove is reasonably clean.
>>76003558
actually the extent to Muslim food in Sweden is bascially Kebab drenched in fat
well unless you go home to muslims and eat their food, buying it at resturants isnt your best bet senpai
>>76003246
>tfw never watched all of them
>tfw everytime I start from the beginning I get distracted by seomthing else and never finish
>>76003301
>Is this typical of British debates or interviews?
Yes
But there are elite Interviewers and then there are ones who are just abusive idiots
Paxman and Neil are best lads, also John Humphreys
>>76003441
B-b-but I wanted to vote leave... and I do exist :(
>>76003548
Watch yesterdays with Cameron, all white audience that wanted to vote out.
This audience was an all "in" audience, survey was conducted recently that the majority of those that want us to stay in the EU are pooskins.
>>76003558
>Priti Patel Muslim
She's hindu you plonker
>>76003839
If you exist then where's your website?
>>76003832
Brian Walden was the master, even in an age where more deference was shown. A Labour man yes, but a great interviewer.
>>76003839
I dont see a website, bruv
>>76003378
I think I'll wait to watch anymore British debates until the BBC hosts them then.
>>76003407
Not me. I'm obviously not the only American surprised by this.
>>76003597
Thanks, will do.
>>76003558
>Patel
>muslim
You'll have triggered a good few poos with that claim.
>>76003861
Most shitskins want REMAIN because it will upset Nigel who they think wishes to have them gassed or sterilised.
REALLY want to drink isabel oakeshott's milk
>>76003885
>you plonker
i love your people
Are Sky "impartial"?
>>76003301
>Is this typical of British debates or interviews?
If politicians are involved, then yes.
>>76004161
Is anything?
>>76004070
>you will never have your head between those puppies
Womanlet, Menopauselet
>>76004070
She looks like she has dried up milk ducts lad
>>76004161
Yes, they're impartial to my katana or words.
>>76003885
Who gives a fuck, it's a shitskin
>>76004161
They are owned by Murdoch???
But less biased than the BBC
>>76004161
KEK
>>76004161
Rupert Murdoch is an upstanding warrior for truth.
I remember the website question from earlier but what was it a reference to?
>>76003253
>Immigrants and Immigrant workers are the exact same thing
Yeah of course there isn't a single somali man living off the benefits of his 3 or 4 wives and none of them work, that never happens and no immigrants are taking up houses or hospital beds or commiting crimes jesus flying fucking christ on a bike in cuck shed on toast desu senpai famalamadingdong cunt.
>>76003762
I don't know how that could be considered good. You could barely hear Grove talk. The interviewer could have at least waited until he said a full sentence before questioning him again, and save the snide behavior for when it was deserved.
>>76003548
>not understanding that BTFOing """minorities""" live will prevent white self-flagellating libfag from being able to argue against voting Leave
>>76004306
The pen is mightier than the sword
en garde faggot
>>76004070
>REALLY want to drink isabel oakeshott's milk
She would probably be ok with that, she looks like a top slag m8
>>76003088
Don't post my politicfu without my permission please
>>76004161
>Are Sky "impartial"?
>>76004432
>The interviewer could have at least waited until he said a full sentence before questioning him again, and save the snide behavior for when it was deserved.
I agree . . .this 'interviewer' was an asshole.
what happened to isabel hardman? she last tweeted over a week ago. Used to see her every week as a political pundit but she's fallen off the face of the earth
>>76003671
>>76003774
>>76003861
Yeah it was just funny how they were trying to convince people that blacks, pakis, arabs are actual brits.
there was an audible kek from my family when the paki woman said that multiculturalism is one of the best things about Britian, we were all wondering what part of Rotherham she was from.
I think the audience choice almost went against them though,because Gove did brilliant in comparison to Cameron regardless of how much a set up it was, now the commentators are trying to demean his arguments because he didn't hit the public over the head with facts and figures or spoonfeed them.
Post the ugov/sky/twitter polls for le legion
>>76004613
Assassinated by Meninists
>>76004432
If you didn't realise Gove was talking over him too.
Besides, if the interview did that it would sound autistic as fuck. I wouldn't expect Americans to know that though; after all, many of you haven't had a real debate and so don't understand how much you talk over the other person because you want to get your point across.
>>76004581
He's not arsehole for that reason.
>Gove gives clear answer
>IM EVEN MORE CONFUSED
fucking women
>>76004473
> she looks like a top slag m8
desu the nigger tier extensions do indicate that.
MRA CONFIRMED
>people think isabel is attractive
fucking mong
https://eurometer.news.sky.com/
>these fucking shills
>>76003088
I would do nasty things to her
>>76004734
I disagree completely, it's Ok to be hard hitting (like Paxman or something) but he went too far and it was clearly apparent.
Thy welsh lad was huge
>>76004117
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwDBZuHw7l8
>>76004908
Is this just showing a blank page to anyone else?
THICK
>>76005052
works for me...use different browser
I've met and bantered lefties with Jacob Rees-Mogg
I truly believe that all of these 'undecided' voters are just people that would (and come referendum day, will) vote out, but they have been manipulated by project fear into re-considering.
Still, like I said, come referendum day, when they've all got their ballot papers in front of them, they'll overcome any fears they've had imposed on them and cast an out vote.
I think a lot of in voters will also jump ship at the last minute. If you talk to people, there is an awful lot of pessimism coming from the remain voters. Their reasons for voting in come entirely down fear of change and risk taking.
In that final moment of contemplation when they're about to cast their vote, I believe they'll all think fuck it and vote out. Only a coward would rather live on their knees, than die on their feet. You all know what I'm saying.
You want change? This is our chance.
>>76003134
why the fuck was he on the Peaky Blinders if he hates Britain so much
>>76004998
I don't think he went too far, but suggesting they should take their turns sounds autistic and unnatural. I would only expect a yank to think that debates concerning the future of the country should flow like a computer's binary system. It's much better when they act natural since it means more one-liners and banter; you'd never have the 'you don't exist if you don't have a website' in American debates.
>>76005052
I see this
>>76004908
>OTHER
>>76005282
I can see where you are coming from and I agree.
But I still think he went a little OTT mate.
Dominic Raab is really fucking sexy.
Would let him suck my cock.
>>76005400
>OTHER
kek
What a world we live in eh?
>FACTS
>FACTS!
>GIVE ME THE FACTS
>I NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN!
>PLEASE TELL ME!!!!!
>HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL LOSE THEIR JOBS????
>HOW MUCH WILL HOUSES COST???
>WHY DON'T YOU KNOW????
>USELESS!!!
>>76004432
The point of the snide behaviour is to rustle the interviewee and get them flustered
If you just let them talk they will just reel off prepared speech after prepares speech like they have been trained to do by their PR men
It's all about being just snide enough to annoy them and get their guard down without turning the whole interview into a shitflinging contest
>>76002991
Oh jesus. I am watching Gove now.
GOVE BURNED TO THE GROUND
FAISAL ISLAM ROYALLY FUCKED HIS ARSE.
GOVE FAIL GOVE COLLAPSE
BREXIT MFW...kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ7wTAHdFYs
>>76003253
Hold on a second I cannot actually comprehend if I'm in real life or a deranged soap opera coma fantasy.
>Polling shows the success of this narrative. Only 21% of the UK public believe that EU workers in the UK are more of a benefit to Britain than they are a cost, whilst 53% believe their costs outweigh the benefit of their residence (The Migration Observatory, 2015).
So?
>For 44% the term ‘immigration’ evokes negative feelings and a recent YouGov poll (11-12 April) found 32% believe it would be ‘good’ for the NHS if we left the EU, whilst only 14% thought it would be ‘bad’.
Good, they should believe these things.
>However, EU migrants make a net fiscal contribution of £2.5bn to the UK Treasury (The Migration Observatory, 2015).
>EU migrants
>EU migrants
>Only 2.5 billion
>That is, they not only ‘pay’ for the services in kind and cash transfers that they receive, but also provide an additional £2.5bn in taxation as well.
>'pay'
>additional
>net
>somalians
>arabs
>numbers
>words
>the ride never ends
>>76005593
Oh look, it's you again.
You're not fooling anyone ITT we all watched it and Gove rekt Islam and CamCam.
Deal with it Mugabe you stinky nigger.
>>76004908
Remember to LIE, claim your a highly educated young woman, it'll help
>>76005593
Islam was literally booed after Gove was through with him.
>>76005593
I assume thats sarcasm?
Faisal "pro pedo" Islamist was literally BTFO, he made a fool of himself and acted very unprofessional. Gove did much better than Cameron and persuaded more undecideds.
12/10
G O V E - I S - O N - F I R E
>>76004908
>following on from naming me a nationalist
SAY IT WITH ME
SAY IT WITH ME
PRIME MINISTER
GOVE
O
V
E
>>76005213
Nope, they are people that are 100% voting out but don't want to say.
>>76005933
>20%
Assuming there's more than 5 results, that's pretty big.
>>76005713
hahahahahahaha
hahahahahahaha
denialist. we must have watched different programs.
Gove found his nice sounding rhetoric rumbled. no economists no nothing.
ahahahaha
Dude got wrecked on the economy topic. I'm now strict remainian. Bless EU, Juncker and Merkel.
Does the 'right' wing and Murdoch press in this country. Want a brexit.
Telegraph
Sun
Times
They seem fairly neutral. Maybe they just don't want to be biased and alienate readers.
>>76005803
ohhh. look using a dindu's victim defence. I thought he had an argument. ahahahaha
>>76006162
YOU AGAIN
Consensus is that Gove did extremely well, after a night where Cameron dismally failed on the same exact stage.
>>76005879
yes yes, a pedo wrecked that manwoman gove.
I should support a weakling like gove, i should foster him in my bossum because he's a victim. go to bed mate.
>>76005400
for the love of god...
>>76006239
Murdoch just wants it for all the fat stories he can print out nothing more nothing less.
He's stopped giving a fuck about being the puppeteer.
Oioi.
>>76006162
>ahahahaha
Steady on Bantu Bob, you'r not supposed to laugh at your own jokes
Stop replying to or about the blatant shitposters in any way shape or form. Giving them atttention just encourages them to come back
>>76006246
fuck off you cunt. stop shilling for a totalitarian soon to be militaristic superstate.
You are irrelevant to this debate.
>>76006246
It's about winning over the public. The audience was savaging Cameron, they were applauding for Gove by the end.
This argument isn't economic. Economies boom and bust. Brexit is about the right to self-govern - an argument people are responding to. Nobody wants to live in an undemocratic society unless they're one of the elites. Fortunately the people voting in 20 days are not the elites.
What did he mean by this?
>>76003783
>Gove is reasonably clean.
The teachers union would like to have a word with you
>>76006299
bringing the light from darkest africa. fuck i thought having a president who couldn't count was bad, but i can see that a gove in number ten would be pure comedy.
But, what do polls look like once you remove all the Eurotrash who obviously vote in polls?
I think most of the Remain polling is a huge facade at this point
Seriously, why do tories do this?
>>76006516
What did he mean by this?
>>76006516
maybe it's their equivalent of the animation T-Pose when the uplink to Lizard HQ fails
>>76006371
Extremely is a stretch. He did well, yes, and much better than Cameron but he looked too soft on some parts, particularly the 350 million figure. Also him praising multiculturalism was disgusting. I know he said it to avoid stigma but that doesn't make the statement itself any less sickening.
>>76003246
The books were good too;good casting choice with Sean Bean even without the scar.
>>76006555
The teachers union are a bunch of cunts desu
>>76006555
Compare him to Cameron. Pissed off teachers don't mean shit.
>>76005216
discriminashun
across da nashun
get dat racial represanation
on de television
>>76006437
I'm laughing at your jokes...I mean arguments. It's too precious....
>>76006728
they're lizards
>>76006050
>tesco mobile
Absolutely pleb tier
>>76006679
Kek
>>76006644
*teleports behind you*
LEAVE NIGEL TO ME
>>76005209
You forgot to say (no homo)
>>76006644
>>76006675
>>76006679
He's about to show his Stand
>>76006770
3 masterrace.
>>76003365
https://youtu.be/NUIZvAe3RBg
Here you go friend
It's the part at about 4:45 onwards
>>76006466
this thing has you so wound up you are forced to a) behave ungentleman like and b) pretend that you cannot see the utter fail that gove just pulled off.
it's unbelievable. would be tragic if it weren't so funny to watch.
>>76006375
Nobody is asking you to vote for or support Gove in a general election you fucking muppet. He made that perfectly clear during the debate as did other "out" campaigners throughout the year that it's not about inter party politics or where you fall on the political spectrum.
>>76006497
nothing undemocratic about the eu. face up to the fact.
>>76006858
Full homo
>>76006644
>>76006675
>>76006679
He wants to be a big guy
>>76006679
Ayy lmao
>>76007036
Fairly sure Gove blew that delusion straight out of the water.
People want control over their politicians. You seriously misunderstand this country if you think this isn't resonating with everyone. Even shitskins who come from totalitarian shitholes.
>>76007036
>south africa
>grasping democracy
of course
>>76006220
Go eat salmiaki yer chink.
>>76007002
he's a fucking manwoman. he doesn't have a position. he sounded like his mum from the 50's and I quote "and he's done quite well thank you very much"...just empty insinuation and anecdotes about his old man. Faisal rumbled him good 'n proper.
>>76002991
Do any of you truly feel the vote for leave will be successful or will it be snatched at the last second by the pro EU crowd
>>76007036
Nothing undemocratic about oligarichic rule.
Democracy was, in the end, never meant as anything but a cover for the Oligarchs untill they'd destroyed the kind of unity that was the only possibility of puting up effective resistance against it.
>>76006728
Imagine her dancing seductively whilst straddling you with her powerfully wide stance
Rock hard
>>76005658
what are you on about
>'pay'
>additional
>net
>somalians
>arabs
>numbers
>words
>the ride never ends
wish our Peter would get involved, his been holding his own against all panels and 'neutral' audiences for so long it'd be nice to see him go with a few allies.
Ladies and gentlemen. Please rise to greet your new Prime Minister.
>>76007484
>imagine being arnold in that scene
Fuck off /tv/
>>76006728
>>76006675
It's called POWERSTANCE
looks fucking stupid and doesn't work. Note how a person who has a truly powerful presence doesn't do that. (Trump)
someone put all of those stances into one image.
>>76007002
>Deputy childrens commissioner involed in Rotherham
>Actual childrens commisioner Anne Longfield behind 5 year olds in Brighton being given 20+ gender options to choose from without parents permission, also bitch was ex Blair inner circle.
Why do women despise children?
>>76007345
ur argument stronk.
if fact gove is now saying that instead of whites from europe coming from europe he wants more Caribbeans and other commonwealth folk to come over. I would choose very carefully mate - they gonna flood u with nigs from the commonwealth....kek
>>76007626
it comes across as fairly confrontational
JUST
>>76006555
Teachers are eternally butthurt it comes with the territory
>>76007581
Whats his most recent debate?
I saw a pic of him on twitter yesterday at one vs Clegg is it online?
>>76007604
It will be Theresa May and you know it.
>>76007002
Also
>Berelowitz
>>76007581
This faggot is busy pissing himself and hating on the referendum. Fucking dumb nigger.
>WE NEED TO LEAVE
>Here's an opportunity to vote leave
>I'M NOT VOTING
fucking dickhead just wants to complain and be a cunt
>>76002991
Remain side confirmed for cheating
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36446521
>>76007478
read the wiki pal. its democratic, the fact that you're too drunk to vote is your fault.
>>76007780
>MUH I WANT TO BE ON PERMANENTLY HOLIDAY LIKE THE ITALIANS
>>76004257
fights for leave, would offer her what she desired
>>76007581
H E ' S - B A C K
>>76005658
ur just mad because you hate immigration
>>76007869
didnt see that, will have to have a look.
>>76007929
The only bit of it anyone can vote for is the Parliament, which has no actual powers. It can't initiate new legislation and there are some legislative procedures by which it can be just straight up ignored.
>Source: Just finishing a law degree
>>76008146
Anyone got a link to this?
OMG did manwoman gove pluck his eyebrows...? Sorry I can't stop laughing....
>>76008229
> Spend a year studying those fucking treaties
> Leave the EU
I know that feel, anon.
>>76007912
It will only get dirtier.
>>76008436
Your banter is weak SA. Step it up.
GOVER?
Normie nicknames confirmed shit.
>>76008229
it can initiate new legislation. read the wiki.
as for being ignored he uk parliament can also be ignored and over ridden...starchamber, house ( sorry hise) of lords and the courts
>>76007929
The fact that public preception sways a majority of the electorate. Rather than policy or ideology, is part of the design of modern "liberal democracy".
This makes media and the banks rule the liberal democracy through their power to shape the public preception of the parties and their canditates.
Women play a key role here as their more emotional character makes them more vulnerable to media manipulation. Which is why they were enfrancised in the first place.
Democracy is a way to conceal who rules, and a system built to prevent change. It has largely been sucessfull at that since it's foundation.
>>76008650
Should have been Gove'nor
Swedish femanon here. So excuse my bad English
>Boris Fuckson
>Nigel Thornberry-barrage (whatever the fuck his name is)
>this Gove person
>some other fuck with harry Potter glasses and a double barreled name
>some skinny bald guy
These are embers of the patriarchy. Why aren't you stopping them?
I dint like David Cameron but here's we we need to stay
>EU is proving that social democracy works
>EU is bringing European countries closer together, more than eve lr
>EU offers a living and even a loving to third worlders
>EU us finally censoring online harasment
>EU is offering gender equality
Seeeing these anti EU and nationalism growimg in this country makes be feel uncomfortable, and it scares me.
There are other great parties you can follow. Ever heard of the green party? Ba party who wants peace.
>>76008660
> read the wiki
Read the treaties you idiot. Article 225 TFEU. Fucking Wikipedia. Get the fuck out.
>>76008830
bait is far far far too obvious
return when legal age to browse this site.
>>76008830
fuck off paki
>>76006426
>average age 55
Why
>>76008830
Are you trying to bait us into replying to you for baiting?
Either way here's your (You).
>>76008638
His not South African, his Swiss. Ask him a simple question about rugby he can't google.
>ignore SA
>>76008830
>femanon here.
Welcome newfriend.
Tits or GTFO
>>76008830
>Nationalism scares me
Fucking pathetic, if you can't be proud of your nation, fuck off.
>>76008660
>as for being ignored he uk parliament can also be ignored and over ridden...starchamber, house ( sorry hise) of lords and the courts
1) The courts can't override Parliament
2) The House of Lords is part of Parliament, so you're saying Parliament can override itself?
You don't know what you're talking about.Stop telling me to just "read a wiki" instead of providing your own arguments.
i need more brexit memes. can you anglo bros help me out
>>76008830
Go back to Sweden and get raped by a subhuman sandnigger. Hope he knocks some sense into ya.
>>76008638
no one looks impressed. the white guy in the middle is thinking 'you are having us on mate', the guy behind him is thinking 'fuck i came to c this shit while i could be down the pub' the guy on the left in the blue jacket is just flat out not impressed. this is just funny
>>76008229
>the European Parliament (EP), and the Council, have the right to invite the Commission to present legislative proposals.
>the Treaty of Lisbon codified the Commission's obligation to provide reasons for any refusal to follow a parliamentary initiative.
>Parliament could take the Commission to the Court of Justice of the EU if it fails to justify a negative decision.
and Parliament definitely does have power, and the commissioner is appointed by the democratically elected government, with the commission just being representatives of the national government
>>76008595
source?
What do you cunts think of HRH charles the great, heir to the throne?
>>76003320
michael*motorcycle
>>76008689
you must immediately go to the kitchen and fold yourself a new tinfoil hat. that will protect you
Can someone explain to a burger why you would willingly choose to be a vassal state?
>>76008830
>EU is proving that social democracy works
are you mentaly defficient?
>EU is bringing European countries closer together, more than eve lr
EU is causing larger than ever since the war fissures among europeean nations. Ask the average greek or spainard what he thinks of germany.
>EU offers a living and even a loving to third worlders
Which is insanity and embracing our on suicide.
>EU us finally censoring online harasment
>EU is offering gender equality
If you think either of these are possitive you need to reevaluate your possitions, and how you got them.
Neither is inherently good, especially not the last one, which breaks apart the family which has been the bedrock upon which our whole society has been constructed. The result of which we can scaresly imagine.
Is your ideal society some kind of Sparta esque society where the children are the states property and taken from the mother at age 4?
>Seeeing these anti EU and nationalism growimg in this country makes be feel uncomfortable, and it scares me
I dont mean to be rude but I think what scares you the most is thinking outside of the narrow set of values and boundries you were handed in your lacking swedish education/indoctrination. In concert with whatever culture (TV?) you consumed during your uppbringing.
>>76009402
I like his views on Traditionalism and stuff but I hope he turns out like his Dad and says what he thinks.
>>76008904
read the wiki is slang for 'the documentation'. e.g. read the wiki, didn't you rtfm ( read the fucking manual)
When (not if) UK is overrun by muzzies and dindus what do you Brits do?
Fight (not sure with what but I guess that's an option...) or move (where)?
>>76008830
Whoa .. Really makes you think.
I am now a #CameronMissile.
>>76009543
You're being baited anon. Ask something in Swedish, you'll get google translate gibberish.
Anti-EU Mashup Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zCGQV_aJME
im in a massive rage after watching have i got news for you, fucking massive hypocrites constantly moaning about how wanting to leave the eu makes us a racist, HOW ABOUT HAVING IMMIGRANTS WITHOUT A CRIMINAL RECORD AND AN EDUCATION FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD YOU FUCKING RETARDED CONDESCENDING CUNT
>>76009556
Where's corbyn?
>>76008944
>>76009029
>>76009036
>>76009105
>>76009159
>>76009218
But this is not even am argument though?
>>76009311
>raped
We call it a sexual emergency in Sweden. They do the same in Germany too.
At least our Sweden men are man enough to not say"our women" when mentioning native Swedish women.
Do you not realise the hell that these Syrians have been though?
YOU FUCKING BOMBED THEM!
Educate yourself
>>76009690
>When (not if) UK is overrun by muzzies and dindus what do you Brits do?
It' won't be.
And I'm not going anywhere.
>>76008904
>The European Parliament may, acting by a majority of its component Members, request the Commission to submit any appropriate proposal on matters on which it considers that a Union act is required for the purpose of implementing
the Treaties. If the Commission does not submit a proposal, it shall inform the European Parliament of the reasons.
Wait are you saying this is a good thing or a bad thing?
>>76009172
house of lords is the highest court of appeal in the uk. and yes the highest courts in you land, just like any land can over rule laws which unjustly fuck the people. in the us its the supreme court or the court of appeal, in europe its the court of human rights, in south africa it's the constitutional court of appeal.
Did Gove change any opinions yet?
>>76009834
Is that just British optimism or denial of reality?
>>76009475
Yes because the obvious fact, that a politician is dependant on the medias portrayal of his actions.
To convey the possitive immage to the people that will enable his re-election, is somehow tinfoil-ish?
Or is it the notion that the bankers can manipulate the economy through extraction or withholding of credit which inflences the job-markets which is by far the largest source for public malcontent with a govement that is somehow conspiratorical?
Before you say the acusation is far-fetched lets remember that LIBOR was proven to be intentionaly manipulated, just a few short years ago.
>>76009627
Read whatever cliffnotes you want, you can scarcely write legibly so I don't expect you interpret primary sources of law. Article 225 TFEU limits the power of the EU parliament to merely asking the commission to initiate legislation. The true right of initiative lies with the commission.
That means the executive branch has the powers of a legislature in direct contradiction of the doctrine of separation of powers. The executive branch we didn't elect.
>>76009893
>house of lords is the highest court of appeal in the uk.
You know Fuck all.
The Lords exist as part of a two tier Parliament, that's how it works.
You're getting boring now.
>>76009612
All I know about him is how much he rightfully talks about the shit architecture of our age
we were all racist bigots before 1993, remember that.
>>76010103
He's either a troll or an EU shill. Either way stop giving him replies and encouraging him.
>>76009690
Stay and watch the rape, murder and gdp numbers turn towards third world norms. Maybe then, when the state can no longer function properly and everyday murders go unsolved i'll be able to do a bit of genocide myself. I wouldnt want to burden myself on a non-cucked country but their time will come too.
>>76009848
It's a bad thing.
>>76010098
>>76009543
Actually, you'll find that Spain is voting in a gender and ethnic equality government.
Pick up a book.
Rigjt wingers like you are helping ruin our Sweden.
You're the problem who trigger the minorities.
>>76009785
>Where's corbyn?
Precisely
Look at this one. Gove looks like his fucking mum. Put a couple of curlers in and throw a pastel shaded bath robe over his shoulders and he's a dead ringer for her , mate. rouged up cheeks and all. and look at those 'should I suck you now lips'...his mum mate.
>>76009785
It's an old image, note how Clarkson is on the side with the Brexiters yet he has openly said that he wants a United States of Europe.
>>76010279
>Actually, you'll find that Spain is voting in a gender and ethnic equality government.
>Rigjt wingers like you are helping ruin our Sweden.
Meritocracy ruins nations, Sweden is right.
>>76009893
These levels of ignorance just aren't worth debating.
Gove has one fucking massive hand and one tiny hand
What's the best news channel, lads?
>>76009788
>syrians
Keep deluding yourself.
>>76010399
def the look of a pedo
>>76009995
they are fuck heads. but guess what. brexit wont fix that.
i had a conversation with an old teacher of mine who said she was voting remain, because she "didn't like the frame of mind of those people voting brexit".
fucking pisses me off so much as I'm currently being fucked by the EU massively and voting out.
>>76009893
Mate the house of Lords isn't our highest court lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_Kingdom
Are the remainers just really quiet IRL or are these opinion polls rigged in preparation for a rigged vote? Literally everyone I have spoken to IRL is voting OUT. Yet the polls say it's 50/50. Who the hell are these people?
>>76010515
I prefer Al Jazeera and RT.
>>76010279
>Actually, you'll find that Spain is voting in a gender and ethnic equality government.
Oh spain. They were last a relevant nation under Franco, but alass, much like their mediterranian bretheren in Greece an Italy they fare poorly outside of a authoritairian fascist rule.
>You're the problem who trigger the minorities.
Ok yeah I guess I shouldnt had responded to you in the first place.
Anyone who would argue for "minorities" that could be "triggered" by "mean words" to be imported into any country is either insane or trolling
>>76010553
Well, POC. Same thing.
Your country us riddled with football thugs and chavs who turn out as racists.
Then you wonder why minorities hate you.
>the whole world hates brits
Suppose it wasn't just a meme
Whatever.
>>76010648
the people voting remain are ignorant of the EU, yet think they are worldly enough to be better than, and condescending to those voting to exit.
>>76010229
I can respect that.
Anyone got a link to the debate recording?
>>76010648
>Who the hell are these people?
I wish I knew.
Mostly young people I think and lefties.
>>76010103
You are right. I am clearly more of a traditionalist than you...
The House of Lords, in addition to having a legislative function, historically also had a judicial function. It functioned as a court of first instance for the trials of peers, for impeachment cases, and as a court of last resort within the United Kingdom. In the latter case the House's jurisdiction was essentially limited to the hearing of appeals from the lower courts. Appeals were technically not to the House of Lords, but rather to the Queen-in-Parliament. By constitutional convention, only those lords who were legally qualified (Lords of Appeal in Ordinary, or Law Lords) heard the appeals, since World War II usually in what was known as the Appellate Committee of the House of Lords[1][2] rather than in the chamber of the House.
During the 20th and early 21st centuries, the judicial functions were gradually removed. The final trial of a peer in the House of Lords was in 1935, and in 1948, the use of special courts for trials of peers was abolished. In 2009 the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom assumed the functions as the new court of final appeal in the UK.
But the point stands, your court of appeal can strike legislation from the books or at least force parliament to relook it's legislation.
>>76010737
>Al Jazeera
>funded by Qatar government
>Best news channel
>>76010842
It should be on the sky news youtube.
>>76010643
yeah, i saw that. I was only 60 years out. fixed above.
>>76010648
>twats
>>76010906
With regard to certain world news Al Jazeera can be pretty good actually.
But never rely on one source.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8D8AoC-5i8&t=31m36s
Can anyone justify gove's answer to this question? Sounds a bit worrying to me.
Start it at 31 minutes 36 seconds if this link doesn't work in sending you there
>>76009690
>Fight (not sure with what but I guess that's an option...)
>imlying you need guns to fight
>implying going full IRA car bombing insurgency isnt the best option
>>76010906
Wheres the choice? Russia, Qatar or the Zionist-US viewpoint.....
>>76011171
Or /pol/
>>76010597
reminds me of peewee herman. also a pedo.
>>76010602
No it wont, but these problems are inherent to the design of democracy, which is why I called it a oligarchical ruling structure by design.
Especially in a land where media and banks are basicly completely unregulated outside of extremely prohibitive measures for starting a new one.
As is the case in our dear western nations.
Not only our sourthern cousins would benefit from autoritairian rule. I would argue for monarchies in the countries that have not yet abolished theirs, based on tradition.
But our monarchs are a sad bunch of rejects, and perhaps as ill fit to any kind of rule, as our current political whores.
>implying going full IRA car bombing insurgency isnt the best option
Yeah it is probably by far the best option open to us once we have established a revolutionairy party with a broad base of public suport.
The main problem remains how to do that.
but 50 provos essentially fought 50000 english troups to a standstill where they could force one of the worlds most powerfull millitairies into buying them off because of how prohibitively expensive the opperations against them were.
>>76011153
He's just shilling m8. No party advocating current levels of immigration will ever get in power if we end up leaving
>>76011034
hurrrr ur a racist if u dont want the eu
>fuck the chinks, paki, yanks and darkies though, they can fuck right off
i just cant stand the fucking hypocracy
>>76011153
I don't think you realise what he has to do mate .. .he is shilling, just look at the audience for FFS?
It would be suicide if he said, he hates Londonistan. . . .they all have to play this card, even Farage.
>>76010870
> Traditionalist
> Pro-EU
u wot m8?
You don't even understand how this country works. And for the last time, no court in this country can strike down an act of parliament. The only thing they can do is declare incompatibility with EU law or the convention on human rights.
This power was given to them by parliament and can be taken away. Parliament is also free to ignore their declaration. Whereas the US Supreme Court as an example can actually strike down legislation from congress. Here, I'll put it in a context you can understand:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_sovereignty
>>76011491
there is a clever swedish bank called handelsbanken. never lost a penny during the 2008 crash. how? they don't pay bonuses and all decisions are done at the branch. if u work for them, all your bonuses are rolled up for when you leave, so the good years cover the bad and your incentive is not to fuck your customers. why not simply enact laws to control the fuckers instead of shooting yourself in the foot ?
>>76011153
Do you expect him to go on a big anti islam rant or something? Something like that would kill the Leave campaign in one fell swoop.
>>76011541
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>>76011815
Funny that you'll give him a free pass but if cameron or anyone on the leave side went on about remain meaning we'd get more pakis and be more multiculti you'd be going mad
>>76011517
>>76011153
yup. u could have white euro immigrants, but gove wants you to have caribs instead and commonwealth nigs.....think about that
Decided to go with Sky News.
>>76011904
I don't get the point you are trying to make?
Rephrase your question and ask again.
>>76011951
30K of shits > 150K shits + 200K Euro's
>>76011951
better quality of weed anyway.
plus they respect the queen.
>>76011904
What are you trying to say?
>>76011742
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_sovereignty
here to learn...as well as spout.
the Supremacy of the Crown in Parliament
so not democracy.....
>>76011904
What are you on about?
>>76012071
Not sure how you can be so simple as to not understand that...
>>76011951
This is my feeling on the subject
>>76012161
>>76012236
literally gtfo
>>76012161
>he doesn't understand what a constitutional monarchy is
>>76012236
3 other anons have also asked you the same question.
But it's me that's the simple one?? . . .Ok
>>76012309
Get the fuck out if you don't want to shill for multiculturalism, diversity and immigrants from Pakistan, bangladesh and India instead of white Christians europeans?
Found the rasheed
Are you going to let Nigel buy you a drink?
>>76012435
>Two other people just as moronic as I am so that makes it alright
>>76012098
kek.
>>76012161
Constitutional monarchy, not a republic. There are many types of democracy.
Parliament is the supreme legal authority, parliament is the elected will of the people.
Before this the crown was the supreme legal authority. That was obviously not a democracy.
>>76012546
You are now going on full damage control because you were asked what you were trying to say.
Either learn to form a question .. .or fuck off.
>>76012439
commonwealth > europe
>>76012770
agree with anon here, commonwealth is a million times better tahn the EU
>>76012334
You seem to be all hinged about democracy this and that. but then not consistently so....republican myself.
eg. In recent years some judges and scholars in Britain and New Zealand have questioned the traditional view that parliament is sovereign.[23
so likely to change over time. cause it does change and adapt. after ww1 they gave the plebs the vote and so on and so forth.
>>76012770
Commonwealth citizens are overhwlemingly from the Indian sub continent and sub Saharan Africa
>>76012727
Read my posts again, if you can't understand them you're too stupid to debate with
>>76013020
> In recent years some judges and scholars in Britain and New Zealand have questioned the traditional view that parliament is sovereign.[23
The reason it's questioned is largely because of the EU. EU law is supreme over national law, this binds parliament - so parliament is no longer sovereign.
This is the crux of the sovereignty argument. The power of the people is surrendered to the EU.
>>76013154
>Read my posts again,
Nah . .you're just a kid.
>>76013154
I don't think they understand that my fellow commonwealth citizens voted in a president that cant read numbers never mind count. and they are happy for gove to let them in.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10389765
http://www.strawpoll.me/10389765
http://www.strawpoll.me/10389765
Important poll
>>76013154
I'll say again, commonwealth > europe.
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