How come the most capable fighting force on the planet got roasted by a few thousand rice farmers?
Sodomy
>>75925423
lend lease, also the soviets didn't farm rice
>>75925423
Politicians running a conventional force in a war against guerilla fighters, plus unprecedented media coverage.
>>75925423
>its their land
>its for their people
>soviet guns and their chinese knock-offs
>>75925423
Rules of engagement and unclear objectives + no home support.
Reminder that the American military turned Germany into ash in a handful of months. We didn't lack the capability, but we certainly did lack the will.
>>75925423
VC deaths were 3x US
Didn't have the will to win. In order to win militarily we basically needed to genocide the make gooks, breed their women, and wall off the borders. Some real biblical shit. Alternatively I bet most would abandon communism for some mosquito netting and air conditioning.
>>75925423
the qts of vietnam were too charming
>>75925423
>muh rice farmers
I don't understand the obsession leftists have with trying to spin Vietnam as some kind of American military defeat. It's truly an example of extreme doublethink when you consider the fact that not a single battle was lost.
>>75926300
This. VC died. US public opinion disliked the war and found a way to withdraw. S Vietnam didn't fall until 3 years after the US left.
Also be sure to thank McNamara for shitty rules of engagement that got thousands of Americans killed.
>>75926394
Its all about tearing down western civilization in every way so that communism/socialism/marxism can replace it.
They cheer the destruction of their own society.
>>75925423
How come the greatest civilization ever known to man is letting their enemies conquer them and their women while their men thank them and post on 4chan all day?
Every capital city is overrun and you hear about horrible gang rapes and murders. What more do you need?
1. millions of them
2. it was not solely the infrastructure of the downtrodden people of north vietnam you fucking retard
i always hear about rice farmers dressed in pajamas...no one ever mentions that the weapons the soviets were sending them were so advanced that the chinese were known to pilfer the cargo trains.
>>75925423
>>75925423
>How come the most capable fighting force on the planet got roasted by a few thousand rice farmers?
>ending a war of attrition that would have escalated into a direct confrontation with USSR
>Leftist propaganda and media infiltration turned the American public against the military and neutered then as starfighters
>Still manage a 1:19 kill ratio against a well equipped enemy while being commanded with the worst tactics ever deployed in modern warfare
>ROASTED!! lmao burgers BTFO!!!!
They didn't get roasted and if they were given permission to fight a real war rather than a poorly managed fuckfest the Viet Kong would have been forced to surrender or eradicated.
>>75925423
They didnt fight fair and square.
Real men line up in lines and shoot at each other.
>>75927000
SCHNIPPITY SHNAPEN
>>75925423
>roasted
Ummm we killed way more of them then US. We just got fed up with it. If it was our homeland being invaded now then it is a different story. Most Americans are sick of this "it is our duty to bring democracy bit" this whole anti-Assad BS is a continuation of it
>>75925423
>How come the most capable fighting force on the planet
thats not what the US military was. They had the best toys, maybe, and pretty good soldiers, but the leadership was complete shit.
>>75925423
>How come the most capable fighting force on the planet got roasted by a few thousand farmers?
I don't know. You tell me, Nigel.
>>75927745
You have to be seriously uneducated to think the British army was "the most capable fighting force on the planet" in the late 18th century
*Look at flag*
Oh yeah...
how come the most capable fighting force on the planet got roasted by a few thousand tobacco farmers?
Damn son that English boi fag got told
>>75927955
You received direct help from two countries more powerful than British
See it like this:
Britain (power= 2)
vs
Rebels (power= 0.5) + France (power= 4) + Spain (power=3)
Do the math
>>75928294
>France claiming the biggest stake in the American revolutionary war
>>75925423
You're an idiot. US destroyed them, in fact, they were about to surrender when pussy ass faggots in the US forced the US government to pull out.
>>75928874
Not talking about contribution, just relative military power at the time
But if you go that way, be aware that the 13 colonies would never have earned their freedom without French intervention.
France began providing arms and ammunition as early as 1776. In early 1777, months before Saratoga, the French sent American colonists 25,000 uniforms and pairs of boots, hundreds of cannons, and thousands of muskets -- all stuff that the colonists would've had a hard time surviving without, and all stuff they had no access to on their own.
France provided a whopping 90 percent of the rebels' gunpowder. Without France, the entire American Revolution would have devolved into a bunch of dudes swinging their muskets as clubs within weeks.
Still, the most important French contribution to the revolution was the least visible to Americans. The reason France pampered the Patriots was always selfish. They were out to weaken the British forces -- particularly their naval strength -- in order to take the fight to them, perhaps even conquer them. That's why, for much of the Revolutionary War, the British ships tasked with kicking America's ass had to survive 12 rounds with the French navy before they could even think of crossing the Atlantic. France gleefully fought the British, eventually teaming up with Spain, declaring a war, attacking from all sides, and even setting up an invasion force.
So, when the Colonial army was fighting for dear freedom, history books tend to conveniently forget that they did so with French money, equipment, and backup forces, while France and its other allies were busy pummeling the empire from every other side.
>>75925423
>How come the most capable fighting force on the planet got roasted by a few thousand rice farmers?
How come the British Empire got roasted by a few thousand potato farmers?
>>75929083
ty for saving us poor dumb colonists based fracne
>>75929083
pretty dumb move by France 2bh considering it was already broke
Because America couldn't into counterinsurgency
A Selous Scouts type unit could've swung that war
>>75929083
>this nigger
You fucking double nigger did you really just copy paste an article from CRACKED on /pol/
Gas yourself you fucking faggot
>>75925423
They didn't. They got roasted by their leadership and own people.
>>75929392
>>75926586
I thought S Vietnam fell as the US was pulling out? Like, NVA was right on our asses as the last few helicopters were pulling out of the capital city.
>>75925423
The war was rigged so the U.S would always lose
>>75926300
And way more Soviets died in Russia in ww2 then Germans.
Congrats, by your "logic" the nazis won! Just like /pol/ wanted!
>>75927906
Huh, you're right. I thought the Napoleonic wars happened way earlier. Turns out they were only a few decades later. I'd wager 1775 as Britain and France being about even.
>>75927906
>capable
>stuck on the continent
pick one
>>75925772
lend lease happened at the end of 1944 though, so it was barrely relevant
>>75929505
>7db9c81700aec7d637imanewfaggot.jpg
I can't believe you had to google for an opinion to copy because you can't think for yourself. Not only that but you picked the biggest spam faggot cancer site of them all
Please never do that again
attrition warfare
>>75929083
thx france and fuck the brits
>>75925423
It was the drug addicted hippies that defeated the US
>>75929715
Sure buddy you totally have any logic
>>75926216
Massive bombing campaign against German hard targets = result.
Same tactic against guerillas = no result.
>>75925423
Wrong as usual. We won. I am buying clothing items from Vietnam, the former communist assholes. Now they sit and make shirts and underwear for us via capitalism.
If we didn't kick their ass then why are they selling us shirts like the capitalists who beat their ass?
You lose.
>>75925423
Classic insurgent war of attrition. The jungle gooks have been fighting off invaders for literally 2000 years, there's no way some fat Ameriburgers with half assed leadership had a chance over the long term.
>>75926586
Sure
>>75925423
They didn't. The won every single major battle, and took comparatively few casualties. The war was between north Vietnam and south Vietnam, and the overall goal of the US was to protect the south and prevent the spread of communism. They didn't invade the north, because they didn't want to start WW3.
>>75926216
You bombed a defeated country, and struggled massively against a broken, underequipped army with no air support, as you crawled across Europe.
>>75930432
you're welcome for protecting you from becoming commies
>>75929759
>I'd wager 1775 as Britain and France being about even.
Not even close
From the 17th century until the 19th one, France was the most powerful country of Europe (the only exception being when Frederick's Prussia took that role during the Seven Years War)
In 1775, Britain was absolutly pathetic militarly speaking aside from its navy.
Way behind not only France, but also Spain, Prussia, Austria and Russia
>>75929083
>France began providing arms and ammunition as early as 1776. In early 1777, months before Saratoga, the French sent American colonists 25,000 uniforms and pairs of boots, hundreds of cannons, and thousands of muskets -- all stuff that the colonists would've had a hard time surviving without, and all stuff they had no access to on their own.
Amirca was declared free July 4, 1776. Thanks for jumping in at the end of the war buddy.
>>75925423
>Stupid fucking bong thinks the Vietnam was a lost.
Lets recap for our inbred island monkey relatives.
Kill Vietnamese belligerents at a rate of 100:1
Force them to the peace table.
They agree to the peace terms.
War over, leave, win for America.
This is not disputable.
U mad now?
>>75926394
It was though. You failed your main objective to keep vietnam from becoming a commie state. Nothing else matters.
>>75929981
>Jungle = hard targets
You have no idea what the fuck you are talking about
>>75925423
>few thousand
>>75930652
You literally allied with the commies, and caused their rise.
>>75930735
Oh, and before someone come up with the French and Indian War, you have to remember that France was focused on facing Prussia in Europe and thus had to make America a secondary theater
Pic related, it took Britain an entire decade to beat a French forces they outnumbered 4 to 1
I think it says enough on the quality of the British army in the 2nd half of the 18th century...
>>75930849
after we had already left you dumb kiwi.
>>75930965
>You literally allied with the commies
u high on reindeer pee, Jan?
>>75931025
You guys lost to yourselves.
3 times.
>>75930785
Viets break peace terms. War so unpopular you dont get sent back in.
Think you won.
>>75930735
>most powerful country aside from naval power
>most powerful except for in the most important area
>>75931049
Are you somehow unaware that you were allied with the Soviet Union in WW2, and even sent them supplies before you were allied with them?
>>75929960
>Sure buddy you totally have any logic
It is disgusting that you could not even bother to learn to speak English properly before coming here.
Please go home Mr Xing.
>>75931025
Surrender monkey
>>75931046
And? The war was too unpopular for you to come back. You left in "victory" knowing full well it was impossible to enforce the peace terms.
>>75931124
>Think you won.
Yup.
Won the first war.
Didn't give a fuck for the 2nd one.
>>75931217
oh u wanna go that far back?
America prior to WW2, couldnt give a fuck who was fighting in Europe as long as they bought our shit.
We never held Quisling against your axis nation.
>>75925423
Because we weren't allowed to waste every basket-headed gook in that godforsaken shithole. The gooks hid behind their own and played dindu nuffins whenever an innocent (if you could call any of them that) chink got shot. The gooks lost over a million and a half men while we lost 57,000. A price too high to pay, but much less than the expendable chink-eyed rice niggers paid for their Commie niggerhole.
>>75931528
>Victory is not determined by a piece of paper
are you five years old?
>>75931679
>We never held Quisling against your axis nation.
What does that even mean? He was a puppet that the Germans installed after they invaded Norway.
>>75931932
>after they invaded Norway.
after you rolled over and collaborated.
Because people think that they can occupy a country without brutally enforcing the law after glassing the opposition mercilessly so they just stand around with their things up their asses while everything goes to shit once they occupy because muh feelings
>>75932071
You might want to open a history book, if that's what you think.
