>mfw reading Trump University playbooks
I know you guys love him, but...
This can't make you comfortable.
>>75861555
It doesn't mean anything bad. It is a liberal lie. Trump is great!. He even said that he is great. So it must be true.
>>75861555
I just ignore it like the fags who ignore how stupid Bernies ideas are or how fucked up Hillary is.
Trump 2016
>>75862379
But isn't that hypocritical.
You made a huge point of calling those people idiots for ignoring those things.
That makes you an idiot too, doesn't it? I mean, this man literally wrote down that you should swindle people out of the things you want. He wants your vote. How do you know that any of the things he says aren't just swindling for that end?
What has he done to earn that trust? I'm very confused, like a Bernie supporter would be.
>>75862609
Trump has never did anything wrong, did you hear him? He said that he is smart.
>>75861555
Link senpai?
>>75862910
http://fortune.com/2016/06/01/trump-university-sales-playbooks/
>During one-on-one conversations, “you may begin with some small-talk to establish rapport but do not let them take control of the conversation,” a playbook reads. “You must be very aggressive during these conversations to in order to push them out of their comfort zones.”
>“If they complain about the price, remind them that Trump is the BEST!! This is the last real estate investment they will ever need to make.”
>For those who have hit credit limits, employees are told to suggest they dip into savings or identify other “seed capital.”
>“Money is never a reason for not enrolling in Trump University; if they really believe in you and your product, they will find the money,” a playbook reads.
I sat in on a conference for a pyramid scheme once. It's... exactly the same.
>>75861555
Seriously, this is the worst election to date EVER. The choice is between Trump (a bit shady after this revelations and surely unpredictable) and that warmonger cunt $hillary (e-mail, bengazi, shitty secretary, corrupt fundation, proven liar and cold blooded).
Fuck those two, still, I'd pick Trump over $hill because there's no other choice.
>>75861555
Businessman scamming the ignorant, what's new?
>>75861555
what's the name of the guy in that webm? that's exactly the way I feel when listening to people try to defend hillary
>>75863286
>what's new?
What's new is that he's the GOP nominee.
>>75862609
Holy shit you're right. And for that reason, I need to ask you for some aloe vera because now im a #bernvictim
>>75863139
Oh, here's the actual playbook!
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/documents/2016/may/31/guide-trump-university-employees/
If you have the time, read through it. You might learn a thing or two.
it's bad, the only consolation is that it is cancelled out by Hillary's email scandal, but it kind of feels like we lost the moral highground
>>75863809
Who is moral in this world anymore? People who voted hillary must have no moral.
>>75863139
I'm not seeing a problem, this is all sound advice
>>75864137
if you're a sociopath with no semblance of basic human empathy, then sure
Trump University is great. You shills have literally no dirt on Trump. You have nothing. Why even post?
>>75864211
This is business, not daycare
Trump wasn't actually operating the thing, he just licensed his name to them. Doesn't totally absolve him of blamr, but he wasn't actually scamming people himself.
>>75862609
Im not ignoring it. Ill duly acknowledge it.
But it does not impact my opinion of him or my decision to vote for him in the slightest.
>>75864211
>empathy
>business
pick one
>>75864211
>(((empathy)))
>business
pick one
>>75864255
I posted just to say I agree with the potato
Are people surprised that business is dirty? He already corrupted politicians
>>75864211
yeah millionaires and billionaires aren't made by playing nice
>>75863139
> t. never sold something in my life
>>75864301
>>75864387
>>75864404
>defending the behavior which is the biggest source of what's wrong with the world
why aren't you voting for hillary then?
>>75864985
>everything that's wrong in the world is caused by arbitrary conditions which I outlined based on my own unsubstantiated bias against businessmen.
Pathetic.
This doesn't seem too bad.
>>75864985
Hey burger, read the fucking documents, I'll laugh hard when the court will determine that isn't a scam. The whole document has recommendations not to circumvent the clients, they have no ground for "fraud" accuses, the clients were presented a product they willingly bought.
>>75864985
Because I'm only voting for meme purposes. If Trump wasn't in the election I wouldn't have even registered.
>>75865131
>arbitrary conditions
the toppling of foreign governments when vying for land or control, the deals made to secure oil rights, the racketeering organizations that are supposed to help people but instead prey upon them, the liberties given up under the guise of freedom to enact more control upon the masses, and pretty much the entirety of the corrupt american corporatocracy and all other atrocities committed worldwide in the name of greed are not "arbitrary."
>unsubstantiated bias against businessmen
this has far less to do with businessman than it has to do with the attitude that leads to such controlling entities. if you're in favor of these tactics, then surely you must support israel and the rothschilds as well?
also, look up rational choice theory.
>>75865427
>Hey burger, read the fucking documents
I have.
>I'll laugh hard when the court will determine that isn't a scam. The whole document has recommendations not to circumvent the clients, they have no ground for "fraud" accuses
that's exactly why it was written that way, dumbass. of course they aren't going to rule it as a scam. otherwise there wouldn't be a single pyramid scheme left functioning in this fucking stupid country.
>the clients were presented a product they willingly bought
people will buy dog shit instead of food if you can convince them it's better for them. but that doesn't mean you should.
>>75865697
how noble of you.
>>75863139
Sounds jewish.
>>75866191
>people will buy dog shit instead of food if you can convince them it's better for them. but that doesn't mean you should.
Responsibility is on the buyer. Cry about it.
>>75866463
>Responsibility is on the buyer.
defend lobbying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvaaeHP9xtQ
Anyone thats butthurt about this clearly knows jack shit about business seminars, they are hugely popular, quite expensive, and whether they help you or not is completely dependent on your own abilities and some luck as with any business venture.
My business professor told me how he paid 5k for some seminar and it was helpful and worth it, people are just bitching because they didn't become millionaires after it
Wow, I'm for communism now! #ResistCapitalism
>>75866865
>pay $5k to go to a seminar to hear things you already know
nobody's bitching about the seminars. they're bitching about the behavior the seminars teach, which is both morally and ethically reprehensible.
>>75864211
>If you are a sales person, you are a Sociopath
>>75867028
>muh morality and ethics
how many laws did he break? none? ok ...
go thump some bibles if you want morality, those people got exactly what they paid for.
>>75861555
Wow, really makes you think.
I am now #CruzinForaBruzin
>>75861555
AS a new yorker, as long as he does it to other countries I couldn't give a flying fuck. It looks like regular business to me and what you should be asking yourself is how similar is this to what other currently running institutions are doing?
>>75862247
samefagging from your phone again pedro?
>>75861555
> reading rich dad poor dad books
> neither rich, poor or dad
guise this is the end for trump
>>75863139
Thats just A guide to aggressive marketing.
Its a scummy thing to do for sure, bit i fail to see where the legal issue with it comes up.
His book, Art of the deal, is filled with the same kind of advice really. Any game theory book would likely have the same shit in it too.
Im not for trump either, but you shitfucks need to realise that the more and more you try to fling shit at him the less it sticks.
>>75866912
okay, then defend any of this:
http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&DocId=6932136&File=4
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/panama-papers-include-dozens-of-americans-tied-to-financial-frauds/2016/05/09/d199bfa2-12d3-11e6-81b4-581a5c4c42df_story.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/PanamaPapers/comments/4f7sw3/inside_panama_papers_multiple_clinton_connections/
http://www.wired.com/2015/12/congress-slips-cisa-into-omnibus-bill-thats-sure-to-pass/
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nation-and-world/utah-law-requiring-anesthesia-abortion-goes-effect
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/13/september-11-saudi-arabia-congressional-report-terrorism
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-11/poultry-workers-in-diapers-as-bathroom-breaks-denied-oxfam-says
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/rio-olympics-2016-zika-virus-global-health-disaster-a7024146.html
>>75867203
I was a car salesman for 4 years. I had to quit because of how much of a piece of shit I felt like scamming people every day. if you want to be a good salesman, you're basically foregoing all the values you were raised with.
>>75867236
>the law, both written and paid for by the rich, defines morality
>nothing can be morally or ethically wrong unless there's a law written to define it as such
man, I bet you'd have a great time living under chairman mao.
>>75861555
It's a standard sales tactic. We did the same thing at the Ford dealership I worked at.
>>75864985
>why vote for a smart businessman instead of a corrupt political sellout?
Trump hasn't done anything illegal desu, you're going to have to try harder, Huma.
>>75867691
>I was a car salesman for 4 years. I had to quit because of
Yeah selling shitty cars that break down just after warranty and taking advantage of that meme to push "Extended warranty" that doesn't actually cover anything useful on people could make you feel like a piece of shit, but it's your fault for working in a shithole like fucillo...
which reminds me, everybody, here is some asmr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejA0wKTRHH4
>>75863139
Sounds like a typical sales playbook. Be forthcoming and aggressive, don't go around thinking nobody can afford your product.
>>75868214
>Trump
>smart businessman
>Trump
>hasn't done anything illegal
>>75868214
>smart businessman
I see you've bought into the "good at business" meme as well. if you think trump is a "smart businessman," then I have news for you: you bought what he was selling.
the most effective way of propaganda is the one making you believe that you are creating your own opinions from an unbiased information. they are continually feeding you partial information which leads to the desired outcome/opinion, then the human ego comes in - the result you've created is a part of you. you put it together. you made the effort, spent the time and energy, and anyone questioning it is questioning you your ego, so now you are ready to fight for it, to fight for yourself. the mainstream media aren't the only people who use this method. this is where we are; they who control the media control the people. they are the only communication link between those in power and the common folk. ask yourself what you've seen on 4chan outside of memes.
and look up virtue epistemology and effective altruism when you get the time.
>>75868300
>>75867427
I know 4chan seems like an easy target for you, but traditional forum sliding is largely ineffective in this day and age. try again.
>>75868662
>meme arrows
>meme gif
>no content
>>75869023
>everyone is lying to me!
go back to /x/ tinfoil nigger
>>75869023
here you are branding me to discredit me and yet you're shit talking how trump does things. Eat a dick fag
So let me get this straight, he got absolute idiots to give him money and you're mad because of "mah capitalism". Stop posting here and go back to rioting near every Trump rally Pack
>>75862379
this
>>75862379
>just be as dumb as they are
this is why the entire political system is busted. People are fucking worthless and care more about what they WANT to believe.
>>75868214
>scamming people
>good buisnessman
>>75863259
That's exactly how I feel. It's a fucking joke.
But at least Trump brings the bantz.
>>75863259
Heaven forbid he ever sold things
>>75869229
>go back to /x/ tinfoil nigger
My sides
>>75869868
>what makes a scam successful
>lack of information
>lack of intelligence
It's one of the few forms of darwinism that still exists in civilization. You know those nigerian prince letters? They're misspelled on purpose because anybody stupid enough to overlook the spelling errors is much more likely to follow through and get scammed and the nigerians don't want to waste time on maybes.
>>75864211
Yeah I'm sure you're a real saint with all your dealings with human beings.
>>75864211
>not giving a fuck about strangers without a good reason makes you a sociopath
This just in, being a reactionary cunt controlled by feelings is the acceptable and preferred behavior of the worker bee. Please remember to vote for Hillary, she's a woman.
>>75864985
I assume you're voting for Bernie, the guy who wants to take property from the winners and give it to the losers of society?
>>75864985
>>defending the behavior which is the biggest source of what's wrong with the world
Anything in Excess is bad and wrong. Is it abuse of practice or an abundance of stupid?
>>75866191
>the corrupt american corporatocracy
lol you are a fucking pathetic beta male
>>75865213
Those are all standard sales / marketing tricks. Limited time sales, Saturday/Sunday only special pricing, limited quantities (first X callers).
Guys I can't stand with Trump anymore, he finally got stumped this time...
I mean Trump University, more like Chump University am I right haha? it really makes you think...
I am now a #BernVictim
>>75867028
Have you ever wondered that your life sucks because you believe salesmanship is immoral? This is probably why you fucking suck at job interviews.
>>75861555
>>75862609
Oh shit you're absolutely right. Guess I'm now #artillaryforhillary
>>75862609
Proof he literally wrote that down?
>>75861555
Well I guess that's it then. I now #berncoal4shillary
>>75867691
Were you actually lying about the cars you sold?
>>75869356
>branding me to discredit me
no, just trying to get you to open your fucking eyeballs.
>>75869229
>le conspiracy argument xD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyfus_affair
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Project
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestos#Discovery_of_toxicity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_scandal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_%28testimony%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_Credit_and_Commerce_International
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_CIA_drug_trafficking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sox_Scandal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Silkwood#Death
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag#Operation_Northwoods
and look at what's happening in michigan with all the water crisis shit.
but sure, poisoning the well has made it real easy to discredit anyone who takes the time to look into things further. good job, buddy. keep fighting that good fight.
>>75870274
no, but I do try to be.
>>75870483
>not caring inherently about the well-being of other human beings on principle
I don't give a shit about other people's feelings, but I do care about keeping them alive and healthy. but sure, go ahead and call me a reactionary for trying to open more people's eyes to the negative effects of the behavior of those in power. that sure makes a lot of sense.
>>75870586
I'm voting for trump, actually. but mostly only because the alternative is hillary.
>>75870721
>pic related
>>75869023
>Trump isn't actually a billionaire who owns multiple skyscrapers
>>75861555
I don't care. I'm rooting for him to win no matter what he does. He do the rest of the campaign naked and take a shit on live tv and I'd still support him.
>>75861555
>Trump University
You realize that he only let these people borrow his name for money, right? That he has nothing to do with the curriculum and shit, right?
>liberals really think Trump made this shit
Can't make this shit up.
>>75871051
>I don't give a shit about other people's feelings, but I do care about keeping them alive and healthy.
oh, so you're a caretaker. You know what's best for them? you want to feed them and hold them and brush them and protect them from danger? You want to make them dependent on you? You're the kind of person that fancies themselves a slave owner? yeah?
>trump is literally scrooge McDuck
At least it isn't a MLM
>>75863139
Oh no aggressive sales advice I guess I #feelthejohnson now
>people absolutely, positively despise Jewish people and their tactics
>everyone is advocating their tactics in this thread.
If his name was Donald Trumpberg, we would be seeing an entirely different reaction. This is partly why I despise humanity. The hypocrisy is astonishing; no specific group is immune to it. True rigor is a fucking joke nowadays because it doesn't exist. Everyone has an excuse for everything.
>>75869023
>Trump's not even smart like me,a learned scholar of navel gazing pseudo philosophy. Yeah, the reason i don't have any money or success in life is because I'm far too moral, unlike that con man fat cat Drumpf. Do some research on this irrelevant topic bro so you can be smart like me.
>>75871185
I think he prefers being called a "People Collector". He likes to collect poor people for brownie point redemption.
>>75861555
>I know you guys love him, but...
t. increasingly nervous man
>>75870902
you sure are good at making assumptions about people. I make over $350k a year, but you can keep trying to discredit me if you want.
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/1691
http://industryweek.com/articles/obama_says_10_billion_trade_deal_with_india_will_lead_to_jobs_23181.aspx
http://www.theage.com.au/interactive/2016/the-bribe-factory/day-1/the-company-that-bribed-the-world.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-and-her-aides-tried-to-alter-drug-report-because-they-didn-t-like-the-conclusions-nick-a6988616.html
http://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2016/feb/01/nestle-slavery-thailand-fighting-child-labour-lawsuit-ivory-coast
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/19/plans-to-stop-collecting-data-on-wealthiest-1-in-uk-criticised-by-ifs?CMP=share_btn_tw
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/04/20/475017281/u-s-ranks-41st-in-press-freedom-index-thanks-to-war-on-whistleblowers
http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2016/04/watchdog-says-press-freedom-decline-new-era-propaganda/
http://www.theguardian.com/news/commentisfree/2016/apr/10/money-offshore-corrupt-democracy-political-influence
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/ttip-uk-government-only-did-one-assessment-of-trade-deal-and-found-it-had-lots-of-risks-and-no-a6999646.html
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/qatar-national-bank-allegedly-hacked-data-1200-entities-leaked-online-1642830110
http://www.zdnet.com/article/nsa-whistleblower-overwhelmed-with-data-ineffective/
https://euobserver.com/migration/133318
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/may/02/food-producers-congress-lobbying-foia-united-egg-producers
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-05-03/super-rich-were-first-to-bail-when-lehman-collapse-ripped-stocks
>>75861555
oh anon, don't be so naive
much worse practices have been implemented by corporations and businesses
that 1 of 300+ businesses that Trump heads would be caught up in something like this is not a surprise
on top of that, it's only a few students seeking charges compared to the thousands of charges sought by students against universities all over the country
>>75866729
It's called a free market, nigger.
>>75871332
Everyone uses sales tactics whenever they try to convince someone to go their way. Anyways, Trump wasn't even the person who likely wrote these documents.
>>75863139
Its a salespitch, have you never encountered a true salesman before, they all use this tactic
>>75871381
>says the autist violently pasting URLs
Yeah sure buddy
>this is the best attack hillary shills can come up with
L O L
>>75871185
you sure are making some good arguments there, I hope you're getting paid a good amount for them.
http://wtvr.com/2016/04/29/virginia-state-medical-examiners-investigation-amid-allegations/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-will-not-be-investigated-over-off-shore-trust-and-tax-affairs-by-parliamentary-a6994241.html
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/apr/17/edward-snowden-on-police-pursuing-journalist-data-the-scandal-is-what-the-law-allows
http://www.nwitimes.com/business/local/bp-ceo-to-get-million-raise-after-layoffs/article_52201886-d6ef-5c56-ad49-bb5342525556.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-microsoft-privacy-idUSKCN0XB22U
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/14/us-corporations-14-trillion-hidden-tax-havens-oxfam
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/most-americans-have-less-than-1000-in-savings-2015-10-06
http://www.climatechangenews.com/2016/04/07/big-oil-spent-115m-obstructing-climate-laws-in-2015-ngo-says/
>>75861555
He's a businessman, I don't get why people are trying to act surprised when he acts greasy. It's just like him outsourcing production of his clothing line to Malaysia, of course he's going to try and make as much money as possible, he's a fucking businessman.
Be happy you have someone willing to give up their career and work for America and end all the corrupt shit that only a businessman will truly know of.
>this thread
I am now a #CruzMissile.
>>75871685
so what exactaly is your beef here? you're all over the place man. what are you upset about?
>>75864327
not true. he was very close with the operation for a while.
>>75871814
He's upset that he's a loser
>he's not even a billionaire guys just has some buildings and some cash lol
>a small loan
>would have made more money investing it
>>75869023
Literally not an argument
>>75871672
People who think this is bad are incredibly naive. They have no idea about the crazy marketing and sales manipulation that goes on in all advertisements, with data taken from their Gmail and Facebook.
>>75871333
hey, I can make ad hominems too!
but I won't, because that's not conducive to a learning environment, and you seem like you desperately need to learn.
>>75871657
maybe you should read some of them.
>>75871814
let me put it as simply as possible: if philosophy were taught in schools, if our government weren't controlled by the rich without letting the majority of people have an actual voice, and if people weren't so blinded by fear and greed, then the world would be a much better place and humanity as a whole could work together to advance. everything I do in my life works toward these ends.
>>75861555
If that stuff is really in the playbook then yes i see him in a different light
>>75865213
>>75870786
am I reading this wrong? it seems to say that these techniques are not allowed for sale reps?
>>75871558
You're missing the point.
These are the same tactics that Jewish people use to con people out of their hard earned cash, and then they charge exorbitant interest fees to guarantee that they make a grotesque profit. This type of scheming led to the 2008 crash. Subprime mortgage crisis; ever heard of it?
You can blame the poor people and the victims, but don't defend the actions of scummy individuals. If you want to defend this, fine; just don't be fucking hypocritical about shit. If you're going to defend this Trump shit, then you stand behind the tactics many Jews utilize in business as well.
My dad is Ashkenazi Jew and my mother is Jamaican. Trust me, I know this shit when I see it.
>>75871685
I really wish I was getting paid to voice my opinions. Then I'd have more money for video games.
Trump university will not influence anyone's vote. The only people outraged about it are people who already hated Trump. And they're only feigning outrage anyway.
Hand over the delegates, Donald
>>75872280
well, at least there's something we can agree on.
>mfw faggots actually defend for-profit universities because he's Trump aka a businessman
Donald , you're a sniveling coward
Well the sales tactics are sure nasty, but at the end of all of this, had anyone felt disserviced? Like, it's only harmful when after a year you look back and say "man, I was scammed like a fucking child". As much as I know, the case is ripping apart because they can't find anyone to complain about it. Is this truly a bad thing then?
>>75872116
Don't you feel awful after spending all this time butting heads on an anonymous image board? Even if you spin this as a personal victory later you won't be able to avoid that terrible feeling. Unless you're used to it. Some would say that means your soul has corroded but we all have filth we wallow in. Yours just happens to be delusion.
>>75864985
Holy shit you shills are hilarious
>>75872531
>Don't you feel awful
about what? trying to show other people how harmful their approval of human selfishness actually is?
>>75872569
read the thread.
>>75872528
I say the couse wasn't particularly good and he had to shut it down because of the poor quality.
This is much different from claiming "scam" techniques used by every business out there.
Read the report, there isn't much considerable illegal.
>>75872116
>Humanity as a whole
>Good thing
Nope.
>>75868214
>hasn't done anything illegal
>has 2 class action lawsuits going to trial soon
>which he will almost certainly lose by most analysis
>>75872116
sounds like you're just riding on a moral high horse. you want people to be selfless go to church.
>>75872848
Responding to you, I say people were in the gray zone of awareness-non awareness.
The course wasn't good as expected, I won't call it a fraud.
People were attracted by Trump's brand but there is nothing in the documents or in the depositions that prove a circumventing act from the staff.
This is a case for a court, not for the media.
>>75872957
I probably would tell them that, if I didn't despise all organized religions. but wait, you don't think human beings should be moral? you don't think people should introspect, and take the effects of their actions on the people around them into account? I guess if your wife cheated on you, you'd be perfectly okay with that?
>>75866191
Jesus Christ you are a cuck
>>75873186
>if I didn't despise all organized religions.
>>75872116
Philosophy is an arbitrary way of thinking. You can presume and presume but you can't teach a pig to sing. People are INHERENTLY self concerned. Even your "good deeds" are about making YOU happy.
"I want to help people."
"Why?"
"Because it makes me feel good."
You're still doing something for yourself.
>>75872116
Lmao learn about your shitty wikipedia morality? Yeah, no thanks. Not possible to learn anything from a failed salesman anyway.
>>75873309
Kek, but please, don't turn a good discussion into name calling.
The God Emperor is already doing it for you.
>>75873377
>wikipedia isn't a credible source
>wikepedia compiles summaries from other sources
>>75862379
Our choice is between a commie that would make america venezuela again, an outright criminal who betrays national security, and a big jerk who has questionable business ethics
I know who I'm voting for
>>75872848
All humans are selfish, including you.
I want to redirect again what >>75863670 posted above. Link to the actual playbook so you can read instead of reading the hitpiece.
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/documents/2016/may/31/guide-trump-university-employees/
The guidelines require all sessions recorded, and check page 90. It specifically discusses materials that are not okay to present, such as implying success, reflecting incorrect prices, manufacturing shortages.
>>75863139
This is what all the hype is about? Lmao
Boilerplate shit
>>75872848
>about what? trying to show other people how harmful their approval of human selfishness actually is?
no not that, the loss of energy with nothing to gain from it is what will drive you to spin this positively later, and depending on how much you truly believe that depends on how well you can numb the awful feeling.
>>75872528
It was a classic real estate seminar (albeit overpriced). I think it was better than usual for seminars because they did have 1-on-1 tutors going specifically on personal gameplans. This is why everyone marked high scores on the way out, because they felt like there was value.
>>75863139
>how to sell 101
Why is this even a thing?
Oh right, its because the establishment are terrified of Trump.
>>75871028
Is it lying to genuinely make friends with someone to sell something?
Because that's what a good salesman does, finds something that makes him like the customer and displays something that makes the customer like him. This forms a friendship and now it doesn't matter what you're selling because the person likes you and therefore the product.
Even with a totally legitimate product or a charity, this making and then abandoning of friends is emotionally exhausting but if there's any shonkiness at all it's like befriending someone just to stab them in back and only a psycho wouldn't feel guilt.
>>75872375
If universities were actually for-profit and the government was fucking everyone over, people would be better trained and have less debt heading out. The new-media online courses that cost $30 are going to make the scam which is modern university education die.
>>75863139
>I sat in on a conference for a pyramid scheme once. It's... exactly the same.
could you define a pyramid scheme for us?
>>75872224
Some guy running an overpriced seminar is not what created the subprime mortgage crisis you piece of shit liar.
>>75873576
but we shouldn't surrender ourselves to it, we should aspire to something greater
>>75872214
Oh my bad, I misread it. Lol, that's even better then. Those sales tactics are standard practice but it looks like they are discouraging them.
>>75874125
No, there's nothing wrong with it in the first place. Caring about oneself before others is natural, healthy, and logical.
I don't even like Trump, but what does this have to do with his presidency?
>>75863139
Dudes a fucken savage in the business world knows what it takes to make money.
This gets my dick hard, and makes me want to vote for him even more.
He knows what the fuck is going on and how to compete on a Global scale and isn't afraid to be a pussy ass beta bitch fuck boi.
>>75873969
Missing the point.
The same tactics and rhetoric are being used, you fucking imbecile. Ever heard of the "gift of gab?" You're clearly purposefully ignoring the overarching point and completely misinterpreting my main thesis to stick to a narrative.
If you defend this type of bullshit, you defend the overwhelming majority of Jewish tactics to take money from goyim. I have fucking SEEN this with my own eyes. My dad works as a fucking architect because he despised following the practice of his father/my grandfather, who is a fucking ~businessman~.
You are entitled only to the sweat of your brow and the sweat of those who work for you, who you give a fair wage for the work they do. You're not entitled to the sweat of other people's brow for swindling them.
>>75866191
>otherwise there wouldn't be a single pyramid scheme left functioning in this fucking stupid country.
were the students encouraged to become resalesmen?
how is it a pyramid scheme?
>>75874211
Never trust anyone who won't admit to their own self-interest.
>>75872932
Aren't the lawsuits just because people who went to Trump University didn't get jobs afterwards so they're blaming the University on their incompetence?
>>75865213
jesus, it's a good job I don't have $35k lying around, I'm getting tempted
>>75874516
Well given that the subprime mortgage crisis was caused by the government telling banks to loan to people who couldn't possibly make their payments, I think it's different. Go fuck yourself.
No one cares about your dad basement dweller. Tell your own stories or go fuck yourself before you get banned for being underaged.
>>75862609
Really makes you think.
I am now a #cruzmissile
>trump shills a university jewing you out of money with shitty kike advice
Wow, what a moral and high-standing man! he's totally the next Hitler!
>>75874664
The government didn't tell the banks to do anything. The banks took the initiative to sell loans to people they knew couldn't pay the loan back by filling them up with false promises, outright lies and just horrific fraud. Read/watch the court proceedings and what went on in court. Read The Big Short and Liar's Poker while you're at it because you clearly don't know shit, you stupid fuck.
If you can afford to make less, make less.
What is the point in arguing about any of this shit? Who cares if Trump's University sucks? Who cares if Trump says something mean? Trump could jerk off to gay midget scat porn for all I care, I'm not voting for him based on all this non policy shit. I'm voting for him because he's going to stop this mass immigration and use Reagan era economics to bring jobs back to America. That and because the other 2 choices at this point both believe in open borders, and one of them thinks Socialism works, and the other doesn't even have political beliefs past what Soros tells her to believe.
this is just how sales is done
salespeople can be scummy but who really cares
it's the free market. school choice is good
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>>75867028
>go to a seminar to hear things you already know
there seems to be alot of shit in the trump seminaris that I don't already know
>>75867028
>they're bitching about the behavior the seminars teach, which is both morally and ethically reprehensible.
is being sued evidence of guilt? or are people and institutions innocent until PROVEN guilty?
>>75863139
Oh look, it's fucking nothing
>>75874615
No, they are for fraud
>>75876447
Which basically means "This course didn't teach me what it said it would teach me." Unless they were teaching finger painting or something the lawsuits probably won't go through. They're probably going in with the mindset of 'These courses sucked!' but as long as they actually taught what they said they were going to teach, they can be as shitty and unhelpful as they want them to be and not get sued for it.
>>75863259
You forogt about Gary! FEEL THE JOHNSON
Obviously what's written in the playbooks are ethically dubious (encouraging people to max out their credit cards to pay when they say they don't have the money, for example), but there are a lot of these multilevel seminars out there designed to fleece economically desperate people and the retired looking to make an extra buck in real estate, and it's not illegal to do so as long as these seminars are advertised honestly.
>>75876962
The fraud is in how it was advertised. Trump had almost nothing to do with the material being taught or the instructors hired to teach the material, despite misleading marketing saying otherwise and instructors being taught to mislead students about knowing Trump himself despite never even meeting the man (there's instructions in the released playbook telling instructors to relay a story about a nugget of deep real estate knowledge dropped by Trump himself while having dinner with the man), and that he might drop by at some point to talk personally with the students (he never did). Most of the instructors also had limited to no experience in real estate despite being advertised as real estate experts hand-picked by Trump himself.
lmao who the fuck cares about Trump University?
Dude also sells fucking steaks.
You are now aware that all tuition based education employs hard sell tactics to secure recruits for the tuition con.
This is why there is such a colossal student loan debt in the US. It was sold to them as beneficial.
