The new info about Trump University does not look good. And it's all tied to Mr. Trump, because this was a profit center for him, unlike deals where he licensed his name.
Go to any link. You won't find anyone defending this scam. It's Hillary's Whitewater deal multiplied by 1000x.
>>75848626
>It's Hillary's Whitewater deal multiplied by 1000x.
:^)
>>75848837
He's a scam artist it was clear from day one. What kind of "'"billionaire"""" tacks his name on all kinds of tacky low quality shit like trump steaks and trump water and shit like that.
>>75848626
>Successful businessman makes money
Shocking.
>>75849131
Yeah its pretty shocking that you're fanatics for con man who btw won't keep his promises like any candidate.
Although murrican stupidity is never so much of a shock than a mild surprise
>>75849016
here come dat filename!
>>75849131
>Successful businessman makes money
Read the details. He makes the jewiest jew in the world look like saint theresa.
Who cares, he's still more likeable than Hillary and agreeable than commie sanders
>>75849077
>>75849218
Yeah I'll believe it when a nonbiased news outlet actually reports it instead of all those anti-trump news aggregators
>Grown adults are convinced to willingly part with their money by a salesman
More incredible Breaking News at 11.
>>75848626
your evidence is a jewgle search?
>>75849218
>murrican stupidity
your flag on the moon brah?
nah? okay i think you need to reconsider who you claim to be stupid.
euorpeans are like children, dat stupid dis stupid u stoopy head hurr durr
yet fail to grasp the vital concept that intelligence is impossible to determine, everyone is smart/creative in their own unique way there is no definitive intelligence.
>>75849371
>Grown adults are convinced to willingly part with their money by a salesman
but it wasn't salesmen, it was conmen, and they admit it. there's a difference.
>>75849295
>98% approval rating
>>75849218
>>75849295
He uses his intelligence to make money off of stupid people.
You're not going to get rich working a normal job. To be the best, you have to outsmart everyone else, and he certainly has.
Envy is a nasty creature, isn't she.
>>75849218
ring ring ids 4 u :DDDDDDDD
>>75849337
What are you talking about, huggington post is the epitome of unbiased journalism, just look at these pristine articles;
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-new-hampshire_us_56b8fcc5e4b04f9b57dab13b
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/a-note-on-trump_b_8744476.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-south-carolina_us_56c87f72e4b041136f1725b8
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eliot-borenstein/russian-fascists-for-trum_b_9368132.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jedediah-purdy/jim-webb-donald-trump-and_b_9390072.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/07/26/donald-trump-alex-salmond_n_7873464.html
Someone mansplain what's going on to me.
>>75849683
>98% approval rating
that number was forced. it was not anonymous, and it was before the course had been completed. once they realized it was snakeoil, requests for refunds started to pile up, as did the lawlsuits which are on-going.
It's not a great idea to campaign for office while having to give depositions in court about shady business practices, when your only claim to office is your business acumen.
>>75849778
Leftist news outlets coordinate an attack on trump based on Trump University being a scam even though you can't verify any of it.
>>75849778
trump made courses to teach people his business acumen, etc.
he got 98% approval rating
media chased down the butthurt 2% and manufactured a false narrative that it was a scam, because they have to push the anti trump agenda any way they can.
>>75849778
memesters from reddit think a court case that's going to fail is serious business because some """"insiders"""" spoke to a newspaper, just like one of his ex-lovers did :^)
>>75849778
People got scammed MMO style and are suing for it
>>75849778
Nothing, really. A Jew who used to work for Trump University revealed "shocking" information about Trump University's sale tactics: commission-based sellers aggressively try to sell Trump's product. Apparently the Jew has ties to Glenn Beck and Never Trump.
Until the past few months I had only heard great things about Trump University; they're grasping for straws, anything to attack Trump with.
>>75849778
>Someone mansplain what's going on to me.
as revealed by unsealed court documents released Tuesday, it was something that more resembled the way timeshares are sold — get people in the door and persuade them to buy for as much as possible.
Sworn testimony from a former Trump U. manager said he believed it was a "fraudulent scheme" that "preyed upon the elderly and uneducated to separate them from their money."
The idea was to get "buyers" in the door for a 90-minute seminar, where Trump U. sales associates used high-pressure tactics to try and get prospects to shell out as much as they could — $1,500 for a three-day event, then anywhere from $10,000 to $35,000 for bronze, silver and gold packages.
and it wasn't a university in any sense, so they had to change the name. it was a fraud from the get-go.
>>75849654
so your source (((snchenburg))) admits to criminal activity?
and this doesn't discredit him?
>>75849825
do you have any idea what innocent until proven guilty is in the USA?
how dare you claim an issue is settled whilst it's still in litigation?
do you know how dishonest that is?!
>>75849995
>it was a fraud from the get-go.
you base this on proven claims, or unproven claims?
>>75848626
>implying literally half of young americans arent paying and working for a scam of a degree as we speak
>>75848626
>watch a video about Trump U seminars
>financial struggling families able to pay thousands of dollars for seminars
>paying for these seminars was completely optional
>GIBS BACK MONEY WE CANT INTO YOUR SEMINARS
That's enough mansplaining for one thread, thanks.
>>75849983
Furthermore,
>Judge heavily involved in San Diego La Raza.
>Plaintiff attorney group has deep ties to the DNC and has reportedly payed Hillary 650K for speeches.
>same judge re seals documents after "accidentally" unsealing them.
This totally isn't a coordinated attempt at stumping. Not at all.
>>75850223
They literally encouraged prospective students to open up new credit cards and max them out to pay for classes.
If you support trump you're literally a cuck who wants to be exploited by the ultra rich faggots who are selling this country down the river to increase profits by half a percent.
>>75849995
Its a scummy practice but it's far from fraud. A fool and their money are easily parted. There's no doubt there's fine print in the program that says 'no guarantee of success' or some shit like that. With the lawyers he can afford there's simply no way that there isn't. Frankly I'm surprised people still go for these since TV shows demonize them as scams whenever depicted.
>>75849921
Is this based on my post from an earlier thread?
>>75850394
>literally encouraged
Ah, I must be missing the part where they were actually forced to do any of this, instead of being cucks.
This is like a bad skit from SNL.
>>75850394
>le ultra rich
>le bankers le bonuses
>le ebil one percenters stealin muh bennies
>>75850422
No, but its a good analogy that applies to the real world a lot. Of there's one thing I'm happy video games taught me it's that people are fucking cunts that will jew as hard as possible for profit.
>>75850467
You support a man who has such obvious contempt for the common man to the point where he encouraged people to ruin themselves financially for a "university" therefore you are a cuck.
>>75850613
>such obvious contempt for the common man
wew lad
>>75849016
Her hand would have been burnt immediately holding that soldering iron like that.
>>75850613
but anon, he just wanted them to follow their dreams by any means necessary, just like all those people taking out 40k loans to take women's studies courses down at the local honest & pure university :3
>>75850613
The guidelines for his salesmen are pure comedy.
>>75850613
>encouraged
Yeah, being encouraged is definitely the same as being forced into something. They had the chance to back out anytime they liked, but they fell for the flipping houses meme. Not to mention (((schnackenberg))) was doing your oh so dreaded "encouragement" as well. A guy who claims the entire time he worked there, had never seen Trump. Yet, he felt just fine encouraging people to part from their money when it benefitted him.
>>75848626
Do people not realise that all universities are literally businesses just in it to make money?
Higher education isn't some holy thing.
>>75849653
This post made me cringe
>>75850961
>A guy who claims the entire time he worked there, had never seen Trump
whose side are you on? Trump claimed that these people were hand-picked by himself, and were his "mentors" who helped him suceed.
>>75851084
Even Hobbes recognised this fact and the fact that universities getting involved in politics was cancerous.
And he was born in the late 1500's.
>>75851141
>Trump claimed
>a 30 second commercial soundbite is a claim
kek
>>75850495
Marketing 101 faggot
>>75851141
I'm on Trumps side. Shnackenberg went on to work for Glenn Beck, he's a Jew only looking out for himself. Just like all Jews.
>>75850798
You're embarrassing us.
>>75848626
Aggressive sales and broken promises.
Somehow more morally wrong than forced policy and obscene taxation.
>>75851208
>a 30 second commercial soundbite is a claim
It's illegal to lie in a commercial, 30 seconds or not.
>>75850613
>encouraged people to ruin themselves financially for a "university"
Isn't that what the entirety of academia does?
Go ahead goy, take out this $200k loans for a disgruntled faggot studies degree!
All Donald Trump is guilty of is being ahead of the curve. He realized he could sell information that wouldn't get you a job for $20,000 well before the universities started charging that much.
I like how before anything at all came out that could possibly be considered dirt, Clinton was already attacking them for promoting "buying on a low and selling on a high" the most basic fucking concept of real estate and many other trades.
>>75851283
>Aggressive sales and broken promises.
The takeaway is that his entire campaign for president is likely more of the same bullshit. Unfortunately, the same sort of people who will borrow $35 thousand dollars and give it to Trump so they can get rich are the same sort who are at his rallies chanting "make america great again".
>>75851331
It's worse.
You pay taxes to pay high school counselors to peddle that lie. It's not just academic, it's systemic.
>>75851437
The only considerable promises he's made are a 10 billion dollar construction project and something that could be done by executive order.
The tactics are hardly comparable. He's promised the least out of all the existing candidates, and has promised things he can actually do as a president without congressional approval.
>>75851312
And where did he lie? "Handpick" and "mentor" are not legally-defined terms. Nothing Trump said was a lie.
>>75851437
Sweet fallacy, my man.
>>75851437
I'm willing to bet they are Bernouts like you. OP. You pussy ass faggot. How much is HillDog paying you? Is it in WoW gold?
>>75851437
>same sort of people who will borrow $35 thousand dollars and give it to Trump so they can get rich are the same sort who are at his rallies chanting "make america great again".
No, those are Bernie supporters who borrow $35,000 and donate it so they can get rich on bennies.
>>75851560
>has promised things he can actually do
you're missing the point. In his promotions for his University, he promised things that he could conceivably do, but when you look at the materials given to his staff, it was just a ruse to extract as much money from the "students" as possible. his promises during his campaign could evaporate the same way. how many times has he said "oh golly gee I was joking about that! who took it seriously?"
>>75848626
Wow this sure is gonna save hillary from being indicted.
>>75848626
NPR is basically dead to me. They bring on editors from huffpo and buzzfeed all the time to talk about their irrelevant SJW matters. What a load of crock it's becoming. And they're always bashing Trump and never have pro-Trump guests on.
>>75848837
>whitey why u try and say i iz not scientistist? :( :( :(
>>75851851
>it was just a ruse to extract as much money from the "students" as possible
No, the only one calling it is a ruse are you, some butthurt morons, and Trump's political opponents. The materials given to his staff included sales tactics and nothing more. A service was provided for money, it's not like people received nothing for the cash they decided to pay. A scam would entail that the ones "falling for it" received nothing at all. They received a service and it didn't meet their wildly unrealistic and delusional expectations. It's not Trump U's fault that it attracted incompetent people.
>>75852849
Y-you don't understand, Trump used AGGRESSIVE sales tactics and even FORCIBLY ASKED PEOPLE who couldn't afford it to empty their bank accounts / take out mortgages to pay for classes.
PURE RUSE
>>75852849
>It's not Trump U's fault that it attracted incompetent people.
but that's exactly what it tried to do. read the manual for his sales staff, uhh, i mean instructors. they were to identify those who could be upsold from 10k to 20k or 30k, with no attention at all being paid to whether or not the "student" showed any intelligence or ability to learn the real estate market.
it's not illegal to separate a fool and his money, but at least admit that that's all this scam ever was.
>>75853104
>they were to identify those who could be upsold from 10k to 20k or 30k
you mean they were supposed to look for ways to make more money? gosh how surprising
>with no attention at all being paid to whether or not the "student" showed any intelligence or ability to learn the real estate market.
emphasis yours. nowhere in the materials does it say "heh look out for the retards especially and gouge them." They only mention that the salesmen should try to upsell when they can, which is not at all abnormal
>>75848626
>people trying to get "educated" lose money
And this is different from "real" higher education how?
>>75853104
>they were to identify those who could be upsold from 10k to 20k or 30k
every business Up sells you retard
even McShit tries to up sell you at the drive through
>>75853423
>even McShit tries to up sell you at the drive through
at least you get something for your money at mcdonalds. that's the whole point that the trump shills are glossing over. as I said, it's fine to separate a fool or an elderly person from their money, just don't pretend you are actually selling them something of value.
>>75848626
no worse than a liberal school.
>>75853534
Have you never bought a self help book or audio tape? Are you literally just paying for the paper or cd itself? Your argument is braindead.
>>75853801
>Have you never bought a self help book or audio tape?
there are no words.
>>75853104
That's not illegal nor is it their responsibility to seek out those who have the mental capacity and strength or character to succeed, it is their responsibility to make sales, and if people are willing to pay more for the same product why not convince them to? You ever been to a car dealership or furniture store? Did they every try to upsell you and not look to ensure you had the mental capacity or strength of character to pay that shit and not default?
It's like out of every sales and marketing type of career possible, you deem the only one to have any moral responsibility to be trump university and it's directly making Donald Trump responsible for the intestinal fortitude of his consumer...
Go back to the USSR you fucking cuck
>>75853918
there are no arguments
oh look it's the backstabbing jew
I haven't seen anything from the Trump campaign on this. All I have seen is negative attacks from the left but that's the story of this whole race so I'm not going to rush to judgement.
I think those of us who don't live under a rock can agree that there are definitely shady companies out there who's business model is to just take as much money as they can from a person using deceptive measures.
I also spent a short amount of time working in real estate and I can tell you there are lots of companies out there pushing their methods to new agents as well as seminars from so called 'gurus'. most of it is all horse shit but that being said I've never heard of anyone charging $35,000 for a course.
I will say this though, these people were looking to be entrepreneurs and that means taking risks, with your own money and with others. If these guys got taken for a ride by a salesman that is unfortunate but that is also part of the real world, better to lean the lesson with a few grand than with a 6 figure business venture that you never recover from.
I can also tell you from my own personal life experiences working for a company that is in the middle of multiple lawsuits, which I've done depositions for that there are many people out there looking for a hand out and free ride and they will exaggerate, misrepresent, lie, and blame blame blame whoever they can and try to suck successful people dry. If you think a pushy salesperson is bad wait til you're on the receiving end of a lawsuit and then you'll see how pathetic and greedy a person can really be.
>>75848837
this image triggers me
>>75854598
thoughtful post.
however. Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have dedicated their entire lives to helping improve the world, while Mr. Trump has spent his trying to amass wealth, and he has been shown to say anything one day if it suits him, and to deny having said it the next day, or if proof is given, he then says that it was a joke.
>>75849995
>charged for 3 day seminars
>it wasn't even a real university
Are people this fucking stupid? If you pay for a 3 day seminar no shit it's not a fucking university, that's not even false advertising at that point, it's just a cool name.
>house of blues
>but the carpet is red, this is no blue house at all!! I'll see you in court!!
>>75850394
I wonder how auto dealerships exist at all, or regular universities with toxic practices such as "encouraging opening up credit cards"
>>75854993
>Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have dedicated their entire lives to helping improve the world,
How you figure? Bernie Sanders has literally done nothing in congress but talk and not influence policy, while hillary clinton laughs about having started wars, ignored military personnel and being involved in multiple actually illegal acts. The only thing they have improved it their wallets and generated no positive value to anyone but themselves.
Also, note that even the unsealed documents show the overwhelming majority of the ones who went to the courses were satisfied, and that the sales playbook is little different from the one of a normal real estate salesman.
>>75855179
To be fair, America's litigation culture did make red bull get sued because it doesn't give you out right wings.
>>75854993
>>Hillary improve the world
Ask the 500,000 dead Iraqis, Syrians, and Libyans
CTR in full force
>>75848626
It's like calling fast food reprehensible when they ask if you want fries with that or an upsize.
>>75855923
Yup. Same thing. Except one costs you two dollars and you get a larger order of fries and the other costs $35k and gives you nothing.
>>75854993
Bernie hasn't accomplished a single thing with his life. It is not surprising that a man who has lived on nothing but government money his entire life is a proponent of socialism. He is pathetic and not fit to lead his own life let alone a nation.
Hilary has spent her life ruining others lives. She used illegal means to defend the rapist of a 12 year old girl.
She ruined the lives of the women who accused Bill Clinton of sexual assault.
She destabilized an entire region, with thousands of people dying as a result, including Americans.
But here we are talking about Trump University overcharging people who signed up of their own free will.
Makes me sick.
>>75851851
>it was just a ruse to extract as much money from the "students" as possible
you just described every business ever created
>>75853985
posting a jew
>>75854993
>Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have dedicated their entire lives to helping improve the world
tht is some fine bait, young man, I take off my hat to you
>>75848626
desu they should've saved this till the end of the campaign
now this will be old news by the time TRump goes full blast on hill's foundation shenanigans
>>75855320
Not to mention Federal Student Loans...
I guess it's okay if it's the government pushing you to spend all your money and take out massive loans to go to a "real" school.
what DOES this three-day seminar teach you anyway? when it comes to business I am eternally stumped
