/pol/ and TrumpfagsBTFO for good by based Hitchens
Who?
>>75761816
>not Christopher (rip)
>literally who
>>75761816
Who gives a shit what that fag thinks?
>>75761977
>>75762393
Old fashioned British Tory, best political commentator in the UK imo.
>>75762518
His political commentary is very well thought out, he's certainly not a fag.
He finds US politics dull, plus he's quite the moraliser so I doubt he enjoys Trump's extravagance.
>>75761816
I wonder what he would say if asked what exactly he disagrees with Trump about. I don't understand these "right wing" people who are strongly against Trump. I can understand thinking that Trump isn't an ideal candidate (though I disagree) but how can you be right wing but want to fight him?
Morality man should be more worried about the future of his own island.
>>75762695
What does he dislike about Trump? Is it just personality? If so, that's hardly an "intelligent person" reason.
>>75762695
>uk
>relevant
he needs to worry about his own country, that is royally fucked up for good.
>>75762961
"Donald Trump is a symptom, not a disease. The disease is the death of real political conservatism: a cool, intelligent reluctance to believe that all change is good, a love for the established, the particular and the well-worn.
During the 1980s, many people mistook Thatcherism and Reaganism, actually a wild form of liberalism, for conservatism. They lapped up the temporary riches it provided and now find themselves yearning for leaders to take them back to a world of secure jobs and secure borders.
Mr Trump, Olympically stupid and ignorant in many ways and virtually thoughtless, has the low feral cunning to spot this need and to pretend to meet it.
Of course, he hasn’t a clue how to go about it. But it’s not impossible that such a person will gain high office before long."
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2015/12/goodbye-christianity-hello-multicultural-wasteland.html
>>75761816
>its an "OP fails at a twitter bait thread" episode
>>75763040
So no commentary on Trump's policy?
>>75761816
Nice logical fallacy.
>If you believe X, you are not intelligent
>>75763040
Just from that I passage, I still don't know what he disagrees with Trump about. All he's doing is pathetically insulting him.
>>75763040
>No true Scotsmen
>I don't like him cause he's a doodie head.
Fuck his opinions.
Fuck him.
And fuck you.
>>75763040
So he just doesn't like him? Well I'm a #petermissile now
>>75761816
As much as I like Peter's takes and debate skills, he has essentially relegated himself to accepting the immigrant takeover in the UK.
I've heard him in an interview basically suggest that it's too late to do anything about it and that he is resigned to the future.
He is an old-school type conservative who thinks political views and ethos are more important than someone's race and that they will triumph in the end. I doubt it though...
If you're not willing to fight for your race and culture, Peter, don't stand in the way of those who do.
>>75763272
and yet he has the nerve to call Trump the stupid and thoughtless one
>>75763028
He is worried about the UK, he rarely if ever comments on the US.
His whole schtick is that the UK is dead, and he's documenting the decline.
>US
>not royally fucked up
>60%
>sanctuary cities
>SJW culture
>>75763194
>>75763241
Correct. I don't agree with his views on this. His UK commentary is spot-on, however.
>>75763272
>I don't like him cause he's a doodie head.
>Fuck his opinions.
>Fuck him.
Irony.
>it's a 'borderline retarded americans bump a bait thraed on /pol/ for the four hunderedth time today' episode
>>75761816
>not Christopher hitchens
>>75761816
I've lost quite a deal of respect for Peter Hitchens over this shit.
How can a man who prides himself on morality think that electing Hillary Clinton is acceptable?
Who gives two fucks about Peter Hitchins?
>>75762393
>>75763423
Ah yes, a Trotskyist atheist truly is the embodiment of /pol/.
>>75761816
Does he actually prefer Clinton? Has he ever given any reason for it?
>>75763336
>I've heard him in an interview basically suggest that it's too late to do anything about it and that he is resigned to the future.
He's right to be honest. I won't give up completely because I was brought up that way but I'm not exactly hopeful. The problem is we're very nearly at the point it will take incredibly drastic measures which nobody would be even willing to consider to set things right. Leaving the EU is barely even the beginning.
>>75763349
I have yet to see someone who disagrees with Trump not use those two points as the main reason for the dislike.
>>75763443
Just as there are some people who attracted to Trump purely because of his personality, there are some (particularly those in the "intellectual" fields) who are turned of because of it. They want someone tame, boring and cucky like them, frankly.
>>75763545
No, he doesn't.
He just doesn't care for US politics.
He tells people not to vote in UK elections because all the parties are awful, I'd imagine he holds a similar view for the US.
"Stupidity and ignorance rule the world. The trouble is that the stupid and the ignorant think that they are clever and well-informed.
Take Mrs Hillary Clinton, next President of the United States and former chief of American foreign policy. She has directly compared Russia’s Vladimir Putin to Hitler. And she has compared events in Crimea to the Czech crisis of 1938."
So Hillary is "stupid and ignorant".
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/neo-conservatism/
>>75763607
This may be true in the UK, but why then is Peter choosing to tear down Trump? It's not beyond all hope here in the US and Trump is probably our last chance to set things on the right track.
Ive honestly started to hate this dour autistc professional contrarian kike cunt
>Moans about their never going to be a EU referendum
>when one is happening he huffs "hurr durr I referendums are un-British, Im not going to vote"
>Feels bad about being a typical Jew agent provocatuer of the revolution of 69
>so the whole country must therefore suffer in atonement with him
I think he's actually autistic. He and his brother were both Anglo-kike parasites, Peter just slightly less evil.
>>75763775
>Thinks Clinton is going to be the next president of the US
>Not a fucking retard
pick one
Just another Tory scared of politically incorrect opinions while complaining about political correctness all the time
>>75761816
I might be to late
>>75764003
>Is wrong on one issue.
>Cannot be correct on other issues.
>>75761816
Best Hitchens is already dead Hitchens.
CH was cool.
>>75764070
She will be tho
/pol/ actually believes they are going to let Trump por the Brexit happen? kek
I said this to Stormfags back in June 2015, and they wouldn't listen.
Trump is planted there to anger the the left, let them recruit more, and become more radical.
It's very easy for the American media to twist Trumps basic wording, and make the "right" and Conservatives look like rednecks, racists, sexists, islamophobes, and all the other shitty buzzwords. Trump also posts wrong or out of date facts on twitter, plus stupid spelling mistakes and other shit. This makes him and his supporters look stupid.
I like Trump as a person, but his politics are blunt and unclear. I know his "basically" trying to come across as a national conservative, like me. But the way he's expressing his views are us blunt as a fucking sponge.
Trump is a shill. Stormfags deny it.
>MUH MORALITYYYY
what is this, 1789? get with the times you dead fuck.
>country losing its identity and culture from millions of migrants
>power to determine their own path rapidly diminishing as the EU usurps their authority
>we will address this by criticizing and American politician that hasn't been elected yet
Get your shit together Britbongs. Trump has nothing to do with you. And even if he gets elected...he'll have nothing to do with you.
>>75761816
literally BTFO
>>75764164
You seem to believe that /pol/ does not want radicalization
Most of us are accelerationists here, and the Trump is the chaos candidate
>>75761816
It's annoying when people post this shit. If someone asked Hitch the same question about Hillary he would have said the exact same thing he said for Trump. Every candidate is shit in certain ways.
>>75763423
You mean the drunk atheist who openly admitted he was a communist. What about him?
>>75764059
yeah but this is a peter hitchens critism thread. i see why too many stupid brits post his pictures like he's based. he advocates for brown britain, RAISE YOUR STANDARDS
>>75764164
blunt and unclear? huh?
>>75763040
>neocons
>conservative
>>75764338
>brought to you by the same retards who think obama is cucking their genitals with Dark magic
youre just desperate to rebrand anarco luddism arent you?
Peter hates Trump for the same reason Neo-Cons hate Trump
>LE NOT A TRUE CONSERVATIVE MEME
True conservatism has failed miserably. Just look at how the leftists rule the fucking world. FUCK TRUE CONSERVATISM.
>>75762781
Just like the "true conservatives" of the Republican party, they aren't really right-wing anymore.
They have, knowingly or not, accepted the leftist dogma of equality and rejected the right-wing dogma of hierarchy.
I don't know wether his problem is greed, fear or stupidity, but that's basically the gist of it.
>>75764148
Unfortunately I don't possess a crystal ball.
>>75764245
He's written books and hundreds of articles on Britain. All that's available about Trump is a tweet and one paragraph in an article, that again mainly dealt with Britain.
>>75764372
This is true, if exaggerated. He believes "there's only one race, the human race". Doesn't invalidate everything else he's said.
>>75764381
That's what he's saying.
>>75764483
> obama is cucking their genitals with Dark magic
huh? That is the most bizarre strawman I have read ths week
>>75763775
I love Peter on so many things but
>Don't vote
>Someone still gets in
Why not vote for the lesser evil? Nigga is balding and butthurt.
>>75763194
Trump has policies?
>>75761816
>Don't support any political candidate under any circumstances if you don't agree with 99% of their beliefs t. Peter Hitchens
>>75762912
That age-old European 'We're better than those racist Americans" shit will be their undoing.
>>75764629
No of course not. Run along or you'll miss out on getting your opinions from talking heads on "news" media.
>>75764551
i was agreeing with him.
god, neocons are scum.
Most of them owe their allegiance more to their party than to the country.
If the heads of the republican party asked them to follow them into hell, they'd do it.
>>75763040
>the people are unhappy that their union jobs have been lost to globalism
>they are somehow stupid for demanding trade and immigration policies to allow for new union jobs
>Trump is a doodoohead and I don't like him
British humor, everyone.
>>75764599
I agree with this. You can sort of see the logic, you don't want to provide legitimacy to an organisation you dislike - but as someone pointed out, to counter Peter's metaphor of:
"If you go into a shop, and there's nothing you want, you don't buy anything"
Someone said: "But if the product controls your life for the next five years, surely you should buy the least harmful option?"
>>75764662
Christian self-righteousness is one hell of a drug
>>75763040
He ain't wrong, sad to say. I think Trump has a better heart than what he's implying but he's definitely winging it. Which is something you don't want to do with the presidency.
Sad that trump is our only choice. I've met a lot of good men. But I guess it takes more than just being a good man.
>>75763040
>blabbidy blabbidy blah
>we need to lose with dignity!
Fuck cuckservatives. Fuck them all to death.
>>75761816
Fucking hell what a pompous dickhead.
It's always just the same fucking rhetoric
>I'm smart because I don't like this lol xD I said so.
>>75764822
the sad thing is that they believe that the proof of that Trump is an idiot, is the most common sense policy one wouldd ask for: no more mudslimes
>>75764761
Not to the party. See how they scurry when trump is the nominee.
Their allegiance is solely to Israel.
>>75764778
This isn't humour.
>>75764784
I hate these apathetic fuckers. Peter is so right when it comes to capital punishment, the police, morality, marriage, and degeneracy. He just fucks up by being a sad cunt.
>The parties are shit
>Stand for MP then
>No.
>The parties are shit
>Are you going to vote for one that isn't as bad?
>No
>There will never be a referendum!
>There is
>I'M NOT VOTING IN IT.
Fucking cunt. I think he just wants to be pissed off al the time.
>>75764784
Yeah. If you aren't going to go 1776 on some lobsterbacks not voting is really stupid.
>>75764822
>we need to lose with dignity!
His position is more "we have lost and we have no dignity"
He's not a cuckservative, moron. He calls the UK conservative party the "Socialist Worker's Party".
>>75764923
>Their allegiance is solely to Israel.
The leaders, sure.
But the individuals aren't self aware enough to understand this.
They think "Trump will never be the nominee"
They think "Trump will tear the party apart"
They think "Trump is a threat"
Then when the kikes who run the party realize they could hurt trumps base by supporting him.
They think "Trump is our chance to destroy the democrats"
They think "Trump is our candidate"
They care not for this country.
Just for their petty politics.
All the while the kikes pull their strings.
>>75761816
The wrong brother died.
>>75765078
Peter Hitchens also thinks that the UKIP is a laughable non-party
he is nothing but a defeatist obsessed with a moronic christian moralism, scared of taking chances
>>75764980
He did once try and stand for MP, but was roundly defeated by the party machine (and he stands no chance of winning anyway)
As I've said, he's wrong in my view to not vote.
I don't remember him saying there would never be a referendum, his point is that they're anti-Parliamentary, anti-British and a device of the party-political machine to push through their desired policies (which they are).
>>75761977
>>75762393
A closet communist. He was openly one until his fellow comrades ashamed him and he had to hide it. Now he pretends to stand up for "British values" because no one else will take him
He is a typical dhimmi only concerned with "extremism"
> I think we would be a happier country if we had never encouraged mass immigration in the post-war era. The fact that it is almost taboo to say this simple thing is an example of the problems it has caused.
> But I also grasp that the immigration has happened, that we have new neighbours, and that it is our absolute duty to get on with them and befriend them as best as we can.
> And this is why I am so scornful of the windbags and panic-spreaders who now seek to make an issue out of the supposed takeover of some state schools by Muslims.
bla bla bla I am not racist, bla bla bla NOT ALL MUSLIMS, bla bla britons shall resign to the loss of their homeland because it is not like there have ever been mass expulsions in history
>>75764788
You could not be more wrong.
The anti American sentiments in Europe are voiced by secular progressive urbanites.
>>75765426
PROTIP: those "secular" urbanites are actually dogmatic, radical puritans, obsessed with virtue signalling their sainthood and their love for their enemies
>>75765215
He did, and UKIP was rife with in-fighting, amateruism and scandals. It's also libertarian not conservative - I support them, but one can see how this leads to his derision of them.
>he is nothing but a defeatist obsessed with a moronic christian moralism, scared of taking chances
I believe he said that a defeatist is someone who works from within to bring about defeat, whereas all he's doing is acknowledging that we've already been defeated.
As for scared of taking chances - of course he is, that's what conservatism is. And that's a good value in my view, you want to take as few risks as possible for a country as the lives of millions of Britons depend on it.
>>75765426
see:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2126802/Christians-likely-left-wing-liberal-views-immigration-equality.html
>>75763516
Fuck off, Chris was cool
Except for the whole Iraq thing
>>75765564
> And that's a good value in my view, you want to take as few risks as possible for a country as the lives of millions of Britons depend on it.
that sounds castrated as hell, and nothing like the people that conquered 1/3 of the world
>>75765573
>chris
>cool
Only because he hated the Clintons and Islam.
He was a trotsky loving marxist faggot. He was also too much of a fedora tipper.
Trump is a paleoconservative. His politics hearken to a time before Reagan. Sure, he's not a real neoconservative, but he is a real Old Conservative. At least the Trump who has ran in this election has so far shown himself to be one.
All of you who were hoping for a Buchanan win. All of you who watched Perot eagerly. All of you who yearn for a time when the Republican Party spoke to the bedrock of American society... all of you should be very happy and hopeful that a man like Trump is about to become president.
America has and has had a severe leadership crisis since the Clinton Era. Presidents have come to the Whitehouse promising one thing -remember when Dubya ran in 2000 as an isolationist?- and delivering something very different. Hopefully Trump doesn't go down the same path that Dubya did. Hopefully he has the courage to tell Mexico for real to build the wall and the courage to seriously pull all troops out of Germany unless Merkel starts paying for them. These are the right decisions that would bring both America and the world forward.
Even better, a Trump win will ignite an alt-right revolution in Europe. The pressure his presidency will put on Merkel will crack her fucking party in half and send that bitch to prison, which also needs to happen.
>>75764822
this
cuckservatives are fucking losers. they watch and complain as they lose and tear down alternative solutions that may actually save us.
they're fucking retarded.
Also christopher hitchens was much more /pol/....young NEETS on here think they're religious but only out of loyalty to their family. nearly no one on this board truly believes in god or the teachings of oldschool, real religion
>>75765690
And we only conquered when the risks were outweighed by the rewards, which is what I'm saying.
You think recklessness is a good way to run a country?
>>75763612
Trump is also an unqualified, arrogant buffoon and blowhard.
>>75764760
>of course not
only correct answer.
>>75765078
>Giving up isn't being a cuck
It's the definition, bong
>>75765976
>blowhard
>unqualified
>arrogant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx651fvHMPo
When the guy needs to not be a showman, he is informed and direct as fugg.
>>75765564
>a defeatist is someone who works from within to bring about defeat
that would be more of a saboteur
>whereas all he's doing is acknowledging that we've already been defeated.
the important thing to do is pick yourself back up after defeat, if you can't do that you are a defeatist
>>75766047
What ever confirms your biases sport.
>>75765928
In an extreme situation radical measures are not vice, specially when countering equally radical measures by the Left. Reverting the immigration invasion that started in 1997 would be a good start.
But if your priority is not to rock the boat too much, so that britons can peacefully sink into degeneracy and be outbred by the colonials in their own homeland, then sure, conservatism makes sense
>>75765544
wise word from rareflag
seriously what even is that flag
>>75765544
Just because you hate Christianity doesn't make that true.
>>75765976
>Trump is a doodie head
Try again.
>>75761816
The wrong Hitchens died. Sad!
>>75763040
>virtually thoughtless
>stupid and ignorant
It's almost like he doesn't realize Trump has been right about fucking everything for 40 years
>>75766064
trump is more of a snake-oil salesman or carnival barker than a showman
>>75766204
The leaders of the Christian Churches support my position
It is the POPE, not the atheistic Dawkins, that said that "Europe should welcomed the arabic invasion"
It was the CHRISTIAN DEMOCRATS of Merkel, supported by the german churches and by all the clergy of Europe (with the exception of one orthodox church in Bulgaria) that started the current phase of the western ordeal
You are delusional if you believe that a cult based around the idea that the meek shall inherit the Earth and that the strong shall fall won't turn a civilization onto its own head and sooner or later poison it to death
>>75766354
you got me
I'm a #Cruzlim now
>>75766052
>Fighting against something with no hopes of solving it is a better use of the last years of a man's life than documenting the decline so others can learn from it.
I said he's not a cuckservative, as in he's not part of the modern "conservative" movement.
>>75766119
In Hitchens'' view there's nothing we can do to revert the situation, the only thing to do is "live, as peacefully as possible, with our neighbours" He also suggested emigrating.
>>75766195
Yes, but Hitchens does not see the racial and demographic aspects of the problem. I think he also just generally rejects radicalism, and I think he would consider mass deportations to be morally wrong.
>>75765798
Soon Germanbro soon
To your point my mom voted Buchanan, Perot, and is voting Trump.
Dad still a Bush appoligist but military guys like war I guess.
>>75766337
He probably doesn't.
>>75765393
I used to be a communist. What's your point?
>>75764526
>He believes "there's only one race, the human race"
in public or deep down?
>>75765789
>He was also too much of a fedora tipper
>this is a bad thing
>>75761816
Peter is right most of the time, but there are a few topics in which he is pants-on-head retarded. Trump is one of them.
#RessurectChris2016
>>75766379
Let me guess, you're a neopagan?
Because you can't be an atheist, everybody knows atheists are secretly ultrareligious Christians.
>>75766675
I'm not married to the man so I can't tell you.
>>75763040
Adding him to the list called:
>Another popular intellectual/political commentator with a bunch of non arguments vs DJT
>Examples: Thomas Sowell and Ben Shapiro
>>75766715
Progressive Urbanites are not atheistic, they are dogmatic as hell
They also believe in absurd ideas like karma, while embracing christian moralisms
The only rational position is agnostic pragmatism
>>75763040
That's some high-octane jewish subversion right there. Lots of prose and not a single iota of content relating to the subject matter at hand. Overflowing with superfluous literary flourish that conveys nothing except contempt for that which is not a noble self-effacing and effeminate loser mentality.
I miss him
>>75764496
This is true. The Tories haven't been right-wing since more than half of this board were even born, but the Tories were started by, and continue to have the largest amount of Jews of any political party here so it's not really a big surprise. Unless you're a Tory supporter obviously, it never goes down well it's a shame facts are facts or they might have a point.
>>75766879
The glove fits.
>>75766939
A lot of words to just say "not an argument"
>>75766492
>"live, as peacefully as possible, with our neighbours"
A wise Buddhist once said "You can be as peaceful and loving as one can be, but you can't sleep next to a mad dog"
this was said in reference to Muslims in Burma, and if it gets bad enough in the UK you might start saying it too.
>He also suggested emigrating
so, just give up and leave? this is a good example of defeatism. I don't know a whole lot about Peter Hitchens, but from my understanding he seems like a man who's interested in his perceived intellectualism, but lacking any principles. he talks a lot of talk, but stands up for nothing.
>>75766931
Progressive urbanites arent atheist?
You can't be dogmatic while being atheist?
Do you even know the meaning of the words you use?
>>75761816
Peter has very particular tastes. We get fussier in our old age.
There's no BTFO here. Grow up kiddo
>>75767535
Fuck off, cunt!
>>75763028
>America is the most powerful and influential nation on Earth
>Non Americans have no right to express views about America
Idiot.
>>75766492
>documents labeled as hate speech and subsequently destroyed by the people who you think it's pointless to fight.
You don't fight for anything you don't stand for anything and you're the definition of a cuck.
>>75761816
>Why on earth would any intelligent person be hoping for such a thing?
Don't know about you, but I think Trump is a pretty smart guy
>>75767293
I like "If you meet a swordsman, draw your sword - so not recite poetry to one who is not a poet."
I'm already saying these things, but I'm one of the few who are.
>this is a good example of defeatism.
No, it's - in his view - the recognition of a defeat that has already happened. We fought the battles and lost the war - there's nothing that can be done. It's all merely semantics, the point is that he thinks there's nothing we can do.
>I don't know a whole lot about Peter Hitchens, but from my understanding he seems like a man who's interested in his perceived intellectualism, but lacking any principles. he talks a lot of talk, but stands up for nothing.
Then you've misread him. Peter has a keen sense of justice and of right - he's been fighting a campaign recently to save the name of Bishop George Bell, condemned as a child molester after his death, and widely accepted as so by the police, the media etc - with no court hearing or investigation.
>hitchens dislikes trump
makes me wonder just how honest hitchens is
>>75767606
ooooooooooo
C'mon Dad. Don't make me put you in a home.
>>75767710
What the fuck are you on about? I'm saying that's Hitchens' view, not mine.
And what's going to be destroyed as hate speech? Hicthens' books?
>>75767517
They are not. Have you actually talked to them? They are supersititous as hell, and their "rationalism" is skin depth
Again, most of the people pushing for the most demented stupid left-wing stuff are christians, and the ones that tried to
I shall ask you again, who is the one demanding more mass immigration?
a) Richard Dawkins
b) The Pope
Who is the one that opened the borders wide for islam in the EU?
a) The Christian Democrat Angela Merkel
b) The Secular Nationalist Marine Le Pen
Just because you think that Christianity is part of your identity because for the last 20 generations or so your parents belonged to that semitic cult, it does not imply that Christian Morality is somehow good
I strongly recommend to read this article, those "progressives" you talk about are obsessed with Christian Moralism
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2126802/Christians-likely-left-wing-liberal-views-immigration-equality.html
>>75766931
Oh and yeah, people who believe in Buddhist concepts are puritanical Christians.
wew lad
>>75766696
I swear, the only people who hate atheists are butthurt theists who advocate stupid shit.
I'm an atheist who knows a lot of moderate Christians, and we've always been cool with one another. The ones who refuse to get along are always the ones who want to give the government I live a Biblical enema.
>>75767976
protip: they are not buddhist at all!! They are roleplaying a form of Christian Moral Deism and calling it "Buddhism"
They are playing to be moral christian saints that love their enemies and demand that the weak inherit the planet as Jesus demanded
Have you actually read any of what real buddhists think about Islam?
>>75767976
Notice that the Left is actually freaked out about the slow but continuos collapse of Christianity, because it is only thanks to christianity that they can turn people into cucks!
See:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/27/the-guardian-view-on-disappearing-christianity-suppose-its-gone-for-ever
> A post-Christian Europe will of course have a morality but it won’t be Christian morality. It will likely be less universalist. The idea that people have some rights just because they are human, and entirely irrespective of merit, certainly isn’t derived from observation of the world. It arose out of Christianity, no matter how much Christians have in practice resisted it. Although human rights have become embedded in our institutions at the same time as religious observance has been in decline, they could become vulnerable in an entirely post-Christian environment where the collective memory slips from the old moorings inherited from Christian ethics.
>>75762781
Peter is very socially conservative whereas Trump appears to be fairly socially liberal.
>>75764164
>but his politics are blunt and unclear
nigga just go on his website and read his policies, they're clearly laid out there
>>75767976
At the end of this video leftists in the Swedish Parliament actually confesses that all they care about is to implement Christian Moral Utopianism!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa4LtSgOeao
talk about confessing how insane you are!
>>75762695
>British
>not a fag
Pick one.
>>75768509
People get easily confussed and think he is dumb only because TRUMP IS NOT A POLITICIAN
He is not in the bussiness of creating utopias where everyone is happy. If he has to create a wall or ban mudslimes to make USA greater he will, but it does not mean he will stick to those policies, only that he will do "whatever it takes"
>>75762393
>>75763423
Why isn't this a Christopher Hitchens thread yet?
>Christopher Hitchens - Islam is Bullshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tN75e5gtw4
>Christopher Hitchens on Islam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an7TaDQ5Yo0
>Christopher Hitchens "Islam is Bullshit and I am Offended"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIUyMwOJ3aw
>>75768490
i hate social conservatives
they are the biggest autists, they would rather let rome burn than compromise an inch
it's so fucking stupid
>>75768869
Never mind that the ideas they promote are openly anti right wing
If it was for Social Conservatives there would be 50 million more blacks in USA!
Any rational right-wing people would be pro-abortion, but Christian Moralism clouds their minds
>>75769022
Isn't abortion decreasing white birth rates?
>>75767960
>Again, most of the people pushing for the most demented stupid left-wing stuff are christians.
Ofcourse, when even the secularists and the atheists are Christian. Left wing is Christian. Everything is Christian. It's all just Christians being Christian and doing Christian stuf.
>I shall ask you again, who is the one >demanding more mass immigration?
>a) Richard Dawkins
>b) The Pope
Doesn't matter, they are both Christian. So obviously everything is the fault of Christians.
>Who is the one that opened the borders wide >for islam in the EU?
>a) The Christian Democrat Angela Merkel
>b) The Secular Nationalist Marine Le Pen
If Merkel didn't do it, Marine would have. She is a secularist, and thus Christian. This means she is a leftist and pro immigration.
>Just because you think that Christianity is part of your identity because for the last 20 generations or so your parents belonged to that semitic cult, it does not imply that Christian Morality is somehow good
I was raised in a secular household. So I guess that makes me a Christian.
>>75769324
Not nearly as it is slowing down the black one. Whites are smart enough to use birth control.
If the fucking Vatican would stop telling juanita to keep it we'd probably be 75 percent white.
>>75769324
Not in USA. Whites don't abort their babies, at least not as often as non-whites
Europe needs to import Planned Parenthood and start to reduce the heck out of muslim birthrates
>>75769500
> missing the point altogether
I said that the progressive urbanites you talked about were christian, not that actual atheists or secularists were
Come on, it is not that hard to understand
>>75769324
most likely, but the truth is that most people who do abort are usually in an unfavorable socio-economic status to begin with, and wouldn't be able to properly raise children.
>>75769500
>She is a secularist, and thus Christian.
how do you figure one=the other?
>This means she is a leftist and pro immigration.
baseless conjecture
>>75769737
So how do you know wether the progressive secularist atheist you are talking to is actually a puritanical Christian or a real progressive secularist atheist?
>>75761816
Based hitchens is dead
>>75764812
The only response I agree with. Well said.
>>75769908
Confusing, isn't it?
>>75770018
An actual, non-"progressive" atheist has literally zero reasons to believe that God will punish him if he does not love his enemies
An actual, non-"progressive" atheist would see Islamic immigration as a threat to his increasingly secular society
Being probably a dutch speaker, surely you do remember Pim Fortuyn, an atheistic faggot that opposed islamization?
That is what people without moral gods actually do!!
>>75768490
>Trump appears to be fairly socially liberal
stop this bullshit
Trump is a federalist, just like the founding fathers were. abortion and gay marriage arent supposed to be federal issues, they're states rights issues
>>75770018
Mind you, Pim Fortuyn did that in a moment where the entire state and system of churches was pro-Islam.
Without him, Geert Wilders would not be a thing, as he inherited the voting base Pim created
>>75770453
Based Luxembourg
>>75763040
>yfw you know deep down he's right but I want to MAGA anyways
>>75761816
And in that one tweet you can see why the old conservative establishment is dead, and why people like Hitchens have resigned themselves to writing an epitaph rather than save our dying civilisation.
>>75770389
So basically, progressive= Christian.
Wich it obviously is not.
>>75763040
NOT
>>75770875
Why the fuck not?
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2126802/Christians-likely-left-wing-liberal-views-immigration-equality.html
>>75770139
I thought you were purporting these views yourself, my mistake.
>>75763040
i concur
>>75770875
> 'Second, and more counter-intuitively, religious people are more likely to be politically progressive.
> 'They put a greater value on equality than the non-religious, are more likely to be welcoming of immigrants as neighbours and when asked are more likely to put themselves on the left of the political spectrum.'
> The report, based on an analysis of the European Values Study, found that 55 per cent of people with faith consider themselves on the left of politics compared with 40 per cent on the right.
> Forty one per cent of people who believe in a faith would place equality before freedom compared with just 36 per cent of those who are not religious.
>>75770875
Leftists scared of losing their moral base
> A post-Christian Europe will of course have a morality but it won’t be Christian morality. It will likely be less universalist. The idea that people have some rights just because they are human, and entirely irrespective of merit, certainly isn’t derived from observation of the world. It arose out of Christianity, no matter how much Christians have in practice resisted it. Although human rights have become embedded in our institutions at the same time as religious observance has been in decline, they could become vulnerable in an entirely post-Christian environment where the collective memory slips from the old moorings inherited from Christian ethics.
>>75763040
M O R A L I T Y
>>75763040
What country does he think he's talking about? If anything, Trump is a return to form for American conservatives. It just shows you that even someone as bigged up as this guy can be completely ignorant.
>>75763040
"Peter Hitchens is a symptom, not a disease. The disease is the death of real political conservatism: a cool, intelligent reluctance to believe that all change is good, a love for the established, the particular and the well-worn.
During the 1980s, many people mistook Thatcherism and Reaganism, actually a wild form of liberalism, for conservatism. They lapped up the temporary riches it provided and now find themselves yearning for leaders to take them back to a world of secure jobs and secure borders.
Mr Trump, Olympically stupid and ignorant in many ways and virtually thoughtless, has the low feral cunning to spot this need and to pretend to meet it.
Of course, he hasn’t a clue how to go about it. But it’s not impossible that such a person will gain high office before long."
>>75761816
>When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him
morality man reveals his jewishness
>>75763040
>Mr Trump, Olympically stupid and ignorant in many ways
kek, morality man goes into the trash
amazing how many kikes are getting orders to reveal themselves this cycle
>>75764164
>out of date facts
you what mate?
>>75763040
>>75763040
"Peter Hitchens is a symptom, not a disease. The disease is political conservatism: a silly, cowardly obsession with all keeping the boat from rowing too much, so that rich socialites can continue making fortunes at the expense of the nation-state.
During the 1980s, many conservatives embraced Thatcher and Reagan, and turned them into heroes, while failing to realize they fixed shit, and now we can only hope that people won't vote for Trump so that we can keep our secure, cozy degenerating lives.
Mr Trump, who says things I would not dare to say, could row the boat too much, and be a menace to the system.
Of course, he does not submit to silly dogmatism, but it’s not impossible that such a person will gain high office before long."
>>75771451
I assume he sees Trump as a continuation of Reagan.
>>75771596
Hilarious. And pointless.
>>75771954
By all means disregard the entire commentary of Hitchens, most of which is not even related to Trump, because of comments on an issue he doesn't care about.
>>75772259
I like how I am able to call Peter Hitchens a retard.
Afterwards I call him a bigot for disagreeing with my opinion.
This is great.
>>75767919
Never said that was your view, it's his and hes a cuck for having them.
And everything is hate speech if it hurts someone's feelings
>>75772262
>I assume he sees Trump as a continuation of Reagan.
Reagan is no different from other leaders. They all stuck their fingers into everything. Reagan was actually successful though, and it causes mass butthurt for some reason.
American politicians, especially, are historically famed for being bombastic, confrontational and very public.
>>75771332
So, the 40 per cent of Christians who consider themselves on the right aren't really Christian?
Or is it that they aren't actually right-wing?
>>75772262
>By all means disregard the entire commentary of Hitchens, most of which is not even related to Trump, because of comments on an issue he doesn't care about.
I wasn't asking for your permission, you arrogant faggot
>>75763040
Whlile I don't completely agree, he does have a point. Trump is superficial in many areas, and the reason he is popular is because there are no conservative alternatives, and no one dares to speak the truth.
>>75772688
those "christians" are at odds with their own religious doctrine and their own churches,
Progressives = Radical Christians in denial, supported by the Churches
Right Wing "Christians" = Pagans in denial, rejected by the Churches
It is actually an interesting dynamic to see, right-wing Lega Nord, which used to pride itself as a catholic conservative movement, has become more secularist as the Pope has called them out on being unchristian
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/migrant-crisis-anti-immigration-leader-salvini-tells-pope-francis-we-dont-need-your-1506650
http://www.thelocal.it/20130716/northern-league-tells-pope-to-stay-out-of-politics
With some hope, thanks to the Churches, all rational people will have left that insane apocalyptic death cult, and Europe will finally find itself free from that wicked jewish poison that turns whites into either demented apocalypse-obsessed Israel-first wackos demanding the end of our world, or cuckish progressive nihilists that wanna die for the Other to be like Jesus
Hopefully you will free as well of it, as churches abandon it, and you realize that your ancestors were forced into that poisonous cult by orders of CharleMagne
>>75772523
>You don't fight for anything you don't stand for anything and you're the definition of a cuck.
Seems like this was addressed to me?
>>75772567
>American politicians, especially, are historically famed for being bombastic, confrontational and very public.
Yes. One can see why this style is not popular with Brits of a certain age.
>>75772802
>Not getting the point.
Retard.
Are you a child who cannot read opinions you disagree with for fear it will trigger you?
>>75766179
>sport
you don't have to be upset
>>75773517
He didn't sound upset at all, kiddo
I stopped taking Peter seriously a long time ago. The morality memes are still funny, but I can't help but groan when I hear him moan about marijuana turning people stupid for the hundredth time, or his facile criticisms of free trade and privatisation --which he knows nothing of. He's an obstinate old contrarian who, unlike his brother, has no charisma.
>>75763194
>>75763241
>>75763272
>>75763329
>>75766879
>>75770965
hey guys, how come it wasn't a problem when you RINOs didn't have a word to say about ted cruz's policy positions and instead made fun of his face and posted pictures of him as a rat or mindlessly repeated the ingenious 'he got a loan once' line, but it suddenly becomes a problem when any negative remark about donald trump isn't purely factual and perfectly policy-oriented
is it because you're hypocritical idiots maybe?
>He dislikes Trump because he's a too liberal
>"huur duur what a kike, how dare he not felate le meme America great again man!"
Trump is the best option, but you newfags need to stop pretending he isn't flawed.
He is a liberal and has no idea how he's going to achieve most of the things he proposes.
>"Don't worry folks, it's going to be great. I'm going to surround myself with the best people, such great people, we're gonna make such great deals. Huge deals! Its gonna be terrific!"
>mfw
>>75773269
>Are you a child who cannot read opinions you disagree with for fear it will trigger you?
the jews are very good at being rightwing, except they always end up revealing themselves
happened with shapiro, happened with milo, now it's happened with hitchens
I wonder if molyjew will surprise us
>>75774183
calling a multibillionaire stupid, top kek
>>75761977
The stupid brother
>>75774291
>Trump is more right-wing than Peter Hitchens
lol
>>75763040
So Peter is full-on NRx? Like, "The French Revolution was a Mistake" NRx?
>>75774361
he wouldve made more money investing in municipal bonds instead of playing with daddy's money like an irresponsible child.
i have zero respect for trump. only underage cocksuckers like you seem to idolize him. i pity you.
>>75774654
not really
I have yet to see him criticize egalitarianism
>>75764629
This
>>75767783
Or who the fag would support.
>>75774765
He was already a billionaire by the time he inherited his share of his dad's 200 million, you ignorant twat.
>>75774291
Brilliant analysis, as always, /pol/.
So, because he said: >>75763040
Comments such as: "You may sometimes wonder why modern police officers are so word-perfect in the language of liberal political correctness. You may be puzzled as to how a generally conservative organisation, which once chased thieves and bad people in a fairly straightforward way, has suddenly become so keen on pursuing racism, homophobia and the other thought-crimes that obsess political radicals.
Here is part of the answer. They have been carefully and systematically trained in the Newspeak of the New Left, who know very well just how influential the trusted blue uniform of the British police constable is. I have been shown a document that has for some years been used to train officers in what is called 'Community Awareness'. " are now invalidated?
Shapiro was always pro-Israel, /pol/ only turned against him when he criticised Trump - what's the thing with Milo? He's a gay, race-mixer, was he ever /pol/ approved? (neither of these people hid these views btw)
>>75763421
Don't make fun of Merlini's juice boxes. He's just a widdle boy that needs his nummies.
>>75774765
>he wouldve made more money investing in municipal bonds
do you have a source for this claim?
also, he know has dozens of properties which will appreciate in future, and he has cash coming in from all of them
how many buildings have you built? how many number 1 rated tv series have you had? how many times have you broke the record for the number of viewers for your debates? how many billions have YOU made?
are you just jelly?
>>75774630
he's definitely less establishment than hitchens
probably sold more books too
>>75775204
Cuckservatives always point out at problems
They are cucks because they know that the solution would take radicalism, and they would rather not row the boat too much
I mean really, the "enlightened comment" you just posted is what every single informed political person already knows
>>75775204
>Brilliant analysis, as always, /pol/.
thanks kike
>>75774858
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTu3gVvm_K8
3:10
Owen Jones: [The Conservative Party] is not a left-wing party.
Peter Hitchens: It *is* a left-wing party - it's egalitarian.
The implication being that conservatism is not egalitarian.
>>75774361
one, I never said that
two, if you backed anyone but trump and responded to a trump comment in that same way you would be getting NOT AN ARGUMENT'd right now for not talking about policy
total hypocrisy
>>75775829
>one, I never said that
I never said you did, hitchens did though
not supporting trump at this point is supporting killary or bernout
> if you backed anyone but trump and responded to a trump comment in that same way you would be getting NOT AN ARGUMENT'd right now for not talking about policy
what the fuck are you even trying to say?
>>75775651
>I mean really, the "enlightened comment" you just posted is what every single informed political person already knows
You've been on /pol/ too long. The majority of Brits would not know this at all, and the fact this is in a semi-major newspaper is at least something.
>>75775802
Another brilliant comment.
>>75775822
You will never hear him say that people can freely create discriminating associations or that only males with property shall vote
He is not criticizing egalitarianism, he is turning it into a buzzword
>>75776220
>You will never hear him say that people can freely create discriminating associations or that only males with property shall vote
True.
>he is turning it into a buzzword
Hitchens does not have the audience to create a buzzword, don't be ridiculous.
>>75776161
I said
> informed political person
not every random briton
also, what is his solution exactly?
He knows very well that nignogs would riot if the police treats them as it should, and given that he has always hated the BNP and his policy of voluntary deportation, then he has zero solutions
>>75776417
> Hitchens does not have the audience to create a buzzword, don't be ridiculous.
isn't he kinda popular among tory circles?
I like Hitchens, but he is totally wrong on this one
>>75763040
>olymipically stupid
>olympically
>virtually thoughtless
>virtually
CMON M8 CURRENTNTN YEARRRRRRRR
>>75776447
* the BNP and its policy
>>75776447
>informed political person
So perhaps a class of students studying politics at university, or people who read the Telegraph - STILL they would not know this.
Your definition of someone who's politically informed is essentially just those who read Hitchens, and those who browse /pol/.
>also, what is his solution exactly?
I'm growing bored of this now. He has none. He believes the UK is dead, and he's documenting the decline.
>>75776539
No? He has major disagreements with the tory party - all I can think of is that he was invited for an interview with (Nottingham, I think?) University student's paper (which was Tory leaning).
People here are trying to paint him as some kind of establishment figure - anytime he's on some BBC programme he's always "balanced" out by at least 3 establishment figures to make it seem like he's a wild lunatic on the fringes of society. He will always end up also debating conservatives.
>>75763040
so all his critiques about trump stem from a baseless belief that trump isn't sincere about what he says he's going to do?
>>75776132
>not supporting trump at this point is supporting killary or bernout
why exactly
I don't support those two either, why doesn't that make it support for trump? oh right, special rules always apply when trump is involved
>what the fuck are you even trying to say?
read
the point is /pol/ puts trump on a pedestal and places different, much higher standards on everyone else
>>75776161
>Another brilliant comment.
it's nice to be acknowledged
>>75777332
they accuse trump of being stupid ... because they have nothing else to say
>>75777215
> He believes the UK is dead, and he's documenting the decline.
He may as well declare then that Radicalism is the only solution
> People here are trying to paint him as some kind of establishment figure
I would say that someone that is actually allowed to write for The Mail on Sunday is far from a fringe figure
I wish Johnatan Bowden would have been that lucky
>>75777635
>why exactly
because they are the only other ones that can realistically win the presidency
you really needed me to spell that out for you?
>/pol/ puts trump on a pedestal and places different, much higher standards on everyone else
I don't think they do, we like him for many reasons, but the main one, for me, is that there is a chance he is not a puppet, all the others definitely are, so that would be my pick
can you refute that?
>>75767977
>moderate
so basically fake christians get along with the bitchboy "atheist" and everything keeps turning in timmy's little highschool box of obnoxiously irrelevant anecdotes
the bridge and you, a prequel
>>75776539
No, he constantly attacks the Tories for being just as liberal as Labour.
>>75777780
>He may as well declare then that Radicalism is the only solution.
Yes, and suppose he does?
What happens?
Continues to use his column to espouse his new radical views?
-He'd likely be fired, and denounced by the MSM and most Britons.
He forms a racially-conscious party, and stands for election?
-Which would be destroyed by the party machine, renounced by the British people and torn to bits by the MSM.
Buys a shotgun and shoots up Tower Hamlets? Jail and labelling of even old-fashioned Tories as extremists.
>I would say that someone that is actually allowed to write for The Mail on Sunday is far from a fringe figure
He is neither establishment nor fringe. His views are certainly looked upon with disdain by the majority of the left-wing media.
>>75778019
>because they are the only other ones that can realistically win the presidency
I don't care
no support for anyone means no support for anyone, including god emperor trump
>I don't think they do, we like him for many reasons, but the main one, for me, is that there is a chance he is not a puppet, all the others definitely are, so that would be my pick
I can't refute the puppet part because completely based on opinion and not an argument
but what I can say is everyone on this thread is attacking peter for not discussing policy when trump attacks people on the most off-topic shit that has nothing to do with policy all the time and no one here complains about it
those are different standards
>>75778670
> Continues to use his column to espouse his new radical views?
He does not even need to say anything radical
He just has to imply that heavily while dropping the defeatist attittude
Being less harsh on the UKIP would be a start
>>75778761
>I don't care
you sure seem to be posting a lot for someone who doesn't care
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avcS0aYJ2a8
>I can't refute the puppet part because completely based on opinion and not an argument
that's a sly way of saying I'm right
also, he's fucking hilarious, btfos PC left and right, ang the liebereal tears are soo funny
>but what I can say is everyone on this thread is attacking peter for not discussing policy when trump attacks people on the most off-topic shit that has nothing to do with policy all the time and no one here complains about it
he called a very intelligent man stupid, because he doesn't like him
trump is a counterpuncher, he hits back
>>75779068
>Being less harsh on the UKIP would be a start
He told his readers to vote for them if they felt they had to vote at all.
But UKIP is a libertarian, pro-gay marriage, pro-free market, pro-drugs legalisation party.
>>75779730
They are non-issue compared to national survival tho
Social conservatism is for old people
>>75779393
>you sure seem to be posting a lot for someone who doesn't care
yeah, I am posting a lot (4 posts, woah!) but I'm mostly posting about something completely unrelated to the thing I said I don't care about
I'm not even the one that brought it up, you did
that was a lame rehearsed line that can be used on anyone who says they don't care about something
come on, you can do better
>that's a sly way of saying I'm right
that's a sly way of trying to pass your worthless opinion off as fact
>also, he's fucking hilarious, btfos PC left and right, ang the liebereal tears are soo funny
good for him
>he called a very intelligent man stupid, because he doesn't like him
>trump is a counterpuncher, he hits back
more meaningless buzzphrases
whether or not he's a 'counterpuncher' has nothing to do with anything, what matters is this thread is yet another example of how trump gets a free pass by you people on everything you complain about because he's a giant meme and you want to escape reality
>>75781473
>by you people
what exactly have I given him a free pass on, shill?
>>75774183
Because Trump doesn't pretend to be a "Republican." He's a centrist weirdo but he's completely up-front about it. I'm not as concerned with the political standing of our figurehead as I am with the specifics of his policies and the standing of the Overton window.
his chin is literally always facing upwards so he can forever look down his nose at everyone he speaks to
it's another level of snob
>>75764784
You could always not be an autist and read into what he's saying a bit more. He's actually condoning direct action against the state. Also, if voter turnout is so pathetically low there is no way that any government voted in could claim legitimacy.
>>75761816
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>>75781725
how about this:
>they accuse trump of being stupid ... because they have nothing else to say
so when someone attacks trump it's because "they have nothing else to say"
but what happens when trump is the one making an attack
what happens when he calls marco rubio 'little marco'
oh, now it's different
now it's suddenly LE EPIC COUNTERPUNCH MAYMAY
someone attacks trump
>shill! nothing else to say!
trump attacks someone
>haha epic !! can't stump!!11
that's called a free pass
>>75761816
>jew hates Trump
What else is new? Hitchens is basically a grumpy nihilist who exists to complain about the modern world but do nothing about it.
>>75783317
Sauce?
>>75783460
you are mistaking a shill attacking with trump defending
no matter how many times you argue this point, the rest of us see right through you
it's perfectly legitimate to counterattack someone, it's not legitimate to initiate an attack
>>75785105
let's pretend donald trump is the infallible god king you think he is and say he has never initiated an attack on anyone this entire time (he has) and no one making an attack on him has ever been doing it as a response (they have)
this changes nothing
you can't have it both ways, I'm so sorry
you either condemn ad hominem attacks or you don't
you can keep making excuses for him all you want (see: free pass) but it won't make you less of a hypocrite
keep memeing though buddy
>>75761816
One thing I love about Trump is how he exposes the frauds that present themselves as 'public intellectuals'. They put too much stock in appearance and pedigree over actual accomplishment and vision.
>>75763040
Honestly, I like Peter, but his expectations of what a Prime Minister/President seem to be unrealistically high. He wouldn't be happy unless some paragon conservative superhero came existed and became amazingly popular.
>>75774183
I personally never insulted ted Cruz on superficial things like his appearance
I made posts critical of his inability to work with others and his impractical moral/political views
>>75761816
>muh weed
who cares
>>75786481
we found the one
>>75786108
nice list of examples ya got there homo
>>75765393
> Punish him for breaking the conditioning and knowing more than any what to look out for.
> This will help
He's a defector, comrade, did you want him back or something?
>>75786481
I insulted him for being a fucking Canadian and therefore ineligible, being MARRIED to goldman sucks, his small loans of a million dollars that he "forgot" to put down, and generally being a sleazebag
>>75761816
Sounds like Peter needs a visitation from a dangerous faggot.
>>75761816
>literal who
>>75786108
you KNEW I was going to ask for examples, and that not listing any was you admitting you didn't have any, yet you still bothered to post
where do they find you morans?
>>75786759
>>75788061
I actually didn't know you were going to ask for examples because it was a hypothetical and the least relevant part of the post
pedantically clinging onto the most minute thing to give you a better chance and red herrings aren't above you, I should've known better
and this is exactly what I'm talking about
because I had something bad to say about trump, I'm now expected to treat this like some kind of formal ivy league debate
what the fuck do you want me to do? write a peer reviewed article? make a powerpoint full of citations? it doesn't fucking matter
and meanwhile you can just yell shill and post a stupid gif and that makes you the winner somehow
total dumbass
>>75788651
so you made a claim, and can't back it up
fucking grade F moran
you want to know why Trump is so popular? because, apart from actually being competent in business, he doesn't let people bully him, and we're all fucking sick and tired of the liebereal and cuckservative kike media and establishment bullying us
do you even support closing the border?
deporting ILLEGALS?
or are you just another anti-White genocidal monster who wishes to see White children disappear?
>>75789069
there you go again
I'm not about to go on a scavenger hunt through every single debate to see the exact moment in time that he attacked someone
tell me what heidi cruz did to provoke the attack on her and I'll drop it
that wasn't much of a counterpunch was it
I shouldn't dignify the white genocide shit with a response because you pulled it straight out of your ass but yes, I do want the border closed and yes I do want illegals deported
except unlike trump I don't want them touching back
>>75789899
>I shouldn't dignify the white genocide shit with a response
can you name any White countries that are not being forced to take millions or tens of millions of 3rd world niggers, spics or mudslimes?
any White country that has a Whites only immigration policy?
did the immigration policies just change themselves?
>>75763040
So basically, he wants more of the same KEKSERVATIVE shit where you just act all fucking superior and calm and collected and get absolutely nothing done, and concede more points in government and policy until you end up with the current governments in Europe which are all far left and conservationism can't get anything done?
Good to know, this fag is living in the past, conservatism died because it was too easily pushed over by the left, ground was taken and never given back.
Stop living in the past Peter
>>75761816
Ineffectual conservative British "television commentator", who will watch as his nation becomes a living re-creation of the India-Pakistan border, looks down on someone with far more accomplishments, who might become US president, and have a say in all of Europe's political future by withdrawing from NATO. News at 11.
Isn't it customary for brit cunts to be snobby about American politics no matter who it is?
Unless it's a leftist nigger, due to their BBC brainwashing.
I remember britcunts swooning over this ineffectual half-coon, now they just pretend he doesn't exist rather than admit they were wrong.
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>Olympically stupid
