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Thoughts on this /pol/?
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>>75736469
Yeah, man, down with the borders! We should have a one world government, man.
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b8 m8
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>>75736469

Nationalism only teaches you to love your own country, not to hate others.
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>>75736469
i see it more like
>taking pride in what YOUR country done
this shit is just b8
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>>75736469
It's vile Socialism that gives government's power to actually do bad things, aside from just saying things.
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Don't trigger me americunt
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>liberalism
>teaches you to feel guilty for shit you haven't done and pay for shit you have nothing to do with
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>>75736469
LEFTISM
Teaches you to take shit you haven't earned and hate the people who paid for it
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>>75736469
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>>75736469
It teaches you to take pride in shit that your people have done for you.
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Socialism
teaches you to take pride taking money that others have worked for
and you have not earned yourself
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>>75737111
also OP IS A FAGGOT
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>>75736986
Says the straya poster.
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>>75736469
How is nationalism teaching to hate?
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>>75736469

I met enough people from other countries that live in germany to make me hate them.

And living in a country that actively discourages people from taking pride in our common heritage and history, I believe taking pride in shit I haven't done is far more better for a society than feeling guilty for shit I haven't done like non-proud societies like mine naturally dwell into.

Pic is therefore debunked
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>>75736469
>Liberalism
>Teaches you that nationalism sucks and you should feel bad and pay reparations for something that your ancestors made.
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>teaches you to hate people you have never met
But I only hate the ones coming over here. I hate chinese, indians arabs niggers and wogs. I dont hate russians, mongols, Nepalese, Kazakhs ect
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>>75736469

Of course OP you're right, however these people are not mentally ready for higher or reasonable society to see each other as one. Humans still have a primitive mindset and they don't think with reasons but with feelings, they still believe they are special. The real truth is humanity will go extinct one day like every other life form before us. Human's are just animals with big ego.
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>>75736544
I think it's going to come to this, but I hope with whites only.
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>>75737724
the nazis were the most nationalistic people in history
99% of them never met a russian or live next to a jew.
same goes for trump supporters. never met a mexican or a muslim, being told who to hate.
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Hmmm quite makes one pounder chap
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>>75738356
How does this apply to me?
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>>75738247
biggest mistake of racist whites is they think every whites are civilized super beings free from evil.

tell me something, were the kids that bullied you when you're in school muslims?
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>>75736469

Super liberal cuck friend posted this the other day.

I responded with

>It teaches you to take pride in what others have done for you

And the response I got was

>Interesting. Of the two comments above, one is veteran and one isn't

Some veteran guy was like "THIS IS SO TRU!"

I asked my friend how that was relevant. No response. That means he doesn't want to fight. He's actually really not a friend but someone my other friends are friends with and I just keep pretending anyways.

>>75736598

We have definitions like that too. They're attacking nationalism because guilt-by-association with Nazis. Without thinking about what the word or idea COULD mean. It could just mean a basic love and pride in your country. Of course snide liberal would say "why love my country when it's done bad things and its so horrible" and my response is that you love your kids when you put them in time out don't you? It's that kind of love. It's just the love you have for something that is a part of you.
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>>75738356
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>>75738471
youre being told to hate people who you never met.

you are taught people like this are civilized and they're your best friends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t81IEq4FjlI
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>>75736469
hmmm...
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>>75738630
Who is teaching me this? Every media and education institute teaches the exact opposite.
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>>75736469
I agree. It's cringey when stormweenies start talking about their glorious musical geniuses when they can't even play Mary has a little lamb on the link.
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>>75738630

People who ar racist are just retarded or some kids from other race attacked them and that's why they think every one is the same.. It's called (retarded logic).
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>>75736469

How does nationalism promote hate? How is destroying your culture a good thing?
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>>75738699
*on the piano
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>>75736469
Don't take pride in your country's achievements!
Oy vey, have you apologised for slavery today?

REDDIT BTFO
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>>75738736
World War 2. Japan aggressively expanded in the name of the gorrious emeperah.
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>>75736469
is /pol/ the most computer illiterate board

why the fuck are so many images of such terrible quality
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>>75738356
>the nazis were the most nationalistic people in history

No the jews are
That's why they are still here after thousands of years
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>>75738736
You create groups which means basically dividing each other and this will generate hate. basic common sense.
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>>75738793
/pol/ gets the most redditors and shills
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>>75736469
If national pride keeps the dindus out I don't see a reason to get rid of it.
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>>75738356

I've meet Mexicans, my brother married one. It's what made me start hating them. I've met Muslims, they wouldn't respect that I was an atheist and kept trying to convert me.

Personal experiences are what make people hate others. I don't buy this liberal bullshit idea that hate just comes out of nowhere.

>>75738521

No white people just realize it's about RATES and PERCENTAGES. No one says whites are infallible. How the fuck do we get white guilt if white people thought they way? Whites blame themselves first and Asians maybe do but the other races don't. It's always someone elses fault with the other races.
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>>75736469
b8, but it still has a valid point

I agree you shouldn't take credit for the achievements of your ancestors, and you shouldn't hate people you don't have sufficient reason to hate. However, your government should serve its own people before others, anything else is societal suicide.
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>>75738871
If there is only one group in a nation, whats the problem?
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>>75736469
>it's another new zealand isn't on the map episode
Not like we've ever done anything apart from being Australia's better looking sibling anyway

We'll never do anything of note either, the lazy attitude and lack of ambition of people in this country is disgusting.
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>>75738699

But it doesn't bother you when other races do it I bet.
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oh look it's this thread again
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>>75736544
Bible says when the one world government is going to represented by a "6" which is the mark of the beast and a symbol of incompletion to the Lord. Bible says we will all fold and join the one world government, and a religion will replace all religions (Islam, probably). The rapture will occur shortly after this.
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>>75738774

I hope you're a troll. I can't take people seriously with these questions or just a underage build with anger.
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Daily reminder that there is currently paid shills working to undermine /pol/.
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Ingroup preference has nothing to do with pride. I'm not "proud" to be Bulgarian in a way that I would be proud of achieving something myself, but I want to live among my own people, because that is the culture in which I was born and raised. I don't want foreigners to come here in droves, into the territory that I've inherited from people who fought tooth and nail to preserve it.

Outgroup preference doesn't make for a stable society. It only leaves you open to opportunists who want to conquer you. A society that refuses to defend itself and its values is doomed to be erased from history.
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>>75738936
Our aboriginals invented two kinds of stick you fucking nazi. Fuck off.
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The idea that "nationalism" is dangerous and hate-fuelled is being pushed by oligarchs to lube people up for a global government.

Any country that resists the idea of having its sovereignty overruled for the sake of "peace" and "the environmnet" will be accused of indulging in "petty nationalism".
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>>75738936
I never met nationalists of any other race. I only know about stormweenies from pol. The closet thing is the some of the elderly generation talking about Singapore's economic miracle with a smug look and implying they did it by working hard being thrifty or something, which always annoys me.

>having to make up ad hominems as an argument.
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>>75739030
>puts a shill on suicide watch using its own logic
>troll
Wow absolutely ebin.
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>>75738894
You're basically retarded congratulation.

I know a mexican and i find all mexican bad... please kill yourself with that retarded statement or just don't breed.
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>>75738356
>Malaysia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumiputera_(Malaysia)
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>>75739146
Do you have to make up shit to feel smart? What oligarchs? Your democratically elected governments?

China has an oligarch. Saudi Arabia has an oligarch. Most of the world doesn't.
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>>75736469

"""you've never met"""

fucking retarded heh
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Post some of your favorite nationalist songs

https://youtu.be/EPFQzTFT824?t=42s
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Im loving these obvious proxies desu reddit friends
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>>75738871
This whole were one people maaann shit only works if everyone is on board with this idea. When its only white people on board the other groups will devour them.
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>>75739238
>whites hate X race because all they see is statistics about them! If they knew one they wouldn't hate them
>anon shares anecdotal evidence to fill hole in this logic
>hurr ur a retard :^)
So what's it gonna be anon, are stats racist and you must know a minority to have an opinion on them or are all is anecdotal evidence false until you deem it fits your arbitrary requirements?
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>>75739213
Take a trip outside of your country then m8. Nationalism exists plenty. Literally any major country's celebratory holiday is filled with nationalism.
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Please give me a good reason why nationalism is good for the future of mankind.

1. It allows the government to control the country on the premise of national pride.

Nationalism has been used for centuries as a propaganda tool to manipulate people into buying into the governments agenda. Examples:
-Nationalism was the root of the Nazi campaign in WWII. Hitler convinced an entire nation of people that they had drawn the short stick after WWI, and that they should be reprimanded by any means necessary. (2)
-The Iraq/Iran wars. President Bush used national pride as a tool for invading a poverty stricken otherwise helpless country. America claimed they did it to look for weapons of mass destruction, to keep the nation safe. Nationalism was used to justify the USA's lust for oil.(3)
-Russia. Putin is championing a combination of economic and political nationalism. He's nationalized his country's gas/oil industry and now uses it like a diplomatic bludgeon to bully neighbors into falling into line. He's ordered the murder of dissidents and neighboring leaders. He's bullied the media almost to the point of taking it over outright and muzzled many of the most widely used news sources. (4)

My point is that nationalism is used as a tool for controlling entire nations of people.

Instead of focusing on how to improve ones own country, we should be focused on how to improve humanity as a whole.
Imagine if countries where people. If we put all the people together in one room we have the world. Now what would work better, a group of people who where full of self pride, and distrust towards one and other, or a group of people who took pride in the group they where in?

ATTENTION!!
(Nationalist on suicide watch)
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>>75739721
It is good for my people because we will cease to exist without it. Everything else is meaningless.
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>>75739315

>Most of the world doesn't have oligarchs
>Rockefeller, Soros, Rothschild don't exist
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>>75739541

I lost 50 IQ reading this. Thanks.
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>Identity is bad goys
>Oy Vey yes of course someone from Iceland and an abbo are the same, were all humans
>What are you a racist?
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>>75739721
så hold dog kæft for fanden
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>>75739721
You're stupid.

The first example only has a link to nationalism in the sense that you used the word 'nation' in the same sentence. Germany did draw the short straw, but because of the harsh Treaty of Versailles. Google that.

Similar for 2 and 3. Do some research.

I can't tell if this is b8 or not but this is barely above the level of a 10 year old's logic. Unfortunately you don't get any participation prizes for spewing dumb opinions in the real world anon.
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>>75739877
Does that put you in the negatives?
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>>75739721
>humanity

Well spooked my friend
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>>75738985

>not getting the mark

whatever, fagit. enjoy not eating.
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>>75736812
>Not feeling guilty for what someone of a largely different ethnic heritage did 200 years ago.
I mean cmon, it's 2016.
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>>75736469

>#multiculturalism #islamophobia #refugeeswelcome
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>Don't take pride in the good shit they did but you haven't
>but feel bad for all the bad shit they did but you haven't!!11
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>>75739939
Not even a christcuck and I'll take my chances in the bush before bowing to a world government
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>>75739721
So much text and so little said. Your entire argument basically boils down
>nationalism is bad because it gives the government power
>globalism is good because it gives the government power
Also your entire grasp on Russian politics is completely fucked if you think Putin is power because of nationalism. He's in power because the other candidates are complete wild cards.

Also the computer(or phone) you are typing on along with the internet are products of nationalism but you seem to have omitted that information. Hmmm, you know, omitting information is the same as lying :^)
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>>75738975
Love of people you've never met has nothing to do with liberalism.
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>>75739890

resirkulerbar renne fitte-hore
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I too found Doug Stanhope funny when I was 14 OP.
>>75738818
This, Even if Israel is destroyed it still exists in concept.
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>>75739721
Nationalism is the only attitude that will preserve the people and cultures of different regions and countries. Forced multi-culturalism only promotes hate and produces violence on genocide on a massive scale.
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>>75739721

>muh humanity

Too bad that only Westerners are taught to have this sentiment. The rest of the world is allowed to be as nationalistic and xenophobic as they get. So it's not going to work. It's a trick to make white people stop acting on their self-interest.
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>>75736469
Nationalism thought me that foreigners who escape and loot their countries should not enter another country, since parasites are never a good thing. Either pay tax and fix country where you are or get shot. How would it be if i just walked into a store and not pay for tax, stolen some shit and then taken that stolen goods and put them on shelves of some other store, it's really same thing migrants are doing. Migration is only promoted by international billionaires, who live on the backs of people and their minions who think they are helping the world are only helping themselves and destroying future for everybody, but then it's always those migrant people who ruined everything and created wars and poverty, they are the ones talking about humanity. Humans will some day understand that for this Earth to survive you have to kill the parasite who changes host bodies.
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Couldn't we say the same for those that are proud of the achievement of humanity at large?
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Lol did our """danish""" friend disappear when the norge started using scandispeak
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>>75740003

k
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>>75736469

Nationalism isn't about hating other people, it's about loving yours. Your people are your greatest blessing, and we should all be glad that we live as one under a single nation. The happiest day of many men's life is when their children are born, but did they give birth to the child? No. But your children are your people, and how could you not love them?

All I and many other Nationalists purpose is that every ethnicity have a right to maintain a majority within its own homeland, based on their historical control of the area, and ethnic prevalence in the region.

Should we not consider what is best for everyone? Why not ensure the end of racism, by dividing all races? This may lead to the rise of Racialism, as some races do better than others, but we should not fight nature. We should embrace the fascism of nature, and use it to make our people stronger. We should respect our ancestors, and protect our descendants.

We can lower crime rates, ensure peace, and give everyone a chance. All people will have their race, and opportunity to make a successful society. All people with have their religion, and ability to proselytize. All people will have a chance to be a part of their own culture, and not be shamed. If this makes me racist, or evil, or a nazi; then so be it. I'd rather be an evil-racist nazi, then betray my own people, and the rights all of humanity has to maintain its own existence.
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>>75740143

Yes, that's what i'm saying.

I mean nationalism is just a division that takes a roll as a group similar to people who see each other different. "multi-culturalism" is the same as nationalism because it's divide people into groups which basically means both are not good for the future of a civilized world.
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>>75736469
Socialism teaches you to love people you've never met and take pride in shit you'll never do.
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>>75736469
>>Nationalism teaches you to take to take pride in shit you haven't done
>Don't be proud of your country, ethnicity, race, your ancestors achievements that bettered humanity overall!
>But you better apologize for slavery, whitey!

These people can't make up their minds.

>Hate people you've never met

Never met? Look where I live m8. I've met enough Arabs and Negroes to pretty much hate 99.9% of them. Save for the few educated ones who don't act like niggers and muslims.
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>>75740527
So what is your solution, mighty fence sitter?
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>>75738356
actually most of them lived next to jews
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>>75736469
>Using pride in the sense of achievement and not in the actual sense in which nationalism uses it: respect for your ancestors who gave their life and used their resources to build towards to future and to build for the next generations of which I am blessed to be a part of
I am the product of their sacrifices. Taking pride in their achievements is giving respect to their efforts, not taking their fame from them, because you know that their achievements were done in part so that you may live comfortably and so that you, as the embodiment of their testament, can build towards the next future. You fucking globalist faggots. A nationalist sees the worth of his culture for it made him who he is today, he therefore will not accept other cultures in his country, but he will realise that his culture works for his country, and is not necessarily the best culture for every country. It follows that there is no inherent hate for other cultures essential to Nationalism. Your first argument is a strawman, your second is simply retarded and had no basis.
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>>75740527
hold nu kæft for helvede
tag tilbage til plebbit eller hvor fanden det end er du kommer fra
eller du kunne dræbe dig selv og oge det danske IQ gennemsnit med en god del point
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>>75740848
>please just shut the hell
head back to plebbit or wherever the hell it is that you come from
or you could kill yourself and increase the Danish IQ average with a good deal of points

Honestly,seems like a pretty good translation from google
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>>75736469

>ITT people have no argument, but spout unrelated things
and yet think they have rebuttled this spesific arguments
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>>75736469
You take pride in things you never do, so you want to much with people you are proud of and do good things and contribute as well.You also teach your children the same.Its a self-sustaining mechanism and I think its quite ok.
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>>75736469
Go away Doug Stanhope.
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>>75740927
>pretty good translation from google
yeah it is
minor grammar errors but nothing significant
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>>75738778
that's Imperialism, not nationalism you should-be-colony-faggot. Nationalism does not inherently promote expansion drift.

>>75738871
group formation is inherent to humanity, and forming a global group will eventually means forced uniformity and the loss of every culture but a single one to which everyone must adhere, as people will not accept differences between people. It's in our genes to not accept different culture. On top of that is the retarded assumption that there must be some godlike culture which stands above all, which doesn't exist.

A simpler, easier, more logical situation is to allow for nations with their own culture out of which cultural homogeneity will follow which is good for society, and out of which cultural diversity will exist.
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>>75740848
pride should be reserved for something you achieve or attain on your own, not something that happens by accident of birth. Being Netherlands isn't a skill, it's a f*cking genetic accident. You wouldn"t say "I"m proud to be 5"5". I"m proud to have a predisposition for colon cancer." So why would you be proud to be Dutch, or proud to be Italian, or American or anything?"

It is my belief that nationalism is inherently dangerous. Nationalism is defined by "The belief that
nations will benefit from acting independently rather than collectively, emphasizing national rather than international goals.

In a time where humans had to group together to stay safe, loyalty to ones own society makes sense. However This is not the case anymore.
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>>75740927
As long as there are no tricky idioms, google works decently even if the sentences get a little awkward sometimes.
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>>75740803
see this
>>75741172
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>>75740927
I think scandi to english is pretty easy. It all seems to go to shit with german tho
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>>75740848

What's your point? or do you just talk with your feelings? btw don't have time for underage bullshit. P.S. have a nice day.
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>>75741172
So what? Should you not be proud of something your father has done? Should I mot be proud of my grandfather for fighting off the japanese in new Guinea?
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>>75741251
Probably because of the case system that the German language has
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>>75741172
>accident
>implying soul or some shit decided to go to the netherlands and not to uganda
You're the product of your parents who are the product of the nation, faggot.
>retarded examples
>implying anyone thinks being Dutch is an achievement
>confusing the usage of pride in achievements and pride for your ancestors
kek
>muh humanity
>6 billion people on the planet couldn't give a fuck about this dane
>somehow him giving a fuck about them will fix it all
delusional
>>75741248
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>>75739697
There's a difference between celebrating your country's birthday nationalism and staking your self esteem on being a citizen of a country nationalism.
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>>75736469
That's Ultra-Nationalism, and it's still better than multiculturalism shit
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>>75741344
It should primarily serve as an example and inspire you
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>>75741344

You should be proud of (him) and not by (you). understand? maybe it's hard for some people in this Japanese message board.
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>>75741378

this is probably the most common mistake in these types of threads

>been part of an echochamber for so long you atuomatically think x argument is related to x

im sorry to say that aslong as the hypocracy isnt stated or implied, this isnt a good argumnet
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>>75741395
No doubt. Im learning swedish right now and I have to say that its 100x easier for an english speaker compared to german
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>>75736469
It's retarded globalist garbage.

That's my thought on it.
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>>75739213

>I never met nationalists of any other race.

Okay well come to America and look at Mexicans and there you go.

>>75739238

I'm retarded because... I think personal experience with people is what makes people hate each other.

Lets just make it clear that's what you think is retarded here. So we're all clear, according to you hate just COMES FROM NOWHERE LIKE MAGIC right?

>>75739334

And here is an anon who gets the point I'm making. Call him a retard too. This isn't a hard concept to understand.
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>>75741172
>It is my belief that nationalism is inherently dangerous
What is wrong with following traditions? What is wrong with trying to preserve the Danish way of life? Why should we dilute our culture?
I've never understood you globalist to be honest, you always say that we will benefit from having huge waves of rapefugees, in the long run, but all it ever creates is more crime, lower birth rates for the national population and lower quality of life all around because of the massive cost of rapefugees assimilation(which they don't want to do)
so what is the benefit? Why should we stop being Danish?
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>>75741511
And why is being proud of your people a bad thing?
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>>75738356
I've met several Mexicans m8. I've met them in San Diego, El Paso, New York, and even my small rural Minnesota town.

I don't hate mexicans, I hate illegal immigrants
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>>75736469
White Nationalism is for racelets and basement dwelling pussies who ride on the coattails of 10% of white people who actually contribute significantly to the betterment of their society
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Why is there some shit written above our contry on the map?
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>>75741543
We actually had a case system too in Scandinavia but eventually we stopped using it.

You can still find a few traces of it in Danish.
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>>75736469
>Why would you be proud of your parents if you had nothing to do with them?
>why would you be proud of your school or uni or support a sports team when you have nothing to do with them?
>why would you take pride in being human and want to help other humans when you had nothing to do with it?

Retarded liberal logic, someone please tell me this isn't hard to figure out and that people who actually believe this line of reasoning aren't serious
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>>75741648
Compared to the 0% of mexicans who have contributed
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>be patriot
>"you had nothing to do with it, stop including yourself in the achievements of your forefathers"

>be race realist
>"how dare you trivialize oppression, stop excluding yourself from the sins of your forefathers"

I was forged from my genes and my experiences, I am a product of this society, therefore I am proud of it.
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>>75736469

>teaches you pride for the things your ancestors have avhieved,
>makes you hate outsiders that come to ruin it.

fixed it for you
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>>75741648
>Only 10% of white people work
What the fuck do beaners think is contributing is contributing to society? If anything beaners are a drain. Plus it's always beaners leaving their trash around my fishing spot.
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>>75742081
>beaners
I really like that word desu senpai
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>>75740054

It has to do with Social Liberalism, leaf person
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>>75741861
It's retarded logic but they follow it and then:
>TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN OUR LGBTBBQ FOREBEARS
>PROTEST IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE MALIGNED PEOPLE OF XYZ
>REFUSE TO PARTICIPATE IN NORMAL LIFE DUE TO ITS NON-CONSTANT RECOGNITION OF SOMETHING BAD HAPPENING AT AN ARBITRARY POINT IN HISTORY

psychology my friend, where the need is removed the need will be filled.
Is the hyper masculinity and aggression from blacks in USA from lack of father figures?
Were the people of Germany enthralled with old uncle Adolf because they had been shamefully defeated and possibly robbed of fathers during a war within their lifetimes?
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>>75736469
There's such a thing as being a nationalist and also acknowledging that the existence of other nations are entirely necessary to the sovereignty of the world's peoples
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>>75741648
Or, you know, it's about wanting to protect the safe, prosperous society your people have built. Nationalism is only retarded if the country you're from is shit, like Mexico.
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>>75742081
>>Only 10% of white people work
Care to point out the part in my post in which I said this?

>What the fuck do beaners think is contributing is contributing to society?
You clearly have a severe lack of reading comprehension if you think I said only 10% of white people "work".
>If anything beaners are a drain.
By "beaners" you mean all Mexicans, I assume?
> Plus it's always beaners leaving their trash around my fishing spot.
oh the humanity!
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>>75736812
I never thought i'd live to see a based Romanian post.
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>>75736544

It's okay to consider yourself your own country.

It's foolish to think you're by yourself in the world.
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>>75741896
Even if your statement were true it doesn't really make a difference. The 90% of coattail riding whites isn't doing much better than Mexicans.
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>>75742407
What is contributing? Surely a Mexican intellectual such as yourself will be able to tell us.
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>>75736812

Our money and our economy has to do with literally everything in our lives.

No one is telling you to feel guilty, but don't feel threatened when someone disagrees with you.
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>>75742250
It's great, you can say it 1,000 times over and it'll never lose its shine.
The best part is that it's still an effective trigger for mexicans even after so much use.
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An average college student today can learn everything that Newton, Euler, Bernoulli, Lagrange, Gauss and a hundred other intellectuals ever knew. No person can hope to do original things without having gone to the trouble of learning what has been done before them. They must know the previous state of the question before they can make contributions of their own. They must stand on the shoulders of giants.

The present generation has acquired a great intellectual and cultural heritage. It is a sin for any individual to neglect to acquire at least some small part of it for themselves.
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>>75736469
How about simple gratitude to a system that basically fed and taught you in safety and freedom, and was earned throught the sacrifice of your ancestors ?
But what am I saying, I'm half-white so I should half-hate myself every living moment of my life.
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>>75742528
The top 10% are only able to do great things due to the work of the 90% white people have all of these great people because we have built a society that enables great people to do great things.
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Also my nationality is a part of me
I like myself very much, thus i like my nationality and everyone else who belongs to it like you love your relatives because they are part of your family
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>>75736469
What's wrong with something that promotes unity?
Isn't that the liberal endgame?
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>>75736469
Let's bring all the world together so we can stare at our phones in the same room and then try to find something else to Bitch about.
>t.liberal
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>>75736931
Thisssss
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>>75738356
>99% of them never met a russian or live next to a jew.

Yeah, the germans never fought Russians in WW1, they never had to stop a Jew-led socialist revolution in 1918-19, the never lived with half a million jews in germany...

You don't need to know an individual to correctly judge the group the individual belongs to.
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>>75741594

I'm talking about the future of mankind and not about a tiny country in EU.

Today there are many different viewpoints with religion and other factors, illogical accomplish nothing but brings us ahead from each together, and that's why multi culturism and nationalism in the distant future make not work.. There are 7.3 billion people with many differences beyond doubt we can't work together because we are designed with too many diversity and complexity of life.

The questions it's all about the mindset of people.

I agree with you. Present-day people like you just want to feel comfy and don't care about the rest of the world and only want their country to succeed and feel right.

The problem we all live on this tiny planet and should work as one if we want to survive as a species.
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>shit you haven't done
but I'm part of the nation, when Sweden does something good it's a collective effort. And if OP's pic is refering to things that have happened during history, those were my ancestors. I share their genes so if they did something great that means I have the potential to do great things too.
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>>75738184
That's cute. It isn't until people are able to accept each other as different people from different countries and cultures will there be a unified species.

Not by pretending we are all exactly the same.
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>>75743245
Expanding on this, looking in admiration at your ancestor's past motivates you to do great things in your future.
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>>75738930
Hey man I have ambition. Tomorrow, I'm going to get a pie and a V.
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>>75743227
Why would I want my people to be absorbed into the great brown hoard though? I dont identify as a member of man kind, but an anglo saxon. If anglos or even north euros in general are gone, why would I give a fuck about the fate of the rest of the mongrels
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>>75743227
I get the whole, if we work together we could get space flight and be one Giant federation like in Star Trek feelings you get when thinking about mankind as a whole but it won't ever happen. We will burn before that happens. Everyone is out for themselves. Even leftists.
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>>75743588
The poets will tell of your glory for years to come
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>>75736469
Nationalism: Encourages you and those around you to be proud of the country and help make it the greatest place on earth

also: this image implies that competition is a bad thing
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>>75743589
>hoard

If you want to be anglo, learn how to speak the fucking language. It's 'horde', you dumb fuck.
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>>75745234
Sorry dad, its 9:30 on a wednesday night and im drunk again
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>>75742528
It makes a huge difference. White offspring can advance humanity. Beaners can rape women and mow lawns.
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>>75736469
I agree nationalism is shit and was fabricated by the rulers of nation states to keep their population in check.

The true state of being is city states
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>>75738985
So stupid
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Ethno nationalism is the only way for europeans in the future
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>>75736469
Progressivism teaches you to feel guilty about shit you haven't done and hate yourself
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>>75743227
The problem is demographics. Primitive dark skins will reproduce relentlessly regardless of their surroundings. Whites are actually calculated. The options are letting the earth overpopulate to oblivion until an inevitable massive die off occurs or put our foot down and try to advance in spite of this barbarian hoard.
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>>75740208
Westerners aren't taught this, it's an innate trait. Western propaganda involves convincing whites to fight and kill. Darkskins do this already no propaganda needed.
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>>75736469
It's an ideological standpoint, like any other. When taken to it's extreme, it can result in catastrphies, but remove it almost completely, and it results in what the west is experiencing today. And that is why nationalism is sorely needed atm. It's also the only servicable ideology to push back against the rampant multicultularlism that is eating away at the very foundation of western civilization.
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>implying I can meet everyone
>implying I even want to

Countries have general consensus so yeah you can like or hate 'countries' they're just massive collectives of people who agree on a lot, not all, issues.
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>not taking pride in the legacy of thy conquests

bitch
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>>75736469
Nationalism teaches you to RESPECT values and achievements that you have INHERITED from your ANCESTORS and build better society. You only hate others when you are chauvinist but that's not nationalism.
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>>75738356
look m8, both trump and hitler is supporting people to hate on other etnicities. but the swedish nationalist party (sd) for example is not supporting or encouriging for racism or diversity, only love for ones country, thats the true meaning of nationalism
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>>75738871
People creatw groups since forever. If nationalims dird, the classes would clash, if classes died, we would invent something else. Hate was and will always be part of humanity, until we have a sentient group of aliens we can hate. People crave generalisation.
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>>75738536
I'm a veteran that dude was probably a fucking POG. I've noticed its normally the POGs that are liberal especially so if they were air force or blue side Navy.
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