How does this get fixed with no government intervention?
It doesn't.
>>75533556
How does it get fixed with government intervention?
it doesn't.
>>75533556
dude takes a shovel and pours X into it once every few months, or until someone gets stuck/complains
ONE
The kindness out of the hearts of the dying middle class of course.
>>75533556
LIBRARIAN PARADISE
>>75533556
it doesn't get fixed even with government intervention. fucking had one of these on my street for 3 years before anything was done about it. It was in a highly populated area next to the city as well.
>>75533556
We just need to audit the shit out of the government. Trump has proven he is not in bed with the Republicans. Hopefully once he gets in he will sweep these government agencies and cut out the ridiculous spending habits of these fucktards. Government is fine as long as they are not for profit. Being a "public servant" is not supposed to make you rich. It's supposed to be a comfortable living while using our hard earned taxes to efficiently do shit like this. Anyone who wants to put banks in post offices is fucking out of their mind. The government cannot handle our tax money worth a shit. You want to just go ahead and give them your entire paycheck? Remember, these fucker said they will not bailout the banks... if they fuck up with your money, you are fucked.
>>75533556
Concrete mix.>>75533601
Shhh you're retarded.
In decent cities and normal towns people fill them up and fix it themselves as much as they need too. It's only when there isn't any work or production in an area it ceases to have the problem fixed. Small towns fix them all the fucking time through the towns people, not the fucking government. Are you fucking serious? You must of lived in a shithole in your life and have never experienced decency. Jesus. Do you really think that can't be fixed without the government? You're retarded. The government is more likely to create a road through your fucking property than fix something that frivolous. You're confirmed for relying on the government. Shitskin.
>>75533727
>audit the government
>find out the federal reserve has ~15 trillion dollars rammed under their mattresses
>>75533556
I'm a PA resident, so I can safely say the Government never fixes potholes
>>75533556
get fucked cunt there's been a pothole on my street for like 6 years, council refuses to fucking fill it in, people have sent letters, called them, fucking nothing gets done by the government.
If I'd paid a contractor to fill it in, or filled it in myself I'd have been fined or prosecuted.
>>75533811
What if you spray a swastika on them?
>>75533556
Governments don't fix roads. People do.
>>75533884
You get arrested and then the state department debates for six months on if or if not the hole should be fixed; the news runs a story about how potholes promote nazi views, and the schools teach kids not to walk near potholes because they could become nazis.
>>75533556
You do realize that Libertarian and Anarchist are two different things right?
>>75533640
who pays the dude
>trump elected
>appoints Ron Paul as secretary of treasury
wish a nigga would
does everybody have that one huge pothole that has been there so long you have to get new transmission every time you hit it. I've seen some towns that are more pothole than normal road.
>>75533556
Is the road owned by the government?
The government , which employs private contractors.
Is the road owned by a private individual or firm?
The private sector.
Next
It doesnt get fixed WITH government intervention
isn't that a government road? how come there is a pothole? shouldn't the government have fixed it already?
>>75534050
>no response
that anon must know what he's talking about
>>75534050
plant rows of olive trees the roads
whoever maintains the roads can keep the olives
>>75533556
we wuz free nd shiet
>>75533636
>why cant the tax payer deal directly with the company
uh yeah how would they do that you mean by a collection of people directly appointed....but trust worthy...so perhaps voted by the people to handle their money in a giant collective manner to get collective goals done....what can we call this?
>>75534270
I might have to buy some gravel and fill it in, dare me? lol
>>75534552
who maintains the olive trees
Local government
Charity
Toll gates
Dirt
>>75534594
Nah, something like that would ONLY make things more complicated and difficult. The only true decision to be to have every single person involved with no hierarchy to manage the complex nature of shit that has to get done.
>>75534661
same guy who maintains the roads
better question is who would plant the olive trees
>>75533636
>>75534050
whoever benefits from having it filled
>>75533556
Here in brazil the government obviously doesn't give a fuck and when they do try to fix it, the workers slack off so people just fill the hole with gravel
>>75533556
It is a fucking HOLE, fill it with gravel.
Private markets built fucking airplanes, rockets and computers. And you think they cant manage to fill a hole with dirt?
The romans 3000 years ago could build roads, are u keking me or what
>>75534719
Indeed. Every single individual needs to go to a giant plaza and the company itself that will fix the road will say how much it will cost and go around to everyone with a collection box saying deposit this amount of money and then everyone time one faggot doesnt everyone in the room needs to look at him and remember who the fuck this faggot is and hire their private security firms to brutally kill him for being a hurdle to the libertarian way
>>75534766
>the honor system
everyone driving on that road is going to voluntarily pay what they owe for the cost to repair the road.
>only $3 ends up in the collection box
>>75534831
Wow man you fixed all of the worlds pot hole problems with your single comment I mean jesus christ why are there so many pot holes right now. What the fuck you just blew my mind man lol wow crazy
>>75534552
See this one gets it. (not an active libertarian btw)
> Shame about the potential pollution but I'm sure you could divide it between city and incentivise in different ways.
>>75533556
I just saw a news story few months ago that a man got fined for fixing potholes himself
In my country it doesn't get fixed and we have a government. Checkmate, authoritarians.
Just buy a few 20kg bags of cold mix asphalt, buy a hand ram and a high vis vest and fix it yourself. Then realise that asphalting is a great, easy way to earn cash.
>>75535008
It''s because america steals all the money because they hate slavs.
t.volen
>>75535008
Kind of like every road in my country unless your in a main city or a major motorway.
>>75535008
So you're saying that if your government doesn't fix your potholes, you might as well not have a government?. That's how potholes get fixed?
>>75533636
What happens when some people don't agree to pay for roads?
What happens when people disagree on who they should pay to fix the roads?
Oh and privatization of roads would lead to huge mess, just look at UK's rail privatization which is a huge, expensive mess compared to countries with publicly owned railways.
>>75535086
More or less.
>>75533556
>he STILL doesn't know the difference between libertarian and anarcho-capitalist
holy wow, why are so many of you so ill informed? ignorance is optional in this age of information.
>>75533556
Indians would fill it in with poo.
>>75535008
>Huh... really makes you think
>>75535116
>potholes aren't being fixed by the element in charge of fixing them
>logically removing that element will ensure potholes get fixed
You're retarded. That's why you're potholes aren't fixed. Your government probably reflects your brain intelligence.
>>75533702
>it doesn't get fixed even with government intervention.
Ft. Collins, CO resident here, and I 2nd this.
Our main road through town, College, which is I-25 has been falling apart for years, there are spots where you have to drive out of lane because there's a big gutter in the lane that lasts for several football fields, there are holes everywhere, several spots where traffic has to come to almost a complete stop, including in the middle of intersections, and ease over potholes in order to not get a flat.
And it's all because so many Californians moved here and elected liberals, and the cost of living shot through the roof andthe Ft. Collins Chamber of Commerce literally ANNEXED county land, including my neighborhood, so we would have to pay taxes, including a rainwater tax . . .
Here, don't take my word for all this:
http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/12/16/the-most-corrupt-county-in-america/
That's what's going on in my town. Literal goddamn UN takeover.
>>75535168
>the government is my nanny
You are retarded.
>>75535234
I don't even...
>>75533556
the private party fixes it in order to attract customers :)
>>75533556
Quality thread OP so much libertarian triggering
>>75535200
How the hell does a rainwater tax work?
>>75535258
lift bro?
>>75535258
Hey, you are the one who unironically believes governments are benevolent caretakers.
>>75535337
What do you it's there for?. Why else would they be empowered to oversee everything and the most important things going on nationally and internationally?.
You seriously would prefer to have no government at all?.
Who would run your borders? how would you decide who enters the border? and exits? how would you ensure this remains consistent across the entire country? how would you defend yourself if a neighboring country invaded? (inb4 the town grabs it's muskets and cup-string walkie talkies and drives them off with no coordination between forces and no supply/logistics plan). Do you think the problem would solve itself by nobody invading?
>>75535297
How does it work?
How does it work?!
They just take your money and call it whatever they want and if you don't like it, tough, no one's coming to save you! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! FUCK YOU, CITIZEN! DIE DIE DIE!!! AH HA HA HA!!!
Next they'll be taxing us for air and sunshine and the taste of strawberries.
http://www.stoptheraintax.org/rain-tax-facts.html
People think I'm joking? Literally "nah."
Here, anyone who wants to know how taxes work in America, watch this movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6ayb02bwp0
TL;DW You have no rights, the law is whatever the government says it is, they'll do whatever they want to whenever they want, to whenever they want, however they want, in any manner they want, for absolutely any reason or no reason at all and if you try to do anything about it, they'll kill your whole family or worse.
But it's all a conspiracy and you're silly if you believe in those.
A) Someone writes an email using a privately-owned computer and sends it through a privately-owned ISP to a privately-owned newspaper, which publishes a for-profit story on the appalling state of Roads Inc.'s roads, prompting consumer outcry until it gets fixed.
B) A group of private citizens manage the state of the road they live on, and each put in some money to get it fixed.
C) It doesn't get fixed, because the road is in a stupid place and nobody has any interest in maintaining it. The land the road is on is sold to a farmer, who uses it to grow wheat, and the economy becomes slightly more efficient.
>>75534050
The owner of the road pays him with money they receive selling access rights to businesses that are near the road.
Unless this is a residential street, in which case those who live in that neighborhood will probably do it via HOA type organizations like they already do.
I've fixed my own street on multiple occasions, a damaged bag of cement is $.50.
>>75535521
You are under the false assumption a socialist government is capable of doing any of those things without stalinism being involved.
It's forgiven. being naive is natural product of being born and cuddlend in nicely set suburb family.
>>75534878
No not the honor system. What are you even.
Whoever benefits from a smooth road will pay. If I own a business and people use a road to get to my business I will pay to have that road in good condition.
the bongs already have this covered
http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/this-man-is-painting-penises-on-potholes-so-the-council-has-to-take-action--ekSuZ63mgW
>>75533556
here it doesn't get fixed by gov. It will be there for 25 years with possibly a neighbor filling it with sand or gravel....
Fucking shittiest roads in shitroop, yet we fund marvelous highways in romania and poland without even being part of that fucking cuckfest....
>shoot me
>>75534845
>>75534719
>>75534594
Are we playing Jeopardy here? Because……
>what is crowdfunding?
>>75535521
The last time a statist society invaded a tribal or social-control society, Rome ended up sacked.
When you have an entire society of free people (as America was intended to be), who are armed and independent and don't like being pushed around they tend to be master insurgents.
>>75535168
>pay the govt to take care of the roads
>they don't
>keep paying them anyway
wew lad
>>75533556
The same way a pothole in a parking lot gets fixed. The owner ofcthe road fixes it.
Here's a much better documentary that explains how the Current Economic system works and how corrupt our politicians are in this day and age.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fbvquHSPJU
>>75535793
Is this a serious answer? How fucking naive are you liberturdians?
>>75535538
forgot reply
>>75535871
>>75535543
t. city slicker
There's a tiny chance that (A) and (B) might work in densely populated areas where many industries rely on the roads. But they definitely wouldn't work on the millions of roads outside of the city. As for (C), unless you're in favour of culling farmers by making them drive fully loaded road trains down ungraded roads there's no way that's realistic. Farmers don't have the time money to fix them themselves either
>>75535735
yeah, I'm sure Americans can handle their own if they got invaded. For whatever crazy reason in my brain I firmly believe it's a better idea to DETER invasions whenever possible instead of choosing to fight them off while asking them to happen. Armed societies don't deter invasions. Armed forces do. Civilian farmers with shotguns and machine guns aren't trained soldiers with tanks and shit that are always on the ready with proficiency for war.
>>75535746
>government doesn't fix potholes
>stop paying them
>now don't have army, police, border patrol, fbi, cia, and public services.
>problem solved and worse off. Things are actually 10 times better
>>75533556
Pleb. Jetpacks will replace roads
>t. Actual answer from the libertarian debate
>>75535718
>that mountainous terrain feel
Swiss have shit roads too
>>75535871
None of this information is secret or hidden in any way, except for being "hidden in plain sight."
>I keep complaining but nothing changes
stay cuck
>>75533556
>>75535963
so why can't we privatize all the roads?
>>75536185
so you fix pot holes by laying an entire new layer of bricks on top of the old road?
>>75536185
who pays for the tiger-stone?
>>75535619
So why do potholes still exist if businesses voluntarily pay to fix them "because people use them to drive to my business"?
so only canada has good roads apparently the hell is wrong with the rest of you you're supposed to be first world nations
>>75536216
>every single road is a toll road
Any private businesses will not charge us 25x more than the same job the government would do.
>how is this different than the government fucking the public out of their hard earned money?.
>hurr muh roads muh statism
Why do you keep replying to those threads?
Sage and hide
>>75535105
I liked what that elf looking guy at the loblertarian debate said, which was that those that profit from the road can pay to fix it, such as business owners situated on said road.
>>75536374
I meant "would" charge us.
>>75536185
Holy fuck that's nice
how many levels of government do americans have?
federal
state
council?
>>75536374
>>75536452
What are you basing this on?
>>75536556
All of them ya dingus' . State, city,county,federal,etc.
>>75536593
http://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2013/04/01/toll-roads-and-double-taxation-the-left-and-libertarians-converge-n1554365
>inb4 shit source
You asked me and I answered.
>>75536248
the government
>>75535978
>>75533556
I live on a private road. Our community/neighbourhood has its own government you could say where we all agree to chip in money to fix the street infront of our houses.
>>75533556
>Be me with giant sledge hammer
>Demand 20 dollars or I will make pot holes in the street in front of your house
>Do this to everyone and become rich
>There is no police force to stop me
>Personal security is not allowed to talk, threaten, or touch me without having to pay me 1,000,0000,000,000 dollars do to my contract with the owner of the road since we are in business together.
Feels good man
>>75533556
Create government, have hole fixed, remove government. Cost? Just a few millions.
>>75533811
Can confirm, our highways look like war zones.
>>75535538
That sounds absolutely...
MA-GNI-FI-CENT!
AMERICA! HERE I (and my wreckable ass) COME!
>>75533556
Compacted with the blood of patriots.
>>75533636
Really makes you think
>>75533556
Voluntary collective action is a possibility but unlikely. Since it is voluntary there is a great likelihood of free riding, causing social unrest or the failure of attempts at collective action.
Another possiblity is that small or medium businesses that don't have the luxury of moving away fix them or have them fixed to serve their own needs. This however only focusses on roads important to the business in question, not relieving the problem in residential areas. It is also unlikely for a single business to be willing and/or able to pay for the entirety of the roads they use directly or indirectly again leading to a need for collective action and thus a collective action problem (free riders, who decides etc.)
Government has a unique position with their monopoly on violence (i.e. the ability to force everyone to contribute) to raise taxes and make decisions. The democratic process that creates the government gives it (at least some) legitimacy and accountability as a decision making body. They can also ensure that money is spent to the benefit of many and not just the few.
Wether the taxes raised are rightly proportioned according to ability to pay and (direct or indirect) use of the public goods provided from it is adjustable by all through the democratic process.
This solves, as best possible, the collective action problem.
A problem with the government version is that government tends to not be entirely democratic. There are lobbying groups, economic blackmail, limited choices, elites dominating the political sphere, incompetent decision makers and lets not forget incompetent voters. All these and several more problems cause the bloat of government and the inefficiency that is so disliked. These things can be solved in part by making the democratic process more thorough and the decision making process more transparent.
>>75537610
Post pic. If you're not full of shit show me your neglected war zone road.
>>75536216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysYl916i6Eg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCZIxkOe4ds
For almost the same reason why we shouldn't privatize the railways. It would be a huge expensive mess full of bureaucracy and legal issues. It's just a lot more efficient to keep these things under public ownership than mess it up with corporations that can only point fingers at each others.
>>75535619
The question is not as much wether you'd want to... the question is if you COULD. Roads are expensive af desu.
>>75537909
Truth. Privatizing the Dutch railroad system has been a nightmare. Many different parties pointing fingers at eachother, millions being spent on shit projects, the traveller and economy suffering due to negligent behavior, no real competition possible and taking the train is now more expensive than buying, maintaining and driving a car causing extreme congestion on our roads.
They sell it at Lowes for about $13....
Fix it for your community and help make America great again!
>>75538410
Do it now bro, so I can drive through over your roads because I'll be damned if I pay for mine when I can just drive over yours.
>>75534831
>The romans 3000 years ago could build roads
I wonder if the Romans had some sort of fascist government or something
>>75534831
Every single person screaming, SOMEONE DO IT ALREADY, IT'S NOT THAT HARD PEOPLE! at eacho other.
>>75536374
do you have any idea how much is a loaf of bread in a socialist country compared to a capitalist one?
>>75534831
Good luck driving on those roads with 130km/h.
>>75538753
I'm guessing it's cheaper in a capitalist one.
>>75538753
there are a lot of bread suppliers
there are not a lot of road suppliers
>>75538403
Was a fucking disaster here as well
>>75535200
This is payback America, for sending all your degenerates and yuppie trash to California since the fucking dustbowl.
Kys.
I'm the winner, yaaaay
(just fucking kill me)
Who will cry for us in Minnesota...
>>75539053
At least sewers looks good
>>75539053
No government involved. Go ahead and start fixing guys.
>>75539053
this could be solved by a coalition of individual who partake in the use of this road, paying a levy (weighted against the individuals income) to a central authority who would engage a private company in the repair and upkeep of the road.
>>75533636
>taxpayers are not good at dealing with companies
Having done many government contracts I cans tell you the Government isn't good at dealing with companies either.
>>75539162
That really makes you think, uh?
I'm now a #Statistrapist
>>75533636
>Well than
Jesus Christ. "Well then", it's not that difficult
>>75538815
does that mean that the govt is gonna get a better deal than a private company would?
>>75539133
I thought the penny dropped here>>75538790
nevermind, let's give it another go:
when theres potholes like >>75539053, the road owner doesn't collect any tolls (because people don't use his road), so he is forced to repair the road or suffer losses. The govt doesn't give a fuck because lemmings like you are all happy to keep sending them tax dollars no matter what condition the road is in.
>>75539208
That's the joke.
In the movie he says he's good at dealing with people and then starts losing his shit when he has to deal with people.
With government:
You call every week for 3 years and hole is not filled. You go out to fill it yourself and get arrested OR bribe the right bureaucrat to put your hole at the top of the list.
Without government:
You get annoyed enough and others get annoyed enough you fill it yourselves or pay someone to do it with all that money you no longer give to the bureaucrat.
>>75539278
>road owner
>owner
The entire problem in one fucking word
Who is the owner if not the government (everybody)?
>>75533556
see, you wait until an abo stands next to the hole then you run him over. drag the body into the hole and come back about 8 weeks later. repeat the process. the bones of about 12 abos will calcify and quite rapidly and actually make quite an effective alternative to bitumen
>>75539278
but fampai, there is only room for 1 road, so it can only have 1 owner
either a government or a private entity can own it.
>>75539162
No that would never work!
>>75536255
It isnt allowed. If you try to fix a piblic road, it is against the law. You can be arrested for trying to fix a road and competing with the government monopoly
>>75535735
>America
>Master Insurgents
I'm having a fucking laugh.
Designated shitting potholes
>>75539278
>the road owner doesn't collect any tolls (because people don't use his road), so he is forced to repair the road or suffer losses
so when WHY DO POTHOLES EXIST NOW. Potholes don't cause flats, they don't cause bumps, they don't cause rerouted traffic. They cause people to fix them didn't you know?. That's what they do, when the pot hole is created it is naturally created with a set of people that are motivated to fix it. The is no chance of a pothole going unfixed because the entire premise of a pothole being born is so that others can fix it. This is evident of all lack of potholes on planet earth. When a pothole is created, it is fixed. Point blank. I'm not sure why you guys don't get it. It was never the government. When the government was created it actually BLOCKED people from fixing potholes.
>>75539459
Libertarians are fucking idiots. That's why the only country to try it is Somalia.
Abandon thread.
>>75533556
Toll roads. User pays.
In my country, it gets fixed. Some workers roll up in a truck and pour asphalt into the hole. Then, the next year, the road is broken again (due to perma frost). Note how the government does not care about fixing the road long-term, instead they do just enough to make it seem like they care, but in actuality they are wasting money every year on "maintaining" the roads, instead of just building the roads well in the first place.
how about we let the competing road making companies compete to the point of doing it for free or fuck it theyll pay us money, fucking competition BITCH
>>75539459
This guy, if possible, he seems to know what he's doing.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/shortcuts/2014/aug/04/private-toll-road-bristol-bath-a431
>>75539610
road traffic competes with trains and planes as well, sensei. and you can always build another road.
>>75539717
are you asking me why do potholes exist now on government roads?
>>75539622
So then I'm assuming there coincidentally since there is no territory WITH roads but WITHOUT government to prove your point that potholes would get fixed without government I can't prove you wrong?. I'm also assuming you don't consider Iraq, Syria, and the Middle East as examples of how a lack of a single central entity in charge of a country could lead to problems?. They have potholes, and civil war and diseases rampant. I'm assuming a government in place would make things terribly worse?.
>>75533556
My local council once left a pothole like that for so long, I filled it in myself with the help of a friend (trained professional) and I just got taken to court, the case was eventually dropped, but the moral of the story is this is why people don't fix their own communities anymore
>>75539239
>not being radical libertarian makes you a statist
Between black and white are innumerable shades of grey.
>>75539459
A private company or individual whose coercive power over the community grows as the economic dependency on the road does. This increases his wealth and therefore even more power comes to him until he is functionally your king... the exact thing libertarians wanted to avoid.
>>75539730
>wanting to destroy my breaks and obliterate my gas mileage and patience to stop and toss coinage into a fucking bucket
Why haven't aussies killed themselves for the common good yet? Schlomo Scheckleberg needs to make a film like Deep Impact, but the entire premise of the movie is a countdown to zero hour where all Australians collectively kill themselves in order to save humanity.
>>75534879
>>75538660
>>75538750
>>75538766
This is what the private sector have managed to solve.
A fucking airplane, capable of transporting a dissasembled aircraft inside it, in order to fly to a destination to assemble it and then fly back.
Who literally thinks a hole can not be filled with dirt?
What task is harder to solve?
If you think we should keep zionist-supporting-governments for this sole argument then just literally fucking kill yourself, all of you.
>>75533556
The only reason this was created at first was because of government negligence.
>>75533556
some guy with a pile of gravel who is tired of the pothole
>>75539387
Your government failing is your own fault for voting in the wrong people and demanding the wrong things. Everyone consistently voted for less taxes and more spending throughout the USA for decades. The end result is potholes not being fixed now that the public debt is unmanagable. And who then, you ask, propagated the idea of using debt to fund social programs? I'm going to let you figure that one out for yourself.
>>75540040
>people have gravel near me
>>75534050
nobody. the man does it out of self interest
>>75539850
>Which way do you want do go to school today, little Jimmy? We can drive down Bank Of America Avenue, or you can catch a plane.
holy fuckin lol
Draw a penis on it
>>75540018
Wow man you fixed all of the worlds pot hole problems with your single comment I mean jesus christ why are there so many pot holes right now. What the fuck you just blew my mind man lol wow crazy
>>75540159
>implying jimmy won't be able to afford a G6 with the money he made from selling heroin to 12yo prostitutes.
>>75533805
15 trillion in worthless bank notes
>>75540224
Private sector fixes potholes. Potholes still rampant. Blame it on government.
>>75537013
>demand 20 dollars or I will make pot holes in the street in front of your house
>the first person I do this too doesn't give me money and shoots me shortly afterwards
>I die
this is how things would actually turn out
>>75537013
>smash up the road in front of my house
>i hit you with a bat and nobody does anything about it b/c no police force to stop me
>>75533556
>>75533601
I laughed way harder than I ever imagined but it's true. Cracks are still present in the road from previous major earthquakes. But just the other week I saw them replacing entire sidewalks and doing some roadwork.
>>75539850
I think >>75539717 is trying to convey that potholes are a conspiracy that are specifically and intentionally created by the universe because the universe is somehow a living and sentient entity that can control the manifestations of potholes. Apparently, his theory is that the universe manifests potholes for the singular and specific purpose of having the potholes automatically repaired by the universe the instant the pothole is created. The government apparently restricts the universe from repairing the potholes by simply existing in the pothole's domain. Anon is almost definitely on LSD, or is just a crazy person with mental problems or is simply a troll. I'm going to guess LSD.
>>75533556
Gravel
You know the stuff
>>75540133
excellent meme friend. well done
>>75540497
I just paid $500 dollars to fix a pothole in front of my house because I'm the only one that lives within the quarter mile stretch of road by it and can't go anywhere unless it gets fixed. It's better than it was before.
>now even more people take my road
>>75533556
It's a mystery.
>>75540694
500 bucks for what? shovel some dirt into that bitch. or gravel if you wanna get fancy
>>75539208
People so stupid that they can't understand a simple joke are now in charge of all the vital infrastructure.
And to make matters worse, whilst misunderstanding the joke, they then get indignant over it thinking it was serious.
And you want to run my water and power supply. I couldn't trust someone as mentally deficient as you to run a bath.
>>75537013
Son if you want to go at it all day hitting the concrete with a sledge hammer then give me a fucking moment to bring my sitting chair out onto the porch
>>75540759
holy crap what a baller
>>75540793
>dirt in a pothole
>is fixed paved road and NOT just a pothole with some dirt in it.
A road business makes roads that other business would pay money into so that they can quickly and easily move their goods. They will also have advertising along the roads.
>>75533556
I walk out with a fucking shovel
>>75540018
>just fill it with dirt
Yeah, while we're at it why don't we just have dirt roads instead of tarmac?
I see no problem here, brother slavshit. I think I'll go have a squat now and smoke a Newport.
>>75540759
what is the reason for the word * hospital * always being used like
I was taking to hospital
or
the guy was hurt and was taken to hospital
why isnt there a the?
The hospital?
why not *the* hospital?
also im asking this here instead of googling it so just dont even bring it up inb4
The invisible hand of the free market will take care of it. Silly australians missing out on economics 101.
>>75540018
You fill a hole with dirt...
Then you move 4000 cars and trucks per hour travelling at 100-130km/h over it.
I don't know what kind of dirt you guys have in Sweden but you better start exporting that shit.
Truth is that a highway costs between $2 million and $8 million per mile to make. Very few businesses have that kind of money laying around and those that do are probably not too keen on investing it in something that is going to be that hard to get a solid return on.
The Dutch economy thrives by its roads. Everyone who can, from big business to minimum wage workers, contributes to their being built and maintained and benefits from it as well. Instating tolls on our roads would mean many people would simply not be as easily able to make use of them, limiting their ability for economic activity outside their immediate environment. It would also cause the quality of life to drop considerably and demographics to shift towards overpopulated and dirty cities since rural areas would not be accessable and therefore unable to develop economically.
>>75540018
>Who literally thinks a hole can not be filled with dirt?
Me. Pouring dirt into a pot hole will do about jack all.
t. Civil Engineer
>>75533556
Have you ever seen a pothole on a toll road?
>>75540861
>some dirt
well, ideally you fill the pothole to the brim...and fill more in as needed
>>75540942
kek. Basically. These idiots just don't get it.
"muh simple one man, five minute, just a shovel, pull lose dirt out of my ass, better than new approach" is only a viable answer if you're in the Middle East or Africa. 1st world, paved road, asphalt covered, smooth riding people are only supposed to be in this thread.
>>75541136
>mfw there's a thing called rain and the pothole becomes mud
>>75541136
Who else is excited for the coming libertarian utopia? Because I'm so excited for the coming libertarian utopia.
>well, ideally you fill the pothole to the brim...and fill more in as needed
>>75540759
i mean we could all do cool stuff like this but who the hell is going to pay us do we just leech off the village?
hey guys im gonna take 22 years to make a path through a mountain so u guys kwith me taking 22 years of resources to sustain me during this? thanks.
>>75536593
Every fucking toll road in this state keeps raising the prices exorbitantly every few years.
>>75541249
fine, dont use dirt. use concrete
>>75541383
i sense negativity in this post...
>>75541135
Yes, France has plenty of sub-par toll roads. Never seen a pothole on the Dutch government-funded roads though.
Fun fact: The incompetence of your voting body causes corrupt and incompetent governments who in turn cause problems like potholes.
Potholes means you are shitty citizens, not that taxation to pay for public goods is an inherently bad idea. Maybe if you stopped spending more than you earn as a country you would have the money to fill up your potholes, Portugal.
>>75541394
In ten years the smoothly laid uniformly even road will be completely covered by pothole reparations.
I'd probably rather pay a small government to be in charge of my country and do relaying every now and then, you can have your roads. I know you won't drive on mine because yours is just as good.
>>75541445
NO BRO, I can't wait to be filling in potholes with gravel over and over again, finally free of statist coercion!
And maybe when the guy with the baseball bat kills the guy with the sledgehammer, we can dispose of his body piece by piece in the pothole! It's like free gravel!
And I won't have to pay taxes either! Woo woo!
>>75541912
I meant "county" or a similar sized jurisdiction.
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>>75533882
Spray paint a bright pink cock around it.
Fixed overnight.
>>75542157
>filled with bitumen
>""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""fixed""""""""""""""""""
>>75542235
You want an entire new road laid m8?
>>75542235
what issue u got with bitumen m8 i just used it to install a new bird house in my yard m8 u say theres a problem?
>>75540759
>not building a hospital in the village
>>75541917
>NO BRO, I can't wait to be filling in potholes with gravel over and over again, finally free of statist coercion!
>And I won't have to pay taxes either! Woo woo!
i would much rather fix a pothole every few months than pay taxes. but hey, thats just me
huuh rely maks u thonk. . .
>>75533628
spbp
>>75542533
yeah i mean its just that simple.
taxes are just for the pot holes.
or maybe, youre just shaving a little piece off your tax bill.
still gonna do it faggot?
>>75542621
>still gonna do it faggot?
do what
>>75542621
>mfw I fill one pothole every three months witih some dirt. I stop paying ALL federal and state taxes. Still receive social security and public services and I'm still protected by the police, military and courts still run perfectly fine.
>>75542475
Hospitals require a relatively large ammount of "clients" to economically upkeep the specialists and utilities. While a small first aid / general practice clinic would be possible for a small village, anything that requires more specialist equipment and knowledge needs to be centered in a place where it reaches a larger number of people.
You cant expect an oncologist to sit on his ass in a tiny village waiting for one of the 500 residents to get cancer.
>>75542728
>>75533556
Someone will fix it after they get tired of seeing it every day.
>>75533556
If the goverement is so great, how come the hole is still there?
>>75542933
>being this sure what someone else is going to do
>>75542906
as expected from a leaf.
"If you argue with anon, he wins."
t. Leaf
>>75542960
Because the road is there to begin with...
>>75542981
>not growing up a neet and expecting things to just get done passively as you mope around doing nothing
>>75533556
I could fix it, all it takes as a rental from home depot.
If only the government didn't take all my money through taxation, and by taking away all the jobs and giving them to the chinks.
Whats the "unfixable hole in road" meme all about?
>>75543099
>government gives all the jobs to chinks
>not private businesses doing this
>>75535008
Prewar or post war Russia :D
Got nothing on us Bulgaria :p
>>75543170
I don't think anyone is saying holes are unfixable.
>>75533556
>How does this get fixed with no government intervention?
It doesn't even get fixed with government interventions.
All the money goes to the refugees.
So the town just puts up a speed limit arount the potholes and doesn't fix the roads.
>>75543315
>he doesn't have giant sinkholes on every few crossings
Small time
>>75533556
You can fix it. But in some cases you could get in trouble by the government for acting in such an altruistic way. Lack of permits and such.
>>75543348
>road has been around for 30 years and only see one pothole
>fucking government never fixes anything
>>75539459
This. It's all about the right to own/maintain the road.
Owned as a collective. Offer shares in the road. Provide advertising on road/sidewalk. Sell shares in roads with property. Business owners and households have an incentive to better road to make household or business look better/function better.
>>75543571
>Driving down a wonderfully paved road, no complaints, for 45 minutes every single day to work and back.
>what the fuck is the government doing with my money?
>>75543571
That only used to happen here on district lines, like on the borders between one town and the other.
But now it's different. No money.
Why can't they sent refugees as forced labourers to fix the roads if they spend money on them anyway?
>>75534831
h-heh. and i thought swedes were smart
I don't know. I want to call myself a libertarian, but here where I am in Florida, it is really nice to never see a pothole. I'd actually like to place a bet with someone some time who's visiting for the first time, and give them 24 hours to drive around this county and try to find a single one, and I'll win.
If I lived in Niagara Falls, NY, then I'd place a bet with someone to try to find one street in the city that doesn't have one.
I also believe in net neutrality, which is also a government regulation.
I'll never find that perfect party to align myself with, but I guess I shouldn't be ashamed of having my own fucking opinions.
>>75533556
It doesn't get fixed with government intervention.
>>75543514
man. one thing india has on us is that when crap like this happens they can just instantly fill it with poo.
>>75533556
There is someone in my city that fixes them for free.
Not refilling them, but actually fixing them.
Long life to Pablito.
>>75543647
Also property values increase with good roads and no potholes.
>>75544028
Niagara Falls is brutal. Not only do the streets have potholes, but the potholes have crackheads in them.
>>75543672
>>what the fuck is the government doing with my money?
Probably using most of it to buy $115 million dollar airplanes and give military "aid" to countries like Japan, Israel and Turkey.
>>75544875
If you're serious, I'd rather that be done with the money then private businesses storing it hoarding it and storing it in offshore accounts so nobody except themselves touch it.
>>75544251
People in Finland tried to do that and they almost got fined by government. Working on the roads is highly regulated, random people cant just go and fix roads
>>75533628
Not in a 3rd world shithole like USA it doesn't. Visit Europe and see infrastructure that works.
>>75544988
If you were forced to give up 30% of your income either way, then I guess I would rather have a 50 year long trillion dollar Jet airplane program then forfeits my gibs to Microshaft's billion dollar bank account in Pooland. But, without taxes how would we get away with a long term trade deficit with China that will eventually destroy both the Chinese economy and US economy? These are some examples of the great competence of the United States "Democratically" "elected" leaders. I wish I was born during a different, more simple time period where people that were openly socialist were imprisoned and the delusional SJW's with their 57 different genders bullshit didn't exist yet. It would have been great to be born in 1910 and die before 1985.
>>75545376
Depends on where in the US. It's perfect where I live. And rarely do you run into something retarded like a one-way street in the US.
>>75544988
That's just due to dumb tax laws in home countries. Which is the governments fault in the first place for setting taxes so high they give a disincentive for business.
>>75545376
I had the displeasure of visiting both Ukraine and Moldova. Like a slavic Detroit.
>>75533636
Is there more of these? this scene is pretty transferable.
The UK spends more money on roads than anywhere else in the EU and we have the worst roads/potholes.
Someone thought it was a good idea to start painting cocks around potholes to force local authorities to pay attention.
GUarantee guys if you started painting swastikas around your potholes they would be fixed in double the time.
>>75546141
Why exactly would you purposely visit an impoverished Eastern-European shit hole? Did you want to get carjacked at the end of a poorly made improvised pipe shotgun on a rural highway?
>>75545834
You're assuming that businesses wouldn't be hoarding it and keeping it for themselves if they did bring businesses back to the states. They don't want to distribute it among everyone or else they would have no problem bringing that money back here to begin with. They just don't want to give it up PERIOD.
>>75533556
Just get some indians to shit in it
>>75535200
Holy fuck, my hometown has gone to shit.
>>75544251
http://www.diariodelyaqui.mx/secciones/principal/117189-continua-pablito-tapando-baches
>>75545743
San Francisco is one big one way street. And I visited eight american states, all the southern ones seem to have terrible roads. California especially.
I've never seen a privately owned road with potholes
>>75546768
Yeh, duh.
Profit seeking motive to form mutually beneficial contracts is what makes the world great.
>>75533636
>well sir, I never drive on that road
>it needs to be fixed though
>yes that's all well and good but don't ask me for the money for something I don't use
>the few people who use it don't have enough collectively to fix it
>that's YOUR problem, not mine
>>75540018
Airbus is a private company yes, but owned mainly by governments. Maybe we can replace shareholdings by dirt too?
>>75539053
>1st world country
Shiggy.
>>75539672
>tactical_mobilityscooters.webm
>>75541016
>The invisible hand
fucking kek
>>75533556
quebec here, we pay the highest taxes in canada and have the worst roads
so i can honestly ask how does it get fixed WITH government??
>>75539208
HOLY SHIT REALLY?
