Just watched this. Make me so pissed. All we had to do was fly over a fucking plane ffs. I hope Trump wins.
>Hillary says these contractors are lying
>tells the families of the dead they are lying
seems legit
>>75224275
No one has explained why Obama/Hillary didn't "just fly a plane", or do anything really. They just abandoned them. What was her motive? What was she trying to protect? No one is clearly explaining that. Someone has to have a theory.
>>75226078
It's just pure fucking weakness and liberal incompetent leadership. Fucking Ghaddafi and all the dictators were much better for those fucking sandniggers than we are.
>>75224275
>>75224605
>>75226078
>>75226604
This movie has known historical inaccuracies. There was no stand-down order. "Fly a plane" wouldn't have done shit, not that a "plane" was even available. Over 135 heavily armed militants attacked a lightly defended compound, it was over in less than an hour. Started at 9:30, "rescue" came at like 11pm, 90 minutes later. And they were attacked too, barely made it back to the CIA annex alive.
It's a political movie with the lies you want to hear. Hear them if you want, I prefer the truth.
>>75226078
The ambassador was going to expose arms transfers to ISIS.
>>75227491
There is no funded effort to defend Hillary Clinton! That is a Republican lie!
>>75227491
Either way it was a clusterfuck. Of course Hollywood hypes it up so u fucking watch. That's expected. Our foreign policy has been complete shit for a long time. Hopefully Trump will get in there and fix it.
>>75227690
Of course the politics are dirty. The investigation is dirty, The coverup is stupid. I don't like Clinton or the guy who went bankrupt 3 times. They're all horribly slimy.
Benghazi was a well coordinated surprise attack, with heavy weapons, rpgs, gun trucks, etc. If you had 500 people go banzi on the white house, you would get in. All you have to do is overwhelm the defenders, and you can do that with 10 to 1 numbers. That's the problem with terrorism, it finds a soft target, and we cannot harden everything.
>>75227491
>There was no stand-down order
Proof? Just so I can offer it when I repeat what you just said.
>>75227491
>This movie has known historical inaccuracies. It's a political movie with the lies you want to hear.
At this point, what difference does it make?
>>75227690
My wife, who loves the hilldog, fell for the movie, hook, line and sinker. Convinced we could have someone prevented it. Sad.
>>75228297
>d-did you just misspell "banzai"?
Hey Stasi, know who they killed first in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising? It wasn't the invaders.
>>75227491
>It's a political movie with the lies you want to hear. Hear them if you want, I prefer the truth.
That's a bit of an unnerving statement. It implies a certain hostility toward people on this board in general, and that they are your political/ideological opposition, and that's a given. You also seem to be signalling that you have superior virtue, because disagreeing with you point of view means "believing lies you want to hear", while your beliefs are the product of a virtuous commitment to the truth. That sounds incredibly biased. You should post as many sources to back up your morally transcendent view as you possibly can.
>>75227491
There are actual soldiers who have said quite differently.'
Also the only people bankrolling Michael Bay are the paymasters for the US Armed Services recruiting department.
>>75228914
*TECHNICALLY* There wasn't a stand down order, there was just no official permission to launch a rescue. Which you need, to cross a border. I've heard claims from troops that jets were fueled for an attempted run.
>>75228914
proof. I have proof? When everyone else is lying?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_Hours:_The_Secret_Soldiers_of_Benghazi#Partisan_marketing
"A House Armed Services report found that air support was unavailable, or it would have arrived too late to make a difference.[41] "
"In the film's most controversial scene, the CIA chief in Benghazi (identified only as "Bob") tells the military contractors there, who seek permission to go defend the embassy, to "stand down", thus denying them permission. The real-life CIA chief stated that there was no stand-down order.[46] His statement was echoed by the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee's finding that there was "no evidence of intentional delay or obstruction by the Chief of Base or any other party."[47]"
Well, if you believe that, it's pretty fucking obvious. If you think it's all political, there is nothing I can do.
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>>75227491
There is no funded effort to defend Hillary Clinton! That is a Republican lie!
>>75227622
If not him, probably Vilerat.
Goons are an unpredictable lot.
>>75226078
The CIA was buying weapons and funneling them forward to the next frontline. Also, there was a cache of some 300 MANPADS that the real terrorists wanted, and we couldn't have that in the open media
So we blamed it on a youtube video, produced by an Egyptian Jew, starring pic related-gay porn star
>>75224275
Michael Bay is an American Patriot whose only bad movies were the Transformers Sequels. Don't believe the critical Jew
>>75229240
Oooh. There you go, you did it again, only you cranked the moral superiority up to 11/10.
>why should I have proof when everyone else is lying?
Well, there should be some way to determine what is factual, regardless of the charges made in either direction. A record of events, testimony, something perhaps more irrefutable than hearsay, satellite photos, radio intercepts, military records that were leaked via Wikileaks, etc. You know, things that people can look at without listening to obviously biased partisan shills that want to push your emotional buttons with heavy virtue signalling or moral appeals to loyalty, etc. Your massive wall of text, proclaiming absolute certitude on a matter of some dispute -- only to follow it up with a Wikipedia quote of some testimony (ie, hearsay) and nothing else? You're either memeing, baiting, or funposting on an entirely new level of irony, or you're a sanctimonious idiot who took a wrong turn at >>>/co/ and >>>/lgbt/
/pol/ is a board of facts, a board of peace
(you kike tranny bugchasing nigger)
>>75227491
Buzzing insurgents with jets tends to make them scatter. I'm sure you know that
>>75229068
oops, I did indeed fuck up banzai. I know the leader of the Lodz ghetto asked the parents to give up their children. To be killed so he could live. Jewbejewbejew.
https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007282
Guys this film is very bigoted, patriotic, nationalistic, and Islamophobic. The Benghazi protests were a legitimate political expression in retaliation to our daily massacring of children in Afghanistan. Just look at these normal guys in the pic, can't you sympathize with them? This is the Trump of films. Don't be on the wrong side of history...
>>75229647
>>75229186
That was the plan? To buzz an active attack on the compound that was on fire with jets? But not drop bombs on everyone, including those under siege? I'm stumped, why didn't they fly jets really low over the city to scare everyone off?
>>75229621
I don't really know why I should have access to secret information that you don't. To me it is quite obvious, a well coordinated surprise attack overwhelmed the the defenders and they died in a fire. Plus I linked to the article with the references so you have """""""facts"""""""
Also this board is satire, everyone knows that, you nigger.
>>75230037
Don't you fucks have decent avionics to be capable of bombing in close proximity to the building as to scatter and kill a few of the fuckers?
>>75230037
Or just to level the city around the compound, not all of the enemy were so deeply engaged.
Hell if you attack a diplomatic center the result should be a city reduced to a crater.
>>75230356
>this board is satire
0.02 shmekels have been deposited to you account.
>>75230356
>why I should have access to secret information
Was that the best straw man you could think of to not respond to what was said in that post? So, translation:
>I don't know shit about this subject I pretend to be an expert on
Thought so.
>Dumfuck Post #24243453784519182
>>75230473
Who shills harder, the person using taqiyya, or the person revealing it?
>>75230356
They had a saferoom that was supposed to take a long ass time to breach. I'd assume it had its own air supply too.
Either way the fact that we didn't leave a trail of carnage as repayment and instead arrested an American for being "Racist" (Okay, technically for violating is overly strict parole by going on the internet) is absolutely shameful.
>>75230410
> the result
Indeed what was the result?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack#Aftermath
A couple of months ago a Libyan posted a thread here, it was pretty interesting. Libyans are berber, not arab, don't have sharia, and hate ISIS because they want to institute sharia. Also they are proud and tied to their land, there are no Libyan refugees flooding Europe.
Honestly a crater may have created more terrorists. And the attackers probably wanted that kind of reaction.
pic unrelated.
>>75230738
If you are so curious then read about it.
>>75230782
My understanding is that they were smoked out.
"The attackers entered the main building and attempted to enter the safe haven.[81] They then spread the diesel fuel room and set fires.[81][82] Stevens, Smith, and Strickland moved to the nearby bathroom, but then decided to leave the safe haven after being overcome by smoke.[84]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack#Assault_on_the_compound
>>75227491
There was definitely a stand down order, especially when the LT COL is on the fucking record saying obama was in a crisis room, watching the stand off taking place whilst knowing the stand down had been given.
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>>75231226
It lasted less than a hour, no mention of hiding from the smoke in roof of compound
>this guy is totally the expert that we should be listening too!
>especially with all those amazing sources like wikipedia
>>75229621
>if I keep repeating this bullshit, it will eventually be true
>>75230738
Considering that was not subversion but a clear shill mark.
Nobody uses "/pol/ is satire" besides limited newfag trolling. It's implied but never stated.
>>75226078
she was protecting the Saudi Islamic State you mug
>>75228973
underrated reply
