Well, /pol/, it looks like a Trump/Sanders debate is in the works. I don't know what to expect from this. I feel like Trump will be his normal self and Sanders will be meek and timid.
Then Sanders gets cuck sympathy and Trump looks like he beat up an ancient communist Santa Claus/Crypt Keeper.
>>75208992
Came here to make this thread.
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/735689625407131648
>>75209512
>ID: "MFw"
Well, if you insist, Lord Kek.
>>75208992
>debate with someone who has no chance at the nomination
What a waste of time, he has nothing to gain from this
>>75208992
They won't debate. Trump has literally nothing to gain by doing so. His opponent is Hillary; Sanders has already lost.
If Trump "wins" the debate, he gains nothing. If he somehow loses, it hurts him in the general election.
>>75210105
They have both already said they would.
See>>75209512
>>75210105
Doesn't he have the potential to pick up some Sanders supporters through this? Seems like a good move to me.
Plus people will notice Hillary refusing to debate Sanders after she made a pledge to, it doesn't look good for her.
Now this is popping up:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/05/26/clintons-nightmare-trump-and-sanders-say-they-might-debate/84963488/
I guess this could work in Trumps favor. Don't know why else he'd agree.
>>75211058
Trump: I'll debate Sanders for $10 million for women's health issues
California could very well tilt over to Sanders in this case. Trump is shooting Hillary in the knee for the state when she thought she was safe by refusing to debate Sanders. Like Sanders said, he's going to run it all the way to the convention, and Trump is here to help get him the exposure he needs so he continues to make Hillary's rise contentious.
>>75208992
No, Sanders will be VERY aggressive.
He's only timid in front of a female (protected class). In front of cis white male bourgeoisie scum he will ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK.
>>75211120
Nah he'll donate $10 million to the Clinton Foundation after its opened to an audit
Sanders is a cuck to guerilla leftists. That's how his whole ideology was supposed to function for the Soviet's to weaken the U.S. Useful idiot.
Here's the thing, he will not back down on Trump. He was a cuck to Clinton, but will be very hard and very tough on Trump. Again, this is how the useful idiot leftist operates.
You see, it's the same with Barack Obama the nigger president. He bows to despots and dictators, but stands firm against Republicans and calls them worse names than he does with actual enemies of America. He is also a useful idiot that would've welcomed Soviet soldiers if they were to conquer the States.
>>75211337
>reddicvck
You have to go back -> reddit.com
>>75209911
I agree, but Trump has been making genius moves during his entire campaign. I don't see the point in doing this either now that Hillary is most likely going to be the nominee, it just puts Bernie in the spotlight for longer, and I think Hillary is going to be much easier to beat. But I'm sure Trump sees something he gain from this, otherwise it would just be a waste of time and energy.
We'll see what the madman has up his sleeve. Maybe he'll agree with Sanders on some issues at the debate and pick up some disenfranchised bernouts after Hillary wins? Maybe he thinks Bernie really is easier to beat than Hillary and will throw the debate so Bernie gets some attention and wins the nomination, and destroy him in the general? Who knows.
Trumps plan all along is to win Sanders supporters. They hate Hillary so much that he wants them to come to his side, that's why he always drops subtly little bits of bait for them.
This debate is one of the first chances for Bernie supports to actually see him, and actually be exposed to him. He isn't going to brutally destroy him, he's going to play nice and try to win them over. He's going to be respectful but firm (unless bernie starts flinging shit) and come out on top. Aftwards, once it's Hillary or Trump, there will be a bunch of bernie supporters who have seen him in action and he's already appealed to them slightly. It's his chance for them to see him in actual conversation, not media bias
Trump should switch to using brutal cunning rather than the cunning brutality he used to belittle and annihilate the other GOP candidates.
Sanders needs to be soundly beaten via counterpoint, not beaten with sound. To win over the fence sitter Berniefags Trump will need to up his quality and substance in his rhetoric.
>>75210105
The whole point of this stunt is a jab against hillary. To rile up feelings against hillary. Trump is using Bernie as a tool.to do this since hillary went back on her word and didn't want to debate. This plays so well as further painting Hillary as a piece of shit.
>>75211523
Sanders has no chance to win the nomination. He does have a chance to win the California primary. If Sanders wins California it would be a bloodbath. The democrats are pissed off that Sanders asked for this debate.
>>75211885
That's another ulterior motive for the debate. Hillary looks bad for refusing to debate Sanders before California. Maybe if Dems see Sanders debate Trump and realize Hillary didn't step up they'll switch over and get some more votes over on Hillary? She'll still win the nomination I'm sure, but that makes bernouts even more disillusioned when she wins with the whole process and they may end up voting for Trump.
If Sanders win more of the total popular vote and Hillary still gets the nomination from superdelegates, it's over. Sanders supporters will HATE HER. At least many of them will, you'll have a few cucks that will vote just because she's running as a Democrat.
>>75208992
It's not you delusional liberal
>>75210588
No sanders ran his mouth like he already does trump made a suggestion
Nothing more then a cry for help form liberals
>>75212782
Was that supposed to coherent?
>>75211523
There are many upsides to Trump debating Sanders.
First, it puts Trump in front of Sanders supporters who only get second hand information about Trump. Some might realise that the "racist sexist homophobe"tag just doesn't fit and will come to support him when Bernie loses the nomination.
It also makes Clinton look weak because she won't debate Sanders, but Trump will, and he doesn't even have to. This is Trumps main strategy to win the election.
If Bernie performs well, that could be just what he needs to win the primary in California, and can gain some ground against Clinton. He won't win the nomination, but the closer he is to her, the more likely Bernouts will be angry at the DNC and will defect to Trump, or Sanders will run as 3rd party and split the Dem vote.
4 dimensional chess.
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Reposting because this sensationalism/ 9000th hour of free press is honestly a non-issue. So Trump decides to debate Bernie... Ok, lets take a quick look:
Bernie doesn't debate. If you've ever watched him, you'd know this. He has a staring contest with the floor as he takes as good and rough a fuck as the other candidate can give. Then he clumsily whines about a few things before walking off stage and posting something irrelevant on twitter like you shouldn't have to ask for ketchup packets at McDonnalds.
All Trump has to do is not break Bernie in half like Bane did to Batman in Knightfall. He just softballs with him and goes in with kid gloves. Just enough to put on a show and blow out the commie, but not hard enough to alienate Bernies rabid fanbase. It shows Trump is doing more for women (thanks to the charity donation) than Hillary and her card dropping ever did/will, while further dividing the Democratic party (just take to social media to see them spurging out already). This will net Trump a decent chunk of Bernouts come November after they get a chance to actually see him speak in all probability as we see Clinton now finally taking her deserved lumps in the press as she nears total victory and gets the nomination. It also gives Trump some much needed experience in a 1v1 debate. Sanders is Glass Joe. He's a tutorial.
>>75212942
Trump, Sanders 2016?
>>75213138
There is no way Trump will pick Sanders to be his VP.
My prediction is he will pick a successful politician, not a businessman, celebrity or socialist.
>>75213138
That's disgusting, anon. You have a sick, sick mind.
>>75211474
Republicans are enemies of America.
>>75213343
He should pick Yeb! Bush for maximum keks.
>>75209911
>Trump is nice and polite to Comrade Sanders the whole time
>wins the cuck vote
>>75213384
Get out NOW
>>75213498
He isn't wrong. They're just as much to blame for just rolling over and letting Obama get what he wants.
Bernouts will try and burn the stadium down.
Does Bernie's voice piss anybody else off? He has the voice I do when imitating a Jew for a joke. Although, I would say it's probably worse. I really fucking hate that guy. Kek willing, Trump will ruin him.
>>75213442
No no, you have it wrong. The cuck vote want's to see their candidate, Bernie, get annihilated on live TV. Cucked by Trump, right if front of their eyes.
What will Trump say during the inevitable:
"Mr. Trump, do Black Lives Matter?"
>>75211842
Especially if he throws the debate to make sanders look like a better candidate, so when clinton wins the nom, the left wing of the democrat voter base will be disillusioned and less likely to vote for her.
Trump's essentially cucking Hillary and it's amazing
>>75213597
What the fuck did Obama get? From my view, nothing besides saving us from Trump and Co's recession.
>>75213732
"yes, they do. And I'm going to make this country GREAT again; I'm pro-America. Pro-Americans. And when I get elected, we're going to build a wall..."
this is a smart play for both bernie and trump
trump already said that the profits from the debate (expected 10-15 million) will go to a WOMEN'S HEALTH CHARITY, look at him getting those votes
in the debate he'll be very kind and professional to sanders in an effort to seem presidential and maybe woo some sanders supporters
sanders gets the opportunity to try and win california and draw attention away from hillary
>>75208992
Trump will just flatter Bernie to cuck hillary out of potential votes
>>75214118
Explain how Trump was involved with the recession.
>>75214170
I don't see how this can possibly benefit both. Sanders literally can't win the nomination; either he hurts Trump and thereby helps Hillary, or he gets annihilated by Trump, and hurts Hillary. Sanders really has nothing to gain from this, whatsoever. He's delusional if he thinks otherwise.
>>75213658
It makes me cringe when he starts trying to scream stuff and it sounds like he's got stones caught in his throat.
>>75214402
>He's delusional if he thinks otherwise.
He still thinks he can win the nomination and california is critical to that
it is interesting though, this definitely hurts hillary more than it helps sanders and may sour their future relations... an interesting play
Donald Trump will bring prosperity back to America. We will all be rich again, just like it use to be!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GaOKb1IXJpo
>>75209911
>What a waste of time, he has nothing to gain from this
You disappoint me.
Do you realize what trump is doing? The whole purpose of the debate is to win over Bernie voters who will be jaded after Hillary gets the nomination.
I predict that Trump will point out that he's similar to Bernie when it comes to trade, supporting workers, healthcare, and non-intervention. I can also see him looking at Bernie and saying "Why do you plan to support Hillary after the DNC gave you the shaft? Isn't that a little demeaning to your supporters? Most of them loathe Hillary, so why would you back her?" Bernie then looks like an utter asshole if he says "because you're worse!"
Trump knows what he's doing.
>>75211120
Well considering that I can think of one woman who's going to be having a stroke because of this debate I think donating that much to women's health issues is the least Trump and Sanders can do.
>>75214558
He can think whatever he likes, he's not going to get the 80%~ victor he needs in California just to stay in the game. The primary is over; Hillary won. I can see why liberals like Paul Krugman are absolutely exasperated with Sanders.
I see this as too big of a risk vs reward but I've learnt not to question Trump because he knows what he is doing
>>75213732
"Every life including the lives of African Americans matter. Actually, African Americans have been hit badly under the Obama administration. Obama has done NOTHING for African Americans. Look at real unemployment rates and filter it for African Americans. They don't have jobs because they aren't available, and the majority are lower/middle class. This is thanks in part to Obama's push for open borders and Common Core education which fails to prepare them, or anyone, for the real world. We have to go in a new direction and we have to do it quickly."
the 1% of the 99% of the wall street not paying their fair share!
we must make education free!
superdelegates are unfair and the system is rigged!
>>75212942
trump will also probably directly ask Sanders if he thinks the party is being "unfair"
this is his moment to split the Bernie people from the party.
>>75214651
Right. Trump has the potential to make Bernie lose his spaghetti here if he jabs him in just the right way.
>>75215127
That's pretty good, actually.
>>75208992
>Sanders will be meek and timid
because that's totally happened at the debates so far
>>75215522
Good point. No matter Bernie's answer, Trump wins.
Imagine if Bernie answered "no" and outed himself as a Clinton shill.
LOL
>>75213732
All lives matter.
>>75215918
Sanders has always said that he would support the democratic nominee.
If you think this will be breaking news, you're wrong. Try to keep up.
>>75213918
is this the next level in aussie shitposting??
>>75216220
If he was REALLY in support of Clinton, he would have dropped out a while ago. He's really hurting her by staying in the race this long, and he knows it. Sanders is a disgruntled old quack, and Trump can use it to his advantage.
many potential benefits to both sides but this could go badly:
sanders hates trump and his immigration policies, he's also a democrat and supports the party. I see instead of using this as a chance to gang up on clinton and garner some support he will be a party shill(cuck) and go on the offensive against trump. Trump has good ideas but is not coherent with his policies and this could be blown wide open by a coherent politician. I see that he would best clinton but not so sure about sanders. Also sanders previous debates werent directed against his opposition, as he still supports clinton the gloves never came off.
basically its all in sanders court if he uses this to gain support vs clinton or as a party shill trying to take down trump
>>75216448
I don't know, would his supporters follow him blindly if he blatantly stated they should vote for Hillary? Even if he did that, it seems like some of them would still gravitate towards Trump here.
>>75216411
keep dreaming up stories if they make you feel better
clinton didn't drop out against obama, she ended up secretary of state
>>75208992
Let me explain to you what will happen at the debate:
Trump and Sanders are pretty much the same cup of coffee beside some semantics. On most topics they actually agree with each other 100%.
>trump won't attack Bernie on anything beside the "free college"
>bernie won't attack Trump on anything beside the "tax plan"
>both will spend 90% of their time to rant about Crooked Hillary and the rigged primaries of both parties as they can't gain anything from attacking each other.
>nothing else will happen beside the "we agree that we disagree but we want to take care of the same cancer just with a different kind of chemo" shake hands.
Resulting in:
>a media outlet will get sick ratings
>$10M+ raised for a worthy cause
>sanders get's a nice bump in the Cali primary altough it won't make a difference
>trump gets a nice bump for the presidential campaign
>hillary takes a dive across the board as she declined to debate Bernie and the presumptive Rep Nominee decided to debate him even before the actual nomination. (That's a first time ever in the US)
If Hernie does not proclaim Cankles a Lying Demon, Trump will make him admit he is a Cuck.
To all saying Trump has nothing to gain, go & read Scott Adams blog.
>>75216681
The 2008 primaries were also incredibly close, right up until the very end. Sanders has been dead in the water for months.
It's too late for him to support her. He should have dropped out weeks ago; he's already dug way too deep. If he turned face now, it'll just come across as completely disingenuous. Which is why he'll keep fighting right up until the end, even after he loses California.
What are the chances that Trump actually wins?
Every mainstream news source & journalism site slanders him, hating him is popular on EVERY social media site and he doesn't bother damage controlling any of it.
Are the majority of these vocal opinions just kids or what?
>>75216900
Actually, the 2008 primary died a few months before the end too. Obama had a smaller lead, but there were smaller and less states that had to go in the final months
Obama supporter in 08 btw
>>75208992
They both should start shitting on Hillary and Biden. Both Hillary and Biden are their enemies and opponents. Bernie will get shafted by both, and Trump need to start assuming it will either be Hillary or Biden.
>>75216900
>If he turned face now, it'll just come across as completely disingenuous
pls just stop dreaming up stories, for your own sake
>>75208992
>>75217070
Did you even read what I said? To repeat: the 2008 primaries were very, very close, right up until the end. That is, when Hillary submitted, like a good partisan democrat.
>>75217217
You're delusional, dude. Sanders supporters HATE Hillary, probably even more than any Trump-supporting republican. The longer the primaries go on, the more they'll hate her.
Time for a capitalist to obliterate a socialist.
>>75217258
>the 2008 primaries were very, very close, right up until the end
And like I said, no they weren't. Hillary was basically done in March since only around 400 delegates were at stake after that period of time.
This is genius for Trump. Sanders staying in the race to the convention or running third party is very bad for Hillary. Sanders will screw over the Democratic party (which he has no loyalty towards anyway) in order to satisfy his ego and go "all the way" which Trump is only encouraging with this debate thing.
Sanders was already going to be hard to rein in by the establishment, but seeing Trump actually win the nomination makes Sanders jealous. How can Sanders fall in line with the establishment and retain his dignity when his entire identity is the "fierce independent"? Trump is inviting him to keep fighting and Sanders will go with it in spite of good sense.
>>75217373
it doesn't matter, he's literally said he would support hillary if she were the nominee.. from the very start.
there is nothing disingenuous as you claim that there is.
>>75217481
If Sanders submits after California, you'll be right. But I doubt it. He's going to drag this thing on right to the very end, at the democratic convention.
>>75210105
HE'S DOING IT FOR A WOMAN'S HEALTH CHARITY SO THAT SHILLARY CANT USE THE WOMAN CARD AGAINST HIM
HOW COME NOBODY IS SAYING THIS
>>75217763
And he should stay till the convention
>>75217843
Trump and Sanders just double-dicked Clinton. I love it.
>>75217585
Yes, I'm sure that's correct. He'll take it to the democratic convention, lose, and submit to Hillary.
But it will be too late. He's done enough damage; many, many of his supporters will never vote for Hillary. They won't vote for Trump either, but that's irrelevant. If he submitted now, he could minimize the damage. But he won't, because he's a sad, disgruntled quack.
>>75217843
You cant just donate money to people who need money to prove to the people that you want to help people who need money. BIGOT!
Trump will say how Bernie is being treated unfairly.
Hello agree with him on things like being anti tpp and how the middle class is being devastated etc.
Trump will try to highlight the common ground in order to get the Bernie votes. Trump knows Bernie is finished anyway. It's a great plan. Everything to gain and nothing to lose.
>>75217897
exactly. people are saying that this will hurt trump but this will only unite trump and sanders supporters further than they have already become in the past few weeks to ensure an anti-establishment presidency.
>>75218158
yes you can, faggot.
>>75218261
I don't think it'll hurt Trump (or help him, it'll be neutral imo).
But man, I bet it'll make Debbie Watery-Shits think real hard about siding with a borderline-unelectable candidate.
Trump will win!!!
>>75216918
because the liberals might actually watch the debate this time instead of reading misquotes from tumblr
>>75218434
So are you just anti-Democratic establishment, or what?
>>75208992
Trump destroys Sanders and the concept of socialism among millennials is forever destroyed.
>>75218707
You could make an identical one with Trump, just change it to tax cuts
I bet you think that's a legit point, that there is actually similarity between money directly involved in politics and fiscal policies.
>>75217251
kek
>>75218667
Honestly just anti-establishment in general
Had a feeling Obama was a puppet just like the rest, but at least he had a soul unlike Hillary
>>75218707
This is the pinnacle of political illiteracy.
>>75215127
saving this for a pasta.
>>75214651
Bernie is as far from Donald as possible in both a political and a moral standpoint
>>75218948
Your precious communist candidate is going to be annihilated, and his supporters will never vote for Hillary. Regardless of what happens, no matter how you look at it, Sanders is a godsend to Trump.
The brilliant move would be to come out in favor of marijuana legalization while all of the stoned bernouts are watching. Guaranteed to win over at least half of bern victims.
>>75219394
>Your precious communist candidate is going to be annihilated
Trump could leave the debate sobbing like a little girl, and you people would still be convinced that he aced it here in your echo chamber
So I'm not exactly in any hurry to attempt convincing you otherwise
>>75219188
>muh trade
>muh infrastructure
>muh rigged system
>muh hatred of super PACs and lobbied interests
>muh marijuana
you are incorrect
>>75219188
I dunno about that, they both represent:
1) anti-establishment hatred
2) resentment toward globalism and free-trade neo-liberalism
3) they actually both appear to be pretty socially liberal (maybe excepting the whole build-a-wall thing)
4) they both signal "pro-worker"
In a sense, the both of them have more in common with each other than with Hillary.
>>75219842
>closing trade is an idiotic move that would destroy our country
>What detailed plan does Donald have on infrastructure
>Trump is literally the most rigged person in USA
>Probably only real similarity
>ALL the candidates support marijuana
???
>>75208992
I don't understand. Why is the Republican nominee wasting his time debating someone who is effectively out of the running?
>>75217251
this
>>75219831
Barney cant even beat a woman who is seemingly doing everything possible to lose. How the hell can he beat the centipede?
>>75219831
Regardless, do you disagree that Sanders staying in the race is hurting Hillary? That he should have preferably dropped out two months ago, next best today, and if he stays till the convention (which he will), it will inflict maximum damage on the Democrats?
I'm curious if you're actually retarded, or just another well-intentioned, but woefully deluded, millennial wanna-be communist. Answering this question will let me know. Thanks.
>>75219188
>voted for romney in the 2012 primary
Idiot.
CNN REPORTS: HILLARY CLINTON WINS TRUMP V SANDERS DEBATE!
>>75220451
CNN reports that Hillary must be named supreme leader for life. Who the hell watches that shite?
>>75220369
Wat? I honestly cannot logically connect these two statements in any realistic way
>>75220316
Why are you asking unrelated questions?
Staying in the race is obviously not to Hillary's advantage, but neither of them are going to get the nomination through pledged delegates alone, so it's his right to stay in the race. And considering how things are going for Hillary at the moment, there's still a chance. Any other candidate would do the same.
Let me ask you an unrelated question. Do you unironically believe that Trump's tax """"""""plan"""""""" is actually going to get passed in any way shape or form.. And that he somehow will make Mexico pay for a wall?
>>75219188
Only on the infantile two-party political compass. Trump and Sanders are both antiestablishment candidates and Trump will use that to establish common ground.
Sanders just gave Trump the ear of all the bernouts. The redpill comes.
Not to mention the whole thing makes Hillary look like a fucking coward who needs an elderly man to face her enemies for her.
>>75213406
He should act like he picks yeb, invite him to a celebration party, he arrives to find an Eyes wide shut ceremony. Everyone wearing trump masks and hats. Jeb is gang raped by elephants.
>>75220911
> And considering how things are going for Hillary at the moment, there's still a chance
Thanks. That's all I really needed to know; you're retarded. Well, I can't really blame you for not knowing anything about American primaries, it's not like you live here.
> Do you unironically believe that Trump's tax """"""""plan"""""""" is actually going to get passed in any way shape or form.. And that he somehow will make Mexico pay for a wall?
I'll humor this though. Yes, it's very possible the wall will get built, though I suspect it's purpose will largely be as a public jobs program, sold on nationalist and "xenophobic" rhetoric. As for whether Mexico will build it or not, well, I think the the answer to that is implicit in my previous answer.
>>75221221
are you literally retarded? if she gets indicted she's done for
if bernie drops out now he's going to be replaced by biden or some other chump party insider
>>75221221
>I'll humor this though. Yes, it's very possible the wall will get built, though I suspect it's purpose will largely be as a public jobs program, sold on nationalist and "xenophobic" rhetoric. As for whether Mexico will build it or not, well, I think the the answer to that is implicit in my previous answer.
biggest non-answer i ever saw
>>75221093
Cruel anon, very cruel. Jeb! was already raped once this year, during the primary. No need to put the man through that sort of trauma again.
>>75221482
How is that a non-answer? I don't follow. Trump likely has a shot to get a major public jobs program going, sold on """racist""" rhetoric. Of course Mexico isn't going to build it. That would defy the entire purpose.
Secondly, it is highly, highly unlikely that Clinton will be indicted before the convention. So whether Sanders drops out now or loses at the convention, it makes no difference. If Hillary is indicted, then yes, the Democratic establishment will most likely nominate some party insider in her place. Or, they might nominate Sanders. But him staying in the race is irrelevant to that purpose, and besides, let's face it, she's not going to be indicted while Obama is in office. Obama is a good partisan player; he may hate her, but he's not going to throw the parties nominee under the bus.
>mfw trump let's bernie talk himself into the grave/corner/end
>>75220973
Dude, just look at their backgrounds. Look at their body language, or just the rhetoric itself. Look at their net worth. Their idea of good policy. Bernie himself says trumps an "embarassment for our country". Bernie fought for civil rights while trump was loaned a million dollars. I can go on and on, but I think you get the point
>>75209911
>implying
We wants Bernie's voters. He'll give him a nice debate, low on the insults, a real discussion where he can show he's reasonable. This will cause his supporters to look at him in a more favorable light, and more will vote for him over Hillary in November.
>>75220911
>Trump can't get a sensible tax plan through
>but Bernie will institute socialism in the USA
SO delusional
the amount of bernouts up for grabs for Donald is in my view highly overestimated on this board. 95 percent will end up sitting out or just voting for Hillary. Yeah, a lot of them hate her but Bernie will endorse her and that will ease tensions a lot.
The reason this debate works is tha Donald gets to stretch his legs against a Democrat. and if he wins, he looks strong, but if he loses, he reinvigorates Bernies base which will get to say that Bernie is the better GE candidate (which he isnt) at the convention
>>75216918
The truth is the more the media, pundits, and politicians slam trump the more transparent the corrupt system becomes. Trump has illuminated the semen stains on the suckers of corporate cock.
>>75208992
This is Bernie trying to get votebait. Trump isn't going to debate him. He has literally nothing to gain by doing it. Trump is just going to say he wasn't being serious.
It'll turn into a riot, calling it now
>>75222430
Good. A healthy dose of martial law never hurt anyone. Well, except for the rioters, of course.
>>75217843
Also this. Holy shit he's a fucking genius.
>>75220066
>>closing trade is an idiotic move that would destroy our country
hmm, if i recall i think nazi germany used protectionist policies to pull itself from degenerate to superpower. also, if you think the great depression was caused by mercantilism, you should probably take the neocon cock out of your mouth
>>What detailed plan does Donald have on infrastructure
>b-but muh roads
>>Trump is literally the most rigged person in USA
>h-he has money, dat means he is corrupt
the real world doesn't share your money=evil beliefs. most people can differentiate between being bought and being wealthy
>>75208992
I expect a bloodbath between the supporters.
I can't wait.
>>75218244
This. The debate itself is of no importance. What's important is how he presents himself to the Bernouts so they'll vote for him over Shillary come November
In fact, if Trump can somehow get Bernie to say he's not a racist, Nazi, or fascist, then it's game over.
>>75208992
I hope Bernard cries.
>>75218948
gimme a break denmark fag
>>75216918
>What are the chances that Trump actually wins?
Honestly? Pretty damn high unless the establishment shifts into maximum overjew and bribes/threatens the electoral college or something. Hillary is about as likable as a bag of drowned kittens.
>>75223060
Not that he has money, but he obsesses over it and his billionaire status. He's a fucking bitch. btw, most christians (if they are true christians) disagree with your last statement
>>75218948
free college is bullshit. talk about getting rid of the fed reserve first and the fucking debt THEN we'll talk about free college. gotta be fuckin kidding me.
>>75208992
This.
>>75222034
>How dare Trump receive free stuff and become successful
>By the way, I'm going to give you free stuff so you can become successful
Nice doublethink
>>75208992
>comments on twitter already calling Hillary a chicken
That fucking madman does it again. He's made her look even worse. Now on top of everything else she's a coward.
>>75223668
Nice double use of 'success' - bernie supporters are living paycheck to paycheck. they dont want anything more than to be somewhat financially stable. Trump literally just asked $10 million dollars to debate Sanders. 10 million. What does he even need that money for? Hes a fucking bitch dude
>>75223840
>bernie supporters are living paycheck to paycheck.
looks like they can afford the internet, cellphones, weed, and chairs to throw at democrats
>>75224053
And? Does that make it right to give tax cuts to billionaires? Why not help the working class?
>>75223840
>bernie supporters are living paycheck to paycheck
>bernie supporters
>paycheck to paycheck
>paycheck
>>75223840
umm, I think he wants the $10 million to donate to women's health issues, or something.
And Bernie's supporters are doing fine. Virtually all of them are white and under 30 - they can go live with their parents, if they think their too holier-than-thou to get a job like an adult.
Boxing promoter Bob Arum wants it on pay-per-view. He's guaranteeing at least $20 million will be raised
http://www.boxingscene.com/bob-arum-offers-stage-trump-vs-sanders-debate-on-ppv--105036
>>75224205
>Why not help the working class?
Trump does want to help the working class, that's why they're voting for him. The entitlement class is in Bernie's camp.
>>75224246
Holy fuck this is going to be memetastic
>>75208992
>I feel like Trump will be his normal self and Sanders will be meek and timid.
Nah. My prediction is that Trump will be a little more "low energy" to make himself look like the reasonable sane one of the two, and Sanders will just go for an all out offensive.
Sanders has nothing to lose. He's almost certain to not win the Democratic nomination, and he's already gotten what he wanted by being able to set the DNC platform by appointing about half of the steering committee. The only thing left is for him to rant against a billionaire on national television and he'll die a happy man.
On the other hand, Trump could potentially take a hit. If he is made to look foolish by Sanders, that doesn't bode will for his attempts to woe disgruntled Sanders supporters this fall. If he makes Sanders look foolish, he might enjoy a little bump, but I think ultimately that will just make Democratic and left leaning "Never Clinton" types think twice about not voting for her.
Basically Sanders has nothing to lose and everything to gain, and Trump has a little to gain, and potentially a lot to lose.
Though in all honesty, the biggest loser here is Clinton who not only is having a rough week due to the State Department report, but also basically making herself irrelevant while the media eats up this Trump v. Sanders debate idea.
Genius move by the Sanders campaign to put this idea out there. Kimmel must be sympathetic to Sanders to set the whole thing in motion by baiting Trump into accepting the debate.
>>75224246
America forever cemented itself as a LEGEND-tier democratic nation with this election cycle.
>>75224440
Exactly. Bernie is the candidate of "I spent $70k on my degree in medieval history, and I'm entitled to a high-paying job".
Trump is the candidate of people who just want to spend a hard day at work, and come home to the families which they support.
>>75224246
It will be the biggest tv event ever
>>75224208
Holy outlier anon
>>75224706
What exactly are these hard working people missing in their lives that they need Trump?? I need an explanation
>>75224797
Moderators will be Cenk Uygur, Cornel West, Milo Yiannopoulos, and Alex Jones
people that like Trump will say Trump won, people that like Bernie will say Bernie won
they both know this. It's just so that they get publicity while Hillary Clinton stands off to the side doing nothing
>>75225092
Blue collar jobs, retard.
The kind of shit that a man with a near room-temperature IQ can do, and be good at. Besides, someday alpha-go and her children will make all of us economically obsolete. Better start working on a solution to that problem, fast.
>>75208992
Why is Sanders debating Trump when Sanders isn't going to be nominated?
>>75216100
Don't think he can say this because it'll segue to immigration policies and will bite him in the ass. He has to dance around it
>>75224619
WE LIVE
WE DIE
WE LIVE AGAIN
WITNESS MEEEEEEEEEE
>>75208992
Alright let's look from Trump's perspective here. I think the reason he wants to debate is.
A: More coverage for himself and his platform
B: Extend and olive branch of sorts to the Bernie crowd or at least make them see he isn't literally Hitler
C: Hit Clinton hard
There are ways this can backfire.
A: Sanders dominates Trump in the debate and Trump drops significantly in polling
B: Trump tries going too far to appeal to Sanders fans and pisses off the GOP even more
C: Sanders is propelled to a dominant enough position where he matches O's surpasses Clinton in all remaining contests and wins the nomination
I think the cjanves of backfiring are much smaller than the pros of debating, backfire (A) is the most likely and if Sanders loses the nomination Trump can still make up lost points and it wouldn't be a total disaster. If it backfires (A,B,C) than that could be a total nightmare for Trump but I'd put those odds at less than 1%, Trump can certainly hold his own in a debate and he'll have plenty of people in his corner to give him ammo on Sanders from the Senate.
>>75225374
>>75225374
Charity
>>75225374
Becuz Hillary won't do it
>>75225317
Hmmmm
>>75225374
For fun and profit.
Wont leapfrogging everything to debate Trump before he has the nomination just make the DNC hate Bernie, making it impossible for him to get the super delegates he needs to have a slim chance at winning? Popular support is too late at this point
>>75225510
Don't Hmmm me, faggot
I'll beat your punk ass, and feel great about it
I think that Trump debating Sanders is a bad idea.
Not many people seem to think this. But I do. It worries me. If Trump wants to get Sanders supporters to vote for him in November, this is the wrong way to do it. People think this will be "Trump and Bernie gang up on Hillary", but no, it will be "Trump vs Bernie", and what makes them different will be emphasized more than ever before.
I think engaging with Sanders, when his campaign is all but over, is the wrong move. It's the worst possible time. I think this will just further alienate Bernie supporters, not bring them closer to voting for Trump.
I'm worried that we may look back on this moment as a big mistake. I hope not...But I just can't help but feel this was a bad move.
>>75208992
What if Bernie dive bombs Trump, Christie style. Bernie twists some trumps words and tricks him into saying something blatantly racist?
>>75225569
It was a trap and Sanders fell for it. I'm expecting that Trump will be less inclined to debate and actually try and coerce Sanders to his side.
>Trump goes into the debate looking weak
>Agrees with Sanders on some points
>Debate ends
>Sanders gets a surge in the polls
>Hillary has to deal with Sanders all the way to the convention
>Sanders loses anyways
>Sanders supporters warm up to the idea of Trump after the debate
>Trump comes down so hard on Hillary that media outlets will declare it a rape
>it's happening
>>75225662
>It was a trap and Sanders fell for it
I'm a fucking moron, and if I and /pol/ can see the issue there's no way someone on Sanders team didn't. He has to have some endgame to this
>>75209911
>thinking you know better than the God Emperor
Trump has seen everything that ever has been and ever will be and every outcome of every hypothetical situation, he has the gift of the Sight.
Trust the Emperor more than you trust yourself.
>>75225629
He's not actually going to debate him. He's going to point out how they're similar candidates and how Hillary can't be allowed to be president. Trump is looking to build bridges, not burn them.
>>75225610
whats up your faggot ass?
>>75208992
>yfw Trump unhooks his mic, drops it, walks to Sanders' mic, and begins talking like the whole stadium is his rally while Sanders assumes his cuck pose.
>>75225941
Even at this point, he can't completely go down on a dirty socialist on national tv, he still needs the Republicans to like him
>>75225908
I once saw Trump place his hands upon a handicapped child's head, and the boy got up out of his wheelchair and walked. He was then unfortunately torn apart by peaceful Anti-Trump protestors when he accidentally wandered out of Trump's magical salt barrier.
>>75213732
He has already answered this.
"Black lives are very important, white lives are very important"
>>75225884
Why? Trump was the underdog from day one, and he thrashed the Republican Establishment, defying all odds and predictions in the process. We have every reason to suspect he's a political genius.
Sanders is just an old disgruntled quack, who lost to fucking HILLARY, of all people. He has no endgame. He's just deluded and bitter, just like his supporters. He's grasping for straws at this point, too stubborn to realize or perhaps care that he's sinking Hillary's ship by staying in the race.
>>75225455
Witnessed
>>75225941
But bernie's goal will probably be the opposite.
It's going to be tough for trump to try and be nice without looking weak next to bernie. If he manages to do it, it will cement him in the general, though.
>>75225941
Yeah, but Bernie is going to debate him, and debate him hard. Bernie hates most of Trump's positions, and since he's pretty much done, he will probably see this as his last chance to get his message out.
I think people may be in for a rude awakening, Bernie will try his hardest to make Trump look like a fool. Like I said, this is Trump vs Bernie. Not Trump/Bernie vs Hillary. I don't know why everyone sees it that way.
>>75225965
nothing, after I rip off your head and shit down your neck, faggot
>>75223840
Charity. Given the kind of ratings this will bring, that shouldn't be hard to come by
jesus bernie is going to fucking annihilate trump
he has actual arguments
>>75226258
Bernie has been a cuck this entire primary. I doubt he has an assertive bone in his body.
>I don't know why everyone sees it this way
Because the debate is just a farce. Trump is trying to get Bernie's people on his side in the general, or jam a wedge deeper into the DNC, dividing it in time for November
>>75226111
I mean really, there are 1 of 2 possibilities:
1. Trump has the gift of the sight and has used his powers to manipulate events in his favour over his career so that he might truly make america great again, for he has seen the consequences of Shillary or a cuck candidate winning the presidency, and knows that he must save the West.
2. Trump is actually from a dark future where Shillary won and America has descended into chaos and mayhem and the world has been split between the forces of Dildolech, commies and the Caliphate, as the Jews fight the final battles for dominance and enslavement of the goyim. So Trump invented a time machine and went back in time, and thus, with his knowledge of the future was able to make GOOD DEALS to get gorillions of shekels, and also be about 30 steps ahead of every other candidate this entire time.
>>75226320
You must have a shitty life. LMAO @ your life
>>75211523
I think this is the plan, actually. He wants to let the retarded college students know that he's a much better choice a president than Hilary. Remember, a lot of what Trump says and does actually makes a lot of sense... IF you actually listen to him, which most of his opposers don't.
What if by some freak miracle, hillary gets the nom?
>>75226187
>too stubborn to realize or perhaps care that he's sinking Hillary's ship by staying in the race.
Sinking Hillary's ship is no great loss to him
Do you think he wants another fucking centre-right democrat to replace boss nigger?
>>75226468
It all makes perfect sense. Trump's seemingly out of place hairstyle and complexion could easily be what is trendy and fashionable in his time period.
He's giving the proceeds to a women's health charity or something. No matter what happens, he wins.
This is a win win for them both and I am extremely excited.
It gives Sanders a last ditch shot to change californias cuck mind, his only shot of pulling a nomination miracle.
For Trump, the chance of reward is much greater. The fact that Hillary refused to debate will be mentioned many times leading up to and during this event. Hillary doesn't need any more actually true bad press. Her opponent doesn't have any true bad press, only >hurr nazi
As mentioned, Trump will also have a giant chance to make a case to the cuckboi millenial Sanders supporters in swing states. You know, the ones who literally control this election at this point?
If Trump can prove to Sanders cuckbois that he is by far the populist choice over Clinton, he has a shot at taking the house.
......or he could just be the controlled opposition scheduled prior to the Clinton crowning ceremony......
We will find out in the coming months.
>>75223840
It's going to charity, not to him. For women's health issues. Shouldn't a good little libuck like you agree that the big, powerful media outlets can spare a measly ten mil to save women?
>I feel like Trump will be his normal self and Sanders will be meek and timid.
You guys are forgetting that Bernie is known for being the exact opposite of that. He's often unhinged and yells. He's tamed himself for the election, but now he has nothing left to lose. This debate is his last chance to win california and convince those super delegates that he's the best bet against trump in a general.
If the the super delegates think his debate was effective he may get enough of them to vote for him. Dems are more scared of trump than anything. The best argument bernie has is "I will beat him. She might".
This is actually good for bernie and bad for the other two. Trump has no reason to do it other than to spin it for a good charity thing to pander to women. And Hilary not debating bernie like she promised and her email scandal getting worse, she's looking increasingly bad.
>>75226406
Sanders is actually known for being aggressively argumentative in the Senate. If you don't believe me, check out some of his senate hearing questioning.
Examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCWXrMCGJT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1l4nu3HhjE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Nk25C6mes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJaW32ZTyKE
That's the Sanders you're going to see in a Trump v. Sanders debate. He's given Clinton the kid gloves treatment, assuming that it would be bad to trash her entire campaign if she won. He has no reason to do the same for Trump.
>>75226501
Look, kid. If I ever see you in public, I'm going to fucking annihilate you. You'll wish you'd never been born. Even your own mother won't recognize you when I'm done with you. You'll never leave your house again, even if you somehow live through what I'm going to do to you. Kid, if you ever see me, you'd better run your faggot ass in the other direction as fast as your bitch ass can take you. Just a warning. There won't be another one.
>>75226752
Nice try. He did that with the veterans and they barely got anything. Sad!
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/donald-trump-veterans-donations/
>>75226468
Yes. Have faith in the skills of the god emperor.
He definitely..... Make America Great Again
>>75226911
Ive been bullied before. You dont scare me. You could be 10x bigger than me and I still wont go down without a fight.
>>75226841
Yeah, Bernie has to act like a schoolteacher against Shillary because if he ever got actually mad the press would crucify him for raping her arguments. He has no reason to hold back against Trump, even Hillary supporters will enjoy it if he gets a few solid hits in
>>75226729
>......or he could just be the controlled opposition scheduled prior to the Clinton crowning ceremony......
Occam's razor. If Trump wasn't running Hillary would still win, so controlled opposition is unnecessary because she would have ended up against fucking Yeb!
The idea of Trump and Bernie will suddenly become the media topic for a week and leave Hillary off to the side. Trump always gains with media coverage; and doing this also takes some of that media attention from Hillary. Makes voters really think about who Hillary is as a lifelong political phony. When she gets the nomination, the Trump vs Bernie idea will linger all the way to November and sow regret in Democrats.
>>75227018
Bitch, my arms are bigger than your head. I could take your skull and crush it like a walnut. One punch to your gut, and you'll be shitting blood for weeks. I could pick you up and snap you like a twig if I wanted. You don't stand a chance in hell. One look at me, and you'll be running home to cry in your momma's lap. Not that it will save you. Piss me off, and you'll live to regret it for your very short life.
>>75226854
Then Trump wins by making it seem like Sanders has been holding back against Hillary. And if Bernie tries to stump the Trump, Trump punches back. But I don't see it being like that. Beating Trump in a debate doesn't help him against Hillary.
And then again, he's a crazy commie who doesn't know shit about the economy or job creation.
>>75208992
Trump would be wise to spend his time pointing out/keeping to conversation on how much they agree on and how sad (!) it is that Crooked Hillary has robbed Bernie.
Bernie is either then forced to let his own blood spill defending Clinton or acknowledge Trump's similarities.
>>75227002
Let's be honest, Sanders is better at debating than Trump. Trump may supply the memes but Sanders will probably put forth the better, more well researched arguments.
And I'm saying this as a Trump supporter. I think immigration is this country's biggest issue right now, but it's easy to see that Sanders could come across as far more well reasoned than Trump on non-immigration issues.
>>75227364
Too bad most people are idiots, and Trump's rhetoric is infinitely more effective.
Who was it that won their parties primary again? Was it Sanders? Oh, no, that's right; it was Trump. Sanders is a disgruntled loser who lost all his debates with Hillary and doesn't know when to quit.
>>75227364
And this hasn't worked in the republican debates either. It's all about personality. Trump has to go out there and make a good case to liberals, that's it.
>>75213732
No lives matter
https://youtu.be/mLbiHs1RRCY?t=31
The typical jew tactic will be pandering to minorities and drowning Trump out with claps to appear to have 'won'
Screencap this
>>75226854
People are starting to actually believe the Bernie Cuck caricature straw man. I started forgetting myself. Thank you for the reminder
>t. Trump Bot who's a former Bernout
>>75213658
Both his voice and face repulse me at this point. I physically cannot look at him for too long. The only other person on this Earth that shares this privilege with him is, ironically enough, that Jewish guy from h3h3
>>75217897
schlonged
>>75209911
Nothing to gain but the respect of Berniebros
>>75227175
Yeb! would most definitely be controlled opposition, as the establishment republicans DO. NOT. CARE if there is a democrat in the white house.
I couldn't say whether Trump is.. only time and very close analysis of the narrative being presented by the master storyteller jews will tell.
What i'm saying is that politicians on both side of the coin have loved the stagnation, extension of globalism, and epic cash-in they've cleared during Obama's "first nig" reign.. why mess it up when you have another puppet "first" whom the american public seem to be willing to vote for?
The public is slowly waking up, I agree.. but for every one that is awoken to the truth.. which is often not the real logical truth but just the version they've created for themselves and/or had created for them.. there is 5 more new voting citizens who's genetically lower average IQ levels make them harder to redpill.
This may be the final battle before the demographics consume us, and liberty finally dies.
>>75223303
Atleast drown kittens are more honest than her.
>>75227041
Good, he can spaz out like a crazy Jew and Trump will play nonchalant and hit him with the bantz
>>75227813
Reminder that Sander's supporters are all infantile wannabe communist revolutionaries who have never had a real job or lived outside of their parents house except when they went to pick up their basket weaving degree at their dogshit second-rate college
who want's their respect; they're never going to vote for him anyway
>>75208992
T H E MOMENT OF THIS ELECTION
WHO
WILL
WHEN
BE THERE
OR BE SQUARE
A lot of people in this thread have the right idea, doing this debate will probably only help Trump - otherwise he wouldn't be talking about it
This gives him one of the last opportunities he'll get to expose himself to Bernouts, so maybe he can leave a good impression
In addition, this is one of the few ways that Trump can get Bernie to run as an independent. Even if Trump (intentionally) throws the debate, it raises the chances that Bernie will run even when Shillary is the nom.
I am just interested in seeing what Trump decides to do here
>>75210105
Trump has plenty to gain assuming sanders doesn't turn into jeb, trying to stump trump. Only then would trump be wasting his time.
>>75208992
Trump has been nice to Sanders, while Sanders has called Trump a dangerous racist. I want this to happen so that all the bernouts can see their idol for what he truly is.
>>75227670
>Bernie Cuck caricature straw man
When is the debate?
>>75225458
The dnc is so far up Hillary's ass that they are finding her deleted emails. Sanders could literally be God and they'd find a way to give Hillary the win. Sanders can't win because they won't let him.
>>75228164
One of the reasons he lost a lot of my respect both politically and as a man.
https://youtu.be/R4N93wprbW0
>>75227894
>This may be the final battle before the demographics consume us, and liberty finally dies.
You're right about that. If Trump loses, kiss America goodbye.
>>75214273
This. He's going to make Bernie look like a "Trump Stumper" so to speak to further fuel the "Bernie would do better in the GE" idea and thus further divide and conquer the Dems.
>>75228086
This. He could lose on purpose to give Bernouts confidence to run 3rd party, guaranteeing a Trump victory. I mean, think of it. Let's say Bernie destroys Trump in the debate, showing everyone that he's the one to beat him, and then the establishment picks Hillary anyway. Could you imagine the sheer Bernout cuck rage?
>>75210105
He can simultaneously slam Hillary for being too much of a coward to debate Bernie and pick up some Bernie voters by mentioning how badly the DNC treated Bernie and how the system is rigged.
He doesn't really have to win the debate. I actually think it'd be a good opportunity for him to get some practice debating a non-Republican before facing off against Hillary.
>>75226854
>>75213732
Why don't they ever just say American lives matter?
>>75228554
that would be dumb, because he'd lose conservative support for not being a strong candidate.
>>75228445
The heartache that those who have created a Messiah out of Donald Trump is going to flood the Earth with their tears in about 2 years.
What he can promise and what he can deliver are two very, very different things. He gets my vote because he might be able to change the tone and tenor of the republican party enough to kick Jesus Christ off of it's executive board staff. Very little else will be expected of him or any other person elected president without a super majority of very likeminded legislators and SCOUTS philosophical support..
>>75210105
There's a lot that could be done with this debate. Play nice with Bernie, and talk mad shit about Hillary and the democrats while a shit fuck ton of people listen.
>>75228768
I think when people vote for a guy who wrote "The Art of the Deal", they know what they're getting.
I think the bigger question is, who will host the debate?
>>75227348
>Then Trump wins by making it seem like Sanders has been holding back against Hillary.
I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion. The people who want to see Sanders unleash will be satisfied, and the Dems who think he's been mean to Clinton will realize that he's been going easy on her and have less to complain about.
>I don't see it being like that. Beating Trump in a debate doesn't help him against Hillary.
Clinton is the biggest loser should this debate take place. Make it look like she's not even relevant. And it's not like she was intentionally excluded. Sanders tried to get her to debate in California and she refused. While the media hypes up Trump v. Sanders, the only attention Clinton will be getting will be about her email scandal that keeps getting worse.
>doesn't know shit about the economy or job creation.
Job creation is actually one of the areas where Trump and Sanders agree. And while you might think that Sanders is clueless about economics, Trump has proven himself pretty clueless too (tariffs, defaulting on debt, cutting taxes while increasing spending). I hardly think that either of them will stomp each other out on economic issues.
Remember that while Clinton plays into Trump's narrative of corrupt establishment politicians being weak and inept, Trump plays right into Sander's narrative of guileless billionaires attempting to buy off the political system.
Trump is very good rhetorically, but Sanders has an edge when it comes to actually talking about the issues.
>>75228937
Mygyn Kylly
>>75228939
see
>>75228565
Now will you shut up already, you're starting to sound like a Bernout from reddit.
>>75228587
It's called a Greek Meander. It's very common in Classical and Neo-Classical architecture.
>>75229105
>he could lose on purpose
Do you think a guy whose entire brand is "winning" and is known for his giant ego is going to throw a debate? Even if that's his intention, he won't be able to help himself. That "theory" is really grasping.
>>75229135
so the greeks are behind this?
the sauce only thickens
>>75228974
>tfw Trump fucks her live on PPV where anything can go and Bernie just watches.
>>75213732
>They'll matter the same if they work just as hard
>2 losers debating
>both will end up like nazis and communists
>hillary remains unsoilded
g-guys I'm turning into a hillary-grillary-hot-dogillary
>>75214344
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
>>75228939
>the Dems who think he's been mean to Clinton
I haven't heard from any of these types of people no matter where I look. Who the fuck thinks he's been mean?
>>75215840
Its like the people here run on pure memes and spaghetti.
