"Myth of the light pigmented "Nordic looking" Proto Indo-Europeans debunked.
So as it turns out, prehistoric North Pontic Steppe populations buried in Kurgan mounds are overwhelmingly dark pigmented (by modern Eurocentric standards). The populations of this area and time period are the most favored among linguists today to have been the speakers of the Proto Indo-European language (this hypothesis is known as the Kurgan hypothesis). See data below for details."
"The table above represents frequencies found in ancient samples compared to modern Ukrainian ones. The dataset for the ancient sample is a combined pooling of both the Yamnaya culture and the succeeding Catacomb culture from the same area. Note the SNP rs12912832 [OCA2] in the HERC2 gene which predicts blue eyes is present in 65% of modern Ukrainians, but was only present in 16% of the ancient samples. Also note that the ancient samples have much lower frequencies in all three SNPs which predict light pigmentation including SNPs in the TYR gene which are associated with blondism.
SOURCE : Wilde et al., Direct evidence for positive selection of skin, hair, and eye pigmentation in Europeans during the last 5,000 y PNAS, Published online before print on March 10, 2014, DO:I10.1073/pnas.1316513111
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"Another article released a year later basically revealed the same thing, although this study focused the pigmentation of many ancient European populations in comparison to modern ones including pre Neolithic Western Hunter Gatherers and early Neolithic Farmers in Europe. But the study did also include a sample set from the Yamnaya culture which is identified by most linguists as the speakers of the Proto Indo-European language on the eve of their great expansion. Only 11% of the Yamnaya in this sample from the Samar Oblast region carry alleles for light eyes, as they are noticeably darker pigmented in skin and eyes than contemporary Southern Europeans. See data below.
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They were just dark skinned white people.
>>75145475
>he hasn't kept up with all the papers since 2014
>he hasn't read Haak, Reich, etc.
>>75145475
Aren't Italians overwhelmingly dark pigmented (by modern Eurocentric standards)?
>Look at theses arrows on a map haha all you know was a lie
>>75145475
This isn't anything new.
Most of us already know this.
White people are of the Caucasian race
Caucasians are Arabs, barbers, Persians, slavs, pakis, Indians and whites.
Some Latinos too if they're of Caucasian blood
Also, not everyone on /pol/ is a nazi.
>>75145737
Only by basement dwellers standards.
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>>75145475
HOHOL IS MASTERRACE
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>>75146762
WE WUZ EVERYONE
>>75145475
>Hahaha
>Ancient Caucasians were...TAN!
>/POL/ BTFO
Shut the fuck up, OP.
>>75145475
This is true
Blue eyes and blondness came from beyond the Ural mountains so basically white blonde people are dirty mongoloids
>>75147167
Rate.
>>75145475
>ukrainian
>ukrainians
no such things
>>75147083
well greeks itallians and spainards are not white.none of the gypo faggots from prusiia are white.
fins are mixed with huns who come from the steps same with slavs
>>75147167
so Brown hair is the masterrace?
it's almost as if indo-europeans weren't all formed by the same group
>>75145475
Not verified this translation
http://omacl.org/Heimskringla/ynglinga.html
But as it says in there that, there were two people (aside finnic people) living up here.
>The one was native and called Vaner/Vanir.
>The later indo european one came later, these are the æsir
>It says that the æsir brought the language with them, and it became our tongue
The æsir was said to come from asia somewhere, hence the name, these are Óðinn and the ása Gods, the historical ones.
Some gods were also of Vanic origin, and were also historical people.
The æsir also brought with them the heathen court system and customs. But most notably the language.
This is old, very old. And predates your christ which is indirectly referenced in here actually. See Frode.
>>75145475
"By modern Eurocentric standards" So you're telling me they're whites with olive skin, exactly the same as Italians, Spanish and Greeks? You BTFO.
>>75145475
Who cares? White people exist now and are better than everyone else.
>>75148096
> they're whites with olive skin
I don't know anyone around here who have green skintones.
>>75145475
Ooga booga indeed, my amico Italiano.
>>75145475
They could have mutated into snowniggers later, if Indo Euros were not white, then why are indo Euro R1a Y dna people blonde even in Asia?
>>75149060
>if Indo Euros were not white, then why are indo Euro R1a Y dna people blonde even in Asia?
Inbreeding.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/06/130618-albino-gorilla-inbreeding-genes-science/
>>75149167
Inbreeding causes albinism not blonde hair and blue eyes. white are not albino niggers, you stupid faggot.
>>75145475
Norwegians have the most Yamnaya input (Proto-Indo-European) out of any European population
Southern Europeans truly BTFO
>>75149451
>Inbreeding causes albinism not blonde hair and blue eyes
Inbreeding just cause the spread of recessive alleles, albinism is an extreme example but there's inbetween.
>white are not albino niggers
Albino dravidians are quite close to european looking anyway.
>you stupid faggot.
Wow, rude.
>>75149494
>most Yamnaya input (Proto-Indo-European)
It positively relate to leftism/liberalism and sjw, it's the cuck gene?
>>75149972
>Inbreeding just cause the spread of recessive alleles, albinism is an extreme example but there's inbetween.
Why are all inbred populations blonde and blue eyed then? what evidence do you have?
Inbreeding never cause blonde hair and blue eyes only albinism, in every animal.
>Albino dravidians are quite close to european looking anyway.
Not really. Indians are not nigger btw.
Why are you here? Seriously go back to your spaghetti board, shitskin.
>>75145996
Why do you keep posting your garbage images here 24/7? In fact why are you so wrong about everything you ever post about genetics?
Protip: Indians have their local Abo blood and they are probably the worst representitive of anything Indo-European. Secondly, Yamnaya swarthy genes comes from the Caucasus people, i.e. churkas.
>>75149494
I don't think so. In other studies it's Balts, and even we have more than you.
>>75150729
In which study? Reich is quite recent.
>>75150729
>In other studies it's Balts
So the russian-baltic butthurt it's an old affair?
>>75145612
They were predominantly black haired, brown eyed but light skinned.
>>75145737
Yamnaya people and Italians are very different. They plot miles away from each other on a PCA (west-east axis) even though they are both not as northern as modern North Euros.
>>75145475
It basically said that european are in Europa for thousands more year than we thought.
>>75150906
Actually I think what I'm referring to was Corded-Ware, but there isn't much difference between them anyway.
I have to look more into it what was the deal with Balts, they always seem to have the closest connection to pretty much any old population.
Ayo hol up
Are you telling me that Aryans DIDN'T walk out of Africa to the promised land of Europa?
Are yo telling me that skin colour changed because of enviromental factors and natural selection?
Are you telling me Aryans came from space to interbreed with shitskin proto-europeans?
And what do nazis have to do with proto europeans?
>>75145656
These studies are from 2015, retard.
>>75147167
This is true, they originated with Scithyans, but the first indo europeans (Yamnaya) were brown eyed brown haired
>>75149060
R1a people were central Asians and that's were blonde hair and blue eys mostly come from, they also come from Northan European WHG, but the yamnaya themselves did not have it:
ndeed recent findings suggest that in the Bronze Age the distribution of pigmentation in the Eurasian steppe was much different than it is today, with Central Asians and Siberians (such as people of Andronovo-Sintashta, Tashtyk, Tagar, Pazyryk, Karasuk cultures, Siberian-Scythians of the Altai region and Xiaohe mummies of the Tarim Basin), being lighter-haired and generally lighter-pigmented than people living to the west of them, such as steppe people of Yamnaya and Catacomb cultures in the eastern European steppe:
Pigmentation deduced so far from aDNA of some ancient steppe remains is as follows:
- Yamnaya culture - dark hair pigmentation; mixed eyes (light and dark colours); darker skin
- Catacomb culture - predominantly dark pigmentation just like in case of Yamnaya culture
- Xiaohe mummies - light brown, dark brown, chestnut, red and black hair colours
- Andronovo-Sintashta - blond, light brown, dark brown hair; mixed eyes (light & dark); fair to medium skin
- Mongolian Altai - dark brown, brown, dark blond, black hair; eyes mainly brown
- Tagar culture - blond and brown hair; mixed eyes (blue, green, brown); skin fair to medium
- Tashtyk culture (samples from Khakassia) - blond, brown hair; blue and green eyes; skin fair to medium
- Pazyryk culture - blond ("Ukok Plateau Princess"), brown, black ("Amazon of Ak-Alach") hair
- Karasuk culture - mixed eyes (light and dark, that is blue, green and brown)
- Mezocsat culture (in Hungary) - one sample - dark blond hair and brown eyes
>>75145612
So basically not pooing in the loo?
>>75153705
R1a people come from Pontic steppe. blue eyes come form west of black sea, blonde hair mutation accured number of times mostly in Europe too.
All studies I have seen say Yamna culture had light skin, where are you geting this studies from? Yaman was too big for there to be only dark or only light people.
Mongols having blonde hair seem very inaccurate too, all Asians who have blonde hair and were tested had European ancestry. unless every single blonde haired Asian got wiped out, they didn't have blonde hair.
>>75150686
>Indians have their local Abo blood
>worst representitive of anything Indo-European
They are still following the true Indo-Aryan polytheistic religion, while we have subjugated us literally to the religious Jew.
>>75146011
Idk, Ive had some people cut my hair who I was sure were African
>>75145475
Turkic (ural-altai for euro peasants) people are the source of white race, originating from asiatic steppes.
Only neanderthals lived in europe, the source of modern humans came from asia, sweeping and deleting inferior neanderthals.
Time will tell.
>>75145475
>the entire national socialist ideology depends on pigmentation of an ancient culture
lel wow ur so right and u btfo hitler xd
>>75147243
As white as Finnish winter
>>75150686
caucasus people aren't swarthy as a whole though
>>75147243
was this taken in Vantaa?
>>75155229
>>75153705
Objection: The sample sizes are too small to any scientists' liking.
>>75150686
>Protip: Indians have their local Abo blood
They don't. That admixture is present exclusively in some isolated tribal groups.
Most Indians are somewhere between Mongoloid and Caucasoid genetically, much closer to Caucasoid.
>>75149494
The Yamnaya were a mixed population, modelling things with only those three, while it's going to assess similarity, it doesn't tell you how high the input was. The fact that Basques pick up that much Yamnaya should be an alarm.
On the other hand pic related is based on more fundamental components. You can see clearly how Basques and Sardinians don't show the aqua green caucasus component which formed almost half of the ancestry of these steppe peoples, which is in accordance to them being isolated from these migrations.
>>75146011
NOOOOOOO!!!11!1!!
Blasphemy.
How? Just how could you say this?
First that is classified secret about "race" and
second he most peolpe here could not be nazi's THEY are all gramps or dead by now if whatever "we" could be a neo-nazi or a bit of right-wing but no no this post just no.
>>75153705
In the Indo-Aryan offspring all the difference is the skin colour. The facial structure remained the same in the end.
>>75154888
Turkic wolf myths makes me uncomfortable to be honest.
>>75146011
B-but shitskins!!!!!
>>75147167
HOW CAN /POL/ RECOVER
Daily reminder that if you are blonde/blue eyes you are a dirty Ughyur
