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Trump agreed to debate Sanders for charity and Bernie accepted. do you guys realize what the madman is doing?

Hes not gonna stump the dinosaurs as everyone is expects him to seeing as Bernie is no threat and has no mathematical chance of winning the nomination.

instead hes gonna agree with him on many issues, be very nice and respectful to him and set a good footing with his supporters. than when Bernie loses the nomination to hilldog, trump gets most of Bernie supporters.

the madman is a genius!
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This seems too obvious.

What does Bernie have to gain here? He's publicly towed the party line and said he'll endorse Hillary if she's the candidate. Either he's a total fool, or he's sabotaging her on purpose.
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>>75137193
Of course.
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Is Bernie Sanders stupid or spiteful? He realises that he has lost, and is sabotaging her campaign more effectively than any republican could do, there is no way she could take him as VP and he is alienating her from his voters.

Was he a Trump plant from the very start?
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>>75137974
>a marxist jew helps elect Trump

It all makes sense now
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>>75137315
>What does Bernie have to gain here?

Either Donald Trump sides with some of his policies or Clinton gets forced to adapt some of his policies.
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BERNIE SANDBAGGING CLINTON SO HARD BY DEBATING TRUMP
GODSPEED YOU CRAZY NEW YORK BASTARDS
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>>75138042
>a bumbling old Marxist jew accidentally propels Trump to the Presidency while the curb your enthusiasm theme plays
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>>75137974
bernie isn't a democrat though, and even though he and trump would disagree on the means by which the country needs to be run, the greater issue at had is hilary represents the status quo and trump represents radically reforming government.
Bernies endorsement will go to trump
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Genius. Pure genius.
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Wait are you telling me the Sanders Trump debate isn't a troll?
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>>75137193
TRUMP IS A FUCKING SUPER GENIUS

HE THINKS WITH THE POWER OF OVER 9000 SUNS
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Bernie was a trump plant all along.
He's crashing both parties with no survivors.
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>>75138274
Dude check bernies twitter its happening
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>>75138361
>bernie is a trump plant
>trump is a clinton plant
deepest lore
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>>75137315
Bernie just wants to fuck Hillary up.
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Yes I'm sure Bernie supporters don't see this coming at all, and won't feel deceived, insulted or manipulated.
Trump is better off slaying this old economically retarded weak socialist but we know Trump has to butter him up and coax him into running independent which is just another obvious desperate attempt to get the Democratic vote split.
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>>75137315
Bernie is playing fast and loose to try to get as much leverage on hillary as possible.

hillary will have to court bernie if she'll want to get his support or end up losing.
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Well that's it then.

The general is over.

Trump won.
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>>75138554
Trust in Trump, he hasn't made a mistake whole campaign.
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>>75137193
Well I can see either 3 things happening:

1: Trump blows Sanders the fuck out like he did with everyone else he's debated by bringing up their own record and using more personalized attacks. Policy wise he shouldn't have trouble finding a few holes in Sanders socialist policies

2: It becomes a shouting match between the two of them and then Sanders is declared the victory by the MSM and Trump appears at least stumped, but he can say it was all for good fun.

3: The debate could be civil and Trump could use it as an olive branch to millenials and detail a plan to get rid of Citizen's United, dedicated himself more to an anti-interventionalist foreign policy front, and agree on trade. Sanders fans would swarm to Trump on those merits and all Trump would have to say is education/healthcare will be "cheaper" instead of free and he stands his ground while pulling in more Sanders support.

I think option 3 is the most unlikely but what I'd like to see happen, option 2 is possible but I think it depends entirely on the moderators (if its FOX lol GG Bernie, if its CNN/MSNBC or god forbid TYT, then they'll throw so many gotchas at Trump that it would be impossible to come out unscathed), more than likely 1 will happen and it'll be entertaining to say the least.
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>>75138192
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JdfR6Jlh64
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It's also going to showcase the difference between Bernie supporters and Trump supporters, since it will be in CA there will be plenty of idiotic Mexicans smashing up police cars and shit
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>>75137315

Gives Bernie support against current liberals for going against their enemy
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>>75137315
Yeah, Bernie hates Hillary's guts but can't come out and say it outright with it being a subtle way of committing suicide, by doing this debate he gets to fuck her over while still towing the line.

Trump is really amazing, the guy was made for this. Truly remarkable times we are living in.
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>>75138654
There is one way this goes.

Trump's way.

And that is to be respectful of bernie and show his supporters unity and admiration.

The end.
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>>75138654

Trump has been reaching out to bernie supporters for the last 3 months, by agreeing with bernie on some things and saying how DEM is cheating him, and actually gained near 50% of his fan base that way

Him stumping the shit out of him would be the dumbest thing ever.
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3D CHESS ON A 2D BOARD
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This debate is destiny. It must happen.
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>>75138192
Is this real life?
Is this just fantasy?
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Trump has to butter up, be nice to bernie say how the democrats robbed him, say college will face the consequences if a kid is in debt, a position he has said before last week an that citizens united is corrupt or that money is corrupt. boom donald trump gets half of bernie supporters and wins in a landslide. the absolute madman, we are not worthy of such alpha
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>>75137315
>What does Bernie have to gain here?
He's being thrown to the wolves. Bernie will be a test run for Hillary, with the advantage that he can say whatever crazy shit they want to meta-test and not suffer any repercussions.
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>>75137193
SO MUCH FUCKING THIS. OMG KEK. PLEASE CONFIRM. TRUMP WILL DESTROY HILLARY WITH ONE EVENT.
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>>75137193
but will Bernie be respectful to him? If Bernie just talks about how bad Trump is, Trump's politeness isn't going to win over Bernie's supporters.
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>>75138761
Yeah Trump is going to go easy on Bernie. Hes going to focus on their similarities while contrasting their ideas about how to get it done. Meanwhile, Hillary will be trashed, the corrupt democrat system will be trashed, Trump will gain support from many Bern Victims when Hillary clinches the nomination. He will create anger over how Bernie got cheated, and the Bern Victims will be more warmed up about jumping on board the Trump train.
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the DNC probably wont let this happen as there are rules against debating outside of the party. It's more easy publicity for Trump that helps to divide the Democrats and get the not as crazy Bernie bots to his side in the general
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>>75138754
Trump has made mistakes during this campaign, he's admitted it himself. I have no doubt this was somehow planned for Trump and he intended to offer the debate at some point, but it could still very well backfire.

>>75138761
That 50% from WV you mean? That was a fluke, the WV Democrats became completely distraught over Clinton's comments on coal and voted for Sanders in protest because they couldn't vote for anyone else in a closed primary. Now at the moment if the election were held now I imagine it'd go something like 25% of the Sanders supporters support Clinton, 10% go to the green party (or libertarian even), 15-20% go to Trump, and the rest stay home or write in Bernie.

He can win over a larger part of the Bernie crowd, but I wouldn't say he's wooing his support to jump on his ship but rather he's trying to meme and independent run so the Dem's spine is shattered.
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>>75138983
>we are not worthy of such alpha
What a fucking time to be alive
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You know how everyone said Trump is a Hillary plant. I'm beginning to think it is the other way around. Holy Kek.
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>>75139047
>MG KEK. PLEASE CONFIRM.
see
>>75138588
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>>75139047
>>75139147
>47 twice
kek confirmed for me.
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>>75137193
>>75138314

I gave this as an idea a couple of month ago and every burger was like hurr durr bulgar can't into politics , gonna dump my post
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Trump/Sanders ticket fucking when?

That would be suicide watch for Shillary
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>>75139233
bulgar can't into politics, please dump.
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>>75139240
She might actually use her husband's exploding face to kill herself.
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>>75139240
Never, fuck off. They are too different.
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>>75139065
I can't imagine Bernie not going full "he's a facist/racist" on Trump it just doesn't seem in his reptoire, other than Clinton, Trump is everything Sanders campaign is built against. The only reason he hasn't gone full geriatric tirade during a debate with Clinton is because he doesn't want to be called a sexist and he still sucks Democrat cocks.
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>>75137315
If Bernie declines everyone will know he didn't want to donate. That make him look like a major Bitch. He is cornered.
>Yeah, Bernie hates Hillary's guts
Bernie is just another kike. He does not hate Hillary.
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>>75138983
When Bernie starts talking about helping the working class, he'll start talking about other ways to help them too. He won't ever get a fraction of the liberal vote, but he can sure as fuck sweep the working class vote away from Hillary.
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>tfw all the debate questions are attacks on Hillary
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>>75137193
Is everyone retarded? Trump obviously wasn't serious when he said hes debate Kimmel. Sanders tweet was just a knee-jerk gotcha. Theres not going to be a debate.
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whoever does the vote counting decides the election.

look what happened in Austria

i hope you are all ready for the first woman POTUS
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>>75138983
>>75137193
HE IS A LITERAL GENIUS


MASTERMIND
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10/10 hands down
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>>75139393
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>>75139065
Bernie wouldn't have the balls to not be respectful to a YUGE man like The Don.
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>>75137315
>>75138720
toeing not towing
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>>75139351
Didn't Bernie want to do a debate with Hillary on Fox? If this one's on Fox you can expect every question to be that way.
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>>75137315
1: Show he has stones
2: Show he can stand against Trump on the debate stage (worry for DNC with Hillalry)
3: Show his policies are better than Trump


The problem for him is that he's the only one who has to prove any of that. He'll be serious and waggling his finger. Trump will be more relaxed. Aesthetically it will be an angry old hunchbacked white guy waving his finger, vs a healthy orange jovial chubby man with a winning grin.

Trump can just play nice for most of the debate. It helps that they do agree on some fundamentals. He can praise Bernies character and intentions. He can be a nice guy.

If Sanders gets too uppity Trump can just pull the "Why aren't you like this against Hillary?" Card.

Tump will almost definitely show his much more compassionate side here. Broadcast more loudly how he wants to reform the immigration system to make it easier. Bring up his women's health thoughts. Talk about meritocracy. Talk about how universities ARE ripping students off (while differing vastly on the solution and analysis).

Even if Sanders 'wins' the debate he doesn't really gain anything as long as Trump doesn't take any bait, doesn't swear, and stays calm and relaxed. Hell, Sanders winning helps trump because it causes more Drama with the democrats. Trump just needs to show he has pivoted from the hardline angry candidate, to a more relaxed presidential one.
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>>75139393
>whoever does the vote counting decides the election.

nigga its not 1 guy... contrary to popular tinfoil hat beleife, its very hard to rig an election. if it wasn't, trump wouldn't be here. and trust me, they tried
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>>75139642
>1: Show he has stones
>2: Show he can stand against Trump on the debate stage (worry for DNC with Hillalry)
>3: Show his policies are better than Trump

too bad he still can't get 96.6% of the remaining delegates lmao..
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>Hillary didn't want to debate Bernie because of his tone
>even though they were supposed to have one yet she opted out
>Trump raises money for charity
>Bernie gets more exposure
>causing him to beat Hillary in CA
>trump gets more exposure
>Hillary HQ itsfinedog.jpg
>making her look weak
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>>75139296
Doing this is pretty much admitting defeat to The Don. The media has accused him of everything under the sun and he just shrugs it off.

>If you call your enemies racist, they win.
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kinda sad tbqh, I wanted to see Trump stump bernie panders with a force never seen before.
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>>75138627
Except when he called Mexican Americans rapists
Or when he insulted veterans and a war hero
Or when he mocked the disabled
Or when he spoke out for "transgender rights"
Or when he lost the respect of our allies

Yeah no mistakes alright
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>>75139256
Well fug, I deleted the txt files , thread number was >>67654663 , but its 404 now.

Basically I gave an idea for joint Bernie/Trump rally/debate, because it would be a good idea for multiple reasons
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>>75139393
The house is red friend.
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>>75139806

yeah, saying those things were mistakes and definitely didn't buy him millions of dollars of free advertisement, propelling him above 16 candidates to seize the nomination, not at all.
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>>75137315
He gets the chance to make Hillary look weak and a stage to make the case that he is the only one who can beat Trump.
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>>75139670
OH REALY!?!?!? i thought 1 guy counted all the votes! you are really a stupid fuck

kid doesn't remember Al Gore losing Florida despite having more votes
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>>75137315
Using Trump's coverage to talk shit about Hillary.
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>>75139811

A just as I said that I found it :

MY IDEA FOR A JOINT TRUMP/SANDERS RALLY

Okay /pol/ , I know it sounds crazy, but hear me out on this one. In my opinion, this could be a golden opportunity for the media and establishment to be absolutely BTFO.

Here is my basic vision of how it may be orgnanized/structured, basically it is going to be a joint rally which opens a few options:
> It will held in a state where both of them will campaign.
> It has a standard rally format, so both candidates are on the stage together and just state their opinions/policies/talking points on something. This will be done without them interrupting each other.
For example:
Announcer/moderator/Themselves (depending whether or not they choose to have a moderator - which would be the most likely thing) - Lets talk about X
Trump - This my opinion on X etc.
Sanders _ This my opinion on X etc.
Announcer/moderator/Themselves - Moving on to Y.
> If there is a moderator, they may have 1 or 2 replies to eachother's policies/talking points
> The crowd will could be handled in a couple of ways :
a) Everyone is in the same area/section (Trump supporters, Bernie supporters, undecided)
b) There are 2 sections - one for Trump Supporters and one for Bernie
c) There are 3 sections - One for people who wish to come together (section of Bernie and Trump fans) , and two other sections exclusively for one of the parties
In my opinion a) or c) would be most ideal, since it will be the most diplomatic way of "coming together".

Here is how it is roughly going to go down :
>starting segment where they say a few good words about eachother, explain what the event is about. (and also the possible charity I will mention later)
>Second segment which is devoted to media dishonesty - sharing their experience, giving examples etc.
>Third segment is the "sort of debate, sort of rally" I mentioned before.
>Final segment is closing statements, shaking hands etc.
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>>75138192

holy shit someone needs to put that music to a montage of Greatest Trump Moments and Greatest Bernie Busts
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>>75139949

Other addons/possibilities for the event:
>It is non-profit and the profits go to charities , which Sanders and Trump will choose
>Ultimate nice guy move : Donald Trump pays for the whole event to be organized.

Reasons why it would be great :
>It will show Trump as an amazing uniter/diplomat/presidential figure
>It will be an oportunity for both of them to bash the media and dispel myths about eachother (of course, Trump mainly benefits from this and Bernie probably wont make it anyway)
>It will gather even more support for candidates that aren't paid for and taken care of by super PACs.
>Donald Trump will probably come out on top if this happens because :
a) Bernie agrees to it - Donald Trump wins , because it will make his image as a diplomat/problem solver/deal maker even brighter.
b) Bernie doesn't agree to it - Donald Trump wins again for wanting to be diplomatical and settle the whole Chicago riots thing, Bernie looks bad.
>It will be blow to Hillary, but it probably won't change the fact that it will most likely be a Hillary-Trump race, here is why it is good :
1.) An early heavy blow to Hilarry, before Trump and Hillary even start going at eachother. So he looks good, while being positive, while also stumping her.
2.) Bernie supporters have a better opionion of Trump, which means more votes for him, if it is a Trump-Clinton race.

TL;DR :

>So basically Trump gains more voters, stumps Hillary and Cruz , makes a great image for himself.

>TRUMP WILL LITERALLY BE AMERICAN JESUS AND UNITE THE VOTERS OF BOTH PARTIES (wishful thinking, but possible)
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>>75139806

he thinks thous were mistakes lmao.
they were all planned.

here is an in debt explanation of the trump mentality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LR6EA91zLo
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>yfw Sanders and Trump both turn and bash Hillary the entire time
>yfw at the end of it all they realize their common policies and walk off the stage as bros
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>>75139837
whoa you seem really wise and mysterious

tell me more great oracle
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>>75137315
fuck. God-emperor once again I must apologize for doubting you.
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>>75137193
Bernie fans and Trump fans in the same auditorium? This should be good.
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>>75139806

Any one of those would have sank anyone else from ever holding office again. Aside from some older feminists who think having a woman as opposed to a man in the White House will change anything, no one is really pumped for Hillary. If you protest at a Hillary event, you'll be thrown out by her security. If you protest at a Trump event, his security will save your ass from a boot party.
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>>75140060

as in, the house, as opposed to our senate, is red, as in republican
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>>75138983

the man is a fucking mastermind, we are not worthy to vote for him. I would live the rest of my life picking cotton in the fields 18 hours a day if it meant I got to shake his hand once
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>>75140097
>yfw they all get along when they realize what they have in common
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>>75137193
But what happens when Bernie spends the entire 2 hours calling Trump names like "racist" and "sexist" and "privliged"?

Is Trump going to agree with that to get the youth on his side?
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>>75137193

This is an amazing Presidential race, one of if not the most spectacular in US history.

I used to be worried that Trump was a globalist plant, but after all this shit, I'm convinced he either never was or he broke free once he realized he could win without and against the neocons.

This is his chance to court the anti-establishment Left, and make the case that any outsider is better than any Establishment candidate.

I'd wish trump luck, but he obviously doesn't need it. Nigger's playing chess when his opponents haven't gotten past checkers.
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>>75140102
still not a supermajority so i don't see why that makes any difference
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I thought it was against the rules until the general election for two members of the opposite party to debate?
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>Sander's entire life is whining about the socialist caricature of rich men
>has to actually face a rich man for the first time and not just have some group of faggy jew hippies cheering you on
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Agreeing with Bernie could cause more harm than good.
He might lose a lot of support from republicans
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Trump is going to absolutely annihilate that beta commie cuck faggot.

It's going to be the greatest debate of all time, before Trump debates Hillary of course.
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>>75138425
>Implying both Bernie and Hillary arent Trump plants.
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>>75138627
He as actually made a few. He even admits he shouldn't have said McCain wasn't a war hero. And the the 2 corinthian thing.
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>>75139806
He said that illegal immigrants pour across the border and many illegal immigrants are rapists and drug dealers, which is an objective fact.

He insulted McCain.

He mocked an idiot for acting like one. He just so happened to have retard hands.

Nobody gives a fuck about who goes to what bathroom. Let the owner of the building decide.

Europoverties being cucks impedes us in no way. A Trump presidency will strengthen our relationship with the only other relevant countries -- Russia and China.
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>>75138712
R A R E
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>>75140097
The rowdy bernouts are bankrolled by Soros.
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>>75140005
HIGH IQ
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>>75139363
Good to see there are still some people on /pol/ are mentally over the age of 18.
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>>75140254
Any answer??
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>>75139949

a fine idea but bernie could never go for it
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>>75140494

fucking this

he is a mastermind he was born to do this shit

let's MAGA in November folks
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>>75138666
>and Jim Webb

Thanks for the kek, Lucifer.
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>>75140536
Something similar is going to happen http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/26/trump-i-ll-debate-bernie-sanders-for-a-price.html
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>>75138666
>>75140561
This
oh man
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>>75137315
either:

1. he has absolutely no idea what is going on and just wants to debate for the hell of it

2. he thinks he might be able to get trump to "change his mind" on something

i'm leaning towards 1 atm. remember: this is a 74 year old man that wants to convert america to socialism.

>>75137193
>sanders supporters watch this
>trump turns out to not be satan
>they still think sanders won
>DNC rolls around
>sanders loses, clinton gets nominated
>they remember their new plan B, donald trump

he. can't. lose.
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>>75137193

I would rather that instead of a debate, Bernie and Trump sit down and discuss the problems with the electoral system and some of the differences in their platforms. The debate format we have sucks, it's only fit for soundbites and regurgitated speeches, I would prefer for Trump and Bernie to have an actual, honest conversation.
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>>75140527

I don't think there are any rules about that, and if there are, then it's just party rules and not federal ones. The government doesn't have anything to say about the debate format as far as I know.
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>>75140254
The Dems have a rule against it but I'm not sure about the Republicans. Bernout wasn't going to get the nomination anyway so it doesn't matter.
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yfw trump offers bernie VP slot.

yfw it was a globalist scheme the entire time to bring about world government, and they tricked the dumbest section of the population (unemployed youth) with the most amazing meme ad campaigns in the history of the world.

Obama was a dry run, Trump/Sanders is the live round.

yfw you love a million miles away and it wont affect you.

comfy :)
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>>75140170
you shouldn't try this sell until after he lost the nomination
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>>75141465
>tfw stingrays can't kill you

comfy :)
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>>75139806
>mistakes

The only real mistake he has made was his abortion comments. Everything else was left vague enough to get away with, it was all free publicity. The media took the bait every time. If they were all mistakes why didn't any of them hurt him?
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>>75138666
>and jim webb

I kek'd
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>>75139806

>Except when he called Mexican Americans rapists
He didn't, and he was right; there are a hugely disproportionate number of rapists and childmolesters among those illegals coming along the border
>Or when he insulted veterans and a war hero
He didn't insult veterans and John McCain did nothing heroic except get captured tbqh
>Or when he mocked the disabled
He didn't
>Or when he spoke out for "transgender rights"
Source?
>Or when he lost the respect of our allies
The kind of people who get their panties in abunch over Trump are the kind of people we need to tell to fuck off. Europe deserves a better class of leader. If every single mainstream leftist European leader liked Trump, I'd be instinctively mistrustful of him. Because they all hate him, I like Trump more.
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>>75139806
>Except when he called Mexican Americans rapists
illegals are rapists as per statics tho

>Or when he insulted veterans and a war hero
miccain is a traitor to the country and everyone hates him
trump raised 6 million burger dollars for vets some time after that

>Or when he mocked the disabled
he didn't even know the guy was disabled but whatever, you can have that one if you really want it

>Or when he spoke out for "transgender rights"
by saying caitlyn jenner can use any bathroom (s)he wants on his property and that all of those kinds of decisions have to do with states rights?

>Or when he lost the respect of our allies
who? who cares about countries that are letting themselves get ravaged by muslims?
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>>75137193
maximus kekus
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>>75141202
Too rational to put on tv = wont happen in usa
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