My country is going to the shitter
>the economy is bad
>job security is a joke
>the retirement wages are crazy poor
>most of the important services are in private hands
>the political system is still divided even after Pinochet regime ended 26 years ago.
should i fear for the future?
>>75078249
>should i fear for the future?
yes , regardless of where you live
>>75078249
I'm poor and my life isn't bad, anon. You're exaggerating
>>75078249
Still don't get why you feel such empathy to your own country. All economic indicators show you have been top performer in all Latin America ever since Pinochet.
Do you actually want to be socialist shithole like Venezuela?
Why would people in texas care about chile?
>>75078857
I think his fears are justified, Chile is becoming a socialist progressive country more and more. I'm ready to fuck some shit up tho if the situation is unsustainable
>>75078844
1.are you getting money from the government?
2:-think long term
>>75078857
quite the opposite
>>75078249
>>most of the important services are in private hands
How's that bad? You want to copy Venezuela instead?
Your country is going down the shitter because you elected a socialist and your universities are full of marxists. You are literally ruining Pinochet's and Piñera´s legacies.
>>75079100
Yea, kinda. I'm a student and I get "food stamps" to lunch daily (30 lucas per month). You have to consider that the situation isn't better abroad
could be worse bro
>>75079272
private companies don't invest shit. there is parts of the country that don't have electricity. they don't invest in renewable sources, they could have the atacama desert filled with solar panels, have an extensive plan of lithium based products but no, let's build a fucking dam in the Patagonia
>>75078249
Don't feel bad. At least you're white.
>>75079473
>30 lucas
el peruANO
>>75079272
this , Based Piñera was the best thing that ever happened to this god forgotten strip of land , in the last 30 years
>>75078249
C'mon texas, it aint so bad
>>75079693
yeah. pale is a better definition
>>75079757
at least the dollar was low during those years
>>75079648
>He fell for the Solar Energy meme
>>75079648
I think that the energetic issue is fault of Nueva Mayoria...
>>75080017
if only we could build nuclear power plants but no
AT LEAST ONE 7+ RICHTER EAR QUAKE EVERY 50 YEARS
>>75079084
Whole world is moving that way I suppose.
However, most if you look at most of OPs points:
>job security is a joke
>the retirement wages are crazy poor
>most of the important services are in private hands
It suggests that he wants to move towards socialism. Is it predominant belief in Chile? Also why most of Chileans are so hostile towards to Pinochet. His regime has killed approximately 3000 people according to wiki, that's way less than most of 70s and 80s dictators in Latin America.
Well....
You can always enlist!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmZGuPfGNrY
>>75078249
Why is my favourite sausage shaped neighbour so desperate for attention? Every day I find self hating cucks making threads waiting for people to hug them and tell them it's not that bad.
>>75080237
Nuclear energy? I don't know... Chile should take advantage of its big coast (tidal energy)
>>75080670
I think it's just 1 cuck who makes this thread daily
>>75080017
not really, a lack of a real energy policy dates back to Pinochet. Puting all the egg in the oil (mostly foreign) Basket
>>75080323
Pinochet is supported by 1/3 of the nation (1/3 at least)
>>75080237
can you trust a chilean nuclear agency? i don't
Merge Chile with Argentina and Uruguay and let Russia help manage your country
>>75080323
the retirement wages are low because of the high cost of living and studying , it makes people fall in debt on their 20's and continue paying for it at their 60's.
Our water , electricity and natural gas companies are also part of huge transnational groups that abuse certain laws
> Also why most of Chileans are so hostile towards to Pinochet?
There are different reasons , mine is that most people , the media and history books try to hide the fact that the country was in poor shape BEFORE Pinochet took over , they also never mention the possitive things that came out of it
Muh DD:HH ( detained persons that never came back , most of them where buried under concrete buildings )
Oh and also : Blame America
>>75080323
I would not say its predominant. Chile is still very conservative and christian. In universities, however, we are bombed with liberal propaganda (I was one of them until I had to work)
Now, half the country loves Pinochet and the other half hates him, because he actually killed fellow citizens and burned down Chilean patrimony. In general, he did a lot of good things and also a lot of bad things. And both prevailed.
The college socialists and commies focus only on his bad actions and they forget that thanks to his implementation of our economic system are are able to study.
>>75078643
Based weon
>>75080323
is short sighted to reduce this as socialist vs private sector.
Pinochet dictorship dismantled the state, selling it parts a very low price puting huge bussinesses in the hands of a few people that care only for the bottom line.
a full state run country isn't the answer either.
>>75080972
Wont happen , even though it could be beneficial
>>75080670
Remember your shitty election. There were threads every hour. Don't be so hypocrite. Everbody knows you are the arrogant and attention whores.
>>75078249
I mean, look at your shape
You're doomed as it stands, whenever shit hits the fan any of your eastern borders can make a short trek across the mountains to the ocean and bam your country is cut in half
Good luck fellow Texan
>>75078249
Look on the bright side, at least you're not overflowing with muslim and negroid rapefugees everyday.
>>75080670
not really?
don't you have go beg for money for the next nation shattering financial crisis that is brewing there?
>>75080918
But nobody wanted to invest in a nation under a dictatorship (there were almost no copper transnationals in Pinochet times). Trust me, Nueva Mayoria owns main fault (BTW are you a Bachelet's supporter?)
>>75081421
RARE
A
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>>75078985
Uh, Bill Dance. Tons of sea bass fishermen in Texas.
>>75081529
You are clearly overreacting with that Argie, just calm the fuck down...
And you make this thread almost daily, you are kinda cuck, wn...
>>75081562
no. i voted for Marco
>>75081828
different guy i guess. i haven't been to 4chan in like a week
>>75081346
>Comparing and election (/pol/ related topic) to the Daily attention begging threads
Don't go full retarded on me. It's always the same formula
>Pic of Chile
>Some insult
At least post this shit on /int/
>>75081829
MEO? a fuckin Nueva Mayoria's puppet LOL
>>75079084
> Be Chile.
> Useless piece of land
> No natural resources
> No intellectual or cultural resources
> Adopt free market ideas and capitalism
> Prosper economically and culturally
> Regress towards Socialism
WHY AND HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN REPEATEDLY???!!
WHY Do nations turn on the ideas that made them great in the first place??
someone explain this fucking nonsense to me. It happens everywhere.
>>75082089
*concertación. Communists mean shit in the power structure
>>75082345
no natural resources?
can you at least try to troll?
>>75081955
well i'm the generation of chileans who didn't run to suck argentina cock every chance they got
>>75078249
Wow I did not know Texas was THIS bad.
>>75082345
You tell me Ahmed. At least we are fucked by ourselves.
>no natural resources
>>75082535
Who would... Argies are kinda Jews. Anyway, you should leave /pol/, you are too dumb for this board, nigga
>>75082841
i'm way smarter than most. i'm just killing time while a video is rendering
>>75082345
Most of Copper Electrometallurgy has been developed in this country, Harry
>>75081264
Is it short sighted?
I mean, I can agree you on privatization, it was a huge in Lithuania too (or any other Soviet bloc country for that matter). However it just shows that government is incapable of distributing wealth.
Everywhere in the world people care only about bottom line, that's why capitalism prevails. It utilizes our self interest.
If bottom-up economic approach was a bad thing, how come your economy is doing so well compared to that of your more statist neighbors?
>>75083056
Harry is kill
ONly Ahmed is left
Pero somo lo campiones de america
>>75082996
>Smart
>Voting for MEO
You are a disgrace...
>>75082841
>kinda
>>75083195
it was just handed by a dictatorship to conservatives companies that supported this regime. plan and simple
>>75083296
what else should i voted for? Crazy Matthei?
>>75079757
you stupid brainwashed commie. Everything in Chile is 300% from the free market.
>>75078249
Men are there parts in the world were not everything is going to shit?
>>75083535
>Not voting for Count Dooku.
>>75083818
at least his daughter is hot
>>75083535
At least she doesn't pretend to be something she isn't
MEO lol... Look: Your Daddy's bitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98CVVOR8oUw
You are a disgrace, dude...
>>75083946
hey bro. sorry i hit a nerve in your far right body,
at least you're a rich conservative? or just a "facho pobre"
Dont forget reggaeton and the nigger mestizo population that is 95% of the country
>>75084492
in Santiago maybe
>>75081829
>actually trusting MEO
keek
>>75084669
in the north too
Why are there so many Chileans on this place?
>>75078249
revive pinochet
>>75078249
Import more Brolivians :^)
>>75084979
OP is the typical idiot who thinks of himself as a smart guy LOL
Yea, MEO...
haha op, you dont lived in russia. This country really shit
>>75083460
And our government gave away most of capital equipment and land to former kholkhoz bosses. It's not an argument against private markets though.
So you need more government because whenever it does something, it does it poorly?
>>75085631
we're worse
>>75078249
quit being brown and the problem will be solved
>>75078249
How to get texas flag?
>>75078249
chili is good with cornbread, we'll pray for you texans!
I'm thinking about going to Chile to get my doctorate in Astronomy.
Is this a bad idea?
How shithole is your country?
How's that Zeka treating you?
>>75088468
What institution?
>>75078249
You're still waaaay better than you neighbours, so stop complaining.
>>75088926
Looking primarily at the University of Chile for their Cosmology group, and the Pontifical Catholic University of Chile.
I've emailed some faculty and they seem very friendly, and took the time to answer all my questions, even referring me to other Doctors and their research, left a really good impression with me.
>>75078249
Is it really so bad in Chile? Many people in Poland tout it as an example of economic miracle and proof Pinochet wuz a gud boi.
>>75089280
thats our elite, average chileans are dumb savage subhumans
>Chile thread
>Remembering that Chilean drawfag we had earlier
Now I'm all nostalgic and shit.
You're a nice country Chile
>>75078249
poor people man hahaahh
>>75078249
Bueno almenos no eres de memezuela.
>>75080972
>and let Russia help manage your country
Kek. Russia sucks at managing crap.
it's not that bad we are going to elect based Piñera again
That's what you get for living in a country with only 2 dimensions faggot.
>>75078249
Man I'm from Poland and I wish we would have somebody like Pinochet back in 1989 and all the motherfucking commie soviet puppet murderers would get what they deserve - a fucking bullet to the forehead.
But nobody like this showed up. Instead, in 1989 we had the communist "opposition" setting a deal with communists. This deal created a system of division of power. The ex-commies were guaranteed huge state pensions and huge influence over the media and political powers. This not only kept them from getting justice but also they did not have to do anything for the rest of their lives while people who sacritficed everything fighting against them for the feedom and independence of Poland are forced to die like cockroaches.
The system of opposition leaders and ex-commies rules Poland untill today, after 26 years of the supposed "fall" of communism. That is why our political scene and people who are in power did not change at all for 26 years, which is why Poland is shit. The commies will never pay for their crimes and they will have a nice painless death and even probably a state funeral. Luckly the system starts to fall now, simply because people who created it and held power ower it are dying of old age and the new non-brainwashed generation sees what was going on for past 26 years.
>>75089280
Your best option here in Chile clearly is University of Chile, it is hard as hell to get in and keep up though. I study mining engineering in University of Chile (finishing it) and I know its Departament of Astronomy (a lot of foreigners). It's a good option but you'll have to study A LOT if you take it. Pic related (The Astronomy nerds)
>>75078249
Too much reggaeton, I guess
>>75078249
>Libertarianism works
Kek
http://dissidentvoice.org/2014/12/chiles-plantation-economy/
>>75079084
>>75082345
>Chile becomes a shithole due to capitalism
>Blame socialism
Every single time.
>>75090901
Lol author of this bullshit does not know jack shit about the free market if he thinks that Milton Fridman created it first.
>>75091005
Chile a shithole? Comparing to other latin america countries Chile is doing great. Mostly because of capitalism and Pinochet's policies.
>we'll get flooded by chileans
>more than we already are
>>75081224
jaja te la mamas
>>75078249
You're now knowing how social democracy is wonderful.
It will improve your country just like it did with ours.
>>75090728
>it is hard as hell to get in
top kek
>>75091241
>Chile a shithole? Comparing to other latin america countries Chile is doing great.
“Chile is the OECD country with the greatest difference between the rich and poor,” as well as the 4th poorest country of the 34 member states."
>You don't understand! Chile is fucking great! Libertarian tabloids told me so!
Go fucking move there then. I mean this is coming from a Greek. You literally elected communists and they took off with your money.
>>75090689
>be Polish
>complain about corruption and criminality
>move to Greece
Jesus, that's some bad luck right there.
>>75091244
It's part of the past (Allende times). Look at the present years, practically no chilean migration to Argentina but a lot of Argies have arrived to Chile (Argie colony here is BIG). Look at the numbers...
>>75091560
An Astronomy PhD in University of Chile? easy? Yea, sure dude
>>75091918
>730 points
>hard
maybe if you are retarded
>>75088468
https://andreinchile.com/2010/08/27/chileans/
blog from a Brit living in Chile , its from 2012 but still
>>75078249
You can even make your own food you shitstink culeado malpardio anda roba comida a otros paises.
>>75092092
We are not talking about a bachelor's degree... We are talking about getting selected for a PhD
>>75078249
Fuck you texas
>>75083285
De una copa comprada, imaginaria como su aguardiente que lo llaman "pisco"
>>75092372
Maybe I am retarded
>>75091562
>Chile is the OECD country with the greatest difference between the rich and poor,
How does it make Chile poor? The fact that someone is rich doesn't make you poor.
>as well as the 4th poorest country of the 34 member states.
Still an economic paradise when compared to Bolivia, Peru, venezuela and most of other latin american countries.
>>75084492
This culiao knows whats up.
>>75092646
>The fact that someone is rich doesn't make you poor.
Why does this lie continue?
>Hurr income inequality dun mean nuffin!
Alright, that's enough out of you today. Pay debts.
>>75092563
Aweonao iluso, gran parte de las copas son compradas...
>>75078249
Lol, the Chilean flag is like a low quality american flag.
>>75092661
>That peruvian... a chilean
Yea, no
>>75091690
Nah man, I'm here only temporarily, and I didn't choose to come here. I still have a house in Polandia and I will live there.
>>75091562
Only other OECD country in the region is Mexico, and I am sure as heck that Chile is doing better than it.
Your have said nothing of value to deny that it has one of the highest gdp per capita and hdi indexes in Latin america.
You are edgy communist sperglord for sole reason of being edgy communist sperglord.
If you have any reasonable argument to deny that Milton Friedman's ideas were wrong or failure, prove it.
>>75079732
Peru plz go away
>>75090728
>>75090728
Ah thanks man, I have a lot of research and good letters, so I hope those will help me get in.
Good luck with your degree, I've heard that Mining Engineering is a difficult but rewarding field.
>>75092749
Man, I'm not even Greek. I'm not a Greek citizen. I am here temporarly. So fuck off.
>Hurr income inequality dun mean nuffin!
Ok explain to me then how does the fact that somebody is rich make you poor. I'm giving you a space to make an actual argument, if you know the answer to this question then you will answer it. If you don't, then you're just another brainwashed ultra liberal retard form the occupy movement and I won't waste time throwing shit at you like it's 4th grade.
>>75078249
well. your country helped out those criminals called honecker. so it's just justice
>>75092871
^Esto
Soccer is a shit.
A shit
I got cucked by a Chilean so I would gladly nuke your shitty mountainous insignificant country out of existence in revenge. I am become Beady, destroyer of genes.
>>75079272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMes353uc-Y
Mrs Malta is your life a potato?
>>75082345
Everywhere, people are becoming more and more leftist. I’ve been researching a biological cause to this. I know that leftism entails empathy towards all humans (and especially the ones in a bad situation, i.e. blacks and women), a desire for forced equality and authoritarianism. Obedience to (leftist) authority. A more feminine brain.
Classical liberals were Libertarians. Then they split in the mid/late 20th century. It is important to point out that while only around 20% of libertarians are women (probably less), modern liberalism is evenly split between the sexes.
Testosterone has been declining through the decades…
https://www.endocrine.org/news-room/press-release-archives/2006/testosterone_lvls_in_men_decline
Someone needs to do something.
>muh pinochet
>"40% poverty rates are so based! xd"
>>75093736
WE DOTA NOW right
Fellow Peruvian?
>>75094407
^This also
Dota once
you never go back
pinochet did nothing wrong weon
>>75094407
>>75094665
Trabajen mierdas en ves de vivir como neets jugando dota2 todo el dia
>>75078249
>most of the important services are in private hands
If you think this is a bad thing, you're the one who belongs in the shitter pal. Government pensions the world over are completely cashed out because politicians have even less incentive than bosses to pay out and not simply raid the cookie jar.
>>75078249
God yes! Hurry up and die butthurt fucks.
>>75093857
Everywhere except countries that actually expierienced leftism, like eastern block countries for example. In Poland the youth is mostly either right wing nationalist leaning towards the free market or just clasical liberals/libertarians.
am i on nido?
why is chile going to the shitter?
every time i've talked to or read my chilean cousin's facebook it's always" i hate the government".....you should try and get educated in fields that have job growth...
>>75095469
>politicians have even less incentive than bosses to pay out
It's not a matter of incentives, it's a matter of competition and simple economics.
>tfw we have the resources to start our own industries and get an economy that doesnt live or die by copper.
>tfw not even socialist goverments want to invest in anything other than resource extracting and exporting.
FeelsUnderdevelopedMan
>>75094801
>Peru
>NEETs
>>75096094
Industrialization train took off long time ago.
Internet related services and support are the thing
Its simple based Weons, we kill the bachelet and do not excuse "family problems" that are the sources of her excuses.
Also get those goddamed Jews out of Patagonia. I want to go back to a free happy flitae free chile
>>75096719
Don't create martyrs
Chile is the best place to live but it's doing fucking great compared to the other local shitholes
don't turn it into a rhodesia 2.0
>>75096637
It's still a thing, as long as we cant abandon this physical world, at least
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newly_industrialized_country
>>75078249
Best South American country and better then Canada, even if you crash into a fucking pit I will still love you.
>>75080972
>Tell niggers in our countries to support this just because we would probably beat the shit outta everybody in the world cup.
>Everyone in the country agrees.
Anon, you're a genious
>Socialism
Leftists should be gassed
>>75081313
Oh, the things our planes could do together..
Lets laught at this idiots.
>vote communists
>always
>proceed to complain about the gobernment
>repeat
Chanchelet was a mistake. Piñera was the best thing that happened. And believe me, this won't change. You don't seem to understand how bad it is and you sell yourselves with promises of a united South america, bonos and free shit.
t.Chilean inmigrant.
Lets talk about the things that Chile does bad.
>people
Sheep. It's a nice word to describe it. Any party says something about el golpe will get votes. Period. When Bachelet was runing for presidente the first time, people voted just because "we first in South murica xd"
Thats about it. People are completely traumatized about el golpe that they always vote communists. Other problems are cultural but not really just Chile all of the Americas.
Keep complaining in the internet. You probably are one of those idiots that go to protests and break everything and then say "le gobernment is reasponsable for my actions".
You guys voted for Bachelet TWICE, now deal with it. Next time go vote for real you dumbasses.
>>75098530
and mestizos too
all of them
Sorry. I'm fucking sad that my motherland is being torneo appart by communists and these faggots probably didn't even vote.
>>75078249
Why do you reelected Bachelet?
>>75091562
But OECD member countries are all rich countries to begin with.
>>75100391
>A public health book from the University of Chile states that 64% of the population is of Caucasian origin; Mestizos with an average 72% Caucasian ancestry and 28% Native American ancestry are estimated to amount a total of 30%, while Native Americans (Amerindians) comprise the remaining 5%.[12] A genetic study by the same university showed that the average Chilean's genes are 64% Caucasian and 35% Amerindian.
Are you even Chilean? Every Chilean I've met identifies as Mestizo and Chile is pretty much genetically homogeneous. It's also laughable in Chile if you're Chilean and identify as European/white.
>>75078249
As a fellow chilean, allow me to comment
>>the economy is bad
There is no such thing as a good economy when your economy is completely relient on exporting raw materials, which you later buy back as processed goods. The copper crisis has been coming for decades because our leaders feel more comfy sticking to what works than trying to invest in the future, not to mention that copper is nationalized and the government owning ANY company or resource is always a bad thing because of gross incompetence and corruption.
>>job security is a joke
There is no such thing as job security unless you are a street sweeper, since there will always be streets and trash. Everyone is, and should be, at risk of losing their job, specially if they underperform. The only exception seem to be public servants that get promoted not on merit or efficiency, but in how long they have worked in their post, which means we promote lazy-as-fuck people while crushing the souls of people who actually want to work.
>>the retirement wages are crazy poor
I'll give you that. Moreover, elderly people STILL have to pay a % of their pension for future pensions. I just can't word how retarded this sounds.
>>most of the important services are in private hands
Thanks God for that. If you don't get why that's a good thing, I bet you are a fucking commie.
>>the political system is still divided even after Pinochet regime ended 26 years ago.
Thanks God for that too! What, you really want a 1 party government like in china or north korea? get the fuck outta here, commie!
>>75079272
>Your country is going down the shitter because you elected a socialist and your universities are full of marxists. You are literally ruining Pinochet's and Piñera´s legacies.
I like you, sir. You are a scholar and a gentleman.
That being said, I only agree on the Pinochet legacy as far as economy goes.
>>75102798
Ugh I remember having an amerindian roomate in college that one day just suddenly shaved his head, got a swastika tattoo and declared himself nazi.
He was short, fat, had a thick nose, deep brown skin, and was more like an olive than a man... yet he wasn't alone. I am STILL surprised now, 20 years later, when I find people like him playing nazi.
I'm 25% chinese, 25% italian, 25% spaniard and 25% amerindian, btw. I think of myself as mestizo and wouldnt trust anyone who declared himself "arian"
