Is he a success or no? Elizabeth Warren essentially said he's a failure:
>But Warren also criticized Trump for being a "loser," taunting him for his "failed businesses" and accusing him of being "so bad at business."
>"Trump seems to know he's a loser," she said. "His embarrassing insecurities are on parade: petty bullying, attacks on women, cheap racism, and flagrant narcissism."
Elizabeth Warren is a shriveled incompetent liar who cant even produce entertaining bantz
yaaaaawn. bring back jeb
>>74896345
Before he ran for president no one would ever claim he was bad at business, no one, he was The businessman to people. This bullshit about him being bad a business popped up because libfags are salty that he doesnt follow the herd
>Blew 25 mil on a presidential campaign where he had no real intentions of winning until he realize the republican candidates were actually retarded.
I would say success.
>>74896345
>Is he a success or no?
No. He made 10 billion dollars by being shit at business.
>turn 1 million dollars into 20 billion
>B-But his daddy gave him the first million
>B-But trump steaks failed
People only remember you for your failures instead of your successes.
If being a fuckup ends in becoming a billionaire, we could do with more of whatever Trump is doing.
Failure as a businessman? No.
But the elites belong on scaffolds, and Trump - as much as I like him - is in the wrong class. Don't get me wrong, I support him, but if a true worker's party with a realistic chance of success that was also nationalist came alone I'd switch camps in a heartbeat. Not that I care, it's American politics, but speaking hypothetically.
Money is power, so democracy requires relative wealth equality. Nobody hates the rich for being rich - they're hated for stealing the entire nation's future and selling it off so that they can buy a slightly bigger yacht next year. Trump's no different.
>>74898360
I would literally suck a hundred thousand dicks to be 10 times the failure Donald Trump is.
>>74897721
>25
Koch bros are out of politics cause of him so he really blew 925 million
>>74896345
Made ten billion dollars, filed for business bankruptcy four times in his life to pull out of deals that weren't profitable and come out ahead.
Average journalists and the media don't know or pretend to not know filing for bankruptcy for failed projects is actually a sound business decision. Because "bankruptcy" has a similar connotation with "going broke" in economically fucked America, they plaster his four reasonable and sound bankruptcies everywhere trying to paint him as a failure who can't manage his money, despite those bankruptcies exemplifying the opposite.
>>74897560
>make entire show about him being a businessman
>2016
>lol what a loser only worth 10 billion dollars
>>74898396
Trump is the Rodney Dangerfield of the business world. He's unnaturally self aware and can see a much bigger picture. Other rich people see him as rocking the boat of the 1% and only humor him so far as to be allowed to use his golf courses. He has no true friends in that world.
>>74896345
>Worth more than $4 billion dollars
>But Trump actually did better than that. This years’ filing covered a shorter period of 16 1/2 months since the start of 2015, versus an 18 1/2 months in the filing a year ago. Annualized, Trump’s revenue in 2015 and early 2016 appears to have risen just over 70% to $400 million.
lmao I'd hate to see how much money a good businessman makes
>>74898704
This is probably one thing both libtards and conservatards can agree on. Fuck the Koch brothers and their money. They are half the reason "cuckservative" is a thing.
>>74898704
Thats fucking hilarious.
>>74899174
>but anon, THIS billionaire is just like us!
If he was like us he wouldn't be a billionaire. Take that whichever way you want.
I'd be willing to accept Trump into the worker's tent if Trump was willing to relinquish his exorbitant wealth. Not because I want him to be poor to fuck him over, but because so long as there are people who have and people who don't have the people who have will have leverage over the people who don't have, allowing them to take more power than they are entitled to.
I don't find it funny that the people who have the most say in government are the ones least affected by it. Trump needs to give up his power, and for that to happen he needs to give up his wealth. Until he does that he's the enemy of the people just like all the rest.
However, I concede to practicality. In lieu of a worker's party or group with a realistic chance of success, Trump will do. He's the best of a bad bunch - that doesn't make him a friend.
>>74898946
>expecting liberals to be into economics
wew lad
>>74896345
>Elizabeth Warren essentially said he's a failure
Who gives a fuck what she says?
He would have made more money had he just invested his Daddy's money in mutual funds.
So no, he isn't a good businessman.
>>74899753
Comrade koala, go fuck yourself.
>>74900122
Australia is the working man's country.
>>74899964
His father was only worth $300 million when he died. Assuming the 2008 financial crisis never happened, which would have decimated his investments, he would not be nearly as wealthy as he is now.
>has skyscrapers with his name on them in several cities across the globe.
>woman with a net value of maybe 100k calls him a loser in business
>>74899964
This is a slanderous lie made up by liberals with crude math and outdated statistics.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/dec/09/occupy-democrats/occupy-democrats-say-simple-investment-trumps-fath/
>>74899964
And he'd be just another rich guy no one's ever heard of. Basically another Walton sibling.
I wish I could be a failure worth billions.
>>74897938
>1 million
He inherited a real estate company in new York City.
You're the epitome of a SJW. You just hear something that makes you feel a bit, and you apply no critical thought, and have no intellectual standards whatsoever.
There is absolutely no actual proof that Trump has ever generated one thin dime beyond what he has inherited. None that has been provided, anyways.
Trump could do so in a second, yet he does not, because his marketing firm knows that retards such as yourself will simply listen and believe if it makes you feel happy.
>>74901806
>He inherited a real estate company in new York City
In like 2003..
>>74899964
he turned 1 million into 10 billion, and you think he could have just done mutual funds? Wouldn't every millionaire who did that be a multi-billionaire?
>>74901806
>You're the epitome of a SJW.
Suck nigger dicks, Justin.
>>74899753
>He still believes in a diametric Us vs Them
>He still believes in zero-sum wealth and a labour theory of value that doesn't hold up to automation and market desire
How old are you? Young? Middle of college?
Please don't be a grown man, that'd be worse than believing in Santa.
>>74901952
And? Proof of his net worth? Before? After?
You have none because nobody does, and you don't care about proof or the truth, or you wouldn't even try to argue a point that you know there is no concrete evidence for.
>>74902098
>can't argue a point
>better shriek
My cousin in the ppcli says Hi. he had a lot of fun visiting you in the 90's from what I hear.
>>74896345
>trusting a progressive on business matters
>>74896345
>>74900342
Too bad we have elections in autumn
>>74902130
>he actually believes that the fight for survival and power ended at the discovery of agriculture and irrigation
>he actually believes that money doesn't equal power
Stop posting and read what I've actually written. It's not about wealth, it's about power. Wealth is only a means to power. For everyone to have equal power they must have relatively equal wealth. This is the only justification for wealth redistribution. I don't care if niggers starve. What I care about is Mr Trump's opinion being 7,000 times more influential than my own. You might not care about that, but don't pretend that you desire democracy or liberty if that's your position.
>>74902140
>March 1988: The New York Times says Trump is worth $3 billion when he buys the Plaza Hotel in Manhattan for $390 million.
A
>>74902219
>dumb mappleniggers think they've been involved in anything other than getting assfucked by Arabs
Wew.
>>74896345
>Elizabeth Warren
literally who?
and how many billions is this prostitute worth to be able to judge Trump?
>>74901806
It's always a leaf. Yes, he inherited his dad's business, but look at what he did with it. Forbes gives Trump a self-made score of 5 which means:
>Inherited small or medium-size business and made it into a ten-digit fortune
http://www.forbes.com/profile/donald-trump/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2014/10/02/the-new-forbes-400-self-made-score-from-silver-spooners-to-boostrappers/#69c0b2757d40
If that's your definition of "failure," then the vast majority of the planet are failures.
>>74902140
Well his dad died in 1999 and was worth 300 million at his death. Since we know Trump is worth billions owing, just in part, to what we know his real estate properties to have been worth before 1999, it stands to reason that Trump could not have possibly inherited billions.
>>74902140
Trump was worth $1 billion when his father died. He then inherited like $50 million.
>>74902339
Cool opinion piece. Have any proof?
Lets see the financial records.
>>74902236
kek
>>74896345
>is this multi billionaire a success or no?
no he's shit and retarded
>>74901806
Do they not have taxes in Canada?
>>74902187
holy shit is this real I'm starting to get why Australians are such shitposting spergs this place is the only freedom they have
>>74902236
>small loan of million dollars meme
>meanwhile Hillary paid a million dollars just for Internet shills.
>>74902384
Like I said, you can't argue so you scream. You are a SJW.
btw he said it was his easiest deployment. He's also been to Africa, so that means that you literally fight worse then niggers.
>>74902495
Are you asking for a proofster shill?
>>74902495
>July 1989: Trump's net worth estimated to be $1.5 billion--and increase of $500 million in 10 months. He makes Forbes' World Billionaires list for the first time.
FUCKING
Nobody becomes and stays successful without experiencing failures. Trump turned $1 million into $4.5 billion, compared to Jeb Bush, who turned $130 million into $260,000 in debt. That's why I hate this white privilege concept. Some people make their success and some people make their failures.
Trump is successful. And now that he's old and fulfilled, he wants that success to lean on the rest of the country.
>>74902435
That's speculation. There are no actual financial records.
>>74896345
He's the worst kind of businessman. Branding lousy crap with his name to inflate it's price. He's rich because consumers are idiots.
>>74901806
His father owned cheap apartment buildings and only cheap apartment buildings.
Donald did the exact opposite and made billions building palaces all over the world. I know you're a troll but there's plenty of proof he as generated far more than anyone in his family inherited.
>>74902745
>Forbes billionaire list is just pure speculation with no credibility
Every fucking time.
>>74897721
HillShill pls go
>>74902699
>estimated
Cool opinion bro.
Financial records, or you're just carrying water because you felt a feel.
>>74902652
Why would I want to engage in an argument with a brain-dead, assmad maplenigger? Screaming into a toilet would be a better use of my time. I just like triggering dumb faggots like you, is all. Feel free to shitpost more, waste your miserable life away and convince absolutely nobody.
>>74902699
LEAF
>>74902779
Got the financial records to back up your editorial?
>>74902495
>leaf debate skills
LOL U GAVE ME PROOF? NICE OPINION PROOF PLS
>>74896345
>a woman who has never been in any sort of managerial position and had to lie about being native american is lecturing a billionaire that has started hundreds of companies but had a handful that failed
its better to take the shot and miss than to never try at all, you massive waste of resources.
>>74902332
>Believes that money does equal power
Oh god we've got a Jebhead
>What I care about is Trumps opinion being more influential
Why is it then that the Koch's opinions do not have enough opinion to be influential to the public, and why don't they or the myriad many more wealthy and exploitative billionaires become politicians?
Why is it that someone with experience and a history and the evidence to back up that experience mean nothing, next to the communist who envies the tall poppy?
Why is that systems you advocate directly lead to the direct opposite - power leading to the wealth of member of the former state apparatus and the burgeoning oligarchies and virulent corruption of personal favour and gain?
I don't desire democracy, but it's interesting to see how the demos are more interested in good governance than in the liberty of labour dictation, and how you can justify the purges and control of dissension that led to the end of those regimes.
Ain't some more equal than others?
>>74902828
>can't produce actual proof
>better pretend that arguments from authority are valid when I need them to be
>>74896345
if he invested the money his daddy gave him in S&P 500 he'd be wealthier now than after his """"ventures""""
>>74902885
>>74902986
Leaf, you made the original claim. Perhaps you should carry your burden and get your own proof.
Also
>Shifting goalposts
>Fallacy fallacy
Not an argument.
>>74902841
>Financial records,
The taxed assessed value of real estate is public record in the US. No one is going to pay $30 a pop to pull title for you Leaf, but I think it's safe to say Forbes probably did the necessary research. $30 isn't that much to them.
>>74902905
>can't provide proof
>better scream
haha wow.
My game is starting up so I've got to go, but lurkers take note: pol did everything I said it would, cry, insult, yell, accept opinions as facts, everything but provide actual proof.
Watch them spin and deflect and wail.
nupol are SJW's, entirely.
>>74903082
t. cuckington post
>>74902885
It's a private company. Why would he release them if he didn't have to? You make it sound like they don't exist at all and all his employees work for free.
I bet you hate the Koch brothers too and their business is private as well. Therefore you should believe they never made any money and couldn't possibly have influence on politics as a result.
>>74903082
This has been debunked so many times its ridiculous, even lefty websites like politifact proved it false.
Nice try you non-white Bosnigger Muslim
>>74902986
>>74903131
>maplenigger keeps sperging
Here's Trump's 100-paged financial report.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2838669/Donald-Trump-Personal-Financial-Disclosure-2016.pdf
>>74902841
>But Trump actually did better than that. This years’ filing covered a shorter period of 16 1/2 months since the start of 2015, versus an 18 1/2 months in the filing a year ago. Annualized, Trump’s revenue in 2015 and early 2016 appears to have risen just over 70% to $400 million.
LEEEEEEEEEEEEEAF
>>74896345
Elizabeth Warren is just jealous that he's worth 10 billion dollars and she's worth whatever she can scam out of lobbyists and a sack of broken kazoos.
>>74903231
why bother, the dude will just call it a right-wing deathsquad source with fake info
leafs are 99% shills
>>74896345
>lots of money
>failed business
kek
>>74902699
REKT
>>74903082
Why isn't every millionaire a billionaire? Clearly they are all failures. What does that make you?
>>74901806
>He inherited a real estate company in new York City.
his dad died in 1999, when Donald was already a famous billionaire, and took over his dads company in 1971 at the age of 25
i'd like to see you take a real estate business and make it into an international real estate empire at 25.
>>74902986
Holy fuck I never got why people said Canadians were worse than Aussies at shitposting until now. Dude just fuck off to another board (and country)
>>74899753
>muh workers
Reality check, Captain Kangaroo: half the people who make up "the working man" are complete shitheads.
>>74896345
Trump's succeeded as a family man which is more than most billionaires can do.
>>74902969
>Why is it then that the Koch's opinions do not have enough opinion to be influential to the public
Because he doesn't need to influence the public, just the political institutions. Do you think Koch gives a shit about what you think about him and his politics? Of course not. He doesn't need your approval because he has MONEY.
>and why don't they or the myriad many more wealthy and exploitative billionaires become politicians?
Because politicians don't have any real power. You should know this by now.
>Ain't some more equal than others?
You can't absorb intelligence by osmosis, so there's no point littering your "rhetoric" (and I'm being generous here) with quotes from people smarter than yourself.
>Why is that systems you advocate directly lead to the direct opposite
Systems I advocate have never been tried in a country that isn't a shithole. Tsarist Russia, Communist Russia, and Federalist Russia, all look remarkably similar despite hugely different forms of government. Why? Because the problems in Russia are Russian problems, not Tsarist, Communist, or Federalist problems.
You can give monkeys democracy but they'll only fail at it. Does this mean that Americans should stop voting and start flinging shit at each other to decide all debate? Monkeys aren't Americans, Russians aren't Brits, and each nation needs its own policies to match its own people.
As a good nationalist you should understand this. There is no one perfect system that works for everyone all the time.
>>74896345
https://youtu.be/M3qYQycZQd0
The cringe is palpable
>>74903426
It's significantly more than half, anon.
The reason we're in this mess is because the workers allowed themselves to be bought off with welfare and transfer payments. It's bread and circuses, and that's all the people want.
I'd be a millionaire successful guy if I inherited my daddy's millions as well as his contacts, and his name.
>>74903382
>i'd like to see you take a real estate business and make it into an international real estate empire at 25.
This.
I was too busy doing heroin and being a faggot at 25 and couldn't have turned two nickels into a quarter at that age, and I went to Ross.
>>74903658
If you're competent, you could keep it afloat. A lot of people would have ran it to the ground. Very few could turn that into billions.
>>74901806
How could he have inherited it from his dad if his dad didn't own any of those buildings? You realize his dad only owned buildings in Brooklyn and Trump took the business into NYC and from there all over the world?
Do you even know what kind of Property Trump owns all over the world? He didn't inherit any of that.
>>74896796
My favorite post ITT
![Autism-Speaks-Sign-4[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/G19b3lY.jpg "Autism-Speaks-Sign-4[1].jpg")
>>74903658
>I'd be a millionaire successful guy
No you wouldn't you autistic piece of shit. Inheritors of fortunes consistently run them in to the ground.
>>74896796
This
You were too good for this world my jeb, so much meme potential wasted.
>>74903169
so what if I'm a cuck?
>>74903222
I'll need proofs other than those sweet triples to believe you LaDarius Rodriguez
>>74903379
most millionaires were self made. most didn't have access to their dad's business connections. the list goes on
>>74903658
>turn a 60k loan into -80k
>thinks he could take 1 mil and turn it into billions
xDDD
>>74903949
Hey faggot, proof has been provided. Where'd you learn to read you Turk blood faggot, get the fuck out of the thread if you're too dumb to read it
We should've turned your entire country into a crater in the 90s
heres a lefty source you Arab cunt http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/dec/09/occupy-democrats/occupy-democrats-say-simple-investment-trumps-fath/
>>74903879
Trump should run as a Democrat in 2020 so the cuckservatives can watch Yeb¡ get destroyed again.
>>74903231
nice to see the maplenigger blown the fuck out
When I grow up, I want to fail just like Donald Trump.
>>74903658
>Donald's father was literally lower class son of immigrants that made millions
>Donald was the son of a millionaire that took a relatively small loan to start up his own ventures, impressed his dad so much he was allowed to take over the family business at 25, and went on to become a world renowned billionaire
>today, retards like you say Donald is an idiot with no business sense.
and again, he was already a famous billionaire when his dad died. his inheritance didn't mean jack shit to his wealth.
>>74903131
haha you got owned
>>74903131
Lol proof is hardly required for things that only require simple logic. Such as the fact that Trump has built a worldwide real estate empire whereas his dad just owned apartments in Brooklyn. So it's literally impossible to inherit something that didn't exist in the first place.
Besides that, you're making the claim that Trump inherited all his wealth and is a "failure", so in that case YOU'RE the one who needs to provide proof. I'll takes Forbes articles over your DailyKos crap any day..
>>74897560
I remember reading mad magazine comics about him in 1994 joking that he repeatedly filed chapter 11 bankruptcy.
>>74896345
Fauxcahontas must be projecting considering she's Chief All Talk No Action
>>74896345
>Elizabeth Warren
isn't that the 1/64th Cherokee working for shillary?
he already BTFO her
>>74896345
>His embarrassing insecurities are on parade: petty bullying, attacks on women, cheap racism, and flagrant narcissism.
She's just projecting her own insecurity, because this is what women do when they're insecure. There's a reason feminists rely on bullying, attacking men, attacking the white race and acting like narcissists who insist they're better at things where men are completely dominant.
>5 or so businesses out of literally hundreds
>some of which were in fucking Atlantic City
>rest are typical stock liberal insults
shiggy
>>74902495
>Let me finish putting these wheels on these goal post.
If Donald Trump is a business failure I sure fucking hope I'm a business failure by the time I'm his age too.
>>74903082
>>74903949
>not knowing how stocks work by this much
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-09-03/should-donald-trump-have-indexed-
>The simplest version of the comparison seems to be that if Trump had taken his $40 million inheritance from his father in 1974, converted it into cash, and invested it in the S&P 500, reinvesting all dividends and spending no money along the way, he'd have about $2.3 billion or so today, depending on how you do the math. Bloomberg computes his actual net worth as $2.9 billion
>That, however, understates his performance. For one thing, if he put all his money in index funds and reinvested all the dividends for 41 years, he'd be dead, because you can't buy food with reinvested dividends.
>The public valuations of Trump's assets may also not be quite apples-to-apples with a market value of the S&P 500. Bloomberg's computation of Trump's net worth basically takes the value of his buildings and golf courses; it "doesn’t value Trump’s brand beyond accounting for cash held in accounts for his licensing deals and business partnerships." But of course the value of the S&P 500 doesn't come from the value of its cash and buildings. It comes from expectations of future earnings. Trump claims that he's worth more than $10 billion because of the value of his brand, which "goes up and down with markets and with attitudes and with feelings, even my own feelings." That sounds silly when Trump says it about himself, but it is dead right about the S&P, which has had a whole lot of feelings recently. But ultimately its value comes from its claim on earnings, and the S&P price/earnings ratio is about 19.6. Just for laughs, put that multiple on Trump's $300-million-ish of income and you get an organization worth about $6 billion.
having an actual revenue generating company is more profitable than stocks you massive retard.
>>74902626
>hillary pays millions for internet shills
>hilldog still doesn't have any good memes
How do you fail this bad?
>>74904059
>>74905309
>don't reveal how much money daddy gave you
>hurrr durrr see!!! he has 8B instead of 3B he should have if he invested the amount of money we think he got from daddy
pathetic
>>74905309
>having an actual revenue generating company is more profitable than stocks you massive retard.
Not to mention that he directly employs 22 500 people through the Trump Organization, who all pay taxes. Depending on how its calculated, some people attribute as much as 67 000 jobs to Trump, and this comes from the highly liberal CNN. He also employs a lot of spics and niggers, apparently far more than his competition.
If his entire fortune was invested in stocks, it would just sit there and grow, and wouldn't actually produce anything.
>>74905309
Why don't people on welfare ever invest their gibs in the S&P? Seems like a sure thing.
>>74906224
>Not to mention that he directly employs 22 500 people through the Trump Organization, who all pay taxes.
at least someone related to Trump is paying taxes if he won't: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-income-tax-returns-once-became-public-they-showed-he-didnt-pay-a-cent/2016/05/20/ffa2f63c-1b7c-11e6-b6e0-c53b7ef63b45_story.html
>>74906027
>bosnia demonstrates its reading comprehension yet again
>>74902435
>he inherited his dad's business
It was divided between the rest of his siblings Fred Trump died in 1999 that's 9 years after Donald trump (black version) and 20 years after trump tower was built, he didn't need to inherit anything he already had a business of his own and was a made man at that point.
>>74902435
>bachelor of arts
My Trump boner is gone.
>>74906732
It's an economics degree in the Wharton School of Business. One of the best businesses in the world.
>>74906732
>Elizabeth Warren attempts to explain how bullying is bad by bullying Trump
>a guy who only retaliates and doesn't start fights
ok
>>74906732
Learn to read, dumbfuck.
It says Bachelor of Arts/Science. He actually has a degree in economics.
>>74899753
Wonder Wombat, the Socialist Avenger.
>>74901806
Turning 1 million dolars into 10 billion is not as easy as turning 10 dollars into 100,000.
I know a couple of people who have made that amount of money from 100 U$S.
I know only one who made 10 billion out of a mil.
>>74899113
The show was on fucking NBC, too.
>>74903658
>inherited daddy's millions
>got a 1 mil loan
>dad died long after his business had become successful and he had paid his father back
Nice try you fucking shill.
>>74906993
>One of the best businesses in the world.
No. THE best business school in the world. I went to Ross and couldn't have hoped to get in there.
>>74901806
You slimy little fucking shill. I can't wait until your ass is thrown in a cell with Tyrone and you get raped into oblivion. All to make a few bucks.
FRAUD IS ILLEGAL. You have not disclosed your employer, you are manipulating people into buying a product, you are committing fraud,
>>74896345
She has obviously never been on the internet.
These are standard politically incorrect actions, which Trump has said multiple times he practices.
Trump's bankruptcies have totaled right around 6 billion in total which is slightly more than his total net worth. The Biggest shitfest by far was the Trump Taj Mahal which featured him selling junk bonds even though he swore he wouldn't and him being so desperate to cover an interest payment his dad had to go down to Atlantic City and buy 6 million dollaroos worth of casino chips. This was later determined to have been an illegal transaction.
>>74903392
That's not a Canadian, that's a shill and proxy. He's been kiking this place up for days.
>>74896345
Elizabeth Warren's entire political career is based on her being a race she's not.
>>74902626
Id wager more was spent than that, more than theyre willing to admit, and its all pointless because people hate her shills or not.
>>74906430
>a legal LAW that many other companies took advantage of because it was designed to incentivize rebuilding after 9/11
Yeah, we already blew this intentionally misleading article to pieces last time you shills tried to use it.
He doesn't keep his fortune offshore like Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos, he can't, because most of it isn't liquid, it's hard real estate. REAL tax dodgers are paying literally $0 or the IRS OWES *them* money on billions in annual revenue. They use schemes like the "Double irish". Look it up faggot.
Also I just realized even the fucking title is misleading. Trump has released his taxes dozens of times, its just this ONE TIME they found out Trump got a tax break, as part of a government program to rebuild after 9/11.
>>74899753
I know it's his words and all, but Trump actually has better relations with the taxi drivers and such than with other wealthy businessmen.
>>74900996
>His father was only worth $300 million when he died.
>only worth $300 million
>>74901556
He's well known because of his shitty reality show and his garish obsession with himself(plastering his name all over his developments to the point of it being cartoonish), not because he is a financial wizard. Warren Buffet is a real financial wizard, and that alone, and most everyone knows him.
>>74901975
>he turned 1 million into 10 billion
In addition to the $1m loan he also inherited $40m from his father.
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/090215/how-donald-trump-became-rich.asp
Also, he's not self-made in any sense. As I said he inherited a ton of money, and probably also used daddy's connections to get ahead.
>>74908490
>This was later determined to have been an illegal transaction.
[citation fucking needed]
Determined by who? Certainly not the police or the courts, or he would have been charged.
>>74908807
>He's well known because of his shitty reality show
You're showing your underage. Trump was famous as fuck in the 80s. He was THE businessman everyone wanted to be. He was very well known by then, and that was before he even started his genius branding campaign with the divorces and articles like "BEST SEX I EVER HAD".
>>74902986
>arguments from authority
Proof?
>>74896345
>failed businesses meme
>515 businesses
>can only point out a small handful that "failed"
>of those almost all of them had to do with branding and sticking the Trump name on things
>that's still a 99% success rate
>while 80% of start ups fail
>bankruptcy meme
>liberals don't understand the difference between chapter 7 and chapter 11 because they don't own a business or even generally have a job
>4 bankruptcies
>3 of those bankruptcies had to do with a single company
>all of them had to do with Atlantic city at the time it was crashing
>pundits actually praised him for getting out mostly unscathed
>gets treated like it's a personal bankruptcy instead of what it actually is; temporary protection of assets for a single company while a new arrangement is made with the investor
>no, not an old woman on a fixed income bailing out a billionaire as it's portrayed; just debt restructuring with his debtor
>this is the same kind of bankruptcy Bill Gates had to do with LLC energy
>Trump is therefore literally Hitler
>he's so bad at business
>he's a loser
That's why he's worth 10 billion dollars?
>petty bullying
Trump only counter-attacks. He doesn't pick fights.
>attacks on women
See above. If you're referring to Rosie O'Donnell, she was called a fat pig because she criticized Trump for not firing a woman after breaking her contract by consuming drugs.
>cheap racism
Illegal isn't a race and neither is Islam.
>>74896345
Shill for the Hill
>>74910065
>That's why he's worth 10 billion dollars?
He's not worth 10 billion. It's estimated to be around 4-6 billion.
>all of them had to do with Atlantic city at the time it was crashing
The trump taj mahal was a disaster long before the AC crash which has only gotten really severe over the last decade. And then there's the junk bond fiasco.
>>74906430
Wow, that article was a whole lot of nothing and then
>oh, one year in the past he """"""claimed"""""" he had negative income
You know he was heavily in debt at one time?
>>74910499
>estimated
But I thought we needed actual records? Come on, people
>>74896345
>Elizabeth Warren essentially said he's a failure:
Elizabeth Warren panders to financially and economically illiterate populists. She is effectively the Bobby Jindal of the left. She should know better, but she claims not to. Anything she says related to economics and finance really does not hold much water. Another analogy is Dr. Oz and homeopathic medicine.
>>74904572
Warren is useless and does nothing in the senate except tweet to trump
>>74901806
>>74910499
man you're really getting BTFO, maybe just stop now
>>74903474
money should equal power I don't see anything wrong with that. isnt having lots of money a signal to the rest of society that you among the best of people? especially in a market economy?
>>74896345
>Forbes estimates Trump networth to be anywhere from $3 - $4 Billion dollars
>Small loan of a million dollars
>Equivalent of turning $1,000 into $4,000,000 to put things in perspective
>"""failure"""
topkek, what does she think a success is?
>>74910978
Never forget.
>>74899964
>muh wouldve made the same in mutual funds
>literally created a worldwide brand/empire that has built countless high rises and golf courses and by the way also employs hundreds of thousands of people on a yearly basis
'Failure' says the faggot. I thought you do-gooders hate old money style wealth. Yet when the navigator provides labor and wages to so many lower and middle class brethren you criticize him for NOT taking his inherited money and parking his shit in the South of France? Why do you hate accomplishment and free enterprise so much?
>>74896345
should i do it bros
>>74902885
He released his financials. He has not released his tax returns.
Though we do know that Trump has made far more than he inherited just from doing the apprentice.
