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>>74796513
>blue virginia
lol
>>74796699
Polls show it to be competitive.
>>74796513
>Arizona not voting for the man who wants to deport mexicans
Kill yourself.
>>74796513
Berniefag here, that seems pretty optimistic for Shillary.
>Georgia
>blue
Nope.
Actually, looking at this map I'm even more confident that she will be BTFO.
>>74796747
All the shit Fed workers that ruined NOVA will keep VA blue for a looooong while.
AZ blue? Please.
>>74796513
>arizona
>blue
>>74796513
>that state
>that color
i'd laugh my ass off. plausible map at this point.
>>74796513
we could get AZ
>>74797031
came here to post this
>>74796513
I live in Georgia, no way it'd be blue. Arizona wouldn't be either. Florida is debatable though.
>Georgia
>blue
>Georgia
>blue
>Arizona
>Blue
>Michigan
>Red
niggr are you even trying
I'm nearly certain that Georgia hasn't voted blue since 1960. LBJ betrayed the south and it's been Republican since 1964.
>>74797331
Jimmy carter, homie
>>74796513
>blue GA and blue AZ
Nah
>>74796513
Fuck you Illinois, and fuck you Obama.
>>74797377
Oh yeah he was from there wasn't he? Idk if I'd count that then because it's basically just home cookin'.
>>74797284
Michigan probably blue but I could see my state maybe being red this time around.
>>74797398
Reminder that Illinois is a state that literally got caught selling senate seats
>>74797377
Jimmy is from Georgia, so he doesn't count.
>>74796513
I got Trump at 272.
Gave him AZ, GA, VAG.
Gave seahag PA and MI.
>>74797677
still, most of our governors in the last 50 years were dems, even our current governor switched to the Republican party before he ran for governor. the days of the southern Democrat are over though.
If it's Trump vs. Hillary then I think these are the states up for grabs.
FL
MI
NH
NY (He just needs like 15% of the City to support him, and Upstate will will do the bulk)
OH
PA
VA
>>74796513
>Arizona and Georgia
>blue
Hot damn, that's some spicy autism, my friend
>>74797856
Please do not refer to your future president as a seahag. Yes I can see us winning by our traditional rust belt route too.
>>74796513
Trump is currently ahead in Jawga you stupid nigger.
>>74798006
Lol at NY.
>>74798229
but not by much which says something
>>74796513
Nevada will vote republican you imbecile
>>74798006
There are more cops, firefighters, construction workers, truck drivers, etc. in NYC than anywhere else. We got this.
>>74798006
I think he can get some New York Juden to do some campaigning for him in NYC. He's got lots of powerful Juden friends that could help him get just enough in the city.
>>74798276
>Implying that Trump goes down in the polls at all rather than up
Clinton can pretty much only go downhill, Trump is the opposite. If Romney took it, Trump can.
>>74796513
flip NV and GA
>>74798502
But there are more Latinos in Georgia now than in 2012 and Trump will do even worse with them than Romney did.
>>74796513
>GA
>AZ
>NH
K.
>>74797014
nice meme. aren't enough people in NOVA to turn the whole state blue.
VA went red much harder for Bush than it went blue for Obama. Obama, an infinitely better candidate than Hillary, barely defeated Mittens "Mittens" Romney in 2012
VA will be red this cycle
R8 me
>>74798242
Trump is from NY. If any Republican has a shot it's him. Trump has a lot of support upstate. Tons of signage everywhere and more than just bumper stickers and window stickers. I saw a boat the other day that had a giant TRUMP 2016 cover over it.
Hillary is a mess.
>>74798750
No way VA will be red. It's staying blue from now on. Here's my other prediction for Hillary without AZ or GA.
>>74798809
I am in Texas. We're not going blue m8. It's sad to say. I'm like one of the few Obama and Hillary supporters I know.
>>74796513
Why the hell would Georgia and Virginia go blue?
Niggers aren't voting, there's not a magic mulattoe running for president this time.
>>74796957
Come home, white man.
>>74798680
too bad they can't vote
>>74797014
NOVA is fine, I live here. It's blue yeah, and federal workers play largely into that. Honestly what would ruin this area is if a really conservative candidate took all their jobs away, cause there's not enough private sectors jobs to replace them.
Doesn't stop me from voting conservative.
>>74798958
Trump is a dangerous loose cannon we can't afford.
>>74799126
Yes they can.
>>74798865
most of new york live in nyc and rochester. please take a look at the demographics and polls from those areas. The rest of the state doesn't matter.
source: live in nyc, born in rochester.
>>74799103
Minority voters have been turning out in huge numbers for HRC.
>>74799240
Also it's not like NYC/Rochester are the only blue areas of New York. Half of Upstate is still blue if you look at election results.
>>74798958
Hilary is a mistake.
>>74798282
You are the imbecile if you think Nevada is going red.
>>74798750
Nope. Remember, everyone in northern VAhad a job which depends on the federal government maintaining the status quo. They will vote Hillary.
>>74799180
>Shillary
>NC
Map, dismissed.
>>74799094
Hush, lil cuckie.
>>74799094
>It's sad to say. I'm like one of the few Obama and Hillary supporters I know.
>being this fucking gay
>>74796513
>florida
>red
good luck. blacks and latinos are all for hillary. 60% of whites are R but good chunk wont vote for Trump because muh Jesus and the latinos, lib whites, and blacks combined can't be beat
>>74799094
Curious, where in Texas do you live?
>>74799094
Are you still in the closet?
>>74798680
Obviously enough people support him in Georgia for him to be ahead there. Hillary's lead has evaporated and the conventions haven't even happened yet. Trump is still tying up loose ends with the GOP and has already Hillary lost her lead. He's barely even attacked her and it's neck in neck. Most people thought that if Trump was going to gain at all, it would be in August, September and October, but Hillary's big lead that everybody was talking about has evaporated and there's still 5 months until the election. It definitely is still too close to call at this moment and I honestly don't know what will happen, but Hillary and Trump are still dealing with their own parties at the moment and haven't went head-to-head very much yet. VPs aren't even decided yet either.
>>74798809
Shit
>>74799216
not here, hombre. they check ids. at least in my county, can't speak for shitlanta
>>74799550
>>74799094
Austin, I'm calling it now.
>>74796513
Run the model: https://www.americanhistoryusa.com/campaign-trail/
A couple dozen times and you tell me
Also bear in mind that if Michigan goes red, its likely that Virginia, Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin and New Hampshire go red too
>>74796957
The odds of GA going blue are better than PA going red.
Thoughts?
>>74798996
>>74799423
unlike you armchair political scientists, i actually live here and know that the nova meme is completely exaggerated
>>74799993
>Clinton with around 56%
Unlikely but in this scenario you should make Montana blue, probably even South Dakota too
>>74799799
Fuck off m8. No way PA, OH, and FL go Trump. Hillary has a good shot at NC, GA, and AZ too.
>>74796513
Gimme a r8 niggas
>>74799550
Beaumont-Port Arthur Area
>>74800143
OH, PA and FL are already on the knife's edge (in particular, OH tends to favor Trump), Virginia will take a bit of a feat to turn, but once it goes through, New Hampshire turns lean red too
>>74800143
>florida
>not going trump
loving
every
laugh
Is Trump really going to win!?
YES!
implying it wont be 2012 all over again
>>74800211
disturbing but will never happen.
>>74800395
That is what I am expecting.
>blue Arizona
>>74800211
Bretty gud, but by the time you get Michigan, NH goes red too
>>74799993
This is pretty much what I'm expecting to see happen.
>>74800395
This has literally never happened in all of US history.
>>74800672
It will in 2016.
>>74800672
either way i expect it to be another landslide election
>>74796647
stop lowering the number, it's fucking 63% white if we don't count Alberto Barbossa and Spaniards, 73% if we do.
>>74799094
>supporting Obama and Clinton
Are you fucking retarded?
>>74798547
I think NH too
>>74799153
>hillary
>Ohio
Top kek
Hillary might well win GA and AZ, if Trumps shits up his campaign with stupidity and his big mouth being a political novice not knowing when to shut up. And Trump might well win PA and MI, if he runs a good campaign and Hillary gets fucked by the FBI or some other outside force or the economy goes muy malo. But there's no senario where Hillary wins GA and AZ *and* Trump wins PA and MI all in the same election. If Hillary is carrying GA and AZ it means she's already won PA and MI by double digits, and it Trump is winning PA and MI it means he's already safely ahead in GA and AZ. People on here act like state races happen in a vaccuum without being affected by the national horserace. The biggest predictor of a state's outcome is the national topline polling numbers adjusted by a factor of that state's partisan makeup. GA and AZ are much more republican than PA and MI so they're not going to end up on opposite sides. And no, Trump is not going to play in NY just because he lives there. NY is deep blue by the number of registered voters.
>>74800624
True, the only thing is that Michigan is a Rust Belt state that has stayed Democrat because of Muslims, Detroit negroes and unions splitting the white vote. This year the white vote will be more united due to the fact that unions are defecting from Democrat support to Trump and the negro turnout won't be on Obama levels. NH is full of middle-class white cucks far removed from the multi-culti jungles of the South and the Rust Belt NE, there's a good shot of them going red though but Michigan is pretty unrelated as far as NE is concerned.
>>74800941
No but you must be if you support Trump. Hillary will defeat him in November and Obama's legacy will remain in tact.
>>74800672
country in 2012 was already highly polarized. The swing vote is just a meme so you know. i expect it to stay the same way.
>>74799993
You're a fucking retard
>>74800636
>if only
thoughts?
>>74801106
You are really really stupid
>>74799094
>I am in Texas. We're not going blue m8. It's sad to say.
Do us a favor, either go back to California or kill yourself.
My personal opinion
>my opinion matters
Well fuck you too
>>74801336
>Uragay
Why are you so up to date on American politics, m8?
>>74801429
I follow US politics since 2004
>>74801336
>Colorado dark blue
>Pennsylvania leans red
outside of that it's pretty good.
>>74801106
You literally support a fucking criminal
>>74801485
URAGAY
>>74801336
PA going red
top lel
>>74801485
Any reason why?
I mean I try to be aware of world politics but I could never draw a map of European voting positions, for example.
>>74798242
i live in albany and there is an insane amount of trump support here.
>>74801607
Since the steel mills and coal mines started leaving the state is going red.
>>74801531
She has never been arrested or charged. She is a victim of the vast right wing conspiracy against her that has been going on since Bill was governor of Arkansas.
>>74801485
Then you'll know that Pennsylvania has not gone red since 1988 despite Republicans saying they will win it every four years.
>>74801679
Tell that to the 4 dead soldiers in benghazi, and the thousands of dead Serbians
>>74796513
1. Arizona will be red.
2. if alabama is red, wouldn't georgia be red as well?
3. wisconsin would be red
>>74801326
I've lived in Texas my whole life but I was born in Connecticut so maybe I should go back there. Never been to California but I'd like to.
>>74800056
>unlike you armchair political scientists, i actually live here and know that the nova meme is completely exaggerated
Then why did the counties and independent cities around DC go for Rubio? People that suck on the government teat aren't stupid.
>>74801746
Trump's greatest strength is in the rust belt. More so than any other Republican, his anti-immigration and protectionist stances appeal greatly to the old workers there.
PA is certainly in play. I think it's too early to call one way or another, but PA and OH are very much in play for Trump this year.
>>74796513
TRUMP will win NH
>>74801656
>albany
you cause NYC isnt about 85x as populous as your tiny city
>>74801762
Benghazi is a media manufactured non-scandal/partisan witch hunt. Serbia deserved it for genociding Bosnian Serbs.
>>74801930
no way
Romney practically lived there and did not win it.
>>74801746
Its trending red, also every time I ran the simulation with American History, it was always easier to turn PA red than VA and a lot more cost effective, followed by FL which turns red even easier but which is not exactly cost effective (it starts very faintly bluish in the simulation)
And its an old model from MARCH, back when Trump was dead in the water against Hillary
>>74801935
we should really be a separate state. fuck the city.
>>74798006
I don't have much faith for Jew York senpai but it would be the cuckening of a lifetime of Trump beat Hillary there.
>>74802000
You are correct to some degree, NH will only turn red if Trump manages to get around 49 (just a bit more than 49 actually) to 50%
>>74798282
>nevada is the home of every insane fucking progressive
Barney Frank, and the other kike with the glasses
>>74802000
>If Romney couldn't do it than Trump can't
You realize that Romney is the weakest republican nominee in history right?
>>74798006
Have never seen New York turn red in the simulation, Trump (and Hillary for that matter) seem to have a ceiling of 56% in it, which is insufficient to get New York even close, it gets up to 46-50% close, but Hillary still wins
Its even more lopsided in California, Hillary still wins with 51% at Trump level 56% national
Also I hope you guys know that having certain districts voting for 80 years straight democrat is literally the definition of a one party state bullshit thing and hope you choke on a mountain of dicks
Am looking at you, Kings district of New York
>red Michigan
>blue Arizona
>blue Georgia
What is this nigger doing?
>Implying this wont be the results
degenerate
>the last time some of the districts of New York went red was back when Calvin Coolidge was elected
Not even the Soviet Union lasted this long, just getting that outta my chest
>>74802584
Two party politics are wonderful. Don't need to convince them that you're good, just that the other side is bad.
Republicans are bad for the status quo in really dense cities.
>>74802689
Districts, maybe. But the state went red with Reagan.
>tfw I live in Virginia
>tfw Chesapeake 757-fag
>overwhelmingly red because the military fucking hates Democrats
>get cucked by NOVA in 2008 and 2012
People forget how much of a failure the Bush presidency was, the Republicans lost a lot of trust in VA. That's how Obama got us in 08. He won in 2012 because Tea Party fags were obnoxious retards and no one likes Mitt Romney. I'm petty certain Trump is going to take VA given the enormous primary turnout being overwhelmingly in his favor (except in NOVA where they voted for Rubiotron, again, fuck those cunts).
Have faith /pol/acks.
I've successfully predicted the outcome of the 2008 and 2012 elections perfectly. I have no proof of this, but you'll just have to take my word on it.
Here's my 2016 prediction.
Pennsylvania will be the "Florida" of 2016. Whoever takes PA, wins the election. I do think Trump's populist appeal will put him over the top. Also, Clinton's comments on coal miners will hurt her badly in the rust belt.
>>74802755
The South was literally 96% Democratic during FDR and you don't see me complaining as much about it
But 80 years of democratic one party rule in parts of New York? What in the actual... whatever
Uruguay used to be a two party system, and still kind of is, just differently, and I never saw that kind of political stagnation
>>74802859
I think NH can be red
>>74796513
Switch the following 4, and it will be more realistic:
AZ and GA switch to red
PA and MI switch to blue
>>74802859
New hampshire has a possibility of going republican mate. Especially with the poll done in the north east that said 40% of sanders supporters up there would vote Trump.
>>74796647
The difference is that the USA was 100% non-white 500 years ago European countries were 100% white 50 years ago. Yet your paternal bloodlines are already dying out. The 200 million white Americans aren't going anywhere, but you cucks are already 10-20% muslim.
>>74802964
Again, the democrats win in those districts because of the HEAVY demonetization of the Republican party, especially towards minorities.
Which is funny cause Northern Republicans were essential to the passage of the Civil Rights Act, and it was Southern Democrats that nearly killed it.
>>74803065
>>74802980
Possible for sure.
>>74803103
This. The US was founded as a melting pot of cultures and races. Germany's historically been homogeneously white
>>74802179
I used your model and Hillary won with the exact same map as 2012. :)
>>74802838
also worth mentioning that even though liberals are being loud (as usual) in their criticism of Trump that Hillary Clinton is a swear word outside of Democrat enclaves. The majority of the country hates her guts.
>>74803065
Those Sanders voters are legit retards because Trump is literally the opposite of Sanders except for the semi populist message Trump has
>>74799279
>HRC
>who might this be
>>74803279
I seriously thought this map was saying that there's a giant Israel out West in my country at first.
>>74800211
if MI and WI are red, NH and NV would be red as well. maybe even VA too.
then you have the a trump landslide electoral map. (54%+ of popular vote)
>>74799960
No they aren't. Both Georgia Presidential polls were done by incredibly left leaning news outlets based in Atlanta: WSB and AJC.
>>74803362
bernouts dont care about the issues they just came out for bernie because it was cool to do so. Very few of them were going to vote anyway.
>>74796957
another berniefag here, mi is definitely going to go to shillary - she sucked flint's collective dick (and politicized the issue rather than condemning snyder's personal incompetence)
>>74803362
I'm one of those Bernie supporters, and let me tell you, there's only one reason why we will vote for Trump:
>He is anti-establishment, which is huge for a lot of young voters.
>>74802838
>enormous primary turnout
This means nothing in the general.
>>74803228
What's funny is that it isn't even because of minorities, I believe
I think its got more to do with German Americans, Judeo-Americans and Irish Americans just siding with the democratic party and literally setting up a factory of votes
Then it somehow getting replaced with minorities as time goes on and the old 'whites' become more and more republican
>>74803291
Well, yeah, that scenario (March 2016) has a high rate of success for Hillary (around 67% of all matches are won by her)
The thing is, that was back when Trump trailed in polls, and I believe we are in for a wild ride these coming months, up and down
>>74796513
I bet you're close. I'm hoping it's 2000 close and Trump demands a recount and shit.
>>74801171
trump has a 57% disapproval rating, hillary has a 53%
i think we're going to see a very low voter turnout this year
>>74803279
wat?
>>74803493
Not me that's for sure, it's a shame that many of his supporters probably just heard free and flicked towards him and this is coming from a huge Bernie supporter
This would be a lot of fun here.
>Trump strong in the Northeast and Midwest due to his populist appeal.
>All the old women come out to vote in Florida for Hillary, keeping it blue.
>Virginia becomes less of a swing state, and more of a likely Democratic one.
>Trump does surprisingly well in Nevada and Colorado, in spite of the latino vote.
269-269
>>74799993
Almost >74799999
>>74803665
>supreme court ties now that Scalia's ded
That could get ugly real quick
>>74803819
You realize that Florida is going red this year right?
>>74803778
Johnson! Johnson!
>>74803819
Nevada and Colorado won't go red before Florida and Virginia though, unless voodoo magic happens
>>74802859
Chances are not good that Trump will get both OH and PA.
PA has gone blue in every pres. election since 1992, and OH has gone blue in all but 2 of the pres. elections since 1992. Trump is hugely unpopular with minorities, and is not doing well with women -- so the only hope Trump has in OH/PA is a huge increase in white male turnout among those whites males who haven't been voting in the past. Possible, but not likely.
Other than that, the rest of your map looks good.
>>74803839
>Civil War breaks out
>Military rallies around Trump, installs him in the White House
>>74803559
Do you know anything about their policies? I am going to sit this election or I refuse to vote for the establishment or anyone on the far right
>>74803362
they want anti-establishment more than they want socialism. so they'll take trump over hillary.
some bernie supporters are retards, but so are some trump supporters. but what they share in common is the belief that the people who have been in charge for the last 30+ years have fucked us and we need to shake things up a bit
My prediction for the 2016 electoral map.
>>74796513
you're fucking nuts if you think Clinton will win Georgia.
>>74797331
They voted for Clinton in 92 but that's it I think
>>74801607
>PA not going red
do you even small town/city bar bro?
>>74804169
Switch NC and VA
>>74804106
Trump's good on trade and guns. You can say I'm a pro-gun liberal.
>>74804169
>NC blue
I wish this meme would end
>>74799960
last election, the gap in GA was wider in favor of R (8%) than the gap in PA (5.5%)
and that was with romney vs. incumbent
>>74803819
correct result
wrong method
>>74804274
>Ohio
>Blue
>>74798399
He lost to Kasech in Manhattan. That's tragic.
>>74804227
I'm just portraying the worst case scenario mate
>>74799993
>Texas
>Blue
Kill yourself
>>74796513
There is no way Arizona isn't going trump, God damn illegals have to go back
Would anybody argue that this is Trump's best-case scenario? Are there any blue states on this map that you could see flipping for Trump?
>>74804429
new hampshire
>>74804429
NH and MI
>>74804477
Yep, forgot that one, thanks.
>>74804429
NH could go red, but WV and NV going red are a stretch
>>74804429
I think that minus Nevada and Colorado are his best case scenario. Well, he could take NH too.
CO is too much "dude weed lmao" to turn red, and NV has too many hispanics. But NH is anti-establishment and fucking hates Hillary. I remember an exit poll showing that 25% of Bernie supporters would never vote for Hillary. Doesn't sound like much, until you realize that was in February and that number is probably higher now.
>>74804429
At 53, Oregon and Washington begin acquiring a redish hue, so does New Jersey, Connecticut and Maine
At 56, WA is red, OR is red, IL is red, it goes full paint it red Donald.jpg, except for VT, NY, CA, HI and NM
>>74804534
>WV
>Ever going blue after Clinton's coal comments
topkek
>>74804429
NH isn't a blue state. they voted for Bush II
WI could switch. maybe.
Oh, and I forgot DC, which somehow seems to be made of the DNC itself and the lair of the crooked ice witch for some reason lol
>>74796513
>michigan and pennsylvania red
>arizona and georgia blue
this pic is retarded. It's almost as dumb as people saying Trump will win New York
>>74804589
but trump supports the states rights to decide on weed
and medicinal cannabis nationwide
>>74798006
Florida seems very Trumpy from what I've seen. I can't speak for the entirety of Florida, but you could drive for hours without seeing a Hillary sign here.
>>74804534
>WV going blue
you either made a mental error or are retarded
>>74804620
I feel the "WI's going Red!" is such a meme. Obama won by 9 or something and polling has Hillary up 10 or something
>>74804712
Same with NY, what are people fucking smoking? That's going blue
>>74804690
If there is one thing that is constant in the universe, it is DC going blue
>>74796513
>Clintoris not bulldozing Trumpykins by riding on the wave of people who don't know shit about politics voting cause da big nosed man on tv said he is a raysis and go wimmin!
step it up onii-senpai
>>74798006
New York is more liberal than California. You're so fucking delusional if you think Trump will win New York.
God fucking damn it /pol/. Texas might as well be a swing state.
>>74804785
I read somewhere that DC is undergoing a process inverse to that of London, its becoming whiter apparently
Which I cannot believe since the Democrat voting pattern remains the same
>>74804715
It's all about what other people think. Other people think "Republicans=weed stealers"
>>74804914
It doesn't matter is DC is 100% white males.
Look at its voting history. Always at least 80% Democrat, even when they get BTFO like Mondale and McGovern
>>74804914
its white hipsters and trustfund babbys
>>74804962
I know, its insane
Since, 2000, the Republicans' strongest year has been 2004.
This was the result in Wisconsin in 2004.
Bush only lost by 0.4%, so it's definitely do-able for Trump.
This map is based on current polls.
I believe Trump will win Florida but I'm wagering he'll lose Ohio and Virginia. With that said he'll still lose the election.
I challenge anyone to provide a more realistic map than this.
>>74805034
I honestly don't know how Democrats kept such a strong base there (filthy liberal here btw). That being said, a stronghold of 3 electoral votes isn't much
>>74805068
But the times change. Democrats have much more of a stronghold on states like Colorado and Wisconsin (for now), while Republicans have weakened the Dem's grip on states like PA
>>74801303
I'd vote for Yeb
>GA blue
In some bizzarro USA maybe.
>>74805254
my big brother kept us safe!
>>74804508
I doubt Michigan
The governor that personally poisoned Flint is a scary white Republican (this is what dindus actually believe)
>>74805175
Am at a complete loss, maybe its got to do with it being populated by disenfranchized blacks that just turned left after the 60es?
And then the whites that moved in adopted the same political ideas? Who knows
>inb4 its cultural appropriation
you're all retarded
if youre calling swing states 5 months out before the debates and who knows what kind of natural disasters, global events or gaffs will happen, then youre acting retarded
>>74805494
its white liberals who work in dc politics
>>74805428
He's saying that because slick Willy won it.
But that was two decades ago. She'll lose GA tho.
>>74805494
Too lazy to find out tbqh
>>74805495
We're just trying to kill the time killjoy
Why the fuck does California worth 55 points?
>>74805175
If (big if) the Libertarians pull a Ross Perot this year, they may actually pull more blue voters from states like CO, WI and WA.
>>74805495
You won't prevent me from having fun this time /v/
>>74805505
Virginia and New Hampshire aren't going red m8
>>74805505
>OH and PA going blue.
Top kek
>>74805647
most people in the state?
>>74805648
Oh yeah a third party like Libertarian could and would change the game
>>74796513
I'm expecting something along these lines where Trump is Goldwater, minus Arizona.
>>74805647
A huge population of smelly beaners.
Is /pol/ finally accepting the reality that Trump can't win?
>>74805711
im waiting to see if bernie goes 3rd party
he wont, but who knows
>>74805821
>virginia
>but not ohio
when will this meme end?
>>74804191
Any state with a ghetto city or two goes blue nowadays
>>74805821
Yeah ever since he couldn't win the primaries due to his racist rhetoric : ^ )
>>74805648
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>>74805648
>2016 will be the year of the libertarian they said
>Rand Paul totally got it in the bag this time they said
>>74805787
Tennesse will still be red, so will be WV, quite probably Kentucky, Nebraska, Kansas and Oklahoma, in the worst case scenario
>>74805849
100% he won't. But it's all about what his supporters will do.
>>74805927
I said pull a Ross Perot. Not win.
>>74805787
>texas
>blue
Hillary is no lbj
>>74806041
Also
>libertarians not fucking up the republicans in the end rather than the dems
Maybe when the democrats start becoming the center right party while the republicans become the far right nationalist party and USA becomes a proportional semi-parliamentary republic in 30-40 years
>>74796513
>trump losing his home state
>trump losing georgia
>trump losing any border state except maybe california
>trump winning pennsylvania
Shit map.
>>74806232
On the flipside, Trump can claim FL is his home state and say he'll win it lol
>>74796513
>blue georgia
>blue arizona
>blue virginia
Illinoisian here, fuck this state in the ASS. I hate it here so much, but can't wait for Mr. Trumps presidency and my departure from this shithole to an island in Florida.
>>74806232
>>trump losing his home state
NY was the second bluest state in 2012. It might be a little closer but he can't turn it red.
>>74804359
And the Bronx Republicans went for him 80+ percent I think. He doesn't need to win NYC, he just needs to get about 15% or so like the guy above me said and the upstate NY can put him over. Also remember that Trump is polling higher with black people than Mittens did and less blacks will be enthusiastic to vote since Obama isn't running, resulting in less turnout for Hillary's only electoral weapon.
>Arizona and Georgia
>blue
M8...
>>74796513
Iowa Michigan Ohio Pennsylvania North Carolina and Florida will all go for Hillary
Say it with me now
"President Hillary Rodham Clinton"
>>74796513
>Michigan
>Red
>Georgia
>Blue
>Trump losing home state
???
Screenshot it.
>>74807071
As a Trump supporter, that's a rather optimistic map for Trump. I think he will win, but not by that margin.
>>74803519
True, but considering that unions are dumping Hillary and going for Trump, black turnout being lower with Obama's absence and Trump polling higher with blacks than Romney, I think he's got a shot at MI. Romney lost by 400K votes, which sounds like a lot but I think those factors could swing it this year. Wisconsin is a similar state. Kerry beat Bush there by only 11,000 votes and the fact that unions are going for Trump is huge because they are the ultimate splitter of the white vote in my opinion. Republicans would have working class whites locked down nearly 100% if it weren't for unions pushing their members to vote Democrat and have their jobs outsourced anyway.
>>74807071
New Mexico New Hampshire and Iowa are locked up blue already
>>74806099
I just expect the Democrats to play a game where a Trump presidency would turn US allies into enemies and put a target on our backs. Expect a lot of "Daisy"-esque ads.
>>74807295
>New Mexico New Hampshire and Iowa are locked up blue already
Are you fucking retarded, New Mexico is the only definite blue one, the other two are swing states
>>74796647
Is that how much an American's vote counts for?
>>74807409
Yeah but its not going to work since we are in the age of the internet
>>74805648
I suspect we will see both the libertarian and green party pull above normal numbers this cycle.
If anyone will pull dems, its the green party, all the social justice bases covered, 75% less evil.
>>74807422
No they are definitely not
>>74807295
Nah, Romney lost Iowa by only 90,000 votes and he lost NH by only 40,000. Those states are too close to call right now in my opinion. I think that whites are going to unite behind Trump more than Romney and black turnout will be lower/will go with Trump at higher levels than Obama's opponents. New Mexico is pretty far-fetched though.
>>74807220
Yeah, I was being a tad bit overzealous, but Trump will win. By how much? I'm not sure.
>>74807645
I live in Iowa you dipshit, Hillary ain't too well liked here. We're not exactly a red state, but we certainly ain't solid blue!!
>>74807643
Well the libertarians can pull some dems too since Johnson is literally a younger Bernie Sanders
>>74807645
Not to mention republicans had a higher turnout in the Iowa caucuses than the democrats.
>>74806767
They're both in play
>>74807713
Romney is a New England native that's why he was able to do so well in New Hampshire
Farm subsidies have made Iowa solid blue and who are those voters who live off that gonna vote for?
A man in the pocket of no one or a woman in the pocket of Big Everything (Big Ag included)?
>>74807769
You are solid blue
Just because you and your friends put on white hoods and burn crosses on the weekends doesn't mean that everyone does that
>>74796513
Look for this come Nov. 8.
its gonna be this. probably even bluer with sanders.
>>74807996
Lol, KKK in Iowa? Please... We're not all rednecks like you people stereotype us to be. Most of us live in the cities. Also, Bernie is much more like in Iowa than Hillary, the primaries were just rigged obviously. Not that I care, since I support Trump, but still. People at my high school support Bernie, but when faced with the choice of Trump v Hillary, Trump typically is viewed more favorably.
>>74807629
Considering the Baby Boomers and Gen X are Trump's strongest constituencies and they aren't as big of internet users, these ads will prove effective.
>>74808270
Yes these ads are so effective when the news literally portrays Trump as the devil 24/7 so if you think this works than you must be thinking back in the 60's
>>74807996
I just don't get why Clinton supporters even come to /pol/. I think you meant to type in /lgbt/
>>74802127
bitch more trumpfag. he's not going to win and you all know it.
>>74808241
>at my high school
You have to be 18 to post here, kiddo
Also it's inconsequential what a bunch of high schoolers think seeing as 1)they're idiots and 2)they can't vote
>>74808193
best case scenario for Democrats
>>74808526
Lol, I can vote because I turn 18 before the election. Also, many high schoolers can vote "kiddo". BTFO Shillary fag
>>74808193
>even bluer with sanders.
Breh, nobody outside of college is voting for that senile cuck.
>>74808574
worst case scenario for democrats
>sanders supporters going for trump
>fucking ever
are you kidding me? look at their platforms and say that again looking in the mirror with a straight face. its not happening, the polls have been misinterpreted. i can guarantee you if any bernie supporters are actually going for trump, that number is below 20%. thats being generous.
>inb4 wooowooo the jewish boogyman has come look at the brainwashed liberal
>>74808420
They'll play Trump quotes like "We're gonna bomb the shit out of 'em" and quotes of the former Mexican president threatening war over the wall.
Trump's supporters will remain stalwart but these will be red flags for undecided voters.
>>74808691
>bernie beats trump by 10 points
>"KEK KEK"
>>74808724
Actually, polls were done in the Northeast that show 40% of Sanders supporters will go Trump. Nation wide, that number is lower, but still.
>>74808642
Pssh it's nothing personell but you are underage and need to go back to r.eddit
Leave the real discussion to the grown ups okay?
>>74808850
Why the fuck are fags like you on /pol/? If anyone, you are the one who belongs on reddit, not me. That's where all the libtards go.
>>74808812
You realize they play these quotes on the media every day and there is a 6% trust rating of the media but than again I am talking to a shill who is not aware they did the same thing to Reagan in 1980 16 years after Goldwater
>>74808822
Checked, but if he somehow secures the nomination and the GOP focuses their attention to attacking him, which they've yet to do, it's lights out. And that's excluding the stumping that Trump will give ol Bernie during their debates. The old fart would probably have a heart attack on stage.
Also,
>polls before candidates debate
>relevant
Pick one, or ask Presidents Dole, Gore, McCain, and Romney. Oh wait.
>>74808838
>actually, no!
let me rephrase that. It doesnt matter what poll was conducted. it is limited by sample size and just plain does not make sense. Think about why a sanders supporter would go for trump. now think about those poll results. its not going to happen.
>>74796513
Hillary: 320 minimum, probably 350+
Arizona is a toss up right now, and Pennsylvania leans Hillary.
Florida is blue for this election, as will be Michigan.
North Carolina will be fun to watch. It's a coin toss at the moment, but I think it'll tip blue by November.
Hillary will take Ohio.
Most interesting is if she selects Castro as VP. Texas will be in play then. The Castro family is well-connected and very well-respected as well as very politically astute.
I'm going to fucking lose my sides out beyond Alpha Centauri if Texas goes blue just to shit in tRump's face.
>>74808838
That sounds a whole lot like the cuckservatives who threatened to vote Clinton but are now falling in line for Trump.
Even if that 40% number is true, it will shrink dramatically.
>>74809059
A sanders supporter would go for Trump because of his anti-establishment and populist appeal. That combined with Hillary Clinton's scandals.
>>74809059
Yes because a supporter of an anti-establishment candidate will clearly go to the Establishment personified
>>74809074
Texasfag whose gf is from Florida, there's no way in fuck either state goes blue this election. Most people outside San Antonio think Castro is a closet fag and an opportunistic little shit. Florida is all aboard the Trump train.
Ohio and Pennsylvania will be the states to watch this election.
>Blue Arizona
>Blue Georgia
What the fuck are you doing nigger
>>74809074
How is florida going to be blue?
>>74809074
>Texas
>in play
God you're an idiot.
You have not the slightest of clue how American elections work do you kiddo?
Just stop posting it's embarrassing.
>>74803279
Apefrica is not that christian. The major cities are but the wilderness worships ooga booga gods
realistically speaking trump has to win all the major bluecollar states and so called purple states that are long ago in the democrats pocket
>>74799216
They need IDs.
>>74809074
>Arizona
>going blue
gave me a good chuckle
The problem with Trump is that he needs to win whites by margins that Reagan was never able to pull off, AND he needs white turnout to return to at least 2000 levels. Can he? It's possible. The problem is that whatever he's gained among white disaffected working class voters who stayed at home instead of voting for neocon cucks, he's at least partially lost with the old Christfag base who will stay home because he's neutral on gays and trannies.
>>74796747
That's literally the only sane part of this entire map...
>>74800143
>Hillary having a shot at states with voter ID laws
doubtful
>>74808724
ABC/Cuckington Post Poll had young voters going 45 to Clinton and 42 to Trump
pretty surprising this early on
>>74809280
He's a complete idiot or troll.
Cruz could be Hillary's VP and Texas still wouldn't be in play.
Florida could go either way as always. Florida will be the decider as always regardless of how trump does in the North East.
Its pretty much impossible to lose california and florida, and win.
t.
>>74809141
>>74809185
this is not what the election is about. a liberal will not find
>womens rights
>college loan reform
>racial equality
>lgbt rights
>minimum wage increases
or anything else typically associated with a democratic vote. just because "the estabishment is bringing us down" is not going to be enough to swing the vote toward a fucking idiot.
Gary! Johnson takes His home state as well as "We're a red state on every issue, but DUDE WEED LMAO", Whilst trump takes every state that only goes blue because of unions, which allows for trump to win an electoral landslide.
>>74808724
The crossover between Sanders and Trump are they are both protest candidates, and as an added bonus, they identify the same problems with opposite philosophies on how to handle them. I wouldn't be surprised if half either; switch sides, vote third party (green or lib) or simply stay home.
>>74808931
You're the one who lives in a deep blue cuck state
>>74809676
Sanders voters =/= traditional liberals
>>74809012
I support Trump. I'm not a shill, I'm a realist. If Romney got destroyed over one comment about "the 47%," how can Trump overcome everything he's said and the endless barrage of attack ads from the wealthy Goldbergsteinowitzes who don't want him in power?
They aren't going to pussyfoot their attack ads like the Republicans did. They're going to have crying little Hispanic children saying they don't want to see their dad get deported. They'll have Holocaust survivors comparing Trump to Hitler. If you really think this isn't going to affect the election, at least with the impressionable female voters, I have bad news.
>>74809728
Oh and Hilary takes ohio because moderates such as those that supported Kasich will go out and vote for hillary.
>>74809889
>I support Trump but he will lose
Every fucking time
You aren't fooling anyone you know
>>74809728
This would be better if third parties causes a ~260 split and the vote went to congress. Trump wins and the electoral college is put on review.
>>74807071
>Hawaii
>New Mexico
>Iowa
>Nevada
>Colorado
>Virginia
top meme
>>74809865
you dont swing far left only to compromise with the republican nominee. its not going to happen.
>Republicans need to win 3 swing states and then some to win by a hair
>Democrats need Florida to win
why is this allowed
>>74807864
>Johnson is literally a younger Bernie Sanders
no
>>74810058
Yes because all Sanders are liberals despite most of them being indepents or a significant chunk being part of the Rust belt (which Hillary will totally get due to her nice comments about the coal miners and her support for job saving trade deals like NAFTA and TPP)
>>74809074
>Making some literally who beta male VP is going to help take Texas
Sure thing
>>74810167
I just want to let you know I'll be lurking here to watch you face roll your keyboard when Trump loses and the shitstorm hits. If you accept the inevtiable sooner you may still be able to take some of my satisfaction away.
>>74809074
Hillary won't take Ohio if Kasich gets aboard the Trump train, especially as VP. She might as well stop shilling in Ohio.
>>74810364
Yes just like he was inevitably going to lose the primaries
>>74807629
65+ voters make up the majority of the voting public
your gay MAGA memes aren't getting to them. I know it's hard to believe people aren't in your gay /pol/ and the_donald echochamber, but they aren't
>>74810482
>65+ voters
Well thank god they're dying
>using gay as an insult
underage get out
>>74797331
Clinton won GA in '92 senpai
>>74809984
You really think a population of 70% women and non-whites will go for Trump?
Demographics, polling statistics, the Electoral College at this point all favor Hillary. My analysis may change closer to the election, as Hillary is indeed running a shitty campaign while Trump is running a hands-dirty smear campaign that is working wonders.
>>74810385
Anon, I think the keyword there is 'if'
>>74810659
The general election didn't even start yet so statistics now are useless till after the conventions
