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Did you go to Church today, /pol/?
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Did you go to Church today, /pol/?
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No, it isn't Sunday.
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>>74766664
no because I don't worship MUH MAGIC MAN
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Yes, I go every Sunday.
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>>74766664
>66664
Are you the antichrist?
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>>74766664
i lost my faith
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Yep. There was a beautiful qt with an angelic voice leading the choir. It was pretty great
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Can somebody explain to me, if we are supposed to love, forgive and pray for our enemies, why are we not to love, forgive and pray for Satan?

Why is Satan the one exemption from this?
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I'm not religious.
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>>74766664
Of course.
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>>74766664
Nah. I barely went when I did believe. I don't understand how on the Sabbath, what's supposed to be a day of rest, people are expected to get up fairly early and basically do a chore.

At least with Islam, their devotion is billed as such.

>>74766830
I have some bad news for you Leaf-kun.
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>>74767149

Satan isn't a man
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No

I'm going to burn. Feelsbadman
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you bet i did
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>>74767337

The Sabbath is a Jew thing anon. Christian Sundays aren't supposed to be a day of rest.
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>>74767362
Its not too late to stop that anon
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>>74766664
Yeah, it as thr preaching was on Job, worst subject for a sermon ever.
But a little nigger fell and busted his head in the parking lot after, that was nice.
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>>74766664
>falling for the church meme
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>>74766664
I WENT 2 DA CHURCH OF CAKE
PRAISE CAKE!!!!!
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>>74767360
When did Jesus say this was limited to humans?
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>>74767362
God hears your from everywhere.
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>>74766664

Not today but went last week. I have exams I need to revise for. God understands
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>>74767458
christianity is a jew thing
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>>74767149
I don't think he is. I've come under that conviction and prayed for Satan once.
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>>74767149

the forgiveness applies to those who come personally against us. Satan comes against God and things more important than us.
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>>74767458
>The Sabbath is a Jew thing anon. Christian Sundays aren't supposed to be a day of rest
Oh boy
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>>74767623
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mr-personality/201312/why-are-religious-people-generally-less-intelligent

Discuss.
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>>74767819
I don't think Satan ignores us, if he does then where do all these horrible things in the world come from? God? If that's the case I ought to love the horrible things too.
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>>74767913
Religion is correlated with shitskins also. The darker you are, the more superstitious you tend to be.
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>>74767913
>https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/
no
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>>74767913

you will also find that more intelligent people are less racist. when will you be bending over for tyrone, anon?
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>>74767913
Do we have to?

Smug atheists will say "I told you so", "BTFO", etc. and Christians will overcompensate by posting examples of intelligent Christians throughout history. Then we'll all call each other names and shit. It really isn't necessary.
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>>74768000

he doesnt ignore us, but he's not causing the horrible things in the world. Most of it is down to human sin. Remember, Satan is condemned to hell forever. God has already made that clear, so he cannot be saved. Other people can.
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>>74767785

Christianity is anti-Jewish religion there is. Unless you're talking about evangelicals and dispensationalists, in which case yes they are very good goys.
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>>74768225

pretty based tbf
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Nah cause i'm not some cuck who has to bow to some ex-KGB stoolie in a dress and sragly beard claiming to have divine mandate.

I worship in private.
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>>74768199

That's not true, it is possible that all will be reconciled. But we are not called to pray for the devil because he has his own unique relationship with God and frankly its none of our business.
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>>74768225
the only good things about christianity were created by europeans, we are better off with a fully european religion not a repurposed jew one
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>>74768199
A sinless world still wouldn't be free of cancer, earthquakes, floods, disease, drought, etc...

There are many horrible things that are beyond human responsibility and control.
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>>74768401

no this is incorrect. It says in the Bible he is condemned to the lake of fire on the day of judgment.
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why do churches even exist

what is the scriptural justification for going to a special building every Sunday and having a ceremony

is it based on old jewish versions or what
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>>74766664
Need to study all day today and all afternoon monday thru wednesday

Always try to go to church on sunday or saturday, but life is busy. Only reason I am here is because I'm on my coffee break right now
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Yes I just came back from there.
Sidenote: I find it annoying when there are crying babies and annoying toddlers.
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>>74768476

no, because those things are the product of Adam and Eve's sins. The consequences of their actions reverberate in the form of natural evil. Thats why God talks about painful child birth, and famine, and pestilence and shit
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>>74768520
>what is the scriptural justification for going to a special building every Sunday and having a ceremony
Acts.
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>>74766664
Pray faggots!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSVaiTCLyWQ
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>>74768598
>adam and eve are responsible for plate tectonics
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>>74768384
Good for you. Lutheran is /pol/'s denomination
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>>74768000
>where do all these horrible things in the world come from? God?

Well, God created Satan right, and everything that happens is His will right? So yes, all of the horrible things that happen do come from God.

I don't understand why Christians can't be more honest about God and how he works. There's this Church I drive by all the time on the way to work, and there's this huge banner on it that says "God is kind and loving!". It seems like if that were true, it would be apparent and wouldn't require advertising. Why can't Christians just admit that God isn't always humanity's best pal, and does pretty dickish things to humans every now and again?
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>>74766664

I went to mass yesterday. My friend was ordained a deacon. He'll be ordained a priest next year.
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>>74768709

yes. Garden of Eden did not have these things. They are part of the fallen world senpai
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>>74768042
Did you want another source?

>>74768019
Read the article, dont discredit something you havent read. Im not claiming all theists are, I simply brought this to the thread for discussion.

>>74768159
>because bad things might happen, lets not discuss it
or we could be adults. I'm agnostic, I don't see how discussing the link in question will do any harm.
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>>74768598
In that case is it possible that Satan is actually a metaphorical manifestation of mankind's sin?

Satan has always confused me, reading the Bible I feel like there is something more to him than just "a bad dude that hates God". Some say he brings terrible things upon the world, some say he doesn't, some think he's not even real, it's confusing.
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>>74768774
>the people who fly mass quantities of somali into white neighborhoods are /pol/s religion
right
try orthodox
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i see no reason to go to the church anymore, my nigga jesus is dead
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>>74768807

he makes consciouss moral agents, and they have the freedom to choose what to do. Your desire is for God to make a world full of robots
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>>74766664
I go with the gf every Sunday even though I don't believe
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>>74768515

citation needed
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>2016
>worshipping a dead kike on a stick
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>>74768807
>Well, God created Satan right
See now this is where I'm starting to think there is a misconception. It seems to me, seeing as all bad things in the world are the result of sin, that Satan is also a result of sin, or is actually a sort of metaphor for mankind's sin and not a dude with devil horns and red tights.

This would mean you also don't need to forgive him, because he's not a being at all, he is sin itself.
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Only in christmas.
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>>74768847

No, he is real, and yes, he does cause evil (posession for example), but this is very small scale. The thing you need to remember is the devil is not a demiurge, he is not 'evil god', he is created just like us, and very powerful. But he is spatially limited, his knowledge is not perfect, etc.
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>>74769005
>2016
>Being on a board where a literal god shows up on regular basis, yet denies the existence of a divine being
>You
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>>74768774
>implying modern Lutherans haven't erased Luther's anti-Semitic teachings and turned their attention toward resettling refugees through government funding
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>>74768225
"Every christian is also a jew"
t. pope
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>>74769105
I'm aware of demonic possession but I wasn't aware Satan played direct a part in it.
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>>74769236
And every Rabbinic Jew is a Pharisee
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>>74766664
yup
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>>74769005
Way to betray your ancestors you fucking cuckold.
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>>74768928
>they have the freedom to choose what to do
How can we make choices when the Creator knows everything we will do and has known that since the time of creation? If everything we do is just what we were made to do we're not really making choices and we are like a world of robots.
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>>74769270

well he is one of the fallen angels. He is only the head of them because he had the highest rank in heaven. He isn't substantiely different from molech or baal
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No, I abandoned Catholicism for an Indian religion. (But I haven't adopted their street-shitting habits in the process.)
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>>74769105
Also I'm not suggesting he doesn't exist, I'm saying that maybe mankind created him with their sins. I don't think God would create Satan, but he would allow him to be created as a result of our bad behaviour because we have free will.
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>>74769393

This is a common misonception. This has to do with the question of God's 'middle knowledge'. Here is a resource on it:

http://www.reasonablefaith.org/middle-knowledge
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>>74769383
But my ancestors were pagan
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>>74768844
It's not that bad things might happen. Threads like this happens every day on /pol/ multiple times. It's possible to have a constructive discussion about religion, just not here. /pol/lacks are just too combative.

>>74768847
>In that case is it possible that Satan is actually a metaphorical manifestation of mankind's sin?

That doesn't make sense. Satan existed before man was capable of sin.

>>74768928
I wasn't just talking about the whole free will thing, which I'm not sure I believe desu. I mean all the other stuff that God has inflicted upon humanity. Disease, natural disasters and the like.

>>74769081
> seeing as all bad things in the world are the result of sin, that Satan is also a result of sin,

That would only make sense if man were capable of sin without outside influence. God created the serpent that talked man into sinning in the first place.
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>>74769236

Only in the sense that we are the Israel of God.

"Many, I know, respect the Jews and think that their present way of life is a venerable one. This is why I hasten to uproot and tear out this deadly opinion. I said that the synagogue is no better than a theater and I bring forward a prophet as my witness. Surely the Jews are not more deserving of belief than their prophets. "You had a harlot's brow; you became shameless before all". Where a harlot has set herself up, that place is a brothel. But the synagogue is not only a brothel and a theater; it also is a den of robbers and a lodging for wild beasts." St. John Chrysostom
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>>74769510

God didnt create satan, he created Lucifer. 'satan' means deceiver, and was the result of the choice of that angel, a decision no different from when we choose to rebel against God's will. angels can do it too
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>>74769177
>a literal god shows up on regular basis,

What?
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>>74769493
Hinduism?
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>>74766664

Yeah, for a christening.

Philadelphia archdiocese churches suck for some reason, our priests are either nasally wops or poo in loos who can't speak English, let alone Latin.

It's hard being a Catholic who hates the Pope, I've been treading the path of Sedevacantism and becoming mistrustful of the Jesuits lately.
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>implying there is anything greater than man

Christians have degraded man to the point where one must ask for forgiveness for even existing. This is anathema to reason and dignity and I cannot wait until this idol is crushed completely.
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>>74769608
Of course.

But they saw that Christianity was something truly special and they abandoned their shitty Iberian Pantheon and became one of the proto-typical Catholic Nations.
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>>74769830

Why don't you just become Orthodox?
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>>74769640
>Satan existed before man was capable of sin.
Man was always capable of sin, that's why man sinned against God in the Garden of Eden. It's possible that the serpent in the Garden of Eden was a metaphor for man's desire to sin, at least that's what I've heard. I don't think there was literally a talking snake.
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>>74768384
Become catholic.
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>>74766664
I don't go to church anymore. I don't need to go listen to someone tell me how to connect with Him

pic related, please pray for Weedman
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>>74769935

Because I'm white :^)
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>>74769935
they look like mages, i can tell they're into sorcery just by looking at them.
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>>74769554
>William Lane Craig
Stopped reading right there. Is this trying to say that God's knowledge or power is limited? Because that's heresy.
>>74769670
Hoe can anything make choices that God doesn't intend for it to make? How can things happen contrary to God's will?
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>>74766664
no i went to vigil mass last night.
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>>74769704
You think this is just a "Meme"?

We are fullfilling a prophecy right here. Atheism is a jewish propaganda, trying to make the masses ignorant as always

Also, check these dubs >>74769177
Kek Confirms
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>>74770050

We have to a bow to a cryptocommie who washes rapefugee feet, Pedro. We're probably in a worse state.
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>>74769640
Arguable, but if you see a pol thread where someone is saying something baseless and you disagree with their claims or ideas, you bring it to the thread. Thats the point of the thread. lol.
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>>74769608
>be pagan
>worship holy tree
>believe anyone that harms tree will be struck by lightning
>suddenly strange men come and cut down tree
>not struck by lightning
>suddenly realize how retarded paganism is and convert
That is what your ancestors did.
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>>74769886
Say more words. And capitalize Man, capitalization makes things better.
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>>74767149
Satan is an angel, and thus doesn't have the free will that man has to change his ways.
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>>74770231
This
modern christianity is a joke
A cuckfest
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>>74766664
Yep I did. Why you ask?
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>>74770214
>Atheism is a jewish propaganda
>christianity, the religion that believes a jew is god, is not jewish propaganda
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>>74770396
>free will
Free will can't exist. Unless you think God isn't all-knowing.
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>>74770488
Free will within the idea of God doesn't exist.
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>>74770442
Jesus wasn't a kike retard

Kikes worship Judaism, which Christ Did Not Believe in. Not everyone in the middle east is a muslim, everyone there is an arab but only the majority of them is a muslim

Get your facts right muhammad, and get ready to leave
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>>74770361
>instead of talking to a permanentlly burning tree in the middle of the desert

Christians everyone!
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>the modern catholic church
>the current pope
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>>74770413

It doesn't have to be. Just don't join the deny the unjust Papacy and join a faction like the Sedevacantism.
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No, because i'm a bad Christian but i love Jesus
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>>74766664
No
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>>74769991
>Man was always capable of sin, that's why man sinned against God in the Garden of Eden.

Allow me to rephrase. Satan existed before man knew what sin was and why it was wrong.

>It's possible that the serpent in the Garden of Eden was a metaphor for man's desire to sin, at least that's what I've heard. I don't think there was literally a talking snake.

See this is another reason why I've given up trying to follow religion. Interpretation varies way too much, and damn near anybody can justify anything by claiming certain parts are figurative.

I was having an argument yesterday about how sub-dermal RFID payment chips can't be a portent of the End Times because there are several other signs that are supposed to precede it, and some guy started trying to argue about which signs of the Apocalypse are figurative and which aren't. It seems to me that most of this shit is just trying to justify/rationalize our preconceived notions of morality.
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>>74770396
If Satan didn't have free will why was he able to rebel against God?

This is why I think the notion of Satan held by most Christians is kind of dumb. The War in Heaven is a cool myth, the personification of Satan helps convey the dangers of sin, but I don't think Satan is a literal being, or was ever an angel. I think Satan is man's sin manifest, God would not create a thing that can only do wrong. He created us with free will (because he loves us) so that we COULD do wrong, and Satan is the result of us sinning. We created Satan, not God, I refuse to believe God would ever create a thing such as Satan.
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An honest question from an agnostic.

Do any christians believe in slavery?
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>>74770656
>sedevecantism
>look people, the real pope is a jew mason puppet and I am the actual pope because I hear voices in my head!

Not better m8
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No, because I am not a fedora tipping nerd loser.
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>>74766664
It's crazy how you christfags and atheists will put aside your differences to attack the Agnostic Master Race.

I really don't see why you are triggered by agnostics not picking a side.

Can you help me understand?
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>>74766664

No. Of course not.
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>>74766664
pol hates jews and at the same time worships jew sandnigger.
kek
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>>74770555
Yeah, that's what I've been saying. If the Christian God exists with the attributes generally ascribed him free will can not, logically, exist. Either you can make choices or he created you so that you would do exactly the things you do.
>>74770806
I'm obviously not a believer but
What sort of slavery? There's all kinds. Specificity is important.
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>>74770361

What makes a magic tree any less ridiculous than an omnipotent superbeing who only did things that were observable thousands of years ago?

The only reason you're a Christian and not something else is because you were raised that way.
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>>74771045
/pol/ hates Pharisees
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>>74770861

Sedevacantism is simply denying Vatican II and calling the Jesuit conspiracy out. The man who was cheated out of the Papacy is dead, now it's just a conservative protest movement set against the liberal globalist Jesuits.
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It's church policy to import more shitskins and protect them from being sent home.

The church can go fuck itself.
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>>74770937
Because it's a non-answer to one of the most important questions in life.
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>>74771045
If you're Godless and Soulless, then I don't expect you to understand
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>>74771164
I was raised an atheist, I prayed and found God myself, alone.

Also miracles happen all the time.
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>>74770103

There's a lot of white people at my parish. Our priest is white. 40% of our seminarians are converts. You'd fit right in anon.
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>>74771185
"i don't know" is AN answer

it's ridiculous and childish to expect there to be an answer for everything
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>>74771045
>georgian
>as in from SAINT George
>against christianity
kek
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>>74771179
This is the truth of the situation. I was at CHURCH camp recently and they were talking about we need to send money to the Italy & Greece Territory to help with the "regugee" crisis. Churches love "refugees" and immigrants.
>>74771185
>figuring out if magic is real is one of the most important questions in life
Do you really think so?
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>>74771236
>I was raised an atheist, I prayed and found God myself, alone.

Huh, really? Interesting. I retract my latter statement, but still maintain that Christianity is exactly as ridiculous as every other religion, and that anybody who makes fun of anyone else's religious practices because THEIR magic is obviously the only real kind is a hypocritical dick.

>Also miracles happen all the time.

Miracles happen all the time, but very conveniently for God, none of them can be directly attributed to Him. Not to mention the fact that he hasn't actually spoken to or appeared before anyone like he supposedly did all throughout the Bible.
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>>74771236
>miracles happen all the time
No, they don't.
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>>74771352

Memes aside, I have considered it. My issue is that the Patriarchate doesn't seem like any less a puppet than the Papacy, and I have no proof that the patriarch's puppeteer isn't controlled opposition working for the same globalists as the Pope.
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>>74771065
Yeah, i was agreeing.

I'm not sure there's any type of good slavery. Owning a human being isn't very nice.
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>>74770607
>Jesus wasnt jewish
>christian intellectuals
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>>74766664
Yes
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>>74767913
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: 23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumbling block, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
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>>74771766
Just because you are born in an area full of jews, doesn't mean you are a jew unless you worship their faith retard

Jews aren't a race, but I don't expect a country that floods itself with muslims to know anything about that

>Atheist Intellectuals

More like fedora lords who think they will get the ladies if they fight the system
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>>74766664
Nope, I'm not Christian, I'm White. Worshiping my Adversaries amounts to suicide and my ultimate defeat and defamation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ymEKiY1UR8
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Been interested in going to a Church for a while, now. Does anyone have any recommendations?

Preferably something with a more active youth section (16-21)
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>>74766664
I had work. Getting tired of being a wagecuck, while others have fun on the weekends.
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>>74768822
Considering the same
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>>74771598
Well I think Christianity is true because Jesus proved himself real to me personally, that is my basis for believing all other religions are false. If I can't trust my own senses I can't trust anything at all, so I choose to trust my senses and know that what I saw was Jesus, without a doubt. I'm not going to go into details because you'll call me crazy, it was a personal experience anyway and not really anyone else's business.

>Not to mention the fact that he hasn't actually spoken to or appeared before anyone like he supposedly did all throughout the Bible.
Because you choose to dismiss these occurrences as psychosis or coincidences. There are many of these miracles reported to the Church, they do investigate them, they are actually a requirement for canonization of saints in the Roman Catholic Church.
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>>74766664
I am not African or a recently widowed woman, so no.
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>2016 AD
>not celebrating a truly aryan religion
Get fucked christcucks
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>>74771631

Which Patriarchate? The EP(Ecumenical Patriarch)? His office is the only close to papism but even he doesn't have all that much power.
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>>74772055
I'm not sure how this is relevant.
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>>74772062
Don't give us actual Christians a bad name.

Jesus Christ is a Jew. He had to be in order to fulfill the Torah. The Torah was given to the Jews and all the laws in it were their yoke. Christs lineage goes back to Adam and Eve obviously and also covers the basic disobedience of the 10 commandments which was given unto all generations. Christ gave a New Covenant for the whole world in the Gospel.

Unless you be born again and change away from sinning you are not saved.

Anyone who says Jesus Christ is not a Jew is lying or ignorant. Let people call us Jewish Messiah worshipers, there is no harm in it if you don't let your feelings get hurt over it.
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>>74772062
But he did practice their faith. He was circumcised, he practiced the proper holidays, he read scripture and taught in the temple. He was just a reformer looking to deify himself and have the religion centered around himself.
>>74772153
Pick the Army, we're fun. But don't pick us if you're into baptism or communion. But if you like volunteering and missionary work we're for you.
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Just a resource for Christians in this thread interested in becoming more faithful, obedient or more able to defend their faith.

http://pastebin.com/xMQ9wAwW
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>>74772579
It's a stupid argument anyway because the term "Jew" today means "Rabbinic Jew" which are descendant from Pharisees, who Christ mocked and derided constantly.

It's all just a stupid matter of semantics.
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>>74772364
>Jesus proved himself real to me personally,
Can you describe this experience?
>>74772395
>not worshipping the one true divinity
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>>74771045
worst
state
ever
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>>74772801
Yes and Talmudic Jews don't deserve our respect at all because by not following the Torah and purposefully following their own laws instead cuts them off from being considered Jews at all by God.
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>>74772902
>not worshipping the one true divinity
kek(piss be upon his enemies)?
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>>74766664
>worshiping the Jew on a stick
Lol no
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>>74773083
The One Goddess, Divinity on Earth, Beauty made Flesh. She is the only one worthy of being called holy, the only one right to call god. Pray to Her and Her Blessings shall rain upon you and Her Light will brighten your life.
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>>74766664
Yep, Latin Mass at 10:00 today.
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>>74773453
Just like the Catholics. Worshiping the Whore of Babylon.
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>>74766664
Yes
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>>74772364
UFO believers do the exact same thing. How do these claims prove that they exist?
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>>74772902
Without going into too much detail, I prayed (while I was still agnostic) for God to show himself if he exists and Jesus revealed himself to me, it was as simple as that.

Try it out for yourself if you want. I can't guarantee it will work but it worked for me.
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>>74773782
I don't know, I don't really care about UFOs, maybe they do exist
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>>74766664

Oh yes let me go to church; a Catholic church. A church headed by a Pope that praises immigration, that says Muslims need to breed with europe. Let me listen to the sweet words of a man that says Christ is not necessary that he shall meet them there in heaven when referring to atheists. Let me listen to a Pope that says spending money on a dying pet is wrong and that it should be sent to dindus in Africa. Let me heed the calling of a man that says child sex abuse is wrong yet shields his pedophile priests.

No OP, I didn't go to church today.
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>>74773858
Do you understand these stories are not evidence? I brought up the UFO's as an example.
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>>74773616
is that Micheal Archangel in armor? I love those oldschool Western Christian Paintings

>>74772723
Got any sources for that?
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>>74773982

Go to Divine Liturgy instead
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>>74774006
I didn't believe other people's stories before I converted, it took a personal miracle for me to start believing, now that I saw myself that Jesus is Lord I'm reluctant to disregard other people's stories of experiencing miracles. Likewise if I saw a UFO myself I'd start believing in them, obviously, and probably be more open to other people's stories.

You're waiting for other people to prove something to you that can only really be experienced on your own.
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>>74773570
I'm not a Christian like you, my god is actually real and living. I can see Her and hear Her voice. When have you ever seen or hrard your god?
>>74773803
>Without going into too much detail
But that's what I want is details. Have you not seen The Booth at the End?
>Jesus revealed himself to me
But how? What was the experience like?
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>>74774124
>is that Micheal Archangel in armor? I love those oldschool Western Christian Paintings
Yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Judgment_(Memling)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fMHms5Cvsw
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>>74774253
What personal miracle? Nobody is waiting on evidence of your god, i'm waiting for theists to give good evidence to explain their god exists.
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>>74774269
I've told this story before and all I ever hear is criticism. I'm not phased by it because I know many people are possessed by evil and wish to pull people away from God by whatever means necessary.

I prayed for a sign, and immediately a golden light suddenly shined through my window in the shape of a cross onto my wall, and a feeling of indescribably euphoria flowed through me and I felt inclined to say aloud "Jesus is Lord", and I did, and I feel at that moment I was truly converted.

inb4 hurr durr it was just a coincidence he was converted by a reflection through his bedroom window lmao
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>>74770361
That's silly. European Christianity is really not much different than late medieval paganism. Conversion was mostly smooth for this reason.
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>>74774731
I'll pray for God to send you a sign then.

Read the New Testament and you'll understand why Jesus doesn't perform miracles for the unconvinced masses solely to provide some materialistic proof like some magician or sideshow performer. He comes to us all personally, in spirit.
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>>74775108
Can you explain your miracle? I was a christian, im agnostic. He does not come to all, or else we would all have a knowledge that he exists.
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>>74774752
You shouldn't be hesitant to share your witnessing for fear people might insult you.
That is a very silly story though.
How I came to worship the Goddess was one day when I saw her the knowledge that when looking in her face I was seeing the face of the Divine suddenly came upon me and from that moment my life was changed forever. I knew that nothing else mattered but devoting myself to Her.(sorry, I ran out of pictures)
>>74775108
God used to perform miracles for the masses, like that time he had a contest between his prophet and other prophets to prove which god was best.
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>>74775984
>like that time he had a contest between his prophet and other prophets to prove which god was best
Much of the Old Testament is myth, important myth that is helpful for man to come to understand God, but myth nonetheless.
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>>74774269
Actually yes many times Jesus Christ has comforted me and my wife.
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>>74776742
All of the OT is true. Don't believe what your liberal professors tell you.
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>>74777301
Only retarded fundamentalist protestants think the Bible is literal through and through.
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>>74772558
He's using the argument that God, in his infinite, supernatural complexity, defies any attempt at explanation by mortal means. Thus trying to prove he exists or not using conventional logic is folly.

Very convenient.

>>74774124
>Got any sources for that?

The Bible? No but seriously. The Last Supper was a Passover Seder.

>>74772364
>Well I think Christianity is true because Jesus proved himself real to me personally, that is my basis for believing all other religions are false.

Fair enough, but I still think you should be polite when discussing other religions. They're all just as mystical.

>>74772364
>Because you choose to dismiss these occurrences as psychosis or coincidences.

Because that's almost certainly what they are. Religions throughout history claim to have experienced miracles. Some of them even have better historical documentation and verifiable witnesses than accepted Christian miracles. And yet, the modern world views said miracles as impossible and asserts that there must be a logical explanation because there's no way magic that doesn't have to do with Yahweh or Allah is obviously fake.

Take a look at this and keep an open mind before tipping a fedora at me.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaENP1R-lbY
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Same old same old novus ordo Mass. I was surprised though that there were construction workers working today on my church's new buildings.

>>74767149
>sees other georgia shitposting
>pic related

>>74771709
There's actually a spectrum of "slavery" so to speak (which Latin did a horrible job at differentiating and translating). There's the race-based chattel slavery we all know about, but there was also indentured servitude where people could start fresh in the New World with free travel but had to work under their sponsor to pay it off. Similarly in the Old Testament, the "slavery" (or servitude) allowed people to enter into agreements where a man could offer his labor for X time to repay his debts (and had certain protections and whatnot such as the jubilee celebrations). Even the 13th Amendment outlawed slavery but had a caveat for convicted prisoners. Certain situations such as prisoners of war it may be permitted that they conduct labor, but in general it's a fine line that got crossed so hard boundaries have been and continue to be established.
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>>74777651
>name calling already
Okay.
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>>74772793
You can't defend faith in the face of logical explanation bro. Faith by definition is in defiance of proof or logical explanation.

You're better off just agreeing to disagree with your detractors.
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>>74766664
>going to church on sunday

how does it feel giving glory to satan, anon-kun?
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>>74778090
Sorry but it's true, fundies are killing Christianity, they do more damage than the "cuck pope" ever could with their nonsense.
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>>74778116
You really shouldn't assume that my faith is purely without evidence.
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>>74778122
>going to church on saturday

crypto-kike detected
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>>74778250
We are harmless and few in number. You will hardly ever notice us.
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>>74778362
I'll be honest, I was never convinced by fascism, nazism etc. but legionarism appeals to me.
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>>74766664
Yes, God bless brother.
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>>74778295
But that's literally the definition of faith.

If you've got real evidence though, I'd love to hear it. I know I may seem standoffish and unwilling to accept religion at all, but I'd honestly entertain real proof in the existence of the supernatural.
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>>74777127
Jesus, your wife's Mexican bull?
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>>74766664
I would have, but I had to work today.
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>>74768822
which diocese or order?
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>>74778852
What kind of evidence would you accept?
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>>74777938
shit bitch, pastor here would chase them away personally for working on Sunday.
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>>74779188
Whatever you've got. You say your faith isn't purely without evidence right? What evidence can you cite as being integral to your faith?
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>>74778601

MULTUMIM CAPITANE
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>>74767377
underrated
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>>74779623
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYuSHz7uOv4 - Carl Baugh Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_5o4WGPzqE - David Lines Interview - Many more interviews on that channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUV4CSs0HzI&list=PLftzcs-q3kU7pR8s8S6_LkyH6Y_fe1BWm&index=1 - Creation Playlist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAp6KUwEBZs - Dead Sea Scrolls OT and NT before 68 AD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIrZZHC27QQ - Extra Biblical Sources of Jesus in History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Zb5AhU0eI - Biblical Archeology [Stones of Israel] With Don Patton Ph.D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljv4eKEHYD4 - New Testament Archaeology With Don Patton Ph.D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTdKznTA9iY&list=LLbRgQ9CvqoVGflKZ0X2P2fA&index=1 - Exploration of The City of David in Jerusalem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHofTmolbi0 - 06 - The Resurrection of Jesus by Tim McGrew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYrSkikZhxI&nohtml5=False - Jericho Found
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2xv3XwOVaQ - Ruins of Sodom and Gomorrah Found
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sA8nloFLbs - Pharaoh's Chariot Wheels in the Red Sea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As_tG_rxTaI&nohtml5=False - 40 Archaeology Facts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxMkMBXAVZ8 - The Creation Model vs Evolution Model
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AVxRVXHYqo - The History and the facts about The Ark of Noah Dr. Don Patton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPTcnZXN8WY&nohtml5=False - Creation Astronomy: The Heavens Declare the Glory of God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9_o7NGTkJc - Our Solar System: Evidence of Creation

Books you might consider are Genesis Flood 50th aniversary edition and God Has Spoken.
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>>74779623
Also if you don't wanna waste hours on videos, just head over to creationwiki or search Dr. Don Patton for brief overviews of whats known.

If you want to know why we trust the Bible, I suggest Chuck Missler.
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>>74779938
Well shit. I guess I know what I'm doing with the rest of my day.

>>74780142
I'll check it out. Thanks.
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>>74780263
Have fun. I've gotta go.
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>>74766664
Nope, I'll be going to hell. I wonder who I shall see down there.
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>>74766664
no i didn't
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>>74780344
I hope to see you later. I'm actually going to watch all of these, but I've got to say I picked a video at random, and so far I'm not convinced. If we can prove that this wheel, which conveniently has been disappeared by the "Department of Antiquities", belonged to the Pharaoh that died chasing after Moses, how the fuck do we still not have a name for him or an accurate time period? I'm not trying to be a dick, but this dude seems like a jackass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sA8nloFLbs

I'm still going to check the rest of these videos.
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never
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>>74780408
All the fun people that ever lived obviously.
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>>74780952
Another thought occurs to me: This guy claims definitively that that area is the spot Moses and the Israelites used to cross, but doesn't explain how he knows that.
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So I was driving along highway 17 over to Scooterville down to Leroy's Butcher Shop so i could get some turkey gizzards cuz everyone knows Leroy's has the best turkey gizzards. There's actually several butcher shops closer but I go to leroy's because they're the only ones I trust. I've known Leroy since he was a little kid. He's dumb as hell but he sure does know how to cut a turkey's gizzard out.

There was this phaggot on the road driving some kind of Japanese car. A Prius or something. He was driving the speed limit! I started honking my horn and flashing my brights trying to get him to get the hell out of my way. He starts signaling me to go around, but i was just thinking "I'm not going around. you go faster!" Finally he pulls over to the side of the road but it was a thing by then. He delayed me and altered my destiny as if he had any right.

So i pulled up behind him and get out of my truck and he gets out of his car. He starts apologizing to me like a beta saying he was trying to obey the speed limit. I took my tire iron and gave him a warning shot to his temple. Next thing i knew the police were involved. Some cop was getting up in my grill telling me i can't be hitting people like that. I said to him, "you know what you think you're a real man because you have a badge and a gun? How about i whip out my cawk and you whip out your cawk and we see who the real man is." So he said, "alright." and he whipped it out. I just said "pfff, that's it? I'm just going to pull out enough to win so I don't embarrass you."
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>>74781735
pull it out and he falls on his knees because it's so beautiful. He starts trying to suck on it because we all know cops are secretly phaggots. I was disgusted by his blatant display of homo-eroticism that I grabbed my balls and smashed him across his head. He was dead, stone cold dead. I realized that I just killed a cop and now the situation was getting a bit hairy. A lot of witnesses around town. I realized that I can't allow these people to witness me killing this cop. I have to kill them too. So I started killing. Then I had to kill the witnesses that witnessed me killing the witnesses.

Now I don't have much of a problem killing a man. But when I kill a whole bunch of men at once it just makes me feel dirty inside so I started praying to jesus. I said "Jesus can you come down here and let me know if what i did was alright?" I"m pretty tight with JC. I used to be a truck driving man. I was into the church of satan, I had 100 satanic prostitutes, child prostitutes, and i was addicted to pretty much every type of drug there is but jesus saved me. So me and him are pretty tight. I'm tight with the JC.

He comes down and looks around. He told me "this isn't a big deal. I've wiped out towns all the time. Have you ever read the bible? Sodom of Gomorrah. New orleans, hurricane katrina remember that? I've got typhoons, i've got hurricanes, i've got volcanoes. This isn't a big deal don't worry about this."

I said, "well that's not my only ethical quandry here jesus. I came down here to get some turkey gizzard's from Leroy's Butcher Shop." Jesus was like, "oh man, leroy does have some good turkey gizzards." Jesus and I have bonded over those gizzards.
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I did, OP
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>>74781864
I said, "Now leroy is dead. I can't steal from a dead man. It's immoral. It's against the bible." Jesus replied, "That is an ethical quandry my friend." He took me up to heaven because we needed to consult god for this. This was a real tricky one. I asked god, "is it ethical for me to take those turkey gizzards?"

God said, "you know what? How about we arm wrestle about it? You win then you get the gizzards you lose you don't." So god put his arm up on the table, I put my arm up on the table and we locked hands. The angels were watching, the devils were watching, and the giant lovecraftian beings from the 9th demension were watching because they were all eager to see who was going to win. The stars began to shake and entire planets were reduced to ash and cinder.

After 78 long days of a stalemate, I emerged victorious. God could no longer match my strength.

The very act of defeating god in an arm wrestling match somehow managed to reconstituted the very nature of the universe. Redefining reality and shaping it to my whim. I never did get my turkey gizzard's though.
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>>74766664
Went to vigil yesterday.
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>>74778601
MULTUMIM CAPITANE
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>>74766664
No, I spent my day studying because I'm an atheist.
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>>74781934
where's this from
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>>74782662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzclklHXXEk
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>>74766664
atheist
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No, sorry. I am not a fat autistic virginal fedora-tipping nerd loser.
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